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we are the ones that why injured and slave Middest stuff, the people who are owed for slavery are no longer here. I want to check I don't and reparations is a good idea. Everyone should be given the damage that was done to their family cash payments on one November. Handle reparations should be welcomed by all some folks bay. What checks, but what we are really talking about is closing that wealth and making people hole we are on the corner of wall and broad street when almost like famous corners in America, it's the seed of capitalism.

standing at the feet of George Washington, founder of our country, whose looking across Wall Street at the New York Stock Exchange, This is it. This is its smaller than I looked more abreast even pitcher, I was doing a little research before we came down here Erika and you know the valley. Of the company's contained in New York stock exchanges over thirty trillion dollars. that's ten trillion dollars more than the nations GDP every year. Ordinarily Amazon and How you and the amount of trading that is done every day that money that passes through there is, I think, over hundred and sixty billion dollars every night at when you think of Wall Street. What do you think of I think of this I mean it's beautiful

stone is all these really beautiful, polished, bronze doors with sparkling glass in. lot of really decorative iron work around in it's kind of cells. Everybody will. If your white men, you can come in, but we body else, they are meant to intimidate the Dutch it's not only intimidating two new Yorkers, but I think it's meant to be relating to the world, what I didn't realize is that directly across the street is that resolves, walk up their lovin Erika were standing. front of Federal Hall Memorial in That's another gothic building an hour in front of it. There's a statue of George Washington really struck me. I saw us the founder of our country and he's looking across the street at the stock exchange as if he's looking at the Capitalist Foundation of the country, but this is where he took the oath of office upstairs in this building

they really did a nice job on the bronze work near his crutch and it matters you're looking up at him in your mid to see his penis first and then go up to his face and follow his eyes to the stock exchange. At least that's not what I see at our back is George.

Shoot him. If we look to our right, we can see Trinity Church, the oldest church are these well, this church in the country, overstretched New York. If you look across the street directly in front of us, is a stock exchange and then, if you look down the street to the water, you know what's down that street the location of New York's first slave market that was founded in seventeen eleven. So if we should have liked the four points of the Compass in America, we have politics, money, religion, slavery that sounds right. Black people always make up the four points and in fact none of these things could exist, these politics, that religion or that money without slavery and ass, the unfortunate part for them to have white freedom and white x.

They need a black bodies. You know when I met you Whitney. I had no idea that I would be stuck with you for this long he'd been talking about reparations for two years. It's only been two years us, but it's been a hundred. Fifty years for a country, Did you ever imagine yourself making a project? What reparations with a guy named Whitney Burton DOW from the car The Cambridge Massachusetts know you, like you, often point out the drawing of a wasp or a colonist. Well yeah. I guess it will come from where's Massachusetts and unique met. We didn't he burned down. You look little whitish yeah who, better than you, represent your people? If you don't know white people- yes, yes, language April, yeah, you're, the guy white people in America, as you will haimaires Hollywood, you know you're no pauper, I've seen your house. If you did, you wouldn't be saying that if I may reparations

this is what is anybody? I am no Cambridge, Whitney DOW and I didn't just pop into people's movie screens and on stages and in theatres out over the world. an origin story. We all origins stories and wars, stories are how you live. They don't hopefully determine who you are there about the stories we tell ourselves and I guess story shape our present reality and I think that's where every story starts. Every good story is between reality in Miss like what's possible, telling the truth will you setting a pretty high bar that you and I are going to get to the truth. Everybody lives different truce. I think your truth is mixed with La La thank exe. The hell. Are you talking to me personally, Erika or collectively as the White Guy here both reparations, it's a complicated issue.

And I'm not sure if I'm the right person to tell the story with you Erika, I might be to white ma- am extra black. An extra crispy black out. What does that offsets over my whiteness? Is that what you say? No, no! No! You! While you wait, you get away with it. any my problematic coattail on you blackness, who, by the way this is a conversation. If we're going to go on this journey about reparations it ain't about ouch. No, you would say it is about you, but I'm here it's charge. You hear me I'm here to rescue my people in the last time I checked, we just got a new black woman VP. So right now feel like a nothing too big for me and if not, you win

He then who step up. If we're going to do this, we ve gotta make a plan for government experts. We got. You know, find people who actually know what they're talking about close your eyes and make a wish count to three hit ass calmly, ass jack. Suddenly, that's congressional hearing on HR, forty jubilee, two thousand nineteen America is a place that welcomes the diversity of thought. We even welcome the diversity of thought among the Multi College, chocolate people that our african Americans did you hear that Indians, the color chocolate? You see how she got down on all girl as a lawyer, if we were to pay reparations today, we would only divide the country further about turn on you, like MR caliber reparations by definition, are only given the victims. Victims in hard milk is sent up release both to say I keep you permission

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Is on Wall Street between Pearl and water, streets and market, that auction enslaved people of african ancestry is established by a common council law on November 30th, one thousand seven hundred and eleven. This is New York, missable slave market sign but you can look up from this site, see Trinity Church and you can see the New York Stock Exchange and our nation of it all Americans every gets a two by two plaque. I've been here before This is the first time I'm saying this: some low pissed off I dont know why it's not more prominent. I don't know why. I just decide. Look, there's a big o stack,

George Washington, over their big buildings that we talked about with stones would like it to be here in this. Look like it be between knocked over by hard win. How does it make you feel thinking about all this you're visibly upset you're shaking shaking upset. I mean I really wish. I could read that sucker out, it's worth it being there and they also man, because I am familiar with their people walking through their immigrants got it

when they got all their families, they should be able to see it. There should be the stain of it in New York or should have to live with it. They should have to learn about it. They should be confronted with it. I want them to really acknowledge slavery. I want them to give us justice black people, what justice we deserve it. We should have a highly means necessary. A part of that justice is that you should not be able to come and work by a slave market marker and not be moved by fort bees have to reckon with it all see that was so brutal being there were the Erika, some annoy care about and seen This reaction, the pain that it caused you to be their left me feeling cut a helpless. I know that if I'd been alone, if I'd been thereby myself, I would find some way to push myself away from it and the absurdity of it and just kind of intellectual eyes.

Where being there with you forced me to honour to bed, but that's my problem, not yours. What is your problem and black people's burden to bear? gave you money and paid the Vigo in your low needs bootstraps when they ve got friends like you with me, that's what I mean early when I said your truth is filled with a lot of lies. These realities, they short for me every day yeah, well, you're under water thinking. You're real estate has value what I'm thinking about it. Regions and I really believe the only way to a true reconciliation is to create a funded reparations programme. And White America's F decide if they want to rise with black Americans or fall with them at sea. Whitney down you do is you are here, you are working on it you're talking about it, but don't expect parade props for showing up to clean up the mess.

you ve made. It is a big mess and Erika you told me in the past that you feel like James Ball, Norton, Hussy, coaches, that you don't really believe you don't really have faith that white people are the ability to change. I told understand that, if I were black, I imagine I would feel the exact same way specially. Looking at the events, the last you know few weeks and we ve had three or four thousand white people storm in the cap. but all in all its horrible. Those images were just like atrocious, but at the same, time we ve. Also Millions of white people in the street marching alongside black and brown people protesting police violence. So that does make me look optimistic. I hope it is sound We need that. I do believe we can change right. Maybe I feel like a kind of have to believe we can change

in Evanston Illinois things are changing. I've noticed Reparation Robin and Rosa Parks. Now, so that's different. How bout that She's, a rock star, four hundred years after the first enslaved Africans got off the aldermen Robin Ruse, Simmons Peasant first Reparations bill in America, oh man and talk about the long arc we got Keep an eye on her. We will, but I will say something first, so Erika tell me: what do you see here? What are we would worry, walking up to we're doing an ELM street in its is african burial ground. Way, so the brilliant federal building, a two hundred

fifty six million dollar building when they broke ground off? They discovered this burial ground. What does that say here? Changing landscape obscures the past african burial ground was labeled negroes burial ground. On this one thousand seven hundred and fifty five map. It right. Colonial New York laws, banned african funerals in officially consecrated graveyards, prohibited gatherings of large numbers of enslaved Africans and decreed that funerals had to be held daylight and the less Africans and their descendants help. YO ceremonies in cemetery outside the city wall near a ravine as New York City, expanded northeast burial ground, was closed in one thousand seven hundred and ninety four, and eventually divided into lots for sale. The land was filled in in buildings were constructed on top for almost two centuries New York City's growth obscure the waves and the african burial ground was nearly forgotten till we tried to put a Starbucks

It's a metaphor right. The foundation is African Americans, Americans, both on top of it. They turn their burial ground into real estate, but that foundation was paid for less bait for blood gets suffering. I think fifty percent of the people buried here were children, so we talk about reparations for work and value created, but why bout reparations for all the people that were destroyed by fifty percent of it is children, the people who actually never had a happily So this is showing the levels of different centuries and what they built on top of those coffins the diagram.

Ground level right, yeah, work, ground level, so that on top there's three different centuries in the lowest right here at least seventeen hundred people were buried in individual coffins up to three deep. But that looks exactly like the slave ship diagrams coming across that's interesting from Africa, so they went out like they came in ass, a cold cold. Let's walk up to the next marker, This one is says Africans in early New York before American Revolution York had more enslaved Africans, its most valuable commodity, that any other colony the north you leave out. The most important thing here is not that these people were

here they say and they give an account of their work. Women sold, cooked arvest, didn't care for owners, children, laborers, tour of cobblestone streets, dug trenches, laid and join the pipe sections and filled in the trenches pay one dollar a day and slave workers. Wages went to there nurse s real. Yes, and you know what the real one of the reasons why the slave market was established on a Wall Street was because There were so many enslaved Africans here and the actual way. The lay report restructured structured, wasn't really stretch their descending people out in the street. Like earn money and they want a sort of like codified to something more struggle by the way? This whole thing is about white fear. Yeah, you should be fucking afraid, because if we ever get what we deserve and if we ever start to balance those books, there are no stopping

and it's over. It's not just a rebounding of America is the black nation coming into its own. So yet I try to various two to black too strong. Eighteen. Ninety is dollar seventy. Ninety four, an estimated fifteen thousand enslaved and Africans were laid to rest and african beverage. Fifteen thousand bodies are here in burial mounds marked the locations of three tournaments there are they are over here? So this? Is it look at the mounds here? Oh my god, not to me. This is significant. Mega look at that was it make you feel to stand here. Look at Well, I'm very proud, I'm glad to see them, and I don't know I can't comfort from them being here. Here need my lunch with them, but do you think it's funny because You know you look over the stone and it's all represent

No. This is so much more concrete. These are real barrel mouths, knowing that the remains lying beneath it and knowing that there are in a certain way with their heads facing Africa, things beautiful! It's beautiful. I just want to say how happy I am to be the black affect network hosting reparations. The big pay back with my friend Eric Alexander. We ve had a lot of impact for gas who have helped me see the world in new and complex ways. Now the difficult subject and activists, artists, writers and thinkers who have visited our show have voices and messages that need to be heard and share. I've seen first and listening leads to change, and eighty anti understands this too, from time their customers have been saying that it isn't fair for new customers to get better deals in existing customers. We the eighteen t start listening, and they made a big change that eighty

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should apply to everyone and not just in fairy tales. Good thing shouldn't only favour the few eighty anti gets this, so they making a big change and giving all their customers, both new and existing. The same great deals. This is huge whether you ve been with eighteen tee for years or you just starting to think about switching visit, http dot com, slash best deals to learn more restrictions apply, Andy she'll rise again: hey, you know they give tours of this stuff, who black Gotham thirty books totally worth definitely I buy several tickets. I got to take my mom and show her all these hidden gems, cuz she's agreeable in the family, man to shame cuz. I matter how hard she work with me,

wasn't enough and she won't live to see a new world that created through the application of reparations, so like the Africans underneath those buildings gonna be beyond her flesh and bone. But that means it's fertile ground. It's very fertile, my mother's, in fact less than a highly favoured, will really strikes me about it, Erica's that it's called the Afghan burial ground, but it's not just african history, its way. History too and its history, its Laird across generations, and it's not just about what happened before haven't hundred years You can also seen it how its impacted in today and how you and I, how our own families living within the legacy of slavery, like it, it a member Philly, copper, my sister's social worker. They worked within the racist system. we're talking about every day. You know that's how they make their living and weird parties is systematic reformation.

Needed and reparations is part of the cure. We have to get ready because there is a whole lot of black folks that are baked into the current market sure in England get out something it's rough ride. It would disrupt everything, so we gotta be careful. What we wished for do no harm. Maybe we need to step up our current reality. Rhythm barber says that we are in the third reconstruction, so we need this. Is our opportunity to map out a blueprint to charge any destiny. To decide who are builders are, Architects are machinist. You will probably, if you arsonists, going to tear some things down along the way, but first we need vision, imagination. You mean a re imagining

change. Oh, it's amazing. What a good composition as a ok, I'm ready big. Well, let's be real. You always do your best beginning. I hope I'm ready here. I hope I bought a black power by This season reparations the big pay back didn't have a lot of skills. I was bad student. I was kind of this historic trawler got thrown out of schools. I was always going to fight that's why you to raise work because you were mediocre white man the weapon what you're saying I beheld everywhere else, a race to me and I made a career out of it, and that is why we need this region's possum. What we have to define revelations, some people the five regulations as a give me a chance? That's not

revelations. They treat us like animals more or less like human beings. We are the ones who our lives, building this country and get paid, not one dime for, but everybody else is reaping the benefits. That's happened. My life revolves primarily around my discovery that my ancestors were the largest slave trading family. In: U S history! When I looked at your Wikipedia, my God brother, you not play if you like the job, those of the aristocratic the inspiration for me, abrasions. I know that the injustice and discrimination and racism is a shared problem, but which has to be confronted if we're going move on successfully together I fundamentally different. If I was black, his is the core of who you are. Everyone has a bird, it's how you handle a burden, and so I truly don't feel that there is the privilege.

Whatever was we will stay there and suddenly the window shatters the police, who told me that he was trying to kill some black bird, meaning my children, who were standing at the window had it not been for us. I will pay windows. Probably I would add that morning lost two of my children. If I had enough money to ease the disparities and enough programmes directed rub by black people to help us then I would. It may well not have camel heresy. Vice president, what goes you playlist reparations famous or what play for my students it and its of the? When will we get paid this I'd gases produced by Eric Alexander than our non and witty gap. The executor producer

our Charlemagne, the God and Dolly S, Bishop, the super as in producers, Nicole childhood, in the lead produced Devon Matter. Grovelling to produce writers, Cerise castle and the associate producers Kevin fan with additional research support provided by now blast original music by Dj Gdp? preparations, the big pay back as the production of color farm media, Iheart, radio and the black Effect Podcast network in association with best case studios for more podcast from Iheart Radio the eye heart. Radio app apple podcast, wherever you listen to your favorite, shows I'm Eric Alexander host of reparations to big pay back. I just want to say how happy I am to be on the black affect network. I got a chance to meet all sorts of fantastic guests who had amazing points of view led to different changes in my own life and we will

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