Bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump? Hey San Diego, Hey Jeff, come on in here gather round, uh Erin and Tyler. I hope you've all got your coffee. Bugs your is your containers, your cops and I hope it's filled with your favorite beverage. Your coffee is your teacher hot waters, your who knows what, because it's almost time for you, know what. Simultaneous up get ready here. It comes here. It comes. That's the good stuff one of the biggest stories

in the world right now in the whole world. Besides the hurricane, I won't talk to. About the hurricane 'cause there's wall all coverage, there's not much to say you know we're all thinking about the thinking about the victims, but there's not much to say about it, so I'm not going to be talking about that, but I'm not ignoring it either. Um Let's talk about the biggest story in the world, that's not that hurricane right now or the biggest story in the country. Did you hear it it was the big bombshell from the Woodward book. Listen to it! It's a big bombshell. I don't hear anything: oh that's right. It's the blank space again, the empty space, is the thing where you would expect to hear a story but where's the story, and here it is the non

so apparently Woodward was asked if in any of his investigations, he found that found any russian collusion. They said he had looked hard for it and didn't find any well, obviously, Woodward cannot dig as deeply as you know the law enforcement we know. So what word is that the final word? But here's the thing Maybe you've had a similar experience. Starting in twenty? Sixteen, I have personally been treated by Anti choppers as part of the problem. And the biggest reason given at least in the beginning, two thousand and sixteen. This russian collusion stuff. And I was pretty sure there was nothing there but

the people who were mad at me in math president and mad about Hillary, losing So sure it was true that they could see it. That they didn't need Muller to investigate. They could just see it it was in the news that had something to do with. Don Juniors meeting had something to do with Manta for What are the odds that you know that Papadopoulos did this and what are the odds that there would be all this FBI investigation so too big of the country that hating on me personally and proud. Most of you. They could just see it. It was Their molar was just going to tie the loose ends together and get a little extra. Wrap it up into a

little impeachment slash prosecution ball, but you, but the fact of it was just obvious You know who it wasn't obvious to the most famous investigative journalists in the United States who looked into it and looked really hard, looked really hard to find the thing that people on. Let's say his site say is obvious. An investigative journalist wrote a whole book who spent a lot of time investigating this very thing that people said it's right, there is obvious and he didn't find Ohio. I almost did the zero sign, which would have been bad because you can't do that anymore. Think about that now,

Does anybody owe me an apology. I would say. Yes, I say that I am owed by. A large number of people. A really big apology now, of course, We can still wait until Muller. Does his thing keep in mind that whatever Muller comes up with, is going to be in the category of something that no he saw because every can we see so far according to Woodward amounts to zero in terms of russian collusion, So I believe, I'm already owed an apology because you could say about anybody. Well, you know if you look hard enough, maybe find something, but we haven't found it yet. That would just be a true statement about every single rich person, every politician etc,

And you know, I can't predict the future. But so far a mode, an apology, because the the anger and hatred that people felt tord me and most of you, I think, yeah, I'm speaking for all of you. I think most of you anyway, that anger was based on what they thought was obvious and now Woodward has done- a good job, apparently of Knowing that there's nothing obvious now Only is there nothing obvious, but if you're, and you've got all kinds of sources, and you can dig pretty hard and you've got. Millions of dollars in the line. You probably have you team of assistance, yeah you can go, really deep if you're Woodward and there was nothing there- nothing absolutely nothing. Why isn't that the biggest story? Why

isn't that the headline. Well, of course you know the answer right today. I saw him Fox news dot com? The Dalai Lama has said that the european refugees should go home I'll? Just let that let those sit there for awhile the Dalai Lama has. That in public the things the the refugees streaming into Europe should go home. Now. Let me clarify because- I'm mischaracterizing what he said, but I'm not inaccurate, so did say exactly that, but if you want the extra contacts, and you should he's saying that the europeans- Treat them humanely accept them, feed them, educate them

and then, when they're, you know, when things are better, they should go home to help help their home country become a better place. So the Dalai Lama is in favor of humane and generous treatment of the refugees, but His body is saying: let's make this temporary because change in Europe. They should go back and change their own home once once. That's a possibility so Now, when people say. Are you are you supporting the president's policies on immigration. Now you can say well I'm I'm somewhere between the Dalai Lama and President, I'm in that range you know 'cause. Holly, most of you are if you would like humane treatment of everybody of people.

Right. I've never heard anybody who was against. Humane treatment of people I don't know that that's the thing so, If you were to ask me where is my opinion of immigration, I would say it's not exactly. Dalai Lama's opinion, but it's pretty close. So, instead of saying that I agree with Republicans or agree with Jeff sessions or agree with Trump, I'm just going to say I'm pretty close to the Dalai Lama, which is I believe that you can have unrestricted gigantic refugee flows without some consequences that you didn't so so maybe there's a way to you know make everybody happy. And the Dalai Lama seems like a kind person.

So I agree with them. We should treat everybody humanely to the degree that we we have the resources and and stuff, but there's, certainly a level of immigration that doesn't work for the receiving I was just in there yet. Just in an online twitter? She was somebody who was anti trump etc, and rather than arguing. I was just asking questions about I was their point of view. Would play out. So It was somebody who was soft on immigration, and my question was, you know what would be the limit on integration view. Would it be unlimited, He said no, not unlimited, and I said well. If you're against unlimited open borders. Bye.

They are also against being tight on the borders. Doesn't that ring. Are you to give an opinion How many people, let's say per year, is ok and the person I was talking to It looked like he was trying to avoid that question. But that's the only question if you said don't be a hard at the border, but also don't just completely open the borders. That's, not an opinion, is it the opinion simply two things you don't want. You don't want the extra An open border, you don't want to stop. Stop people by being a hard task, especially if they come with families etc. But you haven't really given opinion. If you just don't like those two extremes, you have to pick. Something in between. Otherwise, you haven't given me your opinion. So I said what about forty million

would forty million people, let's say over just a few years, be too much? And neither of them the subject, gets change that sort of thing. So this gives me to a a bigger question. I want to talk about. You've noticed that Trump supporters, Republicans in general are often two as low information voters. You heard that right Trump supporters are low information voters, but here's a test I want you to give yourself, when you're talking with other people? I find this to be consistently true. And I'll give you a few examples I was talking to someone who didn't identify as an anti trumper, but in the context it was obvious. So I said well take.

Take, for example, Charlottesville. And I was explaining how it was reported that the president said both sides were good were fine people and it was reported that he meant that included the whites. Services were fine people and I said to him. Well, you know that's just not what happened wow, what happened. Is the president said they were fine people on both sides of the statue question because the whole event was around the statue to keep the confederate statue or do you not and so when I told him this, it was clearly the first time he had ever heard that interpretation forget about whether he agreed with it disagreed with it. It was the first time he had heard that interpretation,

How many of you have never heard that interpretation before that both sides? was clearly and obviously about both sides of the statue thing, because the alternative explanation, the news is presented to you. The anti Trump news is the President, the United States, consciously and intentionally sided with white supremacy on the same week they killed somebody that didn't happen. It would be Crazy to think that happened and then further having done it in there telling of the event further after having done something that crazy. Like a day later or whatever it was few days later. I don't remember, verified that he does not support white supremacist, just as he is clarified, fifty five times in the past or whatever the number is now that's a crazy interpretation.

My interpretation that, as the president, he was hey, let's well, calm down, let's, let's agree that bad behavior. Bad behavior, no matter what and there are good sides, they're good people on both sides of the statue question. Not all sides, meaning white supremacists. My interpretation is completely normal and consistent with the fact, Now we don't have to agree who's right. My point is he had never heard that interpretation, but you both interpretations right. So wouldn't it wouldn't that make you the high information voter in this case let me give you the other one the same person, and I was talking about the accusation that the president made fun of service co will, I can't remember his name.

Reporter, who had the the genetic problem with his arm, and I said You've probably seen the video that it was reported, as fact that the president was making fun of somebody's bad arm. They said, but have you seen all the videos in context where he makes the same or similar hand, motions about other people and it's just the way he makes fun of dumb people. And he had not. How many of you have seen, videos. Showing that he often does that same gesture and it's not about people without arms. Probably most of you, when you say I'll bet, most of you have seen that he not so? I had seen his point of view. I've seen my own point of view in your point of view but he had only seen his own point of view ever not once did he ever seen what

I described that I've seen lots of times so which one this was the lower formation voter all right, Let me give you another one talking about the kids in cages and Trump put put kids in cages, and that topic came up, and I I mentioned, but, of course that was also happening during Obama. You can, Will see his face, reboot. I've talked about this before when cognitive dissonance hits seven there's a very there's, an obvious facial Bodily change where the person just goes you know it's all. It's almost like you can see a almost like, Brain is rebooting and so I said, yeah Trump put more people in cages, then

Obama did, but Obama was putting kids in cages as well. It was the first time he'd. Consider that no, I couldn't tell if he never heard it, but he'd never considered it as uh. In part of the story. And then I further explain and you know that you eating the refugees. Most humane way create more refugees right, and I said you know that right that you would be increasing the number of refugees, and he hadn't really consider that and then I I said, and you know that the thinking is that if you have fewer refugees, In the long run, that means that there might be fewer children who are raped, but the trade off was you're having less child trafficking

less fewer children getting killed and and here's how I framed it. I said in the Trump administration if he took one hundred, let's say just any hundred kids: the trade off was putting a hundred kids separated from their parents, which year will get rid of my troll I'm hundred kids in cages which would have. I said it would have psychological effects, some of them would be bad and that that's a bad situation, so I agreed with him. The any kids in cages is just always a bad situation, doesn't matter how they got there right. But I said the alternative, and the only alternative that anybody could think of was in which more kids got raped and trafficked and killed so yes, it was a conscious decision that

We are having this impact on, say. One hundred kids put in cages helped two or three of them not be raped and killed, and that that was a conscious, tradeoff the person. I was We do- have never heard it framed that way. Had never heard that those were the two choices. Because the other choice which he sort of imagined was the good one. Is that you just let the families in can stay together which men releasing them because there weren't any facilities. And I said you realize that that would increase the amount of traffic and that- that your preferred solution would in fact have fewer kids in cages and that's good, but at the expense. Of two or three out of a hundred, maybe getting killed or raped. And I said, did you know that that was a trade off and he did not. He had not thought of it in those terms

he said he'd be open to listening to you. Maybe statistics that would be it back that up, but that's the argument. No, I to I too like your statistics, that back that up and I can easily be wrong. It could be, the number is zero would be raped. I don't know: well I'm no expert in this situation, but here's I knew his argument, but he I've never heard had never heard my argument. Which is largely the same as your argument, I'm sure so You can kind of go down the line. I think You can go down the line and you would find that the conservative

or completely aware of the argument on the left when you say. That's true fact check me on this. I mean as much as much as you can 'cause. These are. This is anecdotal but fact check me. Isn't it true that the right knows the arguments on the left and they, also know their own arguments. When you say that's true, I'm finding that It is massively true that the people in the land I have never even heard. The argument on the other side. When was the last time you heard some, have you ever have you ever heard anybody tell you what I just told you. Have you ever even heard anybody explain it and now keep your eyes. And see if it feels true to you there Can you see what are these big controversial situations,

do know what their argument is. You could disagree with it. You probably do, certainly know what the argument is, They don't even know what the argument is, on the other side, what's up with that all right, I'm my new book, I'm working on one, I'm talking about is how lots of times. You think that you have a difference of opinion with people and for all practical purposes. That's how it's playing out but lots of times the difference of opinion. Not what it looks like and here's what I mean there are people who because of their usually because of their career choices have been exposed to education on how to make decisions education on how to make decisions. I would say

sample? A scientist is someone who is trained in how to make decisions, because the whole scientific process, is about getting rid of the bias making sure you have all the information making sure that you've got a process. You know the scientific process to get rid of the the guesswork work at, um, so scientists have trained how to make decisions, Engineers have been trained to be objective and test things and make decisions as I was, are also trained to make decisions. We know how a. Compare things. We know how to look at the long term versus short, we know how to measure opportunity costs. We know how to do discount rates. So a and people of business degrees as well. Our people have been trained to make decisions,

Do you know what profession has not been trained to make decisions about? You do journalist Journalists, journalists are never trained in the in the the part of making decisions I would say, lawyers probably are. You could think of a few more examples of people who are trained in making decisions, and here here the mistakes that the untrained or making And don't know that they're making it because I've never learned to make decisions. When you and when I explain this, there's a little lights off with your head and a whole lot about what you're observing. Let me give you an example: I've talked about this before there are people anti trumpers who say

Trump did a bad job in Puerto Rico, with disaster relief. Anybody who says that is not trained in making decisions. Likewise, anybody who says the opposite of that any he says the Trump did: a great job of disaster, release relief in Puerto Rico, anybody who say that is also not trained in decision making because we don't have another Puerto Rico. To compare to. The only way you could tell if Trump in the Trump Administration did a good job or a bad job. Is N Korea. The only way you could tell but who's been trained in decision making will agree with me, anybody who has not been trained in decisionmaking will disagree with what I said because they're not trained here,

the point, if you don't have a control case to compare the performance, you can't make any determination Because there was no other president trying to save the other Puerto Rico at the exact same time, in the exact same situation compared to you know what President Trump did without that comparison. It is impossible for. We, the observers with what we know to know if was a good job or a bad job. It can't be known if you've never studied how to make decisions. You would imagine it could be known, but you would just Looking at anecdotal things, you would just say well he's President Puerto Rico, people died Therefore it must have been a bad job right. Anybody who could that connection would

be trained in decision making. Here's another one, half opinions, that's a word. I came up with an append. A well formed opinion, would consider the cost of something all the costs short term long term, all of the costs, including opportunity, cost the thing you could. If you hadn't been doing this, and it would also include the benefits. If you included all of those things, you're, probably trained and had to make decisions You might be an engineer, you might be a scientist, you might be an economist right If you've included all the costs short term long term opportunity costs, and all the benefits psychological

financial, if you've included all you might be trained in in decision making. But if you said hey, why can't we just let people in let the family stayed together, etcetera because that's the humane thing to do. If the, if you're done with your analysis at that point. You've probably never learn to make decisions. You might be a journalist, for example, because the right way to look at that is, if you let people in, if you treat them well, what happens if you leave out the what happened, you're not really making the decision. You have a half billion you're you're picking the party, like I like, being good to people yeah, I like being good to people. I don't like children in cages. I guess we're done here. I guess we have I painted myself into a corner. Somebody says I have no idea what that means right,

then yeah. So if your opinion ignores human incentives,. Then then, you're not really part of the decision making crew all right. What else is there to talk about today so I haven't done this yet, but I'm threatening to do this well, so here's here's some more that's related to the same topic. I hear a lot of anti trumpers will tell me if I'm talking to them in person having a national conversation or even on twitter, and it goes like this they'll say. The president of the United States has to, Old three thousand lies since he was inaugurated or whatever the number is And I always like to say this: well uh

What exactly was the impact of that so far what were the the GDP be if that number had been zero and you go okay, so probably all the things you're saying that were- that were lies doesn't seems to be that they affected the economy today. And then you hear somebody say well, ok, there's no way to know that it affected the economy Then I can take it a little bit further and I will say We know economies are built on expectations right, and you're. You talking to somebody who's learned anything about it next they'll say well, yes, the X stations mean a lot and then, I say well suppose lot of those alleged fact checking problems. Was the president sort of exaggerating how good the economy was

exaggerating that businesses getting jobs back to the United States may be exaggerating how much difference it makes to cut regulations. Let's say he was exaggerating yeah how quickly, yeah the door, how different it was from Obama, say, exaggerated, how well things are doing now in terms of jobs compared to amber jobs that were created under Obama, say, exaggerated to the point where it's just not true suppose he said it's better now on some variables and economic variable than note ever was or, but maybe that's not true. There was a year before that it was better. What you've done all of those things. What would be the net effect of that the economy would be better, So when somebody is pointing out, President had Two thousand fact check problems.

If you understand how things work getting the economy, how the psychology of expectations, 5c economy. You could ok, well how many the three thousand were about the economy. Things that were not true, but they directionally good persuasion to cause those things to be true. So if you're, looking for what problems were caused by the three thousand fact checking problems, I think you have to take out the I don't know five hundred or so that actually made who's better. Don't you 'cause, if you're complaining about the fact checking your complaining about the problems they cost. I think you'd have to subtract out. All the good things he said about the economy that may have been exaggerations to the point of not being true. I was actually did make the country better and they

intended to do that. Think about it. Do you include all the fact checking? problem when it's obvious that some number of them on, they were in the right direction to be positive, 'cause. It made us think. Things are going well, so people invest in made people hire people it was other companies to say: hey, everybody's every he's coming back to the United States. Maybe I should leave in that direction all right, and then you say well what about N Korea. Looks like North Korea, which of the. Many many in fact checking problems. The three thousand fact checking problems made the currency, version with N Korea. Worse. I can't think of any okay, so maybe None of the

lying, exaggerating, hyperbole. Ok, maybe none of them had any direct effect, fighting ISIS maybe none of it has any effect on North Korea. It's not clear that anything made any difference with Russia. I can't see an example of that Let's say that world affairs and even Even trade deals etc it I can't give an example where something that was a fact check problem. Give us a bad result in any of that, can you I can't think of any cause and effect going on there? and you can go read the line. You'll find. That People are really really concerned about something where they can find no connection to the real world. In other words, the fact checking even if you assumed all the fact checkers are completely right, even

use it. Their number is roughly true, even if you said that. Where is the problem You know it made sense. A few you there we go to say we think there might be. The problem with us, but now you don't have to wonder about it. You can just look. We've had a few years of Trump, and everything is heading in the right direction and the things you don't like me, maybe you think scare. Immigration should be better. I think, is several areas that could be better, but I don't any reason to think the the president has said made those things worse, take first thing in the country: what's first thing in the country. Right now I would say race relations, maybe healthcare, maybe maybe even but I was a race relations is at the top of the list of they aren't going well under the Trump administration.

How much of that is because the isn't lied. I can't think of anything, that the president lied about or how to fact check problem or a Tripoli problem, the made race relations worse? Because all the things I can think of were in the opposite direction, if, for example, he said he did great things for african Americans. Well suppose that was an exaggeration but still it's in the direction of making things worse, if you say that you're working hard for them, if you say your administration, did great things for african Americans. If you it. Is Obama did less? Even if even if some of that was not exactly true. It's moving in the right direction. Isn't it isn't it isn't it? presently showing love support. I'm working,

for the african american people. I love, I love Hispanics. So everything is said, even if you imagine that they weren't true they, I still would not have made things worse. They would have made things better as they were all all of his persuasion is in the movement of moving, store, you know, one, Erica and not having racial problems, Are there any lies in the in the race situation they things worse, oh yeah! Here's one Charlotte and that was media lie. Media, has lied about Charlottesville from the beginning, and that's made things much worse as it. If you look at race relations most of those problems that we have. This seems to be an increase over what we've had in the recent past, our are because of lies.

And those lies are coming from the media. And they're very easy to identify, I described the Charlottesville live pretty easily um. So line does matter, but is seems to only seems to only make things worse, one coming from the media. I can't think, an example where the president. And something that didn't pass, the fact checking and it made. Something in the real world. Worse and that's, as I often say, even when his facts are wrong. He is directionally accurate. Okay, even if you take, let's take the most extreme, where the president saying that only you know a few dozen people died,

because of Hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico. The fact checkers are going crazy, saying my god, you know all these qualified people have looked at it and it seems that lots and lots of people died, Snell, no matter which of those facts you think is true, and I think the obvious answer is it's. Probably somewhere in the middle. You know, I don't think the people who claimed all the dust- are really hurricane related because they're sort of related to bad bad government badge infrastructure. It's not one thing that causes. Is this: a lot of things have to go wrong for that whole situation to exist so I see the president say no, we good job with Puerto Rico. The deaths weren't that many, which way is he trying to persuade well, of course, he's trying to defend his administration

administration does that, but he's also trying to tell the story where the president and all of his other white people in the government. We're doing all they could and did a good job for the people of Puerto Rico, which would be the a set of telling a story where you're trying to make things worse. Is telling a story that if you believe it would make, you think that the government cares about all of its people. So it's enough about that. Anyway, I'm looking at all the vague things that the critics say about the president and star watching these categories form because critics are running out of actual facts that they can connect to a bad result. Right there are lots of things. They don't like, like the fact checking and they don't like the attitude and they don't like to tweeting, but there have

real trouble connecting those things to an actual problem. It's very hard to say he sent this tweet. These ten people were killed because it like there's nothing like that. It's all general vague things, so I'm starting collect the list of the big things that people say like, They say that he's impulsive, the presidents impulsive, ok, tie that observation to The bad outcome, because, every time we hear a story like that, the impulsiveness doesn't seem to be a problem, except for the ways reported. As he'll throw out some ideas, we've heard- for stories about this that I'm crazy when you hear them out of context but the people. He talked who said? Ok that doesn't work, you definitely don't to do that. Here's why

And then they didn't do it. So We haven't seen doesn't put kids in cages. You must be coming in late So we haven't seen an example where the impulsiveness actually translated into the problem now there may be cases where he didn't have the right information and I think the immigration kids in cages things. Is a mistake that the Miss Tration has to own all right I think it probably has more to do with not everybody The chain know exactly what the Locations of these changes would be probably didn't know how bad it would be for kids didn't know, yeah, probably just didn't, know the details and should have right. So there's no used for anything that happens. The president has to take responsibility, for

is wrong and what goes right, even if, even if they didn't know what was going on in those details but uh anyway, So, my point being that you're going to hear words like the press, his unhinged? Well, what? What did? What problem? Did that cause? was he unhinged and therefore the GDP is lower. He's. Unhinged and therefore in Korea is not going well now it seems to be going in the right direction. He's unhinged and therefore what what. Or there Edie's dictatorial here, is dictatorial and usually the example. These days is, he says, critical things about the Justice Department and the Supreme Court. True.

And the problem is to take it to the next step. Yes, the president, This thing is no president has done before he's used. His right of free speech to push against another organization in the government in public Everything he says is public he's pushing against them in public, so that is opinion gets weight in the public as the opinions or the work coming out of other groups and the problem is watt. Yeah I don't know the problem. I mean the supreme or it is still doing his thing right as anybody at the Supreme Court as anybody in the Justice Department said you know, will just stop doing our job. Now. I've seen nothing like that. I've, I've, seen nothing that would suggest that anything

president has said in a tweet. Any pressure is put any complaint and criticism of other parts, government. I have seen no credible explanation L. Any of that has actually turned into a problem. Personally, I appreciate the transparency I like it account a country where I see the eggs the opinion unfiltered of our leaders. You know when it's when it's an opinion about something that doesn't have him. National secret type implications, Yes, so these things are all things that are happening, but they don't translate to a problem. Yeah, maybe he's impulsive. So what yeah. Maybe he is he says.

Things that remind you of a dictator because he's talking about the other institutions, but but what? But? What happened? What was the downside? All right, uhm, So last thing I want to talk about is that Apple has produced an apple watch that has a medical sensor in it will check heart, I think I'm probably going to go out and get one. I don't watch is, and I never wanted to own an apple watch and I didn't think it was didn't really think you had enough capabilities in it to make it worth But now the apples Watch has a yeah nice Ec G, so it can. It can tell you if your heart is fun. Thing right well before you might have noticed it, and so you could catch problems early. So I could save your life.

Now, apparently, this is just the beginning. There's there all kinds of micro devices that sensors work with your work with your smartphone and imagine that matching the size of their benefit I'm just did you see there's even one? there's a. A little device you can hook to your phone this literally it's like this big and it's flat, but it's like you know just this big and it's What do you call it when you do the sonic imaging? What's the name of that, when you look see what your baby looks like electrocardiogram is that it so that exist. Now

Now we have tiny sensors that will be able to test your blood test your heart. Can you check your vitals, your pulse, your blood pressure and Do anything check? Yeah, you would even be able to like see if you have a broken arm. You know you can actually look raising your arms you put in is broken now. You probably would still be together actually, but you can, you can see if there are any problems in there, and I thought to myself. Man we're really getting to the point where doctors are going to be a sonograms. Thank you, ultracet

is sonogram the same as ultrasound, but that's what the that's, what the device can do? You can do alter sound of from your phone, which is amazing anyway, when you see all this stuff coming together, it feels like we're close to one I'll call the poor person's health care and a poor person's health care would be your paper. Is it for your doctor? You've got a of apps and people. You can talk to that. Can walk you through how to use Maybe you've gotten online Tela Tela Health doctor. On my app interface by when hope, which, by the way is amazing, You could get medical advice on that too. So yeah close to an amazing time an amazing time, an amazing time anyway,

I'm gonna probably mention my app every time, I'm on here for awhile, because we're in that phase. But if you haven't tried the interface by when how about you should you can sign up for free, be an act or on anything. I'm going to give you some examples of things. You could be an expert on better somebody will use my app, so the nature the app is, you can sign up as an expert and set your own price When you're online and available people can immediately make a video call and they'll your price for the for the that you're on you could be an expert or you could just be talking to people keeping him company telling them a story, etc. I wondered if people will ever use it to tell their kids a bedtime story

I'm trying to think of all the the uses for the product that we did not anticipate and I thought about their appearance, who would just put it next to the ed and and have somebody else tell a bedtime story to the kid yeah. Let's say a nice grandmother or something I they get some other business done here within earshot. They'd want to be able to hear what's happening, but I wonder if anybody will do that I'll bet, they will come. And I wonder how many people would use it for a tutor, many people, and, let's say low income households who can't afford a real tutor to come to the house? but how many of them just

need some help for their kid who's, trying to get through math or whatever, and they can help him. And what do you do your kids doing homework and just can't figure it out and doesn't have a nice So there should be apps and if somebody signed up to be a a mentor or a tutor on the interface by one slash two bath. Maybe fifteen minutes of that person's time, would make a big difference, and What about mentors the I've often said that Or in low income situations, and especially african american community, if you get locked in the silo of your own community. You don't have access to mentors and advice from from the the other people, so some people might want to say: hey, I'm retired. I don't need to make money. I'm just gonna be a mentor for inner city, youth and just sign up

there may be some intercepted city youth who says hey, this is either free 'cause you can set your price is zero by the way the interface by one how bad you can set your price to zero if you want, I don't make any money if you do that, but you know what I still encourage it, because it big news now why you would do that instead of make just a facetime call. Is that The advantages of the interface by when Hub app is that you can discover people, and then you can. Make a phone call, but you don't have each others personal contact information, they don't know where you live. They don't know what your phone number is. They don't have your email, they don't have anything he wanted to. You could exchange those things during the conversation, but you don't have to so. If you want

Something that's quick and anonymous? We do that and synonymous, except that your face is going to be there. So you're going to present yourself in your buy out by your bio, uh dialectic behavior therapy Maybe today yeah, I think, interface by one now, but will be great for a lot of therapy uses. I think it will be great for people who need a sponsor if they're Alex, they can't find their sponsor the sponsors busy that they're thinking about taking a drink or doing the drugs, and they just need to talk to somebody right away. So I think that'll be use PTSD, I think they'll be use. People were considering considering lots

things will be yours right great for people who need a friend exactly. I think the seniors might just use it as end an hour a day of. Can you just talk to me or let me Talk to you for an hour, just something have something like human contact. Even if it's on video said somebody said suicide prevention, and I do This is that idea also, but I'm told so here's why suicide prevention may not be that exactly what you think it is. Any professional would immediately tell them to go to a emergency room. Apparently, so I think the ethically a professional. If somebody said hey, I'm thinking about killing myself,

a professional would probably send them to somebody in person right away, get to the emergency room, get to get to a real person, but it could help it could at least get him send them in the right direction, distract them from their bad intentions, so that could be good uh. But you could say that on the interface app Correct you could say that on the app how to score a hot girlfriend, somebody could be an expert on that. You should be able to browse for an expert in the app yeah. The version that we're getting ready to release will improve their browsing. So right now we had a the first release. We wanted to keep it as simple as possible. So basically it's like tinder for experts, you just you right through and find the one you want, but

The number of experts increases that doesn't that interface doesn't work as well. We wanted to start simple, so it was easy for people to understand what it was, but it as we start getting some traction will improve, will continuously improve the interface as people on board uh we're not doing vetting of experts. It's a free market and people can put links to their qualification, But you also don't have to pay for the first minute or three minutes, but a minute or so of the call. If you see but he was obviously a fraud. You can just end the call and you're not going to get charged. How do I buy stocks of one hub so we're private company and we we don't have stocks or equity offering? But you can

Own the tokens that are used within the the app and those tokens. I go up in value. They might go down in value. They're, not they're, not not not an investment, but it is a way to to be linked, Linkedin directly to the success of the company without on equity. If you own the coins that the that the app uses and there's more for them, because there's more people using the app then the value should go up. Professional apologiser's would be funny all right. Just looking at your comments, okay,

well that may very well change the world. You know, I think, that's when hub or things like it. You know that might be a class apps it could change the world because, if you think about it, this is an app that could totally change health care because you can do it would make it just simple to do to give medical advice by phone right now, You could do it it's more expensive? It's hard. Are you going to be part of a plan, etc? So it could change healthcare fairly radically, it could change education, it could change mentoring, it could change. Connect to people who have the resources you need. It could change job searches. It could change a lot of things so you're right it could change, could change the. All right- and I will talk to you later bye for now.