We have two teacup. Shits is oh wow. I said the little tiny dogs- yes, there little tiny dogs and John did very very, very very cute. What are their names all peekaboo, and polo because my name is Paulette and my husband is Paul. So all of our dogs have had p names, Peekaboo Polo Pucci, pom, pom pinky- my husband's here. You just help me on that one. Have you ever had the dog named Phoebe? No, but that would sound too much like an f as opposed to a Ph Paul what Cooper Noble is: seventy six years old and lives in palm Beach. Florida she's been married to her husband, Paul for thirty one years, she's the author of twenty six books and she writes a weekly column for the Palm Beach Daily NEWS.

What is the column about dogs and cats? Take various local people who are well known, and I do stories about them and they have to had a dog or attack had to have one, and I we've the dog going to camp into the story and it's called pet set people. So that's the criteria. If how do you get you in no matter how interesting you are? If you do not have a pet, yet they won't. You will not be in your column. No because it's the Petcom, I could have asked her about pets it people all day. I can never resist an animal story, but that's not what we with Paula had. We call to talk about something she pulled off along time ago, something that seems impossible to do today.

In the 1960s Paul. It was living in New York, she's heard about a kid who had been caught stowing away on a cruise ship. She remembers telling her friends the story over drinks the stowaway had been caught, hiding Paul. It argued that the reason he'd gotten caught was because he was hiding. I had read EDGAR Allan POE's the purloined letter and I was treated by the fact that if somebody was low sing for something it was better to have it out in the open, that's what they Well, I'm going to look for Paul. I told her friends that if you wanted to take yourself on a free cruise, you should walk around the boat like you were supposed to be there. She couldn't stop thinking about it and how should go about it and because maybe she was a little drunk palit told her friends. She would prove it. She was twenty eight years old. Well, I thought well, if I wanted to stowaway on an ocean liner, the thing to do would be

to be very conspicuous, not to be hiding to wear sexy close to be very, very friendly, meet as many people as possible, and that was my goal, and that is what I did. So you weren't you weren't, going to be hiding behind a stack of ropes, eating little crackers for your voice No, no, the idea was definitely not to hide she planned for months going to the library to find out about how other people had gotten away with it. She read about a famous Hollywood restaurant tour, who claimed to have stowed away a number of times, one sleeping with his dog. In the dogs kennel and once dressing like a steward and carrying dirty laundry.

One german man had nailed himself inside a box marked household goods. He spent the whole journey inside the box without a problem, but when the box was taken off the ship in New York, the cargo handlers dropped it and the man screamed he was caught. Paulette was not planning to get caught. She decided on a cruise from New York City. The caribbean and back seven days, her boat was called the Leonardo Davinci. It was one thousand nine hundred and sixty nine. Neil Armstrong had just walked on the moon, the Brady Bunch, premiered pool at says. Things were more quote casual then, and she wanted to see what she could get away with

I'm Phoebe judge. This is criminal. Her first idea was to pretend she was pregnant and to hide all of her clothes in a pillowcase under her dress. That idea didn't last long, so she came up with another idea. A friend of mine who had been in the army showed me how you could put a lot of clothes in a tiny attache case by bold everything in half rolling it up and put in rubber bands on the ends, and you could squeeze a lot of things in and I we decided it black and white mix and match wardrobe so that it would like. I was wearing different things, so I had that different clothes. I had a little bikini and I had chiffon evening gown I was able to get in there and also

I had my makeup, but every he had been tremendously reduced used to sell. Maybe they still do something called five day deodorant pads and I had broke off my two hundred with brush so that it was just the bristles Anna at a tiny hair brush that probably didn't call more than five strands at a time and I did have long hair. So it was really set. She didn't want do you want to try and convince her not to go through with her plan, so she didn't tell anyone what she was about to do, but she did have a dog that we need to be cared for while she was away so she asked her next door neighbor to watch the dog for her when the neighbors asked her. If she was going, Paulette told her the truth. The neighbor wish her luck, but didn't seem convinced at all that the

plan would work Paul. It's next step was to decide on a fake name. I use the name, Paula, Madison Becaus. When you use a fake name, it should be as close as possible to your real name. So, but if somebody calls you, you will turn around and I lived right off of Madison Ave, and so I thought that was a nice name. In those days Paul, it says most cruise ships had a going away party before they left the dog. Friends and family of those going on, the cruise could come and have a good drink on the boat before the ship set sail. Her plan was to walk right on, like she was coming to say goodbye. She said she got dressed up and went to the port of New York with her attache case went up the visitors, gangway and boarded the ship, and then they started making announcements. They always make announcement soon, all ashore who's going ashore- and I just

It she wandered around the ship, making note of all the ladies bathrooms and eventually found a lounge in the lower level that don't seem to be in use any longer, and I took my attache case and I put it- I opened up the channel and I put it in the piano figuring that nobody was going to play their piano down there. If they did, I, then they could have played the funeral march for me because it really did sound like there and that trash a case on the keys she figured. She would kill time at the bar, but when she went upstairs all the bars were closed. She don't know where to go. She thought she would hide in one of the ladies rooms. They were all locked to most likely to prevent still always just like her from hiding out in them.

You are passenger. You could just go to the bathroom in your own cabin paulett. She wandered around the boat and tried to look as relaxed as possible. In those days she says that if a stowaway was caught early enough, they would just put them on the tugboat that was still attached to the ship. Forget navigate out to open water, but if you made it out far enough, you got to stay in nineteen twenty nine, a twenty year old woman named rose host stowed away on a Panama Pacific Liner from New York City to California. After getting into a fight with her father, she was found out, but too far away from piece of land to be kicked off the ship when she was caught. She explained that she quote simply had to get to Hollywood. Newspapers

put up her story and when the ship reached San Diego, she promptly got a role in a new film in the late 1920s Lots of women were stowing away on ships, hoping to see the world and maybe make themselves famous in nineteen. Twenty nine a reporter in Hawaii, wrote who are the flapper thrill seekers who now run away to see usurping a prerogative once held solely by the boys, but by 60S, when Paulette boarded the Leonardo, Davinci stowing away for fun had gone out of fashion. The advent of air travel change and the ships themselves, with their bars and parties and become a destination and part of my plan was to, stay in the bar as the excuse for not going in the dining room. You know people say I'll come on. Let's go time for dinner or whatever join me.

And so now I have another drink. So you're sitting there you're people are saying: come dinners I'll, have another drink. Yeah night I'll, see you later kind of thing, but are you thinking? Ok, the hour These are passing by. Where am I going to sleep tonight? That was a big problem for the whole seven days, which was that I didn't have very much sleep. I would take it glass fill it with water, as if it was all alcohol put it on the end table so that I looked like I had passed out, but then I couldn't do that until it three or four in the morning till everybody was gone. And then, by seven hundred in the morning, even six people started wandering around on the ship. So I had to get up. The problem of finding a place to sleep has always been solved in interesting ways. In nineteen, twenty eight in italian designer was asked to decorate a new oceanliner. While he did it. He created

a secret compartment. So we could hide in it and go along for the first voyage when the cabin was discovered. They found it at electricity, a chair, a bed and bottles of wine. Last year an australian cockatoo flew onto a cruise ship, leaving Brisbane on its way to New Zealand. When crew members found the bird, they alerted New Zealand authorities who told them the bird would have to be euthanized or contained before the ship could come near any ports. They don't want to euthanize it. So the crew gave the cockatoo its own cabin where the bird spent the next ten days, a crew member was assigned to Cockatoo watch twenty four hours a day, what happen that second day you'd made it through the first night you're out at sea, I've very hungry. I could not

eating bar setups, and I like our lips, but how many olives can you have, and also I remember, trying a lemon wedge and discovering the that was horrible. I know with a little onions and shadowood peanuts. You know see what you see like garnishes, exactly all that there was. I certain couldn't take any food that attache case and Paul its plan, to survive on the all. You can eat buffets. She could go into the dining room for the formal dinners because she would have had I have a table assignment, but that first night there had been no buffet. This is the formal welcome dinner. Do you remember that first lunch buffet? Yes, I the spanish to me it's another thing. I had to kind of be careful 'cause. You can't look as you haven't eaten in two days. Everybody else has has been eating. So

to be sort of graceful about not putting too much on your plate and eating slowly in Org, not to arouse suspicion. Slowly. She started to get to know people at the bars she said she was getting more confident. She began participating in the ships activities trying to keep a low profile, but still having fun and then one day she saw that there would be a ping pong contest. Paulette- is very good at ping pong, but I knew that I would have to throw it. I mean there's no way I could win the contest and- it was in the morning to sign up and I signed up Paula Madison and nobody else signed up. I went around the ship trying to find somebody else who would join me. Nobody one hundred and two. So I was declared the winner by default and that was worse, because then they said. Ok, you a bottle of champagne- and we will

bring it to your table tonight. So I said: well, don't drink champagne. This may be your table. Mates. Will try again said? No, I don't want to do anything to them. They said all right. Well, we'll give you a picture of the ship inscribed with your name, What's your cabin number, so I didn't know what to do so. I said I'll pick it up. And then I thought this was sort of an and I hung around the Social Directores Service office. Almost all afternoon. Until finally, they gave me a picture of the ship which turned out to be a wooden plaque with a picture of the ship, so I threw it overboard. And somebody saw me do that and really thought This lady is very very odd. I'm sure I take a lot of things I did lead. People to think I was on but I'd rather they thought I was our than stowing away right. What are some other things that you that you had to do must have looked odd. Well, the biggest pro

my heart is. There were not a lot of women alone at all. In those days, Ann biggest problem I ran into actually was the ship's doctor decided that, like me- and he went after me- and he wanted to know to he insisted on walking me to my cabin I had not, and in those days the there was a big board and keys were metal and they hung. You know people took their keys and opened up, your doors, so I saw that there was one in a key that had not been taken and I open the door saying this was my cabin bye bye now and he insist not coming in, and I was very nervous because I love that the man's shoes were there and they would like toiletries there, and I obviously chosen a cabin of some man that I was claiming was my cabin that takes

A lot of courage grab a key from and just hope that hold that the first it wasn't in their personal put in there yeah. Well. If they were excuse me one wrong cabin, I had to do something he was there. I bump into him, when I was, you know, like the I stay or whatever and- and he said I hope to see you again and I said well these ships, pretty expensive. For that. You know, and I'm not sure I can afford it and he looked him in it. Then why not stole away well yeah, I think all the color drain from my face. I couldn't tell whether he had caught on or not. You know I need eighty, he look up and find. My name was not on the roster. Who knows he didn't the same can be just by by kind of thing: were you able to take a shower? That was very difficult. Doll to take a shower, because I had my clothes. I couldn't really take my clothes off. What I did is

I washed in the ladies room in the ladies room. It wasn't being used very much, but they had it was the towels for one of these roll towels. You know what I mean not paper towels but rolled, and if it's a little difficult for me, because I only five feet tall, so I didn't quite reach, these old fashioned things which kind of reduce rolled down from the right wall as paper towels do now You can never take it away or take it off. That's right! That's right, and you also can't drive yourself very low because it doesn't reach very well so I had to stand there and kind of dry off a lot by the air. While worrying that somebody might come in what about pool towels. Did you ever use one? No, but I did one of the things I had taken with

Me was one of these tiny little soaps and I tried wants to bathe in the pool itself, but mumbled it bubbled those little so bubble that it looked like. I was your pardon expression peeing in the pool, What will lead the three day for you there in the bathroom or trying to shower in the bathroom you're? It did you think I've had I've had in what? What kind of an idea was this? I think I thought that I'd be so you were in it now too. Late play, because it's not like you can turn back. The only option is to turn yourself in right, which certainly was not going to do. I think by this point for people thought I was a very weird

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because nowadays everybody that people are very uptight there very nervous they this constant security, there's also constant cameras every place it would. You know so easy to look things up and no, it's a completely different and nobody would treat it as a lark, which is what it really was was like hey. This is a crazy. Is a knee thing to do, but you're crazy, zany, young girl, so go ahead and do it. It would not have been that kind of situation. Paul it's seventy journey on the Leonardo Davinci made two stops Puerto Rico in Saint Thomas. She chose this cruise specifically because she wouldn't have to deal with the pass. Port like she would have on a transatlantic voyage. When the ship docked in Saint Thomas, she decided to get off for a few hours and enjoy yourself I wonder when you got off and had your feet on

firm ground, and sometimes you think, oh god, I've gotta go back and risk it all again yeah it needed this, sir, no 'cause you're lying in the sun, and it feels so good, then you're on a beach chair, and you can finally sleep. Then you have to worry for a few hours that anybody is going to ask a question. You can't answer it anybody's going to catch you, so just very, very relaxing, but I you have to go back. I had to get home, she managed the rest of the trip without too much incident, seven days to the Caribbean and back Paul it's's by the end of the cruise. The other people on the ship were wary of her. This woman, who passed out on the couch, is every night and ate a lot of garnishes, but she was thrilled. She done it without

in coming close to getting caught on the final day. She went down to the lower lounge retrieved, her bag from its hiding place in the piano and watched the ship pull into New York, harbor everybody was getting off, and that was when there was immigration, and I didn't know what to do, and I had thought I'll hide in a cabin, but the cabins had been locked and they cleaning and they will close, and that was the only time I went to a room steward who was cleaning an. I said, I'm not feeling well, I know to lie down for a little while close the door. So by that time I got off, it was feel four hours later and the customs people had cleared everybody so much job was simply to walk off the ship. Although that's the point at which I came the closest to getting caught. Tell me what happened well, what happened was that it was in New York. It was very cold

I had not been able to stow away, you know any kind of, or cold or any warm coat, and I study just shivering to death. There were no taxis. I was trying to decide how to get home when I had made it. Everything was fabulous and, at that point a bit of a police type car pulled up and there were three or four security guards, and they ask me if I had been on that ship- and I said yes and they said with your luggage, and I said I had a fight with my boyfriend and he took it, went to his place. And if so, where do you live and that I looked at sixteen e 80th ST and they said well, that's not too far will give you a ride, driven home by the secure guards and when we pulled up

my place, I said well, you know thank you very much and they said invite us in for a drink was about eleven in the morning, but I said all right and, as I walked into like little Brownstone, the woman who is taking care of the dog, my neighbor friend, she saw me with these huge security men and I knew what she was thinking Anne. I mount her, don't say one word beep, as I was so afraid should say some like all I knew you'd be caught, or I know you wouldn't get away with this whatever and she just looked at me quizzically and I in did the man in and I gave them. Everything is hard liquor in those days in the morning and we chatted jump really, but you know a little while they had their drinks and then they left did things seem more possible

In one thousand nine hundred and sixty nine, then they do today did what's a more possible cruises things that you know yeah. So anyway, on a ship inviting security guards up for some ten, am, I think, by it was eleven. But that's alright. Yes, no, I mean, I think things were much much more casual. They really were. Do you still go on cruises constantly? In fact, I just came back transatlantic voyage. I'm going on a short one in September when you get on a new ship each each time, let's set after you kind of case it for how you take this one on. If you were stowing away.

Well, you know you kind of notice how many PS there are Criminalist created by Lawrence and me media will soon as our senior producer audio mix by Rob by special things to Susanna Roberson. You know the thing about a teacup Shih Tzu now you're good dog to stow away. Yes, yes, yes, that would be Julian Alexander, makes original illustrations for each episode of criminal you can see them at thisiscriminal dot com were on Facebook and twitter at criminal. Show that being easy want to slip in your bag.

Well they're, good dogs for showing away because they don't balk back in nineteen. Sixty nine pilot Cooper wrote about stowing away for cosmopolitan magazine. You can find the link to her peace and information about her twenty six books and her pet column at paulettecooper. Dot com criminal is recording in the studios of North Carolina public radio. W! U n C were proud member of radio Topia from Prx a collection of the best podcast around I'm Phoebe check check. This is criminal. You do not have taken a lot of nerve for you to walk onto that cruise ship. Do you think the fact that you did it successfully is helped you carry that nerve through the rest of your life? No, I think that the older I've gotten the more chicken I

can I if I, if I look at a travel brochure, and it has the word panorama on it, I immediately. Come ill! I'm really! Not! I don't ski He, in fact I don't like hide. I don't like speed. I don't like cold the only way. I with ski would be indoors slowly, uphill, but basically no, I don't think it changed Maine in any way. That's not the answer you wanted, but that's the truth

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