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stage of people argue on first take about whether Matthew Stafford is a howl famer, not not imposed officially over your guard when spirit they brought a mean a kind. She she was saying: no is it was going? That's Kevin Clark is here from the ringer. He did an excellent job riding on the deadline for the Superbowl he's one Hudson the rigour and if Thou shalt and uninstall your cabin, what is the dumbest storyline that's going to come out. Of this super bowl that we can immediately the bank right now and China for some water up I mean this: is all. The same thing is a little strange to me. I we cannot neglect It is this morning we can't just be quarterbacks an errand out right. Is that the future we want for our fame, like a bunch of guys, but a big numbers is funny, because I really like Matthew Stafford When I went I went to Detroit three two years ago, and I said, lay I think,

de Madam argue, the forgotten guy, because you think about the two generations above him do not receive Eli river is banned and above viruses it is right and then an above that is obviously embracing it and below him he was getting laughed by them homes of the world events of the jobs in the world. I said during this weird window, where you don't you have any peers. We because Unifil did know what to do with spread? Often is a million reasons for, but there was kind of dead zone of quarterbacks anywhere near put. But on numbers- and so I thought his legacy- I've been underrated a bed, and then he wins a super bowl with essentially one good drive, and now all of us we're gonna go Jack, I'm I thought that was strange, thought the other of what I thought was always giving way? Can I can can keep on effort, because I really, as I was watching first take

I started wondering how many quarterbacks you're in the Hall of Fame. Do you know the answer I dont tell me: what's your guess cause I was surprised. Just get your had twenty interesting, so I would have said legs. Forty eight, I died heads it's only twenty, seven, ok, and so I better, I listed the guy's basically by decades, even though guys overlap decades right. But if you really laid out you look at it, it's basically five guys per decade. So you start in the forties with ATO. Bob water failure. The fifties are you there Spam Rockland, Tito Blanda, Lane sixties, our name at targeting star DOS Jurgensen seventies are star back Stabber, Bradshaw Bradshaw. See eighties, are away Marina Montana Fats Kelly.

Nine these are moon, five young Aikman there, and then we get to the two thousand switch pate marrying her wonder and Tom Brady will be in Roth's programme breeze or be it, and then we get to the two thousand tens Roger Stafford, Ryan Rivers, Eli Wilson. So if you look at it, it's like four, per decade, but in the two thousand tens we have six, so am I A huge problem maybe get a huge problem, which is you can't do this for the correct. As you know, there was a huge, often a boom in two thousand and seven right is it. This is the easiest era ever to buy quarterback. Yes and you can draw the line and say we're let all these quarterbacks who have great numbers and one one Superbowl, and not do that for receivers. This array. Receiver was coming in right now is setting records for rocky some, just in Jefferson, chimera chase, there's gonna be a huge boom. of receivers were holiday, eligible to its a woody,

Do I wrote this five years? Remember clung voters, but what do you do with this and you raise the bar raised by your lower the bar and say well, Matisse averages destinies better than the Damn Reno known it like. It is so easy to play. Quarter relative to any other errand football. Not just talking about the sort of health and safety rule changes, combat schemes, jumbo coaching, combat defensive rules which have been getting uniting, people been complaining, but events Rosen stinking seventy. basically, but it's gotten easier and easier every single year and so had just arrived at lunch every yes, yes exactly, I german on Thursday the day he was just like, he was like day the goat debate. The personal time debate is so different. Now because we have no much airborne. Nineteen. Eighty two point: seven more years right, you have the guys. If you look at the list, I saw I played eleven years. They went through the Navy, Otto Graham as nine Marina was sixteen and it felt by the end of felt, like you is a hundred years old, Stevie outweighs the horrifying babies

No, I guess not watch late Dan Marino drives. No one has ever of use. Killing, but no one has ever looked older on a football field, but you think I'd when thereupon quarterbacks by and it wasn't just a head hits. It was the concert eyes die, may at their leg. The legs right. Marino, I saw Quip Roddy Harrison when he took out shrink Green Jimmy, see that but that, though, her garden about it, it was the last precision game and he did the Bernard Power dive into his legs, but is actually worse than put our power part and just takes about in, like the second quarter of a meaningless precision game that is happening. All the types of these guys was inconceivable, which which brings me to Stafford like right now, he's twelfth. All time is almost as fifty thousand passing yards he's. He figure with the longevity thing He may played six more years by Antilles, forty and at that point, will be one of the five biggest passing our guys any as the Superbowl

out of these. All of them are now, but I I just think, there's no way he's not gonna, be. There said the new, the new aid, this out. The days of like worn moon, making it advocates. Oh Brad, I'm gonna have to have a super bowl and you're gonNa dab numbers the more interesting find me a deal I. What do you do with him. To super balls. I mean as it comes on, died you to hold them. Can you tell the story of football without Delay, Manning beaten, the patriots twice and and being consistently good over fifteen? Eli, had I mean I think he was like top thirty four for passengers. Finally, they, but again it sounded. Perplexed plan was night, an era where he was ninety four, fifty seventh that cigarettes, but the two super balls you know even made it ain't been one three.

But basically everybody who won at least two supervises like stables in their stabber. Without you look at at career stats. Is that name this in their name with one one superbowl? If you look at his stats last seven years of his, we're not gonna. She really bad. You should, surprisingly shockingly bad, so yeah. I did goes back to the point you made earlier like if it's a quarterbacks league, does it make sense for the Hall of Fame to shift towards more quarterbacks? It's not fair, but like rake, I was the member that we argued about where the rig I was all famer forever is basically, I think, actually butter position as a matter that I merely been worried about you made of it to your hair was he's the best putterer, the first like thirty five years by life and has accounted for that a famous so much better their borders, but it was not put his argue, though, with just and Tucker my tenors avenue.

Ferris and having flouting of immigrants have been one year forever Macpherson, but we can't do the you marches that I mean it's it's free. The thing someone like you, I'm Manning, and I would extend this by the way to Ben robs Burnett couple. Other Carson homer is not gonna get fame. He has never rings outside of him in discussion, like those guys were in the best irrevocably quarterback because they got the advantages of being young in an era where there was full training camp. I almost a tender our theory there were no rules on practice, all that stuff and then vote on. They got old in two thousand eleven. They were able to see. their bodies, because all these new rules had come bows without was long jeopardy, so they actually that kind of two thousand and two to the action plan for class. That was the best era, maybe ever to come, and only four quarterback that you got the best of both worlds, to get the the training on a front end and health and safety on the back end, and so that everything was stacked for someone like you

gave a great career, but I still think to render it well and also that you couldn't get receivers over the middle after two thousand five and then the concussion think extended two thousand eleven, and even that that I mean the best place to a baby that whole game was that do look past the cup over the middle, which I didn't realize till I got home, but how crazy we passed that was but cupcakes, but headed in two thousand and two he's knocked unconscious after catches that there's a book called paper lions my best books but at length and in it. In it Raymond Bury says the middle. The fuel is called. The pit as you go in there once in your career and get your head knocked off and the new never go there again and now that's where they live, what Brady unmanning all these guys. They live over the mill, the field because they know that the rules are different Cooper CUP. His his Cooper CUP was

Nineteen forty like Raymond, bury everything's different, ok, and so I think that that that is probably the biggest change for four defences is just the fact that the middle the field is wide open. you can take advantage of me. Even though Bro one of the things is that we knew Joe Burrows neighbors do quick game to neutralize some of the front because they can throw the middle of a field that stuff is wide open. When the reason they were able to get Aaron down in a one on one match up says they walked up a linebacker. Basically, that open up a little bit of mill. The field that changed everything in the middle of your being open is literally changed football. There said that one of the first supervise armor blacking was vikings: Raiders Jain that the Viking said say me way, who is like one of the most fun young receivers of the seventies and he gets like basically beheaded. I think by George Atkinson mean that game and if you watch like, though John for sent a thing that game

Sammy White was knocked out of the game on this hit by George Atkinson and you watch it and it was like he should go to jail for ten years. I've said and that's what the football is like, basically until two thousand and ten until that crazy Ravens Steelers playoff game, when everybody was going to Hey. Do you remember when James Harrison almost retired for weekend, because he was not allowed to have people anymore timber there? as he was just like, I'm can reconsidering my future because people anywhere those eleven to Levin years ago, when you talk, de the queue bees and how far this is gonna, be to figure out in that rides, eighth in passing guards right now he did. This will inevitably soon that he want well the hardest one for me as rivers. I actually think Eli probably should be it by them. Whatever standards we have cause of those two posts seasons at all the arts right, even though its in to think of him as all famer he probably gets in rivers, though I never felt rivers is one or like the best for

I've quarterbacks in the league. He never got all the way the Superbowl he lost some big games where he was favorites in the play and She never got there for me, but is sixty pass guards right now striving to make it, I just don't see it. I think the part of the problem with the traffic to rivers, the same way is that if you're just doing quarterbacks been a lot of the metrics that you normally use because all decade team, all pro team that has to go out the window, the only one of those and so are two dependents- so I just we're getting into to a very, very large grey area with some of his quarterbacks and that that back concerns, but I'm not a huge like sanctity of the Hall of Fame guy, but I am I do like the idea that we can look back and look at the hall of Fame as a sort of guideposts wrote. This era was like While the annoyed thing is, I don't trust the hall of Fame some of the choices they make any where the cliff branch made. It the other

over Stanley, over Stanley, Morgan and sound made fun. I brought this up brought this up, but compare their stats. Like Stanley was almost twenty yards per catch furs entire career he had. I think I think he had Seven hundred more yards and cook brand she played longer. I think he was just as good buddy calculation, but it's like they almost don't use the stats. They really the fault of the old school, while big games of branches and more begins. But it's a go see the more it was on the fucking patriots, we'd, Steep Grogan and MAC Cravat on priorities in his quarterback slick, He was still a bigger twenty yards catch, so at it in general, like I'd, just felt, baseball of them has been over analyze, fastball fame. When I went over it when it did my book and stuff there was a couple couple couple of those late some weirdos have been get name like some weird choices that have just like all right. I guess we're letting everyone it meant

thought hall frames a combination of their super precious about it, but then the choices are crazy and that's the second never thicket. That seriously did you. Oh and arouses eight member. It's only one based we once Lecter Protein and a lot of s death was presenting you and sometimes guys, changed or present her and all that stuff. It's totally different. I'm never. I will problem never have a vote on the report. Will all players so that you can do it like a Google You do their number took over the Broncos, but then proposed like that that that's the best way to do it and I'm probably just gonna, be an observer. It's a little different when it's that, instead of you're getting seventy five percent of that vote, emulate courtesy what we mean by Curtis, our looking at the list of baseball voters and was disabled white light. This guy's got a vote which is a little bit different and so. I think that the fact that it is it is a closed room. A closed loop changes, the cholera.

Asian and if you just get really think by this via five people in that room in the four profile famer. Who really like. I really like this guy that can change the entire conversation, no one's going round and lobbying all voters in baseball. They can do that in profile and that's why I think the conversations, although a bit change browsing, they probably have the best process. If anybody, because its people, who at least we know, are locked in the game, and not just like. Oh, I got this vote twenty years ago. Now it just either. vendetta against very bonds. While I say this about Stafford in the moment that last DR, where especially that Fourth, and one where I was like: oh my god, they're going to run Sony Michelle into the middle of the line, survive and get stuff to make sure she's going to kick a field goal and the kids to be over then cut makes the play, but that drive it was law.

Then I think I realized, as I was watching the moment cuz it was so exciting. Stafford was great. You think, like she basically cup, it was amazing to watch in person to just like them triple team and cup they're calling him, unlike the last seven plays. I think, there's probably pass interference on every play and want to throw its Koranic. You know that no other receiver has they don't respect the running game to screen, passes weren't working and I just felt like the bangles were saying to themselves. If we shut down cup, we win Stafford over and over again was bigger eyes whose really good same thing for the end of the Tampa game. Right temper comes out away back, they get it to get the time thing. Any person unbelievable, passed, unbelievable the down the middle to change the game. So I think that matters in you could say I will this be Joe Flack or makes makes it. He had a good policies and no, but I think if you're gonna make the Stafford case, terrible team put up stats anyway took a big beating and then, when he went to a good team, he won the Superbowl. So that matters I mean I was

he's on weight on his way to going it sure needs more needs more after this. He probably needs the ringer needs. A system against France. Antwerp gets is sure yeah yeah, I dont think I mean the rams did stack. The deck Cooper CUP is really good. I saw stat this morning that sports radar, since two thousand nine, has been tracking receiver, quarterback completions and the fifty five completions in the fourth quarter from Stafford cut the seas and are the most they ve ever had on record, and so as to happen is that late and Games Stafford CUP to say? Ok, we ve done the game plan for three quarters, but just take or no more scrawny. Ok, let's gets chronic out of the equation and it looked like you. I think I heard that He was moving staffers moving cup outside giving him some even of Adobe Jays rouse. This was match up like this is what this is so why? If you're? The rams you bet big on talent is because you get these little match ups The sudden the bangles not go.

and on talent and all of a sudden, its lap organs, Cooper CUP. Guess what happens debt, and so I think that there was it. There was at an advantage that Stafford had he made. The plays no look pass was all small that stuff, but the deck was staff for him in this, wasn't it A job euro situation staffer by the way had the opportunity to be job Euro in Detroit for a decade couldn't do it that there's we probably should point that out. We didn't get them to the mountain top, but yeah yeah Stafford did what was what were we needed to do on Sunday? I knocker fro parade for staff yeah, I'm not send. You know how fame, but I think we have to be prepared that a few more seasons he's gonna have the rest medikit, and we have a lot to talk. other Ngos, bullets equipment have remiss in football. You can still turn every Thursday into a payday with NBA unseen t unfit to sports book? It does, but if you want to lose feigned or giving all customers ten hours back, every Thursday incite credit, just Betty TED, our more same game parlay at any and be a team.

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said Mister all. I said that he didn't feel like IE celebrated, losing this you were born a celebrated losing the celebrated, the accomplishments of losing Superbowl team. The patriots put up a banner frozen symbol, but current or things that he should have done more. and so borough wanted to appreciate that little bit more, but listen dirt. They need to do a minor version with the chief to last year, which is overhaul their entire office of why we live in a post. Angela were part of the problem. Joe borough is the loves contact. and that is not necessarily a good that get he's. Ok take knows, hits he's. Ok, you home nor the Babo longer Matthew Stafford through the ball on average. A half second had had a half second longer, Road then they arrow did on Sunday because louder it was a bit longer than I thought it was a long pointed hungry. I it and it ended up being, I think, to forward to nine, not probably by like probably been at the end of the game. Stafford was going shock on up Oh yeah, I asked Cooper comes out without the average condemn, but the destiny of seas, unbelievable

as big a bureau stands anybody. I was saying that this was a nine eleven wanting before decision, but the destiny of seas insane and the barrier for entry to, really good team in the right now is really really really high and the sort of all in approach that the Rams we're gonna see that more more Adele bangles have to do with the chief did last year, which is retool there often deployment it is not an amazing frisian cos. You have really big ticket items. I tron arms tat are available yard received that the chiefs made the tray last year, but I think that just the idea that a young team with good quarterback is going to immediately bounced back. I think that there are there are some questions there inside you're the bangles bengals the franchise you still there

we had cost imposed upon us. We have is that the banks, franchise, has not changed. Joe borough changed the franchise, but they have not changed. They still have six gouts. They still have some other than the same issues that that they ve always had so it's up to that was they spent more frequently close them for giving four hundred and sixty million hours. They ve got a fundamentally changed for this to be sustainable, yeah don't see them come. Back then, after that I say that with a twinge of bitterness, because I went against them every round against the spread covered all four weeks, but I think they could have lost every week. I think they got real fortunate stuff happens them, especially last three weeks I tend to Hell, for whatever reason, just put that shit's Abed along with they don't fall for whatever reason. For whatever reason, maybe just

I don't wanna hear more from our guy Ryan. I, along with the tat, terrible tenancy coaching, especially that that third, in iconic thirty one with the two place, then the next week I will always believe to the bitter end that bombs was concussed at some point before the second have started that game ages. It makes no sense that he was that bad, it's it's a I'll say it. I want people to study that I want to see some incredible. Twenty five minute Youtube thing made by some crazy conspiracy person just pointing out how bad MA homes was. Really from the moment that first and goal and the end of the first half of the way through it is for somebody who is as good as he is. It is one of the worst performances we have ever had in any sport in a big game. In my opinion, based on what his town a sea have that, and then in this Rams game

look, I know people, I doubt you can't say that about Adele Bobo, but I was at the game. Adele was the. If Adele it played that all game. I think the rams went by double digits. I dont need the Bengals. Gonna hung with that. What do you think Oda was a mismatch? Guy and keep you saw domino he was in person was open, but Mcveigh also listen. They could have one that came by by two touchdowns have been very different approach that that was the worst since this grew. The worst running performance in the history of Superboss was amazing. It was believable and so Mcveigh. After the patriot, Superbowl told everybody would listen that he over thought it, but he was too much tape and didn't do enough game planning you just go. He had seen some information overload when attempted in planning yet too much in his hat verse. Nothing to suggest the Mcveigh did over think this. Nothing and thank God they went for him

They went up tempo shock and spread it out and ourselves tat. They were like four or five yards wider in their spreads on the last, though in the last DR thank God that all happened for it take because otherwise you'd be talking about Mcveigh over thinking, another soup. amusing Iraq. Taylor, who I dont think that it was not a very good coach. This was all Joe borrow, some individual town, anything Davidson things with the offence, but this Mick, they was was bailed out. I dont know if that was just him on the last driving there isn't that the nugget today that the coaches and Mcveigh said hey, let's just which is let matters definite Cooper CUP when this game they did that congratulation but I dont know I would add that a half hour sooner personally, but I'm out soon as Odell went out, I would have done that. I would it's ok

the two men game, so here's at a bad zagging against the advanced by Jackson, she's trying to be Dick. I do like fundamentally, I understand the concept of let's try to keep the Benghazi fence off the field which try to control the ball, which try to see if we can get this going like I get it, but by the third quarter. First love so clear that they were going around the bar second, while you can tell when they, when they were running versus when they are passing, which I dont night, there was some sort of like breach with from a trickery. Stew point. You just kind of knew where Cooper Kupp was lining up, whether her there couldn't from Brenner pass it's bad if I'm city in the state and I'm just gonna run pass run. So I'm assume the bangles. Could do that, but I do me the coaching That's the thing, tat, really hammer Mcveigh. I was just how uncreative it was. It was just

It's always go out, not we're gonna run it wrapper and run it now. It will pass it, but that's what tat? That's the margin of error talent gives you is that all they needed was Arundel amendment. It was funny I wrote this and again I shall make their but, like he said he said before the four one and by the way I side and one third and one with errand on was just as impressive is the fourth from one. Yet he said that Mcveigh Mcveigh after the games that you're gonna hear me might up. I said that errand I was gonna get this ball game now because you have arrived at the outset. I would like to go out on the best player in modern defence of history. Is going to make a play when he's one on one of quitting Spain now and again, party, that's really Morris standing how to get one wants situations. We have shown that they built that that that that staff, so the knowledge that he was to passenger on this, but this is what town affords you and then this is why all week when I would talk to player,

radio row even before that the biggest donors with MIKE Parsons they also talent, town talent, like bangles, had no chances around the rent anything about up, it from trawlers to Miller thousand overpay, but is in matter because it knew what they need to do and they also need the Broncos to pick up some of the contract. Overpaying It's fine when you know exactly what you need. This is the biggest. This team was the biggest bet in in history as far as draft capital as far as money all that stuff, as far as a bit investing billions in the stadium rights like this here, things with credit card stuff, and it worked because they knew that deal. Because one of the margins are made so many little margins riding up over the bangles over the box over whomever that you know, Having errand Donald to consult their summits. They being in his own head. It doesn't matter, when he had that many benches went back to the bangles about whether this was real or not. I, this was the most skin skin by their pants team. That error,

within five minutes of winning a super bowl that I've ever seen in my life, and I look it's all part of football is whether by the games on that disparaging Bengals, but I just I just felt like they weren't that impressive, the entire time and was kind of amazing with their accomplished. Some say that as a compliment that itself, great. They have two years a burlap before they have to really pay right, so have right now, the autumn luxury of the Ricky Cuba, that contract no they don't like to spend money, we know that air, in a tougher conference, going forward where you have feared and make the list of the quarterback, she won't going forward I think I'll for them on the FC. It's out its behoves its Herbert nets burrow in either this a lot with MAC Jonah anywhere. I won't forget about Lamar Jackson's wars that division, ok, but I'll go with those. For first said: oh, I dont trust Lamar at the same level, but I think about MAC Jones. Where are they liked back

I, u know, could he have played in that aim. Yeah. I think he could about ok, but we have this call back. That will never be one of the top for quarterbacks in the conference for his office has therefore, as there is discouraging gazette quarterback league, but of the additives and this is why I like, when you hear the Collar Murray Trade rumblings, that stuff right, that a farm in the end have seen. You look around. You think like the king of the hill here. This is why I am sure Rogers thinks he can probably play until his forty three forty four. It is probably why Brady by the way, Gunther that San Francisco or my four Brady Miami arriving San Francisco Spirit, Freelance Brady, was like attic. minimum, when man maybe maybe the one more year, but I would guess I only do these come back like really come back for you just like you just thinking, maybe there's a five percent chance. You get bored

have, as as the guy who's been driving the Brady narrative really this whole year and has been had it again. This time I actually think keys. I think there is some sort of San Francisco Miami thing. Now you could tell me it's Miami ownership he's in the team that play you wanna get involved, you may you mean if it that team comes up for sale or Steve Ross as a way to throw people off the set of other crazy shit that half of them? The last thing said I'm selling a minority share to Tom Brady that in five years the majority will kick in, but it's gonna be a transition. I think it's either that or thinking The Niners for one year and if I had the bat outside sixty forty nine hours and forty percent by me, but I think, will be one of those two things Joe Montana cameras on his answer. When he talks of players they said romances and ruddy trailer.

There's a ready, he wasn't. We saw nothing last year that thinks he's ready and also like, if you re read that Instagram posed carefully. It was a good bad temper and This is why I went all on this. The first cup wakes January. I think he was done in temper. I think guys, like Leubronn Brady, whoever they look it fate. They have the ability to kind of sniff their team and and. They don't totally like the smell they're out at this point of their career when they're just about when entitles, I think he knew Tampa. That was a rap that day there were, when he inside on tamper salami, not playing anymore or maybe something will happen with San Francisco, or maybe you be an honor Miami, but I think it's one of those two things are really to take out about tat. Friends. How funny would that be? That was his emphasis for twenty years, and then he goes to the dolphins. I listen to a lot of his their views with Jim Gray, and one of them was really funny where he just kind of he comply

and about how dark it and called it gets into England. He was like a it gets cold. I throw you get started, I repeat, and he really liked being out of the boat is what I'd say. reading the deal is he enjoyed go into practice, putting in a full Tom Brady Shift being there at five in the morning and then go ahead. You know what I'd like to do: go on about self, the Miami would would tractor. While my MS us away closer to his other son, who lives in New York with Bridge point in that case against empties, goes it's too far away. It's too far away from you know, even if his family GIS moved out, he still three. Thousand miles away from his other son, he's very committed to being rather everybody that doesn't mean that he couldn't decide and, like you know, June, the AIDS virus playing again have stayed in shape and he basically, as us, Smug verandah nighters, just like I'm gonna, live it saved Cisco. You guys stay here or whatever it is. I don't they trail. Aids is ready. I think camp baby, the quarterback

you and it's like sure has been that Jimmy G rumour about. Why would they trade Jimmy jaded tampon for the rights for Brady in the third round? Pick something like that as inside Iraq. Ok, I mean Brady is in contrast to the problem. We need to be some competition but Elsie. I thought it was weird, but here too a retired, I'm putting that airports There was no chance you that, when a pious I've just come with stopping her players, who was ninth using Ninth Vesper Football Fisher and is pretty good, though the Red yeah he's not. Randy telling the wheels fell off in the past or anything he's dignity, football and also everything we ve her. I'm sure you ve heard this too. Was there. He wait. You knew this was ten years ago. He knew it could play to forty six because Tom House, his drawing coach, used to code the pictures and no one Ryan Control fastball into his forty six. You knew that the mechanics can hold up. That was always there. The theory is that in baseball, these guys can throw till the forty six. Why couldn't quarterback when you need much less velocity, much less, where entire on your right? Yet so I thought

weird that we were before, We even knew he'd, be the nice best buy on the second best quarterback aged forty four. I thought where they would hang it up that early. I think that that this is a guy just wired in a completely different competitive. and everybody else, I'm everybody will. I think now, there's a genre of Joe Borough stories on I've told a bunch of them where it's like. Oh my God, Joe Boroughs is different. Light Brady's times a hundred men twenty years about Sab three years of that, and so I am not discounting anything, the Brady would do because he's, unlike anybody with ever soon sport, I would bet on San Francisco. Ok, I wonder what now, if you take the Brady, we saw last year

and switching with Jimmy Grapple oversees the dude that honours win, the Superbowl yeah, that's my cut, I kind of think that it too, I asked us to sell on Sunday. Do you think if you're a buffalo fan, do you come away from Sunday night thinking? I can't we will win the super we had the best it yes, but I also feel like that, if you're, a chief Santa What is even more alarming because actually blew the game I would add, on Play Mohamed, I'm going to my argues in going. I don't understand. We paid five hundred billion from arms and he turned into trade lance in the second half. in the miners by the way matters. Fifteen. What I find out when the title four What are you gonna do? The little high, if we can t be, might be, might become a back. What other giving more narratives about out from the Superbowl that you think you're gonna die before bigger

the Mcveigh thing is really interesting to make, because we already have the Sean Peyton thing, which is retain team in the NFL. Next year's one back month away from a champagne room, maybe one week away from the shop it room yet and if, if Mcveigh stepped away, it would be that times, five million and I dont think of it I heard weird rumours about the Mcveigh situation last week. As far as that, he might be might I or whatever step away and come into the ringer is, I can over for me, come into their own. It's gonna has already is already written, has already had a pot rulings company. We that's why we tested a male Astro he's gonna take over for me, I'm gonna coach, the ramps where switching jobs, I wish you believe in passing the ball. Every fourth gotTA lake: let's get its Cooper, that would be a strategy up. The guy was twenty. Four hundred yards sees it with This is what running practice and all that stuff would be a nightmare and I wouldn't be able to do it, but the ash

game management. You feel you got what you described the man black. What do you think? Maybe, like God, Dicaprio countries, I can't write it is going to be like when you think we should do here Now, by that we should move Cooper CUP jet or or was to get sweep one forthwith group accompany bike. Absolutely I trust my guess. I trust. Would you say that ever needed to be like, while avenue restaurant spoke. We know I wanted to empower guys and they they wonder on the fourth one that baby the easiest that everything the ninety nine percent- that we don't see in football is the hearts of south that I am by the way by prediction for the Red This would be the funniest outcome of all the outcomes. Mcveigh leaves re. trade to more first round pigs to get shot. Peyton is the final. Certainly just have no first from pigs for the rest of the two thousand twenties and champagne things out for something and then another sense could happen. With regard to evil, I'm with you on the champagne. They know cause this Apple Pat rally way back when he left the letters he did embassy for you.

He is actually pretty good as the studio guy I d better than people remember, but that whole year he just lingered over the season. Where is it going? Where is he going? Where is he going? Where is it going? And then that became the blueprint for a lot of these guys? You take the year off and you just become hot. By not doing anything, you become the hot guy, so that will be shot paid. That ties into how bad it can get bounce. because the taste that everyone has an amount that about plans game is obviously awful. Might Mccarthy is just bad culture. I don't know how you can spend that. I may like that, the same job he did to get that job. He admitted the basics lied about having to watch every day, which is easy thing to do. Obviously we say that the watch it this stuff about the analytics just a why, like a year, he went to Pierre S, but but So do a lot of coaches. You didn't really, he wasn't engaging with those guys who was actually just pushing back and allow their models. I just I don't know why he's the head coach there anything, but all the time

in Dallas. Now I ever so much enemy. This is just purely speculation theatre. Someone said the champagne nothing, even though he's tempted by it if he had a bunch of option Does he really want Jerry tone, Joan dad you, as our does, will want to tell you Jones everything he's doing Georgians watching film with him couple other people it yeah. They spaces had half the originally wanna watch from with it, which, with the owner of the coach and and half geologist like him, and give me give me the loop, but Do you shall pains more you do you kind of guy? I don't know, maybe once in Dallas when a been there. Obviously the parcels legacy all that stuff. But here, a lot about that organization and not necessarily sure he wants to be In the end, the Georgians experience Dallas Kim Kardashian people just can't resist stating them. You can't resist

other some land mines, you have caught as the crazy acts, there's kids, but it's just. I got him. Carnatic can't resist you're taking off here's. Here's abide switch places. We shall Matvey here's what I learned from the playoffs, the most effective way to run a defence is five defence of black men with one mysteriously dropping back every play in the quarterback, never knows which ones drop. Back. Thou just be my strategy everywhere, I'm in a rush for but you'll never know which, for there is, and one of them has to be our air doubt if I have how they can't stop me having here Donald One, neuron and learn, for it helps network dropping guys back in icing which for rushing that's the secret sauce myths, basically what the Bengals there that is probably right. The concussion busy ironic. If yet, rapid, different defensive back no, I'm not I'm letting you own them homes, concussion angle, up about it,

the fuck was wrong with my homes, angle, Gimme, a better thing, then he took a hit like what happened to that guy, and then we tried to live the game and which have suddenly all time hot streak for fur. Three halves we were like my god he's like revolutionizing everything. I thought this position could be. And then, when I had a thorough completion, I think they're babe they dropped. I think that Mahomes still struggles is something he's told me before he still struggles with taking the whale And he didn't and they could have run the ball and they didn't know we make fun of running the and they could have run the ball more like they just there was their whole. Or that they didn't Baden tax it out without was TAT, was the them homes Dinah so that's embarrassing and shape it shouldn't. Be there a debate that has corridor back like of his generation a hundred percent us before we go. We have two minutes Sir, do wanna come on, many are laid. A just quickly is already dead,

pass out from the mad Stafford Hall of Fame. There is serenity All right so the Orlando MAGIC U7 centers, you also have fries Bob their inspiring hope you have jail, and so who looks ok like there's the foundation for something. Is this the most optimistic you guys abandoned ten years, Still, I would say yes given only at. I think the last rap changed everything for the magic, because before that, your life whose our guy Jonathan Isaacs, her fault is heard again and then you get Suggs and everybody You have be. A guy then ends up becoming France, who is by the way, numbered these number two rookie. You haven't, you can make an art me. I know you love Mowbray, icon, like out born his hands more on interest. I don't know what this guy can't do in five years. it's gone, big, Manu, etc. So that some float areas which are so the excitement is. and higher like itself to go from a year. go to now. I actually, this team is built for something on the excited well

also the second worst record in the league, so Yes, I'm an html word, but that does not say no. No, it's a good. It is rare sweet. Yet you have to look. Is that you really like you? Have cap space and you're gonna get another tat for The only problem, though, and I like to take over here- is you mention a hundred centres and distracted by the top resolving right now from giving it up really the only view if you're blowing this up. You have two guys that UK are you keeping one other guy in the team Kevin as far as white, like just it sucks and Bognor. Is there anyone else? No? No! No! No! No! I haven't at its first reading. I talk about this everytime. I view the the only way out of this group for either of those Bert for France, Suggs or coercion,

develop into legitimate, Alcoa that only land I have yet three. We got a guy, I was I was like I did. I envisage Argus note you have yet to take common policies averaging but a reference for. No that would be haven't you. None of us. It's still viper its fox man, I'm not a start debts Could it be one of the three guards on a good team? I don't know he knows that died in key he's. Gotta thinks he's one of those rational competence guard. Guys, like you, makes me look at nervous activity, but that you keep morale. It is also a quarter guide. Their story does love. Orlando, that's the good thing about those guys use. those guys even R J Hampden, like those guys seem to like Orlando. They like the team they like playing, which other somebody employed when they are an area you together, there's like there are five provides, only run their alleged about Brenda while other thing I love these guys, they Bennet Sneaky free agent, the nation over the years that out there, a bigger than I ever got. Can I read about this starting in ninety? Ninety six with work and then we get Greenhill and then we get trace emigrating and these guys

I think it was Greenhill. Went to I'll worth where they are all those guys we have better when, apart in a young, haggling Duncan helium, three of them and then and then Gregg Papa Vetch, called him getting Cold Orlando, a cultural wasteland and ask him to stay Antonia brother. You live in San Antonio. What what? What? What? What is your living in Paris? Nineteen? Twenty? Four? Ok, that's that separate! That's a separate, but at some point It became a mean that nobody wants to go to our land. I think how coups Mozart I'd rather be well. blues and annihilate and winning, and I wonder what has a bad day an outline round. The Orlando has been destinations worked, guys want to play. The franchise has understood. Itself. We should be going out getting these guys and saying live on a nice golf course Leavenworth or whatever it is living downtown. Downtown has been far from from downtown attacks. Phrase by tax energy tax hygienic reacts free, and so I dont know how this started the nobody. The plane or window. The problem is team sucks. I belong here,

you left at a crucial point. You got the reassured Louis thing was a big deal. Now we have a huge free age, a better Europe, given that that I've still got thought I overpaid Bill Simmons, you thought they overpay, that's fine, but he still went to Orlando Turkey. Loose still went Orlando, like you, still need letting Ursula was a mid level yeah Bayer student, getting guys. I am with you, there's this there's this. Mother Lando, like that's out of place, rages regarding its actually like it's totally apace. Ridges would go, there's no reason it's more that there three the ownership I mean, that If I look at it from a fire, might that's the worst ownership situation, probably in the league other than Sacramento? Why worry, though, to like if it gave a place like Dallas with Mark you been in like all the thing is if they can't get free agents, how's, Orlando and twenty twenty two and every agents that I've I dont adjusting times it may change on, I guess they did get them

One years ago, I don't know if you can bank on that, like again they're they're trying to talk about things like we want to be the next destination for dispelled stars at Donovan. Mitchell was something like that. They've got some assets sure because David has the David Michels of the world did that guy want to Pointe Orlando? I don't know sure ten or twenty years ago, while so that one day, if you now this draft back, I do think that possibility opens up for like hey Orlando, why that they have done a cab space? They have good young core, because this is what happened in two thousand. When authority was amazing in them, where was like wait. A second they're gonna get my Grady Greenhill and TIM Duncan or land out. This is a thing. That's gonna happen, but it was in the next That's it for Orlando MAGIC Foreigner, sorority. Thank you. Chemic Clark, good to see was always good job there in the Superbowl and dumb and were thick so lava. This absurd, the bosom back ass, his body by American, express the immediate tree.

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Many times, including on Monday, I wouldn't be doing Kramer versus Kramer Mallory, which will be an all time, tier jerk or as part of fucked up family February, and the relaunch of us brought you on because nobody cares about the Oscars as an institution more than you, it's better traumatic fee aids peeking this year with the Oscars that I don't even know how to describe from a category standpoint. It seems like the three host they picked were. Probably this many night eightieth in eighty one. Eighty first choices area was passing up, including reportedly John him. and I almost wonders is the Oscars trying to tank. Are they trying to take four draft pics What's going on with the Oscars, how do we say this. I've got no we're trying to save it. Honestly, I spent the last forty fears on the pod trying figure out a way to get the the cabin.

Listen to me in an. I think, I'm ready to accept that I was wrong. You know that my big talking point was I dunno many more films that more people have seen their historic over the years when Titanic is up for best picture when avatars up her best picture gladiator gravity: black Panther numbers are usually higher and the ratings. Why do I care about the ratings? Because I want Hollywood to make more good movies for adults and so gladiator is a middle ground movie that we don't really get a whole lot of these days. But I was wrong that was dead, He doesn't care about that, and also the academy is not one person it's right now, ninety five hundred people and so I think that they have just decided, perhaps wisely to become the Pulitzer Prize. To say that the only That we care about here is acknowledging the we feel as a voting by you are the best movies best performances of the year bar, none that includes foreign films. That includes low budget films that includes films from streamers that includes studio. Move

if you look at the nominations this year. This is what they feel are the best ones, and it's hard for me to work. A lot of the funds that are on their their top ten best picture nominees world I talked to movies at a year. So in that respect I think, They have settled on their mission and that's what we find cause honestly bill. The cat, it is really well position, actually right now they have a war chest of cash and so with the war chest in place, ABC deal and placed the air the show for the next six or seven years, they're just doing what they wanted as far as the host goes, that a different story. I think what is it then to the show in terms of their ability to draw Alias talent is a serious issue, and while Amy Humor and Regina Hall and want to sites, are not bad picks for host they're, not what people are open. For three weeks ago, we were like ours, India and Tom HOLLAND, the two most exciting young superstars in Hollywood, gonna hosts the Oscars. That was maybe a pipe

but that was a conversation was being had and now our it we're wonders likes you I like one site, but I mean it ain. First pay maybe even a little bit high for where she lands on be hosted the academy awards. So it's it's. It's in the show itself in a tough spot yeah. This is Bob Hope, Frank Sinatra, Johnny, Carson Billy Mr David Letter, man would be Goldberg like really really famous famous. people agree that their career in the Oscars, basically for the entire type you ve, I think fearless like what are the positive. I mean they did manage to really diversify and make younger the academy voting thing right. They grew by almost three thousand people and I think, a lot of that's reflected in the movies. by the way, like you know, we do this all the time and the reaction was right. We'll go back on year will be like. Why didn't that movie? Why wasn't it a bigger thing? What happened with you know? Whatever way, why? Why didn't boys know who do better

added driving Miss Daisy when an Oscar and wait over and over again we had an ordinary people beat raging bull and it basically always comes back to the answer of ashes, site, Oldwit Academy and that's what they like, and that was Oscar bait. That's why they picked it so that shifted, but Thank you. Ve been pushing this forever about adding categories That's a way to make this more fun and they won't listen. They just want to have the same basic aid, six categories, that being the most rights director film in the four acting categories than you can kind of drops level, but they should have a pop it should, it should be, was the best the best popcorn movie, the air in the shared, be Spiderman versus whoever, and I'm sorry about this goes back to some. In writing about back where my fingers were like the maggot going. of when their when it's coming next, the best popcorn movie or best big budget will be whatever you want to fuck and call it that's six minutes where I'm watching the Oscars, which is the whole point like get us

she asked. So there is a one day they attempted to do this. Three years ago and John Bailey was still the President Ecademy, they tried to introduce the idea of the popular Oscar and at least online and within the industry. There is a lot of outcry. The ring I think there is our because that was now and very cleverly pitched idea they didn't put in a position to succeed. To me, the better way to get more people invested. Is there not just include one more category. That's for popular movies! It's to include a bunch. More categories needs to have breakthrough performance. It's too have right. I'm director, it's a have best. Onscreen pairing, it's too have the award for the person who had the more than one performance that bit excel busier. There's a way to another, we're one category to me as like, basically best not, which is basically an opt in for best live action, see You know like their armies to get people excited about what was screen at the movies throughout the years- and it's not as if like these are all

Her cows, at the academy, has Bixby economy just fused to sound awards this year. Sound, editing and sound mixing into one award for best sound, so they change There are rules all the time it's not like. This can be flexible to me. They should. Trying to expand the palette of the number of movies that are covered and get people excited. What movies are by rewarding more movies, and it's not really that hard to do the tricky thing with popular Oscar as they they are due something this year where they are letting people through the academies website vote for what the twitters favorite Oscar its idiotic. I completely agree. It's really really stupid that is now I people took tune into the Oscars. They don't want to know what the public thinks is. The most cool, b of the year? The academy is representative of the people who make move so theoretically, they know the most about movies people The academy do like popcorn movies, they don't hate them. The problem is there is this: why disparity We what popcorn movies are now and

They were twenty years ago, Spiderman no way home that maybe isn't people in the academy their tenderly movies, but doing was in doing in some ways as a popcorn movie. So how can we find categories were doing in no way home are competing. I think there's like out there's a lot of work that can be done, but their basically trying to use the tooth I model of categories with twenty two verse and of where the movie industry is and theirs. Dissonance people gotta turn on the show, see a movie like dynamo, Dr Michael which I think is an incredible movie, but there I've never heard of that and I'm never going to watch. It is a three hour japanese film about Greek. That's like that's a hard sell to the common moviegoers L I think they're in this really tricky in between place and it seems like their peace with it. Honestly, that's that's the sense I've gotten, will. The show is always flawed by how long the show was which we complained about forever and how,

The categories I just like most people just could care less about right. In Jimmy's foot that foot other the other when the faced has basically to different nights ray and they kind of stacked. The second night, with the words that the normal personal care about and I think it a doubt be one of things I would think about. The Oscars I would have to separate nights. I would get rid of the more obscure awards that still matter there still counters oscars. Listen. I wanted the crew Send me words for three thousand and thirty short. I didn't care that it wasn't during the actual. That means we want to talk. I think that would be the reaction. I think the thing that we go back to when we talk about these movies or three watch. Rewatchables is how badly the Oscars captured the year at such as like whether the pic is wrong or whatever, but ideally, if you're doing this- and I think this is the as for any word added the NBA in sports legs could do better. This. Do you gonna wanna, captured

Madea right, the NBA has rookie of the year. That's a really important, a word that tells you like: oh, that guy was the best rookie that came in and you think of the year and you think, like I do one thousand nine hundred and ninety three Jackie where'd you go through this year will be the Evan Mobile Year. The fact that they don't have. a rookie year. Words for the Oscars is just insane like you. You could argue a rookie year, end breakthrough performance yeah. I agree you could have the popcorn thing whatever you want to call that for the big budget, whatever it is state. Those movies have a different ideal. Encoded us right, Coda God, bus code, I'm gonna go dominated, Conan Spider man have two different objectives: debated totally different spider man being awesome movie. That also makes a ton of money and has good actors in it in the whole thing- and I just think those I think the Oscars has to realize- like this- isn't one thousand nine hundred and seventy four,

were, you know this isn't Chinatown gonads godfather to, and this is just how movies are it's, that its people have different objectives. there's, differ money and, as you said, like glad there, not making gladiator they tried to that last duel this year and guess what people want to go to theater to see it? So I think the stuff you mentioned. I think the best stunt is a great idea that would be so cool that would be such a fun. Sixty seven minutes, I like the idea of just the best year here you know maybe pay of movies. Like that. The cap, the year when he had departed and blood diamonds? Did anyone ever for that year? We thought about you dear, I'd years and ninety five, ninety six ninety site like hundred and had heat and see no release three weeks apart from each other engine, maybe that being a word, but it just needs to be a complete, revamping avowed. They think about it. Indeed, do feel remotely optimistic that deliver rethink this.

I it will it some of it will be dictated by what the numbers look like after the telecast in March, because venom, were at an all time low last year. There are of reasons for that. We were still you know in the throes of pandemic and there were significantly fewer big time. Films release that year so was harder to sell, but I think also the way that that show is produced told us a lot about how the account he is thinking about its award, show right now we have that they asked even soda work through the producer. I love Stephen Sakharov. Turkey is literally my five Aber directors, but I didn't think you the very good show, but he produced a chauffeur Hollywood. He produced a show for people in the industry. His goal was to make that seem like a lobby environment where they were talking to each other about work that they did. about designing in more people in bringing people at all, and if the numbers are beneath next on last year's show, I think you're gonna sense. More panic, I think, you're gonna sense that there they feel they have to reinvent certain aspects of the matter. I don't even think it's about the ratings. I think it's about

invitation, but the conversation is still pretty shot strong, I mean take over me. I talk about the Oscars performance a year. Every year there is a listener ship for my car. stations about the Academy awards of Amanda or with you on the show like there is still enjoy. Been online with the shows. What about like me and my dad at dinner talking about that is. I dont think like that was the thing in the Eightys and Ninetys. We would sit at dinner, Billig perfection, forest, copper, shack. Could you think should win? I mean no disrespect to Doktor Bilbil. I think the academy gives us about your dad. You know, like I said I think they chair. I think they care about people were under fifty years old, and I that's why think does Dan Tom Tom halting would have been a stroke of genius. They wouldn't have given a ward spider man, but they would have acknowledged Spiderman at the shell. Unless the other thing they can do, they can bring people the show as presenters or fer. You know comic bits, worse, other things that show us What about this is many times, and I I even worse, if we get FED

on the academy awards than twenty two is a wind. That's all I'm saying is we first go to beat the shit out of date on state that I'm in what was more surprising. If humor getting hosted are fed how's that I don't know, I don't know how to get it. How do we get pheasants induce me to host the Oscars build Oh, my god, how do we get city? Sweden has anything to do with the ringer package of looking. So the other thing that sex about the Oscars is, as asking fanned like, why can't we have Oscar in its task as its voting in there can be shady step that goes on foods. Tough, with that said? I wish there was railways to bet on the Oscars, because I think that would be the other way for this to explode like there are. You can find the odds right like right now, oh yeah power, the dog is the favourite now not just for best picture, but for best way to fall asleep. If you can't father thoughts, the parallel use, both both those parents talk, is minus twenty five.

We were asked to pretend that those awesome freight is a very good movie- adds very well polished, plus two fifty Belfast. This is I'm getting the said, Vegas inside it whatever it is. It's my favorite out his lawyer West side stories. Seventy one in that it like drops off bigtime code at twenty five to one I thought was interesting because code is really a guy. I honestly would it be shocked if had a little momentum. I think everything working against it is it's an apple tv plus release and so on. Not it's gonna people had Apple Tv Plus, a there's, not much awareness of it in the public and to Apple is still early in the Austrian Netflix has still not one an academy award despite having made original fell. for seven or eight years now, and there still looking for their first of apple gets one after one and a half years in the game. I think I'll be a little bit surprising for four weeks. I thought gap was the movie that had a really strong chance, because

got all popular. It is, it is one of the most popular movies. Netflix has ever produced stepping said it's real. Divisive people either really like it or really hate it, and so movies like that, would be ranked ballotings. and that the Oscars uses makes it more challenging, plus they missed on a couple Ikey categories. Honestly, this is the power. Is the paradox here: There has twelve nominations. Jane champion is already been nominated in the past, almost every actor in this film was nominated for an academy award. It just kind of seems like it's going towards power. The button at the moment, as some people don't believe that I've seen pundits as we say this Is the movie this way too slow and quiet to win the Oscar, but I dont know what linking up, and it I'll tell you what has been what what is making a little bit of noise. This week is King Richard, because that is a very satisfying movie watching like King Richard you never know left it left a theatre skip out me to it it's a very its

extremely competent movie, and I mean that as a compliment. That sounds like a dig, but it just gonna gives everything you want out of allowing you to start. I wear it. It's a satisfying movie. I need to watch power. The dog again, I think power. The dye would have been better if your trapped in the theatre with it. When I was at the case when I saw liquors pizza your trap than that that if I saw jamming her away and I'm not a hundred percent concentrating maybe starch drift off a couple times, I was surprised at you and I love licorice pizza supplies, theres many people in my life. Like I didn't like it, I think it's not it's kind of the positive King Richard, in that it is kind of formless. You know kind of a series of anecdotes strung together, and so it's a real via movie. It's not a movie. That is about it's kind of massive and an emotionally satisfying conclusions, so it's but offbeat without a nice way of saying it does never Platt. It doesn't really

but what does not? But it's a hang movie with medical, highlight that yeah. It's kind of it yet step along at a different things that no different than they pop fiction. Do you think I'll be right, that PDA is likely to invest original screenplay for a movie that most people would say as like. His fourth or fifth best movie. I never like when make up the little bit of a make up. If you only I'm gonna for like there, we blood or fancied broader one of those but he's going against, fell in for that Belfast. Don't look up king, Richard and worse person, the world which I think could be momentum, there's all I don't feel like. I don't think a lot of people have seen where's person in the world yet they're watching it now, the other watching it. Now about that. That's a movie there's been a fast riser. My number two movie of twenty twenty one. I think that's an amazing movie, that's the most inspired, I would say the most inspired screenplay nomination, o d

The whole concept of the movie is really cool athlete help. Twelve different chapters is about a person in a very specific one in their life that I think a lot of people will relate to and they watch it. A lot of really neat kind of absurdest tricks in it. There Cool Movie. I think if people have a chance to check that out soon, they should go see it cover batches, great and parents. Here he's really great, as by favorite that movie that Jesse Apartments was a corpse, so they couldn't believe he got nominated. I just I will never understand that for my entire life, but Cumberbatch was incredible, actually thought the kid that was playing off him for most of the movie. That was the one who is getting nominated, not Jesse puppets author nominated, and I think the kid is getting a windy, Coty Smite Mcfee as Nay AIR Cumbered theirs, but that what happens when Cumber batch Upsets Wasna, and a burst through my garage door like the Kool aid Man carrying a baby, screaming about how they robbed well Psmith. I just think they have to rig this for Psmith.

I think that this will be has to be one of the rare times they just have to rig it if they re very get. They would have been vice of, though, because, like some people in love a mess there's a little. I have a couple people. My life, like, I was sure, was swift, was good that movie. What's that they get. What's the movie, the wilderness should have won an Oscar for, if not king, Richard, in your opinion, I dont think he made it bad boys, too, Meanwhile, you dive about six green of separation. don't I've Grover's loaded that year, but I actually thought he could one best sporty actor. I don't like there's a lot of people could point that part how I. He was really good in pursuit of happiness. I just was that movies. A little a matter its units, it's very manipulative, but I think he's really good night. I agree. I think you make the case that that was the woman. Should have one for he talked about how he thought he would never be as good again in a movie ass. He wasn't the pursuit of happiness and that kind of tortured him. Like ten years. what was the one. What was the one that took

beat him, and that is that it's also one of those where you go back and it's kind of surprising you didn't want. Let me take a look at its worst, two thousand six movie, so tat without rash, oscars rate? For is that I think, the following year. Europe back out of six is brought back. That was not. I was there What year was the was the film that one, This is the other forest Whittaker. One final asking of Scotland. so the nominees this year actually LEO for blood diamonds. They are selling for half Nelson Peter a tool for Venus. We'll Psmith for the pursuit of her he's probably should have been released. Anyone we we talked about this because I think when we did the redeposited yeah, we were talking about Lee S decision to throw his his carcase behind blood diamonds for the Oscars and that the report, I think, he's better in their parted than it was above them. And yet we are cause like the forest. Whittaker win is kind of a man.

wind for not winning and like bird and nineteen, eighty eight or something like that. So it's like you have worked just have this domino effect of acting. Words over the years were Appetito Windsor sent a woman's who didn't yeah that year, you know and so that the Oscars are just stuck in this site virtuous cycle that they can. out of I have not had a last king of Scotland conversation along type. Just that's another thing, When we're doing, we watch was talk, but these old Oscars, like in kind of crazy how long it takes them to see certain movies in the moment. Sometimes you have to watch few times to really get a casino- is a good example right, where we did casino. Recently we were stunned by just how ignored it was yet There are lots of different reasons for it. But if you went back- and you read the reviews, most people like it that much it's weird to think that now, because that movies is amazing, but in the moment most people were, I'm, I'm not. Comparing this movie took casino, which I think is a masterpiece, but that was going to be

The case for nightmare alley, if it wasn't nominated, that's the movie that I feel like is little seen that surely was considered a huge bomb because of how performed the box office. It was gear model Toro following up and ask her winning movie yet and people how can one far Bradley Cooper K planchet? I agree one for less on the island, this movie more than that movie, and I think that the movie that overtime more people are gonna, discover and dig because it so so well made and so interesting, but it act denominated for best picture, which goes to show you that once you're in the club, you can hang around you. Even for a film, is considered a flop. They'll Toro is back there, which is better that they might be. Ricardo. You know if something like thousands have been bombed. Tat was bad nazi nightmare. I still have some to watch. I get swallowed up by full, bombastic I've. Seen probably have. I think it's pretty cool I think you might like a coup coopers amazing. It is so Cooper had that category of who had the best year and it has to be at least two movies

Cooper would have been one dominates, Ravisher in liquors pizza. He has the most amazing fifteen minutes. Any movie. I've seen this year of the only one. That's a lot to me and I can't believe documents favor, right now in Vegas insider for being the reporters, I'd Kristen Stewart Second for Spencer, which a movie that I found a poet you like I do. I actually hated that. Will I dont? that director for the work they did that it like that when either its Pablo lorraine- and he also did Jackie the Jaclyn Kennedy from other insufferable movie spencer- I just intensely disliked it and was upset that she got dominated I thought a Libya comment and though I think Olivia COM is the best actress right now age. I agree point blank whenever how rueful for street, for that many years when street just had the unofficial bout firm twenty years? Yes, she has a street

ST built right now at every might arise in every move issues in is. It is an event now, because who is it? Who is our main contender? I think Jessica testing would like to think that she is, and I love just just aim, but she's not I'm already common has great taste. She picks really really great projects he's very consistently in movies that are considered the best move the year thinks he's really getting the lost out her for different reasons than some of the other performances she gives to weigh more quiet and weird performance than what she usually does, but thou movies, I mean you like I'm a bit you that's a really really good movie that I wish was nominated arrest picture to. I thought I really really really like that movie and I thought you could have made the case for Magdalen all too for director totally told a lie illegal, but may do best first feature Oscar. That's like you get Maggie John Hall, your ceremony to four. She obviously made one of the best abuse the yourself it it's a trick, keeping best actresses the massive scale.

Well, that's the one I have no common. If comment as and when that I'm gonna be arid, she should have got nominated for the Father Gretel. I dont think she did, and so I thought, but I I thought options. I was texting you Chris after watching like that move is made that that was the best movie I saw last year and I thought Hopkins should have one and I thought Parliament should have been nominated, and probably one on your member who, for sport actor what What's this year's the Father, the movie, that's gonna sneakers that is not on the radar and I dont think people even contemplated Hopkins winning until it happen so same studio and same strategy, it Sony pictures, classics, release the father also release parallel mothers, which is needed the drama of armour, be that now lotta people have seen clearly dead. They release that sir. related with their release its related possible exactly in it got it only got wide release in February and its Penelope crew.

You know, reuniting with a lot of our. They ve made some great movies together and she's at her best when she's in his movies and she's nominated, and if more more people start to see this movie over the next five or six weeks with a I'd open, best actress race, maybe Penelope crews. The second Oscar. Thus the other thing about these categories. You ve got a bunch of people Verde one before you gotta be kidding. in common with all one casting and Stuart have not one before, though they both you know he's been nominated. A few times already so that movie second parallel there's out my time that idea that now I am not at such a late night is HBO Cable movie with people where make up its. Not great, there was it. There is another surprising best score nomination for parallel mothers to which shows that there is support for it beyond just crews. So maybe that could be. Surprising. When I don't know the other category, other acting categories, still gonna wrapped up to me personally. but as long as Angel Garfield does Winfried Zip, zip boom? That's what I thought I even caught by them

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he's in eighty percent of the shots in the movie. So I guess it's possible. It seems unlike these, also not come campaigning very hard. That's the other thing that is a little bit unspoken here is how harder people gonna work. You know Cumber batch the biggest release, the biggest Taylor over the Superbowl. Was the new doktor strange booby he's the star of the Vienna coming Marvel Movie? That's coming out, may he's gonna be everywhere. He's better coverage against all odds, despite looking like a human platypus is a massive movie star,

So if we're gonna be seeing him for the next twelve fourteen weeks, maybe there's a chance he gets in their my predictions about changes. Twenty times, ok great, I think, Coda snake said Beth Recognizer picture Jesus Christ. I love it as like the fuck at all times sleeper. I'm just I've. Just keep your eye coda. That's bold! If it doesn't wind power, the duck yadda yadda yadda hedge on that bet. best actor is gonna, be tied if Cumber batch once for best actor them will no power. The dogs were best measure for sheep will Smith whence for best actor. Then I think who knows what best movie, I think was movements at common whence I have not seen the Kelpie crews movie. It costs, so I think

be acting as an outside shop about winds? That's that's only, and that is if the Father Category Champions hundred percent winning agree for best supporting actor code. You spent fifty yet agree. luck. I have no idea who wins by supporting actors, but the thought of just had a baby Amanda watching Kirsten Dunstan will Psmith winning Oscars. On the same night, I dont, while holding maybe that's just the most heartwarming storage. Can everything for three children Wilkerson in and babies are they re? There are three kids I think it's pretty pretty secure that our both from my sad stories that that power, Rita, Marina one for sixty years ago, are out of the bushes rate in that movie, I will you and so should watch was I'd story together. I wanted I let's see me, I want everybody said it's really good. It's really good its army. Will it Siemens Bill

so kindly no shit, it's really good, but I thought I was really really great and I wonder if Zoe would click with it because of the performance aspect and they kind of modernize, the story little, but it still sat in the same time period, but the way they shot at the production design tony cushion arose screenplay. It's. That paper is kind of a weird word to use besides story, but it feels more modern. I thought she was label on a bad ESA episode errand into both suggests really like charismatic and ate it. It was a bummer The show is better I'd, so you have the dog I power, the dogs, picture. Yes, which is kind of boring, but you know it's as that. There will best actress, I'm gonna call kidnapped I don't love it, but I really words go. I think. That's what it's gone. Oh, my God Why? I think it is a soft a year. There is consensus, appreciation for her and she, to transform and also she's playing a real person and there's always a little bit of a biased for playing a real first got air best directors.

idea. Has we can't be an eye if it's not champion I'll? Be really surprised? I guess the one outlier on sector is maybe I gave him a gucci who directed drive my car there. Such were wellmeaning amount of appreciation for that movie and movie is hitting HBO Max on March. Second ripe, avow right before voting starts. So if you see a lotta allotted twitter, activity about drive a car in the month of March? Maybe Hama Gucci can creep his way into that conversation and best supporting actor. address you- didn't notice, mimic obeying earned into Boadicea now and original screenplay. I think it's gonna be liquors pizza if it's the worst person. The world, that's wonderful! It fits into the other three him to be a little bit disappointed at well. When is the Oscars, we have like what five weeks six yes, two more years, they're gonna, do it in a twenty twenty four this year, which is really exciting march. Twenty seventh is the show- and I I don't know

Are you ex to watch the Oscars that you're not Alexander appointing a mixer. Far out well, Psmith! Ok, that's what I that's! While what she asked us, because I want to save, will Psmith wins Jaska and I think, but that's gonna, be lots of millions of Americans who someone needs to claim. The Nicholson see it's been years now we thought we talked about this at Lakers Games who claims the Nicholson seat. You know, does alleys he's been going to address both feral at the Oscars who's, the guy? in the front row or the woman in a fragmented be Nicholson while he does come out that much anymore you know is in his eighty cc's retired from screen. Acting, I mean don't get me wrong. I thought I had some action side path Tom. You know you don't think what hours there! Ok here, I'm good at that! That's it! Do you write he's. It does bring the same like devilish energy. The jacket tat much will have at his word of almost every

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pod I did in person would probably anybody the last five years rather than Charlie's throttling the queen. You so amazing about that too, is. was watching an interview him recently, they don't think with variety and he barely said anything. He barely ants nations and he'd. It's fine no case so called good care serious that it goes through it. I got him excited talk about, he got game and about the name. Man that was like, but once you start talking, actors movies, he doesn't go back he's not watching is that he did twenty years ago. It doesn't. Care is tense. Elastic thanks to bring up the next bill were on tips, what's going on and help me understand whereby learn a lot of pain right now,. I actually watched the next lose two ok see yesterday and that handsome young, Australian Josh it ain't you just if he ever finds a big market. It's that he's gonna be rivalling shallow may, for whoever he is a specimen he's just a handsome guy here

Is he like I've? Shallow may became a pointer and he's a bawler. You see him. Those of cross core passes holy shit he's good. He was incredible yesterday. you you should have trader Randal for Fox. You should have Halliburton does, as players Tribune think today about how sad he was to leave Sacramento who sit completely devastated. He was wanted to make it work at Sacramento, Sacramento, Love, Sacramento, Sacramento, New traded me and Edna upon Sacramento, probably keeping the guy. like desperately wanted to be in Sacramento, whose probably my best bar in the team. So I just got Foxfire Randall May the months since the Randal body. Language is just appalling. It's just appalling! It's really. We Its eye, it doesn't seem like you, find the play with any more lashers gonna play with theirs. Weird, what's going on now or in the third quarter. Yesterday of the thunder game, he looked awesome. He looked like twenty twenty one version of himself for he was pushing pace down leading the ball running the offence,

playing with a lot of energy, and then they get out of the fourth quarter. Their lead start shrinking, not when they go into this super slow half were orphans and it is wrong the boring and suck click that it is right. That's not a funding to watch and also their miserable in the fourth quarter of games, especially in the last month and now their stock. I guess, they're, just like you, but you have some young guys that it did. You could have easily that it into attack. I noticed in which ensued in ever allowed. They have the right cried the girl. I know the wrong postwar, Mcbride and Grimes exciting. I need to see more obi topping gotta get quickly, thirty it's a game of atop an archway bear quickly. Then you have like Thailand and eyes. Why? Don't you were gonna be in the lottery display? Those guys I don't care, but there has been a key. I mean the thunder trying to lose games in the next us lost a home game to them I mean what the hell's going on. The fans they were really boon at the end to ESA is even my way and I gave bill what that was going. That's terrible anyway. It's a pretty sad state of affairs with excess you're. My daily tubes is Jesse, has a different team area.

I think that was a smart guy it's over one year and then he moves on to the next to him and he just like when it's a stop gap. When you you don't really know what you, what coach Orlando last your leg Agus large ball Mosely, you just tubes, comes it for one year and then he's the human he's. The the NBA defibrillator rightly does bring back to life gets. I'm players teaches them how to play defence animals. another team is like a traveling adjunct. Professor, it's a great idea, really racist colleges. One everyone knows he's only there for a year. Maybe they don't respond as aggressively. You know they know he's moving on their just like I, just gotta get myself be minus and move on to the next class. The problem at the next to me is that they completely overreact

to getting blown out in five games by the hawks, and they looked at that series and they said, got to keep the band together and they gave her an extension when they didn't need to and double down a derrick rose who could barely even stay in the court in a five game. Playoff series when Sarah Palin, thirty minutes of game and just was bizarre to watch like? I just would not admit my strategy. I think the other thing is that the one thing that the identified as they needed more often and unfortunately they they threw the bag. It up for you I mean I was that was that was a big mistake. You know you watched him on a Celtics like that it's your legs are with brain that or know who's. The guy with brain was an out, wasn't Clyde. Last night it wasn't Clyde, I it's with somebody else and use every four days collection. Like now. I hear that the least clutched they were like you, gotta get him the ball of the day in everyday clutch. Again, it's a coach again! That's testimony

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he's us a running all by wearisome, unbelievable, doubly Debbie stuff coming tat. We ve been working at shoemakers, spearheading that Islam is also running our desire for greater busy guy busy guy. This is my first like pro wrestling trade deadline, though I feel this is that this is the visitor first time I've had the lake skip other work to really prioritize crazy, breaking wrestling news right. It's like almost like the hard shade happening so Cody roads who is Basically, I would say one of the founding fathers of the debate that the founding father now leaving a w and it seems like he's coming back to the debate. This is an earth shattering wrestling weak, something that I think a ladder. but didn't expect, but work explain why we're not like totally suppress blown away or thoughts. Yeah me, listen, I'm rise. There is also it's all surprising in its way. I m. I guess it deserves, background, which is that Gummy Coty left over be several years ago based

You say you want to go, walk the earth and explore what wrestling was like outside of W E, his father. Obviously, the legendary dusty roads made his name in career. outside of Debbie, W e and and and wanted to end in Cody. I think felt a little bit of that call to follow along and he didn't. You know that there are a number of good and evil. Founders of it. You did you tony cod. Is the owner and creative force behind it and and and the money behind it and everything else But Cody and get some rest Kenny mega the young boxes are all thereof by name at least executive. Vice president, when the company start a it was it was Cody leaving doublet mewing owing wrestling the Indies and Japan ring of honour and sort of teaming up there with a mega the young books that sort of made wrestling outside of WMD. We a reality in a way they had a big paper view show before eighty w was a thing that really met possible financially fur for everything

glaze now tony congressmen gotta start his own company in figure this out without Cody Roads, potentially but sort of spiritually Cody. Roads is the founder of this movement in a lot of ways yeah and you have a w- and we talked about this. The blasts Amira took very diverse. Stubby Debbie about ADA be the first one since easy, w that was able from a grand way challenge deputy be at least a little bit re easy. Maybe a channel em in line with the attitude air and how violent it was. They started tapping into substantive dub Debbie was like oh shit and they started calling it a w, was even a bigger chow W tapped into this week culture where we have been wrestling where we have the WWE Debbie style, the big eyes, the old school matches, the whole coggan Ultimate were kind of blueprint and then there's that separate side, which is like the day belts, are five star batches in the newsletter and people who review

steamboat, savage batch from Russia Three and that sort of dna. Which Kenny Omega and the young bucks, where kind of at the forefront of and those were, the guys that Debbie over and over again the a hat and didn't correctly or just ignored completely completely Nawa rebuild build our whole wrestling thing around this around good matches, good storytelling, we're not gonna. Have A hundred people honor you know I do roster we're going to build around where to pick seven thousand two hundred and ten guys were going to have young guys. When I try to do up and coming people but now the guy, who is the spirit of every living? Well, yeah, I mean listens to us and we talk the biggest changes in aid. W is a million per cent legit in terms of petitions W Vena, listen they're, not gonna have the there. You know he has about an institutional advantages in terms of area from rating some money too, my everything debt, but yeah, but but a w is I mean if you go on any forum.

If you want where you and read it, I mean a w, has as much traction is David of you ye in terms of veto, people chattering about wrestling and- and it's been a real legitimate thing now, aid of you did go kind of fill in this space that the w we add sort of abandoned over the years I mean it must be said that that some of their biggest draws in their region- Distance are people like John Moxley, formerly dean, Ambrose, obviously CM punk Brian Danielson Chris Jericho people that made names and deputy and elsewhere, but that's not a sign of of eighty w sort of like caving to the establishment of a thing like that. If these are there wasn't a wrestling, world before any outside of Debbie. I d really before a w and in the United States at least in, and you know, that's where the big stars you're gonna come from and they break

out of eyeballs on the screen and see him punk talking into a microphone is big would be a big as draw for double use. It is for a w at mean, but they are they do they think they they offer something different in the competition has been really really evident, Cody roads for a lot of different reasons, never really never really had that same topped. Here unity W. I think, there's some backstage reasons, for that is what a difference of going on, but he was a little bit separate, nay, the view- and I think that there is some Gender would ever in for a lot of reasons. He was willing to walk at the individual and it seems like well, that's definitely what's happened and it seems, like you said, for Debbie that view we, where I mean for we can talk about it. There is for about a million different reasons. He could conceivably won't be walking in a made man, it's the first kind of major wow moment Debbie Debbie's had with assigning since when. Well we're gone back yard. Is it

oh yeah, I mean age thousand any debut in the row. Rumble was a big You no holy shit moment, but that was it does and what does like five six years ago, yeah and that again wasn't that wasn't like some contract high security No, that was it. There was no glass, there is no forbid door. Open anger or glass shattering when that happened. I mean Monday night Wars ere. I guess what what would be the case that the parallel Chris Jericho coming over, but even Jericho was a guy who w we saw a lot of progress and an elevated him a little bit in the transition. Jericho's by favouring, because it was the greatest set up and then entrance and tapped into This really cool they now with wrestling back. Then, where is like the resting fans,

out of learning rumours of stuff on the internet in Tis, painting Jago going through the stands, hoping something might happen, and in that case it was a year ago might show up today and then it fired happened. They crush the entrance and it's like one of the best two minutes, and yet it is great and real it is. I guess I don't know anything. Gopher come back, maybe well here, but there was no any surprise with that, your plugged in it all. You knew the gold rag in pretty much every time. You kind of expected goldberger. He wasn't. I may go back, you know it has a lot of upside for debate. Have you we, as as evidenced by the vaguely so wrestling into his fifties, but like he's not that is not distorted dude, whose just gonna go wrestling. You know Japan on the regular euro is he's not a keys out a wrestling lifer ease of big paycheck. Guy knows it is a big main event guy and and its it it's a little. But it's it's it's a different five now Cody roads. It remains to be seen if he shows up maybe we, whether he's gonna, be a day in day out performer.

a negotiated, moreover, part time contracts me really there, there's no way to know but he's definitely gonna eat. Every represents a lot to drive. You have you even you know, right off the bat that I was saying I was. I was on a jumped in the MAC Mania pie, gas on the Ringer Wrestling show earlier today, and I said you know: there's rumours their rumours, stone, cold, Steve Austin might make an end ring return. A rustle mania this year, no oh, no dies. True, who knows I mean He'S- he's always get up there in years, he was an injury and retired because victory a lot of people that making cutbacks without these fancy new- medicines? They have these days yet, but I was but I was asking you know it's how much you think Vince were paid to bring stone, cold, Steve, Austin back for Romania to sell.

You think I mean like, if you told me five million dollars. I wouldn't be shocked right. If you told me ten million dollars, I would say, check your math, but I said, might not be shocked to have an executive vice president away. Either you come back with a perception that he Ito. He thought the grass it be greener and he was wrong. That's probably words about the same amount of Vincent Man and the Dutch I believe that of collective ego with this point right. So why largely unheard w tune W might have been telling off a tiny bit his cause. I think they made the classic mistake of they just started, adding to many people and had got away a little bit from what their blueprint was is working to push axiomatic people. I think that a lot of people on the now, but that what they ve been They ve got a pretty good job of bouncing that out. You know they dont there that mean as far as that. As far as that problem goes days, they ve done a good job of sir to solving at which it is to not have their biggest people on

be every week in a wrestling began week out, you know, but now, but you re army that yeah I mean it's like a bit like it's like you see, you know we're like boxing We're like these guys, don't fight every Monday night. You know so I mean it's it, sir. You know they. They know they ve lost her way. I think today, sort of found a sort of temporary ceiling in they'll probably blow pass it at some point in the not too distant future, because that's out these things tend to go, but but Yet- and I thought I think you know Coty I think it safe to say that you know if it was a contractual. If it's a money issue would have rose. Coty probably means more WMD at this moment in time that He D W and so in. That's as it makes some amount says a code. You roads is also doing some extra the stuff for Warner media. You know he he was a good one of the judges on it. Big show what he had a reality show over there and over me. I think that's a little bit beside the point on that sure that Turner is gonna. Have that much trouble filling those spots in and I'm not sure that

money is good enough. Debbie. I e the roads friend a really cares that much, but but you know it it's, it say. I think that for the big picture, the biggest thing about it is four wrestling vanderdyke you like me, like everybody else, it's exciting this week that people are starting to go back and forth. Not just wonder I am because any and it's not newsletter Debbie of your home side of either the wit. The weight was cool Monday night words is that you never knew like people be goin in different directions and you would and people like Jericho, Eureka was more meaningful to double. Maybe they had been ABC W. The radicals same thing, Eddie Guerrero coming over was immediately more meaningful and w e death and, and vice versa, So to right I mean you know most the guys have signed with it you w from W e r the time of their wives over there. You know or are beginning able to do so. They wish they could do it every deputy. So it's it's really interesting if they can, if it, if it ends of working both ways

You think you're LISA piece of this was tony cons. Ben carry out there work I I need me me stuff with the success of the double the last four years that I was watching from Afar guy, who managed to see how that goes for him with him trying to become. characters grabbing a lot of the I'm, the reason is going well and I just maybe I'm over think it it, but Cody Jumpy back to debate a makes. Me think like. Could that had been tony car related, whereas I lose fuckin guy now he's taken credit for everything I mean. I think that there is probably a dollar figure there. again. Anything like that go away right, but here I saw only the issue any number of things could have been a play but yeah they. I think that when it when we know that you started did seem like it was the sort of from outside perspective, this consortium between these, like four five rest

Do you know really had a lot of ideas and a lot of vision. Everything Antonia gone, who also just wanna put on transition, is succeed, yeah, and I think that, as as its as its not yet Tony kind has been more central. Now he's on onscreen character like Vincent Man and work is Eric. Bishop was now Yasser that you, I won't, who knows will see if he wants to be. It seems that you would be, if you really if you want to do eager already be doing it, but certainly in in the inner offscreen yeah he's become the central character in a w hit the press release. Are they really city it. But I did easing. You know fond farewell to code, and brandy roads it lit, had lifted his credit as CEO. president general manager and head of creative volley. All we read that right as a lot of titles I mean I will say this if, as you, it does seem like he is the head of created that here

the main that the main story- writer, the main Udo crowd, was that I restarted, though, is that we are a bit. If that's true, then he deserves all discredit. Given twenty more titles, because they ve been telling stories that fans have been justifiably having for you know from W e for a long time, the big day they treat their audience like they're, paying attention and liked or smart and yet give them lots and lots. Give Tony gone lots and lots of credit for that, but yeah. If it start, if the plan was, this is gonna, be a big leg. You know co, OP, Billig uproar, wrestling, CO, OP, where we all get our vote and we all get our ideas and we all get an opportunity to watch him flourish that is over You know you we rise eighteen months later and there's just one person in charge whether or not it successful sure there's gonna be some people that would rather do something else. What, then, are the flip side, as they did Debbie Debbie, the the biggest issue that I mean they have had a bunches she's, the last couple of years, the bar chain, the annex ii brand?

I sewn on totally get that and not using it. Exteriors like to build these young stars that then come in and get push Debbie debate and they just don't in right. watch it through my son, who knows too cool for wrestling, but he'll be back like aged nineteen, o Philip by you know like semitic Ricochet, whose, like I can't wait till ricochet, goes any just completely kicks ass Debbie than he comes in. His is treated like another guy, you know, and so he had that peace, but then the real, the real thing that I think I've struggled words was just like they having cater to the people who just love it a bit hard just gimme like to really get wrestling matches a scheme to all the matches, with the latter twists and turns, and- and I think that's right w really took their launched last copier say W is like this is all we want to give you Debbie Debbie was stolen there, oh, my God, Brok was there now is

the royal Rumbaugh, now is thrown guys around, didn't it it just ideas, bigger than life kind of marvel, marble characters which seem like that's what Vince wants at this point, I just I just disagree. I think you can have both Well, yeah, with five hours of network broadcasting every week and yeah all peacock time beside. Yes, you can have both you know, and yet I was well RO? Last night, when my wife and the twenty four seven title segment came through wishes, basis are running com, Betty that goes through Monday night rod? She was laughing at you. I don't you like this now that you know what as like away. They'll time on a three hour show. Yes, it's totally great. You know I wouldn't necessarily book this into my like one hour broadcast, but yes, it fits. They have time to do everything they could. They could do it and the idea that everything has to be sorted. The same yeah you're right. It's it's it's ridiculous

without it with all the time they have. When you look back, I know that, like you know that the institution of W E does not care about Savage Steamboat, even a free, should the amount they care about? Hogan, Andre, you know from wrestle mania threat. I think there's a little bit her shoulder shrugging in some quarters up there with just a cat was good, but why we asked by people keep asking me about this. The point is, you can still put that on the car. You can still give that match. Thirty minutes end and on a paper view their otherwise would have kind of and in our role at a most fans at least they'll be saying now you know edge age, styles, twenty eight! Minutes that was the error rate is match. I've seen this month like that, was like a big deal. They had the ability to do that and that the vacant relinquish some of the ground to a w right. They can say, will let you

the smaller guys will let you have liked a crazy five star work rate guys will weaken the will it. You have the bloody matches like whatever, but you can't just relinquish good matches right. You can't yeah, just relinquish like we're. Gonna have good professional wrestling on our professional wrestling programme because they can do it. You know that it's right there and big. Given that a w I mean on dynamite. Last week they had a title match between hangman page lands. Archer that was everybody in the world, knew that hangman page was gonna win. It was broadcasts television, not a major show, and it was one of the best matches I've seen it forever they just and that you, then they can make a good match as thin air, and they give it time and yet always to really succeed as a good match and that's baby that he is not as it does not. The copier model figures have to do what they do. You know it's it's wrestling dislike. Let me let the rescuers got there in success will they still certainly have enough hours to be able to do that, yeah

tragedy, are the biggest issue it doubly thou, be just from a following sampling, adjusted too much you know, and I knew that when they took the Fox money and they create the Friday show, but they you don't. I that really hurt an accident. I just need you at some point. They had too much product before we go. Let's do it. I think the world is in good hands right now, call you might have to turn the camera. Let's book, Cody Rhodes first two months, Deb Debbie, let's forget his gimmick whence bigger that can already what's figure out what we want to do with them, because we could go in two directions. Here, we can either go in the direction of better than everybody. Here I laughed. I proved myself now coming back and I was too good for this place to begin with four he's, just arrogant Bill inside right. Just me I, like I'm better there,

view. I just proved that the only thing that's gonna keep me back would be the same politics that may be left in the first place. He goes that round. Yet we could also go thee. I'm back, But to a trust him is he a more from the debate that you really want to be? We could go that whole rout or we go the Hay Debbie Debbie used to care about great matches. And I'm just here I'll wrestle anybody and we just like Ebay, speed, quinces flagging me. I am now all the good matches roll through me and we are going to reshape this. So those three directions, and maybe there's one I left out- which which one would you vote for well to take him in reverse order. Any Cody roads are really really good. Ressler he's more of a guy that can that is really good with it. If his dance partner is gonna, get a you know, it is, is excellent than they can have a five star match, but, yes, Cody. Is it a coat? He has not. You know traditionally been the sort of guy. That's gonna, get a five star match.

You know that of a wrestling, a broom or whatever, by aids at any rate, but he's really great for the W B. We see which I think actually raises the bar a little bit wise and Debbie of you for your second idea. There is probably nothing that would make me happier and make sands freak out more than if you showed up and like a Jackson, so Jaguars T shirt and was just they kept saying like he's up here from Florida. What does he do it? Like? He's? The new outside our bodies have remained w that'll, be fine. I think that the way to go is probably number one. I think that if you take the Jericho example, the thing that may Jericho worked that really pave the way for him to be champion in doubled up you. We had to have the clear that he did it. They they put him in that they put him face to face, while metaphorically, with the rock the moment he Dubuque Right was just we're gonna put you opposite our number one guy yeah and it didn't have to be a mass, but it was putting them next to each other. these guys are unequal footing. I think if it were me, I don't know I mean roman rains and brought closer assorted, cordoned off doing their own thing, but it

me well, no, they don't have to be, but that's I mean that that's it. If it, if that set for Romania, I can deal with that, but my if it were up to me I would I would have come roads, come out, introduce Vincent mean and interrupt Vincent Man, you know or interim or better yet say I mean interrupt it AAA Francine Heaven, a wound in Tripoli is going to get in the ring, but but Coty and for police have the sort of this sort of ambiguous rivalry as the ito, the two guys you're steering different ships. At the same time, you know if, if events or AAA, they're the Maghreb. Cody roads comes back and he's just like yell. I'm the air to pro wrestling, not you guys, my dad was. The euro is a more important resto than either of you. Now, whenever I mean my, I deplore about wrestling than you ever knew. And I realize they cheer him

how'd you have now. Here's comes out. Interrupts forensic man comes in where the Jacksonville Jaguars Lawrence Jersey, so maybe the lay this back down goes in demands, grabs the make from vents and reside eyed the best right now I want to rescue best, guided night raids comes out restless, rains beats him, now, Lester Roads is odd. Hunt for fur wrestle rains roads. I think he takes it from raids. Yeah takes the tide. Airum just wins it right away in in this vein of fifteen minutes, it's a cold. Shit, this guy, just when the debutante title and now it's like less, there has to go against him in Romania, and now it's like, as this guide staging a full coup de tie Debbie the minutes I'll be another. I think

The Brad's go worry there is. That is that you know the worst. RO wrestling releasing W w e is to look like you're sort of a given raids. Look like the Vincent man. As I co signed, you're like it like, you were It is going to make you the main guy, no matter what the fan say, you gotta give the fence and inputs, or I would just let it get their gets. Him cheers. You know shit talking MC man and then you can do anything. I mean there's a on Saturday, the elimination chamber and and in that met me that their their competing for the time for the W B title. Roman rains holds universal title and he's gonna fight brought closer Brok Lazarus also in the elimination chamber, so that a lot of people are thinking broccoli he's. Gonna win and it's gonna be tight. Oversee title wrestle mania is get, but they could they could have someone like Rollins when the elimination chamber and let says, be the double

guy- that Coty roads comes in picks a fight with and have made a vent for that by the way up and also match they. It would be a great match and they and they have rubber Russell Mania. Two nights, it's two nights and they don't w B. Doesn't on paper have like it's like the date they made. two main events, they don't have like four five main events there shuffling around between these two shows rate and they got Rhonda rousing. They got whatever Becky Lens she's gonna. Do it me that's a big thing if they can get us in back, that's a huge draw, but I mean they they do need well out a little bit an idea? I think I just figured out what they are going to do for, as you were talking Goddammit This is what they're going do after I tell you gonna, be like. Oh, my god, that's a they're going to ok! Let me know, comes in the way you set it up a meal they goes after rendered was like you know what I was here: Randy was here to Sana wrestling legends,

and one guy got all the brakes. He sucked out all the right people he kissed all kinds ass and I tried to do things the old fashioned way I tried to earn my chances. I try to just do good, wrestler, good storytelling couldn't compete with this other guy at all the ways he went around behind the scenes, kissing whatever ass it took, and now here still there I had to leave enough. I'm here to take his territory because it was bullshit that he took it for me in the first place rendered took by spot, everything he achieved should have been mine. Does that all yet Are you aware that will yet we yet he works for the renewal and his word and vote legacy for a little while he was a grand your duty, that kind of an essay draft class, but our. But I agree I mean that I think I think that's that's right angle. I mean he's easier to take it up

and I declare declare wanted somebody come now to get there. And work in a lot of the sort of rumoured. His between Does erodes invents man. You good to editors, there's all kinds of stuff there, and I mean, I think, Vince, as always, probably I had a sore spot in his heart for Coty rose. Despite the public perception, Vince really did have a soft spot in his heart for dusty roads and end Ed Cody is, you know, checks a lot of boxes for the sort of ressler that Vincent Man wants no I'm any easier legacy he's. Also, like that, like he even ease, I can act and they ate dragging it. I look good in energy, and and and the one Vince ever saw as a main venture, but now walking back in his one. You know I mean really know if you is whatever contract he's going to sign, puts him in the class of the sort of elite, no pun intended debit of you guys. You probably work more dates and Brok Wessner. Yet you know Vince

since Coty roads might be resting for the twenty four seven title in a month. You know for all we know Vince Day. They think they might not treat him very well, but generally they were pretty good track record with their sort of elite cheer. You know parttime talent and It erodes gonna walk in the door being one of those guys if he wants to be. You know, so what the thing w needs more than anything in the world is more? Darzac Moreno, I mean where I was argument somebody for a whether not good, erodes the bigger start in south rise. I think that sword proves that point like. I don't think that sets Rawlins anything resembling a household named, despite being like the one of the biggest names and Debbie Deputy Sokoto roads at walks in the door as a top ten guy Debbie have you we immediately and a top five die if they presentiments both can argue inner circle. So it's less their rains, I think said browsers and

drew? My entire sort of floating around drew back attired as they keep pushing the hell out of here. I need you. And their merely used are going to Bobby lashly the others. If there's a lot of obviously big years arrested amid the new day as a group is hugely valuable, Becky Land Rhonda aroused, as you just said, her mothers there's a lot of their there. A lot of people who were who are sorted in that top tier so he's just a night else he's he is immediately in that and the one they ruined or they blew, I should say, Kofi Kingston Cause, I thought, add something with them. In the end, you could say that thing about, Biggie mean as partners it's the date, they have those guys have a tons of upside and tons of fans support, and for what I mean, I don't think that.

Damn you ye. I and I understand on some way were White Dove Yogi hit the brakes on both of em, but it was whether or not for what, at whatever the reason was doing it. It was that it was an institutional failure, not harness. the sort of support that they naturally have any they some more shirts and anybody. You know they they get a reaction that nobody else gets. You can't turn that into a you know, main event: Roy like an ongoing main event level star man, that's a problem. It's a mess! I should There we could hear the ring arresting show. We ve got a good stuff coming. It's we ve been working out there. Now. What do we? Eleven years there has been long time there have been around you're living together, see him see him punk day. Beer did the pipe w e like a month after you hired me a grantline there now he's got gray, hair and beard always wrestling you for another company after a seven year, lay off right, so Yasmine, it's been a long time. It's good to see. As always, thanks for coming up

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