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family gone. I said what are you talking about? What are you saying Is this real? Am I really here? It was surreal. His fellow cops suspected him. I did not do that. I think not she was upset. She felt History was repeating itself. He wanted to have women in his wife was getting in the way were police plain wrong. It's like this twilight zone lies become true and the truth. Lies. Maybe the real killer was still. there, you have. Why did the police about this case? Guesser sound, Dennis We knew that that was probably the key to solving this thirteen years. Thirteen years fail

such an awful cried, the wife, the little in girl shot point blank range. I was just dumbfounded. I was shocked when I saw how to comprehend it. I said what What are you talking about? What are you saying the husband had an alibi could hear slipped away per se. Ten minutes he could have done anything, but then thirteen years three tries He'll reversal and change in stores the big picture. Charles for a lot of people as it sounds like a crock, it doesnt passed to sniff test, there's a lot of things. this case that doesn't make sense, it has been a law. Winding pursuit of justice as one family season. I just

more and more wrong. I kind of adopted this saying that enter into the courtroom lies, become truth and the truth becomes lies. But there is another saw. Another Pham One which sees a terrible miscarriage of justice. you wonder: if everybody got three trials, how many people would guilty people? I welcome the streets but there's one indisputable true, TIM Jill and Bradley can wear nothing less than innocence locks that evening, when listen the most every day and arteria. Whoever said time heals has now alas, the child. I can tell you that time he'll any day. The painting as a part of your time,

turn the clock back to the year two thousand September, twenty eight to be precise, a thirsty. After what a place, a church wreck Centre, Jim in Georgetown Southern India pick. A basketball game was under way with the usual Thursday night gaps. Just you guys get together. This pride Local glory data, David Cameron, but thirty six year old manager at a waterproofing business was irregular, grow. Up with this is religion with oil, a Basque born in Indiana that night after the game, wrapped up David, headed straight home. He and his wife Kim had rather quiet seven year old and little Jill Spitfire two years younger, usually David help came with the kids in the evening, but on this night he was late and he knew wouldn't be happy about that they gotta get their homework none before they went to bed and I thought she's gonna be

when I get home, is I'm not there to help as he rolled into his driveway? He click the garage total a nightmare awaited wants them guys door raised up just above the my truck. That's when I saw him She was down on the garage floor yeah actually at first, I thought was to deal with there I didn't realize it was Kim until I gotta my truck and ran into the garage, and that's when I saw Those can have you, take the Senate too much to absorb. indescribable it's going through my mind at the time I can't put it into words. Kim was still bent slightly at the waist. A long pool of blood running from her head. The doors to her bronco were open, when do you look into the vehicle? I dont remember how long it was, but after check. Kim being

sure in my mind that she was that she was gone. I just suddenly thought about the kids. Where are the kids and my first instinct was to look into the Bronco and I got up on the ass. You see and I could see more into the back and that's when I saw bread Jill Chill still buckled in on the back peasant. Side was slumped over. There was blood in her hair next to her brow It seemed to be clambering over the seat. Was there and even in year, shock that this was a gunshot event. I did not know I did not know how they had died. Serena between the council overtopped, the council, that's correct. Get back in their grab bread, bread. What felt warm to you recall

I thought. Maybe he might have a chance david- had been in Indiana State Trooper for almost eleven year that night in the garage David says, his police training kicked it. It seemed to him that his daughter Jill was dead, but if there was even a whisper the chance for his son, Brad David knew he had to get him out the Bronco and give him CPR picked him up and put him into me in turn, went back out. The same way that I came in came out. The passenger down the garage floor and what started working on exactly right, any signs of anything judges from them looking at his face and like with Jill his eye There is no moisture and they were half have shut. It was. It was pretty obvious that he was gone.

And this is all happening. What forty five seconds you know like that's near Probably maybe a minute kneeling on the bloody garage floor. Amidst the bodies of his family David, We had to get help or come out now. He called the Indiana State Police where he used to work. Ok, David Orient. We got people on the way. Okay are going to be okay or not. Okay, everybody can help now and then David David cams thirteen year journey into him was only minutes old. Your family did murder. How do you even begin

to absorb this. All these things, spinning around inside my head, real Am I really here and is surreal, there was more pain, much more still to come, The the David says he came home one night in the fall of two thousand two and other vegetables, his wife, little boy and girl had been everybody out. Your camera out now, okay, after trying, unsuccessfully to revive his son David, ran across this to a relative I heard the banging on the door Uncle Nelson was there David was beaten, nor, however, Nelson Nursing come quick, so most killer. They're all day and around it. Nelson dropped everything and raised. You David Garonne opposition,

Well, I was shocked when I saw David. get him to check on jewel his daughter in the Bronx and Nelson says he made his way carefully to the big like David, he was a former state trooper and knew the crime scene had to be preserved, looked in the back seat and that's why I saw low GEO back there, I respect that. I touched her always arm or shoulder or something, and that said chili chili chili, She was gone. I know she's gone thus a day, but I think they're all gone very thick. Deronda David lost actually went down to the ground, was LEO's back and rolling around and said What I have to go one and I have to go another stay with them Nilsson managed to get David away from the garage day was tried, his best get back in and I will not Do you really are the officer securing? I was trying to keep them

had to be done, because I knew we a horrific saying here, a crime scene, and I want to make sure that I didn't do anything to hamper it did Kansas was way beyond understand anything that night, but the questions wouldn't stop. All these things spinning around inside my head. Is this real. Am I really here is: did I really just fine came riding Jill as they are? As you know it The sky was surreal. That night was the end of everything, David and Kim, had built again they met in the late Nineteenth eightys there were introduced by me see. Macleod Marcy had been best friends with Kim ever since ninth grade She was very quiet for other people that did now her very funny, very loyal, very sweet, driven

Kim married in nineteen. Eighty nine. They threw a big fun party and got on with their lives Kim incorporated during a David has an Indiana state. Trooper career kin had encouraged him to pursue that rock rival south very using you. you're being interviewed in the nineteen nineties about road safety during the holidays. The big heads tailor made for David. Can he was soon member of an elite emergency kind of Swat team, that is a banner brothers huh, oh yeah, special weapon weapons, tactical right, Jackie yeah love, those gasoline, though they were talking about gas. You would literally nigh for but we're time after the kids were born David wanted to spend more time with his family. So in May two thousand he went to work as a manager in his uncle SAM, Lock, arts, business and left the banned. The brothers We must have been hard to leave Dave. You know it was me he had this good thing, you're going to and wanted to have more of a life, but yet you're like how much you like

we was being in line four year. I just felt like it was. Definitely was a point life when I needed to make that change, and I want to make that change and I presumed that I would remain close with guys that they would always be my friends and that they would always have my back wherever Nino by September. Two thousand the camps to be living a picture, perfect life things were going well at home. The engaged, Modern David's uncle SAM Lockhart saw the camp family all the time great mom. Mom. She would run those kids everywhere. Kids they were like rank, is little Jew. Yeah, she only about her she's a care. She was a character. She really was justified. Many load girl if she didn't your attention she'd get it. She was very

She would have been very athletic choose gifted and in that way and bread was the swimmer he loved it. He was great at being a father. I thought This kid's good there were gatherings with David Sprawling, extended family, the locks, the descendants of nine brothers and sisters on David's mothers, soil the Lockerbie worse, entrench do miss patch of southern India that they had a road named after the locker room where David's family lived There could not have been a better place for us to be when all of this terrible stuff happened. The awful news race through two families, that night David's sister Julie, was getting ready to go to bed when the phone rang said what what? What are you talking about? What do you say? Julie went straight to her parents' house. They had all the pictures of bread and Jill. I guess that she could gather up and was holding them

and just sitting on the floor and just rocking and saying babies. My baby save killed my baby somebody's killed. My babies, David uncles, ankles, Digital Kim's parents, jealous and frank rare Genesis, It made the door bell rings. What can this big wheel account? Bigger? Oh, I go out and out open the door. and I see him standing out there. I think my man swim blank and gas YO from it get out there. I shall I get out there and Samson gets abandons. Cambrian deal been shot with their discuss, laid down a sitting position. I said to her Crime could become blaming locker room. The sound of silence followed by flashing lights, I'd investigation was beginning and David's friends and former com.

In the Indiana State, police would be on the phone line, something strange at the crime scene. Him shoes placed neatly on top of the Bronco. What could batman nourished the The mother, son and daughter down in the garage of the family home in a quiet, Indiana, counting the two kids never made it out of the back seat of the Brok who murdered. The answer to that question would be sponsor billowy of the investigators, the Indiana, The police and deployed county prosecutor in Southern Indiana, stamping, bigger call attention. Three, that nine did. Someone

on the other end of phone, tell you it's bad for It was horrible fate new immediately that the case would be big got to the crime scene asap the first thing the process better noticed was the ribbon of blood running out of the garage right down the drive our stepped in at myself. He could see the wife and mother Kim CAM lying by the open passenger door. Her pants, removed. It had the signature of a sex crime. The children killed because they were witnesses in your old bread was on his back a grace. What you're lying by him an article of clothing that would become hugely important in time the boy was lying there in his hands were out. and, of course I didn't see the little girl my toe. Me that she was still in the truck the state, Bullocks Indiana top investigated, Wars have already begun its work. The crime scene

examined. The Brok took their measure. Sender pictures stand thief, study the sea Was there anything odd? Was it too soon for you to take all that stuff ain't? No, no! No! The thing that struck me the most was how clean the garage was. You just don't expect. They're some of the troopers in the garage had been fellow officers of the husband it can. There were a couple that I didn't really recognize, but for the most part throughout the course of the evening, they would be people that I knew the trooper who would become the leading Together was David childhood friends at the top right their daily? We get a clear you first and I kept Saint just do it right. I said that repeatedly former colleague David can do the score about spouses unit. Because your experience, I always look at the spouse- sure everybody's

back in the beginning. You dont know, but in his case David thought it was a by the book formality. He was confident his friends would do all they could to find the killer. These were your brothers and uniform these guys right. you ve written with him? I been there done a lot of stuff what they ve been my house. We had eaten together. We knew each other's families hunting ass. I please post will also present, as they can in this audio take this first interview that night you can hear the troopers handling him with It gloves out of respect. I found out what atmosphere can justice is delivered exactly for everyone asked. The question walked David through his day and his wife's. As far as David knew she'd followed her usual busy routine working then shepherding the kids around after school.

Running home about seven thirty p M was the shooter waiting for Herman Garage, ordered her killer. Follow her in the investing, there's ass David? If any one had been stalking kill? Bothering is, she hasn't said a word about the suspicious file and they wanted to know if the husband could help them understand an oddity about the crime scene. Why would Kim shoes have ended up neatly placed atop the roof of the bronco? Does she ever take care of shoes? Aren't much drought and never say never the same idea as the investigator

wrapped up. They made sure David got some fresh clothing because they were sending his blood speckled, sneakers and t shirt out for testing will do everything we can. We can resolve it. The next day the cams neighbors were absolutely stunned by a crime of this magnitude in their quiet community. It makes no sense. They've never been any trouble out here to speak, though, as the hunt for the killer, continued investigators asked neighbors if they'd seen or heard anything suspicious right now. This is very, very much an open investigation. Three days after the burners David can't face the cameras. I want my family back babies back and he begged the killer

come forward. Turn yourself in you can't live with the guilt. What you did was such a irrational, ridiculous, ludacris, satanic thing: you cannot, you cannot live with that guilt in a rush The case was only hours away. I'm a mess I'm on medication, I'm having to buy casket some having to buy burial plots a husband and father in more about to face the second biggest surprise of his life. Why wrong wrong

in the days after the workers to fit the luck uncles. and nephews nieces, and can Family were united in Greece. We lost three under the people that we love dearly, we don't have him with us today, Kim Bradley jail. Just like that gone David was all but shutting down. What mess among medication you know I'm having to buy caskets I'm having to buy burial plots. You know I've got all this stuff going on three days after the birth, the Indiana State Police called David. In for a second interview, he sat down with two cops. He knew well he'd been sharing coffee and cases with them for years, because the high profile case

because obviously you know well why we were doing this all by the numbers. This time the tone of the interview had changed, because now the investigators did have a war in theory of the murders and the evidence they were gathered appointed pointed to none other than David can as the killer there. One time. Fellow true their law enforcement brother was now quite possibly there and a monster who murdered his family. They had a timeline. The murders took place. They believed between nine fifteen and nine thirty. That night after David returned home people or something that was unusual when we talked to they said so. are the police canvas had turned up a neighbor who heard noise, namely shots fired from time to time when you are already home, which was nine. Twenty four, all your ever David sought where this was going and push back, you suggest MAX,

I'm just tell you what we did making up this time, I'm telling you people are confuse the time, our this all the investigators account. At David Camps Square in the crosshairs, he came home from basketball and killed his family right right right, guys, right, you're, wrong wrong wrong. The wrong arrow wrong is not right, you're getting off the track, something's, not right here and I'll fix. It They told David about physical evidence. They collected specks of blood, barely visible to the naked eye on the bottom of the t, shirt more than a crime scene. Experts, science, I already told the husband and father didn't

the dna analyze. This is the presumptive test. It is high velocity blood spatter, it's scientific documentation. The only way that comes on his route, blowback low out for revenge, album blood spatter the case against david- can add his post WWII on my t, shirt that I play ball. So you wrong arab states what we do in they tell us now we got to figure out why there find another expert, but the cops had full confidence in your mind I rely on this man and he's he's very well he's renowned as far as his expertise, because is not something he just started yesterday. The news

it's tightening. Even as David protested, the t shirt that I hit on the head Moreover, what blood it's got on key from either and something we know the power or came off, and rightly so. there was more signs of a cleaner and had to be David on this. Mr Dupuis, No, no, no, this ridiculous each day. No! No! No! No! No! No! No! I didn't clean it.

Somebody might have, but it wasn't me that person is your suspect and there was something disturbing. The medical examiner found when she looked at Jill Young daughter signs of blunt trauma in the genital area to the cops that meant one thing David Camp had molested his daughter. She was molested. It happened that day that night, that's when it happened, and it wasn't by me wrong here, you're wrong. Maybe I did not do that. I did not do this. I don't know that's why I called you guys. That's one, your job, that's what you're supposed to be doing, you're listening so hard at me. We look at everybody. well, obviously, but making your so off base you're so wrong, so wrong. Making an arrest warrant issued out of flights for four hours

after his second interview, the Indiana eight police arrested David can and charged him with the murders of his wife and two children. It had been three days since the shooting accused of murder and evidence a funk. The Sancho blows up his alibi. Yes, a teacher, and a parade of women there is, he pulls over flirts with them and eventually seduces them baby, David can once in Indiana State Trooper was now locked up in the fluid county jail charged with the murder of his wife and children, about your emotions. Every time I heard a key gene.

That's my door. I would think to myself. This is: did they feared it and they're going to come. Let me out and say Dave we messed up, but that never happened. David's uncle and boss, SAM Locker and his successful local businessman quickly became his nephew's most passionate Advocate SAM, written to make his voice her. Why did you take on their responsibilities? Have to take it as far as you could I haven't had options. I noticed listen. I know he lost. family and are now He's lost his freedom, and what am I gonna do hidden. me the focus was so concentrated on David. Did you ever think? Well, maybe I don't have the picture here. Maybe something awful happened and Davidson and didn t kill us family. Well, I never did think I killed his family. Never never, never, thought it never dig! Kim's parents, Janice and Frank when morning the loss of their daughter, grandchildren were absorbing

In fact the police told that their son in law was the killer ass. They made an arrest and its David. I was just out of it and when it I only did St Can. I was back and forth Frank how about you? What were you were talking about early days? I wouldn't harbor censure I just going by what the places telling me before along the rents became convinced that their son in law had murdered his family in January, two thousand to fifteen months after them. David went on try. He pleaded not yield by now. The prosecutors timeline had Jane Originally, he said David killed his family between nine thirteen and nine thirty after he returned home. From the basketball game and then you backtrack from that. We backtrack from that. That's because the defence it showed that the time of death was somewhere between seven Eddie and eight Pierre. Everything said that this happened much earlier

the prosecutor. Argue David, went to the gym about seven o clock, then secretly ducked out of the basketball game. Five minute drive killed his family and returned to play ball and the prosecutor had proof that David was home at the time of the murders? There was a call to a customer from his landline full time, stamped. Seven, nineteen Pierre, so you got a husband who says I was point, basketball, seven, you Phone record, that says he likely is making a called will. Customer land line here home, so he's not playing bass almost certainly would be the one that was dying and that this phone call blows up his alibi the prosecutor moved on to the crime scene and focused What happened to come in the garage deadline? We thought the pants they pull down. You Vickie the husband of the murder. Why are you telling the jury that he probably pulled her pants down as part of a staged event.

had not been raped by the prosecutor, argued her body appeared to have been moved staged. The cop would know how to do trying to get the jury to think that somebody was in there to molest molester that there have been a break and go hell yeah Investigators had never located the murder when the only physical evidence the state had that the gun was David Cams hand. That night was this barely visible microscopic droplets of his door His blood on the lower left him of cams T shirt how those drops of blood got. There was the crux of the case: globe This is what happens when you should see at close range. Yes, you get that blood on your shirt, correct We got high velocity impacts, batter on his teacher. He s been then for fear of the child at the time that the child was killed. The process I can believe David can shot from inside the cop targeting jail in the back seat at how her

blood sprayed on his shirt, but why why would David can kill his friend the reason for those killings, the prosecutor declared was the David camp was a full ring husband prowling as one of their first hand, Rolling ever heard can cry. Remember, Kim's old friend, more seem a the prosecutor had her testify about an affair David had when king was pregnant and late nineteen. Ninety four marcy told the court Kim Cauldron tears to say she and David were separated. Soon, after more see visited, can she was upset. You know and sand by had especially just have when baby- and there was more just three weeks before them or sea- had another troubling phone call from kill her dinner was different, her attitude and she didn't on a hang up the phone, but yet she didn't wanna talk. The old friends made plans for

and the children to visit mercy then came said: something she never explained. She family History was repeating itself. We didn't and I that man- because she said while talk about when I get There- can never be at trial. That clear implication was David can was carrying around again. The prosecutor portrayed him as a scoundrel who used his badge sex, there's people he pulls over flirts with them and eventually, it them in court? The prosecutor called a parade of women, presenting them as David cams conquests more than a dozen recounting the fondly the flirting the sex, the script. The patrol car he wanted to have. Women in his wife was getting in the way yes said she was an obstacle for the kind of lifestyle that he wanted to pursue this correct. The dalliances with the women warn enough to suggest motivation to the jury. The prosecutor had a capper, something really dreadful.

medical examiners, testimony that injuries observed on the murder daughter five year old Jill were consistent with sexual abuse, a little girl falling on the monkey bars no Ellen Monkey Bars when a bicycle. Anything like that So there was the prosecutions accused Womanizer child molesters. The killer would blow bag blood spatter. On his teacher, Defence lawyers had their work cut out for them, even an uphill fighters of defence to oh, yes, Yes, that's not unusual, but this one was just so much more profile the time line of the crimes that were Their smoking gun the defence is about to stop FUCK

The trial of David CARE was underway, employed County India because the winter of two thousand to find your main David CARE accused of murdering his wife and two young children, always insisted the case against him was built on quicksand, it's about them. Drafting in moulding a belief that was told founded on things that want factual and it was this- a complete diction David's defence attorney was might Mcdaniel now deceased. He told us he had known but as a trooper. What impression that you have a David before he became the client affair. Use another redneck state gap with done. Couple cases him on one side me on the other, but Mcdaniel became convinced of David's innocence and came on board to defend the

one, those terrible cases. Defence lawyer, never wants you, don't want an innocent client. You call em a ravaged because they make a crazy at trial annual knew we had to confront all those women, but how the defence could only flinch and take the body blows to camps character, but you're gonna could picture this huh working wife nose to the grindstone taken care of the baby's running the household while he's out with pulled answers on duty. got thirteen women governor with varying degrees of sexual doctor and you end up another troopers wife. For God's sakes, not a good sign effects, not a good sign, a fax, the defence pulled out, potentially its strongest. What and put David on the stand to say he knew that he'd messed up. You know, I regret all that stuff, it's so unfortunate. The disrespect that I show my wife

But, dear God, we don't jump from that. The saying that automatically makes a person a murder, it's just ridiculous. Then the defence had to confront the ugly allegation that five year old Jill Camp had been molested. But in fact the medical examiners report had not actually said that simply stated. The girls bruises were the result of blood from the defence argued. The bruises happen during the attack Still it was tough going. We've got a guy who seems to have a lot of girlfriends. There may be some evidence here of child molestation. This is a very, very tough thing to combat day it is virtually impossible. Having done its best to hammer the states case for motive, the defence turned to the physical evidence, the state strongest evidence. The forensic case for David Skill was the blood spatter. A defence expert testified. The blood got on David's T shirt. Very simply. When David reached into the back seat to move his son s shirt brush,

against his daughters, hair. There were tiny droplets of blood on some of her hair around whom so defence testimony was. I was transfer from that contact with the ins. Of the Syrians over here and then the time the defence lawyer challenge the prosecutions theory the David snuck out in the middle of his basketball game, killed his family, and then returned to play ball. The defence of turning focused on the phone call from the camp House at seven nineteen per year, when David said he was at the church, give the state had tethered it's time line to that phone call that was their smoking gun, which they have bunch of those in every time they have a smoking gun. We just downloaded the defence unloading by calling a witness from rice who testified that its time stamp was incorrect because of Indiana Jumble Times

so there are seven. Nineteen on call actually was my six nightly phone call a call David made to apply it before he left to play ball an even more David, had a solid alibi I witnessed the basketball players to corroborate his story. That he'd been the gym throughout the early evening. Did he leave the court that night now he couldn't Well that's what you guys guys that that one out, because I would seem at one point- I run down the court and then maybe yeah for asylum at another point in time. So throughout that time, there's ten sets of eyes looking in different directions. As a group, I think someone would have noticed that he was missing SAM Walker. The uncle was playing ball. That night to SAM the basketball game. Is it possible? Dave could have slipped away. Is it possible that he's

Snow gap out was gone. Ten or fifteen minutes killed his family's knocked again without any one of us noticing it absolutely not that's impossible, but Eve it wasn't the killer, then who was the defence had its answer? It was personal home that grace what you're the one that was by Brad's body on the garage floor, the knight of the murders, defence attorney. like Mcdaniel, had recognized the sweatshirt as present issue in the car of the future. Is the word backbone and I'm thinkin? Ok, it's a nickname. Just sunlight sweatshirt reveal dna from various people, including an unknown mail, but the process. You said there was no match when male dna was run through the national database. Still it seemed to be a breakthrough for team date. Proof that someone else was in the garage that nine we knew that It was probably the key to solving this. Now we didn't that person by name bag,

we knew him by dna profile. Finally, it was up to the jurors as well well lingered in the hallway the jury deliberated for three days, David Kam was found guilty of killing his wife and children. Frank. The jury comes back and guilty, as Georgia is what we wanted and now with. Like you know, women can Andrea Dagon. We and the rationale from David Sister, an emotional out, before I knew it. I was standing up and I were screaming you're wrong, you're wrong, you're, wrong, you're wrong me. A few people had to take Mallika Room and European walked off and change you're, not leaving. Right and knowing what lies ahead of me, you know going to present a former police officer. There is absolutely nothing I can do about it. David came

was sent to the statement attached to serve a term of one hundred and ninety five years, but his uncle SAM was hanging in. you didn't think you're finished at that point and let's say it killed me: that's how they going to stop me. They can kill me. No, I wasn't it wasn't over not by a long shot, but not even Uncle SAM could predict the stuff in turn the layer. bringing the case someone new enters the picture Brain is TED Bundy Thin, as brawny has MIKE Tyson he's a sociopath who use this guy, the Where do you find the perfect developer? We found a return home office in Prague, but you can find her

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the early two thousands David CAT was found guilty on three counts of murdering his wife and two children, his sentence. Hundred and ninety five years behind bars you ve, been sentenced. I am rather you're gonna do time in bright. You're learning how to become incarcerated ahead too choice. I had to figure out how to survive, and I made my mind up early on that's what I was gonna do we have you get confronted inside the joint. This is the guy that was a former cop trooper in not directly, but you people. Say things or you'd here, people talking and so on. Did you think I'm done,

meanwhile, I was his bewildered at first, but I didn't know that there was still a possibility or some glimmer of hope that there's this thing called an appeal, a successful appeal. Another try both convicts cling futile to that straw, overturning first, the gray, murder conviction flung out. Yes, until you read that transcript a new team of attorney, pity. Lyle and Stacy Aliona took the case to the state court of appeal and then long live in my mind. I think, as it was way over the top. What was over the top. They argued was allowing all those women to testify to the sex. The grouping the commons was weeks after

weeks, woman after woman? How is that relevant to what happened on September? Twenty eight jurists- this is a bad guy. We got here absolutely he's a louse of a husband and we're gonna tell you more than that. That was intentional, too, and guess one two years after the guilty verdict. The appeals court agree, the women should never have been permitted to testify. The conviction was overturned, but the victory was short lived. A new prosecutor announced there would be a second try have to review of the previous evidence and review of new evidence that has come to light. I've decided to pursue the charges against David Camp for the murders of Kimberly, CAM Bradley can enjoy. camp with another trial loom defence team was intent on sharply into focus a piece of evidence? It believed would said David Free, the grace watcher that unknown male dna back in two thousand one

prosecutors said there have been no match when the dna was run through a national criminal database, but SAM Lockhart says he approached the new investigators to run it through again. They weren't even wanted to talk to me. To show the unknown dna. So in case that this guy had been arrested We got new dna on this data bank. Would you run this? Not we can't take it and the attorneys dry. They asked the prosecutor, we start saying please when their dna, the database please do it. He refuses to state finally ran the DNA three months after sale log, our first started asking about it and lo and behold we find Charles Darnay. Try, bone aid, as this may mean anything to you did me a thing I never heard the name before was complete. Shocked me, Charles Baloney, a name that would change everything in the case against David came bony. His prison nickname was back The same name into non sweatshirts collar you describe, They turn out to be as.

Brain is TED Bundy, been as broadly as MIKE Tyson. It's a sociopath chinese boon equipment needed a history of violent crimes against women. it began in the nineteen eighties when he was a student at Indiana University. newspapers called him the shoe ban and follow. It is bizarre crimes. There'd been four separate. Incidents, is early M, o he'd knock a woman to the ground and make off with one of her shoes, really creepy staff like one crime. He,

or one of those China Doll masks like creepy stuff. You can't make up the police will end after one arrest. He admitted in effect that he had a thing for ladys legs and feet. He pleaded guilty to those crimes and the time is attached became more violent. He began threatening women at gunpoint. One incident involve three Cohen's. He had been watching them and one night just walked into their apartment, held them at gunpoint to their heads, took them out, kidnapped them to the car. Luckily, somebody saw him with the gun leading that women out called Bloomington Police Department. He pleaded guilty again and was sentenced to twenty years in prison for armed

library, but was released after serving only seven years by July, two thousand and three months before the cam murders. He was out on parole and the defense maintains he still had. The old compulsion Kim can fit the profile. Guess he has a foot fetish, and so when they thought at first that It was not a sex crime, we kept saying. Well, not everybody targets the same place and sex crimes Kim can have bruising on her to choose where, on top of the Bronco pants had been removed and boldly switch with his dna was at the crime scene, and it turns out that DNA had been in the data.

His three years before the murders it took one hour and one email to find Charles Boney. That could have been done in two thousand and two had prosecutor faith done. It and you'd think on a case in which children and a mom are murdered ambushed in a garage that they would bend over backwards to do it right stream faith was the prosecute. retrial wanting the defence it won't. We asked you to state the prosecutors to send out to be balanced it to be tested against a national register of DNA, and I asked lead investigator to do that, and so we didn't get anything there are in fact he hadn't send it out at all. No, I think he said it out again. Send the proper dna fate says he later weren't the detective sent out the wrong dna samples from the sweatshirt like midday, davits, first defence attorney didn't by then I too are

He also gave a rat. No, I don't think you're asking by IRAN it he told you we did yes. So when he said the prosecution is lying to him lying means that you knowingly to tell a false. Time a lie. I told you what I thought was true, but whatever the truth is now more than four years, There was a name to that DNA. Do you allow yourself to think here? We are on our way to case closed. Finally absolute, We ve got a nature god, genetic Forensic evidence- this is the right, you're, absolutely right on new suspect in the hot seat. If anything else lead you to your done, stick Is he worried that wasn't the intent interrogation, where will at least

the two thousand and five David Ben behind bars for more than four years generally September through February when my darkness times of the year, you know the times of the murders and then you have the high days and in the kids birthdays in February? Did you feel yourself becoming institutionalized ahead to two degree and for me, It is a matter of you know a bit sitting back and observing, and seeing how things operates so that I could fit in enough you to be ok, oh, I had a lock the real me now. Inside our spirits was he holding on honor was sinking Dave would think only briefly, he would have lows there'd be times when I talked to him any sound really down, but he never stayed there because it.

Stay. There is staying in that despondency, that hopelessness is excruciating, but now there finally seen it be a break in the case, the unknown male dna on the sweatshirt had been identified as Charles Monet's and, just two days later, the cops brought bona in and started grilling him on how it ended up on the garage floor. That sweatshirt is in the middle of a crime scene of a triple homicide. Somehow that sweatshirt, Yeah they're, yours will assure you explain to me how, together I have no idea. Bony admitted the sweatshirt had once been hit,

but said he dumped it in the Salvation Army Dropbox about a month before the murders it shows up at a crime scene not longer not not worse than went through Salvation Army drop us would have been a plain sweatshirt. Your dna changes are probably going to ban on there, but it is I see where you come from. As for David, can you know they became? now. Maybe we can now do you remember the murder became famous. I tell it. Yes do you know where they can live. Alia, tv, I didn't even notice address- is the interrogation went on for some twelve hours with NE sticking to his story. The detectives released him with a warning. Make no mistake about it. If anything else leave you to it,

the step of walking ass. He had been only worry me. I wasn't there. Then too. Ex after letting bony walk there was something else, something big early yesterday morning I was notified of some additional scientific evidence that Mr Bone AIDS, so the homicides the prosecutor revealed a palmprint found

and the exterior passenger side of the Bronco doorframe was left there by none other than Charles bone. A investigators had been aware of the pomp Rick for more than four years. Only now did they know whose it was. Bono was hauled back into the interrogation room and the questioning became more confrontational got some explaining to do here. Charles, your palm print is on at Bronco you're there. Now this is the time this is the place. This is your last stage that you're going to have to tell us what happened there. This is yet this can't be at Charles after hours of denial, bony changed his story. Yes, he did know David. Can they met playing pick up basketball thin in another round of questioning the story changed and changed again. Finally, bony put himself at the crime

Whereas allows only said David Camp asked him to get an untreatable done, He said that he was a guy caught in the wrong place at the wrong time as events started downfall. and the investigation. It became apparent that this case was intertwined between two people. Now the prosecutor had a new theory. David camp did not act alone, he had a cold conspiracy. The ex cop at the ex con, were each charged with the three killings. David was rage. He believed he should have been set free. After all, Charles Bonus signature was all over the sea. He attacks women, defenceless innocent women. He takes their shoes, their sock. he holds guns to their heads and threatens to shoot them in the head. You know all Those things from his previous crimes is exactly what happened again. Why can't they see this that you know

They just turn a blind eye to the facts, but the prosecutor had a different set of facts. We know that the defence is maintained, that this is now the killer, that I should dismiss the charges against David can. The evidence is not there. In January, two thousand six, Charles Bony and David camps trial separately in two different courthouse. While he wasn't accused of being the shooter body was found, guilty on three counts of murder: the deaths of Kim Red and GEO can he was two two hundred and twenty five years and the prosecution team reject. any notion that bony acted alone. Why those tiny specks of Lung IRAN, David but not on bony watch is sure, does not have I velocity blood spatter on so a former Indiana state. Trooper is now going to be a co conspirator with a Phelan there myself, This story is the only thing you ve got that link camp David. Can there's no phone records.

No one's ever seen them together. There's no text messages, there's no smoke signals theirs nothing between David Cameron, Charles Bonnet David came second Nobody was named as the other man and the sea also charged with the triple martens, otherwise the case against and was pretty much the same absent the female witnesses. The appeals court had thrown out this time to state focused on the allegation that David Militia It is five year old daughter as a motive for the workers, while the motor was Kimberly was leaving David. Can and she was leaving aim because of the child. Molesting and let us leave it could not let that secret out. That was the secret in the Camp House, the defence counter rotten eggs to show. There was no solid evidence. The little girl had even been molest the states theory. Why David murdered his family was purely made up? It was just a speculation. David came had never,

charged with sexual molestation, but that didn't stop the prosecutor. From closing his case with a big, dramatic flourish, he took his finger and stuck it and games face and said you molested chop child a jury took four days to reach. It's verdict guilty on all three counts: can t there. David came has now been convicted of the murder of his wife and the murder of his two kids Brad in jail guilty guilty. You with this, inflammatory evidence. This is just such a heinous accusation, but the saga was far from over David Cams Uncle still refuse to retreat. So you go to David. You say we try They were not Andy, you got hang in, there were not. done. They certainly work dumb, fuck prosecutors, more done either. The placement of sweatshirt lead you to believe that David can put it there

Charles Monet. He was just getting started. He wants me to deliver a second hand. I lock, archbishop to clear the name of his nephew date. Continued unaware. after the and Charles Bonnet, with both convicted of the borders of David spam. Now we ve got the killer, who kill can read in jail? We finally got that accomplished now. Next shore, we after that? We were still after getting gave him another. Try you back to the appeals court again right the Indiana Supreme Court heard the appeal:

Honey Stacy is Stacey and Kitty Lyle State on the case. These crimes are also connected. They argued that the evidence that day molested his daughter was pure speculation and should not have been allowed. In the trial, actually no evidence at all, that cam was the perpetrator that right, two thousand nine with the upper court agree. It convictions reversed two words. That's all I needed a second victory for the can t the conviction was overturned and the judges ordered a new trial. Statistically, a successful appeal of a first degree: murder charges a longshot, and yet you got it it twice doesn't happen doesn't happen. You know, if you don't believe in something bigger, you need to really evaluate you're spirituality, because you know man, a God thing

Sir David Cameron, trial underway now in Boone County in August, two thousand and thirteen more than a dozen years after the murders, David CAM, faced his third jury. A special prosecutor Stan love. Goat was appointed to represent the state you're you're, going to start the third trial. And how did you approach your case? it became yours when I first got it, it was just overwhelming I've. I've tried a lot of cases over the years, a lot of death penalty cases, murder cases. I've never tried like this are never seen anything as complicated with no philander in husband, no molesting father. What room It was the theory of the crime of David left. The basketball game killed his family then went back to play. Some will. Once again, the prosecutor argued that

seen in the garage was stage to look like a sex crime and your pants have been removed. Crack removed after she'd been killed. What's more, the positioning of Kim's body he argued was not what you would expect of a person who had been shot and fallen feeder. Another our about roughly ten twelve inches under the car. Her legs were at an angle which seemed unusual unusual. How the well they warrant straight. They were at an single legit. You just wouldn't expect him to be that way, and the infamous sweatshirt the one that once belonged to Charles Bone, a was also part of the staging. The prosecutor argued the placement of the sweatshirt was incriminated. I thought the way it was put there and lead you to believe that David can put it there tucked all too neatly under Brad CAM's body.

Don't put their on purpose to frame Charles Bony. Remember no murder weapon was ever found. The heart of the prosecutions case was still that Franklin blood at the bottom of David shirt. Of incriminating evidence. It argued marking David as the shooter the little girl was seat, melted on this side as you're. Looking at the time what stain pattern analysed was an expert witness for the prosecution in a brook ghosts or to the one owned by the cantons he demonstrated for us where he believes David was waged inside the car to get those specks of blood on the bottom of a shirt. What's a likely posture, we'll shoot her would have been leaned in somewhat like this. In order to yet the correct trajectory for her- I noticed you, your shooting hand, is a pretty high. It is, is at an awkward shot, it's not necessarily awkward, but we have to go with the physical

and the physical evidence isn't like this, but why so few spots Bevil said it's because most of the blow back at the inside roof of the vehicle, like much of the other revenue the blood spatter. Testimony was essentially the same as in the other two trials. What would be enormously at this time was the star witness. The jury was going to hear from Charles Bo Ne himself a huge risk or prosecutor Lufkin. So you gotta wonder how good this witness Monet is going to be for you right. yes. Certainly, his credibility was gonna be in question. Why put him on the stand? I felt like? I didn't, have a choice didn't put on the stand. I suspect they would have, but also the jury out here? This is the story. nay, told in court. He said he met David Cameron July, two thousand playing basketball little local park. We talked about nay A, and it was just a pick up came a basketball. And I didn't know him or really any

and there I just I'm fresh out of prison in the scene is different. After the game said, came, was brighter talking smack about how easily he'd been bonus. At that point, I just said: well you know I may have lost the game, but at least I have my freedom Freedom, I was like yeah just got out of prison camp. nay continued then told them. He used to be a state trooper at the end of it, They did you know my name now. I didn't know his full name until our second chance meeting. That meeting was in September, Bony said about a week or so before the murders- ran into each other at a convenience store and got to talking in the parking lot, the gist of Conversation was about. Are you employed re stay out of trouble and then it evolved into well what types did you do to get in prison. In the first place he was creating his form of Intel. He was learning quite a few things about Charles Bull named Bonnie, told him, he'd been inside for robbery. When I saw They started to let him

what about some of the things that I did in the past. He asked me well are used to able to get untraceable weapons untraceable. That's what it led to I'm dead We need a clean, Guthrum Nanda, something that there can't be traced by law enforcement and ballistics. So Nay said he swore to hand on the same day, by day, again in a parking lot and handed over the weapon he paid body, two hundred and fifty dollars But one gun wasn't enough. As bonus story goes, he wants me to deliver yet a second hand gun I followed? Mr came back to his house? I can see visibly exactly where he lives, as bony chose that they spoke outside. The house were just five minutes oh, they asked when he should return with a second gun, and I'm asking this man. You know what time? What time should I back here will want to come back on Thursday at approximately seven o clock, etc.

so I knew at times to be back so meet me here on Thursday night in the evening and you'll have some more cash in your pocket. Absolutely. It was thirsty September. Twenty eight the evening of the murders, I arrived it. Mr Cams House had approximately seven o clock he city here over the gun to Camp wrapped in his grey sweatshirt where's. This happening right outside the garage, so we exchange pleasantries and my sole purpose is to simply get the two hundred fifty dollars for the second weapon bonuses. After a few minutes, the Bronco, with the wife and kids, arrived and pulled into the garage, and what happens I hear a little bit of commotion. It just sounds like something's, not right. It sounds like their arguing and then I was now, here in immediate pop, and before I heard the pop, I heard her say: no, and it was a commanding no like stop, and then I heard a pop, then I heard the word daddy to more pops followed.

You know what that was. It sounded like handout. So what you think thinking that there's this is a crime scene So do you say I gotta get out of here. I would have liked TAT just left but as he emerged from the garage and pointed to hand- and it may I was frozen now, you're a target. Absolutely so to kill trials, ball, nay, but the gun jams at that point reason says: I'm out here. well. The thing is once I realized that your gun doesn't have projectiles at it now. My job is to get you you're going for him. Absolutely now as bony tells it. The scene moved into the garage, as I go into the garage as Mr Kam, I heard him say you did this I took that as this is your crime has come wood inside the house owner says he saw the victims, the wife down by the car door members who her being fully closed,

then he says he stumbled. I try over shoes, I remember king. These shoes are clearly touch something that is now a part of what what murder, same so yeah. I did pick him up. I did try to wipe a moth Kim Shoe Z place them on top of the book Then he looked inside the vehicle and says he saw the to choke. Mindful of leaving dna and prince, he says he touched. None of the body then as he heard, David moving inside the house, and I clicked into my head he's Goin for weapon. This guy's, a former Indiana State Trooper, at which point here, diplomacy had I stayed any longer. There's, no doubt he would have killed me. He would have just lied and said to his buddies in an essay police. I came home and I found this blog. I after turning to bona testify the defense was ready to pounce. That's his story. And it makes absolutely no sense, but it exe

lanes away all the evidence that they had against him at the time. But what boning didn't account for was the dna that was good. Found, and he has no story for that. new DNA evidence, absolutely fought with him touch jail. If Charles Boni have to say now, did you do that Charles Bo Ne? Did you kill that family Where do you find the perfect project manager? well, we found him in his perfectly organised home office in Adelaide but you can find him

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The case against David CARE. The defence argue was this preposterous, this time around, as it was before, who could possibly bible prosecutions? Overly complicated theory, the deep it left, the basque Well Game, two killers fan there is absolutely no way he could have left that gym. You have to believe that he knew when he was going to get to sit out. He timed it perfectly so it'd be right at the time he was going to meet Charles Monet and murder his family. It is beyond belief what he would have. I too have put in place in order for this alibi, commandos. Synchronize, your watches kind of scenario. It's absurd, there's, absolutely no common sense way. He could have pulled it off. and can had a solid alibi.

And men had seen him blind basketball from a little after seven. Until about nine twenty that now there was no one to support it. Part of the story bony had just told there is not one shred of evidence that puts those two people together, Richard Cabin was face on the defensive III and the reason there's nothing. There is cause it didn't happen. Once insisted. Monet was the sole killer in the garage that night and that back in two thousand investigators ignored evidence pointing to the convicted felon. To make that point, the defense called Damon thing: veteran homicide. Detective who now trains police in how to conduct murder investigations? I don't like taste test firing and so the cops I'm very uncomfortable with it. They recited flaw after flaw in the cam investigation

most significant, he said, was the handling of the sweatshirt ponies sweatshirt with a homicide. Detective actually get some physical evidence that it's got somebody's name on it and dna. You hug it. You love. It is such a rare event and they thought of it as an artifact which are non legal terms means move on, forget about it, it would have changed. Everything first of all, within two weeks tops they would have had bonus. and they pointed out other blunders as well. The heavy reliance on the blood, better teacher back. Is the physical evidence against David Camp of all of the crime scene possibilities. The most misinterpreted is blood bugbear. You don't hang the entire case, just Interpretation of floods, better, you gotta have so much more. The theory stage such crimes flat out wrong. They really never probed out the fact that the a or somebody with a panty fetish or something just sexually excited the view of women's legs.

Won't say who fit the profile of Charles Bone a big problem, because the suspect that they don't know about and won't know for about five years has complete personality reflected in that crime scene. Up to the point of how Kim was found and remember a bone, a palm print had also been found broke up more evidence. The defence said that he was the kill. So here we have a nineties are afford rocket defence expert, Eugene Licio, an engineer who reconstruct crime scenes showed us how the Palmprint would have been left by the shooter, is just a simple is reaching into the vehicle like this. To make a shot for Jill, and then Bradley. You would lean over a bit more and fire shot this way. I noticed that you brace yourself here and this is where crime scene text find a palmprint. Yes, they did. They found a palmprint up in this particular area, but it makes me sense that, if you're leaning in that, you want to be able to stabilize yourself, especially if you're, making a shot and now the defence.

Fresh, scientific evidence that body actually put his hands on two of the victims. Bono, story, of course was ironic like. I did this. I never touched anybody clearly, not true, Something in the field of DNA analysis called Touch DNA Lab export. use human cells to make an identifying hit on assessed by touch. From bony skin cells was found. Kim came. She went to her underwear and on her daughter Jill shook. The DNA conclusively proves that he absolutely fought with him that he touched and the defence hoped its cross examination of bone aid would be still more proof can have. deal himself to watch bone. I understand you're, looking at him right no way for me to actually prepare myself for that, and it was a situation where.

I really had to think about what was at stake and doing what was, right in that moment, haven't set there. Look at the sky that a new killed my family and now react did you think, said bonus for it was absurd. For starters, why wouldn't ex cop ask an ex com for a gun that police officer doesn't think? Well, how can I trust this? Guy he's a criminal in the guy who just got out of prison? Doesn't smell a rat. He doesn't think. Maybe I'm being set up. It makes absolutely no sense. The defence took on board story. In cross examination, we had some of the same questions when we spoke to him. How many versions did it take to get to the store? You just told us what three four or five times and Amy yes I finally realized that the more I keep lion, I'm just digging myself deeper and deeper, I'm not going to get out of it and when I did finally start telling the truth about things, I didn't feel if the revealing too much too soon, because I didn't want to be a part of that.

to begin with, so once again resorted to tell him the latter stories, but the big picture here too for a lot of people as it sounds like a crock, the felon out of the slammer, would hook up with a recently retired state police officer and do this gun exchange. It just doesn't seem to make sense it doesnt past snifters there's a lot of things about this case that doesn't make sense. If I were you, I would have a law it's going off inside my head. Here, you are on probation. How do you know that this former cop is really a former cop and he's not setting you up with a sting, although, did across my mind. I have concerns about it. There was something about him. If you ve spent any time with Mister Camp, he has I have put new at ease. He has a way of making. You feel, like he's legit,

everything's, ok and plus I don't care what the gun was for. You ve provided this former trooper with weapons. It was on a special weapons to with the indian state police. He was swat soap theoretically here this premeditated crime he's gonna trust handgun. That's come off the street that hasn't checked out, he's just on rapid from the sweatshirt and immediately used it for his business. While it was, it was again those are questions that I and possibly answer. Why did he want me they're at the crime scene? We know why because he wanted me to take the blame for all this so has both nature The transaction happens. He delivers the gun, here's the gunfire in the garage and then David can tries to shoot. Why? Don't you just felt right out of there You point a weapon at me, even on a prison level. If a guy comes at me with a shank, I'm going to get that shank from him.

And then it's my turn. It's that simple, I'm just going to put it out there. I can't get in any trouble. My intent was to kill David CAM. That day, you tried to kill me and now I'm going to kill you, but before I had a chance to kill him. I stumbled across this beautiful woman, dead lifeless on the on on the ground. Then bony said he stumbled over the woman shoots and took the time to place them on top of the wrong, but then you're down on the floor. The way you tell him you ve tripped yeah did I tripped over the shoes and then your emotions are going wild. This guy tried to kill you at a crime scene you're going to stop. We have to believe that you can say: oh shoes are going to put these now on top of the vehicle Charles, whether hasn't it doesn't make any sense to know that make everything I'm wiping the shoes off, and I see one little leg or somethin hanging out the passenger side. investigate to see if there is any one else in the back of the vehicle, and when I, and then to look. I put the shoes

top. I don't remember doing it doesn't remember doing it Andy. Cause. He doesn't know why I wasn't thinking about. Why did that? But I was cognizant and really thinking about. the dna or possible fingerprints from having tripped and touch those shoes, but you know that Palmprint, Charles just where you would brace yourself to lean across to shoot that little bless according to a defence expert witnesses, you gotta stand the prosecution. Has that same evidence. They don't see it that way. What I'm saying if you're so concerned, about tidying up. Why would you be so clumsy is to leave a big old handprint on the vehicle I leaned in to check on the children when I seen there was horrifying, I'm not worried about that. Imprint, I didn't even realize that I left a palm print. Do you think that if I had known, I wouldn't have taken the time to wipe it off? I wanted to just get out of there. Did you touch any of the victims? Charles? No, I did not So how does he explained his touch? Dna on Kim and Jill Cams clause? I've touch David camp. We shook hands and

handled my sweatshirt, Skin cells are clearly on him, so anything that he touches can be transferred, while the defence couldn't tell the jury about bonuses pass the foot faction. armed robberies. We knew the record and asked him about it. When people understand your criminal history, the fetish is what happened in that garage seems to fit your appetite. Where's his disguise history just played out on a violent scale that he'd never been through before well. First of all, History does not consist of killing women shooting people period. I've met ever had anything like that in my pants, Yes, I've been in possession of handguns. Yes, when I was twelve years old, I

some arm robberies for cash trust. Let me put this to you directly: were you in the garage that night, with a gun in your hand, taking control of Kim Camp? No sir kid started cry. I told you to shut up shoot the wife when she comes after you, richer Camus theory is totally wrong. They never happen in Europe. Forget the sweatshirt forget about trophies of the shoes that maybe you were gonna take later, but for the first time the sex fetish each that you have has gotten totally out of control and massacre to family. Did you do that? Charles Monet? Did you kill at family? No, Sir That's the most ridiculous thing. I've ever heard a guy with a foot fetish, kills an entire family just to satisfy his foot fetish in a place where he's never been before

never happened. What are you open enduring here today with bony? Is the wild David camps? Trial came to an end after nine wings over right now we can work with the jurors believe the tale bade her the Philip duped into a crime scene by the ex cop for the third time in thirteen years. His fate is in their hands, I was scared to death verdict. Number three: would anyone dear predict what this one would be? everybody can I had the same feeling, but none of us had been the nerve to utter it.

The jury and David camps. Third trial had the kids for two families. There was nothing to do but wait. The Rex Kim's parents wanted nothing more than to hear the word guilty again. The new evidence had not changed their minds. You believe David killed, your daughter and catch yes, change. Why isn't bonuses presence enough to explain everything that happened in that garage, intestine. There's just

many other things to make story been told him both says he. I dont believe neither warm or tell the truth. You have got worse than a verdict has been reached. The jury took ten hours to reach a verdict as behest we guilty. I mean I want a speck, nay, they were guilty. Prosecutor stand, live, coals, glass was half full or better. I thought we had a decent chance. I thought I could go to the web, but I thought the tree one really well, but Kim's mom was worried. I was scared, occurs, telling turn your only out ten hours. Really bad feeling from the beginning was gonna, be guilty David in a holding cell, got ready shaking violet, I literally could not fix button. My shirt are fixed.

time my collar and Sean Deputy said help me his family. The law courts were heartened by a relatively fast deliberation. Everybody kind of had that same feeling of this might be good. None of us had been the nerve to utter a in our because you don't want to stay that cause the hurt. The pain when they say guilty is so devastating. Julie was breathless waiting for just one tiny word and been kind of time practice in my head. What what was it sound like to hear the word? Not not you know we'd always heard guilty. So what kind of just fantasized about hearing that word and that's exactly what she everybody ocean? Look what we heard that the word not as in not guilty once twice three times here, the first one and then new here, the second wine year plan a guy, you hear the third,

and that's why I asked it: you know knowing. Finally, finally, the truth has prevailed, a justice for Kim and Brad and Jill for me from my family, and I just fell to pieces Not guilty not guilty thirteen times three. Yes, Sir thirteen years thirteen years and fail

everybody around me I liked was crying day was born. I just sat there. I think I was finally saying we've got this thing done. Finally, for the other side, the parents, the grandparents, the verdict- was a devastating blow where they said not guilty of catholic rip. My heart out writer. I really like this game. This gave be right. What did these jurors see that the earth twenty four jurors and the past densely He was convicted twice bad point for different people, and these were people sing, some that they didn't say David. Can you tell me how you're feeling right now outside the cameras were waiting? This is complete vindication after thirteen horrific years. This is a mirror. my situation. Is a miracle We are here conducting this interview right now

God literally had to move mountains to make this happen, but that mountain would never have moved without dedicated attorneys and Uncle SAM Law now have been wanna, be, was unknown reason. I'm doing this is because days, my nephew, that's big reason. Absolutely that I know is innocent. He didn't and the only thing are new to do then must continue to fight until we reach the solution that was proper. Finally, the David can't case one a dominated the news in Southern Indiana for years was over. Your name will be cleaning but you know they're still gonna be people who can appointed you whisper and say that's the guy they got away with killing. no wait. I can help those those people if they choose to be taken that's on them. I've had

ten years my life taken away from me and it's their problem. If they choose to be ignorant- and it is a choice for those who knew and loved him red and Jim there remains a yearning to know what might have been for the wife and mother for the two young children No telling what came out of bed if she going to be what the kids have been to, we lost all that they've lost all that David CAM says: he'll, never get over the pain of what And in the garage that night the painting becomes- part of it. and you live with it. element of who, I am you know You know how I love my life. On the day of the verdict. As a security precaution, sheriffs deputies drove David to a pre arranged truck, stop Urged him over to his waiting Uncle SAM. That was the moment he was really free. Wasn't thanks are I think you're funny hit him had they write.

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