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Cannon, o Brien needs a bad one, attacked a coded You can't go dot, slashed call, Conan. Ok, let's get started, pay o Brien here and welcome to another episode of cholera. Brine needs. A fan, usually on this pied cast. I talk to people. World to have questions for me. I interact with them just normal folk, much better than those costs celebrities. Today, today, is special. We have two incredible guy these people are very important to me: Jesse Gas, and MIKE Sweeney, both both terrific Conan writers and hosts of inside Conan, unimportant Hollywood podcast. Now this season of inside Conan is going to look back at all twenty years of our late night run starting from the beginning. Ninety ninety three, the first episode

and it's gonna feature me Conversation with yours truly talking to, these two very brilliant writers who know me all too well, they know what makes me tick. They know it. ages me they ve got all the dirt. So this, sir. This should be interesting. Take notes because some they're gonna rip me a new one is an ironic that France and I think but the evidence speak for itself. Right will. First of all, I want to say a priest resentment. You judge, I want to say on a personal note. You know between the course we went through the crazy pandemic and then our show wrapped up in late June, and I haven't seen a lot of you guys, and so I've really missed you. So it's nice to see you guys again. Yeah I mean that Jesse, it's nice to see you MIKE Sweeney. You and I've been together since almost the beginning,

late night show we ve traveled the globe together and- and you and I have as well Jesse and other travel shows. So you know skeletons are buried them. Well, I don't remember a lot of them. That's it! That's why you're digging a people who do remember like, oh, my God did happen here on my knee other guys. Do terrible guys are terrible war crimes browser your constantly bumping. Anyone going! Oh, we ve been looking for you, but now we can remember why tell us again, oh my god and another shallow gray, fat guy. That's right! Next to the parking lot, Nigeria! So, but you know what I like is you: do this inside Gonna Pike S New, do get people to talk about so much behind the scenes stuff? It's happened on our show over the years, and that is the stuff that so many times people do like to hear about, and they like to hear how these shows really work and probably how people really behave

nor do. I believe that on our show, but everyone thinks you're. You're banter is scripted with the internet has sown by really know down. I mean some people. Are you wearing a wire and he's the kind of new mansion? If I did have a wire and my all those years, and it was telling me how to react to all my gases and so was coming up with that bullshit. but no we were I've. I've always was blessed with the very very best writers and I'm really creative left brain thinking. Writers. come up with the strangest silly, concepts and so thank you As for doing the podcast, because we did put so much work in dollars shows- and it's nice that you're

honouring that in and keeping keeping that craziness alive? and yeah I mean today. I thought this would be agreed way to launch the new season of inside Conan, which is for me to be here with sauna. oh ok, yea sooner, I get it. Oh you don't get enough. I don't get it When are you? I know that's a rhetorical question. Of course he doesn't get it up. You ve heard of you wouldn't be here in an announcement was now I'm doing a high passed after twenty,

years of being on television. Every nice you heard about bottomless cup of coffee, mad and Amy. This bog custody is calling o Brien has employee. We burn still welcome to an episode. Another episode of cholera, Brian claims of his own thinks about himself in the third person in an echo chamber, now Jesse I'll. Let you begin because my ingrained competitive contempt for for my Sweeney leaves me in order, finally out in your hair Jesse what makes see third season of inside cone indifferent from the past two seasons, what what's going in the season. Well frictional, think we finally figured out how to make applied. Can. Finally,

I'm talking over each other for road and we figured out an arc. I think the first season we were literally like when he d river whirling you're, like the janitor, as he rightly I got someone down. I do have two hours to spare. You know we're just going to talk, but this year, where, like oh, let's start- beginning yeah. I mean, I think, when you announced that you were ending the tv show there was this huge outpouring and all these articles written and people sharing a lot of old clips from late night and just from your whole twenty years on tv, and so we thought it would be or to start from the beginning and really do it as a retrospective visa in and talk to people from everywhere, along the way, there's one we still haven't, talked to you I'd cast. You have great story and can really kind of set the scene of what

was like in those early years, and I you know what's tonnes me. I think the most is that people will bring things up to me that they sign ninety three. Ninety four, ninety and I dont know what their tongues and when they describe it, it sounds completely on dual now realize we did and vat and will you have you ever watched. The show like like a horse for those seems needy must crazy to me, because you remember the weirdest staff that happen years ago, but you don't remember alive economy. You did well there's if there was so much of it. We have, I think, all told oh well. four thousand hours, so that would allow like maybe two or three sketches night. That's yes, hanging about yeah. It really is the equivalent of if you had eight three different kinds of sandwiches are different kinds of formula day every

in five days a week for twenty eight years, laudable and then someone saying You remember that time you had that someone read it was extra. Last year there was an extra mustard and three pieces of riot go now. I don't inanimate only it's not three pieces of rye. It's you know, remember what the time you and Leonardo Dicaprio were dumped in in hot shot. Her cheek I'd think I remember that, but I don't. I would think you would I'd he was terribly burn. I remember that's why you never came back his face was awfully that's. Why you twice very little. If you can see in the revenue the reason the bare attacks him is it he smells our team. Finally, Yonah Caprio skin attacked him yeah and you can see impeding it there, but I am, I remember that stands mean we ever thing is, I think young people or younger people- and they shouldn't know this, but they

its ancient history to them so they'll see things online by most people talk no back. angry. The shows me show me people when First showed up because right you and is because younger people seem to like the show, but so many people who tuned into this is when Lily ears like three may before networks and am Three talk show how our four talk show his naive late. I talked to us and people to settle weird- is weird show and so that its also getting used to somebody new yeah yeah. I remember early us now. Where did you know like Bill Murray who's? This guy? You know it's like you. You have to get used to this right in it, it takes a while, but there was also add to it. There is a lot of anger about the way that people thought felt let him

had been mistreated and human rights, and I was feeling that slots right who do you think you are, and I mean literally I used to go into strides in people say he who do you think that you are not a rethink wild? Thank God there wasn't social media back then I mean I wouldn't be able to look at it, but there was something called newspapers and I remember very clearly going to talk to therapy. and I said to the therapists people hate me. They think I'm not good at what I do. They think I'm a phony and I I don't belong in my job and my therapist did what therapists do and said? Listen. These are negative thoughts We have no basis in reality. Your cream these negative thoughts because you have these bad feelings, but but they're just thoughts. Not really. No one's really are not facts. There just thoughts- and I said no, I'm

quoting from the cover of USA. Today, like showed that there is- and it was so that they may a pie chart and now it's all blue eyes just so funny, I'm sorry it was so funny to be talking to a therapist and haven't go please. These are just starts and we know this is the Wall Street Journal right here, Conan, no good at his job. He should go away when it be mighty dying in Amerika. Now, let's move under periodical is, and I could laugh about it now. It was a brutal. It was absolutely brutal, but but it's nice to know. I wouldn't change a thing I really when it was just such twenty eight years with such a cookie ride, and I'm so just when people

come up to me and say I remember the show where everybody was skeletons and, unlike that you know like, I can't believe we got away with this. I can't believe we did ass things and it was a Halloween special yeah. we got a very brand new bill Haider. The opening of the show How will we show in? He did a great man and price. Oh, I wish I hadn't met and I think I had met Bill Haider. Yet one of the funniest ever, and I remembered asking oh, my god. The opening of the show has the most amazing Vincent price voice. Aha recently, as this new guy on assent now, and he he volunteered. He. You know he was a fan of show, and he did this great favor for us and that, of course, league up her eyes out is one hundred eighty dollars per year. The thing is: there's all they're all these of you know famous act. There's a comedy performers who got their start

on your show here in some form. Had you know which one of the funniest things is that we had a sketch of it was. The first is what we should do: fake gas Why wouldn't tell the audience so it was so matter and we would trick people went to thinking, I remember one week. And you might reduce with the new second everything sorry straight into so one of the things we did was Monday were due to show and on and on the top of the show. I say this It's gonna be on this present going beyond and, of course, the author of the book. You know our civil liberties, it's just you know the justice thwarted. Whatever you know, you know Josh Members will be on the programme and then we get we do the shown a guy. You know I didn't have time for Josh Mehmet that working on tomorrow and then we did. The Tuesday show again plugged him. Front very seriously, very serious title: the book we to the end- and I said you know we have time again, production. At my apology to hand the workmen

what we did that again when we did it again, Thursday and Friday at the end of the show. I sense so glad. We have time from tonight, Josh Mimic and this guy comes out who looks just like an author and he's got a book. It's gotta! there is total he sits down and he's living Let us do so angry and he's in that we hire a whole thing was scripted and, unlike so challenges like oh also now now No! You have time to talk. We came here every I saw in that green room. Send me and loses it and the whole things a joke. Somebody watching at home just thought. First, they had seen Monday through we doing this inside joke for the one person in the world all who had seen that was them level of minutiae. My friend I one person Sears yes, but by

I don't know we always. I was always a believer in still am that guides in the details that you put these little things in there, and I learned that from a sea tv I think still one of the greatest four pounds sketch shows of all time in our Catherine Marty Shore, and I want to go into naming everybody's it'll take forever, but it just is incredible: cast of of been John Candy came from a sea tv enjoy flirty and they ve, Thomas and innovate ran us, but- and this amazing show- and they would put these little things in their that were just if you were paying attention like your and before I even in people's called them Easter eggs, which just then, cared enough to do that, and I learned as a young teenager young, we know adolescent, that's you do care enough, the people watching that you put those rings in there and things would show up again several

the six lay, so we did a thing where we now one of our guests and again, very serious. Was this a young girl who had won ask the National Spelling Bee competition and we and then we brought her out and was in it. we hired this young actress who was fantastic. She was great she committed to it in full, the audience and the whole Joe. Said she's a terrible speller, we're having your words and she didn't get any of them. Right but she was so good and it was, I don't remember her age, but I think it was like a twelve year old Scarlet Johannsen allow- and so this is just those are the kind of people yeah. We also had the uprights is brigades was brand new, and so we had you know any poor any time you know would come in and play Andy's sister yeah

a crush on me and had this this giant gear heavier on and how crush on me and then Andy would always, and she had it was kind of inappropriate and creepy, and Andy would always sort of say, combats not really gonna say yeah. Really you know it's not happen and then she would become an raise these amazing speeches, but I'm thinking about fire power we had in these when she was in a millions out we yeah she was. The show may be four out of five days a week love and I just I just I just I just like how yet how blustery were Jack prayer and and and, as you say, not walls and all these young people that work to become showed, whenever one television in their famous in their own right and their huge stars- and you just take this- is hilarious that we had. These general and that they would come in and do this amazing work for us

of your so lucky. Yes, it was a a great time in New York when a great time for comedy great time to be in for our centre and just be able to pick up the phone, and some of the cause people would coming. Do cameo yeah little cameo? things that were incredible as they lived in. I hadn t, Alec Joy, Ramon, urgent Oh my god. It's time we enjoy remain of the room doing here as far as it can be a walk on, and then he hung out back stay rose and then we always had a post mortem, which is we would meet after the show. We did this throughout the whole run all twenty eight years we have a quick meeting at the end of the show in my dressing. Room would go through this works. How come that didn't work? What happened there? Yeah sorry, the camera forgot, so you know We go through what what went right? What went wrong Joe Ramon came in and sat down and sat there

during the meeting is he thought TAT he had? No, he just was wanted. No. What was up some german sitting there in his dress, like Joey, Ramon, another jacket, the sunglasses any sitting there and We certainly will just but we're talking about meeting rest, to joy remark about what it's like to be Joey renown and he had that thick acts in from between from queens, and he was sitting there. We were just sectoral Joey forget the show, tell us like I'm, same room where the fans, the craziest, and he- and he was just like- I can't do- is access to suit. Our work will understand this. I'd like South America, its go crazy and south mean he's in South America and how that there are certain countries in South America where they were bigger than the Beatles it would go down there and do a stadium and then they would try. They would get inner van

people would be shaking the van. So he's telling us all about what it's like to be Joey Ramon right and that trumped anything there. speaking of Trump, that was a guy who used to do. That was a guy the, but he was someone who would just do it's you do anything. He would do anything on our show and we're Lily have things. I can we get Doktor Joyce brothers to do this ridiculous bit right. You know where she steps and some faint plastic poop. Now she said: that's beneath her there try Donald drowned recommended to outdo, as is already there, and he to do all these best for us in this house. This is Emmy. Anyone now would say but Conan how could units- and he was a guy that did bets on our show great extra climbed in and what did we know, we didn't know, and he used to do. I remember

dead down the New Trump edition of late night with come a bright and he did the voice. Urban is like Gunnar Burma Juno sooner before John Style, gold plated desk, you know we need a sound and we put a big color fountain frontier ass, the outweighs the voice. What I do see bought the show that he bought the show in and gold plate at it and put all this stuff on it, and so it all seemed like funny foolish enough. Hence in van and of course now it's gotta be a no one. I say when I tell people that guy who now has Really have the country at his back and call and is may be the end of our democratic experiment was in

extra on. Who was an extra guy? I dont understand what happened that could have been her joy. Ramon could be got out. Why couldn't joy Ramona about whether there really is no mandatory? You didn't with a run for president here in Venezuela. Exactly I don't know. I mean that That's why I've always thought I'm disconnected from right guy whoever that guy was, I have a picture. You ve seen. Of calling in that guy. By the way. What know what I mean? I'm, not I'm not being surprised at this degree nothing facetious, I'm saying I don't now it was so many years ago, and I was so that when I talk about that version, whoever thirty year old kid, twenty nine. When I additions and got them right after my thirtieth birthday and a remember

time thinking one thirty, that's old enough! the tv show, and now I'm thirty roles and unlike your way to your entire Leon, I look it there's a picture that any liebowitz took me that will we put a sandwich board on me when I'm looking for help with my new late night show mistaken is at an April nineteen in its in Times square and you can look it up online. I bad and I have that picture in my kitchen I dont have any other pictures of me like around the house, but I have this picture that I hang up because such an amazing picture, and I look at that guy and I look at him and he looks I was too just turned thirty, but I look about seventy Look at him and I think she's got this kind of. wheat smile and I think you have our full backing.

because this is before the show started, no ideal, a jury like Eu Africa, no one more national who, how could you be more- and there was only one way to find out so- and I look I'm gonna go. I have a lot of affection for that guy, but here good Lord, about two one he's he's gonna yeah, but it was then help groom of future president what an arc arc! Of course everyone has their own unique Hobbes, an interest somewhere unique than others no judgment here. It's fine! It's ok, into something weirder super specific, because there's little is something for everybody on Tik, Tok, plus every you scroll, you're gonna, get obsessed with something new. That's what happens my kids. They do that. I call it that Tik Tok, because I'm cold day and on the old on the old fool. Yet it's not

yeah, but I bet they're constantly doing in one week. It could be. Anything can be ensure design or the next thank you. Your watch, inveigle air, friar recipe, video yeah, you learn how to cook. Alas, tat, for I feel even end up. getting inspired by this one, video about a guy who had a three d printing business. Yet he made three printed cup holders. when collectors basically name it. He can three deep print it in you. watch him. Do it his therapist home deposed about at the next thing you know he's got blew up on Tiktok Ah, yes, so you never know what's gonna blow up. I think I see a living to you can't predict. What's gonna happen. Yeah. This guide is three printer guy can't keep up with orders anymore. You know it's crazy, that's how big he's become. He has two three print more three printers to make more through

printed stuff anyway, there's way mortal story. I do want to ruin it for you just going to have to get Tiktok and see it for yourself, Haiti, cocoa, I'm guessing ethical, and I might sweeney- and we are writers for Conan and were also the hosts of Inside Conan Colin unimportant Hollywood, podcast guess what we're coming back for our biggest season. Yet we're going, listened through twenty. Eight years believed I memories starting from the very beginning, here. The inside story on some comments, most iconic late night moments will be speaking with your favorite Conan writers, gas and the man himself cares little. Take that what we have in store, me, it say. Lifelong religious pilgrimage then only ends with my death, which is a must keep going places and making nothing happened, guys, that's all was like we were sort of on dates, literally

the other person was looking at each other going. Shall we go what's going, so somewhere in the archives of thirty Rock is my audition tape. Using then paging form and wearing Conan make up and that help me get the job yet be masturbate they're in anything that was supposed to have been doing other than matter in all these other Europe is now and let them said you just Had gone on, o Brien lies in Palo, Brian Jagged prayer and masturbating bear creator. Brian Ridge listened in Conan, where ever you find your podcast. why you're speaking a jacket prayer, we just spoke to him yeah and he's a bit of a record keeper. He, oh my god, send us a doctor every appearance summary. I why I believe that in the end user,

seventy eight time you're all here and at the end he made a list and they were prognosis with episode, ways that died, Slash been abuse that allows ways he was killed. Her named on in sketches and ashamed sketches, not in real life, snaky yeah yeah there might have been some curio jack was always money in the bank, and this is both always before thirty rock Gary. two minutes, and so no one thousand and two we started. No one knew who he was, but he was assists hilarious and is a hilarious performer and we would you know, use in all these different ways, and I always would do this improv where, whenever was around I'd, be the kind of crew

Look, how a city slicker right who is. Are we aware we jack and prayer? I knew I smelled. You know horse. Manure can only to mark out the barn and he did not sir. Yes, I see so so you're going with it. He black, sir. That is wrong I am not you, sir. That is be inhuman and he would really cared to events. So I would commit to my guy right when he would. mid to his guy and when I didn't know is it: the crew is watching all this and they thought it was real yeah. So you know I mean I loved

but Lily Jack would be at the double doors waiting to rehearse and I would seem the Quantum Ireland strict sniffing the arrogant way sounds to me. Like somebody just came fresh from the put you know the hard harm, maybe like sir most certainly did not laugh. I do I came for you. I came from my condominium in Montana. Oh, you did you its cared about the early vague that move in box. I did not know perfectly well on an elevator is, and we would do this so at one point we were just do this and we would really commit, neither one of us would break. I remember one time I'm walking out and a couple members of the crew camera man standing around in a sound guy like we taught you, Second, yeah anyone. You know, Jack's a really good guy your play

we'll find out why I said her guys. I love Jack and the like, madam, if you love Jack, maybe you really like you. No no Jack Jack. Come here, tell them and his gent answers to his house. So so good and great, if you like, I think, guys guys. I had imagined waiting for someone to intervene. Yea I'm! So he what happened. is, and this is something like you guys are thinking it can attest to, which is that I don't I have Burmese here. I don't buy Donna boundaries, but I also don't segment things: meaning com. he's not something that I do and people around right and it's time to do professional copyright might think

Whatever you want to call it good or bad is happening all the time her out. Yes so- and I just did because we had to wait two. Even just do this pod cast an eye ride. No, I just have socks on your most embryos and is a smooth meant floor and I'm a dancing around her and doing different characters and charging all of us like a bull charging already liable and acting like a total ass, not acting my age or anyone's age. At all, I mean a four year old would be disgusted by Ike. this is what I do all the time. So I have I wore Jack. Will text me something and I'll text that would just as its journey Clare and we're friends and he'll, tell me something like you know: hey you plan to have your Christmas party this year. We will announce Abbe, texting about saying, goings, I you know

you know what the problem is. If you bring the mule everybody's going to want to bring a mule and we can have a mule represent forty and he'll text back and say it just be one thing: no black cloud, Jack and he'll take back like this is wrong What are you doing and he'll commit to his thing ever be? Sometimes it's one o clock in the morning: I'm chuckling in doing this city, with Guy from like nineteen eleven and he's doing his thing, and it for nobody. Nobody is madness, dismiss requirements for the people of Europe reading your he's with Jack again

we have a really fun whenever something well never mind. When the dentist says we have really filings rapid, let's stop having our really fun conversation and get to this serious. We can do what everyone sure this trial is shifting shift and your voice. We would highlight Cecil. Italy is your place where we know you of quizzes on your other podcast. So we do. We have I won't know anything. That's that's. What's going to happen, so I know that some one probably thought would ask our embassies. They I wanted. I was dry and those we have already hardly already admitted that you don't remember mon reality. Remedy does Europe, so we just wondered based on the titles of these sketches. If you would be able to describe them. Ok review by the Israelis are really work, these on the title strive to completely understand everything

can we really needs more exploiting these were really are registered rational, sketching we're trying to fill the time. Ok, I will say the name of the sketch, and then you say if I remember so that from ninety ninety seven naked goat, no no idea what's naked go as a rating success of PAMELA Anderson Lee doing S NL monologue naked with We try something families Dad Burton Anderson comes out. This robes growing pixelate it. This makes our ratings So now we present a naked goat eating with growing pixelate. You guys. I guess this is going to lead me to believe that a host of network, as well as for a good where I was feeling thinking so finally, a virtue, aren't you going alone, and these will be funny boy. The willow Ex brothers, oh

I remember vaguely I remember the wheel cuts for the just give me a little more just give me a little more and gets interrupted by Andy's whining. Well, that doesn't help That's it. That's called Thursday. I Andy's tired. He didn't take his nap, it's ok! because Andy Rector well, this gonna give it away is played by the Wilcox Brothers. I have no idea your time. I know it's so apparently, allowed to look up good sketches. You don't have to do. I gotta move, you don't have to just pick these ones. They are these monies funny where they good, but we we reject the railway is the titles this is like, autopsy when they find out first indicted, seven hundred different way was shot. Eighty had cancer, and someone shelter cannonball. It is reckless Voldemort versus Mary Poppins, no

twelve. Does it matter it? Does that help kind of remember that yeah, as part of the Uk Olympics, so nobody was never mind. I don't remember so. Uk loving faintings match up of all the more versus Mary Poppins to uniquely british characters. The two figures are fighting live with Voldemort being the crap out of Mary Poppins when suddenly tiny TIM appears apparently help Mary, but then he just helps finish off Mary pop. I guess I'm just getting depressed, you know. Finally, I Lando now I'm sure, look I'm sure some of this was good and mean we did some really amazing snouted you don't really saying why are we know? I mean I remember that things are sent out to me. As I remembered we once did a week when we are returning to try through time yeah yeah part of the Sweeney we built a giant, Trojan horse during it was during the greek period

the night. What we were doing it was all gray s yeah. I was wearing a toga and end. We put this giant and built had built giant talk to build teletype built also he built a giant real Trojan horse and they were pushing it through Manhattan and we times so that a giant truck would co smashing through at your side, Letterman, studious and smash. It looked amazing and our first kiss that night, who was watching all of his backstage, was Martin score, says: yes, discourse ass. He came out and you know I talk eventually closure, by using data, I gotta tell you that the thing without the shut. The Trojan horse in the trunk tells really well shot and I was saying they're kind of fucking toga getting it comin from Martin Score, says he and yeah. So there was just so much. I m sure you put a lot of work in this region.

doktor built all about the dredging wearily to see how to made in New Jersey, built our problem mastery, I d, be, they wit, circumvented union rules to end made it in New Jersey so that it would be ready in time What's going to reveal these things? There's gonna be a union statute of irradiation. Oh yeah, he admitted I'm surprised the building was shut down with the crew, so they were committed in the proper yeah. Oh, we used to have any meat member we had wished to attempt pyrotechnics on our show all the time. And I swear to God. There was no names or anything on justice and things were done very quickly- maybe not with an eye towards codes toward co very to road safety codes. I'm surprise, I'm shot it. We were blocked, we are at last only managed to do and this aspect it thirty rock mommy. him out to LOS Angeles in two thousand nine, your people,

making stuff here, in LOS Angeles, for rail four eighty year right so you'd, want to special effect in Vienna, but sometimes we would want something or need something in thirty rock. exist. Yeah would find someone in a daily and say: can you make this thing? We go to a shoe store anyway, pretty crazy as pretty crazy. He also told one of my old time favorite stories about. I want to give it away, but the time we took down that fives nightly broadcast single and oh yeah. We re shelve the eyes do by talking about, because I don't give a shit yeah, this. I remember that very well broadcast the local news that all of New York watched across the hall from us like five and it's how Manhattan found out what the hell is going on. In men ran so it's a big deal, you spend built all decided to putting some shell, yes, and I think he took a bit

We didn't consult anybody and took a giant electric saw and cut through the wall and cut through a table and no one in Manhattan. These cables must not be the only anyone. You know anyone watching lighted, five, the whole feed it went out all across Manhattan and its because the market master wanted some shall forward thirty. I was the wires, the connected them to every report or in the field. You know it's funny cause I've had people say to me: I ain't ever gonna write a book, and I think I have to I know that I have to write a book about all the things that happened bite. I'm gonna need a lot of. Only the last people to help me remember ever had happened. We and also an inside come in

I'll do that you know about the Wilcox Brothers. I don't think that's going to answers to marry. I don't think they can. I take you into the book, but making the supplement without even make it into a response. You jus member, this sketch run up the Wilcox brothers I want to do anyway. Guy has yet I just dumb. It's really must ve too much that happened that was in, and I think The beauty of that, especially that first year, show in two years is that we didn't know any better and there's a beauty. to not knowing any better when you mature, get old, another matured by them. started to learn some of the boundaries, but in ninety three, especially ninety three. Ninety four, we we're trying to do a ceremony at live every night,

We would have these ideas in an Roberts Michael right, whose is so brilliant would, if one thinks of then it can be done and we tried so much stuff that huge asked, wouldn't try. I mean I wouldn't try it now, because I'd be too scared. We did a thing on the show. I think that first season, where we we did a whole, Hang where and I'll, never forget this. We created like up spittle drama that had in his soul. in front of alive, studio audience and I have to tape, but still you have to get it right. The first time we who audience and what we do is it's a hospital drama, We got Martin Sheen to be the Doktor Martin and the I'm in it and and in it, and were also doctors and there's like in a moment happen is, we would have actors who are worrying. green screen things faces and what we

do as we would have we would settle cut to someone in the audience. And their head would be on that actors body and they had to read the line. It was called sit in the sea. Theatres in your seat, theatre basically meant that ends and We just hold up a card. So what you re seeing was this person came to see you later show my guy Letterman's, not here she badly Henderson New Guy. I hear he saw ass well it's raining out and no one else is coming in to see let's go check it out and there watching burning pretty much. This play and this seeing this like five six, seven minute scene and Martin gene. Is there having this intense, conversation- and we would just put someone in the audience- is face, into the scene on that actors body and how

that line for them to stand and suddenly there doing a scene with Martin she and it somehow worked. Then I just remembered a rehearsal thinking world the die is cast iron and they're, just hundreds of thousands of crazy things like that. That happens, we're just They scare me now thinking about the mistake when you're older and you remember the time that you it's on my gun and a motorcycle, and I I just never been on a motorcycle before so. I tried to jump over bunch, a milk, our eyes and you, you're a fisherman you're more afraid later on. Right. Yes, I'm Caroline yeah. I know I mean it's really for it's been so fine to talk to people about those early days of you know when We felt like this energy of people who have nothing to lose and just going for it.

yeah, I'm very obviously indebted to we gathered a really good crew, a merry band that no one I was the most. I was the television professional I had worked on certain alive in the Simpsons right. No one else I hired had worked and television and run Robert and I were the only we were supposed to be the adults and we word, and so I am really glad you're doing this and maybe I'll drop back in again. I I love talking about this stuff. You never lie. to be sure. I think we'll figure. I know I do remember that existed. I can remain a lot is when you bring up specific thing wrong, and I will tell you this very quickly and which is when the great actor Jerry or back passed away from MILAN order. I remember thinking I said

loud somebody to show my guy luxury or back he's such a cool actor, and I wish I got to do a casino People said you did, I said, knowing I would know. If I were you talking about. I said I loved your back idolize like I wish I d seen and people were like. You did me and I'm like no, I didn t I go into a big. If I resign, it was your bed, so MIKE Storms, out of the room, might comes backwards from his giant with rings, because it's a different era of VHF tape. Ass night pounds and he shuddered seen any press the button and on the lawn orders and Jerry back is right in my face grilling me and I'm refusing to talk it's good cop, bad cop, and I had no memory and show

the boat bites. So I will listen to this cause. I learn a lot listen to MIKE and Jesse on this new season of inside Conan in important I would podcast on team cocoa. Ever you get your podcast, listen because it's probably a really good instructional audiotape How not to do things and climbed upon tat theres a lake in the episode description. It will take you to our interview and thank you both very much for days. You thank you very much for the needs of society,

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