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Everyone buck. You welcome vision, you haven't amazing ought in so you re very well. Yes, they will be receiving that money. I promised them welcomes the show, thank you and congratulations on the book. Let's talk about the book because really speaks about everything that you ve done in your life and everything that we deal with many people know you as a really successful soccer player, who in many ways led the? U S, women, so the team to solve its greatest victories. You know your head in the World CUP against Brazil is one of the most famous ones

But the conversations in this book speak about many of the conversations that people are still having today about women Saka in the U S, and that is why is the women's team not getting paid what they are owed, in other words, equal pay for the work that they have doing since aim? You know I've. I really feel like. This is a true discrimination, lawsuit that they have just filed against Eu Soccer and I'm proud to be supporting them. But here's the thing. The big argument right that I hear is the men the men seemed, brings in more money. So, of course that's why they should deserve to make more money, but that's just not true into doesn't fifteen

The women's team brought in six point six million dollars in the men's team only brought in to so like that debate is now no longer kinraid part of this conversation, and here we are talking backs age, and I think that what you said is is actually a deeper truth that that people don't want to talk about in its the amount of money that it takes to market in brand, something right so that the supply and demand a debate can actually make sense will enable. This is something that would that we spoke about like we did on the show- and I remember you know, handling the conflict about in the shown in my head, like a cable, its let's go with all sides of the argument on one side you go women's shock of aid, the winning they should get more money in some would say everything you know they dont earn as much money. But if you look at all the hurdles that women such as to get over in America, first of all the games on at random times greater than off scheduled in a way that people can watch. And then, if you look at how much money was pumped into the analysts immense shock in the country, it was, it was a lost generator and that money hasn't been pumped into women soccer.

And then, as as as a soccer player, who is winning the games. Did you ever at a point on the field just be like? No, I'm not gonna. Let the bull hit my skull now like what what motivated you. If you weren't getting the money I mean now. I think I should have done more of that, because I'm no longer plain- and unlike I hit the ball against my head way too many upright and that's a serious and total side issue, but I think that yeah, I think that the women are like wait. Hold on. This doesn't make sense right. We are putting ourselves in the same positions, were putting our bodies on the line or sacrificing the same mount, and this is not to slight the men in anyway. It's a showcase. How how much I I just truly believe in the women, because, aside from all of the argument that we can make for these women earning the same as the men we haven't, even once talked about them actually winning championship rights right and that's an important part of this this

debate, as well as the women's national team, is one of the most successful team sports in the world and we are still struggling with still struggling to get equal pay and and that it just feels so backwards.

Likewise, the ninety nine World CUP changes had their twentieth anniversary alumni last weekend, and you know the sport has grown and we ve moved a far away from where we started, but we also started below the poverty line. Young people were pipe playing for free. If you, if you look at the book, it's based on a commencement speech that you gave that really went viral. You know, because a connected with so many people and one of the one of the courts in the book reminds me of what you said in that speech, and that was when you will look at yourself on a stage of the espies. It was yourself and it was Kobe Bryant and it was Peyton Manning and you all on the stage being honoured as legends in your fields, and you walked off that stage. Had a very specific thought and I thought was while all three of us are walking in two very different, retirements and stage. I was feeling this immense amount of gratitude that, while we women had finally made it, you know, and what

realized when I walked off stages, that's like basically the emotion that women are granted to feel when they are given an award. This idea just being great so for me, writing this book and trying to unpack some of these moments. In my life that taught me things mean that night is when I dedicated- and I promised myself that our dedicate myself for the rest of my life to fighting for equality, whether be equal pay in my sport and in in might for my team, but also for every woman and every industry, because this is a fight that is necessary and it's not necessary just because women deserve. It is necessary for all people everywhere right, because our our world feels like it mean you talk about all the things that seem to be on fire. Writes that seem to be going wrong

believe that women having more access to the tables where decisions are made. That will help this world better. To be better that you bring that up, because there have been numerous studies that have shown that when you pay women what they do, if you give women access to the workplace, if women earn more society earns more. You see this in countries where it's happening. It's not like, because the women get money in other men, don't get money, new quantum grows by people and more money, and this is this really interesting part of the book. It's right at the beginning, and in its just a beautiful little anecdote you go recently on a call. The company hiring me to teach about leadership immense it. Excuse me abbe. I just need to ensure that what you present is a political two. Men too, I said good question, but only if you ask every mail speaker, you hired. If his message is a political to women,

true, which is a really powerful than you don't think about people often say that they'll be back up here for them. Do the men understand women leadership as well, and also this was like a women leadership conference it I was well. Why do I say this on the con? I'm saving him from from actually putting this company out and his name, but but the reality is: these micro aggressions happen all the time, and I think what we need to start doing is becoming aware of what these market micro. Russians are. That's what this whole Because about and then and then having the courage and the language to be able to counteract some of these things that we are interacting with an in everyday life. So me asking him that very question. My wife is the best that she's like just flip it

just foot, this scenario put yourself in their position, yes, and and if it is not equal, then that is prejudice that debt is treating somebody lesson when you, when you talk in the book about these these ideas. What I really enjoy is, is it there's a part of the book? We specifically say hey if your men reading this book, I hope you realize this book is for you as well. This is a message we all have to engage in an you speak specifically about the wolves in Yellowstone live and its story. Many people know I don't know, do about how and Yellowstone there were struggling with over population of of ideas and the dear would destroying everything to eating everything they had no predator, and so the people said we need to introduce wall here. The river stopped running right, and so this decided that the scientists decided that there would reintroduce wolves into the also national Court park Ecosystem and soon enough, the the wolves they displace the the dear through through hunting, and then the vegetation grew grow back in the river

started to strengthen, and then the river started to to run again, and so, when I was giving the speech at Barnard, last may you know is one of the most special moments of my life, because I was trying to connect the dots and an end. When you wrote a speech, you dont know: they're gonna get it. You know that When you write a joke, you don't know, people are gonna, laugh, although their paid to laugh again, you will receive an end. So when I told when I, when I told them the story about the wolves, I was hoping that these Barnard graduates would get the connection between what the walls were experiencing like what they mean a wolves or were threat to the system. They ended up being The salvation of the right dying ecosystem and so who can we, as women, be the salvation of what's happening in our system right now? It's a really beautiful message. It's a powerful book. I'm excited for the journey that you're going to be on. Thank you so much for being on the show

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