My name is John Kerry. I feel moral all over about being Conan, o Brien French, except when his hair blocks out the sun actually found friends. I ain't gonna Brian here and now Welcome to Conan, o Brien needs a friend true now more than ever, we care is the second episode of our third season and boy. I think all of us are feeling like we need a friend dismay,

kinda covered. I think it's been seven years now. I last track for awhile. Actually this I have to say we ve had some very nice comments on line about people being happy that we're back, I think no one's happier than than I am because I'm I'm sorry. Stir to be talking to people and interacting end to to get to do the pie cast feels like a real blessing. It really does mean I I I know known enjoys it when I'm sincere and it won't happen again by it span. Numb I'm so happy that were rigour making me spied task as it really is fun. It's fun to get to make these somebody is always by my side medical assistance, cinema session, it's nice to hear that you missed me and met with the power

pod casting their is ups and downs with the process. I like the technical aspect of it, the microphones, the machinery. Dear no idea- I owe you know me, I make the machinery more than your your pal of place. I find you to be necessary evil. No, I do I'm I'm solely the ear of pi casting that's how good applied castor. I am, of course using one of my favorite microphones. Writer brand is that this should be the rule on forty four, because the two my voice. This has a eighty four x alight parabola scan. So what is able to do is really

Give me the residents that I that I need. I'm sorry you see ruined like you, have to listen to the play back you're. What I said to you forgot what the veranda make one session enthusiasm that I gave so excited, but yeah you're right, you get so excited. You forgot the name of the micro. Occasionally that happen. Sometimes I really like Beetle son come on. Then I love and I so love the Beatles it'll be like these guys are great. I don't remember the name of the bad. You know you know what happens when you get really excited. They really. You know tat is happy to see your wife again after having seen or for a while, and you don't know her name and just as of excitement anyway, what kind of external, using over there man, I'm workin on assent eyes or the old son high, so those are fantastic. I will tell you a true story: there is one of the things that we have to engage in a few areas. Late night, television over the years is an and much more in the past the now, but you have to do a lot of photo shoots. You know you if you

the magazine is gonna, do a story about the Red headed quicker of late night. They would You dared set up a photo shoot and I would show up- and I did one thing over and over and over again it would always work. The photographer would come out and say hello, photographer, would start taking pictures of me on this sound stage. You know in New York relay maybe taking pictures, and very we clearly on the phone the camera, it would say, hassle, blot and I'm the guy be taking pictures. You probably see me do this summer and I believe that in the person of taking pictures for awhile and be doing that shit Sharon, they always play kind of like coup music to put you in the mood and which always just made me self, conscious that they be taking pictures. I would see that the guy had a cameras has applied right on the go. I at some point and just going was added so it has worked in a country like he'd lower his camera go well. cameras manner when eleven alone, and then I would say next to it and you can clearly see it would say, like how survive you know, four point four and I'd say

there are four point, forty liked, it is a four point like you, I just my thing: it's really my thing and be like shit man and then it put it on? Eventually they put it on sticks, you know to get you know a lot shots and it would say right on the tripod. Is the actual name, Sattler Sakhalin anymore Tripod and be like using? back on telling people what we like looking at each other I be like yeah. I love you, you gotta have a blood. We have four point: four, you got a secular and then I would always take it. One too far. I go like what is that and it was stand aside. Some german thing like militants tighten- and I say so- you're using the ones that noticed and you ve been there and then he's always that's when they would look and then be like fuck you throw out. Do I can't access my thing? You know that's my thing. So that's a little

Speaking to my life, I used to waste people's time used to, and now you ve done it to our millions of losing its free and met my mom. It's always my excuse, for this bullshit, you didn't caused you anything. So what's the problem anyway, I don't think we can wastewater time today, because we have an incredible guest on show my guest course. One of these funniest actors in comedians of all time. You can look it up that just a fact you known from such movies as the mask diamond dumber, the Truman show ways of ensuring that detective, eternal sunshine of spotless mine, just to name a few now he's after the New York Times, bestselling book memoirs and misinformation, a fascinating cause. I memoir I am thrilled. He is with us today before we introduce him, I want to mention one quick thing

because we all know I'm talking about Jim carry Jim carry of course is, unlike any other person, I've interviewed on the podcast so far. He is a force of nature, so there may be some audio hits and glitches here and there why? You ask, because at one point, the interview, Jim picks up the microphone for the speaker and pay sit over his I'd turn himself into a hierarchy. I think He is a whirling dervish, so he's not wearing a headphones, because I would literally be putting him on a leash and see you might hear some strange sound. Sometimes the audio may be degraded. This is what happens when you try and record a cream. hurricane I've had the same problems and, anyway

Allow me, at the end, when I'm talking to Jim Gary NICE, pretty hard to do anyway. Throw these here Jim carry welcome. Is the craziest experience guys we're doing this over zoom? You are not in the room with me because of this virus that I just heard about, but you're in the room with me. You know how

This was your letter from Poland, O Brien rights lairs. Ladies and gentlemen, I wrote you a letter and you framed. I framed it, but here's the crazy thing is covered right, so I'm doing my own framing so check out the educated really do you can see that it's really uneven horrible, that's how all issues are going to be in the house. From now on it looks terrible. You know it's funny. What do you think of that wouldn't be pompous if I had sent you that letter already framed like my assumption, was that it would mean that much to you and if that's the way whenever I sent anybody a letter because it was coming from me, I sent it framed yeah with like of your hair in it. I ask you how you really doing like via shit. I saw ok bullshit aside, I'm doing fairly well. I've, like all of us had ups and downs, wondering which we can only hope for her ordinary what she was doing to miss now peering into the lens into the camera and he's holding what looks like an eyepatch over one eye, and it's so clearly the bullshit over. You really wanted an honest, emotional, sir. I'm sorry because you and write a note on them. Eminent deep depression, Jim and yeah, oh yeah, oh, no, what you gonna kill around now, you can make more of you. I know, I'm sorry, I'm sorry! This is when you tell me you of cancer, and I've known you would give it about thirty seconds need Buick. What kind of music answers are? Normally cancers celebrity cancers, accosts extra to treat me I've done, I'm grown my pompadour out, so they now it's a China. If you can see it system mop, that's falling over my face his inferior thing, one wonders of the world. I like working behind the waterfall myself suggest on your eyebrows,

the famous scene and, lastly, Mohicans for their hiding behind a waterfall. You seem well I'm doing fine, I'm always carry you know, I'm doing all right, yeah we're we're hang in there, where we were part of something that's bigger than us yet extremely out, there's a big bad browser of top who was making from self so well you're? Talking about, I don't know, I don't know either had forgotten kind of general electric. I suppose system response now

president, president, president, as an outrage, when did you get your american citizenship? When did you become an american citizen was just in time for Trump, and this is a nice thing, hasn't got your doors gonna ring and about half an hour jobs that Americans are willing to. We haven't had a really good leading man in comedy until you came along and everyone gets. No one wanted to do comedy is a shit job yeah, and we want to look good and then you said I'll. Do it and then we villain eyes you demonize you for coming from the North Sea oil by taking is still taking our council worth it in a wire. Why.

Can think of anything we got a lot to talk about is a lot to cover here and first of all, I want to take you down a couple. A notches gives you been getting away with murder. Wait too long, in my opinion, will to nurse we gotta bring you down here. Is that what this is having cast his about that it is all about this is broadcast, is called rip you a new one new always go awry would be a very bad publicist, because no one else does it and then you are like how do it, and then you really face off in your colleagues from you.

You know, as I find it to be very eerie. You wrote a book than I really enjoyed and that's why I wrote the letter this framed and hangs behind you on the wall, something you affixed to the wall seconds before this package, as it was in a toilet anyway, you're you're, memoir memoirs and misinformation, which you co, wrote. Wait. You worked on it with this guy Dana Vashe on yes arriving writer. Wonderful, then what's fascinating about this. Is anyone thinks a celebrity memoir they all? I think the same thing, and this is because it's coming from you it's not what any one was actually what I might expect but this is not a gym, carry memoir that any one would expect in the normal sense, and why find amazing is that you must have been working on this for a long time. The writing. I think it is really quite good and has a lot of really funny and dark stuff in here, but your

Basically writing about the end of the world and it comes out during covered. So I feel, like you, knew something that we didn't know well I'd say it's amazing always are working on this thing it was. It was like an eight year conversation that turned into a couple years of intensive a creative work- and we put our hearts and souls into it- yeah it was. It was amazing, as the time got nearer to releasing the book that we started noticing all these incredibly kind of weirdly. things that are happening had suddenly. There is a riot on Roddy I'll drive and there is yes, although these gases that are happening in and not to mention I think, as as a writer when you, when you let yourself, actually you know right down and in home, was coming rather than what you think they might like.

You know, there's there's some weird clairvoyant thing that happens. You know when you open yourself up to the universe. It knows better than you do was about to happen when I found to be really crazy. Is that first of all I love this device, I'll call it accorded device, but you use real celebrities in the book. So Jim carriers in the boreal cylinders won an icy more or less time is am just as real as anyone, but you know what I loved is. It first fall I've I've weed

on each other for quite a long time. I've been to your house a bunch of time. So it's odd because you're describing Jim carry who vision is governessing two men and I'm a little bit worried about. I won't talk the after the costs. After my warning, elves is not accounted for hounds errant, you don't. I find it very hard to sell a gym. Carry golden globe very hard thing to sell. People are very worried about getting kind after towards its drew fizzled out. The Jim and I tried to bright tried to writing drew with sharply, but a lot of the alot of people were suspicious, but I've been to your house and it's funny, because, when you're writing about Jim carry at home it's very funny and surreal, but there are also elements that I think,

I've been there, and I feel I guess this is kind of a depiction of you at home. But it's also not you ve stretched it out in its insane, and you have this very powerful electric fence, and you have these dogs that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. It are trained to show you affection and love jackets. You can't get that. It works like this for a while, but one of the things that really loved is it. You have your named robbing a name, checking people left and right, you're hanging out with them, and it's hilarious because you, the gym carrying the book, has this incredibly insane relationship with Nicholas Cake and Kelsey grasses. There always are from reality. Now really is. Apparently, the one you created bought a dinosaur skull for a million dollars on society, stretch their beds, giant stretch yeah, you you being one of the greater most. Do you know most incredible exit?

characters living among us and ass and always always fun to have around indebted to exchange. Creative ideas were so we ve had a thing going for a lotta years. We have this thing called the Oviedo we award than we hand back and forth between just the two of us lot attention about who's, gonna get it isn't very tense moments in someone's announced, but yeah, that's a form. Part of this is like you got me to do a book on persona and end transcending persona. You have to use some person ass. You know in the ultimate yes to Sally, where I left I was laughing out loud is one of the things I wrote about as islands laughing out loud at you,

Kelsey grammar keeps appearing in the book. Can we all know cal sees manner and his way of speaking and this he's that way in real life as well, so he keeps showing up on the book and there are moments where people are saying: Kelsey Shut, the fuck up, there's a there's like a grew who think Elsie please and he keeps interrupting adding world Lhasa. Yes, yes, yes, no, Rostock Elsie Elsie! Does this wonderful thing? You know that I've loved for years is his his palm his life befuddled arrogance- you know whatever it is that he does is to submit amazing. So he was the perfect character to cast in that part of the guidance section.

a dedicated ceci and there he loves the sound of his own voice and he he needs to express himself. He can because he needs to hear himself he's heard. You know which is true of a lot of us, there's a lot of different characters and and I'm starting is starting to trickle and now the reactions and things near cage loves. It came all the best lie. So, whenever nobody really happy because actually really heard, if he didn't like it, have you heard from Kelsey, not yet lyin, Joan Dangerfield emailed me and was effusively complimentary about it and loved? What the how I handled Ronnie in our relationship going forward and everything and and said she had a ton of courts in her mind, and but those are the people I kind of closer to, and then I got,

lovely email from Anthony Hopkins. That's out, he's he's great in the book to use our amazing character and we give him this sad romantic background in all of these. For the wonderful dramatic things that I wondered if he would go like a really ready ass. If

that is my blinking than ever ass. You know I've. Never ass always beg forgiveness. Later that's came he actually emailed me after he wrote it. He was thrilled to get it and then I was buying my nails and he email me two days ago and said that he was just so happy happy to be a part of such a wild wild ride end that we broke all the rules in a reminded him of James Joyce, and you know for me less than that. That makes my heart go a flutter. You know the portrait of portrait of an artist as a young man was a really important book, and so he was just really happy to be part of it. Any said thanks for including me with all the big shots, and I use this lovely in humble in nice that he doesn't think he's one of the big shots. That said, that makes me that investor always like that, the best the best people idiot anything. You know the best people know they're good that happen.

rub it in your face, but also that it has an overall security. I've always been amazed by him. He's one need only guys. I've ever seen in this world, who I don't know weary, is edgewise these in the seventies early seventies, doing wrong, but he's tapped his vitality in movies. He can still be leading man in years. That's an extraordinary jim! I hate to this is awkward. I just googled it. He is forty, four years old, his age terribly he's not vital at all. He knew right yeah, he was. He was in a bunch of silver spoon. My problem, you know what I mean he's really. I gave my problem. You know.

there's something I want to ask about which is you wrote this book and I think there's a lot of bravery and fighting all research by the way. Why says? Eighty two hundred men, whose put another name is nearing I'm telling you I got this off fox- is to sell it, and this is very solid and we don't have to wear masks a change of the mandatory. Now I use funny because you there's like a duality that you and compass that I find really fascinating, which is on the one side you can take. these big red. And really go for it and away where you, as you just said, you who try and connect with what you want to do and what makes you vibrate and not worry about how people react, but at the same time no but he can be a great comedian without an incredible need to please. Yeah and you ve gotta have both of us. I mean I mean and and when I look at you their early work in the early years. I think one of the things said was

so dynamic- is that you would literally, if it may be audience laugh, you would swallow silverware and hurt yourself. Do you mean it's it's this? I also have another side to me, which is the rebellious Nyssa against that. So every twenty shows that the comedy store. I would go with the express determination of getting in a fight with the audience on values, actually purposely get up all stages, start being derogatory and negative in whatever and self indulgent and singing songs and doing whatever until there were things strike flying through the crowd

The chairs sunlight, send a you know. Some some makes it was like New Year's Eve was swivel sticks in whatever is in just the angry bloody faces. Going far off my mind, we all want in Germany and in of course, that made me go even further and one by the state of the colony stored on stage for two hours and by the time I laughed they'd, sheer digging a standing ovation for leaving all through the crowd and stood up in in behavior sat up behind the piano June Next persons act and started banging on the keys and singing. I hate you off. You gave me cancer and, until you know higher audience left so there's this weird double thing going on where I want to disrespect. The word

old enough that I can tell the truth. You know, but I am willing to do anything to get did to get a laugh for sure You know, as far as its interesting to me that a bunch of things come to my one, a strange sure you you went into it with idea about what wanted to do with the leading man. In a movie, if so fascinating, because you said you wanted to strong the leading man, the concept of the leading man in a movie, the guy with the answers. Yes yes lose yeah and another call moves you wanted to below that I have, but at the same time, people loved this crazy thing regime into town Jerry. I can. I were like sitting there in the dailies, everyday howling, with laughter out of control with laughter and then and then walking out and going food are finished, in writing. Fitness is either going to leave. You call classic or we're done forever, we'll never

work again. You know, I think, one of the things that I responded to so much in it. You know right away, was always loved comedy, and it's one of the things that I always loved is someone behaving comedy were someone's behaving outrageously outrageously, and people notice and me kind of an you know:

Yes, well anyway, missive ensure right. This way in a cyclist someone behaved. The way is to ensure behaved when he walked in the door for six seconds. They say you gotta get the fuck out of hosting balls and, yes, you are no longer needed here, but what I love about that kind of comedy- and you see it with a clue so with Peter sellers, someone coming in and doing something completely outrageous and people like, and these just destroyed a suit of armor and an antique piano and the house is flooding and elect this way inspector. Now, let's go me there's no! It's not that untrue. I'm innocent can see in movies of people don't notice certain things. Are they just go like ok I'll deal with this letter is unless, but your realises, like that people come in with an agenda in

you'll find that all the time specifying interviewed and stuff like that there's a lot of times. People are actually listening, there's an agenda and they are going like. I can finish line in there. You know they're they're ready to go to the next, but they dont want to be thrown off the plan. So you can get away with quite a bit. I think allergy, allergy, Sasha Cone, prove Xilai how far you can push a person into absurdity into a land of absolute absurdity in an unacceptable eighty. And they will try to cling to an idea of normal joy. Yeah, she's, all money, Harpo Marks can walk somebody at the Maitre D at a restaurant and he can take over a giant scissors from his pocket and cut the guy's tie off and the guy will go. anyway this way to a table linked now. That's where everything would stop in real life, true the one the things I've I've really enjoying I'd ache? I feel

like you more than most anyone I can think of. Maybe anybody I can think of has your own is pushing you're always pushing. What can this point then do that still allows him to barely exist in society, because no one wants to be need something from you. They need something from your character. They need you know, like you, said clues. L peer sellers got away with a lot of that. You know, chaplain to me, was inspiring in their direction because he every moment into something magical. You know he he made magic happen with every little Monday moments. I you know. I think that way. I also think it in the way of like not pandering, you know, like I have a pandering switch. You know that I had that. I did. I not only trying to do that, but I try to go in the opposite direction, which, as you know, I challenge my audience a lot. You know a gun off on these tangents in my life and my creative career and stuff and left him a kind of scratching their heads. While I do

the new limb to bring back to the tree. I tried it. It's it's. It's happened. I wait. I've. I've been able to explore all these different areas like this. It is such new ground. For me, man. This is writing. A novel is just an extraordinary accomplishment for anybody in. I can say that for myself, as I'm only have responsible for this, but but you know the book is- is a. he's a ton of blood, sweat and tears. In an end, a ton of fun, you know I do feel like there are moments in the in the book, because you're talking about Jim carried and Jim carries Living Jim carries life is in the book, bears a lot of similarity to your own life and in their insane departure. Sarah just crazy departures from it, but There are truths in their like the press. The gym tearing the book is getting too stay relevant from powerful industry types and you need to make this movie and that stuff, you know you,

He pointed to go and make this incredibly artistic project where you play Chairman MAO End and in people's people are saying, the course the studios don't want that and they want you in the hungry, hungry hippos move, and you know I have to say, and it is as well there like yeah, we made the locks, the box works and assign a loss when you're describing it first of all it. First of all, I know that you and an end, Dana Vashon, created this. The flip side to the artistic project is the hungry, hungry, hippos movie, which is already pre, sold and guaranteed to make a billion dollars, and everyone wants it and they want you and so you're. Getting all this pressure to do it. You don't want to do it,

so you clearly have loathing for that project. When I was reading the book, I thought this actually sense. They could think able goes it never gets makes me at which makes me a moron spin off. I was interested. The vat felt like that's true, like I'm sure that you ve had pressure before for sharing is a constant is because you know every every decision you may ask me weighed against, like my artistically selling out his is cool to be doing in Odin, and yet you people, you wanna, take care of. You got you there's a whole consideration that goes on with every everything, I generally find myself a lot flying in the face of what's expected or its delving into new territory that that is risky

You know who I am I right in that that to me is life that, to me is down what makes life worth living there is like Jack. Cousteau does soften the tide pools man keeps exploring while he doesn't anymore he's dead as a donor. He died. He died because he can t when he went to deep rooted, ABC died, he bends right, he explored and he should know that and he should have stayed the tide pool and creatively been say. So your own example is a fucking terrible. Exactly who should decide on the point you wanna be shot themselves re now. I think he was like hit by a sob coming over restaurants, where he was somewhat awaiting. I made it up, I'm just preventing. I have a faint google here. Yes, it says you're hit by a sob at the age of the fatal credible and he was very young and you'd. Never actually didn't. Never, never learned how to swim. Oecd I'd that part will see on the Epstein list by the way. So you can't you can't just somebody, I don't think you can retroactively start adding people to the Epstein. Less ok, it's another part of the book where, when you go to make this movie, basically they do. Is they put you in the ultimate motion, capture, suit and

They capture the essence of Jim Carry and then their basically saying We don't need you any more, but you're gonna make a ton of money, and you realize that what would have been completely absurd fifteen years ago, if you had written that now seems ninety five percent possible. Is that question is being raised now? Do you even know yourself? You know the ip and they D, the corporal right, Sear personality is what will happen to the things I said or done. You know me right now: you're seeing an atmosphere worry you worry about we set three years ago or what creative joke you had three years ago might come back to haunt you whenever it is. Who knows was going

happen to us is personalities. I just I loved that idea and I love the idea that, in order to make one of my favorite things in the book is the idea that you know if you just leave Jim carry alone for forty eight hours without a compliment, he'll sign the papers, there's gonna be sound, see see that's. What I want to say is that much of little clues in this book than I do feel resonate with the Rio you. It felt like a grain of truth and therewith. Japs would certainly now- and I say this that would certainly ring true for me- is if, if no one paid attention me for forty eight hours, I would literally do anything. They told me to get up and the other thing is you talk a lot about the people that are managing. You are trying to control here. Constantly seek floating in name of another actor? Who could get the part and other Alias Der? And what's funny, as I thought that's funny, and also I'm sure somewhat true, I'm sure people saying a gem few, don't do it desk and they are right in that Johnny it s going to do it and then there's a part of you and you would

It is in the book. Could station bales brain enough an eight hour working day exactly what the things I've always really appreciated. In all the time I've known you is there any time over the many years became on my show, or did anything when I toured- and you said you'd do- wanted to show up and do something I didn't know anybody who would go that far and put that much work into it and I'll. Never forget you, you shoot. You came once the end you wanted to do. A bio pick called the current o Brien story? Were you played me- and you say hours he spent hours getting the make up and the giant wig, and it was you plainness incredible at unaware.

Got the idea of this character incredibly narcissistic free and whose abusive, abusive everybody around him and you throw daily down a bit. Actually, you did. A muted version have gotten o Brien slowly. Oil is awaiting everything. That's one of my favorite things that we ever did on the late night show, and it's a photograph that I have up in my study em. I have like some photos on the wall of cool moments in its you and the giant Wigan me standing next to you as we were taping it and see. In my mind, I'm looking at a room that looks like some kind of cycle murderer with a bunch of pictures, stuff and strings different, the room they break into when they realise that your life is in danger that I'm really bring ruin to be me and in a way I am in a way I am, but anyway you go, you would go. You came when we did shows in. We did we chosen Toronto and you came and you I mean you sing a song. You sought a lady in half you, you know you you clear kind of this and then at the end, the crown

was going insane and you were The band playing bongos after the show is over for like no one would leave, because you were there playing bongos with the, and I thought I appreciate people who to them. It's like a religion, the comedies, a religion, meaning no, you keep doing it or your art. Whenever you want to consider it, you do it when no one's looking down on me, I'm sure I get the sense that you plenty of era. Yes, yes, I know, but I'm serious people do comedy when there's no one around and there's no camera and you're completely alone in isolation, but something occurred to you. You might do a bit the tree tops eyes out all the time. It's amazing encourage value. Nuth well, you know the sea, the here's. The thing I am I am equally shut in any social butterfly. I I love energy of people. I love being

face to face with people. I loves talking to people of entertaining people. I also love to be alone like two worlds and when I get out in their world and I get around your energy and I get around the energy, the band, I love artists musicians. You know any anytime, I have contact the people that that make a living and making assign our life, you know what I mean just like good going. Ok, I'm an eternal this. Despite all these desperate, worries. You no problems in and in alkalies them into something totally cool and beautiful that people can live in reviews everything. You said you want a free people from concern like that. That's a quart of yours! If you, if, if it's a serious role, I mean even if it's a serious role, if it's a serious roller community role, that's what you're,

Our aim is, I think you must have like a hippocratic oath, which is you you you embody all of these to me. You at you embody. All of these duality is, and one is part if he wants to blow it up and the other part must do no harm like the hippocratic oath. You don't want to hurt anybody feelings and I get the sensitive you someone told you what kind of her dead person feelings you would be devastated the I would absolutely be hurt. He eyed on everybody feelings in theirs, their zeal, malice and my game. The only I hints of malice, I believe, are just a sickly me, making fun of human quirks an ego you know, and it's not making fun of the celebrity themselves, but is making fun of the system and the ecosystem in oh there's, there's no mouse and the daily bit of malice. I might have his sword giant. Keno corporate entities

hide in the shadows, no control everything you know, so I will take my part shots at them and data, and I wanted to like make sure that we didn't kill the sacred cows, but we took him for a nice fuckin joy ride. Most watched languages is a joke primarily for kids. Is my business Nickelodeon radio network two. I had an amazing experience with you, which is. I was at your house one time and then not that long afterwards, you invited me back over and I came over and I want to say, like six months have gone by the house

completely different and it was filled with your artwork, all of which you had made in the span of time I mean was thrilled clearly coming from a kind of manic place, but I was really stunned by how many of you, who are you I just I just you know I don't ever want to dart- owes me on air, yes credentials whatsoever. I've been on television for twenty seven years is no launch gives me the right which gives me the right results right. Maybe it's in my time I put member I'm going to put you on Ritalin and against your will. I give you little injections in the carotid and you come right down and I started forming senses. Wonderful. I want to say one thing about the book, which is that there is so much that is. It could be farcical or could be seen as Ex in a crazy impressionistic extrapolation, but also

I can really get a sense of your dad in the book. You know, like your connection, to your dad and made me think that I could relate to because my experience I think, myriad years, which is when I was a kid. I watched my dad like a hawk. If something made him laugh when I was like three, I was like that's the way in because you re not Sullivan yet I used to watch Solomon with my daddy's watch. Roddy Dangerfield, on at Sullivan, with my dad and as Rodney would make your dad laugh and anyone with a laugh, and I act along with it and just love at every minute of until I started understanding the jokes rather than are asked for real, but but yea was it is that it is a mirror things like my father was the funniest man on the face of the earth. He just absolutely hilarious, an animated in every way like he was living cartoon. When he told a story was like. Let us, then the died during the refugees on technical legislation, myself were say, and I would like to draw my eye for an email and yeah funniest man ever met Ronnie Dangerfield loved him. He was absolutely insane or IRAN with one line, because let me explain anyone who doesn't know you open for Rodney for years and he was sort of your medea ease to stand on the side of the stage in Israel.

The classic Ronnie and his robe, say not decided to stay with us. You know balls hand basically like like a perfect time, keeping pendulum suddenly said every once in a while, but you are personally to yeah. He found me, he saw me up in Canada and we, a completely different view of things from up there. I think that it Eight be one of the reasons it so much brilliant comedy has come out of. Canada is, you guys are close, but you're, not here and you're. Smart is very literate. Smart country and you guys are you're watching us. And you're, like sleeping in the next bad, watching your brother have a nervous breakdown. You get to Egypt. Did you think? There's some truth to that? Maybe now that's the feeling the feelings powerlessness right across the board men.

Equally with the good and bad in this you know. I just think we should all be honest about. What's going on, you know, and yes last house, I there was a way to let the people know don't agree with me that disagreement isn't hatred, we can disagree without hate each other and we need to do. We need a broom, the White House, man, we just need a broom, the White House, I don't know, I think I was talking to my kids about it today, their inner mid fifties- and I was I had them very well- three and add, but I I was sent here today and I was I keep going back to the same thing, which is my anger, is also directed at enablers people around him. We were saying other universes he's helping us get what we want and he's getting us a tax break. So

its pretend he's. It was pretend the bus isn't out of control. I want to see all those republican senators lined up in Hell flooding the devil, gettin ready for that would mean here and how it will. I get to visit you just because it quickly and you are you get it, I'm going out stuff me a mango iced tea and you there. The devil's, like you, just give a short time backstage Ass Addison, you ve got a Patsy citizen, five Non Jim, you will you be staying. I know you know what I have some things I gotta do of course. Of course, would you like something called drink, so we're not just certain ring. All right will listen. You know

Go with you on these anti republican ramps. I just can't you know is very simple. Bob Dylan said it, but no one understood it use. Mumbling vaudeville said it is as though was overdue. That's all just doesn't work. This way doesn't work right. It doesn't work this way. When will we hate each other does work this? What we don't understand, each other we can't go as far as like removing painful reminders of slavery to people. You know you know, that's, that's not that far to go. You know, that's not your culture, that's that's it! That's a dark part of the culture that reasserted itself during civil rights movement. You know this is not right and I think we would all those confederate statues which would make a wonderful marine environment foresee life. Yes right at the now knows, I can marry industry also, I you know I'm gonna go a little further. I think, although still

she came down. May think the minute you put up a statue of any human being is problematic. I mean why do idolizing? Anybody is a strange, less open, never it! No! I don't

I think only celebrity should be idolized. I feel strongly about that. I worked in film and people who have worked in television people. It is primarily working comedy. Those are the idols. Those are the people that should always be paid the most to those of the people that should always be preserved in the culture and concerns seriously as serious adverse. Yes. Well, I think we ve been a lot of great philosophizing here. Listen GM! I've kept you for a long time, but please do a follow up to this book where I get a Cronan, o Brien gets to be in it and I am an incredible womanizer. Ok, all I want is an incredible womanizer whose insatiable I give you permission solid, stating the obvious Jim, always lovely. To talk to you re time, Europe by how are you and made a wonderful and love you as a person and as an artist and his friend, and I want you to protect me, cause you beer. I am slightly beggar and you know what I will say a genuine thanks for you been:

incredibly nice to me since the very beginning and always generous with me Eddie, it's a pity, but I've always appreciated that. There's a there's, a real there's, a real kindness of in you, and you know I don't see it much Foley listening with as it out I mean if you bring the best out, you do in people saw anyway aright Jim God bless. You, sir, be well, and I look forward to seeing you soon when the madness is over your brother only six more years to go that said recently in the stones ass. It is time now for us to review the state of the pond cast in others. A state of the union address yeah. I think of myself, as the president of the pond cast. The commander in chief is constitutionally required, but I every year give a state of the broadcast, and I address my minions O K, those with less power than me. No, no, it's there all different branches of government. They just don't have power, and then there's me and what I am saying is that the state of the pie cast he's good. The pod cast, flourishes and thrive. We earn our third season of the pod cast. You know the rising tide has lifted all boats. We are coping during this time of pandemic. We have pulled together and I think

the pine cast is stronger than ever. You're, not the real president moment oh thank God. You're pulling clothes inspirational quotes from actual now I'm just saying frenzied. I liked you and, as you know, I am someone I'm a fan of history and I like to project confidence in com, and I am saying don't you agree with me that the state of the pod gas is good as much as I hate to agree with you. Yes, I do yes, yes, it is flourishing. We started out member early on people said: Conan can have a pod cast, it'll, never Werner, and I think anyone said that, but feel that likes to invent in my mind that people are against me. It helps me more than Michael Jordan. Documentary was always fabricating. There's someone

distance? They destroy them in a game, I'm so much like Michael Jordan. What no yet, let's just and is more shocking, been you'd, think tyrannical kind affair. Where now know we're similar ages, both very naturally gifted athletes. Incredible desire to win at any cost will mostly face of varying these years. The face of India winning in the nineties, and I was the face of winning the real winning there was way. What was I went, there was winning across the board. I had the late night show Killin it I was. I was just hidden it with a lady now thou and I really want you worry now. Listen. What I'm saying is was hidden it with its with our commitment with the lady. Well, when you hit sounds like we were some sort of state fair and they had Wakeham an actual malice and there was a woman there who didn't want me to whose like well just he can play alongside me. So I was technically heating it with the lady K. That's my explanation for that, but anyway, no, no, please don't getting off track of the state of the party asked in the beginning. Everybody was against us. Everyone said you can't make it to see. There's no way, there's no way he's too good. Looking, you know that's ways onto Yon Radio, and so then this happens. It will surely Dewey succeed, but we excel. We exceed people's expectations. We so incredible number of fracture friend in sixty up something. I point is so many eyes emanating any outcome they went away. I think, is it getting all kinds of free adds? Everytime you mentioned, will fracture Henderson? If you have a photograph and it's not laser printed on glass, then you're a fucking, more there's a fracture guy just go. Can you believe this guy doesn't first for free is let em row because early on in the pond cast identity, somebody ads for fracture there,

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colleagues do as walk round her house and will be a picture of my son on the wall when he was being first born and its hang up in a nice framework, a photographic print, you guys, tear off the wall and smash it. If this is either on glass or our white, my ass, it Eddie rhymes, ok, anyway fracture they. Why keep mentioning them? You saying that as your legs are just bouncing up to now, I have restless legs in China. Have restless shows that in my mom- and I say this one at the dinner table, my my leg- I always had a restless leg syndrome and my little begun. My mom sat next to me. We all six of us, seven of us. Whatever there were such about our seas, kids to parents and a grandmother would all be sitting around the table, the way Murphy Brown they all crammed together and a small table. I need your lunch, we're all crammed around the table and my leg had begun and my mother would take her hand and she put on my legacy. Stopping people will think something's wrong. I saw us TAT April. I think something's wrong, Iceland's something wise, that's what's gonna make people think that some things right, but that is not the muttering IONA Liza hasn't fund the least zen person. This ever lived without legs. Like the metaphor, you're the perpetual motion machine, it's always running in new fuel. This thing we do and that's why the state the podcast is: God it's because I love doing by cast a really do enjoy it meant you enjoy. Doing it be honest. Yes, sometimes will scary wisest scary. You know, I never know where you were. You can say to me, and I am just have to be ready for everything you won't, but man. You should know that this is a safe space. It's the most. I say: no, no, no man that listen! All this. I agree that it is the scary that I'd joke and I I suppose I Josh we should always feel safe Matt. You should always feel safe. I would never ever snap at you or tried to demean you in any way on this podcast and if I have in the past- and I dont think these things are there's no record of them, so will never know, there's no way to go back and listen. I know you're my friend and when I say friend someone I've been forced to work with the way things have documented bewailing the feminist, sir. My screen with your right now this you're looking at me so nonplussed like you're gonna, kill me nonplussed. That's my real face ass. If my face so I hope you have determined the Pike S we just heard from mad that you sometimes feels afraid yeah. I have to say I feel, like I really looked out cause. I do the least amount of work on this by carried you yeah, listen Athens next to nothing, and so I get to Justino come in and talk with you now my pal mad and an you and it's nice, and then you know you have we more pressure than I do? Any man has to produce it. So I'm I really do the least and its aids a great position to be added by the theory that you know

like all humans, I made primarily of carbon carbon when pressurized turns into man. Tell us means diamonds, that's right, both at a SIRI there. When I die, the coroner is gonna carbon, my chest and annoying to be all diamond carbon and I've been under incredible pressure. Yeah my entire lifetime. Would you think of that? I think that's a pretty accurate assessment, but I also think you put yourself under all that pressure. You don't have to. I ve only to be no don't Coney what what's the movie were out the genus, as it keeps me on the edge we're I be. Kate failure in the movie he's talking to his sway former why there and he says he keeps me on the edge of the movie Regos she's gotta- go right eye ass, her way as everyone gets, I talked with the industry and format, and you can tell me this kind of improvised and the look on the actor space is not acting. Where he's like. Looking at the direct about what the fuck is going on,

Yes, sometimes I love an odd choice in a movie. That's therefore, all of time I think I may mention this ban on Wall Street Toolbar on choices. There's a scene where Charlie Sheen and Martin Sheena riding down an elevator together, and Travis she's really matters. His dad dad just blew the big deal he had by speaking the truth, a lot going along with Gordon Geckos planets like dad dad. It was a great plan. How come you this unwelcome? You does it and Martin genes? Why is supposed to be well Sometimes some of us care more than just words in our wallet, and he goes well some of us. Sometimes we care more than just wasting our play the easy to get the idea of this light. You swear to God the audio, be motives that yet we gotta go again and again in the directory. Okay, I was gonna, do get one more of those I'll play the clips this is he get mixed up with them?

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