Using the comedy central. Please welcome. Recall the Balkans will show good beer great. You have you honestly really now there are so many things to talk to you about as a former twenty different things are happening about. James called things have been happening, really good things. If you haven't been under twitter, that's what I have something's happening. I love from elated is? Why must I must have missed? Oh yeah, you, MR here, that's what you mean, but we will get into we're going to call me will give to the present will get into a less of later. I wanted to start with the news this Britain today Starbucks, has announced that they're gonna be closing eight thousand of these stores to have a day of rest a biased training and in the press release they mentioned. You is one of the experts are going to consult and how does it work like you walk in and then you do like role play with them.

Can I use the bathroom and they like. No one. You, like Williams, was the yes. It was like what what what are you gonna do? What do you think needs to be done? What I think that dumb straw boxes accompany it has done a lot around racial issues, and I think they understand that what happened in Philadelphia was inappropriate was wrong and they want to try to get things right, and I think that we are going to try to do is closed stores go through some unconscious bias. Training put together a panel of which I am a member to help advise them in that regard. Right and hopefully not have a repeat of that. But what I think is that we should, Not as a society is a country feel comfort in the notion that this is a Starbucks problem. This is a problem that is much larger problem. Probably our nation it has to deal with rights. Are it's it's a large problem that can be traced back hundreds of years? It's a large problem. That put me society, like you, say, not just into Starbucks

One of the issues you dealing with right now is in many ways tied to race in America cannot be separated and that's gerrymandering, you're working on a project right now deals a and what are you doing head of the nation democratic, Redistricting committee, and what we want to try to do is to put in place when we disputing is done again in twenty twenty one is done every ten years, so that fair districts are drawn Republicans and twenty eleven drew districts that were highly partisan, unfair in nature. Princeton did studying said these were the worst gerrymandered districts in the last fifty years bright and as a result, we see safe districts for Republicans that have led to a whole variety of things and unresponsive. Congress unresponsive US state legislatures in ninety. Six percent of the american people who want to have background checks, expanded background checks, right arms to the sale of guns can get it out to come. Because of a gerrymandered, dumb counts, but now, but I have some people say but fair place of the Republicans. They found how the system was working and they did everything legally and they worked within their means. You know, President Obama said he regretted that the democratically

didn't pay enough attention to it. So isn't this does par? For the course is that how you see a nice? I actually think that there is a case before the Supreme Court. Now, in my hope, will be. The supreme Court will look at work. Did in twenty eleven and say that it was unconstitutional inconsistent with our founding documents, inconsistent with amendments to the constitution, it's something that we as a nation I think have do. I have to make better because the reality is our boat or cheapened run. We have peace, but who are in safe districts and unresponsive to the people who they are supposed to represent, but now you working with the democratic redistricting committing. Does that imply that you looking to sway in favour of Democrats the I would have signed up for this if it was an attempt to gerrymander for Democrats. I think that if we make this a battle between Republicans conservatives, Democrats and Progressive, the Democrats and rest will do just fine, honorary gerrymandered ya. Think we're right on the issues. I think we have to support the people if you will get. For instance, it was constant, twenty twelve

we d gerrymandering, Republicans, get less than fifty percent of the vote and get sixty seven percent of the state legislature and sixty seven percent of the congressional representation. That's continue for integrity of this of this decade. Right that has to be stopped now. Some would argue that there's no way to redraw lines on a map in a way that will represent people, because if you look at how America's design and where people live, Democrats live mostly in cities Democrats and live in the same place as will be cities or you'll, find Democrats in college towns. You'll find them in historic lots and lots of mining communities and manufacturing Hobbs, so you'll find Democrats in certain places, and then they dwarfed by public and rule votes around them. So in drawing that's what you're gonna come up with the same problem, because there's no real way. They shone like the live. Happily simulations, it seems like you, can't, really draw the maps, it feels. Are you trying to fix the problem, but the underlying problem,

That's actually one of the myths about gerrymandering yeah. There is something to be said for the way in which democratic tend to cluster ruling ways: ways which Republicans question, but that not explain the way in which you have seen these partisan districts being drawn rights or the results that we have seen as weight as result of this of this gerrymandering, The notion that this is all a function of E. I mean, if you try to ameliorate this, that you can't do it because of the way in which democratic, some with Democrats, lip is, is simply not true. What do you think is a greater threat to America's democracy, Joe remembering all or voter Idee laws in America that suppressed vote, they go hand in hand, because you see the greatest amount of voters oppression in the same places where you see the greatest amount of german recline states, we, see high levels of gerrymandering, Wisconsin, Hypo, Pennsylvania, Texas. You see these

unnecessary voter id to combat this non existent voter fraud ram, and so they go, they go hand in hand only problem. I have with your reproaches, if you get me, draw parliament our approach, other problem, I'm here Maybe you yeah I'm giving you miles up if you redraw these lines. The problem I have with your approach is, you will exclude the three million illegal votes. What happens. Then. It's not in the water may be chatting more to hold off the brake. Gonna give to call me when you get into the Agee job. We will write back with more of Amerika.

What's a show with joined by former attorney general Eric holder on the show talking about gerrymandering talking about the future of Americans vote right now, some people feel like America doesn't have a future because of what's happening in the White House. James Comey just came the book where he publicly lambasted Trump saying that he's a liar he's. He miss treats women He is not fit to be in office, one people came games on those three things right right now interesting that you said that, because a lot of people, so there. You have a James call me you, the last person to come out and criticise anybody because of how much you screwed up when you in your position as an attorney general, when you look at what James call me and what is now trying to say what are your thoughts on these? yeah, I've known Jim, for I think twenty twenty five years or so, I think, he's a man of integrity. I think he is he's a good guy, but, He made a really substantial error in twenty. Sixteen,

He made that initial appearance and said that he was clearing Hillary Clinton and use that language and then obviously made the licked. The statement later on. That was not something point F b I directed to do right. That was something for an attorney general to do, or in the absence of the attorney general, the deputy attorney general was simply. He was out of his lean when here did that and I think, had an impact on the election. I think that's the sole thing, the cause them pilloried defeat, but it certainly have an impact on the alleged right and you, you outspoken, about as you said, he made a mistaken. You said it was something that would give the F B. I bad name the press of the United States, currently says the FBI has a bad name. Do you think the Donald Trump has a right to say that guy's, the FBI has problems, because,

of everything the James call me and his fellow FBI agents have done. No, I mean, I think the president's criticism of people in law enforcement prosecutors FBI agent is is unwarranted, is inconsistent with the facts, and I work with these folks, almost all of my professional career, their hard working their dedicated. You know you don't talk about the partisan things when you are in the Justice Department, then I considered something that is. This is an appropriate and when I think of you, so when we hold these elections and twenty a teen in twenty twenty Ninth Republic of China betray themselves as the law enforcement party who people will remember the things that Donald Trump has set about. People in law enforcement things will refer. People people with remember, and they will vote for him again. His people don't care, I genuinely don't. Do it to develop

I don't, I don't think they're watching you, that's always been wasted, gets nobody could have switched off and Hannity to know. You never know out they re, even though it might be I'll, never know yet, don't don't do it, don't do it law enforcement Donald Trump, the rule of law, corruption. These are all words that are thrown around every single day. With regard to this presidency, people say that Donald Trump and his administration or corrupt you have come sit on his administration being one that is correct, but what does that mean because people to corruption- what? What? What does that mean? What is corruption, meaning that in that sense, will there are tangible things whether it is Lino Scott prove it and all the things that we have been reading about with regard to him, smell of secretary price rise in a very any number of things that will have to imagine if Donald Trump, if Rapid Burma had done one of the things the down

But what would the reactionary, been oversight? Hearings calls for impeachment if anybody in the cabinet had acted the way in which you see people acting in trumps cabin you I had you know, The same thing. There is a fundamental corruption problem, in the sense that you have people acquiring things that they shouldn't have, but they are also doing things with regard to the processes of America. Breaking through american norms, I'm if not laws the norms and in others the president, for instance, telling the attorney general telling the Justice Department about certain results that he wants. Were obtained rise, inconsistent with the norms that normally govern the way in which President Santer with an attorney general or his Justice Department, right that there are some key Who would say, though, that say Eric older Eric as attorney general, you said that you regret the decision

the constant administration made with regard to mock rich, the patenting of somebody who was tied as a donor to politicians. Someone could say to you that isn't this, what politics is depends on which side of it you're wrong is that there is always going to be quid pro quo is always going to be. Somebody is a system that you can escape in a way or is there something different about the way Trump is doing it now. What I think Those last minute pardons that President Clinton did were. Many of them were inappropriate, a substantial number of a number of them work, we good I was involved in the mark, which pardon, I think, they're. I made a mistake into its one thing say that you know a person made a mistake, writes a whole other thing to put in place a system that is based on inappropriate motives and ends up with inappropriate results in debt. What the Trump administration it is all about when you, when you, see what Trump is going through right now, when you look at the stories with whether it be Michael Cohen, whether it be financial or russian, related stories.

Do you see a future where Donald Trump should be impeached, or are you of the mindset that he should go to an election and the american people should decide his fate? I mean, I think you know the best result would be for him to be rejected. Resoundingly at the polls that, however, can happen until twenty twenty, and I wonder about what is what kind of damage could he do to our country between now and then, but I don't think that the mid term elections ought to be. The impeachment Donald Trump, the mid term elections ought to be about the record of the Trump administration what they have done with regard to the climate, what they regard done with regard to the protection of not protection of voting rights, the way in which they apply to them. Deal with choice issues. There are a whole range of issues that dumb, I think, would warrant a huge democratic way in twenty eighteen, but it won't happen people simply assume that is gonna happen, people to get out their work and get out there and and vote. When you look at twenty twenty I've heard room

then you are considering running for president is, it one of those situations scene about like maybe about fifty three percent Mary. I would argue that a larger number would this crowd. You know it's funny is I think people just use driven denying it it was ignored or no, no, no, no, no! No you're! Just like you get us right. Let's go right! That's right! Let's do this thing yet do it? Can I tell you that's a great slowly, Eric hold the less. Do this thing. That's we raise their propaganda. Do that as well. You gotta do that. I like isn't one of those cases where you ve gone, like ok, George Bush and then Barocco bomber than you know, like Donald Trump, and you like another black man has to come in now. What what do you see? Why would you see yourself as somebody who could potentially run the United States of America? Well, you know what I think

I guess I'm thinking about this I've. Never I committed myself to two doing rise from makes it look easy. I understand Bulgaria, but if I were to do this now, I think that I'd look back on a long government career. My time is for any general, where I was exposed to a whole range of issues- domestic foreign policy, national security- I think I'm still a person, who's, gonna, deal of creativity, I believe in this nation I believe in the people of this nation. I believe that this She can be led to one to bigger and better and greater thinks I still have hoped for for America, while everybody

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