It works. There's one solution, nobler there's, not a second solution now and now. Reverend also now informed apocalypse. Never was Michael, sober, goose book that that and now informed Great Britain's, not just on board. With no clear but aggressively aggressively onboard. so I asked this question provocatively. I said: is it a coincidence that everything I persuade on goes? My way is not because I caused it it's because I could tell what which way things are going to go right now. I did, of course, try to influence as much as possible march. Nine.

Was a big part of informing me so that I can for mothers and utter enough. You know, but a number of people of Congress follow me on Twitter. Did you know that there are quite a few people in the news business and in Congress who follow me on twitter, and so I bet informing basically use using what I knew from Martian, either from Microsoft, member to communicate the safety and the necessity of nuclear energy but I think it was my power of persuasion that made the difference. I obviously was shown burger me the big difference. Martian everything been a big difference, but I think we were. It was inevitable. I basically per something I couldn't go any other way. There was only one way this could go. It was a matter of how much time As soon as people were brought up to speed information wise, There was only one way was gonna go so when I

she can t say: is it a coincidence that everything I try to influence goes my way? It's not because I influence that necessarily, maybe I did banana cell is because I'm good taking things that are gonna. Go that way anyway, and we give you another example: One of my earliest efforts for influence was getting smoking in public places and out of and of offices. So I put a lot of work. that wasn't that going to go my way anyway, I mean really. Do you think that smoking was always going to be allowed indoors? No, no! I just knew it was obvious, which way was going to go. I threw in that direction. Maybe I made some difference. Maybe not, but it was more like action is easy to predict the inevitable. Likewise other persuasion that I've been very involved in.

Was the right to die, have a doctor assisted death, so in California that past? That was the law. And I persuaded very hard on that topic, but again. wasn't gonna, go that way anyway, really feel like. I just picked the topic. There was going in the right direction. So just keep that in mind, but I like pulling out their causes provocative. Here is a question I gotta quiz you to see your general knowledge of a very important fact about covert ready. If you get this fact right, If you get the right answer, then I would say that your opinion about vaccinations might be credible because a music, you know more than other people.

So here is the test we can see if you have, if you know enough to have a good opinion about vaccinations, here's the quest. Do vaccinations cause more variants like the delta? Now the delta came before the vaccinations, but do the vaccinations cause more or could they cause more variants? Look at the answers that are streaming by an on each EU platforms, we're seeing a mixture of nose and yes, I See that the mixture is pretty mixed for any mixed single audiences bussing, a lotta knows now help. You have an opinion on vaccinations. Unless you know this pray, important business.

How many of you have heard of the chicken vaccinations There is a study that shows that the vaccinations for the chickens for some chicken disease actually did according to a study, did increase the varies How many of you are aware that study. Are you aware of the study about the chickens and how their vaccinations increased the number of areas? Because that's what is always tweeted being when I bring up the topic, so if you're not on twitter, maybe you ve never seen it, but What would you say there is a study, and He says that, where they vaccinated the chickens and increase the variants, so let's say that was true. Now this study you'd, want to see some more studies and etc

but what s true will say believe it does that if it's true does that tell you something about the corona virus vaccine? it's true for chickens. I want all add something else, something the chicken vaccination is also leaky just like the corona virus. One leak, meaning that even when you are vaccinated, you can still get it. You just won't die so that both leaky does the fact that you know the chicken Vexedly vaccination must say you do know that cause more variance. Is that is. Does that mean that you had the same risk with a groan of ours? Go see in the comments this vaccine isn't as novels. You can compare that. That is a correct answer. I'm looking for something else, but that is it a good comment. Yeah you can't compared they're just different technologies and sir,

We're not compared to natural immunity, now drop that topic for now chickens are now humans. Of course, remember we're talking about the logic of it. When we talk about the logic of it is the logic that, if your vaccines stops, the virus that the only ones that can get out the of the bad ones. The variants that escapes the vaccinations coverage. the spade comments as selecting for a specific protein to target, which is what we do with growth of earth, increases the probability it could cause mutations. I haven't heard that before, but I don't know that's true but add that to your questions. All right, here's what I believed was true what I believe.

It is that the more virus, the more variants anybody. Does anybody goon, not the more filters but more virus to me, if he had a billion times more viruses, they be just naturally mutating all over the place, and some of them would be stronger like the delta. It would take over. But suppose only one person in the world was ever in fact it will just take the extreme Only one person in the world has ever been infected without one person create just as many variants as if a billion people were. In fact the answer is no: now a billion people infected create more variants,

more virus. So if you are a vaccine was not leaky. Would you have a problem? If you vaccine is not leaky, give somebody's vaccination and they're just out of the game, are taken completely out of the game because they won't get it and they won't you if it's not legally, but our vaccines are leaky so that case, do they cause more varens or fewer. Well, let me tell you about the chicken vaccination take the case of the chicken vaccination does tell you something I think about the corona virus. Vaccination. It does tell you something and its important, except that it tells you the opposite of what you think. There's a problem with the chicken virus, Completely different opposite really from Verona virus. What is a thing? Everybody says about grown virus dammit. It only kills less than one percent of people get it and most of them all

right. So Corona viruses a virus that kills almost nobody percentage was still a lot of people numberless the chicken virus. Would have killed all the chickens fairly quickly, so without a vaccine the chicken virus basically just takes out the chicken so they give the chicken a vaccine, but then it can still get the virus. and now the chicken that would have been dead and couldn't spread is a check this very much alive and spreading like a mother fucker. They study about the chickens proves the opposite point the people were Sunday. Let me think what they think is that it shows that vaccinations cause more variants, What really shows is that if you have or a virus. Everywhere you get more variants because

is vaccinated. Chickens are just full of virus almost as if they had not been vaccinated and in the classic way. So keeping chickens alive, so they can spread virus like crazy causes, more variants because more virus because there's more virus, so the more virus, the more variance it probably isn't. Because of these acts, I'm not gonna corona virus. You get a vaccination for grown. The virus is the vaccination that cause you to live longer now, the thing that cause you to live longer is that a groan virus doesn't kill you in the first place. We accept lesson one percent so where the chicken virus kept chickens alive. There would have otherwise not spread. Does it would have been dead? The corona virus doesn't keep anybody alive as a percentage. Ok, I should put them in a

absolute as a percentage of people with growth, a virus, its trivial does the people die or less than one percent. That makes sense that the corona virus doesn't change. The number of people who were virus accepted reduce it because we know what we do know that if you get the vaccination you'll be spreading, it firm less fewer days. So probably the vaccination creates the krona virus crazed less infected people, whereas the chicken virus created more, in fact, the chickens litter the opposite, so the chicken virus is opposite of what you should learn from krona virus. Just remember, this more virus means more variants. Keeping chickens alive, creates more virus keeping people alive.

doesn't change anything because they we're gonna be alive anyway, except for that less than one percent has my argument. now remember. Another virologist Hosty knew. That Most of you know, I'm not a biologist, but the person Lube first said this is a biologist So the opinion I'm giving you has no credibility because his coming for me, but now I'm gonna drop the bomb on you. It came from somebody, you actually knows the field, I'm just Now I don't know what the general consensus is, but I know that one expert said exactly what I just said in the innocents: more virus, Muse Barbarians and that's the end of it. More virus is more variants period, so just look for wherever there's, moreover, virus or methods, so that brought once team I'm seeing this the comments.

is that the virus forces evolution, nor does it doesnt force evolution. The vile, Brussels is creating variants at exactly the same rate, no matter what doesnt force anyone evolution. What it does is, let things escape does let things escape, but something's again escape anyway, so I think said was me just say this Breton. So highly educated and I think in even in the correct feels largely speaking. Luke says now. Scott knows more about biology than the bread, Wednesday seiners. Biology expert now I'm just tell you that somebody who does have the right expertise disagrees with him and I am repeating that argument now.

What credibility should you put on my discussion of the variants? Love love. You should put too much I believe what I said, but I am, I am trying to present the argument in a way that we should go figure out what's wrong with it, so all. I've added to it is the notion that more virus equals more variants with no exception, and that's that's something you can fact check to know. Ask your experts is that right or more virus just always means more effective or variance. So just boil it down to that, and then let's go to fact check because couldn't Bret Weinstein be right, that the vaccinations are somehow promoting or causing variance. He could be.

Definitely could be. I wouldn't know, but now you have a question: does more variants more virus caused more variants? Where does more or does more blocking cause? More varies, good question. Russia's facts really resistance.

I read your comment, but I don't wanna mention that when I learnt that is pretty much what I wanted to tell you today letter the guy. I pleased gives gotTa Jordan Petersen Intervention and save boo. What is your invaders elite? An intervention was the difference between observation and empirical evidence. Well, I think level of rigour empirical evidence,

I suggest that you tried to collect the organised fashion, whereas anecdotal just means your sort ran into a lot on other Jordan Petersen. These any interventions, you seems to be a man, yes, a medical problems, but I can't help on anybody. Thank you for that. You, like my assistant story yesterday, a strange. What's this. Better carry says: Brett agrees with your statement, leaving the statement that more virus means more varies. There right so yeah. I guess I guess I guess I should the more careful with my response to that

I dont know exactly what brats opinion is on this, so I shall try to characterize it and then talk about it. If I. The details so just assume everything I said about that is low credibility. Why are we vertical today because. So there's a weird locals: I guess it bugger baby a design flaw. It would be hard to explain why it has to do with the fact that the only workers in the comments and also have you in the right or intention is to have two screens the only way I can see the comments as if I tweet and then I got a twitter and open it and that it takes me to write place. Otherwise I can't find it could, but I don't want to do it life, what you're waiting at the soldiers to interface, oddity that makes it difficult if you're pressed for time.

He has a number of very it doesn't matter it just matters if you get about, please read Steve curses analysis on the vaccines for balanced analysis mines very balanced. Do you think that my my taken? The vaccines is not balanced. The reason you hate me well, those This is because, as balanced, I don't they get away as more balanced opinion. I do. so he says I'm not balanced. Obey these apple, their not being balanced on the vaccination, be more specific on open to there being true by the way, I'm not deny it, but I'm asking for a specific second see if I can agree with you cause.

I'm trying to be balanced. It seems to lean towards prove acts for sure. Let me pushed back on that. So I think that's where this is coming from. People think that I speak more about things that are prove acts. I believe you would would agree with that. I think I wanna canoe to democracy that there? I say more things that are products by their nature than antibiotics. I, that too that so that would be an observation that I think is just objectively true, Does that mean that I'm unbalanced? Is it among balanced. If I talk more about one side zau that works is by how much time you spend. Does that does matter if you spend more time on something people do get the feeling that that that means more to

But what, if? What is the information is biased in one direction?. Obviously official information is biased in one direction. If, if I talked about every claim on the internet that is not accepted by general science, then there would be maybe even more content. backs when you do that. If I, if I addressed every claim that this anti backs you're talking more about anti back stuff, then Prozac stuff. Do you think there are a lot of claims on twitter that are empty, now. What is the reason that I don't talk about them? What what? What is it about my approach that causes me to talk less about the many many claims of vaccination? Some

Says lack of knowledge, I would argue that I see. All of that is people want descended to me. People are trying to change my mind, or at least my approach, and people are sending me the entire vat stuff just all day long. I've seen I've seen a lot of it. So I think I think I'm well informed about what the entire acts peoples, and what do you think that I don't talk matters much? How deeply read it fairly? Did I mean as deep as area and other stuff? I don't. I don't think I skim it. My skin overwhelm you don't bring analogy of yet does it just gets us off track, explain that

women for eighty. Why don't you eighty is what defined eighty consulted defined? Eighty for me, what is it the interventions for you. Scott people hear you say you don't want to persuade them to take the shot, but still Were things away the fields to them? You actually are. How can I avoid that? How can I avoid wording in a way that you think I'm talking you into it? If the data leads that way,.

should I should I not only in the same direction as the official data. Would it be untied dependent enhancement, entire body, dependent enhancement, meaning what I mean a northwards me, but why? Why should I be talking about them? So yeah something that island. Thank you exactly. I try to lean towards credibility, meaning that. the official the official responses as wrong as they ban the affair. Science about code as wrong as spam, Hence our higher credibility yo until they changed their minds. There.

Things. Are you hear about in a in some twitter linked to an article I guess I attraction so I waited for the scientists to tell me which of the other things I should pay attention to. Add you give to little weight to various. I do give. I give. Why were you here so somebody said I give to little weight to theirs If you watch this entire livestock, whom do you say that's true or false, I give to little weight to various viruses. Were a reports of bad comes up I just had a whole discussion where I said. I agree with you that the number of reports of bad outcomes is alarming and conflicts conflicts with and actually hurts. The credibility of the scientific been, as I said, that is key-

million directly, as you could possibly said, and the various databases justly the obvious example of those reports. But it doesn't have to be Vera's cuz I asked on twitter and tons of people say yeah I got a friend I got to find a new friend. Scott. Would you call Joe Rogan for a chat? I don't think he and I are the right ones for that Chad Abalone limit. Let me say this: I dont know how often jargon has multiple gas for, like a panel discussion alpha. He does that model. But if you dead there are better people than meat, but I don't think I'm the right person to them. It would be entertaining, but it wouldn't it wouldn't be. Is.

useful. As you wanted me so he says I got vaccine because of Scots discussion and by doctors advice will. I hope your doctors advice was a little bit a little bit waited more than mine. Wide ban on I've been on Joe Roads programme. So if you google, it you can find it He doesn't multiples on, but not multiples were different size right as

a red people were on different sides of a debate on this. At the same time, I'm saying yes, I don't think I've ever seen- one! Oh yes, if you don't have, that would be the perfect situation, although he's on Spotify, so he's he's out beyond the pale and be better not be behind a table. Yet a tin pour would be server, good choice where I think I'd be a good choice, but I'll have the wherewithal to set it up. I mean I do have the wherewithal, but I don't have the time an interest rate in spite of fires free. Why are you saying spoke first,

Are you saying that his programme on satisfies me? That's not true, as it were, my missing something important is not a pay, while always just adds really another. I don't you specify so Spotify is not a subscription services. Just got ads. the reason I didn't have Spotify. Maybe I should give it well. Thank you, This is that this is an example again of a new kind of intelligence. In real time you watch my mind, be changed and the use of a few times this kind of cool. Isn't that that we, we are collectively like a single single, rational entity. It just takes all of you to correct me on a regular basis together body,

tell me what about sit and watch the episode with Doktor Gupta complete. I didn't write, so there's no ads if you have a subscription and spot. If I look at it makes sense, Alex's God can imagine, be married to this guy. I assume you talk about me right well,. That was my phone. My phone just said. I'm not sure I understand, while I do understand so he said imagined be married to that guy you're, not wrong. Imagine being married me, it's no picnic. Let me see right about that.

What I hope is the right one: stone verses, undress echoes no, I would not always them were just the two of them now possess nothing. To the the one you want are because both of them were kind of credit. Both of them are sceptics, I would say sceptic of different. things. But I want somebody was a believer and at least one sceptic and then something you can do some fact checking. So you you are the three people. One of them just a fact, tracker, the two been another size of the issue, so that would be the ideal model and then maybe up one moderator seen for people moderator, Pussy, It was our skin actually lost faith. Anything you want to make everything You want to do a little.

Do a little love, persuasion, experiment. Whoever just settler, we call you answer to exploring so user Twix bar over the locals platform, just just as Canada says three plus host, and I branding. So, let's see if we can make three plus host a model. The people understand as the best model now corset, Those will often violate them while less. If we use a guess, I'm really do it three plus one the plus one is housed and the three hour. One to size of an issue and then a fact checker who doesn't seem to be associated with either and then a host looking

keep it all straight and then here's the last part last bar is not a timed event or if it's time to a lot of time it could be three hours, but you don't want a five minute, yet it can't be again just be something it its efforts. Hannah Dear something is, is gonna be his own show? It can't be an absolute and somebody else's show will have enough time. So I say for make that happen. Three plus one is the model three plus oust, and only one fact, two people on opposite sides and the host the host does a good job of moderating and making sure the fact facts gets under what let's make anything less if somebody can do one of them and then no matter how it works. Then we will find the model may be the first one is in so good wages refine the model based on what you learn. Oh Ben Shapiro,.

yeah there's lots of people you can think of who have the platform. So. There is the first thing we need. We did the platform and the host, The guess, I think, would be the easy part who dairyman Dave Ruben I think he has all the technical wherewithal, which is what you need. You need to three screens and and the organization of an all lets the stuff I can. I don't have the time to do, but Dave Reuben. When you watch Dave Reuben now I will make with all with all respect to day Reuben by the what, by the way they Reuben is one in my examples of the talents that guy he's got alike. a bunch of talents that just work together perfectly obvious career as a role model in terms of how to make someone work really does a great job of combining talents to make something special

Part of his tell us back is that he's agreeable and people like him. I dont know, I think you need. Somebody is a little bit more of a bastard for the push back a little bit more of a bastard. I do not think you go full bastard does you can lead to shut down both of the experts but a different times, and maybe even the fact you see eating ass ever. Wrong, like a dictators, hand so well, or that didn't make any sense now I worry that Dave is to nice. Because he usually doesn't have ears and wishes not a lot of conflict, but maybe maybe I mean if, if you wanted to do it, he'd be a great platform for it. Cuz he's got a big platform so Dave. If you're listening to this- and somebody probably tell you if you're not listening,

thus a challenge to you. If you can put this together and be tough on them or alternately, guess somebody would be so. Maybe you just as you, the the host doesn't mean to be the moderator, so the three plus one doesn't have to be the most? Those could just introduce it and say Eureka my programme, but you have taken away secular network by they gave, could do it. I just don't know if he wants to be the one to be that much of the bastard. You need a bastard like I'd be good at it. Because I'm a bastard, Michael Malice sort of it should be good salvage could do it, maybe curls, So the problem is you're gonna find somebody who is also well informed, so being a bastard isn't enough

You need to also be well informed. Divorce EP, crowded Garfield, market other ago Mark Livin, ok, there's. So let us just take that, as of our example, Mark live in you see well informed Pierre is, the military aspect platform. Yes, could he be a bastard? Yes, I mean that in a complementary way, yet he could only begbie

turbo. Somebody said no more. I accept that the market be a bastard again in the best way. You just have to be a bastard sometimes and shut people down and challenging to polarizing somebody says: maybe I'm probably two polarizing. Do you do it from Reuben Studio? I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. If we want to do, I don't know it needs to be the studio, but neither Cyrus good good suggestion, SAM Harris, actually that's my dream: do right there, my dream team would be not even me doing my dream team would be SAM heiress doing

They pretty good because, I think Semira says the intellectual weight, as well as the ability to change his mind, which is rare, as I think he can do you go to them. I don't off, he could be enough in the basket from what do you think consumers be enough of a bastard to make that work. You probably need somebody. Well, let levy revise it. I think SAM for all the strength of his sort of intellectual approach to things might not fit the bastard host model as closely as possible. Give me the bastard host right I'll talk to you long. I got to go and I will talk to you all later.