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you can even the wake up to a sausage muffin with egg or sausage egging cheese MC riddles just to fit each Mcdonald. The odds. Are you having a great day, are now way where, in your favorite, pressing participation? May there, because only questions before. on anything, you want to talk about how we get the ESA early relations says, that's an interesting question. What you mean by that, if I like disenfranchised recently read recently, is the key recently is the key to us realize rights rights, but she so so far to your question to your question. I think you have to understand what the wood reparations means. First, so ripper Since you are repairing something that you have broken, you are paying for something that you were supposed to pay for. I'm not saying that there

people living in America today who are suffering and I'm going through pain and strife because of what's happening when it comes to, not the machines taking jobs, factories become industrialized, etc. But reparations is if a conversation about a specific time in America and that is black people were slaves. You don't mean that I have even heard people say like oh, but there were some of the Irish who indentured light yet list. slavery, look at the numbers look at that time. Look at the level of work. You could not work to warn you freedom for most black people, animals. This was a time when you were there was a new lived and died as a slave, and so that's what nations about, and so I hear you're saying, but I think that a completely separate conversation that meeting we had about the now, because if you, if you are not careful what you then do, as you combine everybody suffering into the same bull and you make it seem, like all injustices, have the same waiting and they don't just like crimes. You know, theft

the same as murder. We don't try them the same way and as much as there is a white personal suffering today I feel for anybody who suffering, because I know what it's like to be poor. I know what it's like to I didn't come from a wealthy family. We struggled when I was growing up, but I also understand that there are levels of that suffering. You know and sometimes why people it it doesn't. It does look alike person you go white, privilege, unapproachable, I'm point, I'm like where's the privilege we will. I wish I could activate my privilege. I wish I could do it right now. My privilege gimme something I I get that I get that trust me. I get it hard to accept that you have benefits because of the color of your skin. If you can see the benefits that you have, but the thing I tried to explain to a person is think of it. A golf. Don't think of this privileged and think of it like a handicap right engulf. They acknowledge you are in a position where you need so many advantages to be competitive in the game right, so what they say you have a handicap of fifteen. So that means I you're gonna be hitting from this t and you get more chances to get the ball in, because we understand

position you in and if your black person, America from slavery from day one, the nuts injustices that have held black people back in America, amount to an insurmountable like you, you look at you look at black people's freedom. You look at black, people's land just just land alone, the amount of wealth you can. You can acquire overtime if you own land is exponential because you have the land, you have the fact that you can borrow based on the land. You have the fact that you can use the money that you have borrowed to grow more wealth. You can use it to grow your family's well, just taking that away from people alone is crippling them, and so you combine that with slavery. And then you look at Jim Crow laws. You didn't let black people in America live in areas that they wanted to live in. They couldn't get loans from the banks that they wanted to get lost from, and then top of that when they started getting the loans from american banks. American were found to be giving them higher interest rates when in fact they were the same risk as many of the other issues that they were good, though they were giving loans to. So when you combine all of those things, I think it's safe The black Americans have accomplished

in that they need to be having with the United States doesn't involve me. doesn't involve why people doesn't like it's like YO american government made the black people have that conversation whenever, whenever I see all the stuff about voter registration and voter Idee laws in America, etc. That's one of the few moments when I miss South Africa's racism because I know what I like the boss of Africa's racism is that it was a straight up. You know they just like no blacks, no blacks, a kite simple as that no blacks, and you knew He stood only get America billing. They make. You work We're racism, gotta figure out there. We like we, don't need shorten people more prone to Heaven,

I'm sure you people which people you baby it I wish. We were told people know you re, like no management to be offended and enjoy it. You know I don't got a figure on my reason. Legs reason pseudo course: I'm going to figure it out, so they beat around the Bush socially. But I promise you. I genuinely think that would switch things up. Implacable, just came out of said: hey we're all gonna vote republican You would be surprised. How could this is. This is how you realize how much like black people's decisions affect the gym. Like republican ideology in America. Look at the inner raise a grey example. guns in America people Ways like all know, then needs to be. You know, guns a free guns of regions of Regos, Greece, economic and music and women. Then the black Panthers came along and they would like. This country is dangerous for black people, so they say

We say all our brothers and sisters you got, then you get guns you get as many guns is, you can you prepare for war and then the white people? like we need to restrict the guns like we need have: no, no, no, no, no too many guns for many guns, bring it and bring it in Britain in Bergen. Like you see immediately this brain and bringing in bringing about your Europe and some maidens just like the same thing with voting, if they just thought the vote was gonna go the other way, it would take a chance of being a camera voting for you rarely voting Republican here, man of own parliament oh yeah, what we voted for. You know I do. Scott, this podcast is brought. You buy Norton three sixty with life. if you are enjoying a new device you received over the holidays. Remember that its easy to be unsafe online. Every time you enter private info, nation on a new device. You could be leaving

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this and then my mom remarried a black man, so my brother's don't look like me, either. And I remember was really beautiful was by brothers. We we spoke about this stuff. Some apparently will I get different dad's we get how this works. So my brother one day I pick him up from school- is a really young at the time was what maybe like, furthermore, the ninth, maybe ten years old and he gets in the car and he's just deflated- gets into the passenger seat. thousands of seat belts and what was going on Isaac, unease Trevor he's, like kids, men, a country. This kid's, Sligo, kids tell me more and then he's like. I just I just don't know what to do with kids Trevor. You know like today, one of my friends or are we walking home thinner signal? My brother's picking me up finishes who's your brother tenacity, then now, when we walking, he sees you in the car, then he says who's that Dennis it's my brother finishes. But how can you brother, Falcon your brother? Be white tennis? If he's not white he's not white, he's mix, didn't it, but you not met you. Don't look,

same. How can your brother none of the same than and shall now make our man? I'm gonna have to go through this. So then, unlike shows What did you say, John these acts of like I tried to explain that we can understand. I just said you must really you gotta understand, like people alike, chocolates. Ok like like you can have like a white chocolate and you can have a dark chocolate and you can have a look but it's all nicely. Ok. There was one aspect of south african culture that I could transplant to America. What would it be ha? What would it? I think it would be? Maybe our general isa talking about race and original past. You know ghosts of african American very similar histories? You, knowing that there was like there are many things that would dance people of color that we strongly heinous, but we we just made because the truth and Reconciliation Commission in our country. We were forced to talk about it and we just talk about it. It's painful, but we

about it and it's out their, whereas in America Fund is like a lot of tension in and around that love people. Just like gavel, become we don't from happening in Russia. How do we have to bring that up, as I do, I'm nothing Did slavery come down? You don't owe me because a lot of people treated this is like I wasn't there. I didn't say you were there, I'm does they slavery? Whenever I swear, I wasn't: do you thirty seven calm down, you know domain and I feel They could be if it helps to be able to have conversations about those things we could then have helped. You understand You got your way. You got true, but if you can have those conversations, then you just have to operate in a blind space of like how did this happen? You know why do so many black people live in this part of Harlem. I don't know. Why do you think I don't know? Did you get him saying and it in

opens up, I think that would be like the one part and it doesn't fix everything. Don't get me wrong, but I do think it makes it easier to address issues to have conversations when you can just be like em, and this should happen in pillar get that was that was crazy. That was wild. That happened that this happened in and then and that's the thing, a lot of time. People think about assigning blame. but it's not it's about addressing what happened so that everyone can move forward and understand why things need to be fixed or how they got there in the first place. Does that make sense? Like imagine imagine if, like the your dog, like you, want to talk to your doktor about something that happened inside your body and You know you did your doktor scans and then you like Doc. I think I think I might have like a cancer doktor look. I wasn't. There was a meeting with you and I do not just need to help fixing it yeah Isn't there, though I was a baby, it's like no man just shut up top up. That's the one thing. I trust want that and chickens that don't like do weights and stuff ass, the other part like chickens,

just like a normal, because American like what what what what what would like once I saw them like I'm sorry. What is that you think? I'm eating, oh, like I remember when I a short chicken wing in America. This is the dumbest thing you ever heard and you're gonna judge me, but I judge you back I'm the first I'm not a chicken wing in America is like ordered, like Buffalo wings. Ok- and I know this sounds crazy, but the reason I was intrigued by a short on someone else's plate, and then I was like one of those and some of those a buffalo wings, and I was like always like a party. Buffalo that I don't know- and I was like I wanna taste, Buffalo wings of an arm of the eating of another sort of like chicken there's more like it is children like what its buffalo and then on ignoring them like put. What chicken is this? How big is the winner of this chicken? What what what dinosaur chickens do you guys have here, because that's not the size of any normal chicken anywhere in the world, so yeah? I would. I would

the one other thing I would bring is just like normal animals, normal that's yeah, bring normal animals and conversations about race for all the night hours late night, as and sleepy heads out there, this assault or your morning blues at last, sad savory breakfast for making these, because can be a moment in person at least you can even the wake up to a sausage muffin with egg or sausage egg and choose me griddle just to fit each Mcdonald. The odds. Are you having a great day? Are now wait? Wait in your favorite pressing participation? May there are really fun. I find it funny how trumpets stumbled across many of the things he has ridicule. Black people for in America and he doesn't even see the irony in all of this. You know four years like like when it came to

the FBI law enforcement order that lacking we like early of too much power, it's crazy how they can to say things about you and then you'll tell me that you should go to jail and the now he's like. Have you seen how much power their books they can do whatever they want make your life away. Having listened to the thing they keep on saying about, all of the people have been arrested. It's not just Roger Stone, they didn't with manifold. They always bring up anything. They go he's a sixty year old man. Is he gonna when the rest of his life in jail, and that's literally literally what communities of color have been saying in Amerika for decades it like you gonna, let someone the rest of my life in jail. Because of because of a mistake, they made no disputing that they broke the law, but

to spend the rest of their lives in jail and the people like. While you break the law, you pay the price, that's what it's all about, and now all of trumps people do the six percent. Now all of them going to jail all of them and now trumpets like did you see in the middle of the night you like and drink, went to his house, that's where he was like yeah. That's that's what it is. You gotta genuinely shocked, the police use the same forced on them that they ve been used, on so many other people in the country? Unchecked? Because that's what I do, I didn't think its extreme I'd like american police, specially, if you do tat the world we had flex you'll, see you'll, see how like it's just

police and military like militarized in American away they onto most developed nations. You know like in its away from every time I go back South Africa, I'm remind them like oh yeah, being a police it just means that you are a citizen who has the job of enforcing the law, but it doesn't put you different level. It doesn't mean you can treat people like shit. Does you I'll talk to a police officer can disagree with him? I can argue slow, respectful. Of course they can rest you if you go too far, but it's not like. I have to be afraid. You know I don't have to be afraid of the person I once was driving in South Africa. My american friend and the cop car in front of me. He wasn't paying attention and he likes swerved into my lane, and so then I who today my heart and then he went back into my friends. I call you we came into my name. Was it became us before you hungry too, is that you cannot get the cops like what, but I did he still a driver.

driving. It does something about a hunk of seven payment and then like in America and you you can't even you can't even DR past the cops. That's like the weirdest thing for me when I was when I first when I first movie, I live in California and was on the floor. We and I didn't know like the walls of America, and so I would just like to follow the speed limits and I'm DR and all the cosmos slow, in my view, those idiots, I'm God I'm going fifty five having a good time for the fact and was a cop car and then I just drove past it will become Cosmo like forty as going to speed limits and the cop cop came up the edges of the bodies that gives a conqueror came up behind me like me, and then I was like him, it could have done nothing on look the speed, unlike all, he wants to go past removed. One later. and then the cop car came behind me and it was a good because a grown man back then I came back into the lake. Many came back those like this guy, like I thought we were doing nothing on the sidewalk. You know someone like

What you do you have trying to stop me us as go around me and then finally, like Paul, call Bob fall off and then we pulled over and then he gave me a long speech would like sure you know. If you drove past me- and I was like huh- and he's like well, you know where you are but out here cops. We don't like to be passed I like, while catholic sums is toxic masculinity right there, my friend like Algeria, that you don't like to be passed them unexplained like no. We do it for traffic, so she cop cars, behind it. Don't you know better than I do. From then on that you dont pass them quick. You gotta gradually, so if the cops going forty, you got like forty one legal bars, the Gub Gub. When you wait for a truck to come between You fly, the deletion withdrew

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