The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Ryen Russillo to discuss the Clippers collapse in game seven of of the Western Conference Semifinals vs. the Nuggets, where this game ranks among historic playoff collapses, how the Nuggets match up with the Lakers in the Western Conference Finals, panic Clippers trades and more (2:55). Then Bill and Ryen talk about the Heat beating the Celtics in game one of the Eastern Conference Finals, what Rockets should do next, and more (1:20:40).
This is an unofficial transcript meant for reference. Accuracy is not guaranteed.
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right now. First, our friends from projects are right. We're tape it ass. It is eight forty five specific time, Tuesday night, we you're sellers postmen Thursday, said hey Priscilla, what a pretty Tuesday night instead game, seven clips nuggets, who knows maybe something will happen. Here's what happened! One of the one of the good play I've chokes in history, the NBA where'd you get to that in a second. But I want to start on positive, though the polio courage, we haven't, had an impact for centre. In almost twenty years, I would say since two thousand and two shack, the third of his three finals and Bp Seasons when he could still
deep down and just destroy a team, and since I wave at Dwight Howard of it and beat with a cups of coffees with guys with deep down, we knew they weren't great and I think Jokic has a chance to be the first impactful guy we've had in twenty years before tonight's game. Twenty seven playoff games, two thousand six hundred and twelve in fifty one percent field- garlic, really nobody in the history of the week- has done that for their whole career and then today, If no Murray was the guy, who's got other points. Yoke had shouted tripled double in the third quarter. He just completely this combat belated coopers and yeah. The clippers fell short, and we can talk about all the terrible things they did in the series. But the bottom line is dated, know what to do with Yoke edge, didn't know how to Send him didn't have a plan for it and even in game seven as its slipping away their doubling him their blessing him? It's like that,
no idea who he was. What was your reaction? Is Euro Achelous we always talk about changing of coverage is right in we do in retirement of football. I'm in and we get really excited about it with Toronto and Nick nurse and then some stuff, worse, bolster even downplayed it in the Boston. Gamers again, a few zone positions, but we like this stuff right relay it I think Jeff and Gandhi was incredibly Van Gandhi and cut was very, very telling. It worries I get. They just keep doubling em they just given we all get shit any destroying it to everybody. Now again, what are you saying? You're doubling the greatest passing big men of all time, which is what being Gandhi called him. Yet it was like it was in the second quarter than by the time they had run again. There are now a joke. It's a joke edge! It's out! Walton anymore. I mean that I stepped out better that seriously like what kind of come up the series is for your kitchen is standing and where he is in this game in that's what happens the place? That's why it's so fun, but there's part of me that goes with it venture a change it though,
did change it where they put a big on him in the switch but you'd selling out in your kind of double and by the way, the clippers or up nine. At one point here: ok, they're up nine Third Korea and in Polish George gets. His third fell at five fifteen other, maybe good on office, and I have never come back. Murray unleashes, but then on some of these double actions where there's times where I've watched and burn out so closely over the years ago. I don't know that too man thing really going to work well when Grant hits a couple threes and then Harris gets his first one and then mill sap hit that one of the top of the key when they doubled again you'll like ok. Well, this is different now, because a lot of games grants us out there to miss and not rebound Harris can't shoot to save his life. I think it's probably a lot of people that forgot mill. Sap was on this team three times this year
but this whole series man, I don't to get too for the weeds with it, but at least four Alicia struggling for game. Seven, I think it's almost having to credit yoke is going well look if this is what you're doing and you ve. Given me all these options. I've already figured them all out now, because it seven games zone of and I'm too good That's the key point, your challenging somebody who already The answers to the test. You're saying like K, she's dead, multiple choice, destinies Have the it's ok right here? What are you doing? Yeah it's a c b. What are you doing? I'm ready. I already know how to handle this. He had thirteen. It says He had one catching the paint where he was facing opposite to a guy at the elbow of the three any got doubled fake to pass to the opposite corner and immediately. And around like with these guys all know everybody sorcery position. That's why we see read or out about zero point, two him being like you're, not a year off your spot. He
He knew that he wasn't passing the guy in the corner was passing into somebody behind him exactly like you're saying, because now we so comfortable any seven feet getting double just looking over everybody. If they do the double and then they back off it he's smart enough to take his time and get the little found find jumper the runner or pretend he's gonna. Have the FAO jumper and then hit somebody last. Second, he had thirteen assess which create but it is Mary was six four thirteen from three the rescue team assent for twenty four. If they had hit more threes in this game and if a credit aid. When you have you, don't you think those couple times word a geiger found because joking, a lap, and it didn't counters this for him, like he honestly could have had twenty plus assist in this game. If there's two lapse where the lamp actually goes in when the guy's getting fouled and then for their people had three or whatever he's up there. I just thought he was so dominant and it's weird because Mary had forty Murray. Finally, showed up, you know in both
you saw a riot massive mass at his lower away. Its second quarter was knots, may the guy that shouldn't you think, like alright jokic. If exuberance gets voucher, butchers, what but it may in this game. Well, I'd. That's can be trouble for the cookers Murray. They have seven guys to throw him and he was torch in them and I felt like the spirit of the clippers you could see it fading, as the second half way, which is the same thing that happened on Sunday and game six rate. I can the hope the whole point of the clippers this whole time as you go. Ok, look at all these options that they have when it's right when it's right. It looks pretty good data when there are three one. You like a cat is what supposed to happen and when there are nineteen and games sexually. Ok enough for this, and then you go what the hell is wrong. With these guys doing, go K will now whatever human
sure there is which I don't think we do enough of. Where I always say: look you can't fake being desperate. You can't be as desperate as the team this down to own out their terrible. If we're talking like a nets or magic first round series here being down to us, I can help you gave your pretty good in Denver is pretty good. It there's just a different gear that they're gonna have, but then, when it gets to game seventeen I bill. And the clippers git up in almost ten, and then they get up seven early in the third quarter. You think they're playing well, though, cause I, I didn't If everyone at great, I didn't think their play well, but I thought whenever they attacked Danvers, actually it bad actually pretty bad and the rotations Look you have to believe me, you ve got his pointing it out is like look. He started talk about that pistol screen that they were setting Gett n, Can then why burgundies is better than anybody else that does it out of? There is another color commentary. Pertinaciously for basketball lists are pointing out the pistol screen. Problems are getting had? It immediately was I to place they re. He knew the action and he was like this is why whites messed up and Denmark messing up some other defensive rotations.
Guns even pointing out I'm going. Ok, you know, like the normal thing, is going to happen here, because quite and yet then it gets back to something that we ve talked about. We're feels like we ve had all these negative storylines with these teams, because it's been so unproven, it's. Why did the clipper sing that? What do they think so highly themselves go. Why wouldn't did that Toronto last year? Glided allow any of you guys the rest of you guys haven't done anything. So why do you guys carry yourselves like this team? That's like a near three after back to back titles, and that's gotta have a care it himself with this. This group that never really click yet at the same time okay, how the hell do I ever get a three slash: four and how to make it up. Ninety two game: six: how did that team? Just look fucking petrified in the fourth quarter, the game, seven, those are grown men that were scared to be playing basketball, and I give quiet pass because I think he was trying to press the issue and it s working like here
awful game, but other guys were scared bill yeah. I agree with that, but I do think you know game. Seventy saw the first staff: the demagogy dated three and it had all the makings is like a man is just going to have to be marine yoke fish and the end date. Those two guys together kind of kept timber hanging around until December started making some plays, but they were playing a defence though, and I think he think back to their Jeremy Green Trade row case he's. Ok, we feel like save money, any interested, Jeremy grant them reside. Sure I thought he did. It job on a wine. I don't I don't know we know quite a macro say he. You know that like you, I hate using the word choke. I thought he looked tired and this is something we have talked about heading into these plants save the every other day. Every other day, every other day was acting to favour. Younger teams was that going to hurt older guys Second, I heard somebody like Hawaii, whose really been careful about how much by
and she wanted to put out himself the last couple years now look at who we have in the final, for we have this young Celtics team. Ever Miami team. That has a couple of guys, but for the most part younger guys, like Bam and in here on people that and then this timber team built, two young guys, then the Lakers who haven't really been tested yet, but I do wonder leg if you had home court any end date. The schedule wasn't his kind of stacked as it were, as with this event, the same result will never know, but I think we have to mention. It was certainly with Denver, because when you look at their runs. It'll have in any kind of more so two years ago than than this year, but you feel equal weight him at once. There was a record, the road that was like more me two years ago in talking about this team, yet or even this year with Philly. Unlike way, this healthy team also EC seriously in you suck on the road and then everything happened so home in road does really matter, but I think it's much though I would you want to get back to the clippers thing, and I do want to get back
why I almost ain't say Languedoc as I would add that in the next segment I worried now gave them why they one first. You know that doing what you want to give you more room here. Just talk about Yo Kitchen. What is now that this is a fun part. This is the great part about the plans. You have these kinds of performances, and now we have to look at you a lot different. Now, even though the numbers might be the same. Even though look his plan of regular season numbers is blown up, but just to control the game. The way he didn't shoot at great tonight he's also, and that group of like how come you don't shoot a little bit more, but he so patient he's dissecting every single thing once he gets rolling and, as we said at the very top once he understands everything that you want to do it's it's like MAGIC Johnson types. What about when you eggs the rebounded? He goes and he's running three. I too fast breaks in that's where, when you're talking, I was lucky enough to see Wharton had its peak and then when you on the south eggs when he was a little Regina, Epic, never say ever, but still like an incredible bench where you had ever thought
Jonas, I like Granny Youtube with him stuff like that and then you'll catch and those are the three great passing centers of all time. I do feel like it's funny that Jackson mentioned Wilt Chamberlain is a great passer, which is just You don't you is forcing he wanted it when the assist title that one year and really leg was assessed, assist, assess childlike when Rhonda was chasing, assess and they travelled in other spheres. Guy everybody said was a great passer back then was Russell because an rustles like never mention any these, but if you go back like Russell Average over I've assess at least one of those players and was a great outlet. Pat his outlet, passing alone on those old clips, is like unbelievable that passer and then also these to put him kind of academic uses yoke edge at the top of the key and, run all these little zigzags and he would hit people own first, for whatever reason is a dimension yoke which I think the different
with him in these other guys, is his ability to offer dribble to create, plays. I ve never seen centres do that before it's it's kind of I've, never seen by like him, and what was not like him, while as a grey passer, but they were not alike as players at all and when the yoke of think first what's happened to you go like who is this guy and he looks like a lot of people to get this reference? Would you ever member being a little in like, maybe it was you and your body? Is your own little league baseball team, so you were like the popular kids and recess, but there was that kid had like a hand me down winter coat and he always had boogers in his nose and he was like bigger than everybody else and really really talked to him in his face is always like red and weird:
and then, like one of the cool kids. Like said some tomb started, making fun of amended, he just went berserk remote on you beat you and all your friends up in them every success, that's what yoke it looks like TAT S when I see him he's got like these weird, like jogging things, Hill ill. I cannot do this odd apology to a rough with his hands. His mouth they'll be like and then he's just killing everybody and he wouldn. I write it yeah you an impasse, my alien tests, that gives you brought an alien, no basketball game and that could even the best, whereas never not pick. Your courage here can only seventh. Eighth pick he's like an extra large share. My face, Well, so I did some research crises. You know he's over twenty five, ten in five again in the end, the plants they share so heading into this game. He was twenty six
and in five and one slash two, but now he had like six, probably like twenty six hundred and eleven and five NASA, but that here all the players who were twenty five, ten and five, which shooting fifty percent field goal yolk. Instead of twice TIM Duncan Larry Bird Native for Chamberlain and sixty seven Blake Griffin in twenty fifteen underrated, Playoffs Berkeley and eight thousand six hundred and twelve games, there will Chamberlain sixty eight magic in a t Bill Walton in seventy, seven and Lucas, and seventy two. Those are all the guys. Sixteen more. All of those guys are all a famous except Blake, and at least for when I went to not yeah those guys are top ten all time guys. This is not something over the course of a play: ops, you're not supposed to be twenty. Five. Ten in five he's twenty five, twelve and seven- and I know the stats are a little messed up, because the way Basque was being played out, but it's not like he shooting
freeze its, I think he's assisting like this is our flow. The game shit he's just dominant. Ah, sixteen thirty assist twenty two bore. Twenty two, both an x ray, throws avenues, use five at thirteen missed every three that he took tonight. So if you just look at this is one of those basketball reference games. You really all that was a weary game like, but he wasn't doing much you go now he was, he was gonna, do that here too, doing everything crazy. We discredit how incredible Murray was it just kind of changed everything, but I still kept waiting for that clippers come back and kept waiting for it to happen, but this is like I don't know, what's going to happen next, you know I probably would pick the Lakers, but I I now look at it. Jokic Anne Marie is dead and this isn t. This becomes this battle of like all. These guys have always been this not really
not really, and now they just did it again. They came back from three one again and when they are down three want to Utah like a man, this timber team, like what is why do people on tv sailor? God look out there like the sneaky team that could come out of the west, and now it's real and now it's possibility so yeah like now. I look at the Denver Nuggets differently, because now they ve done something and what they did against this Coopers team. I still can't like I'm sitting here in disbelief that this actually just happen. Well, let's talk about a key component continuity and we're in this league. Now, where everybody just changes, teams, constantly changes, players constantly and the stars, switch teams and all the stuff in the clippers are great example of that right. These guys were thrown together. They played two slash three of a and we never wear a hundred per cent comfortable with where they, whereas a possible container pandemic, happens, go back in the bubble. In that same thing, on off switch, they look great one game ease up the next game. Whatever's gonna endeavours. Eighteen, that's kind of grown up together here. You know they added
grants, a new peace porters route and we know, even though a train of them last year, but the Yoke Age, Murray, Harris male Sap those guys but more together for a while regrets been there for a year, and I think this really help the cell takes in that raptor series to where you had your smart, in jail in Tatum, and those guys Wars thou together fur fir trees is genuine and smarter put together for years. I do think continuity helps and when you really noticed it is when things are gone south and like this Cooper, steaming game, six and game. Seven. Where all the said they look like a pick, a basque about them. They don't have the history. The first time. I really noticed this as a phenomenon of as the awaits ethics cause. The oh it's ethics were awesome. When they were whatever they like. Sixty six in sixteen sixty five, seventy in the regular season in the plan camera. In Atlanta was Goin Adam and it was like they just a cotton
beauty in the cohesiveness. Just was Marietta had built it that employed with each other enough and they barely guy I later they ve they blow my game. Seven same thing in the Cleveland Series took them forever. They finally finish them off and seven in the kind of built that continuity is the plants went along and then a kind of clicked and that a traitor is then it took off. I dont think this Coopers team had a chance to do that, and I don't really know what their identity was, because I think did the bitter end. They didn't know who their best five guys were, at the same time, they're still playing Lou Williams at this game. They're going to have but the blue and should be playing at all in the series. The defensive stats on him worse than the hero stats, because that Denver was hunting him way worse than Toronto. Aside encumbered this and they didn't eat his offense, but the doktor says I got this. These are my guys, will figure it out and then I'll send the game's over. Who is just how it was hard to bet against it, though, even though that was something is happening, the whole time right, because we're watching them
What are they gonna play together? Remember going on a coward and he was like. I think this is great by design, because the russian gas him like due to stop I design they would love to have twenty games with guys, they would love to have twenty games in a row with all their players, a figure what's happening, and then you come back and my much wasn't ready to go. Lou gets busted for Goin, city, Pat Beverly, in and out of line up the whole time and its really tough. Like they had a moment with Reggie Jackson, we're Reggie Jackson was plan, some really good basketball forum and then you'd say You know what I don't really want about. They're closing and then They go to him at some point and then sham. It returns his ankle. But, like I thought, oh hey sham its back on the scene. He had been able to hear any shots, Laplace whatsoever presented in wanting, up on him, but the yoke its numbers against my treasure, terrible the second, numbers were terrible and long stretches throughout this play a season. They try to fix it up. I think late with Paul George, getting ins some more minutes with the second unit, but really what it
she was like when you max out- and everybody in the world wants Paul George, like it look people to listen to me, something I'm giving choir pass, I'm going to save you the time I am. He had a bad game for a guy. That's it legend status. This isn't his tenth harden game. Okay, this is Gabby who carried a franchise by himself and absolutely diced up the heat becoming a superstar all right, and so since he has those on his resume, I'm going to look at him differently because I go. You know what he's forced the issue, but there's there's a bunch of those possessions in the fourth quarter. And I knew it Marcus Morris who may have screwed the whole series up by pushing mill, sap and mill nappy. Unlike look, you wanna be a fuckin, tough guy, all the time I look. Market forces have player, but he's not tough, mentally and mills have spent around long enough,
then mill sap. Has it incredible run in that game? It's that come back in your like out now, look at all because of that. That beats overstating it a bit but more Scott, the ball and he didn't want it in the fourth quarter and then it gets stuck with it any took a shot. I still can't believe more set that corner three against clearer in the Dallas serious, because I've seen a MR shot. His whole career, Reggie Jackson, has a flailing attempt to Michael Green goes to throw it down to give us some momentum that things upon the half for than Poleos urging the same possession has. The ball throws it out of bounds. Paul George Dense decided back board, Yet I will the coroner threes and you're just going you guys are all toast like you're was just act like you. I dont like saying choking at only questioning the man who have these guys cause deep down like these guys have all had to go through a lot, but to have it be so obvious in front of your face in that fourth quarter, you're, like nobody
Not one of you guys is comfortable right now to think Kauai's discomfort was, I can just drive in on a million people right now and throw it up at the hoop, but you know nothing we're done like we're toast. We were watching a team walkthrough its own funeral. We need a better word than choke, it's almost like Gac, but you know it. When you see it did they look scared to you bill. I thought they. You know where we say, or they look a little tight. I thought that the whole team at their luddites once the nuggets through a copper haymakers, and it was like nine points. Every eye. Five coopers. You ve never run the nuggets and make a shot and you could just kind of sea it. It was that hot potato look and more so is a good example. At Boris got the bark of times more as big tough guy from Philly want. No part, Reginald Accolade, it is applying amount there. He was terrible, unlike the minute and a half, he played all these dudes. I never just for them. And I was always on the record. I never was
and the more signing I didn't like the booze, the met at the deadline and I didn't think they'd address their biggest issue, which is like what happens if you're playing Jokic your ethic Davis of the playoff series? What are you doing? Are you like? There's a team really needs, do bots But I don't know if there a ton of things available. I least Morrison some Forget it like he's, not unplayable, but I am not one of those when he got stuck taken at first shot. Did you take in the fourth quarter and I was like he does it want it? He doesn't want it and I don't know very picks up on all that stuff, because then you start looking for it and you go how bout you shall melita when you're up, but now you don't wanna, take to hearing what the Bonner was sometimes are like. That does sometimes are great when their thirteen at that Austin in Toronto series after the miracle shot game for the whole team was tight. Did that mean they choked
where that, where they rattle from the game, I don't know, but you could see it, you could see collectively they they were not playing freely, and I think one of the great things about this Denver team they're so tested now with these comebacks. You know that the first team ever to come back three, two thousand one hundred and twenty two series in a row, much less in the play and they just were never scared in point. I wrote them off after game one. Would they got killed them game like an idiot, as was like a alright, you know this is a pretty limit team is two guys they have too many halls. The benches again of enough clippers are gonna, kill him. And they just kind of kept hanging around hanging around waiting for this clippers team footwear take a break, and I want to talk about some of the great collapses in history there. Place a if quarterback completed four hundred and five is passes or point guard had four to five shots, and they just did this over and over again
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Had Wesley more the we watch this week, we broke down a kind of crazy two thousand to movie cod Unfaithful, which really was an excuse for us to talk about I am late an hour. She should have been one of the great action less for years. They have good career, but how some actions is just sometimes they end up on the roof, pimps so listen to that on the watch was well I've easier coming later this week. I not on that one so to we watch it was this week I to this package so more target. We use the word collapse for the plan. The net there's two kinds: you see the sad about teams that the three when they had no serious. That fight that to me, when you talking about leg, really member both collapses, it's gotta, be the team, is either by
her and they blew it or the team. Add the series by the balls and the serious flipped and all of a sudden there stand their girl what the fuck happened. So you go back to the sixties. The sixty AIDS, it Sixers were the first in the blue, three one led to the south x the road and Bill Russell. That was when everybody thought the subjects were dead six years, had been them near before, and then those others come back three one. They went again. Seven sixty nine Lakers that was the West Paler Chamberlain team led the south are run an fee rooms Diana pulling Game six out of their ass and then they will get. Seven away. I think that was a collapse Was it again today and one that was at last second thing, which one is game: six that Sir Leon less yeah same jazz united spurs out under the name Jones James Hearted, that his spear sure MBA Godfather George Urban, who is the James Hearted for James hard, spurs
three one and seventy nine over the bullets and blow the last three games a girl disappears in the last couple minutes again: seven, the eighty one six years had a three one laid over the Celtics South Ex came back one of the great series about time. That's me: wasn't I never felt like I was a collapse. That was just like an incredible series, but I never felt the Sixers choked you watch those games and it's like you know one of the great battles they would that's one of the great series debts I would say, might well which, out of forty years now that there is never get those emerging, I dont know, you'd have to be from failure. Boss. Remember that serious as well as you probably do, but that's what we all tat was one of the first ones me growing up. I was more aware a year after that being a little gad, but that series in going back and people kind of talking
the mythology of that eighty one series is probably the first series I remember at least being aware of basketball and sports, where it was like what happened against Philly in that one. It's just consider one of the all time greats and every game was one point, two dot six watch. It needs to be. Eighty four Lakers really kicked at Celtics Series away the game two at the Henderson, still where the game for had they come back the Mikhail clause on all that stuff and after that serious. You know that that started with the tragic Johns and magic jobs out of a shudder. Eighty seven pistons the idea steals the ball. They blow it. They have the south extent. That series is basically done. It's gone back to Detroit dead, the lid bird says the bath foot. They listen, seven, your guy Barkley and ninety five with the sons. They blew the three when led to the Rockets. My blue annually to the raw Rockets year before so narrow or kills me and ninety five was just as bad so that need or material
the tears around where their folded. When a matter dm two thousand fitting clippers gets the rockets I went to that end. Two thousand sixteen warriors was actually loan that eighty one of the weird harden beginning of some of the anti harden stuff, what he's Amazon? that edged gave a very bad at it, however, said I was there to that. Sixty words against cleave and the brown comes back two thousand nineteen rockets last year, where they blow a series where Durant's out they get the break of breaks it they stole loose and then this clippers and I dont think I missed anything. I think that's what I see you have Oklahoma City when, when Golden state yeah They will do. Would you say that was a joke collapse, or would you say that was courageous pulling their sphincters out? I guess it's a little both well, I would say it was a collapse if it looked different than Westbrook another big spots, which was to say that
it looks bad for the most part. So the reason I bring out these up because there are famous for whatever. Whatever reason we ve never seen a team roll over in a game. Seven like this. It was a roll over. It was a submission it was Not only are we losing, but we were actually give not been you're. Gonna watch us live television as we throw shots against the backward as we give up wide open threes, as we do dumb coaching decisions that were just never going to change. Strategy. That's not working culminating in when Kawaii get Strip, and I think they're up there nuggets or an eighteen would like two minutes left and quiet strip and he just stops and ever the clipper stops and the nuggets have a three oh fast break and none of the cup preserving running back. That's never happen one of these collapse. Serious I'm just telling you we ve never seen a team visibly ruler,
like that, and they should be embarrassed. Ok, I'm not going to say that the play like that is never happen because you neurons are cleared out all that rail corridor paddy without they rolled over, has never as never really happen in one of these situations by China to do the recently thing here, but that was so. It was so here again. I look and I wanted to hear and it sort, but I'm I'm shock look I'm in shock from the very beginning. The Denver came back three one again gates never happen before they did it again, and I said if you're that good, like how did you get down three one, how the how'd you get down sixteen and nineteen and he still kept coming back and I think the Lakers have a little of this. They did it with used in there. They were so disrespectful of who Houston was that they were like what I like Houston. They would let Houston get back in,
but those games you'll, never remember any. The stuff remembers Medworth, but but when you are watching it, it was like holy shit, Rondeau Sit and Thrace. Alright, let's just stop air like I wait a minute like you see just one hundred twenty five by wrongly what the hell are we doing, and I think the clippers very guilty of that is the difference. Is the Lakers like art enough this shit? We're gonna go ahead when this game, when the series in five, but it's probably Of these recent memory, I would say it's one of the more disgusting efforts. I've seen from a basketball team I don't know how you argue against that is it just was. I wasn't sure they talked about been you down. Who they were, what they were gonna accomplish. The confidence. Then the swagger they had which they had rightfully cohesion, the team. But when push comes to shove in game six and game, seven, they completely disappear.
By second ass in in, like a really memorable borderline, historic way, I cannot remember a team completely whirling overnight, second half like that when there are three tuna series to my knowledge- is never happen in an mba series before by a good team. I'm sure it's happened by law the tea back, Orlando, that those type attempts, but not by a team that was favoured to win the title three weeks ago. Come with me, I can't I can't really look. I gotta say three lead first work Korean Leubronn turn into like all world players through strict games it. It was still a position, game. A dreamer, misgave re, my MS game, five games, legs cleaving was amazing and game. Seven was a dogfight, at least they fought the whole gave, though, yet, let's totally different, that's totally D. I'm just thinking cuz, I know, what's going to happen, is you're going to be some game that we're not thinking of because it's just hard to keep track of? I don't know every single game that was as a
wine plays and go. Oh, my god, like this guy, doesn't want anything to do with this. They keep looking like there is one play in particular were I forget who was on the right side, but they were going to set up the action on his side and he just went no, no sort of pointing frantically to start the action on the other side, and the other guy was like this isn't what the play is like going so now, I'm so to cut with no screen to the ball. Cool. Now I have the ball like what the hell am I supposed to do at its. It was weird it was just reared to watch a team completely unravel like that. It wasn't like it was like you. We are awaiting why you think you think they were just waiting for to be quiet. He was just having a bad game and he looked ire tired to me t know: nothing to make excuses for quiet. That else, I'm just saying like coerce built up this play offers me that's almost unassailable and she just looked like two steps, slow think about two weeks ago. We are talking about how he seemed like he was at the peak of his powers. Yeah
If anybody you guys up the dribble today defensively there is. There is some slippage with why in you that's out with some of the defence of assignments there, and there are some other stuff be looked at it, some of the Dallas numbers and that serious you can make the argument that he actually wasn't this great defensive stopper, but I also think Dodge has. To do that to orthodontics of get you even any goes. India like it doesn't matter who the hell. You are just gonna to be bigger and finish over you, but I like quiet I do not have to look again by tat. There were two stretches, the fourth quarter, where he looked like. Ok, fine, like I guess it's up to me, and then he missed every shot to random once he missed We then it's like holy shit. It's like the toughest guy in your group. Getting beat up first as you're running across the field. The fight like the rival, town and you're, like Danny, just get Tell me more now in really bad.
These terrible about in another big elimination, game. Paul George was absolutely terrible and that's why com thirty thirteen thirteen points would have been an improvement from what he did not yet ten and get the ten he got to tell and I was hoping you gonna hit that last three, so it actually would be thirteen. My thirty thirteen theory. But let's look at numbers you're gonna, be out. I was not surprised by the results of this game. I'm surprised the nuggets on by fifteen, but when I'm sure they will Roddy the Nuggets were plus seven and a half the nuggets were plus ninety: to win the game. I was learn by what I watched and game six, I really well However, I was alarm because I thought they were real fundamental issues. It wasn't just like ours, it off game that they they just fell asleep at the switch. It was like. No, they have real match up issues and their coach doesn't seem to realise them, and you know we have to mention the Dac Rivers piece of this. He he's now presided over, I think
or of these then probably any co studies coach in for a lot of years- he's been coach from us two decades, but he's just on the wrong side, history and a lot of these bone. Three two leads three times. Two thousand ten, two thousand twelve to desert fifteen he lost game said at home in o five and nine he lost the game said Do you turn to that seventeen? And then he blew a three one and this serious- and I don't know whether it's an adjustment thing with bad luck, weather had the wrong guys and his team, but but I do wonder, does he survived this who's? The fall guy did Coopers is run this back. Jason donate there's a line here for borders for sixteen to Levin, for three one free: throw attempt for boards to assist in thirty eight minutes. So the wet though the one faith are attend. This is. He should be think about that off season. That's
Harrison, go to get to the basket day. More child moments put yoke edge, avowed trouble. Hearing all those where he's like early Seth, curry with more rebounds. Now I think, Seth actually get to the hoops on attorney was A massive s eyes at very dynamic sector is ethically that's what I thought I was. However, these kind of the basket the dock thing. I don't it happens, and I dont know what happens because look we all know I like doc, I think, is really a coach and he's really coach for stars algorithm. Cognitive too, but you right, resume hasn't dings on it and when your favorite and you lose to this nuggets team after you up three one like sit here until you like no way you're seeing it all wrong, he's alike
was eleven million a year. I was looking through what the extension was. The extension was like a year ago, see you gotta, think he's probably got like two more years. On this day I had an idea trade him he's been trader before he has so that he said De Sixers, NATO coach, just rather for who get a future first form promote? Who I Lou? Ok, but can I ask you a question? Would you like this now You like to see this endeavour to get, but this is Gimme a little like I know I can go to law, but Gimme Gimme a little bit of time to explain this. There's a reason. Why the same time as we are talking just a couple weeks ago about Anthony Davis, in that I and a million years. I would not bet money anything. You gave a sunny somewhere else because I dont think Anthony Alexander a very personality, and I don't think you black
drew out a new Orleans with clutch packing your bags for you and then say to clutch hey. You know what. You say there were to lose the Denver Nuggets and Davis. Isn't it enough shots, he says, get beat up and says you don't. I don't like this when the experiment here, let me see if I wanted to ask you all my own team now. Ok, I don't think any that stuff what happened, but the reason why teams prepare for that and work out clutch clients or do things to always be as if they are like hey. We always have your back to the agency, because that's part of the foreign office job is because the unexpected always happens in this league and the unexpected could be not only the dock part but like one of Paul George goes, I cannot really fulness require looks around. It goes not one of these guys, like Patrick Beverly, against it,
and say that that is not a tough guy is ITALY's place, tough, but what a fool I looked around us and I'm not really feel in this right now. It's allergy hasn't blasted is waiting to other places now again Toronto. We just left because you could leave, but Seein attorney was out of their. What factor is dock in that decision, because today go there because they love the dock, takes care they're guys in Doc absolutely takes care of his stars. That is like Doc, one or one as a coach. So all of these things, I think, are valid points to bring up in how weird could this off season actually get with the clippers after what we just saw, but as my default normally as with this, as they usually just run the shit back considering this was your work. Of this group. Yet is therefore guy or do you fall into the habit of you know what it was our first year together, we're on a bubble, the baron really hard on all of Us Magic City. We await a year for home court advantage in then we didn't have it and we still feel like,
a year to add another piece we want to bring this back with. That said, if Philly Cars and says will give you an bead for Paul George Doc Rivers, what is bomber? Do a therapy like that led the first ever to prayers in a coach trade If this is not even a wee drinkin resource be driven on this progress, and I had a bare- why didn't I don't have a beer ada envied? We should have a beer we're done them in the pot. Thirty eight minutes in cracking why clause calculating and by would it be for Paul Georgia back to take us all Gacek, I'd, say it
a woman with a rumour meals at all the different stuff gonna, I still think and beaten Simmonds get a chance next year with everybody. There, but I don't know that similar Zena Krajina tears about it now and I'll George is as bad as he was nice. If he's a free agent, the series of MAX Player yesterday he's a max player again yesterday, but that's why I get so frustrated argued about some of these. As I think, people's gonna give up. As I go look at it, I don't just randomly watch a player one day and say hey that guy stinks it's usually after a few years at these elimination. Gazer George elimination, Acer Harden but at the same time, like with quite bad as he was, I'm not gonna sit this ok all right. So I've got I've got the broad to go to get a knocking down. A few pegs are right now, top three players League are Leubronn Butler Tyler Hero and then I now have quite forth here but sent, but something did imports something important. It happens rather call I lost its title.
He didn't loses MBA title. He lost the title as if you could have a play. Our guy for one serious who would be in mine was quiet until tonight. So now is Lebaron again return arrow. It may be Tyler Hara. You saw him again today. The guys just see he's cut scab Buffalo bars. Where he's he's upset, like he told a couple bodies on a text strategic. I keep leaving to get one envy people could tell her she's second team, all rookie fuck this up, it hits the beggars. Hearing right is the South Ex are about to finish by team. For that I've been eighty who say nobody, think that quite the cool I run, which was really the best thing that Cooper sad going for them. The shares that, while we have quite a series, became quite the guy well, he lost so I'm wondering if it could be ok, judge Yoke. It could grab the title here, Yoke which they play.
I went back or one play off game come on it's leubronn! Now! That's not why? After no, I don't. I don't like doing this game to gauge. That's! No! No! No! No it's vacant right now, it's vacant vega, titles. Whoever comes out of it this year has the title for labelling David, please Lakers really! Well, they were they put him four times a year. They like they were Lakers one three, the for games, but the nuggets killed them once to that one game was o t one of almost like a one point game. He watched it. It was like both themes. Conrad trouble stop in the the other think they're supporting cast is better and the yoke of thing. Like our great. You have to play Dwight Heritage Avail, Magee, more awesome yoke is getting torch, US guys. And then the Jabbar Murray thing like who who's gonna Gorge bomber in the Lakers, we'll figure it out.
You're that part of it who do you, trust whose their best offensive guard Paul. Probably so I think, there's some awesome, Caruso numbers but have posted in threes you're gonna go with Pope was getting some of that The summit there was this brings me to my majesty of that collect question right. This just fell so perfectly for the. I think we said this. The last time we talked about this stuff like gets, that gets the beaten up port them. Seen in ran one I've waited away tomato. Everybody was saying this is bullshit, they get the one seat in Portland back and how it that is aimed at a very young age about that what anybody was saying, but I dont began will now that we know what happened to me like. That was a good time to catch him. Second round they get Houston Westbrook. I am actually in the camp like it swung too far with people against Westbrook, because recently he had covered. We
David and he was hurt and he came back and I don't think he was even eighty percent and it he, I just don't think he's as terrible as he was that liquor stores like he was terrible he's flat out terrible. I don't think it's that bad of a but but regardless I didn't you arable and the gaily had thirty year. Thirty, therefore- and I was like this- is so bad. I sounds like a Darrow Morey text, you here's a questionable without that you're you're, a scholar, though that was not avoid tax, but they had that Daniel House thing to and now they're gonna play Prs around three now dug its like this. I'm just saying like this is great for the Lakers still acres. What has signed up for this, the Lakers you're gonna, be Houston. Remember what I do know how support Where are the rotation, because it basically just the limit of twenty to thirty minutes out of that, but I don't like the Pga Tucker stop towards the end, and I love PDA Tucker, but he's looking around Goin are you? Are you fucking kidding me? They rise ox. Ok, this sucks. I have a point and I'm on it
He was a scholar of the game. Yet has anyone ever lost in the playoffs healthy? Who gets nobody? the rule is if you're, the Marquis guy we just hereby, You're hurt like a day or two later, a maid, would be like an hour later. Just gonna go was a k, a guy's got us would imply that work, and there is la gazing. Where you does the Erika Mann sprained Abkhazia. There is nothing that came out after that serves no injury, stuff. There's a there's an example: a man, a soothing knows about your honor for weak. The rough ending for them
Wait. I have one more coopers thing for you and your right by the way about Toronto. Yet nothing nothing came of it. Do you know this was the fiftieth Cooper season yeah. I do arose, gentlemen dating back to the Braves and they showed that graphic and it's amazing, where they're, like France, franchises the most years that make the conference fires as clippers forty nine years Charlotte thirty years, the nets, yes, a ten years amazing. This sets them. If we are now a high, that's Andrews finals, it's not even winning a title. It's you can't get to like two steps. Remove from winning the whole thing you can't get out of the second round for fifty years, that's impossible! You know the Celtics have been in nine conference final since
two thousand and two I know idea, and I don't even feel it if you would have been a band member that unbelievable twenty or celtic run. But my point is it's not like that hard to make conference finals it's a little hard, but it's like Portland made it last year, so that have it happen once in fifty years. Zinncredible. But my point is that it's not like it's not like impossible to make the conference finals for them. Never to do it, but then you think of all the great players that they've had or the great draft picks they've had either they had just this decade. Chris Paul they had Blake Griffin. They collide letter did Paul George surrounding, like I know, a few coopers fans, and
it was already a little weird cuz. It was like wow the one year. We have a real chance to win the title and none of the games are going to be here and there on a fucking bubble in Orlando. But still this is great. We have a chance, but it's a little weird, but now it's like okay, we're halfway through Kawayan Paul George, before they can opt out in the summer two thousand and twenty one now we're talkin given away. She go just Alexander. We gave a gown air is expiring and we gave away a hundred and thirty first round pacts, it's all in next year. Now it's two thousand twenty one or bus in one in one or both. These deeds could look at each other, but I got wanna play with you anymore: either and they're both gone and there's nothing left this giant arena their building, an NGO. It is it's fucking disaster we both know any foreign office would do it all over again tomorrow to get those two guys, but
I mean I really do think you have to win again. I know I know that George would be MAX immediately, but I wonder if any teams ever actually have these conversations you go. If we could max George, would we not? Would we not have to the eighth game where you're like what the hell are you doing out there? Any answer would still be that you were probably max him, but I think it's all valid, because it was that bad. It's not just disappointing. It's like horrify, Will you go wall like one have with what just happened to us? What the other thing now is amazing about it was these guys we thought like Paul Georgian quite together. This is gonna, be humbly about this, a bead we wouldn't have seen their since people enjoy and we're together as perimeter defenders, these good luck that everybody's can be ridiculous. I just don't think Paul Georgia's defense. Was that good say? but he had moments against Marie, where he was incredible and he was locked in it was not tonight. Now, I'm guessing. He consistently wasn't at the
while he was a year ago I was watching, I thought Tatum. Jane at Miami game. Even though Tatum fell apart offensively in the last five minutes and overtime. I thought that was the best game I've ever seen and played defensively. Even that Butler three point play when Butler just screwed up- and I thought they'd have played really good day- was arguable falkoff. He was just his hands were all over the place. His switches were perfect. He had he had either a couple steals or or where he forced to steal, because he was in the right spots and just was indominus, play player for the first forty three minutes of that game for his offense went away and George had moments like that last year, in Oklahoma City, the first four months for her to show there he was a dominant to a player was like wow. This guy is one of the best buy portage the week. We didn't see that this year I know he had flashes but they're always just flashes a little weird, slow start, and that was off of that horrible
goes to the pleasure is two years ago with ok, see, and then he had light. I remember watching on the first week, ok see games because I was, I was always watching him cause. I was like. Am I wrong about these guys? Gonna click and he had come I mean, I don't know it's a game. Log says now because in the moment was game log, as always, is always a little dangerous, but I remembered scorned guy, what the hell and then he goes on its territory and are being like any VP type player You mentioned the jailer way how the EU will be watching the game and you for he's out there for four minutes. I love jailing but jail, and today yet, but no one's no one's talking about building a team around James Brown, then maybe we should we talk about podgy there with where it and take a. Can I have one more thing to do on this? this everybody says- is that an eye Brian Rico play byplay broadcaster. For yes, Viana do yes network and we're both bald, but only one of us has one so young a war
and only one of us. So the people hey thanks man. I appreciate that what we, both our co host of what we feel is just the greatest part out there are to see two now part of the Ringer part gas network, see what people get when they come to our to see two marriages. Conversation services, as talking- and this is something that you know- we started a word to be organic and you know we bring our friends on and have have Gregg oversight. Yet whether tyrant, Judge Megan repeal of Super camphor Walker MAC shares earth. New episode drop every Thursday, so follow to see two on Spotify took upon George really quickly. Is it conceivable that that they actually do think about moving him? Because we know, there's no loyalty either way these days right, the prayers have learned. The teams that's been established last five years. They shouldn't in the teams have never had the attitude that the play.
In its eye. Hey we're build this whole thing, but maybe maybe they maybe if they make a move baby, is that the media, some rapid fire? What would you do Paul George for Harden right now, if you're, the clippers area having you still would be destroyed its? Where that would you do Paul, George for Bradley Beale, washing do that cuz. Georgia is your left on his deal. That's a problem because of your left in the deal, but that might be why the clippers aren't looking for Fitzsimmons. I think Billy's going to do that. I think Billy's afraid if they're going to split that up. I think I'd be more afraid of him, beads long term thing and they don't want to end up trading Simmons and then keeping a bead and if it bead its track record of of staying he's actually been healthier than I think I would have ever imagined and maybe doesn't get enough credit cuz. He has the the dings hearing,
but I dont think its obsessing to suggest that everybody should be worried about him. Beads bodies gonna hold up because you need to be getting thinner as he gets older Chinese do the Duncan thing, and even though we so young and Duncan got thin alot later in his career. Yet I just would like to see a and b clothes some of these games, where it looks like he's a little bit more shape it until you see that from him other we get to hear about it all the time and it never actually happens. I would think Philly would be you. Don't what do you agree? I mean when you agree. The Phillies are probably a little bit more scared like a retreat at Simmons for somebody, and we haven't beaten them two years from now. It's not any different health wise like. What's what do we have I'm on the record, I would naturally summits, then I think over again? We learn that such has been so long centuries. Web watch play Afghans. I judge all my dad's by
Who's gonna be there in light that fried in a game seven years, their markets, smart goddamn, is frustrating. He takes even today there up ten early in the first quarter, six shots and then he literally, as forestry possessions are already makes just the worst possible decision. You're, like God, he's so fresh him, but I fuckin love that guy, I rider to mark a smart, In a game, seven guess I wanted my team, Marcus, went, guess who's not rolling over and that Coopers dug its game today. Marcus work. Guess vagary, wouldn't have lost, guess who wouldn't have been on a team that lost by fifteen in a game? Seven when they are favoured by said, puts Birgus part AEGIS. He would have gotten kicked out before he witnessed it totally agree, and I have not been the biggest marked a sky over the years, especially news taking shots. You shoot likened the twenties from three, but now the shooting from three is definitely passable, there's still office of decisions where I go come on man,
It's like how this early in the shot clock in your in your next to Tatum and Jaylen and Kemba. He even had an iso where you got Bam, one hundred and one and took a to overcome difficulties. I did you see jail and go up like jailing was going, up like artisan arable, initiating remedies yet at the room and it goes into jail rather well. Marcus, smart, the play he made in the corner on the indeed pass, where he was going up as a quarter and he jumps Alec Defensive Back Jellia into the flat like Marcus, Barchester stuff, that's different in it. I've I've struggle in the flopping with him drive me crazy. I just don't like it, no matter what you know who I am ruin for. I just hate it because it's in the game but you're right, but I dont think well, think he's gonna get. Would you trademark a smart for Paul George LAB it Bacchus a tradable from agreeing I'd like to know from you know, Marcus is going to retire, as the Celtic and he's gonna take set backs was jabbered Maxwell retires and he's gonna, be in
Life for the rest of my life until I diet and am signing up for it now. Sixteen yourselves the career, a meeting becomes either the radio Gaia the tv guy and then another forty years. Is that that's Haiti's debt relief in Boston? What can I opened? A bar called smarts and everybody called its mats spur smacks. I think that would work. Can I just read you all of the Denver dug its plan. Pilots the history of mankind, so two thousand nine there to two against the Lakers in the western fires than the Lakers when the last. If that was great, are you done? Nineteen eighty five made the western finals got killed by the Lakers nineteenth? Seventy eight! Now people have a lot of eighteen. Seventy eight basketball conversations took took see out of the six.
Anna in Seattle, beat him in the seventy eight western find us. And then in the end, the last ABA finals ever they lost Doktor J and the nets nineteen says idea diesel squad- and those are all your great Denver Nuggets play off, highlights they ve never made the NBA finals. Seventy eight was really fine? What if year for the weak cassettes writers, are heading into the cocaine era and tape delays in but really turning on the league, and they came very close to having David Tom Servers, Doktor, J and in eighteen. Seventy five us an Philly ended up fallen apart washed and makes it, and then this is to Seattle. We identify answer now. That's the Seattle!
Seattle bullets to stray years really heard the lake as those were not like. You know, there's no stars to leg market, but if you had a Thompson unnerving anyway, STAR Cross franchise in this is about the best it slipped mean. If you were doing I'm starting a franchise with that that that who do you pack, the yoke is no lower than third or fourth at this by right stock, it learn as yoke. It might be the third pic. I know you do Sometimes, no don't give me that you do this you, I am jet Yo Yo catches, the third best player in a league and you're, not our team of them. I didn't say third best buy the league. I'm saying I am starting my franchise and I could have anybody who my taking you to regular Tatum right now I think it's the debate. I don't know who I don't know what the answers, but I think those are probably the next who picks I've tried what you, after
go yadda us and I think it's Tatum are yoke edge for that three spot mediocre chiseling twenty four years old. It feels like he's order that, but he's not data is two years old and Tatum. If a tomb was nineteen Murray, his twenty two years old, in its final recipients, young, I don't we always talk about. I am and when you know the Rio Murray was a young like qualifiers. He was a young Kentucky right. So what's ECHO Kobe was a rookie when he was seventeen, but we always talk about like these destinations for different. The agents and nobody ever mentions Denver and meanwhile, that's probably the best situation right, not only to get the planet annual contender, but you play with the team where the ball actually moves the guys like each other. You can play with a guy who actually makes you better. I want more popular shed for you about George for poison gas.
For, as I presented is a no just because these is too big and two may leg, injuries. Is that a hard, though you had a hard no the other day and it became a headline in an aggregated I was actually that one of the few times you get aggregated work ya, get somethin set to be you Send me some article and I go on now what now what happened this week and that one was like. Oh yeah, that's exactly what I said and that's accurate was a hard hard. It's a poor thing. This is just a hard, though, for you and I, like Brazil, buddies he's a leg problem. So I'll let you know May I get a beer if we ever get like kind, o Connor one of these beer companies to sponsor appear for us. I think her No longer would be a good work hard to. We have a saying they like Brazil, us hard? No, the week where I thought of trade? Are you and you just sit here? They data hard doubt that that's a son!
that's a fly wanted and which I shall take. I wouldn't know what to say to you: would trade for Paul George? I think I'm more fascinated by this is noted. Tatum. Would you trade jail and Brown for Paul George? I dont want powder by life that way What about Robert Williams had that all three of our picks. And ran away, and I don't need you hate. The picks. Would you Romeo Lange for for Paul George. I say this, I like Heaven the pics issue, because I was a kid I care sees mock draft about it now seems like everybody's. Just all over the back of this draft that Stamford kid I like Casey, hadn't, like only twenty third Terry I, like I made on that kid. Yeah in my view, however, was tense. School really likes, stamper kid, the sky,
really liked him anymore. You wash maybe some stuff curry stuff. I mean it's come ridiculous when you do that, but he was a young. Kid was taken, big shots for that team, so they mega I quickly and that before we move on from quits targets, like alone fired by the kings job. Just pull I have to back to back three one upset victories. It was a weird firing when it happened, but I just like the fact that he's dead, end even make the playoffs and somehow were losers in multiple way, is right. The look. A trade is the most iconic fuck up non pack of the decade either they M Bobby make it a documentary about headed LUCA, go to three and not even go to the team that actually had the third peck that'll. Be a documentary and they ten years and then. Malone who's, the one good coach they probably had in the last fifteen years. They got read him. I think they had three coaches sense.
Now we had, I know I do I'm and I'm gonna get you here right now to be totally transparent. I was very anti MIKE Malone for a long time and had nothing to do with him. It had everything Do it every person that wrote for years that Boogie Boogie cousins career would have been different if it weren't for the fact that MIKE Malone were let go, and I would be like you think so, really didn't cousins would have just been a super team guide, locked in and boxed out and then all the stuff that you kind of need to do. If you have a winning team, you just think cuz everybody kept writing this excuse article everybody's exaggeration. But there are many people, multiple people, that we know the cap writing about. Well, he was because he felt so betrayed so I ended up like going. Might Malone Polygamy break here on this one and it wasn't feared him, but whatever he did whatever his deal is with a young group to get
to keep buying in, in his whole one game, all the cliches stuff that I don't like to give too much credit. As all of us know, what were you supposed to say? I can be the coach of an NBA team down three one and I would all my interviews we kicked ass. I would know exactly what to say, but he got these guys to believe it. He got these guys to believe it when they're down seven at the start of the third quarter and
You know, I think you're for anybody say quite tired from Almeria, splendid, twenty minutes out there too, you know and then yoke it. She was ready to throw back out there, and then they had this nice. One of the fourth quarter reopens is on the bench, showed his face off and then he throws a back in their later. So I think there are little predictable that two main stuff when it doesn't look right, but then it looks amazingly unsuitable and worries not mislead shots, and then tonight, once they look in Denver, can ever have the consistent guy that that plays offer that two may and gain the stock and out of shots. There are completely different team so as much as we're gonna get on docks case for having a team collapse like this, getting a team to believe. That's pretty young separately done anything in the plans that probably should have been in the west or conference finals. Last year, I'm kind of support still ass, the portly game. A year ago. I just that was well received, Canna stuck with me a little bit when like how they who they lose their came, and they did neither young, but what I can say that on a fair now right, I think of Harris played the whole. U tat series which ended
and Harris had a really bad regular season, and I think he's been really good India in the play of public. He played although it was very good right away It is really get in this area by thirty seven minutes tonight, a couple threes he would they were plus twenty one when you play, but his defence, I was there, a lovely, really Miss Abigail Ceuta, and once you know, if you do that, tat. There is again where he can guard Mitchell a little more often I that was. They never. I do feel like they kind of in all in on and the serious because they had all these different do than was sometimes a scowl play. Sometimes the scoured play- and you know, Porter played fifteen minutes tonight which I think was smart yeah party went on. I think part of this at all yeah. They went with play off guys mill, sap, wait. Thirty two he's that either he certainly that all STAR Atlanta, Pablo Sap but knows where to go, knows what to do his tough he's
can a back down and they basically wrote him and grant yoke it's very Harris and then I got a little but I was little more than a minute I always like Morris's minutes, but the other poor. That's a good colleagues. We hadn't really mentioned him at all, because he is the huge three earlier the series before the turnaround as well as he it after you catch and all that shit. Unless
I mean Blake Porters, not a popular guy, although I did think was interesting. The young guy complaining about work was supported more, but he he too, he had sat shy and he hits tat shot. And here I was kind of funny German. It's all just results base, because they, who are you to do that you should do a publicly but yet poor, it's a shot. Your Reggie Miller's like good for him, so he thinking this is awesome at the back it up a little bit, even though he said something edition of said and then for him. There not be a big part of this, though, was surprised as you're thinking. If deference gonna win a game, seven, some third guy has to go off. I think that's the thing with Danbridge thing, with a look at what the Lakers Lakers rubbing to stick to a lot of the same rules: hey grant, you gonna beat us first, our Gary hairs, we're gonna beat you gonna beat us first. Why but think Anthony Davis is a completely different deal than zoo botch, and
a girl closing defensively against Yoke, it's probably not ask any Davis adjacent around from the Tipp all the way through, but I really shocked if Davis is not closing on your courage, they make cancel each other out and then it gets into the problem, for the nuggets is the brain is so consistent, which is crazy. The de many years has been the league but fear that seven gamesters at them he's gonna, be there in a big way, and probably four or five of those I'm saying with Mary, it's maybe two maybe three were going on. You know people who talk enough about neuron steadiness but hey. Look around you accidentally la broad had some shooting gazing at Houston series. We know that first half reelect twenty something was hitting every. He was doing that the or use like not just he checked, but he was like what can I can I get to go into night, yet I like this twenty nine outer? How should I can I meet somebody, go to left side and try to now. So I dont think that gets
lost a little bit. Did you see that the grip of other times the brand blacked Westbrook repeated here for like crazy videogame packs and Westbrook? He clearly just kind of whispered, bothers ethic. I began when you're Westbrook, when the VP, the brine, probably just kind of tucked away in his things, to get pissed off about file and was really kind of taken it to Westbrook where they had that moment with Rondeau there go back and forth and West Reject, voted on double, better bother down twenty nine in innocent Quinci game, he's talking shit and the branches laughing at him. There's a bears that there was a tough
there's four Westbrook by the way. The other part of that that series is that Rondeau turned into like Clay Thomson and you gonna greatly. If you're the rocket you're gonna die. This is hard enough, and now you played a silver games. Now you figured out there, we don't really do a ton UK rail, it's easier for you guys to figure this out. I still think Oklahoma City must go back and look at the taper those games ago. Why did we not attack the perimeter guys more like what the hell are we doing why we are? We get stuck Alla time offensively and then, when you saw abroad, LU, LU, bronze, definite correspond, certainly shake guilders Alexander, but Rondeau just killing you from three. If you're the other staff, you just go out so like what are we outline three games sucks Depart Georgia make a great racket and how we can make that happen. The sailors can work. I could see Paul George getting traded to the Rockets and then he and hard near the intro guaranteeing a title. I'm proud of us. For one thing we talked in the bubble about we weren't, our home court was gonna matter, and we felt like with this
their day stuff might advantage. The young teams is even to see when they showed showed Miami was a five seed and Celtics were three seed, and that was the first time the top two seats had it made the eastern final since, like what ninety ninety nine or maybe even authority, for eighty four whenever wherever I do think it just weirded toothache Twelve is: where did I weird outcomes? Ok see made the fires. We expect that to happen, Boston and Philly played in a round to you know we did. We didn't expect to see fully in the final eight, and I think that the the possibility we have to consider it of a Denver Miami HEAT finals it it has to be considered an adult that just does Miami is better team the Boston are of that means they're gonna wind, but there they were better, went through nine.
Is really worried about this series hour and talked about it and second, I could not believe Boston was favored. I was done talked to Sal about on Sunday night. He thought I was reversing say I was not, but you know Denver could absolutely beat the Lakers. I don't know if I'll bet it, but it wouldn't that be the perfect outcome in the bubble is a Denver nuggets. Miami heat play of serious fourth rounder somebody right up now, because I was gonna, ask you some point blank. How weird is that gonna be how where's that kind of feeling you can take more credit cause? You should give me really any credit, but this is something that I I've just got in circles on the entire time were leading up to the bubbles. Okay, we can expect all these we're different things and we're we're outcomes. Ok, maybe, but we could still have Lakers. We didn't get me. Walkie. But even though Milwaukee at this incredible point, differential won, t work and are often the walking loving teams a boss, as it will look, Boston hesitantly played together a ton, but I think Boston defensively when you look at
what they did today against by me and then what they did against IRAN. Oh, I think they have a defensive geared really really special, but if they were gonna have to play against Anthony Davis and finally, like I'm sorry, I'm just not picking the Celtics against Anthony Davis and is not going to because I've seen what a really good big can do against ashore front line, and so I cod is still the further like. Why would the bubble all of a sudden have outcomes? Were lesser teams were all of a sudden better and better teams were lesser versions in themselves, but I think it speaks bore the individual teams where you and I for years now had this thing about Milwaukee, where we go, what are they really is a play off team? The other thing you and I have talked about after two years- is the difference between regular season and policies in basketball. If you're a three point, barrage machine- and you think that just gonna completely me
could sell for the Plavsic seem outcome. I think we're learning more and more with this new version of ass well ass for years that that's not really guarantee is actually more unlikely that you just gotta, be able duplicate years. Success with that kind of style we display five out in and take a million three. Secondly, how many more times we have to see their sorted disappointing, so is it the bubble or is it that an unproven, Milwaukee came up short again? Is it the boys helpers right now for thirty, five from three right leg is: is the bubble the reason yet greater coopers outta had home core, but you know Denver promised even the series it to two because they would have been playing up in Denver and if it's the bubble than than wire the Lakers is rolling through everybody right so I dont know that we have the answer. But if it's Denver Miami, it's only going to be because of the bubble it'll only book in which unfair towards their names. But that's the way will be played up. Is that our this really
we're deal. That's the only reason we got it when it's like what women there was no golden state. Ok, there was no Chicago bulls. There wasn't even a Lakers with cobia Celtics, those three or run. There is nothing that was established enough this year as a group that scared, us off that we may have had a very unlikely outcome in a normal circumstance. Every year, as some sort of weird variable this year is the bubble and sometimes figured it out, sometimes did it and the teams that I think more work is a team that really could have used a crowd, and that was why, you play the whole season. I think it would have helped them. I dont think if I don't have, it would have been enough, because I really do think Miami was just a worst case scenario team for them to play, and I think we would have had the same So maybe my anyone's insects and they get an awesome, crowded game six whatever. But it definitely you know,
an ideal for Miami. I think same thing with Denver in this lake or series, if they're playing the Lakers in the western fires. Games three and four in Denver light. That's it's hard to play. Endeavoured teams have trouble there. They have great home record about her, whose other team, so the bubbles, even some of that stuff out. But what I like is it's it's it strips out. All the shit and a lot of these games have just come down to who has more people. Are gonna show up for a big moment? You know that Toronto is a great example throughout. I had so much respect for that same then, even play that well Larry Lowry was the only guy who really Shotwell out of their best? Three Beverly was under forty percent for the series like the was a disaster,
where did he was so mentally tough? They just would not go away their fuckin mecca back. Is it that we saw their head off to get rid of them? We should do a when it's all said and done, or maybe you up into finals. If you have an off their. However, the schedule, for example, we should you like a reassessment list of who were the five seven players it we may have to reassess after these plants, but then the excuse will always be the bulwark about with bubble but passed Us Yahkuk is one of the first guys I can think of because he was so bad in that celtic series and I haven't heard of ease her or not yet. But his story is incredible when you watch your college eyes kind of his big athletic guy, but as he super quick twitchy and it's a little robotic and but then
stories unbelievably gets the money. He was on a tears beginning this year. When you watch him, you can see that he is if he doesn't already know where his feet or going ahead of time. A lot of that stuff isn't natural, and once you figure that out with him as a defender, he'll turn into the wrong side of the defensive when he would go to post whatever. Whatever, like the end of his his combination of moves these drawing at you, he would actually turn into the worst option you don't like unless it were boom boom to trouble. Ok, I'm bigger and more athletic, aiming to finish the sea outcome. Part of that sick. I end of it series going. You know for all that stuff about Toronto and credit rating of credit like wake the fuck up you lost, maybe the best player in the world is not complicated. It's not personal, don't take it personally, you lost Kawhi Leonard, that's what we're off you and by the way, everybody was wrong, including me about what they would be this year, but when it was all send done, they lose and seventy Boston they were is good as Boston. I go. I think they got the writer
respect for the people. The matter gave him the right amount of respect. Certainly for May SEC around Boston wasn't a huge shocked because they were struggling in the games and then you'd look up and be like it's a four point game again like hell you they were Michael Myers, riotous, Yale thing Jail, embrowned, just about semi figured him out yeah and then it was like the whole team and then there are started this guy's ever really reach other inks yeah and then, when he couldn't get three c within in his own head, and that was it, but you know I think it's weird. I think it's weird for these guys and I get it. They ve been there for over two months now there, in two guys their play against the elevators and on campus and all these things in its different vibe and people handle that differently and further the the guys who the younger guys I take in jail in brown
what kind of guys like you could see like Tatum like loves this Tatum today, I'm telling her that those first three and a half quarters that was that was some of the best basketball of ever seen him play and he was really carrying himself like I'm ready to take over the and then I think, are all the energy who is exerting, on the other end and chasing all their dudes and all the sudden, all the shots for short lost his confidence and that's why he's not there yet, but he's going to get there? I really did think he has a chance to be like really truly a special forward. You know I didn't you think, like the great forward to the last like that are not twenty five years like the rent had a point, and I don't know if he's going to be as good as Durant got to, I think the rant, as you know, I think he's one of the fifty best parties ever return. The weather greatest and suppliers ever, but the rate hit that point like two thousand eleven twelve you may my made regarding the rabbit it started with the Turkey world championships. When, here that, oh
so this is actually really going to happen now and then a kind and then there is baby steps and it took us to does twelve and you can see the envy coming and it feels like that's happening for Tatum in these playoffs. Second, we told me tat. I was gonna, win them Vp Sunday, a beggar could see it he's hitting all the checkmark she would hit. If that's gonna be the logical assent to wear this ends up like he said, every checkpoints offer is my point. Do you want to do this game now because I feel like we have to do a fool. I don't know what order you want to go in yet, what's let's do that? A second bub, forty that guy's foot long season is at subway. They make it easy to make a good cop on food. So here's a segment we're in a cop, bad cop, good call reseller will look at some of the good and bad plays. Let's go from tonight. Gimme give me an exam,
call of a bad call in one of the two games at referee call a bad call by a team or player that we saw tonight so not refs. I didn't have no offense to close regulation and overtime. It was you know as much as we're going to give love to the big picture of Tatum. I was incredibly frustrated that they looked like the 12c to can't believe they're about to knock off the five seed in the NCAA tournament, and then he just freaked out take terrible shots to close the game and then lose great great example. I'd call the clock toil. I said that Celtics red leather bag car we call- and I we watch football and Sunday with my and we got wasted. We had we got. We got way
from a place, I guess we get and wings kind of move closer, but we should have gone subway Billina getting wings and I got the spicy hot wings and I was feeling if the next twenty four hours now exactly my greatest decision this week, I'll we're to make a good car instead, like a sweet, onion chicken, Teriyaki sandwich yeah that another gotta get a free foot. Long when you buy to up to spend subway restaurant, so its banks, because this week order and pay contact free in the subway out for quick and easy pick up a delivery and game there. Any dates. Foot long season in subway eat fresh freshly prepared in front of you, but does your subway originated to take his erases takes hot, takes a whole fresh again subway, Frederick Hotlines, Sif Subway Fresh, take hotline yeah, they re the oh Jesus to take one of the great at campaigns. The clock toad often said this Ex ran. This has had on them a couple times in the play ass. It had no eight of happening. You and I start yelling at the tv because
the whole reason they're beating Miami in Game one and they should have won this game and it's probably going to come back to haunt them. Let's be honest: there playing with pace he's in there athletes their pushed in the bow and they and they're not going slow its that turning into a slow half court game and then all of a sudden there forty feet from the basket, with eight seconds left on the shock clock just kind of dribbling. In this way it wasn't just the last minute. This is probably eight or nine plays, and regulation o t words just like they're killing clock like like they have like an eight point, lead their running like the four quarters- and I thought it was just bizarre, Carson again yeah. There is one Campbell one in particular: were he just dribbled it the whole time and then you're like look? Even if you get the angle, the help guys gonna be bigger than you and at that point, with the help with how long you took to drive Yeah there's somebody what's happened right, yeah! That's that's! Why can't stand with some of these clocks is where you go or I find I get that
I don't even talk about like the last second, but I want to leave anything left on the clock you're talking to either still one hundred and forty left in your upper possession, and the whole reason you liked. Celtics team, is it good for guys can make a basket and then, when you decide hey, I want you three guys to watch and I think it happened more, probably going back fifteen years I don't know I mean I could keep track of blessing, imposing point cars but felt like that was every defences like first Movement or they blitz. They bring the big they keep it with the point garden. That's what teams are always scared off a small point. Our just still teams are scared off of it and I'll see times. Were you blitz, Campbell, niece good enough to get around you and turned the corner and now you're talking about foreign, three or maybe even five on three. If you still has the ball and there's a couple times, they swung it. They made some good decisions but for as much I love Tatum. He hadn't going on in the Toronto thing a little bit in the final numbers, a great. Maybe it's because we have such high expectations rotated because everything you said about who we could possibly be I'm with you, I dont have a ceiling for him.
And it's it's so kind of media now in some of the passing is making in the defensive assignments, were light. Brad actually likes him better than anybody else there defensively when he has jail in markets, is DE guarded butler on the big on the big play. The game at that smart was gonna Garda many pick later, but it I can't help but think the Celtics one the aim that you don't gotta, go right away. My aim is the better basketball team of the too polite to just let yourselves take yourself out of your office like that and not even asked Miami to defend anything. That's that's not what I expect from Brad Stevenson, Celtics and Tatum did a too many times to close this guy. We'll talk about, came in a second, the difference between the recent Miami one, this game in Boston Laws comes down to place for me, Tatum in a regulation play for the last shot, and if it was almost, you could hear it. It was I who is. She
knowing Kogi is very cold. I think the arable Cobby here about possession that are either it goes in once, but they never show the u to prep of the twenty times when it didn't go in and that budgets A terrible stepped back he do was going on when he shouted cause he's running for the rebound, and it's just like dude, you you're an incredible athlete. You can get to the basket. Any time you want to get to the basket. Try to draw get some contact get in the air? Maybe we get often rebound whatever go to the basket. We going to overtime, butler, same situation, right he's, Victor down, one takes paid him off. The dribble goes into him and he's just like your I'm getting a foul and I'm getting. The ball is going to hit the rim, and I might get a three point play, but I'm deciding this myself, I'm not doing some garbage that back thing. That wouldn't Tatum does it's garbage it's just like
I just want by guys go into the basket so when he got blocked at the end by Bam, which was incredible black olive groves. Why did we ever body of all tat? I love it out, defend that a hundred times out of a hundred with Tatum. We should have done it. I don't know. Could he have China do a finger or try to get on how things you can get on Tatum for its not getting rejected by ban, not saying No, I'm I'm! You could say that. Could you try to bang family radio contact? I don't know who cares you try to throw out, there made one of the greatest defensive place. I've ever seen a laugh, so ok, there's its I been lodged in the south expert, I've never seen. Anybody black that Tatum Dunk have you said happened before he'd want everybody almost got Leubronn, oh no, he D get Leubronn and eighty memory got out on an eighteen and labelling at the laugh about it as they want to game. Seven. So did really matter so yeah. I don't I don't know I mean that ban play. I don't feel like it has recently by us to say it's one of the most of it,
blocks have ever seen in a vast globally with everyone. How long will you have to your arms behind you as somebody out Hama hawking it, like the odds, are, I think, more likely. You separate shoulder Katyusha shoulders, getting cold backwards at your body, but I'm out, he bible any withdrawal, the drivel into traffic to one eighty turnarounds worried awful one leg, you like what are you doing? Tatum? Are you trying to make this even harder and by the way you write the butler Drive, because he had hit that three before when you probably at that point that this its work in a win. The game and butler been pretty quieting. Twelve point go into the fourth core. He hits that three in the corner in your life. Here we go no Jimmy time, because really the scary part for the Celtics long term in this is that even though we both agree, Miami's, better Hugo okay, but they don't have the big as great as being as they don't have to beg to explode, have a good day. Was it the soles of bad big? And that's why I think Nick nurse struggled with how many Gasol minutes he want to play a more cuz. He was big because, even though Ibaka was the better player he's like now, I'm playing
The Boston thing by being small with them, I'm not only their front line shipping tobacco mother well, yeah. I would agree with that, but I think I can understand what trying to do and where my emmi you'll go away and they can release both that part of it. But when, when Butler hit, that insane and one lay up, there's also apply to the side, were dragon dragon in dumb J crowded argue about whose both set the screen and Butler Justice fuck it I'm goin back. If you look at that, play butlers, like whatever you guys, like the other way done, and that's what I think, every they fear and watches. And MRS it's like you know what a butler we ve done it before. We don't need to do it all again. What's a standing has reached update these things by the minute blight.
To know that you have somebody after we just watch a clippers team, were it look like every single guy was afraid for twelve minutes Jimmy's, just at least never going to be afraid. Even if he's not one of the top overall guys every single year- and it was a little bit of like tatum- is the best player in the series- Tatum seem to be the best player in a series. This is gonna, be awesome, that's not the way. A closed is tailor made. A million mistake said Jimmy made two huge blocks and its even worse than that you I'm guide you compared the covers them. The heat have so many bad motherfuckers. Then this is Bam. Worrier drugget, not afraid of anybody. J crowd, her jacket had its his first sub machine gun it in nine years old cracked, crowded around you know, maybe could could dip into the market Morrison this cup again tonight but I think, is more the guy that we saw today where you want about their crunch time. He's gonna fight it he's gonna make plays
and then he cried. I always get the tough as assignment to crowded the Goodyear. He was the one guarding yon us not ban and he's in the crowd has been a big game site. They made the two thousand teen eastern fine. As a year we got concussed budget than hero is the least of all. Of anybody in the league of aid at the fucker was that he has been that three he took near the under regulation was like it wasn't. Even a play was just like he was open for a split second say: fuck it and it was- huge three. If you get you to buy what it was like a mark, a smart, terrible free, but it went in and I don't understand just has a lot of swagger to it. I think it would be really hard thing to beat. I felt that way before the series. I think the fact that the Celtics over and over again in these games. They keep their up ten they're up, twelve just Miami, but the whole playoffs there at one thousand, five hundred and thirteen, but they don't have a bench and at some point you that's play the starters to many minutes
who are the benches going to let up a little bit and all the sudden? It's a two point game again. You saw it again today and the other thing with the heat, You know they made amity trees. There are sixteen for thirty six, forty four percent from three in this game, I wouldn't say their red hot, that's kind of who they are they're gonna, be between thirty eight and forty four percent game became they're gonna hit between fifteen and twenty three, so never going to go away. You not blowing the mouth, no it even when Boston got up I don't know why. I don't how many times you going to watch games we're a team goes up to fifteen. The other team comes back like it actually happens, that's that's normal where they come back. So even when Bossa was up early and Marcus Marcus Smart hitting a bunch of shots earlier this is where does you notice some late? One common rely but he's gonna take em and you have to sell. You knows that us air amazing, what they, the dairy markets, Marcus hits a few in the first quarter. It's actually yet worried. Yes, and Walter recoiling. Yet what I
yeah well organised is I got this guy's I'd. Rather, he missed thoroughly and then had some late, Ireland, Let me give you some more numbers on the three. So I'm sorry, but like Campbell, got his last five games, one hundred and six one hundred and six one hundred and six one hundred and seven one hundred and nine when it's against Toronto or Toronto's entire defense was set up to screw you up and you're, watching it going like. That was hard. It was really hard for camping to get free on that box, one against Toronto. It worked on stopping Kemba, it did not work what were you wanting up games to win the series, but then you're looking at this Miami part of it you're going okay, it isn't box. Someone like you, have your free looks to come off that high screen dribble into your three Tampa is not a catch and shoot three. I don't know what the numbers are at. Just doesn't look comfortable at all he's so much more comfortable dribbling into the three point attempt those shots are there for him again and now. This is five straight games. A guy can't hit the shots and I think, he's moving all right
So I don't know what the deal is here I mean a lot. Akimbo text reads right now: who has doktor building on it. She doesn't understand what happened to Kemba. There's two three types of text: threads one is he hurt and they're not telling us and it doesn't look like he's hurt and then to it's like what the fuck happened to Kemba, because this guy was awesome certain season like he. He don't. He not only is like a forty plus three point shooter, but you know he can beat people have to dribble. He has like these three spots a little like Chris Paul. He is like his little spot on the right. Free, throw line, he's got his little pretends, he's driving it. Step back twelve footer and then he's got like a twice, so he has his shots that he just consistently hit that never really seen a missed them consistently and now none of them are going in and and trying to
What happened to this guy- and I really think it's as simple as it says- is that this is doctor a psychologist specimens thou my dad myself. My theory licensed he hasn't been in a big game since March Madness, you kind of nine years ago, and I think he wants this so badly, and this is it's almost. I wouldn't say it's like when you say somebody's choking, it's almost a he wants a too much and he's thrown himself at his game cause. Some of this stuff is doing is is stuff that I've never seen him do before the keys path. One time today, he passed up an open three, so he could pass Marcus Smart for a contested three- and it's like you just never do that in January, uterus taken that every time and then some of the stuff when he's driving to the basket. It's like his handles off and it just seems like he's pressing to me. I definitely think he's pressing. So I would say it's more that because
don't like when you guys out their run around four forty minutes. Ross was just take a guy's her because he s an injury history from before, even though I think all of us think that watch closely that there could be a lingering thing there are Campbell, but not enough to use it as an excuse to keep his shot now. Suffice regains, but his drives into traffic, not without much of a plan and you're, always gimme the smallest guy there and you're, not some high flying guys wish at this point to curb illegal. Five years has been thirty, eight thirty, seven. Thirty, nine percent from three he's a really good three point: shooter a gothic really number one option. When he had no help make the numbers he was putting up with charlatan weathers. Like there's another guy in? Was it like? He was doing some absolutely gross shot. Attempt thing to get his numbers is really good play, so this is. This is alarming that has gone on for this long and I or his last three games. He is thirteen for forty six, its game. Six games having game went today.
Like some of the sub. They were doing late. The game there, just due to me a game attainment Campbell trying to figure out lego cable. If we get to switch here that we like like how do you want to attack it, but then it's like a k like at least with Yo Kitchen Murray and the two main game, even though its predictable there's different options off of it. When it's right look again at all admit, there's times I didn't always like it with combined Tatum, it was just. How can we get a switch? I who wants to do, and I so I do- I get the next one that was, I couldn't believe I couldn't believe it. Bad. It was at the end of that game, but my Emmi was tougher. They were tougher than them at the end and by the way the game should even got overtime is smart flops. It's that bullshit call before the amount they take, the free throw and it just such a horrible look at such a bad look in that spot because you go, you only made the car because he fell down. I mean I ask people and I know softball stats wholly cross to unto games how shut out the whole western crew, but how many times you fall down and pick up games the answers. Euro interest, probably zero and everybody was pretty good, like maybe somebody
I was in a lamp attempt. Maybe so we could follow guys, don't fall down this much normally in a basketball game and out everybody falls dead. The greatest athletes on the planet are falling down, left and right, and it's like flopping is isn't, is bad in the game, but some of the off the ball flopping that gets called now, and I just. Under state like I think the league needs to really revamp this two hours actually make it harsher to go. Unless you saw someone actually get rushed on something, let's default to they probably flopped, because most guys, this strong would be falling down for two and a half hours, whether kinda thing today, I actually liked a lot of the shots. You got thrown away the end of the game, but it certainly had a lot more freedom than he did in the Toronto series, and I also like the fact that defensively they could hide them on a couple different guys like there were times when he was just garden Crowder because
So as I go, if you evaluate energy to three. Yes, I give you an explicit evirene opposed, come up with crowded like please go ahead, knock yourself out, thou be great or a good dollar same thing. Please post them up. So I think I think this is a better series for them. The dragon thing is a problem of ITALY. I think those are the type of guards- and I said this on Sunday: does a temper guards have just killed these Celtic James over the last couple years, it's a one type, a guy that Marcus is in great guarding. I think they did a really nice job on butler. You know he had set three in the. One that huge three had. I think either oh dear regulation, whatever, but that was regulation the one on the right corner here when he was a design broken play not in it, was a broken play. He stepped up as the defence would behind it, but he was a non factor. This you're right about drugget carry when it was weird until they had an amazing second quarter, and then here with that one big three.
Lay but drag its early was. I thought, really important economy keep in a minute. But what worries me the most is giving white they actually want to make. Her is pretty good. That would lead to a good moderated have allowed me. I m the only get there. He was an actually brought him in for defence at the end, which I don't remember them going off and defence with Cambodia and began by they. Don't really they can't play robber limbs against a caused. All my aim is gonna. Do going to hunt them and sneak Olympic off and she trees and then the tick waves out great waves are going to have to play, which means my aim is gonna. Leave him up that other than that. It's like social, and some of that. My point is everyone's Aqua Hayward's coming back this year is okay. Well, if a word, complicity comes back for game to replace twenty minutes. We're not getting like PETE Gordon Hayward, like we've seen him come back from injuries is always tentative he's going to be rusty, even if he plays out of it. That's not going to be till game V game six and I just
south are in trouble, cuz this team, the dirty secret of that Toronto series was Toronto. Wasn't very good, but go look at the stats. Go look at their shooting stuff like been being bleed. And even Lowry didn't shoot thou well. Backer was the only guy who, like really are Shotwell for them. In that serious, it was just they were so tough and they are so well coach and they knew every trick in the book and they were but a drag, that serious to seven. Meanwhile, Boston when six The seven games- basically it's not going to work against this by Timothy Miami- is really talented. I think they're, the most talented team left. I would have said that before the clippers lost, I don't know that I could see most talented when I still think like they're one and two in the drop off from where the clippers were in the Lakers. And that's this arguing here talk to your town that I have one top ten guy. Then I have one top ten guide layers of too tough I've I like there and through nine more, any other team, including the cupboards who are now got now. I know
the argument is causing you go one through nine. That's why they built around promotes light were built different man we're like well yet those right through three railways rather a great one in two and then a bunch of their brother, a great wanted to you at the history tells us you'd rather have a great wanted to, but the difference between my Emmi step as it they're gonna be able to do different stuff. They just are I'm going to say this right now, Hewitt up Kyle get the record button ready. If Miami plays this Lakers team in Miami gets by Boston, the Lakers get by Denver. I think it is a two slash four two thousand and four finals scenario in the making for an upset. I think it's a terrible matchup for the Lakers wow, so you're
pistons figure amount and then every game you're speculators figured out. Yes, I gotta that they got it and then it's gonna be like this clippers nuggets errors were sent out. The series is ever yet. A difference is that the Lakers won't becoming off of a bunch of titles in a row or the short of over it because are not as Hungary to get points, and that's also something that I think is funny, you think of the irony of some of the discussions around Kauai or it's like what do we do with this guy if he goes to three different franchises and winds of title, like it's never been done. This is crazy, like what you do, and my argument was impressive is that is the difference. Is that the great players of all the other generations would have jumped to three teams and three years and put them in position they would have won a title would have stayed in a lot of these guys. Do
for the prime of their careers- and we have this odd deal here, but La Braun is actually close to doing the thing. We were ready to start applauding the wife or doing which we didn't really talk about. I thought on Sunday night, I thought my aim is should be favoured and the serious and I thought there are going to win the series unless Tatum went up a level, so I still feel it that's in play and it's kind of a cop out. I will just pick the says that site. That's my pick. Adding my aim is gonna win the series, unless Tatum vaults up a level a little like the ran in two thousand and twelve, and that spurs series in just everyday that happened where the rent went up a level, and then I was like this guy's, the best part in the series they're going to win as put a stop for Boston, there's a scenario where Kemba shakes out of this slump and starts hitting shots again and go back to twenty five points, a game guy, but I can't bank on anymore with he just hasn't been good. You know why.
In the bubble, like that other than a couple Philly Games, and am that counter anymore? No doubt my isabel rascals him and deposited got this one. Who knows it is still not possible here. The Miami thing it's like they role through the walkie, but I mean it still as we are that, if that they played, I think an eighty two game schedule through that number out you. They were given a forty nine when team and I'll bet. That thing is that cracker piggy trade, that they did not altogether guide Matera the way out of the egg it as much form it all now, but I just think it round said now: any gives them up. Disability they didn't have before, and the hero gets just got better as the years went along with the other piece quickly couple more things and then we'll go cuz. I want to get this podcast up most fun, D'Antoni team, for you. What do you want him to go? Okay,.
I'm well, we ve heard the silly thing for a while. I really wholesaling doesn't happen please now I don't. I don't know that it makes a ton of sense for him, because it's just that bill that way. Unless it's a check list, he looks at it. One more time says: hey: this is the check and I'm ready to go. It's probing Orleans get that. I found this to be the best, an app Alonzo right here. The carcase answer from showing you Steve NASH, Edna and James Harden video tapes are some overspread the for free, a decent lots of stuff. Now, whether his that type a player- I don't know, but he it's been great with blackguards, but he got Jeremy Lin to look like an all star for four weeks, so Lazo can be redeemed and Cassie did a good job talkin about this either Dan. His pack asked about with lines I went south, it wasn't just a shooting. It was like this guy on the Lakers a thicket, a chance to be a semi special defence apparent, doesn't play,
fence anywhere in the world, so I don't have the Antonia the one who's gonna be tapping into that, but I grant him was, I am, would be really fun. The morn thing is launched. Looks so bad on the restart that I want to forget it happen and give a clean slate that he goes into a normal season. Looking like the player that looked like you no he's gone from who I kind of like this. I like these in between things he does, and everybody else understands he was really good defensively, he's smart defensive player in the concepts and then you're like this guy's going to be a bust. He stinks he's past if you can't shoot he's on video, yet even guard him, and then this year in the normal phase of of the season, they were really some good things today or watch it, but if the shot was better, he had to be somebody at least had to close out on a respect enough and yet the defensive part of it. I mean it was so bad watching
I'm just gonna pretend it didn't happen in duly clean slate lawns. O thing I did that's fair yeah because I would like to restart was too short. So, let's see does I'll have him at face in urban now, because he went to you can have sham at facing. Go to this Gary Harris AB sham face. He went pretty high, though checking with trade has been acting for you would you trade drew holiday for the number to pick Andrew wagons And the Minnesota TAT through protected picture. I got three more years awakens, though right yeah, you know, I probably. Drew out his thirty wonder, I probably would I think I would too, and I think I would have on gold state
I could go to hurry clay holiday, Dray, mind an free agent to ever Jacob Evans. I hear that one I mean Wiggans immediately scares me off every time. I hear the name, but I cannot hide out like a medium and sane person, but do I kind of wanna hear our Jacob Evans since Europe Minnesota swung to double check that for the huge Jacob Evans fans out there? I am. I not I wanted to kind of see what Wiggins looks like for the rest of those guys. That would be where I landed as well. If I were them, I would trade back and try to get somebody to fit in bed like a seventeen million dollar trade exception. I would trade back from relax nine ten eleven range to some team, that's hard to trot fur like to get somebody second and try to steal some, like Jeremy Grant type
ever that version right, I am sent any go back and get like the eighth pack and you get back. I put him the trade except. I did that's a better move. I would want the draft pictures of the fixed costs and I like some of the guys in his draft yeah. That's where I think the New Orleans thing would be interesting. If you could I'd have to look at their salaries. She multiple an opera now, but with the two picks, save you enough that, if science to yourself in your Billy's, you get like a second reset with Zion to bring in somebody around him, but also with golden state and how hours I mean the four guys in us how Reese are so knots GAD if you're moving Wiggans AL, you still are so high up salary why's that it be amazing to get a couple picks just for that that cost effectiveness of it and you would figure at the very least you get a rotation guy but
maybe not this year on us, not net next thing, for you for data cause you or for data for Tita the one whatever you have you pronounce his name. He cause any thy. Guy he's a hey, just I'm just been called around people respect them a huge fan of the Pike ass. What we do of you or me. Would you run this back with this team in a different coach? Would you try to get a big? What would you do? I go hated, You wanna play Russ again at any trade. Russ, by way trying to trade Russ now is that ain't the west, but like a viewed, maybe been able to trade him. Will you didn't even want to treat him, I think, are still likes Russ. I gotta know what what's important harden I go Kay the new coach comes in. He doesn't want to let you trouble the ball between your legs. For forty fuckin presented a game.
What do you do you wanna get anyone out there? started what either that or you do we needed another year to see that it doesn't work like what are you? What are you looking for James even though a cutting edge you give him Jane sovereignty by regular argue built different problem. I would I would blow this whole thing up. I would I can't imagine, owning the team in having to watch this and then sign all the checks. So I would is How did his hardness? I would not want to run the now. I dont know if, with his money situation, already cups keys, writing about how is not liquid and with everything going on and all the hotels and all that kind of stuff does he needed just be competitive, so we could trick all the Rockets fans at a figure like hey man. You know has been on fire this, this February's harden, we whence we went twelve and three in our last fifty another week
Do it this year? Is that enough that you know it again? Who knows what normal is? Is that enough, like what would you do art? Let's turn it around? He calls you. What would you do a bill? I wanna make a gm go. I think, because you have no other choice. You talk yourself into had a team looked in February in what that could look like outside the bubble with fans, and I also ask you to look No, I'm not saying it's right, but I think it's like a relationship where you break up with somebody and then you get back together and then again maybe she won't show me with other guys again, a new age. Just talk yourself Whatever reality, what I think, maybe Julia was met on the weekend, refrain either the reality of this team is that their windows- two thousand eighteen in two thousand eighteen island.
Everything was they traded, isn't perforating. They deserve a tonic, criticality corner, but the other thing. I think that fuck them was they traded Chris Paul, not realizing that he was about to go to this point based diet that completely changed his career that go. Google Chris Paul plant based diet. He we basically went a time machine back to two thousand fourteen have led a that's why he looked so good this year, each chip on his shoulder to, but I think it had known that was going to happen. The smarter movies just to keep Chris Paul in those two extra first round picks and The contracted ended a euro earlier than rests. I think we're all going selling high on Chris Paul, because his career is about to go and the pupil.
It made me realize that he was about to have this kind of rejuvenation. Don't make parliament or port no postman her ok, sewn up, but Paul's argument was hey, I'm still beaten, guys off the jewel. Folks. Ok, like all of you to want me in a retirement home here, I'm still taking people have to double. The problem is, is hardened, doesn't move? Ok off the ball harden doesn't do any thing and you can say that space is everything but, like the defenders, no in big spots once James is into the plays down on the plane. I have to pay attention that was pause beef, but I also think mixes. Paw like this high iq, basketball guy. He be pissed at Hartnell time and hardens like this. Is my team, I'm sick of this shit I get along with Russ, better anyway and so hard and goes to management or issues migos to ownership. It says I want to play with so I think that's your biggest problem, even if you want to try the hardest thing again, the guys incredibly productive. We know this he's healthy he's going to hold up. I think for a really long time, but I want to know they can't you want to keep start playing the style. Can you do
Will the Russ Parr like I know those two months were incredible. We opened all up, but like do we want to just be incredible in February or March, going to have a real shot at this, because having a real shot at this waiver construct a right now, we'd, probably don't have a great chance and that's the biggest like the Covington things great. I love Pj Tucker, Eric Gordon, you know, look up and down before where he is on. This team is the third, sometimes sports guide, not that big of a deal, but I would have to know where Harden's heads that, with the whole thing cuz just to run it back with Russ and him probably what happens because I think trading for us is really really hard. The only teams I ever hear about Russ. This is what happens. I think I'm sure this before, but a team that would sit around me like we're. Still, we haven't done shit, we're totally off the radar for five some years. Do we just throw a bunch of pieces? It rough sincerity, we ve got a superstar, I'm using air quotes were superstore withdraws. Do we just do it to shake it all up and be different? Have a cool attraction and the like ways forty four million of these her. Well, it's a movement I that in this sector,
is it 80s in the NBA, like Russ, would have been traded to more time. Since I, like George Mcguinness, we're Phillies. I gave an any interest in George Mcguinness endeavours like yeah, that guy's great here's Bobby Jones, then they give Bobby judge the best defence forward in the straight up for George SK as back then like people barely knew how to run a team, and we still have that with certain teams. Like could like a key MIKE Sacramento go a brass me when they VP three years ago, could you sell tickets for US probity? facts repressing likely that there was a body already held her us. They forget the better player and then I'll send Russia's undertake addresses boob again, and it go ahead. I thought you James Ardor were so close James. I get buddy he'll spot of shooter, so it my guess, is they'll run back new coach blame stuff on the bubble
on the fact that you now restless Banda without blame. Somebody, though, that I'd like somebody, those those articles are coming as there is very little accountability without with innovation. Is I mean look the referee report against golden state two years ago. I still think is one of the more embarrassing things it was Joe. What's the best rumour, you ve heard over the past two weeks that J Cutler stating Tommy Lorraine How it is hardly wherein there is a targeted Tommy, the red tie, gets Tommy, link, conservative lady added arriving better is Tom Brady washed up, have all areas go, and you know what the hell is: Rob Missoula like Tom Brady Practice, I dunno what that was all about or like were not used to that here's years. Something I wanted to tell you that
that shows that Amazing Ireland out here in seven ten beginning the show and they were doing the Brady segment where it was? What does this mean? I almost called in case you should have. I can't believe in what world would We have twenty years of evidence that Brady's the fuckin man and the bell the best to ever. Do it and it's how that still all the balance with a few weeks here it is twenty a season it season, forty three, that would be like watching brave heart. Watching William Wallace the whole movie goin. Alright, alright, ok array, and then it gets his guts spoiler gets taken out at the end and in semi the theatre to actually goes when at the tough. After all, her twas in that of what are you talking about that we already have? We have all of this evidence that they're both incredible. I just I resist and I think less of
argument that somehow that this is some thing, that's all it's a zero sum game theory, one winter when loser would still not sure whose actually any good in that. So that's about rumours it a bad bad segment. I love it. The ETA I sire you, your tweet was like what was it Belgic one Brady's here yet the updated Bill and Tom Power rankings. I had bill one this week, Tom too, but evidence was the next. We place our sad. I talked to bear on Sunday and I don't think this is an overreaction, Brady's last his ability to improvise- and I think it's very important quality for the quarterback position when something unexpected happens When you have to go to plan c on a play. You early already, there you're good budget cause, I think a stifled. You're too I've got that way.
Last year I dont know what I saw. This game is a continuation of last year, where he's he's become like a stage actor who has to have the lions exactly how he memorize them and then the other actors have to say their lines exactly in his used to it. But if somebody had lives item he'd eat and it has now had a role within anywhere. That's what I see when I watch him. I think he knows what he's doing for two and seconds with the boss. And, if anything goes wrong, either throw it away doesn't want to get hit and he's not ready to experiment. You just says want to do it and that's what I see as somebody's watching out for two decades of my life he used to have, supernatural ability to move around and create an extra second extra second and a half. Kind of move around without being like a scramble like Josh Alan mobility in the pockets of best I've ever seen. Mobility in the pocket he's not mobile, quarter backwards, mobility, which is
far more important to get a dozen right that anymore. He just doesn't, and I think these teams thou go in there just send in deeds Adam because they're like if we can get to him, we can start hitting, am she's gonna he's gonna not be able to do a thing he does not. Now he did get like a hundred yards of pass interference on top is that I think, is stats or limit the saving, but a valley have like five or six like really terrible is that? I don't think you can chalk up to as those teammates, yet I wasn't what I saw. I thought I was for three d really wanna get hit. I thought the Evans throw. Where was the first pic? I could see how that could be on Evans begin. This is twenty years of thinking was never his fault on any. Corruption and, as already was because you re usually go back and look at every interception in those peak Brady. Fifty years and you go yeah alright. Actually you see what happened here and why that went wrong. I don't know whose fault that was the throat of the right look like it just took a long time to get the ball over there and that's the throw where people tell you like when it goes
there. You can really make any more. It was funny watching, drew lots it up and Manning yeah will Manning's. It was over. It is having to throw pop ups to get the ball down the field and because ends at higher in the air. It was easier to recover. If you were the vendor on the ral, but it will not work, he's not as bad as many waiting compare. That does not yet good good good. I'm glad we got that other wags about together anyway, but your drew lock for Denver, but he had a throw to the sidelines of sick in that aim against stub against sent a sea, and I was a car, that's right as Brady's looked so bad, I'm gonna go ahead in weight because at a rate is a huge where we know this only deserve. Thanks are steps in that. We know that Brady's, a big rep guy, there's no way you get the reps dozing to get. I dont know why you wouldn't deferred Brady. That's what our way did the great Pate Manning story when he was his free aged toward egos Harbaugh. He and
are playing catch in Harbaugh's, actually like a losing a little something on the ball, and I was like you're going to be sick. What are we going to run are both of my stuff and it goes to LA always at we run whatever you want a wide, bring Brady in and tell him he can't run his stuff that he's comfortable with. So I gotta see more of him looking bad before. I'm ready right this, although the accuracy numbers last year, there was a lot. Were very good about. That is forty three years old, you know that's that about the seven games. Yet, oh, that's that that staff- and, I repeat, overtime- seven games have been started by quarterback forty three or in history, this was never going to end well and there's going to be a season where it just isn't rough seas. And then it's going to end and Brett Favre was Manny and banning that last season the won the Superbowl. They barely did it, but it was John cuz as with Kyle, were watching the Arizona San Francisco game on one tv and then Buck saying about Kyler about his role that you're? What
Kyler, and then you watch ambrady in its like. If a card must play, went wrong, collars bag, I call on the run seventy four arts and by the way he has thirteen runs he had the collar had thirteen runs any either ran out about slid or scored on twelve and thirteen you'll get at one time he just dominated it in you, watch Brady who had psych if that, if the play go perfectly the first two seconds. It was either he's during the where's getting head, or God only knows, and as they there's like it's hard to say the goat anymore. If those the goat, I'm just not ready to I'm not ready to say that it's like use You sound like you read it, it is right, I'm pretty badly. I died, eight, I was written form I really I bet on them. I like I wanted a reform in and it was a bummer. Is this like one their bodies show up a lumps, come back to school and it's like twenty five and they can ship faced with you and they sleep on your couch. They wake up at your house. If you look at them and you're like oh, my god, I look so old,
You never had a lump sleepy or houses. We had that. We had a couple and we were like horrified look what the hell is that what's going to happen to us, I was thinking last two years bird, when it's like he looks like Larry Bird gets so put up twenty book a couple awesome games, but it was like I knew, is different. I just didn't want to admit it. Well, the sailor I'm shocked to use the seller is a cop amazing. He loves Scotty Miller attire. TAT Joe? He loves Scotty Miller. He really loves the sky, loves you! You hear that all your reseller thanks for staying up late on a Tuesday night to commemorate the cripple collapse of two thirds twenty trademark. The European you ever pack has come at there is there. I do as well we were was see, then I'd thanks to spot a fire thanks to resign
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