My name is LISA Coup drought and I feel tired about being cut His friend had fallen back to work and the firms pay their welcomed, Colonel Brian needs, a friend the shower I use the podcast format, selfishly to try and make friends and dumb. It is working quite well, and I'm joined, as always in my quest for friendship by my, Hosty assistant, so of session. I sauna hello. How are you I'm doing very well? Thank you. We were that for four hours

flawlessly were also here. My hip producer mad go. Really mad. How are your high court in her? You just seemed like a hip guy. You link, you dress, well, I'm sure you use exotic oils. On your beard. I don't No, I'm not oil, guy and oils. If anything, I'm like put some talker chalk on area, shut up. I don't want it smooth. You know or adding oil on his beard. I imagined him rubbing something into his beard and I put oil out there to lure him into telling us what he did put into his beard. So the trap has been set and It has sprung. You ve been captured, goarly and you have admitted to rubbing too and she really ass. You do I walk into schoolrooms across the southward and put shock in my beard during session. Think you do anyway. I am either aided. Either aided or, some would say hindered

he's too you be the judge, and today we're gonna be tough. Came to someone who is a very dear friend of mine, and I am delighted to be speaking today with the incredibly talented, LISA Cougar We ve been friends since nineteen eighty five years nineteen, eighty, four, nineteen eighteen, eighty six. We disagree well good friendship but afraid Still the same. No, nineteen, eighty five etc. We manage that class in their class. I don't think started till like January or February nineteen, eighty six, yes yeah I came to allay with my running for

Greg Daniels right out of college? The first thing I did my first day at work on a show called not assume the news, and he has twenty two is eight picked up the phone and I called the groundlings. How can I get it to take classes because I wanted to do improv, they said were a full were fully booked, but there is class that is at the core of theatre. Last out again, and It is taught by Cynthia and Cynthia said Jerry, and I said: ok, but he's access is desperate to start doing, improv, yeah yeah, you think it didn't circle, January or son. I think so yeah, that's it. I remember LUCA I remember I showed this glass, I don't know anybody. I walk into the class and you weren't in the first class. I wasn't in the now. I was there the first week and you were not there. The first round knows her.

Well. I was it the first class, but I didn't see you there. That's when I showed up right was thrown out my modeling career off the ground. Right the sad story. So as I said I, but I also called the groundlings and set out to take classes, John, let it said I should come the shocking that that was going to open every and they went well when's. The last time you like performed, or did I found what junior high school said? Ok right to send you to Cynthia Cigarette is class. I wasn't, we don't have room it was we don't want? You owe you go to diminish, just been being polite with me, but they basically told me screw you go to simply say get his class and that's where we met that goes on friend ass. He came down here a lot of other things that are bad you're dead friend, but I walk in and just how that feeling of do. I belong here, the US. This is silly. I think you have the same feeling my guide yes and they

They represent the first thing they did was have us do these exercises, which are, I still find embarrassing, acting exercises? Were you toss a fake ball to each other? You pretend to lift something heavy desk lifted disk, that's very heavy and that's not fair and, of course, you to eat you, and I had been too good colleges and thought. If it's not there, why are we trying to lift it, and why is it heavy? Just all this? you know stuff it gets in your head here by dumb. We met at that class yeah. I remember watching you and thanking she's making really extinct choices. Really

No, no, you were. I could just tell you really smart and you're making existing choices, so we started chatting and then we became really close friends who talked all the time here. We would go out after improv classes and sit in a coffee shop and talk about our. We were going to be huge one day. He said gently I don't know if we do know that doesn't sound like you, but now it doesnt, but it wasn't me, I'm gonna be the biggest thing ever I didn't. I just hope I really do yeah that wasn't. It suggests that we would sit and talk about like see. I think that's the way to go, but the person did yeah. I was hypercritical of other improvised, a new internet proviso. Yet riper yeah. And I wish you would scold me, because I knew a other. People are up their trying out their stuff on staying and if I thought it was happy or corny, I would put what was it. I put my my face in my hand,

so now yeah. I don't want to take the headphones after you'd. Put your face, your hands in like the top of your head, and you would. Grab your hair out of the room and Oil MIKE and your face. You have this leg, grimace of pain, but if you know it didn't have to do with the hair pulling now it was because someone was making a choice. Said I thought was a was increased: and you said to me, people can yeah you're in a lit theatre, the lights aren't out you're in a lit theatre in someone's up they're going names. Mrs good play put police on popular and I'm in the front row rocking like rain man. Yet by pulling my hair ongoing bats. Ass. He heard it hurts uniquely insensibility to watch, which is what I decided was happening. I thank you in an thought you were disposed to do. How can he bear it?

I don't know how we supposed to bury it. It's really with mediocre. That's the genius! That's what if they can't bear mediocrity, and I respect that. However, I think maybe I should let him know other people can see it how is a nice person and if he thought he was hurting someone's feelings he would want to stop. I didn't want to hurt anyone feelings by there's, no excuse for what I did way bit, but could I say one family I've told you this before. I think I don't know, but I did go to the class before you got there. There was one class before his eyes this visa, getting serious ghettos, classier and I was so embarrassed for everybody and myself for those exercises. What we're doing and then hearing some people. You know that you could tell like they book commercials, guzzler, perky and an hearing, my great god. Yes, yes and I'm like. Oh no, I mean

have gone mad, but that's not good. There's nothing good about any of this and I thought so then I went home and thought I guess this is for me and I m yeah. I don't think I can do this and then I just like how can a trial gotta second class, but I was late, and so you are all up on stage. Lifting a disk or throwing up space box was lifting discs and Cynthia said what you wanna go up. There is only one of interrupt wrapped or it or intruder impose I'll. Just sit here and judge quietly and and I never understood what she was talking about the first class it can. I have one comment you have to commit commit what that means. I know what that means, but people are getting praise for terrible acting in indicating. So I don't know wait. I watched coding was the only one you're, the only one who you were lifting a disk, but you weren't

get me out of it. You know you were just pretending to be lifting a disk that had some weight and I went I bet Sunday. I mean I believe, his lifting it. Ask right, but he's not turning it into more than it needs to be established. She means by commit. Oh, I think I understand this. Oh, I think I can do this right, like I'm just going to keep my back. I knowledge knowledge as he does it in a way that better than everyone else and I get it and I believe him and then that's when we started talking, I feel it

I made like a bee line for you after that exercise. Its women do well yeah. I delete a line you're in Prague, really good, sudden yeah I just have ever. We would talk and commiserate, and I was immediately respected your intelligence. You're an end, you had very high standards and you weren't into the raw everything we do is good high school and I think that's one of the things that happen. Sometimes because it's a fine line in improper acting, you know. Sometimes you go. You do any input a show and the audience is mostly filled with people who are friends right and their there to just say yea to everything, yeah they're laughing at absolutely everything that's happening, and I used to get like a little angry. I want to, I would feel

any choice, you maybe like yea, they did it. And I would feel almost like it's a make. A wish. Or something like? Are we sick and they're? Just here to cheer ass. A hot and tat is due for we slip into the void and it aid me, and I realized I that wasn't for me and I think you felt the same thing, which is we wanted the wanted to be rewarded for good choices, but I was, I also wanted to take my lumps fur yeah. I truly silence. If something's not funny, you I mean that's how you know something's not funny, should be silence and then you learn and you can change it until there's a laugh and you make a funny, but that's that's. It was bugging me to allow those like to encourage. This house wants to learn anything if you're just those, also by the way, my problem with like a friend's taping causes the audience would just laugh at absolutely everything

No, I don't know how many times I would look out with a dirty look on my face. I would see low enraged kid. You were in re, read and re really well you're laughing again. I would just look at them like stop it, They can come up with something else. For eight hours super stand thing about with something else, don't incorrect. I know now that its dreadful are terrible. It's just, I don't know I'm just kind of objective and I really dont understand, hurt feelings over criticism or you know I mean when I to me it's mostly constructive. If it's not personal, you know right, but just as like something isn't funny to me as not you not take that personally, I know that you can. I just I realize I mean to this day I'll be in the writers room and it won't be throwing out ideas and I'll say what we could do, such as such and not just be. Silence, and

I realize yeah, that's not good and I'm a whole sire everybody tonight. Why can I tell you because I do because I can write, and that is a different thing. And then I see them too, which is opening taken too far to train, destroy their lives now. But I that's part of it is I lie. Being in a system where I feel gravity where I feel like Oh there. If I have something really funny, get the reward of everybody laughing. If I miss didn't work here, I am I'm not gonna get my feelings heard because that's what this job is. Job is being in a coal mine and you're gonna get dirty and you can't if you want to be in a coal mine, you have to accept that the votes only bad if its end ever after. You may never do this again, because that open time it wasn't funny that an issue fat I usually isn't usually doesn't come down to that. That's why you're I never in Vienna, the groundlings I loved that whole process. We would gain

each other notes. I know you went through you made it further advanced class. Yes, will you hide and appreciate other people giving? You know? but now I did because I learned early on. I got a great know. We had a teacher in calm in Robin oh yeah and Robin Chef Robin chef. She was great Robin shifts great teacher and I remembered her. I heard her really funny time, I think you know about this, but its uses beyond attractive teacher, and I I thought I was entering really well in this class and then making her laugh alive and then she said dumb. She said to me. We were doing our last final show and after that show she said you know we're going to meet at a mexican restaurant, which was the tradition we meet at the recognition. When she said I talk to you before we go to mexican restaurant and I was like

Yes, you can. I just remembered in my head being so am I got so much with my talent, yeah? She s, army, really laugh and she's. Gonna say: look, I know a little older than you. I did my class. I had all these fantasies you're, not in my class anymore, technically, and so now I dont know what I was thinking. So she invites me in her cars like it in her car and we go to get gasoline. She need to get gas before she went to the restaurant, so we get gasoline in her card. I, like I pump it for I'm like I'll, take care of that I I I get in like I fix the engine well sold trigger than we thought, but I got that unleaded in issues like the ha that's great star When is she going to say I have

feelings. I have had an iron feelings feelings I can't hardly do. I must have that six foot forage a hundred, fifty five permanent body so and then she said to me. I want to talk to you in all went well. You know fire away and she said: therapy at your yes, she said and then she said because you're your minds really quick, but sometimes it's to quit and you're always thinking up? They are dont think in, but I I think, sometimes you got a quiet you're just you should really get therapy. Well. Here we are at the restaurant slam, ILO Sure for doing so, but did the same thing for me. Years later. By the way, I think people should know Robin Chef is a great writer. She wrote Roman Michel's Highschool, real yeah, she's she's, very talented woman,

really really really town, and I think we know about me frankly now, I'm sure she does too, but she also told me after there'd been like a tough time. As she said, you know what I can tell, because you just report you ve been crying every day for two days. You should get therapy allow? Okay, so maybe you just telling everyone go, get their applause years later in a butt and she was right, and that was the first time I got therapy and it was the most incredible helpful thing. To me, I mean I didn't really: I killed therapy, I didn't really laughing, I mean she said she was down with me after like six months. It wouldn't it be funny. If that were my, this attitude about the european right. I'd I'd excelled at I'd really well. Well, I got an aim there. I did so so well

I was always struck by your intelligence, but also you are one of the most practical people and when you think about the cliche of not just the actor or the actress, but the actor, the actress that's blown up and become super huge. I knew you before you didn't change in any way. Your kind of your immune to what you think might be a false com. I think you're just immune to compliments in general, you're very like that might be true. I don't I'll have to think about the right because I'm a little bit of rain man no, I mean I feel that I am a little in the way I think, there's a healthy dose of being somewhere on the spectrum. Actually, I disagree completely. I know plenty of people who are like that. Some of them are in this room now, but by Tom would see. Oh my throat, No I'm not

get that at all: I get that you you are you we ve talked about this before you were always someone that has almost. I want to see. Like a victorian sense of morality, principles, hard work, and I always love that about you. It's very rare and used to tell me so where's about when you were. You know a teenage girl, your mom was a sort of trying to encourage you, like alone, should go out and meet some boys and ride around in a car and have some drinks engine be heeded. Oh yeah went home, I had a boyfriend for five minutes and looks at his house and he was taken things a little too far. So I left- and I remember thinking This will be like a mother daughter moment. My mother, my mom, should treasure, and That's your room and welfare and went ass just at his house and am tell your like Dan. I just laughed and should like what he said. Look that's what he does she said

you are going to sleep. I thought that I guess we're like God. Why don't you just do it? Why do my reporting was he really cross the line and, like my parents, where I came from its really weird what'll, I river so different from me? There are so different from you you're, your parents. Would. I remember this is a case like nineteen night, this be nineteen. Eighty, six and I'm new to la new to this business, and you were nice enough to invite me over to your house for dinner. You know just didn't happen. I didn't get invited. I didn't know anybody who's Perry. Know anybody lad parents and allay, and so I went over and sat at the table. I'll, never forget this. Your parents would talk about anything oh, don't I come from very. I come from Irish Catholic people that sex nothing like that's ever discussed you daddy.

Dare and your mom is very cool about talking about anything. Next thing. I knew your dad was saying there are several positions you can take. Where, where you're in this position and he's in that position gets quite sexual, but it doesn't in any way and involve baby, and I my Looked at my silverware in melted, whereby he of my body I couldn't, and this was a sitcom where less have up Irish catholic boy come over to Tarzan and the most Mr created Cool Jew, family is gonna talk about sexual position in the amendment that was I had to learn to be way more uptight, yeah, but then, like you said, I was if we started this Victorian, like ghost you know inhabiting

a child. Is I when I was young, I would watch like cheaper by the dozen or life with Father like about these catholic families, and I completely identify like yeah right. That's the way it should that's where it should be. You know, there's another redhead, ok, good clock that redheads are treated as I got hanging now. That's what from clearly identified always just like. Ok, that's, ok! Well, that's what good girls do our! I could yeah that'll. Be me I'll, be that first I'll be that person that yeah you know, I could be a nun and I think it right now. I'm jewish right. I can't be a really good, no doubt whatever that it needs to be a very good. None. That's yeah, you're tough you're talking to you are you're mit.

You're, tougher net you, I think, you're tough on yourself very tough on yourselves, and would you agree with that and I dont know I think you have high standards. Because I could be tougher yet? What were you know? It's true. If that were my answer, I'm not gonna come at anything nice you who are waiting in about, I totally implode insane note. I am waiting, you haven't you you are a you. Ve always been someone who loves to think of the worst case scenario. Something bad could happen. Tat is a big part of your personal. Yes and still is and still wait a minute. This could happen, and if that happened then this would happen, and then that would happen and then I'd be crushed underneath rocks and Peru ride like well. How did you get there? How did you do that but which is visor, gets a get some jewelry, so I can so it into the hands of my clothing. Just in case,

but you are- and I am personally that person will that's how you know. I'm jewish snake answer that, you're looking. You always is the worst case scenario possible, so How did you handle? You have the worst case scenario thinking and then friends explodes and your part of the biggest cultural phenomenon, twenty twentieth century? How do you reconcile that? the way it was a part of it. It was. I was thinking well, this is going well now, but then it will and death in months and then we'll all be hated which never have oh now there was a backlash period was then yet there was because we were way over expose, and there is like a diet, coke promotional thing that you know we kind of had no choice, but be part of, and there was this big backlash and that didn't gets me, but there were set. Most people notice that backlash. Now now even thought about Attica time yet, but I think we all men and we met with Marty David and Kevin who create and produce friends and we

Just so you know we all just have to like deal with the task at hand, just focus on the show's and forget about all the other stuff, but but it was great to be with. I have to say five. Other people going through this, but now me and I think Jennifer. Why knows Jennifer she and I would be like we gotta- be careful deriving cause. This is too much good luck. Yeah yeah via there an accident waiting to happen around the corners thing like that. I remember her say my guess. I got that she had the same year? You you, you two were sort of alike in that it felt like this is too good yeah, so there's gonna be some Balin coming hands Tory balancing, that's gonna happen. Something will balance it out, but she's not like that right, except that moment and then I think she got over it and you know is healthy, fed them. That kind of, like you, you know, running worst case scenarios. I can't help it method.

I mean and then what you know who doesn't do that? I don't think he's Matlock. That is why he's wonderful I've become friendly with him on the show, a lot and he's. He suggests fascinated by him because he's everything I'm not in it. I mean that is a compliment to him. He, I could see friends hitting huge him just being like you know yet. Well, this is you know, there we go and his head in a last a long time and be a huge hit and it's time to have. Fine, I'm from Newton Mass and it's all good wake me. I've got to say he. It was better than man. He was like you know. I don't know how long this is. Gonna last longer enjoy it, while it's happening and no one's better than digging a ditch. That's a great that's true, Why can't I mean like mad like yeah, yes, the right attitude, just sort of like well we're here. This is what's happening. Let's just see do good work, maybe it'll keep going now.

Right now. He says things to me. Oh I remember. Actually it was at your wedding. You put me at the table: yeah fuck with the cat yeah, and this is where the other famous person there but they had so. This would be ninety five and the shows just had its first season. We were starting to do where, really, whereas that summer, that summer just starting to happen, but I remembered that it was become, huge and I'm sitting at this table at your lovely wedding, and I was seated next to it like in between Matlock Blog and I can't member who out who was on the other side. But I was sitting there, there's Matthew Perry and did it stop to go super well, not just well, but crazy. Well, yeah summer Matlock had no idea. I remember that

I remember he had no idea and everyone else at the table new and so Malabar goes. I gotta know. Maybe we get into the sea Oh you know this year and I said there are no. No. I would, by the way, I'm Conan Matt. You know O Hagan yeah, no, no you're going to get another season, did theirs is the numbers. This show is doing a lot about this, but I think there are the highest numbers anyone's ever seeing and he was an end. Mallet block was gone. I dunno you will see what season, but I'd be nice. Is a branches are bred coming soon, and I was I was trying to get the other members of the cast till I can you talk to him and then I think think it was like magic pair. You leading went nuts.

No, no it's innocent! It's it's a hit. It's a massive hit music good! Oh hey the breads here. Getting out of the way we don't pay for the drinks. Other drinks are paid for our good. I was like. I want to take a quick break or we make a lot of money and you had none of it is that I got Now is the time for the segment Cardinal Ryan pays off the mortgage on its beach house yeah. I wanna belabour the point. I just liked to be honest with my listeners that I did by a beach house. Did take a rather large mortgage and then took alone against that mortgage, which was a mistake, so I had to pay their bills, bells pay them bills, dollar, bill dollar, bill, yeah, you're, so hip! Yes, I am you so hip and cool, Well, you have the lingo down. I come from the streets. Do you

wicked, and the sheets became my mind. What He was both me angrily every sponsor what happened wicked in the sheets yet does that this was not something people say yeah but now the locked I contacted is making it even in the imo staring at you goarly and you are threatening me with a paper. Clap I'm just stay is holding a paper, clap I'm up at me as if he's got a dagger, but it's a paper clip This is not meant to be a threat. This is a gesticulation aid. Like you just said it gesticulation and locked eyes with you anyway I like to be, must, I think, that's, but there's a lot of people that red add copying. You wonder why are they doing this? I'm telling you why I bought it each house not a lot One, and it was quite an investment, and people told you not to do this. You hired people who told you to do that when people giving advice, I don't want my fire them. Oh, my God, those people until I found an accountant who is really fine with me just

buying whenever I want. He says we'll figure it out later his name Sergio. I don't know Dont know his last name. I don't even think he hasn't office and he's a cash. Only I think, is working out of your beach. He might be he just guess his motto is, don't worry about it says it on his business card which he only has one of the eyes ass. He always asked for it back. He gives it to me. Is it laminated, no paper and any says a need that back I'm like Sergio? You just gave it to me. I need to back it just says Sergio business manager. I think its managers misspell if, as business major enemies and then it says underneath don't worry about it, but then the awkward bicycles like I kind, neither back I get it back to him, it's getting really rumpled wrinkled. But anyway, why should we sell some

So why do some athlete crying bitterly things have been tough lately here in the pact must sell some good quality stuff. Where'd they go for many people, high schools and embarrassing time of life. It can be embarrassing that are a few had that sooner I did not. I was an incredible jock. What no captain of every team, every single sports team? You can't change the narrative captain of every single team by ice I feel like no one would believe that lost my virginity fifth grade, ok I was just incredible, so I don't know, but I told that people have a hard time of yeah, I'm sure with your awkward body see upsets supper,

you seem sorry, usually when people feel really sorry, they laugh so hard. They can't catch their breath. Okay! So now you win, I had some difficulties in high school. Yes, you know I'd it and all smooth sailing what yeah? Ok, that's really funny yeah. I guess the jokes on me yeah anyway laughing at you again. We hear nothing when upon Castillo here, no anyway. This new show a new show called every things gonna be ok, and heard the sun. They show up it's it's quite compelling, Sir sounding there's a cat, character. Her dad is dying, her gay australian. Half brother moves in two razor, end of the show is called everything's going to be okay and it's these two characters, Matilda and genevieve- and this does not sound like your typical sitcom Matilda has autism and Genevieve is just as someone who's dressed up like a quote child whore widow, and these

Characters, I guess, have all these adventures. I have a half brother Nicholas, there's a funeral. Everyone shows up, apparently they he's got a little off the hook. This may sound depressing, but I'm told this show is really find a watch. I'm sorry did you see a little off the hook? Yeah! That's that's all! That's always kid say it sounds like it could be depressing, but then it's off the hook. Now, although I used to correct ok, yeah, so maybe you're in Kronk village. Why I'm quite content- and I use that Equally, I re worried I don't throw a hazy over. There are oh, my guide, everything's gonna be ok, that's the name of the show. Out of here I just turned eighty mecca. Premiers January, sixteen thirty, eight thirty, seven, thirty central on free form, that's right watch all my entertainment free form check it out.

It's important. I can I get something out here, which is that in nineteen nine Deef three the late night show starts to appear on the horizon and Lorn Michael's suggested to me that struggle touch me first about producing it, and I didn't want to do that and I parted company with him a little bit and he called back and said you know we're looking around would be interested, possibly in auditioning to host, and I had a huge panic attack and I asked different people, people that are really close to me in my life, if Letterman left and what, if I out of nowhere, took over for him. How would you feel like that in the common reaction was oh man,

Really I mean no you're you're funny in, but by a lot of that and then LISA exclusively the only person in my life who said you have to do that. You have to do that you're, the perfect person to do that. It's what you have to do. And you kind of made me do it. And I don't know if you hadn't it then in my life I dont know what I would have done well when I was incredibly and secure about doing it and had all the appropriate fear? I was not delay did. I knew that I I dont have the chops. Yet I don't and you just kept saying you are the only person to do it. I know what I know you had this certainty and you had no patience for me. Even questioning ed and I leaned on that and have always been indebted to you, and I wanted to say this:

dont know if you have been in my life, if I would ever have done this show, I honestly I would have ever done at you or the one person that said you have to do it, and I was pretty clear on that. You were chillingly now I was manner it was scary amounts that I'd look, I'm not a psychic I, but sometimes I get very clear on certain things, and it's like I know it. I know and then no one that we all knew of could replace David Letterman right so and we are all in on him. It has to be someone that no one knows them the only possibility and you're perfect super funny. Really smart can talk to anybody, so it just fat was to me like I could the lifeless went off forlorn and now he's gone play right and you have to do it and I knew also you would prepare and do everything you'd have to do

you knew I'd worry so much that I heard it hath a prepared it prepared like crazy. Well, I wanted to try to like Vinos. Reassure you enough that maybe some of the work he wouldn't be their Batista have christened s view here. The permit. This makes perfect sense. It's not, crazy, so crazy, because anybody listening to it now, if you know the story of this, is how history works once you know the story, you think feathers there still people out there to think late night for Conan, you know a bite in whatever you know. I think you'd be he'd, be being a lawyer by now. It doesn't sound, is impressive, but I'm telling you I couldn't find anybody that was that well you had a religious conviction and- and I lived off of that, wasn't just trying to make you feel better about it either that I this will further religious convicts. This was before the fact you could have. I haven't done anything

I hadn't even audition, you could have said. I don't think so. You know you're going to get hurt before going to rip the shit out of you, it's going to be nasty and you can end up being like kind of an no joke, and you didn't say that you just so I'd that was that was crucial for me. That was a way in which you know there's this conceit on this show about me. Finding Brandon and but I didn't want to say in all seriousness. That is a way in which you ve been one of the best friends in my life seriously. I wanted that recorded and then put in a time council, you use single handedly. I think convinced me to take this big leap that I don't know. I don't think I've taken if you had been there yeah, that's amazing! So the cash gift for you to get so much better here. That was great. Twelve! That's everything thousand is

rethink twelve thousand, our Canadian at Saint twelve thousand. I was saying that everything is it turns out. I meant Siam psychic yeah. Now that means a lot. That means to me. I knew what I know you don't even know. If I said to you, I knew this is gonna happen. You are going to do this, the additions, a technicality. I think I said that you do. He does like this is happening it's gonna happen. I dont know why or how I just knew. What I know is that where it is really weird it's one of those, I think we're both very practical people. That's one of those moments in my life that I can understand. I don't understand it because you just said nope. This is happening here and you'll see, and then it happened, and here we are me almost twenty six years later and only twenty six there as a twenty six, you I'll get her that I think so and then your adjusts yeah, I told you

and then you didn't mention podcast. I didn't I didn't say that that was a virus. You said there will be a thing. Radio will come about as a part, and we like what why wouldn't? If I had a tv show, why would I be doing right now? You'll see it's going to be neige right now but you're not done. There is still something else you're going to do. I don't know when it is look as if you're talking to a recycle, I mean I also know that, and I don't know I just need to come to you from all the answers. But I have zero answers with an answer and then are you disappear as himself come? You know, you'd be a terrible. Nowhere, pay you, as the psychic tenuous, happen. I have my crystal ball. Yeah some stuff can happen, something's gonna happen. What is it specifically as some stuff anyway? I can't tell you know Gimme fifty, but you will now. I guess it. You will know when it's time for you to know decisions yeah, you get something happened recently that is so LISA where

he it was. It was in the news that there is going to be a friend's reunion of another false, where that there's a friend's reunion and you like read it in the paper You're still reading. Are you ready you got here? You told me that you, you believed it and got your feelings heard that you haven't been contacted an early and believe that you wouldn't be part of a friend's reunion and that any were almost accepting of it not believed, but just wondered and decide like anything is possible. I mean, I guess it's possible And you thought given money it's possible and that it was possible that they wouldn't call you do now Anything is possible higher until like brace yourself, there friends reunion and they'll, just gonna. Do it with the five a text, and I you I'm not, I'm not, I'm not even China, because they would be awkward and no one wants to hurt your feelings. They just want to tell you

I just louder lie. Do it you make all the cars idea, I got swimmer. What do you do you talk to you? I got an assent, but we're going to call LISA. That's my colleagues that we need Do we really need to really add anything so hard to make her fit into the group pilot trying to justify why their friends with that Bang about was the fact that, whilst still following the pilot, I wanna get fired as required without the weaker. The pilot you, the week of the pilot, was sort of there were two. These moments of see ya, know that doesn't help we need to figure out. We need to figure out how to justify why all these people are, friends with Phoebe. I got me, I didn't. I boroughs Meta, we're rehearsing. Like ah aren't you know our code robe go under the table that monologue. You have dual from under the tape with the whole cast a sitting around the kid Monica table. As

it was about to kind of her credit card. I remember anything about the show, but I remember there sure for and he's likes do your mind or from under the table like under the table. Woody means like at all your Corky do under the table. I cannot see any by whom I talking to from under the Tipp. That's what's funny and so I do it- and you know it's completely flowd, it's terrible at the run through and the prudent spurts go there. So Sweet David cranes really nice like an LISA. That's a funny idea for you to be under the table. I'm not! Sure that it works now as if it was my you're ahead as if like let me just there's a tool areas there, all of it and I thought I'm going fire and now I'm gonna get fired because I have no instincts and and then got

blast Jimmy, but as you like not, I was my idea. We'll have to do that, like I don't think you can sell, that's how I almost got fired, but not in my head. I think you'd probably almost got fired you, many times just that I swear to God and ok. I don't Ya Tiger just that time, but yeah, but that was a thing like. Why are they friends with this crazy person? Can I give saying like well? If they act like their friends with me, then I think everyone will believe that their friends with me like, if they don't start if they dont roll their eyes after everything I say or then I think we can sell the world on the idea that we're friends, so it must be true. I dont know how I can you like me in that I cant connect to People come up and say murmur that time that you did such as such. I never know what they're talking about. Ah, you made some friends, episodes it haven't seen by everybody ten times,

around the world and you dont. Have I don't watch him ten No, but also you don't have an emotional connection too at the moment when you fell at the window into the butterscotch. You know they remain here ever had the one about the butterscotch. Actually, I'm thinking wait. I found a butterscotch, but I can't I don't remember now terrible man, you don't have an emotional and it's interesting people that are into it. Don't understand. They don't understand that you have emotional connection to that moment, because that was a day in your life. Fifteen years ago, or whatever I know well. This will sound really ninety, but also cause if I was being Phoebe, so I dont store those memories right. If that makes any sense at all, nope. You asked me how take her away boys, I mean I I just I myself feed our service, so I have

the experience of cost- you on to do whether things I've always loved. Is it you take on these? Incredibly, these different projects that are very smart, that are very their friend and not crowd. Play there's no way I've. I love the come back and I have to tell you yesterday: one started asking me- know where is she going to make more of the comeback? Is LISA going to make more to come back and first of all I was you know, I didn't know this person and I didn't know why They were asking me about what I was up to the light number where there. So I noted that I've got some stuff coming to you now that is a hard cash radios back yeah, Now that come back by, I love the come back, but I should tell you this because I'm care about you and feel connected to you when the, when the other characters were being really cruelty. You

that show it upsets me yeah used to upset me. My husband has the same issue. I was really jail felt the same way. Yeah Michel can't he's never seen I mean he gave seem like one or two episodes he can't he can't get through it. He visited the set the first season and he saw scene, and he just like looked around like some of the riders in just one who wrote that who wrote that for my wife to have to live through an they just went she do you did it. Where do you think I've been? yeah like before we started. Shooting the writers room. Writing it and hate me he can couldn't handle it. I don't understand it understand what you're saying I don't understand it. It's it's

It is not me unless it is me- and I don't know, I don't know it out- I it's not that it's you, but it is your playing the part and you're. Really this vulnerable character was attempting. This come back. There was an actor in particular who so good play their head writer Polly Jolly De Lance barber yeah, let's Barbara Dan's, young Sheldon. Yes, I M a terrific actor, but has so good at being absolutely cruelty. You then I would watch it with my wife and I would get upset and I would be like I don't I don't it by third may that someone was being that mean to you, which is a credit to you and to Lance and everyone who made the show you get invested in it. I didn't like it. I didn't like that I love the show, but I didn't like that you were being put through the ringer.

But you are willing to be put through the ringer, which I think made an amazing show rack, but I mean look. I don't think I've ever been treated that poorly, but I mean I, I think, being in this business, you are being put through the Ringer well meet grinder. That's why our poster was. You know her, throwing herself with the big smile on your face into a meat. Grinder nearing has used signing up for it, but I mean that's what it is. You know your guest are on. A show in Vienna still have time to be nice to use, are busy they're trying to figure out their other staff, and you know it's it can be it's hard. You have to be completely ego less. You have to be tough and understand. What's and not take anything personally, you know right now. I don't know I loved every time. I love every moment playing that woman every moment that even like she's clocking being hurt, but then thinking it. Ok that never have

in the same everything's, fine, I'm fine, I'm fine, oh yeah, he's real she's, real and relentless, and then there's like a part of that. A first you know I'd be when we were fruit, came up with their character and you know and we're gave out. I thought I was I was making fun of her, but as we were going on. I started to admire her that she's tough turns out she step as nails. She knows what she wants, and here is, unfortunately, in a mouthful of crocodiles, you, after class to get their and our I'd go problem.

Just like you step lightly alive and he took my ankle, I've got another one everything's, fine, it's fine here is now and that there is a big part of me. That rationalize is things you know, sometimes do my detriment, but I don't know I thought that was so fond of me so, but I understand that people how problem watching that, especially that first season plus because it was like two thousand five- I think right. You know when we did that in Vienna on us anymore. I pass the have. Ok, I just ran a thought to good will and I don't care. You mentioned your husband. I'm a huge fan has been a lot of time with your husband Michel. One of the handsome man. Yes continues to be one of the most unease, effortlessly handsome. He just he's this incredibly good looking were

Lee Guy with a great sense of humour, and I love being around him and aspire to I'm atomism around him, and I want to be like Michel he just as our is dressed. Well, yes, funny unease has a french accent, which I think gets you Fifty percent area off everything in life. It doesn't matter They get discounts disease as a french accent. I think so yeah yeah. I think so. I think a lot of times people think some people think he's like doing a caricature of a french guy like now. That's. That was him, maybe achieve it to myself, but will he does insist on he's the one that always orders the wine yeah here we go out Here- is the wine and he's really orders it carefully and smells it, and he does the thing that you're, a french caricature would do gag vat, and I do not mean yeah now, you I know he's dismissing the Baghdad and barometers.

Bicycle ethical, but I feel like he's a good counterweight to you and that's what a lot of marriages are, as you find the person who can bear not bring what you bring to the table but bring- something different to the table piano and you have all of, superpowers and then he has. The strength is completely different area was able to say like all. Maybe you don't worry about it. You know it's a year now. It's true. I mean it's true, how not to say without getting all our group a bad at that I don't know I had a bad. I I had a bad dream last night and you know I couldn't do you want a scream at the villain in your dream and your paralyze right and you can't and done. They always able to get out really clearly and no- and I thought because when I heard a coming out of my mouth- me up and Michel had grabbed me and yanked me to him like rescued me, and that was in a dream. He did it. That's fantastic

This morning I was kind of blown away and then we will hope I've. I went you rescued me. Anyone use movie that matter. Wait who was the villain? I don't know I'm going to know him. No, I didn't know is not like a famous person, no no was intervals and was Gerald Ford, now there are less and who knows a former president right now. I want to stress if it wasn't, but I sense it was sort of like you know. I got NEO Nazi type, something what it was, and I think I was an argument that you know because it's me he was gonna end in he was gonna. Try to kill me so here, right now. I think my wife would push me aware. Get up in an hour ned to the better. The bus stop get

well. Have you tried to rescue her, maybe say I know your wife she's, the best she's, very good God. I love her. Doesn't rescue me in bed, though, what I try that tonight, I'm gonna cry going to test her and see. If she and I it, then I yell out no no you're getting me now. You see there lies a pull me torture to protect me. What is the Nautilus MAC you awake or say your wagons they shut up girl would go to the guest room. I've gotta get up soon, and I know what I'm betting on LISA, what I time's up, not hashtag, just God now eager to speak up

meaning when they were when they come for me in the house. I don't know your lie, I don't know that's why I came quickly saturated. I don't know your yeah cornered area surplus, I've. I've made my lie. What now I've revelling ruthlessly differ. I've ruthlessly for many decades, made myself a sex and I ask my pretend its paid off see its pathos of five years. People saying that no more sex appeal, I don't know, there's a reason. I dont know wise man, I mean there's about time. I know it. I know you're a gender neutral. We find if I also Gawker and you're the one who told me be ACE. It'll pay are you, I know it. I know in eighty six, you know what I know: gender Neutral LISA spending time. If you want my favorite things in the world me too and I

so we are to have you come in because this is how we talk anyway and that there's microphones here and I'm gonna make tens of dollars offer this. It was. This is a real treat. I love you and I thank you so much for being here and and I want it- So, let's get another dinner on the book. I get to spend time with your husband. Ok, my true love. That's two guys can create hair, create hair, great silvery, hair and he's always got cooled, and his handsome lucky he's got word is no better than we Sokoto I'll, say that now so that now and I'll say it forever, thanks, Cannon Lapierre levy to peace out too wasn't really. It was too bad. I now it's time for a segment called corner. O Brien is off the mortgage on his beach house,

It is a bit of an experiment. I have been travelling in Sydney, Australia, shooting a show of travel, show a kind without borders. Episode also did alive show, and I was there a kind of lost my voice, but I think it's coming back and now I'm on an airplane along If Mr Aaron Blair and everybody we found a small nook of the airplane, I dont know if were allowed to do this, but bless you set up some equipment is a lot of wires all over the floor. Yeah. No one really is in this day and age, surprising that we haven't been tackled. Yet we are seven thousand four hundred and thirty miles from LOS Angeles. We, thirteen hours until our flight lands yeah, I guess what were the outside AIR Temple. I would say its thirty two degrees below Celsius.

In Fahrenheit W minus twenty six sets a good guess yeah. I wanted to just talk briefly because I think the point this podcast part of it is to entertain. I want to say about five percent of it is eighteen. Ninety five percent of it is for people to learn more about me. That's and really get to know me and said I thought maybe I'd talk quickly about my travel routine, that's something people! Probably I travel allowed people Bobby weren't, my Regina and you do have a very specific routine. I do I'm wearing a very comfortable, sweat, pant. That looks like regular pants there like dress like dress. What pants I could go run a marathon right now or I could get away bar mitzvah became replace out on the time, often you're, ready breast thinkers of breasts in in business class, I'm currently upon me wondering when I'm reading your voracious reader, I'm reading Robert Karras book working it's a book on her

working methods and I'm also reading journals book General Ulysses S, Grant here's what I do and I read a book on historic figure in a way probably sick, I the parallels between his life in mine, no so I'll be reading about his siege of Fredericksburg, and I'll. Think yeah. That's like the time I got into a fight with my landlord, in a way when I was doing three hundred eighty dollars a month for an apartment and we got into our squabble. I held out the way he held out his knee I can be about Julius Caesar. You know four, the Gauls and I'll, be thinking yup? That's me. That's me that time that I thought did they overcharged at the right aid for my hand, cream so yeah, it's sad but I will drink a lot of water

we'll go to the bathroom to urinate. Every eight minutes sets a lot of very specific information. I am very good at urinating. Everyone has things they do well. Ok as I neer in aiding yes, if you're standing outside the bathroom amusing you'll hear me shouting, I'm good at this. Was it a God given gift or is it through a lot of practical thing else practice? How do you stay healthy again? This trip I sick, we ve noticed I had through yeah yeah. I shake a lotta hands. Yes, it's a habit. I've had my whole life, but after I shake someone's hands, I immediately lick. Might the problem and I was wondering about that- I always liked I the palms of my hands and say good, handshake but You know we're here were traveling is another thing to do. This is another travel Tipp wasted. Ice a lot way or on the plane. As I read your worrisome, waste riser moisturize you face waste. Raise your hands like someone dry. My chest: that's

and my precise terms not just constantly keep areas moist, because a plain will dehydrate you do you like assent or an unknown now, while if it's going to be assent, I wanted to be something like beef. It's a smell like a flag state, that's been cooked, medium rare withstand. So that's it! That's the scent I like you just came out of a Mongolia barbecue, here's another good You can do to jail time on light. I went to walk up and down the Isles and in he's myself to people, ok, try and get the word out on my career. If they have his sleep, has gone. I just live to sleep mask Pope them. They are often a little startled and then I say hey, Canada, Brian CBS, I'm on eleven. You can also see my travel says on Netflix. They get upset. Invariably explain to them. Look. The profession I have chosen. Yes and you chose to be in a fight with me, so you know five years in show business- is that an accident every flight, your eye when worrying, pretty clearly and accidents? It's up,

There was a second oil spill, bad accidents, here's another thing you can do to long flight. Yes, folks, if you're listening record apart, just always bring Rico women with you, an ineffable sidekick and record. Yes, why not what we have fifteen hours? We have fifteen hours. I think this should be fifteen our episode? I think people said and I can keep giving you updates. We are now at five hundred and seventy five miles. Brower picked up speed or the Pacific, do you have an estimated arrival time? Well The gas, but I'm gonna gas is gonna, be five. Fifty five, a m in LOS Angeles, think what they have always admired about. You is you keep in shape? Thank you. And you your showing me some stretches, really managed to do. A lot of invasive crotch stretches on a plane. I liked you that stretch it looks your crouching down on the floor. Yeah yearly does look like you know, I have to say it like you're devastating by but you're, not you not occasionally. It happens, but

you know how loudly what if he's gonna sound like I? listening to this on north causing headphones, and it is a very loud yeah that is this. Since the sound of this flight. This point is airlines flight. They are now paying me anyway to say this with a cigarette airline is and one thing and actually that's kind of great I've never seen before the quantity does is they gave us all pyjamas a top and bottom they just go. Top really yeah. That's when I send where's my bottom and they exactly they gave me a meaningful look. I don't even know what that means. Jet lags noise dries babbling like a chimp, I will say one thing. I think that surprise me about this happened on tour as well. You have a certain regiment the morning. Yes, are you I guess, there's a consistency, is you always eat I bring. In Syria with me: the little bag

my puffin cereal, I think it's the most amass, do anything in the world to carry around breakfast she'll. Do then, as I have often been humiliated by I liked I, like it, it's. You know it's a fairly healthy cereals, very low and sugar, but to walk into a dining room and have the hostess see you Yes, I'm a married man and I'm a faithful, married man, but I would still like women to see me. As a everyone wants me out. I was we want it as a sexual being a sexual being. Thank you. Yet I hate walking into the dining room when I'm travelling to get my breakfast and I have a little, you have a little wax bag that comes inside the cereal box. Yes, got the puffins in it and I have a little elastic band around it and it's all rolled up and they always say the same thing you be Having- and I say well I'll you know I'll have Vienna lives, more insidious and just an empty ball and some moment milk and then a hold up the bag, and I say- and I already have my puffins surreal

This is a real say. Is it true that you're not me I go? Oh I've got my puffins. They hold up this sad wrapped up. Wax bag with elastic and I can see right then, and there they now that I am incapable of procreating. There is no seed in this man. Citys. The actual threat here. This is why my wife never worried about me on the road. She knows that the good prophylactic and who world is like. The egg of persons carry into the dining at listen. Right now this is the no podcast announcement J Times

now I M not just one other announcement. If anyone on board is recording up our basis cease immediately, violation of vines national rose. I will say it is funny his we're sitting. Weird little nook in and flight attendants could come. And the current going like yeah they act sketches? podcast equipment, and I mean it could be anything. It's cool, does look like it: fires surface to air missiles, cells, chaos, there's a lot of lights and wires everywhere and who should wrap this up and ass. I think we're minutes away from being seized. How do you plan on spending the rest next fourteen hours and forty minutes I got, I want to meet everyone on the plane, so can. I go up into the cockpit and talk to those guys of Lord. I to make surprise announced ok from thirty one thousand feet at minus thirty five degrees Celsius want is airline

right. This is gonna Brian wishing you off very little turbulence,

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