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MAX is whether, in Canada, high MAX welcomed with show I'll be right. Absolutely what's up I'm not much. Thank you so much for having me. I just want to say that I was you shall for about a year now- and I say I want some ass about the major merchant measure. Now that's really can best. She asked I want to thank you shot first off. Thank you, sir. How can we help so I'll try and keep the shortest possible with global? Have a complicated story. It's not so. I'm fine, it's the more my relationship with my parents into something going on, I'm so sorry, Nineteen. My parents told me that they were the voice. And over the next year, or so I guess picture it seems, and other people I'm nine this summer, so tiny, tiny university answer at the wasn't really there like the like last year, like doing with the school year,

anyways on my pencil novel few people and other both How do you do this new, like stout man, I usually found out that my mama there do you a favor back in two thousand and eight and while she was cheating on the guy that she's currently seeing my God before the courts not kind of why the divorce Happening and my I told you this does not analyse, and the son, I'm back in school throughout the summer months and asked I'm putting it fifty fifty two house in the only about half she walked away the same town, but whenever she is a guy over carefully stand see him in my mom who now, but I know that she done him. I don't really know what to do because I doubt has gone through a lot for through Hogarth divorce, boss my mom and I do know you treat him too well and I want to kind of approach. I mounted men relationship, Now, I'm whenever I see here, I'm stuck in a hurry broken Anderson. Whenever she urged like

all I can say and I want my moment I wanna make relationship. I don't have one gets invites got. How could do that sanctions really hard? Yes, freaking me out is yeah. It's interesting, there's a weird dynamic. When, in anything, I think your parents make choices different in you, and this is obviously an extreme- that's really disappointing, but I think we have this weird experiences as adult children of parents making decisions. You don't agree with because you feel almost a little bit like will you you wouldn't have done that, but also you're earth reflection on you, because it your family, it's your parents, my mom and dad. Both have certainly made choices that I agree with, and I think the thing that has helped me and I'm not accounts

MAX. But I'll tell you the thing that has helped me is just separating myself from that. Just think that does it reflect me, that's not what I would do. I certainly don't agree with it, but my mom is a grown woman. My dad is a grown man and they can live. There live how they want to eat. You can talk to you now. I think you can deftly there's a there's room for open, honest conversation about your hurts or whatever you're

comfortable sharing with your mom in order to mend the relationship. You definitely that harbouring that I dont know that that's gonna be healthy for Europe to be able to move forward, but I do think there's something important about separating yourself from that and not feeling like it's a reflection on. You are your identity because of their choices. I don't know Dave I mean what would you say? No, I just it's a hard time for you, I'm sorry. I would recommend you if you're, not in a good church, near area that you find worn and you get some pastures around you from good, strong men around you that are living life correctly. That can help you walk through. This endless walked beside you, because this is just a difficult thing: there's not a symbol is not simple formula for a broken heart and in a sense, this knowledge. If it's true, if you're dodging telling the truth move its true, it break your heart and I make sure

you like it but a part of a truth. My part, all of us getting to be grown ups as we figure out their appearance imperfect, and we move on from that. Through its hard, though I mean that it is a hard generalizations. I'm not saying it's easy and say is easy the thing is. Is there let let's pretended is true, ok tell you shadowing Moussa, hey Dad told me this ambitious gags me the grocers me out and I'm just gonna set out loud. I dont know that you can you not no matter what her response? It doesn't become less true, it did happen And so there's lining that you can say- or she can say, that's gonna make it not have happened assuming extra a guy- and I dont know if it is not your dad's complete,

line and malicious. If he had asked me, should he tell you this, I would have said no, it's not his business to tell you that it was hurdles Mr China will it happened. Was my sister had found information on her phone, and then I looked through it and on that kind of information, the mass my dad laughter at all, then that's a little better than I had told me what I ask your mother, because I just go directly to? I wonder and my dad and alighted other at the same time say I want to talk to her about it. I want to give you our, but- and I think I think probably dont, need to be stay in there you need some physical distance, and then you just say yeah the others parts of my mom. Don't you You can view alarm and a lover Anders parts of the stuff that she's done love and Oliver anyway, you know and arm- and you know it because the tree It doesn't really affect you, except to the extent that you wanted to

it hurt. Your feelings makes mad disappoint you, but but in terms of, does the Does the situation actually affect you know you're RO man, you're in college and you're out of your parents house and are both runnin off in different directions So you just go to London, where they are as what I would say, but I think you need to get a good, a good pasturing, your corner than a walk with you and guide you on it. I'm pretty. I need a one council doktor John Bologna tonight. data in our Phelan in for him, but he asked. But but you know those are just a guess: life things from people we coach born life all the time about all kinds of different things, solutions from our days, but I think John would probably say. Firstly, we need to do is just stopping grieve. The fact that you're illusion illusionary picture of Europe, the perfection of your parents, is now shattered both of them. Neither one hour perfect, it turns out.

And you know what was wrong in the marriage that that you know your dad didn't deal with. That. Put your moment position felt like she's: do that knowledge is now saying she's a victim, but obviously the marriage was not healthy. For a lot of reasons to things can be true to you. Can you can grief that that happened in your parents are perfect and you can acknowledge their doesn't affecting both can be to get a domain? That's an you can accept somebody for where there are about bankruptcy worth twenty years old. I can't do that, no matter how much disappointment stop that from having happened. Yet happened in this is that I am sure

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where's your personality, Christie, rioters, Michael votes today here on the day, were show man is in Minnesota, high man. How are you behind you doing tonight. I'll pick me up. Are you going to the quick? then, on clear toys, I'm wanting to get a new car, in my work plays I work for a major ah no one on hospital and I would like to brand a little bit, but I I got diagnosed years a baby and I very trying to think how to explain it. Like sorry about that, I'm way than how'd you get in.

that I always married nervous. Asking me can I handle this job because Limitations with might enter ineffable disorder. What do you do now? I work Ah, Sir Neil Kinnock, I transport women in the hospitals. What are you? What is it you want? It My career goal is to be babies and their past and our peoples cancer, while good for you, and so what would you need to do to do that? You haven't done certifications? What would you due to get qualified for that. I would have to go through another schooling, witches Two years I'd like to bust, do I get my associate then I would get my bachelors and radiation therapy. Does the hush resolved but are willing to help with tuition,

Yes, they give three thousand a year for undergrad and five thousand need overmasters. What's the sit down side of starting lap, just my own inner personal self, up just having the competent knowing I could do it and it's myself, because I've had a dd. Since I was diagnosed, first grade Anderson. Just knowing my knowing what I am capable of and so that the lungs Each word. I've always had just a confidence luck. All that is lower, now is larger than on watching back there. That's logical putting me back so, but here's the thing confidence is built by doing something doing it.

Now and then you know you can do it right. So what if you started taking the classes and by going through the process, of getting the certification. I think your confidence would be built, don't you yeah it's at it so interesting, because I think sometimes we wait. Matt fur per Jennifer affirmation from another person to give us that competence, but that'll, never enough, it has to be from proving to yourself that you can do it and what so great as you're, not in a jumping in the deep and we're gonna leave this job and try to do now that you're, not sure you're able to do the classes would not prepare you do. I know if education standpoint, but it gives you those wraps that experience that practice. Where you go after a courses completed after you know several different things that you have to do you like him, gosh, I M doing it. I can do it and I think a lot I know- what you're facing Matt Israel that its medical, understand that I think there's also a piece of it that way

to put labels and limitations on ourselves or other people do? And then we live in them as if that is that that is an she'll barrier that keeps us from doing these things. I dont think that that you have proof that that's a barrier. keeping you from this job, I think in your mind it might be. And at Dave's that there's a part of it. That's logical, cause, you're being wise would like what are my limitations, but you have an opportunity to try. Class. Proselytes courses trotted just you know, so if you could even shadow or get meets, and people in that department, and informational interviewer some questions. What is there, what are their days like Then the more you do that one tiny baby step at a time, your building confidence I do know that wasn't that hard on that really interesting. I was able to maintain focus here because this really engaged me in this in this way, and so I think you're goin, to surprise yourself, and I think you're gonna break out of the box that you been living in or think you're living in and building confidence with you, but it doesn't it.

This terrifying leap, it's just a tiny baby steps in the direction of where you want to go the rapture, and I want you to take those steps or competence. a true of any, I was from the first under our basic offer: some drive a car first, I'm gonna date, the first time you do anything. You know we're all a incompetent and be scared, see not really conference, I'm good at it couldn't have done before it from a turn on the microphone. I was scared on my mind. What I was doing, I don't answer the questions by a sound like a hick on the ear, and it is for I gave the right answers and saw got to come back the next day, but that was it. and so here I am thirty- almost thirty years later doing this every day, and so previously I'm better at it now and more confident than I was back then, but because of wrapped in a first I mean you know we do both of us are published. Bakers and writers,

for some. You write a book in our first time you doing out here everyone build confidence by building their competence and competence, gum from in Greece, learning and wraps, I don't belong Europe's top it all the time. The antidote to fear is action. Nothing or silence your you're doing the thing like doing the thing so go? Do the thing it's in doing the thing that that fear lessons in your confidence grows in you got all my gosh. I can't do it, I did it once I can do it again. I see them true, like we're doing our mammal scheme and tell your ride with the boys and at the top is another day at the top of his dad gum, black diamond and self I was part of a fall land all the way in the village media, so steep. I couldn't see off a climate of, and I mean I'm sick. Years all I get up there, my heart starvation, that, like a four year old boy at almost la belle ass. We go ski because of an get going

he's frees up down the monitor, does about on get moving the animal fears, action if I did not start moving those keys down. I'm here that I was gonna frees up. The top of it, but what happened with regard to correct what happened when you would happen when you made it climbed army, I crawled that we are getting faster, though the bottom, what happened was another we're going up there give us what happened, but it's just amazing. You know and you survive through it and now and I still brush do a member could spill long long time for me we're out physically scared, and I thought I have gotten myself into a measure and I've got it and anew if I stood there and thought about it? No longer I was an outgoing up taken a squeeze, often walk, and that would be a two and a half hour rude. Will you I just want now we're going I gotta gowk as ambassador and think about it, the screw this You just gotta get what you appreciate the story. So last week in my husband, I went on the I've only water ski, like maybe fifteen times in my whole life and grow up on a boat or anything like that, and so on, again we have the kids with childcare, is to weaken matinee and I decided

a drop a ski to flower good for you, like you, know, you're scared, like you're nervous, I'm like I'm, not a professional skill and barely you're gonna fall, I did and I fell it. Maybe three forty, I finally get the hang of it, but man when I stayed up and our road that solemn afterwards is like much popped out. My soldiers like, I can't believe I did that I can't believe I did that to be at any age doing anything new. Were you surprised herself and go? I can't believe I did that. That's a cool feeling! That's all! really cool, failing to physical examples, but their careers? any slurs, relational examples or spiritual examples of where ya the best antidote to fears action. I really like that. That's good now go that that up a breach of good stuff, because we are we talk about runner. Even our are one of our core values Ramsay that we ve got. Fourteen core values

the wall that we really are there, not Russia fillers and one of them is fair, not right, and it's not that we are never afraid. So we don't make decisions based on and so you can bully us. You can put us in a corner and you might scare us now you might. I just can't costume and are you much scare me, but that doesn't mean I'm like the based on that fit right. I'm gonna figure out a way with you, but you have you put me in a corner and I've just gotta figure out how yeah- and I just you know the first step is to not freeze up and and surrender think of the sign you're doing something bad office, just assign you're doing something new, the black Dimas slalom ski whatever it is. I love how Joyce says new levels, new devils them push yourself outside your comfort zone? Of course you're scared. You never done it before, but it's in the doing that you lesson that fear so go. Do it go to a shorter? such right now sign up today can I'm glad you get four years work for you ever get to do the job anyway, so you got some time you get! You got work through that go. Do it

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calling from thence obeying you ever a dead breeze, scream drivers and Barbara are weathers. Hey guys, our yeah we're doing great rambling. How are you better than I deserve. Congratulations. How much of you paid off forty eight thousand eight hundred fifty seven dollars, love it. Often how long take twenty two months, and your range of income. During that time we started out making one hunter. four thousand and we ended up making one. I'm thirty. Two thousand lover awesome very good, what're you gonna do for a living. We're both go features so how. income, go up. Thirty are glad twenty,

thousand dollars in two years, Travis Fried something in the summer time, and I served the fish to people transcend MA. Am I also went from in part time as a teacher to working full time. There. It is ok. Well, darn guys, regulations. What kind of debt was this We had a little bit everything we want. We were normal, as you would say, we had the a pension loan of twenty four thousand. two car loans, just over ten thousand to student loans at eighty, eight hundred utility loan at forty five hundred enter parson alone at eight hundred dollars to are to get a real estate licence. Actually you guys we're just listen said completely normal. You borrowed on everything.

What what snapped? What lit the fuse twenty two months ago, tell us your story. Thank you! Yeah. It actually started in March two thousand seventeen was March night. Barbara. I hit a pretty low point when we had to go to declare bankruptcy, and that was almost twenty thousand hours and credit card debt and, as you Know- and I know a lot of your listeners now with we really our experience, anything like it, it was, it was really got wrenching and we were sort of lost and floundered around for just trying to buy. Groceries It was like where we were those people who, are literally making too much money to be. This broke you now and then over that next year I found your party

and found your programme and Barbara, and I we we managed to get on board and that just changed everything forest while so this much of the dead survived the bankruptcy, then yeah? Ok, while the other data that'll get your attention. So you haven't you concept. I can't keep doing what I've been doing. I keep getting what I've been getting someone's gotta train driver ever again absolutely hundred percent them good for you, well that Ok and you start paying off the debts and twenty two. Months later, they're gone how I feel I can it's the most wonderful feeling because they go far distressing, for not being able to pay our bills towns into so many other things. Like one little hiccup and it believes in the air thing else in our lives and now we get to make our choices

say how are we going to spend this money and that is free? and that is love like we get to be generous, and it's not just our bank accounts not just our budget meetings, but it's a part of it thing we do in life, it's its freedom, I have never known, will likely never known it's amazing you get paid, you get to keep your money definitely wicked villain not having the dead is wonderful, but having to troll is even more wonderful how it and it's just having dinner. Haven't I mean we're just so grateful you your plan, your wisdom, you know, I mean Barbara Barber did all her hard work and I I just read the books and listen to some podcast. You know, but is it really true changed the foundation of that of how we live our lives, which is what is in deep gratitude to you, sir, and in your programme.

Very girl, more proud of you, man, that's amazing, well done very well done. Who are your biggest cheerleaders? We did. We have allowed people in a corner. You know I've been uncle, who was very supportive and you know what we have to thank my mother for sure, my mom anytime. I pick up an extra shift, a barber to pick up an extra shift. We had their mama right, a corner to baby said the two kids and mom was always a giving us all kinds of hence about headed, had a budget and save money away So what is the number one thing you tell people when I say how did you do that you pay our forty nine thousand dollars in twenty two months, and make more money. You ve made your life and the process. What are you tell people it is getting out of debt is fair I was- and I believe the key is communication and sitting down to have budget meetings. Because in the beginning it was hard. It was in an always an easy thing to do

but the more we were committed to making it work, the better the communication guy and dislike, I said earlier like it please into everything else in our life and our communication just is better across the board. That's called right. I think you know that the discipline and integrity in I mean that and I have a touch of the free Spirit, a man anytime. I you know: rabies New sulphur in barber was right. I would remind you now that that way, far out nor budget future in now when we await non that yourself, oh but when we get it it'll, be on our terms. Early in cash for sure, amen, wild die, You guys we're gonna copied Chris Organs book for you every day, millionaires because as an extra during your story, one should keep going now. Baby steps for five, six some wealthier unfinished changing your family tree yoga amen. Well done

ravishing Barbara in Pennsylvania, forty nine thousand dollars paid off in twenty two months making a hundred for up to one thirty two, download, zero dead breeze grew three here Why that's? What is the right one? You know I'm really free, I thought a loving congratulations. You guys were proud of. You very well done our question that I come from blinds dotcom, find out for yourself. Why blinds dot com is the number one on line retailer of custom window coverings? You get free samples. Shipping and new promos every month always use the promo code Ramsay to get the best deal. Our question Christie. Yes, this comes from unless I intend to think she visit safer Amsterdam

and says with everything going on in the world right now. I find myself ashamed to celebrate my business successes because other small businesses and small business people are hurting right now, shared my success with my customers to show them how amazing they are and how they show up for support. How can I Navid this time that were in with grace and without making others feel bad? it's interesting. Dave is the people that asked this type of question usually are Once you have to worry about it if she's up aware enough to know. I want to be considered of other people. She's probably celebrate her celebrating her business success in a way that all he is filled with grace and social awareness, and she didn't say hello. As she said, how to celebrate. What's going on my best, What's going on? My customers there's nothing negatively. That if you have a lens on it, that is with humility and gratitude, it's gonna come across Europe. Well, you don't have to completely diminish, what's going on, business with your customers, if you do it with the right heart, it's how you go about it and you're, not aiming bullets at other people know

so you're not saying you're do fish and look I got I am saying this is working, fine, or it might inspire them, and I encourage them. Young people need to hear stories of winning at any time and when times are great, went on for bad, they all need to see examples, and here examples are now, we ve got a friendly, minion Francois here in town that started a cupcake thing with five dollars, and the ten million dollar business and she started that in our house making cup catch, and I can't think of any region I would want her to not Solomon right right. I think anybody in any business at any stage, while it's good or bad, should go I love hearing than your story right. That's good news. Good move

good news site. This is the direction having said that, I round pressure, I Ramsay personality is my couch today here on the air Spencer is whether Lima Ohio, I Spencer. How are you are lemme play MILAN?

The Lima! Now I gotta dig it Michael. How can we help so? I ve been, recently found your programme and being going over my finances and trying to get down our that's, really write them down and where there are also my question: is we have about the UK that total eight eighty Six hundred is coming from my car, which at eight to thirty eight among my question, is if I, if I private thought I would get around ten to eleven thousand, for it would be worth it too you just pay out that long get a the overall there out away, or should I keep the car because it's it's a hunt acidic so I've been told reliable and maybe do I never eat or something to supplement. My income

What is your household income? right now around sixty thousand. My fiancee is currently going son Amelia and bring in income right now? When you get married, the end of this month. Actually on the thirtieth brow. Congratulations! Wonderful! Thank you! When we, your fiance graduate. she's graduating next may be doing our cosmetology. If this was a huge chunk of your dad. I would show at my heart beat, but it's a small portion of your dad and you need a car unit. I mean it's, not some extravagant car you're smart Authority does not work, so I'm probably gonna hold onto it. I'm probably gonna hold onto and pick up the extra jobs and by the way she can too through. Ok, let them make sense, I dislike it right now, working from home seven days weeks, I didn't,

by this week. I guess I'd, I don't know. Maybe it made sense to tell it now get a cheaper car for its now. Why am I here? What's gonna happen here, should be dead free in two years anyway, and hear me moving back to a reasonable car soon it during the anyway, so the There is not really what's killing you here, it's your income and on the other on the dead and so forth, and so, as you married and she works and extra job while she's putting out finishing up cosmetology school, you work and extra job. You guys are going Is you workin, I think, you're a clear all this debt pretty cool then again, it's not a big Porsche, your dad, you know you can do it. If you want to sell it, it's ok, but it's not a day Ramsay She writes slap on her hand on the table. Gone you gotta, get stuff regards. Not it's not! That situation is this. You know it's interesting in the last few weeks, when a ban on co host? what you gonna show. I hear this type of call. Pretty often someone says something very similar to those color. They say,

hey, I'm new to you, I'm starting the plan, and they want to make this big decision and in what I was sensing is when you or start in your kind of overwhelmed by your debt, sixty thousand whatever it is. Eighty thousand you one and not just have a quick when you wanna have a big quick when it's almost like. We want to feel like I've made a huge amount of progress, I'm really on the plan, but to your point you can take an extra job. Do breeds do something like that where it's just consistency over time. You talk like this all the time in the course of the hill here that leads to winning can do that without because it you can sell the courts on about it. But that's not gonna, be the thing. That's gonna get you debt for super fast, and you just probably want to feel like he's late, a big difference. Do you hear that, like us, I've noticed that pattern and if you can get a quick when it's really good, not only mathematically but emotionally, and maybe ten thousand dollars and mutual VON Karajan, impact on the debt. Yeah, that's a good thing. Yes, we're gonna! Do that. location out your retirement, but the cash out their retirement to pay off. My dad is a quick with its take its scope,

the exact same age that you're talking about. Yes, you're its exact same patiently brains are in our emotions that that we that we want to do so and again, if you had a thirty thousand our car, what there are thirty down our car period, what the dead on it or not? I've been getting of it and then situation, because it would be a big, quick, went This is a small win, fairly large sacrifice. Yes, the trade offers not there for me, the headache of cell in the car and bought a new car to downgrade a little bit unit. A mean is just yeah Europe must show our six hour Northanger through dialogue. Are you to move the need right? You know, that's not that when his numbers- but I mean that's the same category- that this falls into this is in Tampa high grace welcomed that over actually show my question is not my husband and I won't eighty set to work

We have a Monday to Friday job, though we want to open a residential painting business, but only for the weekend as our side hustles, and when I'm thinking it's gonna. Make no more profit. Maybe thirty thousand a year, though, to protect my ass, her cat, you know, I'm just might What I said in a low be what I says. You know my point either, just whatever Holmes I have you no recovery. How do you know what it is to buy any? Like my you know, do you know you have ever been, or do I just as you know, for ten I denied side by side, with the federal idea. Number four, already domination of liability. so really what you really want. You nation Sharon's on your business

I was right. I do have an I'm gonna get ensure there. That's all hell. That's all you. You know I know how you do not have a network of over a million dollars. Do you now ok about thirty thousand our business show the business is not large enough it as a target on it, and your national assets, not big enough that they ve got a target on them, show just some good insurance and don't waste your money and screw around with Elsie. only reason you would need an l as if you're trying to protect from liability and not this bill. Starting with three hundred grand or you look up, you ve gotta paid for Property in your name is worth five hundred grand or something you want to get an l l seed at that point than that's fine, but the vision then is Ramsay solution started as a soap opera. A ship and we were well beyond through thirty thousand dollars a year income before we incorporated which we live, converted to allow Shelly. I get this question all the time Dave and I think I think it's too part one people,

king. Do I need to incorporate it for my side, business, that's, making ten thousand dollars a year because they felt that that's what a real business is. This was what it s more legitimate business. There's once on the other side of the equation is they're getting advice people, you know attorneys more people in the the tax and legal profession that are saying you have to incorporate you. to set your business up as an LLC to Peter executes risk and getting area as of so many people, that's a barrier for them because they like what I'm not really do that or on how to do that? Are that's too much money, etc? And you don't have to range from House- and you don't have to go painful- doesn't get some money and if you paint a bunch, get a bunch of money, the moon, the more worried about an l l sheet, but This idea that it is you don't have to does not legitimize your business and it, not mean that your official, your official, when you pick up the Russians are my page. If that's at them

but you is official. You is a painter point. This is what happened until I pay you for it. You're not alone. that's the measure of the legitimacy of the idea and the allow seed not legitimize the idea or the business or you wasn't what she asked, but there that down in that question, all the time, you're a guess what an even like you said like one when they're at the set up stage. If you google it, if you talk to someone who has a friend who is it a large sums they'll get that advice that they have to stay there, not sure what to do from their side is lover: mining people- hey! You don't have to do that out of the gate. This is a small business. It's a sign business. Let's validate the idea, let's get some cash flow in and then we can talk about that. If and when the business justifies, it showed us exactly our work folks, oh yeah, you can get an e iron employ identification number from the Irish. The does absolutely nothing. It just identifies the business

behavior payroll taxes or for purpose, If you want to run the you when you get rid of failure, so proprietorship as schedule, she younger incomes. Return needlessly just, but it doesn't, it doesn't liability at all. It unchanged the factor that whatsoever that question that you for right now puts us our that I've Ramsay Show in the books our thanks to James Childs, our producer, Gilad Annual, our social producer and phones, greener. I'm day, Remsen, your hosting and we'll be back,

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