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a reverie you get? Your part cast your worth? Less keep restriction. I will not raise some of you to move we roughly army or for those really believe in the american process. All of strings no taste which some Figaro on the Black Sea has network was havin a station is this? Is your girl, Tesla vigour, brawls day? I have my girl, Ebony Kate, William seasoned attorney, Arthur House, upholding port right here in the black big packets network, holster revolt, black, knows. Ember no is cast members on real housewives of New York, and she is my girlfriend. My sister, beautiful, beautiful ebony K will use. Thanks would join me, which a busy schedule up your honour, of course, in two years, always make tar for queen like you and how could it be

sport first time aren't stray yeah. Yeah is yes Yes, MA am absolutely I'm glad the heavy nowhere pressed for time, because you Bisbees one, so I want to give right to it? You don't have nevertheless reality shall ever in history right out. I never was a reality. To watch one in one particular time and just never be now. We have to say constantly in the news watching the news twenty four hours a day, but when you join real housewives in New York. Obviously I wanted to support you not first and foremost, but I've wanted to make sure that our understood why we're doin what you were doing because, honestly, I didn't see you away that way. You know like how does she fit into their mouths and now that I'm watching I get it, I get one

You accept this opportunity, it makes total says to me I understand, but I want to ask you just splatter before I can get into that. How are you on ebony, because this is a huge emotional tall and a lot of folks that don't work in the space that we do maybe just gonna see these reality shows is what I call it trash tv or you know, entertainment, but to you what your brain, to that space is what you do all of the time, which is black excellence and understanding the nuances and the importance and how every word matters because of you know your background. So too many now it may just be entertainment, but to you it is obviously a bit carry a big, live, an emotional lived, and so you took off social media a couple weeks ago for that reason began. He had this ban yet, as I appreciate the inquiry right because it all of what you said. It is my

honor in my privilege to be able right. I get to do this to represent a level of like excellent on this particular platform for the first time, by the way, the franchise history of thirteen years, which is unconscionable, but that's where we are sought, took the hiatus because I am a human being. You know and you know we all know about those strong black woman narratives and we are strong and were human and we're complicated and we are vulnerable so for me, it was a requirement to pull away from some of the just more visceral scrutiny. I'm not new to the right as well. I mean you, and I both have shared space in in in the deepest of arena. Particularly during appearances in time, if Fox NEWS, so I It is to get those those horrific trolls, but frankly, after my time, a fox I hadn't really been in those spaces, say it's because I'd more or less been with my people, you know during my work

revolt and other spaces that had been predominantly a blackened of color So that was just a necessary thing to me. I mean people are gonna, say what they gonna say: that's not my business, but I don't have to they'll myself to abuse right, and I think that simple for people announced. I take a step back how my feeling today much much better there, still some Karen's controls out there. Please believe it, but I'm a big two things to be candid has become the muscle memory right really of of what you know was used to during those cable news days has come back yet also I'm a little better equip now for the the tough line, bounce off kind of effect they are used to employ very well, and you don't gotta get, must wag back with them The other thing is, I'm being so beautifully affirmed by people did appreciate, appreciate this representation at you, The vast majority of better appreciation looks like us and all of it does it a lot of our people that do not look like us. They also

of our very keenly aware that it is time for something different, something fuller they represent. This is new. City. For God's sakes, you know how you, how to show this exclusively white in what is said to be the most. first city in the world. We don't fifty five percent of New York is both black and latina. It's unacceptable. So I'm getting really positive, love and affirmation that keeps me focused on the work for those who are not watching. I just kind of want to go over that on why you did happen they they hide, is yet a very challenging episode watch every week. That way, I would talk about chilcats members, but I know you like to bring up Podcast on the show and whose word remedy some measure year, because I got plenty to say about a couple of those on the gas that you did- you do it, but you took off because there was a very heated exchange between you and Lu Lu Start. What did you take up?

when it was between you and low about making the common value being angry black woman, who that's over two weeks a two week period right, because over that two weeks. There was a few things we need to deal with. We had to deal with the angry black woman comment. We need to deal with my using the phrase white fragility, we needed to deal with the micro aggression of when Heather called me, articulate so there with a few different, I'm embarrassed prize. Another man a recent study there that I forget off, but I did because I knew that the react was gonna, be so severe and I say so We're tears because they were both people there were strongly, finally happy seekers Rony in a lot of ease, you know all white predominantly white franchises of the platform they they had a displayed. What WU We call casual racism for years. You know, and I mean that these are not secrets. Their episode will one of those

in any case members why woman on the precise walks into a nice restaurant in Manhattan sees a black man, gives them in her coat and a work here. You know so stuff, like that. You know there was a lot of controversy roundly when last season, two seasons ago rather showed up to a Halloween Party dressed, Diana Ross. It looked like black face to me. And many others so that that history is there. So I knew that once started really calling a thing, a thing by addressing the fact that when you call a black woman angry when this other white woman just Cassio call Golly, constantly cousin amount about away you're right right on a daily basis, Is there I called angry there? Never ass to leave your home. There is a discrepancy here and I have to that's the work we do Tesla

This is where we do. That's why this shows so dear to my heart straight: shot, no chaser! I also call the thing a thing MA am that is a stereo, typical trope that you are levelling at me, and I will I will always called out in a best mess it up, something good time to the folks they feel like. They only want to watch this schoeffer sheets and giggles and laughed and entertainment, I'm not going to let why supremacy prevail for the sake of your entertainment value. I will not do that. I heard this is thank you for being just a support to me. It is so few of us, Madeira,. and I'm sure you feel the same that I feel like along like truly, even though I know I have both like yourself, better in this space, where this you'd make a ban, whoever Panada meal, it is such a small group of us a handful. That really is ok, common thing, a thing and we're

Hey will calling a thing a thing more when front Wifi Box, you know, oh, you call and tell him. Girls is, but then we stuck on a thing of being in front black folks, then that becomes even a bigger problem, so we get it from every angolan? You wanna talk about that the other night and I am so grateful for you. We get it from every angle. You get it from black, false the people you're fighting more you native to the people that you are fighting white folks. I mean every single angle, on what it's like to show up in the room and not in It's only make people uncomfortable not because the competence and in calling a thing. I think it's just a bothers people ebony. It really really does in that's being your whole experience and will your whole career right it. It has. If somebody really smart, a good brother, my name Eugene Scott he's at the Washington Post, brilliant journals. I went to school what you doing, what do you and see together a million years ago, Eugene made a good comment, because what you

you said I want to just sit with, which is it's one thing to have you no white supremacist and people. They do the work of upholding. Why supremacy, which sometimes quite his cap, and not all white, They don't really want hold it up on its wiping out those people be combative and an visceral is something else for me, at least it has. It hits different and really more painful, much more painful when it is your own people, and one of the comments that I did not anticipate with this work in this space on this platform, more people of color in really my own black people, tat talking about how uncomfortable I'm making them by calling a thing of being on this platform and end Eugene

to me. He said whatever you have to understand when you do what you do, which is confront the supremacy on its face, and you don't let it slide, you are holding up a mirror to some of us. The in our everyday lives turn other way and let it slide for the sake of status, quo maintenance for the sake of white comfort, for the sake of key Hi you starting up like can't right right right now, is going to be it so when, when they have to look at you the opposite of what they do, every day in their daily lives, it ruffles their spirit, eat something more than they can handle, and so there was a good, a good take, because it really really lets me not take it. This is not a visceral reaction to me. I am now making you uncomfortable. Actually you

are seeing a reflection of which you don't do nest was making you uncomfortable girl ass it everybody needs to do it right test will be an honest. We have these conversations and everybody built like you test, and I know it was not built like me day of the shore everybody's not built like mega it'll, be, does not have a mandate for an effort to shame those danish right to let the things slide or do maintaining the status quo, for whatever reasons Unita to write it no shame us that's right leaving the way we need to spiritually move this right. That's right! Because there's something for everybody to do. I believe that it there's something everybody to do, but I just wanna so interesting. You know the four five people there a sand, something you must give an example of poor people in Rome. The sand, you're, so he'll been on making me shut up, you know, but even though you got a thousand people with you, what is

about me that you just feel you must shut down and you're right ebony and hold the mere up to what people are doing and should be told. This is not easy. This vessel is work of having to constantly have urged. I was watching, view Mickey data early and you says, is gaining categorically. You said I have the pull through forecast People always say the same thing, because every single report car says Greystone talks too much greater student case. I'm talking, I mean literally every single here- and let me guess they don't matter who they sit you next to could they used to move my ass? To will talk to her too. I don't care your call. Will you have in your spirit I'm telling Have you no? We talked about some traumas I'll bet you have had in that area and you really struggle with. Am I m a walking in an inn?

order? What God wants me to do? Am I making sure, because that's the only thing cuz? If I listen to other folks around me, I would never say anything so many times have to take a backseat. I have to Let us not have leverage in and have to wonder about the consequences. When I call the consequences of consciousness, that comes with So when you're Doin S showing your being so true yourself and you haven't as well. Yeah, I'm sure you ve had your sell em up it, what am I going. You know there's a constant struggle. Is this going to affect? my business relationship of my personal relationships. How am I gonna move? think people understand the the weight of that of having to make the decision, because most just don't make the decision. Hey, I'm just going to say anything. I want to set my job. I wonder what everybody but the weight of that. I think there is a misconception. Thinking that this is something we want to do. How did you get called do. This. Work on real house was in the yard because, as very different than is actually the same facts actually be quite honest. What is

One of the few people bed know how parallel it is like it. I say in I'm not ever joking when I say again that people think I'm trying to be Q, I'm not the training ground of being in a space like Fox NEWS network was the profits preparation. for the work I'm doing on roaming father, does that have to tell you and if you don't understand what I said, watch both platforms, the you'll see arm. So it's heavy work. but you said it important worrying. That is called, I believe in calling some people call to pulpits. Some people are called the classrooms at this juncture. In my life I am some people call to public office and leadership at this. In my life, I'm very clear, because I believe him in prayer and and meditation. I am clear that God is called me to do this work on this platform at this part

the killer time. I dont know how long that calling will be relevant right, As part of, why am I answered? When are other kind of income which is the key that negotiation. I have with myself both when we were taping and even watching the episodes back and even as I prepare for the reunion taping, which will be in many weeks what too much. Where am I doing too much Why am I also second guessing some of these? they could have decision making that you see- and you see I mean- and I know you could you catch everything to like. I do so. You see the Malcolm X Y short in the boxing. you see the blacklist, matter mask. You see the exaggerated five in central park. I carry those brothers with me tension. You see our speeches, As in the recent episodes we had a LE wean Paget Party became an eye

it s. She actually was the very first black contested to be amiss. America in the EU is unthinkable. Nineteen. Seventy on the dot when the way and said that that was the theme of the party. My first thought: could you not come from Padgett ass? I could I get my black ass even be competing in the same passion with you in the nineties. Any did, of course, that's a thought. Mike may never have to contend with, but I had it all with a realise that was exactly around the era of mainstream pageant integration. I wanted to. do that deadline so too b and c and begin to the fact that in the confessional one of my case, Aids, Ramona singer is like really happen. really it, you can never have fun. What realize in a lot of black people, take their position to light they observe you know. We know you. I love what you said. The young. You say the truth is that the consequent consequences of cartoons s so when you're you're carrying bat

it's fun for me to show up in that love. Of honouring my ancestry and black excellent, so dont get it twisty, always point in this. Sometimes the work is the heavy that you speak about sometimes is in reiterating by curious trauma, and sometimes it is just fine like when I got there put on it for a week and put on jumpsuit and recite. The words on the spoken word I did is actually a quote from Angela Davis, and that was fun for me now get that that might not be fun for everybody MA yet today was matters here. They was uncomfortable. You saw him looking around, but it was fun for me. So the It is just something I want to make clear that bit. Every negotiation is not me being a martyr to this work. Some of this, for me, is quite. Enjoy a ball. You see where we will have another sorting night right, very boring, but when we come back, I bring the Ladys to Harlem.

and I'm not gonna, give it away, but I q rate and my good friend, good friend, who Phelps who helped me week, you're rated a beautiful even of a black cuisine, an x it's in a black woman dressed watch here in Harlem shudder be squared and Adrian with music. That was as parliament like does, she say: my soul, a fire in the best way. Oh, so don't don't cry any tears for me around that part of the work, because it's quite beautiful and quite rewarding issues. This is Le Figaro House, the straight shot, no chase on the black effect pack has network on our hard radio. Why is it that the all this child girls up with the strict rules but the young. One always gets away with everything. There is no way, You would have been allowed to do. That is like your parents are playing favorites shouldn't everyone get the same treatment

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because we didn't get a chance to talk about the other day, and this is a story that so that you know that what you're doing literally impact for ebony and because you brought up the page- and I want to tell you what I picked up from the pageant muffin- page and I was eleven years old command. I won the pageant and my cousin crown me who now we get along really well, but at that time we did not. She was always she had resentment against me for various reasons. a lot of issues would abandon man and fathers and I know you're getting ready to go into men. You know dealing with that too, so I didn't want. Have you come back with that? You are now we're very close, but in it- we were not and when I saw these pageant mature data, MRS Ana store. It took me back to bed now remember. At eleven years, when one is sweetheart I was so excited. I was so excited to get the crown, but the person that was given me to crown,

Didn't want me to win. Who was my family? The part? The people the charge didn't want me to win. They made a big issue about how Lucia Young but an idea. a spoken where peace idea a monologue of Harriet Tubman Command. Everybody in the shower said Otto must understand it was better. She should have once she should have one. Girl? I went back to that when you did that episode in thinking about the people who you learn at as early a gazelle talked about, you know what it was like you imagine and be runner up in. feeling that you deserved it and earned it, and then you know you guys joked about all. You know what else is bullshit I should want, but what year did for me, everything was make me. Go back

they're still especial everything that I got you into space. It politically have recent, but there's just some people. They just don't want you to win and if they felt like that about me at eleven, we had the me charges because of that, because it was that hateful and that I just couldn't rat my brain around why You want to take a crown from an eleven year. Not only eleven years old girl saw went to manage and I found to my best friend where my best friends today, my best friend, over thirty years we ve been through everything. Free highs, college marriage key its mother who had all of it now there is not a lot of women, it could save about relationships, but I'm going but to say that, even though they try to the minutes, my spirit, so young ere. It taught me a valuable lesson that even place to now, and then is what we're talking about some people. Just don't want you to win, but I want you to know that you have. Like myself and people out there. They want you to walk

That knows what it means to have a crown on your head. Nobody wanted you to have it. They are now what it means that even the person, a crowd- you may not want you to have an echo, be Fran family lover who ever envy jealous. There's people around you, the applaud and clap, but really I clap You also need to know every you got people rooting for you, and I have to remind myself this all the time young people that are rooting for you that wants you to when they use not visibly always see when, but hopefully in ITALY seem to touch a spirit and continue to help help you keep moving in the space and that episode did a lot for me personally, somebody themselves. I won't come slap of you up for you. My weight has ever gonna vinyl get away ass, rather Lando absolving was somebody go round the table and I thought it was an old man you're about to make sure that food out without such

they argue to cease and desist up in his eyes. Does idolize are so low that you share there, and I wish we had more time to get. I have my own pet, like a real life hatchet story. They changed a whole life introductory was essentially a long story. Short. I was denied a crown. Mackay You're saying is in in so many words. There was an effort to deny you your crale- and this is where the Spirit maturity shows up nine eleven we could you couldn't undressed when man happened to be? I was twenty six I'll say it still, not mature. My faith walk to be candid. how would I know is, God is already Frowned as though we are favoured it is done, is done so first run up with mad, not mad clapping, not clapping, it don't even matter because our job are crucial.

sit divinely invisibly everywhere we go, and I do know that their spears, those like you, those like using scotch like a big brother but John to I love so deeply n, N, N n n purposefully. They do pour into the work that we do and that's why the phone the other night, because I don't always not grew with time. I dont all reach out when when I should, but sometimes it just gets on heart space to say like this, I see you you know me? I see you I hear you. I revere who I'm still learning along with you and is important, and I just love that about your plans. But you don't you do that for me ass. You do enough for many others desolate and is one of the things that really will respect anymore about you, and I do hope people follow your lead. your many people, I will tell you this wide is kept. Even more This is a sisterhood all of those of us that our oh housewives,

it shows in various cities. Beneath me, more that UK and be more of us. They occupy these platforms because whatever our intention to be on the show with we all have powerful, powerful impact heavily lemme. Tell you there I've been on Fox NEWS at Sea and in HIV in all these think back sport, operative, implacable ain't. Nothing can touch the impact of being on Bravo housewives. Franchise platform is not even just the number of where's, because it doesn't match cable news numbers, but there's something about. I guess it's the pulling back of the curtain of the intimate parts of your life too people feel they are in relationship with you, and that is powerful. So I do want to just Use these final moments to just invite all of my sister's they share in this enormous privilege of occupied bees

The platforms just make sure we're were pouring into each other s creating base year. Oh Papa, and when optical pouring into each other s value, we shall not publicly yelled. The dm is one thing but love me in public. What what is it not rather had that's a whole mother comes they, but the truth. You love me in public. You know this ideal. Well, you know one bologna here up when it. Why not I'm one of your thereby umpire every day? So why not I want. I want to get that as big as possible so system we just another when she, I just saw her down in Atlanta, doing important work and she came to support the work I was doing with revolt on the duty. Special doktor can tell them all met cap and doktor, some all Whittemore Dope Queens de medicine, loving Ali, of their and young ones that are and we're we're of the aid. says where we have this whole new generation up underneath us? You know the weird going into so less

normalize their love. Less look, that's normal lives loving your sisters and brothers in public yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. We need more of that leader do what thank you so much, there's so much? We gotta talk about a week as we would like to back a based upon stock and once what's the story lie with you see me going on this journey to by my father S, egg is extremely deep. A really really is. Every powerful and I can't wait to discuss more when it starts doubtful Fidel's. You too has not watch. Please make sure you watch. I have enjoyed watching. You shall possibility that I haven't seen showing class Heaven the best nice nasty in the business and case people- don't pick it up by a lovely mother, might shake somebody with a smile and steal checking who those who think they're uncheckable and doing it all beautiful all the time everyone hates you made. A comment was made:

We want something was forgot, was why was it she said? Do you always have to get out of every time the rabbi Pneumonia every time she don't every time ever No days are arising. I love you, but I'm not used to make sure you come back. I know you got a harder, but also listen you gotta get out. I would thank you so much ebony for joining us

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