My name is Ben Stiller, and I feel excited yet my breath about me. Cones friend and I don't mean in a negative way feel it may be. The ship has sailed back to the fence, hello there and welcome to car o needs a friend

MRS E upon gasped rise search for friends in the world's pretty natural thing to do and its working so far, I've made a bunch of friends very excited about it. I'm joined in my quest by my trusty assistance, Southernmost s in his on a high conan and met goarly. The priests are extraordinary, I feel good

this is an exciting one. We ve talked to a lot of incredible people. So far this gentleman I met him. I sent out live way back in the day. He remains one of the funniest people, Ben Stiller, terrible, wanted to start out on a positive note. This is, I am not holding my breath, afraid, not negative. I feel like I want to be your friend. I do want to be your friend, I dont body with a hindrance lie, feel like it. Just hasn't happened yet, and we know each other kind of like for like what, like, maybe thirty years, what I wanted again. It was owing to their were. Really I mean, is a thirty year. I feel like its thirty. I feel yes, I s and I can tell you exactly the first time I saw the image of Ben Stiller. I was it live and this tape came in and it would

I think we heard that this new guy might becoming an animal nineteen, eighty, nine, eighty eight somewhere on there is he came in and All I knew I heard was you gotta see this? He gotta see this and I watched it and it was you doing a Tom cruise yeah you at nailed and Does it take off, and I know I remembered color of money being in there was all color of money or other seems to know it was a take off on the color of money called a hustler money here embodying the bowling instead of poor, and it was a short that I made with. I was in a play, a plague believes that was running again. Appointed on Broadway started Lincoln Centre and John Maloney in Chile, Haggerty and so

because all these people in the castaways the play was a big success at a small partners. Like my first job right, I got everybody in the castor to be in this little spoof, but I made him an eye and then got it on s now. Somehow it was so. I remembered exactly where I was back in the writers room and there was a big clunky vcr and some one had it like. I had in a thirty five inch t pick it up that it was back in the day we have this giant reckon we said it in it was hilarious. It was hilarious, remembered you captured this It must be, out there somewhere, but you you capture this this face. The Tom cruise makes this sort of joyous cocky, yeah yeah has certain yeah has thing he's radio arguing in that, and especially in that movie, where he was all those scenes where he was playing coup in kind of doing. I think it is

Look you tricks. Yes, yes. Indeed, I think I know confusing a with cocktail. There now he's. Actually what matters is the phase of history of Monday night and entreated them like none shall not something was arguing and sadly does you played an observation throwing babies around and exerted by. I saw that and then you came in and one of the first things that you did it was your creation. Was you played the actor who played anymore? her right as a kid and you play him is grown up. The thing is in he's he's bitter and he's world weary grown up. Just saw her I stress this higher even and I was the carriage was in our joint guy. Dress is able to use the most mask

emasculated think could where I feel like that's. You know that sort of struggle that I think the actors have. You know where you're sort of trying to do it's about who you are, but also it is who you are too. You know, and I think that's something that is hard right. Look like a celebrity. I feel like that's the thing, so it's probably hard because that was part of who he was

trying to analyze Butch Patrick here as the ugly ensure he really appreciated. But frankly, there at their continent was the theory behind the character it was so in and then I could just see you have really funny ideas, but your commitment, your commitment and your very precise about the things you were doing if you're doing Tom Cruise is very well observed and very precise in your doing. You know this. This grown up, Butch, Patrick, whose bitter about play any muster bees dresses. Eighty mustard was very precise. Member thinking concern alive. It can be hit or miss at times. You know it's a very its vaudeville. You know it's vaudeville in its lie, live Yan and I remembered when you that's the, but that was the daunting link rooms, the lie performing aspects. I wanted to make short films, that's. That was what I thought you wanted control no. It wasn't control. I just didn't feel I was as good doing less

performing as I was if I could have a few takes- and I could make out of Albert- Brooks those who I want it. Yes, yes, our Brooks is the he's a white. Well, you know like the administrative or chasing and what was interesting to me is that you, you left us an and you do the bend still show and the minute that show came out. I yes here you can. Have your laboratory where you can get, just the way you want. You can make short films. You can get things exactly the way you want them. Yes- and that was the EP purely because I was the only way- really knew how to do it. I never x, I didn't think of myself ass, a comedic performer real I wanted to be. I didn't know I was trying to figure it out. I think because I think now people would think of you as a committed performer, obviously you're right, you branched out and not like a funny guy and I've never felt like I've said this many times. I've read it back in an interview like rice, I'm not a funny guy. I don't think I'm funny

that sounds like what does that mean? You know I obviously I do comedies are bending comedies, but I've never like I myself, generating comedic entity right, the sun and I love. I love comedy yes, but I guess I guess I think, for a lot of people listening. That would be a surprise because It's such a fine line between you, ve been so funny on. Just some critics well actually brought them here premium come on in mill, I mean I it's just it's a thing that I've kind of like tried to figure out over the years, because I always love making movies. I love directing, and I I loved acting comedy to working with bunny people. Yes, oh you know, then actually having to be the guy who is sort of like the centre of it. While it was fun as an actor to do it, I never really. It was never really my focus like my love. What that wasn't! My dream is a kid: it wasn't what yeah it wasn't your your passion, so I remember,

you have been so. Shall I go off in my direction? Workin the simpsons, then I'm doing a late night show and you really early on started coming by the late night show, and it was fantastic, because you would do these fully conceived bits that you would commit to so you known and famous as stellar, but you would come on in fully commit to the fact that- you were in a revival: Jesus Christ, superstar with Geneva and an EU with what I love about. It was that there was never any winking or any You were now. This is what I am doing now and then was you in and you in Geneva, and you had worked out this whole song.

Called. What's the buzz and your civil passion, the birds, tell me what the hell I'm obsessive about. That's, because my dream would be to play Judas and Jesus Christ restart, except I can't sing or dance, and I you act in question was now I mean I, but I have so. That was a chance virginal you let us do it. Oh yeah here is therefore at first and who we knew, who was sickly, like one of us who is hosting his own show, which was the amazing thing that was like the crazy things like. Oh my God, Conan is doing this he's doing it for real and he's going to. Let us do this weird crazy bitch, we I remembered can't consciously thinking. I dont know how long I'm gonna get to do this because of the time people thought this isn't gonna last and they're gonna it

They actually gave this guy show, and so let's do not fit with our friends that we really want to do, and you kept coming back amazing and we use amazing unrelenting, as do our I was mean worked for me too. I just was delighted. You came How can you did a musical parity of stump? Remember you do the number called like out from the show clunk this and I haven't looked at that substance. We didn't know I haven't. I read, it holds members at the blue man group to be in the bed, yes an end, so everything was really technically worked out and I just couldn't believe how much work went into all these things. It was, out of work during those things that we have a bit of his. I remember thinking it was at that time that was fun to do that. The outgoing go out and do that. I think also probably better than having to sit and talk and actually

be a person yesterday maniacs, please, everyone could hide in there and try to be funding that that way was what's fought. What's interesting, those I remember very clearly that you would come and do bits and a couple of other. People over the years would come and do bets, who were very good at doing it The problem was other people would see that they would show but but our show who it. Wasn't there, forty, and they would Shogunate go, we saw it Ben did or so what I want to do with them. I play a character and Mr Martin, you they are talking, so that's whose domain name the actual and well there you know was its alone. I mean I I'd have to really think about it and it is even we're throwing certain people into the bus, but people who did I've comedy chops.

Come by and say I've got a thing. I M a scarecrow, who's got a machine gun and it's gonna take ten minutes and the, and then you have to be a russian woman, and I, like my God, no and if you like, will bend Stiller gets to do this on your show. There were like serious actors or people who thought they could beef. I think doing that. It's such a like Ireland. Now think about like, as I would never want to do. Now. Right? taking such a chance and having to put yourself out there in a way that We have to really kind of ninety you're thinking about it that much just want to have fun doing it right here and there. People who were brilliant doing it in our people, who were like really brilliant doing like Andy Kaufman and people like that who that was You know, I mean they took it to a whole other level. I also

thinking there might get about maybe off people that listen to this and disagree. But I think there's a in your life when you're a certain age and you're hungry for a certain kind of thing. For sure I was reading the old Playboy interview with John Lennon, one thousand nine hundred and eighty this and it's it's a book, and it's this really long exhaustive interview There's a guy keeps asking: what do you think your work? Now you know U turn out that kind of work today and nineteen eighty, and he said you know I'll, never be young and hungry again the an ivy, sketch comedy is that world. You have to be one like that: yeah exactly something about when I wish you had middle, ditch and short on yes, similar so funny their fantastic and they have that they have that energy and they have that. I mean and they're just so I saw them Carnegie Hall. Did you see the Carnegie Hall should? I did not know actually Lindeman well, Miranda was there and he said he said that they literally just did of a perfect react play and they did and yet

how do you like? How do you have the energy and the just the balls really to do that. I mean they just go out there. Well, that's the thing is I hear about it. I was getting tired listening to middle diction Schwartz. About how much intensity and workers into it, because I thinking yep that's. I was like that I was in my in my twenties and thirties. I would but you You had to be like that. I mean it s an hour. Yes, this place. I was always putting myself in situations where you had to be like that, but even before us now, when I was doing improv, I had the energy to go and do improv here and allay and, like the this would have a scientology sooner with me who, before either of us had a real gig energy to try and push myself and another all day. Writing

comedy and then I gonna go out at night and I'm gonna try and create this magical improv world. I'm sure we were insufferable rent, but you took a kind of seriously oh yeah, that's the thing that is the biggest disconnect for some people in the world, they see people do comedy and They think, oh, they must just be goofy. Fine people, talk as we both know. If their deadly seen Steve Martens work and then talk. Steve Martin, you know their deadly serious and that people take. It really seriously often their funny, but there are also very very serious about. I gotta get this right yeah and then I mean that's the I think, the straw, Oh, I don't know. That's for always. I'm just trying back to me to talk about myself.

Because that's why we're here here for me, I'm just trying to see with the name of the case. I don't see a name here. This is why I am not holding my breath is Colonel Brian. Ok, what do I know? I'm just saying that I have always felt like there's a pressure of the pressure to be funny and it's hard to you know yet like that People like people when you're making comedies as this like as a director to and the same thing where people don't like if it's a comedy the bottom line, is the production value to laugh. Her and all of it in and if it's a comedy, the bottom line is the audience wants to laugh and that's how they're judging and they shouldn't, not, because that's why they came to the movie they wanted to know. So it's a comedy. I want to laugh and I Found that to be- We have to work really hard for it. I think, though there are people- and you were talking about with them, that it just like it just flows and like hey. Let's have fun: let's just go out there have and you were talking about with them- that it just like it just flows and like hey, let's have fun, let's just go out, there have fun, and I

I love. You too have attitude when it's almost like a joke. Even it s an l, I hear people like they joke about it, a lot less glad there and have fun. You know, like thirty Frida live. On the other hand, ass, like after the gruelling, you know, ninety our weak or whenever they spent to get to that point, everybody's exhausted, yes and then a k, let's go out there and you know but Playroom Zaire. My head writer, whenever I go out at ninety just says any: does it is it's his way of saying of getting on getting on my nerves, but what he does every night is just as vital, because I cannot, he just gonna turn have and it s kind of his way. Think I'll fuck yourself. It's very. He knows it bugs me. He knows I don't like era, but yet you do right, you do have you have you have right gang and now, when you're not- and that's what was amazing to me about where you do, you have to go out there every night no matter what is happening in your life and be a certain way that has to be sent to the people, aren't gonna, feel it hey do that

that's not actually not a joke. This format seems to me, like, I feel, like you, don't have to worry about anything getting in your way. Being fine, except possibly me right now narrow, while also what I like about the format, is I love talking to people in general, but I really like talking to people I admire who who do work that I admire. That's

the concept, that's really all. It is also feel it. People bring just listening to the Pike S. People bring different things out of you. You know I view with joyful bloom you kind of take on the schoolroom means I do have as their like, like thing right, a little bit become the first and I'm talking to you when you're, with Jeff alone, before long you're going. I know it is a lot of everything. Is sexual and the good- and you know it is through my waist mother who lives in Seattle. I think she got a little rattled. Bandages inquisitors seemed something sexual matters. Like my that's his joking around I mean that's, that's fine, but I mean I just don't let it get out of there. I think there is. There is definitely something about areas, yet everyone almost every time, a two minute just because we really have any. I think my my mother in law is worried that I was going to leave her daughter for several, which could be possible because he is an amazing closet clothes that would fit me. So that would be a big plus right there. That's right, you guys are about the same, we're about the same height and when we have based this for any strong relationship is wiring marriage, my wife close fit me and I like enjoying wearing them. You know, there's eyeing the healthy there's, something that you.

Spirits is very different. One experiences you grew up in show business, yes parents this iconic comedy team and you grew up. With fat and I'm wondering how does that influence as your coming along? Were you looking? at what your parents are doing. Stiller, Amir and saying, ok, I. I like this aspect of it, but I don't like that aspect or I Why want to be doing what they're doing or I don't want to be doing what they're doing I love what they do, but I want to go my own way. How did that all work out? Yes, bearing. This is my dad was a micro via my dad and is is a microbiologist as in these and different yeah, and I did was never

second rice, ought yep I'm going in the old microbiology game. I just knew that that wasn't going to happen. So I just I never experience that I never had the chance to know what it was to not be in a show business family right, which I think is I have this sort of weird, not obsession, but I really am interested in the suburbs and the quorum quite normal life, because I've never had that childhood because you New York City Upper West Side, yep nineteen seventies, young parents were doing now clubs are doing plays, they were doing. Variety shows, are doing game shows. They were going out and like playing Harrison. Renault- and you know, just just very it was a very show business life. Were you backstage when this is all happened? Ass, an age all the time, much more interesting to me than my real life than school at issue, the school I didn't. I didn't

being at school? I wanted to be out on you know like going when my parents were doing a series for each be. I want to go, hang out on the sound stage and wash them do that play it wasn't healthy for me as a kid you notice that wasn't interacting with kids, my own age right or am I was, but I wasn't doing it in a way that was in I was. I was just wanting to be introducing more interesting. To me I mean my mom would do sitcoms like Rota, yet another spin off the Marianna Tyler Show come on the summer with her shadow chauffeur, a seer season. You played a lawyer, call Kate machine. Second, our job and a member being on the paramount backlog just just eating it up loved anyone. Seen famous people of that era. Definitely, yes, stars of that era just seem so much bigger. Now this is what happens, is an optical illusion by it and also when you that age, that they're just I mean when I was a star trek fan, and so you see William Shatner her merriment,

love our burden right after rates it haven't you. She was on the ten thousand dollar pyramid, with love burden, ABC Russell- I mean it was for candy, I mean there's all sorts of tattle tales. This game show my parents said just robes ere. I remembered so vividly because it was the colors right in the even How can this into the sound stage here here that it reminds me of my childhood, because that was what it was these? These were the places where they were coming and still has the same smell the sound stage and we have created since TAT Day. I didn't sound airport. I do know that it's it's it's true. That view I mean. Maybe it's gotten away because you kind of fell in love with it, but it also de mystified it a little bit. Maybe when you are growing up, I don't know. Maybe I may I feel like I was it was strange like like my parents entitled tells, I remember getting really upset when they didn't win, because there

they would play for the audience and they were. They would divide up the audience and, like the banana section in the green section, in the inner right right red section end if they live. The audience didn't when money, and I remember, literally, crying being upset because I was embarrassed. My parents and Patty Adieu can John Ass Merv comfortingly course. Yeah John asked in the Father on the Adams phase, which is the show opposite: the monsters so stirring, Butch Padre, exactly all around we're gonna take a little brain will be right back what they go for many people, high schools and embarrassing time of life. It can be embarrassing that are a few had that sooner I did not. I was an incredible jock. What no captain of

every team, every single sports team. You can't change the narrative captain of every single team by ice, I feel like. No one would believe that lost my virginity fifth grade, ok, I was just incredible, so I don't know, but I told that people have a hard time of yeah, I'm sure with your awkward body see, upsets supper, you seem sorry usually when people feel really sorry, they laugh so hard. They can't catch their breath. Okay, so now you win, I had some difficulties in high school. Yes, you know I'd it. And all smooth sailing what yeah? Ok, that's really funny yeah. I guess the jokes on me yeah anyway laughing at you again. We hear nothing when upon Castillo here, no, anyway, this new show a new show called every things- gonna be ok, and heard the sun. They show up it's it's quite compelling, sir

I think, a key. Character. Her dad is dying Her gay australian, half brother moves in two razor end of the show is called everything's going to be okay and it's these two characters. Matilda and genevieve- and this does not sound like your typical sitcom Matilda has autism and Genevieve is just as someone who's dressed up like a quote child whore widow, and these characters. I guess have all these adventures. I have a half brother Nicholas, there's a funeral. Everyone shows up, apparently they he's got a little off the hook. This may sound depressing, but I'm told this show is really find a watch. I'm sorry, did you see a little off the hook? Yeah! That's that's all! That's always kid say it sounds like it could be depressing, but then it's off the hook. Now, although I used to correct ok yeah so maybe you're in Kronk Village. Why? I'm quite content- and I use that

equally way where a I don't throw a hazy over. There are oh, my guide, everything's gonna, be ok! That's the name of the show out of here I just turned eighty fittings premiers January, sixteen thirty, eight thirty, seven thirty central on free form. That's right! watch all my entertainment free form check it out. We started. The whole calabrian needs a friend. Thing is just away just a silly re end by it. Really, quickly became connecting people, who I really admire, who s who have worked with over the years, but we're always so busy and we're always going different ways and then use sit down with them and you get to have this conversation like I'm having a conversation with Ben Stoa that I've always wanted to have, but we're always so we pay

see each other as they do in Haiti. A good ok, I take hug, you know Paganel suvs, especially when its before a show authorities or after a show and his age as crazy. You know it's almost like coming here after the show, after you guys have done your show. There's a weird kind like post show. Energy can tell something just happened, yeah you know, and as that thing were, I think there's your adrenaline up, especially we're gonna have to go and do a talk show, but yeah I feel that took over the years a filigree seen each other alot seen each other and plainer you know yet it is. I know, but I follow you around a lot too. I've sense that I have had several people told em. It's not notice will at all unite, unite, hang around ages bland right in, but I know I do think it sometimes hard to connect with people like that, because I was folks, weird, like just call someone like I was late and we this is like a joke about in Japan in Lille Intro, but like

actually colleague afterwards and would seriously that saying nobody would be. I would it would be hard for me to do that. Ok, we're. So what are you don't have to talk? No! No! No! This is not just in general. Do you think you're a shy person? No, I don't think I'm shy. I think I'm in secure link is getting really now, but you know I mean I mean that's this. I am lost but I do feel like I'm not. I don't feel like I'm not of those people. I can walk into a room, go hey known, just like into a party and feel cool going into a party. I dont know alone, like Morgan who parting somebody else. I think only a jerk can walk into a situation or and be completely confident. Yeah. I'd think that's more common than you would think. I know said if we something on post mates and I have to go

door in and get the food that my while ordered that my wife ordered announcements when I know in a door. I'm feeling nor a little nervous, tolerate this person and make my job is to greet people on television in front of a studio audience and greet them and set them down. I'm a little worried about. Has this gonna go at the postman Scarlet and that's the thing now? Yes, but it, but I think that that's why I don't know. I always check myself a little before I go into a party and I'd rather be there with some one right, but I wouldn't say that, like I do like to go to party, sometimes you know like I think it's exciting, sometimes to meet people Dino into, and that sort of atmosphere. I think it can be fun, but I

and also in never never usually ends up exactly, as I think it's going to write easily end up like at a certain point under a standing alone, wondering why no one else is standing there alone. Are you holding you know that, namely article? It's? Not it's not like intentional. Just like you. Somebody else talk to somebody else, and those are you just they are you trying to just like act like you belong at parting, here's your drink or whatever right, and then you have to be. I think that's why the cell phone is the greatest to change direction of all time, because you can. Always pull out your cell phone exactly and act like you, gotta call and sometimes I've been in an airport and I'm not with anybody and I'm standing alone, and then it gets self conscious that I'm standing alone it may look weird to people and then I may seem a little vulnerable. So I take up my phone and I start talking, and so my wife comes back from the bathroom over. She was, and I have they cause. Can I really will I just wish

good press record some time on them, because I really committed a call to I just say things like: what's that now now tell him that's out, that's out, there's no way, and then I say all this stuff, it's just crazy babble and soda. Even around me, when I do, you really does the media that mean even now and not just on the phone, but you know when we're in an elevator you'd, be, I guess, that's the timing. I scored the winning touchdown and other people ready, elevator, Abilene, but I'll be on the phone, and I say things I know we're not gonna do that. Austria is the wrong way to go we're not soon wasters until you something you tell parliament knows how many times I felt element, if you wanted to do it I'll get there, but you better give it our having a man with an element of specific engineers. You save really specific stuff, knowing what you think you're every making that all I've ever wishes that I have some recording and making minutes this foolishness have Egypt, I mean I don't do that. I will be allowed. My phone I find in elevators is really tough for me like an defined very awkward and elevators,

to be standing alone, and then people come in and you know even if they recognize you don't recognize you just standing in space with people. Yes, for a certain amount of time. Weird, no matter who you are and then you add to it, people are going to know who you are I most like: if you, if they get into the other factor that yeah, then you can sort of like He gave me the finger today, maybe the finger a good living, a college with my daughter I can talk about this here is kid I was just escaped: is Wurzburg relieving the college? It was like it was a nice visit.

This kid he's, like maybe nineteen didn't have like wasn't edgy looking or anything you just was like. Certainly looked him in. These went like this, save you the finger and I'll blow I d like a double take two years ago, but what then? There is no reason for someone to give. I ran presented some Ben Stiller represented something too, and I've literally like it and know how to react. Please. I wasn't expecting an end I sort of leaned into because I was working on a high. I like I just want to get my want to connect. My hackles went up the little bit I just I saw it like. I wanted him to know that I didn't want even more worrying bribery. Scandia wondering I dont know what I restart ways. Likewise thinking. Oh, I felt Ali would entitle the actor guessing getting their kids sing like that, but he wasn't edgy he'd looking at local across sure, not and then, as I said, hi hey, I do and AIDS and he's still holding the finger and then he's like, and I could tell you got nervous and a certain kind of Babylon it. I just wanted to be able to say that I did that

and then he said I also want you know that I'm a really big fan of your work, what they do and india- and I think he did. Parliament, went back to his friends and said that he gave me the finger on or off. He said the second part of it. I think he added it at first of all, but it was it was one of those things are like I couldn't take. It did hurt me a little bit. I have to say of course I also like why what is his like? What is he? What do I represent him? Maybe I'm like the man like, maybe I'm in our I'm, the guy from this thing or that may arise sock. I don't know they well he's gonna hear this NGO. I don't think you'll hear he might end. Then he's gonna go like that's. Why did this now? It's legit and now you are now you're gonna. Let me the finger if he was wearing a lukashka. Eventually you hear this Mary will be just like. Oh, I want to tell people I gave, but still the finger yes and but they don't know that you're going to spend

If you hadn't had that conversation with him, I'm guessing. You would have thought about that many times over the next few months. Yes and you were right people starting to guess what right area my dear I represent- that am I a bad thing we did completely silly harmless reference joke once on our show, and I ll actually use the real name cause. I love the guy Nathan Lane, maybe I don't know fifteen years ago or something it was the old late night show, and we did some just completely silly, oh, where we just need the name of anybody in a writer just through and Nathan Land, but it was nothing bad about Nathan. Lane was nothing just we needed a name for something and someone through in oh yeah Nathan, Lane stole a tractor. You know something was completely random. The next thing I heard later on, I heard well. They went to Book Nathan Lane and we heard from people that will he thinks commons mad at him

and I M going and what happened was some one had just seen that I just mentioned Nathan lanes name on my show and just thought that it was in a snide way, Next thing I knew that they had told me some that whose a lovely guy I admire Nathan, Lane, I called him up and you say: well, I I guess people you know, I heard your shows does like me any more. Maybe people are turning against me and I know whose turning against Nathan, laying it was just it made me, feel so bad at things. Get work through a prism set. I were all as Santa Anna Merlin secure. We are like, I think it has to rule your life but like when it through its just the some part of you there that's gonna when that happens, but what really exactly like here. I am like you know, I'll do a character on SNL or you know, do Michael Cohen, or some like that, and I can't imagine what that feels like it's, not the it's not in my nature. You have to be able to have some sort of a filter

like this is just like a show business, and this is like these things you know far back and forth- I agree with that at all. Well, it's if spent a weekend with Michael Cohen and his family. You used to go k, but I have the same issue all the time, which is I twenty five years I've been making you make jokes about he. We do sketches about people and I don't want to really hurt anybody feelings. I really don't I mean there's a few people who deserve it, but for the most no, I want to hurt someone feelings bite and you have to make that judgment for yourself as you yeah. You do here, you know when you do your monologue already. I what feels right for you re ass. You are yes and you have to make that decision and a lot of them have to make that decision very quickly and that's not easy life to do that, but you

do. You have to really do figure out how to I write that line where I'm being true to who I am but also be topical and feel like this is what joke for that works. For me, that's I used to have a mean, sometimes when monologue writers used to automatically want to make fun of any new boy band. That was overly popular because there is, you know, there's that thing were sometimes commie writers, just wanna put down in Sync and Anne, and they would write jokes about in sync, sucking, and I would say I mean who, for small, it's not my generations music, but what I dont want to be, as I dont want to be.

Joey Bishop, the comedian in nineteen sixty four ways. We like many and these beetles, get me some earmarked later, and I want to hear this right and what the area they may have re, because those horrible history will frown on history will make you look like you know and, as you know, a steed I'm going to get this Elvis Guy ways. Hound right, I mean Gimme a break well, who only rather than like Douglas Interview with Martin Luther king of everything that now my parents did. My Douglas show a lot that was that sheriff s horse and I was like in Philadelphia and my parents are go down with big taken ill limousine and they co host for the week, which should be they tape like five shows in a day and might Douglas, was always like this sort of like a case like he's a talk show host he sort of like a showbiz guy and then in through my whenever eight year old, mind. That's how I saw him, but then I saw this you to clip of him. I think really tough on Mars. Your king,

about his civil rights activism and like whether or not he was crossing the line. And being I mean it was so it just felt so wrong, and it always is through that that filter about time. You know people I'm sure at the time he was a third like trying to be have a little substance. Are gonna be more than just seen over certain foe. MIKE Douglas. Everybody knew a scam, do tough interview, but I look back. It is like, oh, my god, that's your celebrating it. Yet it might have just Ben bad timing. He might send you know I'd. Someone may be told him. You gotta start getting a little talk with people. Yes, though, that you ve got, you say if I start today, it was on this guy, the regulating Doktor Martin Luther King, Arthur. I bring a mania doktor israeli citizens themselves and not by a doctor, a phoney area, Martin Luther King, which name is it? What are you talking about down with you,

score one for my Douglas and zero Martin Luther king. That's the thing is always in the back of my head is I never wanted there to be footage around later on. Right of me saying these names, Barack Obama, good liquidity. But how can you know the right? It's all I actually know I have that ability to just now. That's how you re navigated, the career that you yes, I have that's. Why I'm here to broadcast the age of seventy eight. What do you do like? Thank you, a lot of work. Do you like going back to S NL now is such a different experience than when you and I are there and we're around the conference table the Ladys and where feral dogs like I want to make it. I want to make it how we gonna make it are. We gonna make it now you bring back

It is a very different situation, but it's the same building. What's that I it's crazy because it hasn't changed and what forty four years, forty five ass yet it's a totally different attitude towards it. Cuz it got that time. I will let yeah it was like. Am I going to get my bit on the air? Am I going to get my sketch on? Am I going to get my little short on? whole career, you know, and you and your struggling with the whole week in here. Is now going back in it? It I've had such a sort of a crazy history with the show in terms of just my interactions with an I left the show and then because I had a chance to do after I did that short, both the Tom cruise thing. I came on as an apprentice rider and a your player, but I was there for six weeks. And then it's right. It was very short. Gatt and- and I had an opportunity to do the short films, and so I left and that really forever sort of like just made it a strange sort of relate. Should the Lord and I have certain navigated over the years and

I came back and hosted in ninety ninety eight, but then Two thousand and one Wenzhou lander came out. I was pushed to host and I was right after nine eleven and I decided not to host and created a little. Of tension there too, because you know Lorn tell he wanted me to hold an in retrospect. I wish I did host, but at the time I just felt like I can't figure out how to do it. I can see that would be you weren't you weren't our position here. I mean where you are in a bad position to do, no one who actually had to be on tv that, especially during comedy, would want to be an essential yeah. I wish I had done it but an event at didn't, and then anyway, so it was. It's been an interesting road with law and I am now coming back and over the last few years we ve great relationship. I really- and you know, he's such a icon- show business

how it sir and really that was my first opportunity, some I'm happy now to come back and it's kind of fun, but also still like. Incredibly frightening tomato do live performing, when their counting down, and oh my god, and also because the rewriting all the time as you know, in a show, like literally the the rewriting but like the second one we did, I think, they're rerunning thirty seconds before he went on the air. I mean it was insane and then you're hoping. I remembered that back in the day it s now a script would change the last. Second, you have to go and check the cards is sometimes being underneath. The bleachers checking the cards ass. They were coming back from commercial and they're, taking the cards away from you and your kind of walking with too few car guy to try and make sure that two or three other lines get changed on the cards and people have no idea. I have no idea how random men by the sea the pass it is and how much rewriting is going on and economists have to go with it, but am there's nothing like the experience of doing it, which is the European Parliament, is just like all you're doing certain alive and

in order to be able to live in New York of Saturday Night is like that. Every kids dream you eggs comedy because you mentioned the many serious escape addendum Laura that has got to be. Perfect gig for you in a way because it is close it you can come to being sort of income, the complete master of your universe right in terms of hearing this thing or yeah, you telling a story like em. You can just go into is like a you know. I knew was, can be like ok, this is gonna to be like a year and a half just like escape into this world, thank you know when you are creating something you're trying to both Gabe into a bigger, also trying to put yourself into a two hour. So it's as you know in this story, broke about that these prisoners escaping. And how did you know I'll This is a story I want to tell I did, I didn't even know? I was actually shooting zoo land or two and ITALY when it happened, I didn't even know about it and in the the news a little bit and then the right

This came to me with the idea. The guys that done bread, Johnson and Michael Token, and they had this idea to do it and I learned about the store. Never, oh, my god. This is amazing is, and how did this happen? How these guys, actually dues old school break out in TWAIN fifteen where they like saw their way through the back of their cells at how does it happen? and then learning about Tilly the woman that as yet used that this call going on, and then I said, the more that I learned about it, the more I got into and then just you know, we have been able to dive into it and then just go, let's find out as much as we can find out the reality and go to the real place, and you know it was an and not being as as an actor its awesome to see someone get to a point where I can't conceive of something you wouldn't be allowed to do at this point. If you wanted to do it, I was surprised actually doing this having this experience working on this thing, because I feel like I thought, maybe because I hadn't done a drama that people might be a little more like Brazil,

two in the abbot that I feel like people just want to see something of real. If it works for them. You know they don't do not judging there. I'm thinking who directed something- and I mean like most people- don't even know. That is a director that They know the word director and what you know. That's a movie director. They make the but the people think about that when they watch something, that's why you always need to have a cameo in anything. You do in your cameo unlikely of article nine, like Hitchcock. You have to walk into frame, look right at the camera slight, not and then walk off your way to say yeah. I should have done now and then the other presents escape their time or there there's handling out and just your heavenly quietly keep your enjoying yeah. It's me back to directing this credit gloved. If I had one problem during these tunneling scene,

baby night, almost forgotten Ben Stiller, was directing. When you look at yourself in a funny seen from a movie, can can you make yourself laugh? like him, you I'm thinking of specific in zoo lander, when you're with your friends, it's one of my favorite things in a movie and you're here at the gas station and you're searching idiots, and you start throwing gasoline on each other for fun. It is one of the funniest things I seen in a movie if you see that if I was watching out with you, would you shackle at that, or would you just be sort of staring, and I dont I don't wanna see, don't know the answer

not really. I shudder at the fact that we did that clearly mean laughings, as they know, like the same. Wage rates gets us not to have a history of ethnically yeah yeah, but but I also share the same area like laugh at the fact that we did Jesus grossly preserve our show, like the fact that we actually did that. I did some belong to there's something about Mary, the other day and a hands you like a long long time than watch and Anna watching for like fifty minutes, and I and I was laughing at scenes not like me being funny bridges like this, like Magdalen so funny reality, I so funny or like those in just a scenes that I made my goal: K yeah that that that felt like it was working about Malik there, like all my god, I it would be bad. I sit like I'm not screwing up, like you know, I'm watching all without worked. You know that worked well because they ll be bad. If you were saying- oh, my god, I'm so funny in this getting here

everybody me? Why do that with my kids and they may impose Roman otherwise machine love? It's always as someone who is like this, when I hear you're really funny John Sudan, as a guy and I'll say that too is face when he was a person, you come in and z himself in a guess who else gets me like a look of acts. It doesn't get burden that is either way. John loves is the person who brought the video Cosette of Foster money up to law and are you kidding and Jim Downy to look at when I was trying to get at Rio, Frazzle thankful to have guys a very sweet guy, but and certainly not ashamed of any of his best work. But now I just thought I think of you. There's there are so many scenes throw your career ray.

Really made me laugh the scene in meet the parents where my wife and I have watched the scene there's so much and Emily that we love, but when you're you're. Finally, just going home on your own and you're being asked by that flight attendants, to wait at the gate and yours so great in that scene and thinking, I hope banning,

able to look at himself, sometimes cause you ve. Given me, a lot of joy have given allowed people out a jailer preamble d like look, eight watch yourself and chuckled. Sometimes it would be a shame if you clear now I can sometimes I mean I gotta get that movie if it's a scene with Deniro, because I know it's Robert Nero yes, oh I ate with when I see that I come in a movie Rapid Amira Strip of yes, I'm very like that. I still think why sure again, the fact that, like allocation, we get an email from Robert in Europe is very exciting. Today has been more than to see yet too so to being seen like that with him and see him, and the dynamic is funny to me and, like I said, if I see it like a scene where guide and screw it up or the timing was good or something like that in a right, I can and appreciate it. But you know I am not going to dwell on a two because then it well on a too much than you like

I was twenty years. So what have you done since Stiller Fascinating She D c so funny you ve done a lot of heat ray rise there, that's the that is the issue as a common thread in this show it finding out how many people I really admire, who had incredible? Not a success are worried not dwelling on it and little and insecure about it all and is the thing that binds people together in this business ass, a human thing and the israeli Human- and it also does pushing forward to is that the balance of it, because if it overtakes you, then that's not healthy, not good, but if it pushes you for two go. Ok. What am I because, because I'm most happy when I'm doing something creative, when I am process, I because like conversed, there's like them, I usually the

everything that I worked on, something that I just finished working right, ghetto. It's like being it's a good thing. We just go KO. I want to figure out. What's the next thing? That's going to help you no feel creatively, challenging and stimulating are exciting sense demanded, and then I heard, and if you can hear that you can hear you kind of swans. You hear my swallow everyone here this, while I'll make sure we make our media that swallow again Cosette really swallowed desperation

There is great- and it's crazy to me that after all these years, the way we can sit down finally and really have a conversation now I really when there's a bunch of like it bycatch microphones around. So let's go out for real and I'm gonna need to record that too, because you understand this is a financial windfall. For me, it is hundreds of dollars and wants to tear you. Do your fake phone calls alone, while running tell him that citizens out exists, and he knows it to try and avoid I'll. Try it again. No, that's urban! It didn't work either. It's all right! If you ask me, and then people just like in domestic nomadic drills sort of engineering theme Hadley, as always, Brill always there's always and me, insisting whenever people or whenever I'm with sonia- and there are other people around zone and iron and elevator it's it's me. They gonna the elevator like

find the file we need to find new and if they can't find it see, Hennessy Noteworthy and there's no files just now, but I'm obsessed with like a filing system like the plot, every mission impossible the file and also wanted to mention that you, you you're more than his assistant, the right, I'm like a friend, I feel like you're. A psychic now has to be paid as you're talking about payment in the other s gonna levels, some something ok from scratch. On this, I, like the queue kind of folksy hey. This is my sister who comes on the part of your actually working. I am, but I am also doing is scheduled NAM, his assistant. She is my assistant and otherwise also anywhere where they work out. Ok, now I have a new assistant wondering about should sort of progress with her colleagues. It is funny because this is an incredibly honest relationship. I've ever since we ve been together nine years yeah and that's a long years and she's not going anywhere, we ve tried to move along or try to leave scan it just now. I think its end, we're just wherever I go. People want to know where Sonia so nice yeah, that's very nice yeah Bay, yeah, I mean that's pike ass, I'm pretty sight kiki wherever anywhere it works, really well, the whole energy daily and then man goarly over here is always region. Well now you know, is loop

You know I gotta hipster via just as always always is the beard. Zero even normally have a beer day also is always bringing in a craft brew. Ever you had a beard stage for what I did have a beer and the outer skinny time tight JAG. Can you can I just get away, whereas Anderson Rything Blankly very much, and I was in the pretenders in nitrogen yeah? This is this is a delight. This was really. Nice is really going to fire, and you know what were you when I heard that you were listening to the podcast and enjoying it I was thrilled. I had to say their lot, a pike S now like girl yacht, and I got into a couple, but I know it's not the same thing I could television shows. I dont have that much bandwidth to really stick with things I did not like intentionally despite myself, dropping off, but, like

this one literacy, Hyccaric temporary by you, laugh out loud allies, and there aren't many that you know that you laugh alone like that. Thank you. We're gonna use at an hour advertisement could check, with people, but yeah. I see how it is when we get to use it and then maybe your people wouldn't know. When you record our dinner, we can talk about Last time we recorded, I mentioned something that I had that you seemed interested in, so will, if you could bring over the object in question here, thank you will but after Erin hands enough to me, and I handed here, we go and grab that temptation to, so he doesn't call it into question. Ok, I'm taking a look now, as I recall, you said that this was the private.

Phone that was in Dwight De Eisenhower, President Dwight De Eisenhower, summer residents, while he was in offices, I write a threat and then you ve got letters that say us is this. Is this is cool? That's it says: let him Newport White House is what it says. It says. Newport White House with its new ports was his summer, like you know, like Mara, Logo is to turn this was his summer White House, and please don't ever I understand like in the man. My we know regain the D day invasion in ever. What and rescued Europe Donald This was on his own death. And this is a very cool phone. It's kind of a I just want to put it to my ear, forgetting that I was wearing, add funds that was the clank any idiot. This is very cool. It's from the New England Telephone Telegraph company. It's got that smell of an old phone. It's kind of peace,

green phone. It says Newport White House and there's all these documents at President Eisenhower's personal telephone of the summer White House in Newport. I love this stuff. This is really poor, just think that some one this was sitting on Dwight as an heiress desk his summer, residence right yeah, so he had just been to the beach. And he was probably trying to get the sand off his feet and I have been a star fish that had gone down. Is bathing suit, wiggle that out of what it is, I starfish star fashion breathing soon and no one is but to try and get that the fall out, but you know those things cling on and then he picked this up. Just as I'm picking it up right now and he held it to his famous Eisenhower scowl or what what's going on. It's me me me me.

Amy Eisenhower, my wife, you, I know who I am. I know I'm just laying out information and Amy I've gotta starfish in my hiding in yes clinging to me. If I had my guys that ever Roosevelt Likud Party shaking I'll, be right over I'm in the next room for Christ. Why are you calling me from the next room instead of just walking in how you just got that new phone installed? I wanted to try K well hey where,

as our daughter we Saturday Day, my God, send his daughter to detail. I have that wrong. That's insane it was he with Jean daughter. Did you know that stuff, Mr Smart Guy, who you talking to o always going out about this mad curly care? Sorry, sometimes I you know, I'm famous for some of the three british use that I've had risen president sent out o the teacher. I don't you just will be found him and make sure it ends up in his possession. Our will to him all right. Why are we still talking? We show their when you're just in the next room. Why don't you come in here and get this starfish off my answer? They write and why is this improvisation, so labored and unproductive now or have you never had an improved class? May me, as a matter of fact, I have I studied with violence. Didn't

well anyway, as you know, I'm serving an eight year term, as I had to for your terms. I also you know, I'm building the nations highway system, namely Are you is worried about the industrial military complex as I am well, I'm gonna talk about that. My farewell address saw but we'll talk about that later on and it will be feature. It is part of Oliver Stones movie. J, F, K, hey come on in here and let me get that starfish. Is that for any thing, are you really just gonna? Take the starfish? No I'm wearing my kimono I find this very inappropriate. Well, I'm having his phone ripped out of the wall right now.

In an ascended after that, imaginary goarly freak some day when radio comes back in a less efficient form as something you get through a personal computer right now, you'll see, I will make sure that goarly gets. It was called the pod cats. And how do I watch your work for a genius, but he won't know it he'll just contact him too. Then she shareware yes I better hang this phone up now by. I love you what I, let's not something couple said to each other in the fifty I know, but I wanted to go out on a pod cast in the future when it's ok, ok, well there you, by everybody.

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