I will start today would something that many of us at this point intuitively probably understand and something that's also been made explicit by the FBI and other law enforcement agencies over the last year or two, which is that at this in time for the United States without saying anything about times past necessarily right. Now, the? U S is facing as way more domestic terror threats as foreign terror threats. There is a very interesting Newsweek article about this. Which says the. U S is facing far more domestic terror threats than those from international parties. According to the FBI, Timothy Lange,

an assistant director of the bureau's counterterrorism division, told lawmakers Wednesday that the? U S is broaching more than twenty seven hundred domestic terrorism threats the number of international terrorist threats is under one thousand Langen also gave statistics on terrorism related deaths in the U S, from twenty fifteen to twenty twenty, there were eighty rope where did international terrorism related deaths compared with eighty three deaths linked to domestic terrorism, Lankans testimony, follows FBI director Christopher, raise statements to Congress earlier this month when he said the knight or of domestic terrorism cases has exploded in the last year and a half a recent, a people, found more Americans are concerned about threats from extremist groups based on a based in the U S, as opposed to those from other countries. Sixty five percent of: U S, adults report, being extremely or very concerned about domestic group threats compared with fifty percent

feeling the same about foreign extremist groups. We there there's a couple things here one is it's really common, that people's fear of things is often out of line with the actual danger of that We see this with vaccine stuff right. There are lots of people who are afraid of covert, but this movement of people, afraid of the vaccine. When really it's covert, you should be much more afraid of. That would be one example. In general, people tend to worry much more about, for example, being the victims of terrorist attacks, despite it being in insanely unlikely than any of us would ever be, doesn't mean Some people won't be, but statistically speaking, insanely unlikely verses things. We don't think much about like getting in a car every day, which is act We compare comparatively dangerous thing, given the number of people who die yearly from terrorism in the? U S verses than

who die in car accidents or being more afraid of flying, then driving a car. even though the driving and in a car is a far more dangerous. Ok, so so that's one thing that oftentimes, even though the domestic terror threat is a bigger threat, people think of the aid of often it's dangerous Muslims from the Middle EAST, or sometimes it would be brown emigrants from Latin America or whatever the troop of the weak month or year happens to be. But the number two here, our entire media apparatus is in the United States, that very similar to what we see in other countries. Radicalized people into is often referred to in the. U S, as jihadist terror or Islam or asleep. Missed terror we have

equivalent in the United States of these media outlets that spread hate and so fear and radicalized people and Many Americans don't recognize them as being the sort of domestic equivalence of the stuff that we say. Well. How did this people these people end up getting radicalizing the ISIS, for example, and you look at them, media and the internet content. But then we wonder how so many people end up getting radicalized to the point where they write it. January, sick store, they put pipeline in Washington DC or whatever the case may be, and then you look at what we have happening on Facebook and away and news MAX, to some degree, a Fox news and Alex Jones and so many others, this stuff radicalized people as well, and where It should come as no surprise that when the rubber hits the road, the domestic terror is actually far more of a threat. Mathematically than before

in terror, and yet another report from the FBI confirms exactly that now. If you think that although the number may be greater, it makes sense it's because well in the U S, so the Americans are already here that doesn't mean that they are more dangerous on average. there may be more of them and we know if its eighty three verses. Eighty deaths from terror. The fact that there are more threats doesn't mean that much. I would disagree. The fact there are that many potential nodes of radicalism and terrorism domestically, means that there is way more people who could be activated could be activated by the exact hyper rhetoric that we ve been fighting against. Let me know your what's. This is something a little different. Anybody has covered this. Ok, because one of our viewers, Tanner wrote to me and said, hey David, big fan of the show,

After seeing many of the ridiculous responses to mask mandates across the country, I decided to see if this is happening at my local school board, I watched the most recent meeting and was not disappointed. Attached, a video in which a middle school student and her dad both quote Hitler during their. and he mask presentations to the school board. This is really wacky stuff. Ok, I'm gonna play this for you. This is the Thomson school district. They claim to be the seventeenth largest school district in Colorado. They claim to have about fifteen thousand students under their purview. You really have to see this. This his daughter and then dad who quote Hitler in there position to masking and the crowd cheers it's crazy. This is short and Thomas were start with Charlotte here? This is very depressing. Let's take a look,

and by the way I apologize about the audio quality. It's it's very harsh. My name is shot K. I am from birth in I, like start my dress, with a quote from a very politician: he alone who owns the you, gains the future of the famous politician she's, referring to his Adolf Hitler, just so people now quoting hill. I was just turn a milestone. I say, was because I had to leave your school district because of how your teachers were treating the second we go there. You may imagine my name, I don't know where mass, because I am a local conditions and make it so I can't wear masks and because of that, I was segregated and sent to the library when I attended to use. My right Really I read the fourteen them fifteenth amendment. My constitution was ripped out my hand and when I tried to video what the staff are doing, the teacher took my phone. I mean: is this so that the sad thing here

is ripe. All of this language about my rights were taken away. I was trying to cite a man, since from the constitution. A kid doesn't come up with this. by themselves and you'll see when the dad comes up exactly where it's coming from. Is this a form of child abuse? I mean in a fourteenth amendment, Granting all persons born unnaturalized in the? U S, a guarantee of equal protection, fifteenth them, The right of citizens to vote shall not be denied or abridged on the basis of race color a previous condition of servitude. What masks I'll come on, and you can do news then disappointment, I even better the teacher said I was a ten percent and other child. When did you told me, I can kill everyone school and to quote the same politician again, if you tell a big enough line

Tal Ricky enough, you, it will be believed the same politician. That's Adolf Hitler again! That's that she's gotta Hitler who say that you're supposed to keep a student saving pictures from the big bad boys, but you and your teachers are pulling me and all those students in the district has outwork all your students were beating a lot of yours to incite because of those actions, and when I try to show my sat, my fellow for form the teachers took and rubbed it peace, it is drawing my property went out in school. I had to go home multiple areas because massive headaches, due to the mask the passengers and causing being above ninety degrees when I used to love school. But now I dont you have ruined schools me and fortunately is too. It is too late for me, but I will fight for audio kids in your school age. It included

older sister. I hope you have another that you ruined my my love for school and one less time to quote the fewest politician: Adolf Hitler when diplomacy and war begins. Thank you for all. Duration, so quoting Hitler three times there. Now I have I'm not making fun of this girl. I see her as a victim. I see her as a victim probably of this guy. The dad, ok, comes the dad we're gonna pick up his comments in private as I guess we want, we might say- then they do teaching We have a problem, we have a problem when we have members, family and friends, calling it further their agenda that problem, Now we hear that parliament stands with this bird who refuses to believe that even when demonstrated a bird who served

Jody Mass mandates for eighteen million bowers. How much will it cost the same Chauvelin into mandatory vaccines, what asked you willing to say our children into children have to be mistreated, abused or society would prefer. The bird is willing to look into an incident. Your mission statement is mindless drivel. It is here lip service to this community. That makes you feel good about what you do. I must face in this board and based on your staff and your actions. You, do not have our try assume. He means you lost faith in the board. Not lost face losing face is something different, best interests at heart. With that said, our carefully immediate resignation of everyone on this bird lotta resignation, people just everybody's calling for resignations these days we live. Confidence in you. We have no trust in you.

and you have not shown run out of diplomacy and, like my daughter said, when there's no diplomacy there, And even staring down the members of the school board, there are so so like Father, like daughter, both quoting Hitler their anti mask screens again, I see the daughter as a victim and I see this all really- I mean we we we can attack this kid. This kid got the idea like this from somewhere and you see exactly where it came from. This is really sad stuff. Unfortunately, these types of presentations or likely not going away anytime soon. Let me know you're Let's find me on Twitter, it department you can submit, submit video of your local school board. Meeting. If you want to info at David, Pachmann, dot com will cover them. Let's

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Just as a guest, oh yeah, yeah he's welcome any time to my streams. I've even invited him on a couple times, but he's bit, you know very tied up with either mowing as lawn or video gaming or different things. So it's hard to find just that perfect time for Louis to appear, but I actually I had lunch with M yesterday and he's doing well he's soon going to be shifting over to an electric vehicle going fully electric and yeah he's. No, no, no other news really with Louis, but he's welcome any time. Ok, all that I had asked. Thank you. Alright things, Ronnie, there's a there's Ronnie from New York with a very strong question. Let's go next to S DE from Dallas, Texas, SD you're on their eyes. where's your take on. So the stakes are now being the new master all

legislative districts and I want to know what was your taste so far? Honor the gerrymandering fora becoming day. I've not read that much. Bout it other than there are some interesting districts that could just be eliminated like, for example, Lauren, Birds district. I guess if the prick proposed map is accepted, she may does not have a district anymore. I've I've, not you know one of the things I'm trying to do is when there is like may bees, let's wait and see if something is happening, unless there's really something specific. That could be done to change the course and with with a lot of this, the gerrymandering and district, drawing that's being proposed the waiting to see like what are the final submissions, and are they even really going to be accepted, so I do not mean what's your take? Is it Arthur particularly egregious examples that we should be looking up? Oh yes, oh yes, yeah! You can look at states like on taxes, sand. Ohio, It is absolutely

egregious the state legislature you're absolutely be. The w area- but I guess I was really more looking into its own knowing ass, the gerrymandering is going to be pretty egregious across lobbies, red States is it worth dropping the principle of no gerrymandering in blue states and just fighting fire with fire at this point I know this is always the thing which is, if the Republicans are just going to keep doing it in the states they control. Isn't it a unilateral disarmament to say alright? Well, we'll draw them fairly in the blue states, and then they all draw them completely unfairly in in the red state, I think on this, for as long as these are the rules, Democrats have no, choice, but to use the system to their advantage when they can, because otherwise we will never even get the opportunity to change how this is done, but the

more has to be to change the system and then, of course, you get to this question of our people who got. Because of the system we have really going to be motivated to change it and that's a very legitimate question which we addressed. I think it was last week on the show, but no I mean listen. If, if Democrats just say, let's drop perfectly square districts everywhere and do everything perfectly and then publicans keep doing like their Dan Crenshaw districts. It's one of the most egregious examples of Republicans. Do then it just for there makes it so that Democrats will never actually be in power unable to really deal with this issue. So it's unfortunate, but it is what it is rounded and you're much my pleasure. Thank you. So much for the call very important question very important question, there are areas where we say we're not going to stoop to that level, because then we are as bad as then when this is the system. What sort of like saying I won't even accept political donations? Ok, what are we to loose

look at what we have to work to change. We have to do campaign finance reform, but we will never even get that opportunity if everybody on the left is like. I won't even do campaign donations. Another person who raises more money tends to win, and it's just an vision a reality law go next to all Brody from Dallas, we haven't heard from Brody for awhile, what's going on there whether David I'm doing very well how you I'm doing well. Thank you. These I was expecting you Clarice her good bye did you again. I have a few questions regarding the infrastructure bill and the new terms, As you probably end, users reported on an hour where the progressive caucus are seeking to basically get the deal that was agreed to previously, which is the structure. Andy your book bills. at the same time, do you anticipate

fails, yeah, meaning if both bills are not passed, the same time that the blame is going to be in place. on the progressive solely do you think it will be blamed on the net the crowds waiting, the five will be, and what do you anticipate to happen with that bill? It real depends on the media coverage between now and whenever that ultimately happens, I think that all the usual suspects are going to do all of the usual blaming. So Republicans will blame Democrats for crazy bills too much spending blah blah blah sent As Democrats will try to blame the progressive wing. The Prague massive wing will say centre Democrats trying to make nice with Republicans is what ultimately, so all the usual suspects will do, all the normal blaming. What narrative,

succeeds, which is ultimately going to depend on corporate media coverage and and that that is unfortunately always the case. But I just think there's no way to know right now. Everybody will attempt to blame exactly who we would expect, but whether that will stick in the minds of people as this is who is to blame I just don't know yet it sort of like when we have this debt ceiling issue and sometimes the public blames Democrats more sometimes they blame Republicans more typically, it's just fault of Republicans, but the meat a coverage of it is often what determines who gets the blame politically, it's an unfortunate reality, but it is the reality. And then, when last quick question, do you think that they'll be any fall out from the DES ceiling argument and posturing with regards to maybe increasing support for changing or carving out the filibuster. If you think it will remain the same, I'm not sure. I know what you mean whether whether the filibuster argument will be effect now is whether these bills pass. I'm sorry

a separate track with Mcconnell posturing, The dazzling watering down the wall that put any It is a shame, shhh on how folks all about the filibustering? Sadly, I don't think so unfair I mean I don't know, but I guess you just keep it I don't think so. Well, thanks to those who sought to pleasure are right. There is theirs Brody from Dallas, let's go next year key from Charlotte is that is that Charlotte North Carolina? I presume yesterday's David Cameron, I can hear you fine, okay, awesome thanks for taking my call, so I wanted to ask you how kind of noticed it seems to me like the right is better at stigmatizing and demonizing. words and certain things are associated with the left more than that

After so does it give like an example? You know then deferred decades Dave worked on demonizing a term socialism and it's kind of still stuck and all the like. You know like wings. economic schools of thought, like you, would you, if you're just a normal normal person? If you think that you know Marxism is synonymous with genocide or something like that, but I just don't see the the left like as doing as good as the jobs like. You know, demonizing a lot of ideas that are associated with the white. Right only example I can think of is like a kind of demonize nationalism, but I cannot see that they are trying to revive that. What do you think I completely agree with you and you are not the only person to notice this. Sir George Lake off has written about this. To some extent, Thomas Frank has written about this. That this is. You know you go back to the very basic framing of forty. Ample tax relief tax relief?

Fish is evil genius in a sense right, Will you relieve people of taxes axes are a burden. It's just taxes, burden people, you get rid of taxes. You will leave the burden that is a complete Lee Absurd and myopic framing of the fact that government needs to be able to do things, and we have decided that we don't do in most places a private fired up men are police department and and roads in all these different things, but the terms tax relief at us the actual level she's things in favour of the right and the left has to argue against that and it they done it with socialism. They ve done it with abortion in a pro life. I think that there are deaf the opportunities for the left to take to win the branding game in a one example that dish started a year and a half ago these

publicans who are crazy about the pandemic, either they don't want to deal with it in a serious way. What have they should start we called pro virus right. There on the side of the corona virus. That's the that it should be framed and its. If I, if I'm the only one doing it, it's not gonna, do anything. But if that had been the free, for a long time that when they do these things, they are really on the side of the virus? We may have been able to change the trajectory even a little bit of the way that the pandemic was dealt with. I think there are opportunities but you're completely right there, most part. The left is not doing well on this issue of naming in framing. whoops? I accidently, I'm sorry, I accidently muted you there. What we're using can, I was sorry to hear me,

guess. I can't knows my father. Knowledge is no problem. I was just going to say that the one more recent being that of notice it- and it is kind of maybe map that ever since the like social Justice protests last year, a bunch of these boomer Republicans for the first time you know heard the term woke and they ve done everything to demonize it. Like saying that, I, like a really hate, what's happened so the term, because I think back, you know that it's not a new things been around for a while and was always just about, like you know, be conscious of, is about being conscious. No, like history like understand like how the systems work in everything and don't just always fall for the mainstream narratives. Now you know they ve effectively. Demonized to wear it just means, like anything, you know that's

The like you know that don't call any sort of climate change proposal woke me up this and I feel like its effective and it's just like a hate how we're losing that battle. It's the exact same thing that happened with the regressive left, where there was a very brief period, where progressive left really meant something or someone or an idea. That is, stand left but it is actually an authoritarian, regressive thing and for a very short period of time it actually worked to define and point to something. It then just be came bastardize by the right and anything left. They just call regressive. That's it so so yeah they there their winning on all fronts on that, unfortunately, here softly, we can when it. But I appreciate you, take my colleague David. You have read the thank you. Thank you for calling in great, very important issue, no question about that.

Let's go next to Donnie from. Is it pronounced valley of Azalea? How do you pronounce it lies, Vice, salient, ok, good, where, whereas there being from California turn County about forty five minutes south of France. Now, a beautiful area so yeah, in trying to get a hold of you, let you know about, I suspect and pressure, because he was the seventeen letter of the alphabet and I know herbs, about Trump using seventeen flags are sending my bad, but I really that's why he was always saying the nineteen seventeen and gonna send her shot out to queue supporters that its vast native. Let me see if I understand this one so who is the seventeenth letter of the alphabet? Is that true, I'm taking your word, for that? I mean

we looked at it was our document areas that I had seen. Em is the third amendment. Thirteen, so am, I know peak you would make it the seventeenth right. Ok, Q is the seventeenth letter of the alphabet. I guess I did Trump regularly have seventeen american flags on the standard, or that was that, like I want either I heard what'll it might have been only ones. I learned that he did that once, but I believe that's why he kept referring to the eighteen eighteen pandemic is an aging sending them that's fascinating. I merely shot our produce, abhors its probably not the case. He's probably just an idiot and he once said nineteen seventeen and then he kept saying it because he can admit, but that fascinating that doubts that gets a signal to Cuba, Q, people, that's funny you gonna going in and out their dire how about environmental? Let you go very, very funny, instinct and and suggestion the connection

left a little bit as something to be desired. Their lot- school next to harbour from Mars, say France, Harper you're on their boy. Harper your connections, atrocious own Harper, Harper, already left Harper Cell self selected out either panicked or realized, or got disconnected Let's try another international call, let's go to Siad from Bangladesh, sire you're on their fellow, thank you, you know actually electing me when you know like trying to get Your call fond of you I'd, say weekly, guess she, my pleasure, saw again. Ah, ah, but the thing and ask you it's not really like a sort of you know, european. he and I would really like to you know, like God in all No, you fill out. They saw him out for thought.

and you can you like completely as I am not from America right, but I get in knowledge in a lot of economic because of a lot of international law issues and stop. We end up in like listening door, you know american politics and in all like- physical international involvement and basically saw these economic enemy again in all the other stuff. When I had in a much more or less time to actually you know, look through all the stuff. I have noticed something you know like very anxious, raising, let's say in America right now saw him out on this one. Finally, I can see that in almost all the people, who are less say their right wingers in order to reach a sudden whatnot and they are basically you know like train. dog in Alek. Ah they have their own set of ideologies. Lessened left, have their onset of ideologies, and, right now

looks to the muslim populations in the west. They are kind oftener link The scenario where these sort of, like the adding in some kind of political homelessness, that is something that I am going to say, So let's say you know, like are somewhat It is in all our practising Muslim, let's say are you and storing? Ah ah, leave following a lake, regional, stop and religious or worshipping in other stuff, like that, and basically a person like that ignore often diamond you know doesn't get along? We ignore, let's say you know insane liquid always ready, I got left right and then you have and on the other side, the right wingers. What actually you know like? Did they claim to be reviewed? As you know, the adding more back dozens of mostly Christianity and didn't they have problems within all Muslims right eye. in this you know, sir, are you aware that usually Muslims feeling like well

political homelessness and make any kind of I'd, say: you're, like the right when people I'd say that in all their physically themselves in their food. You know in the area are doing all this in a league. Let's say something: Andy Muslim stuff here and you know it Then there are wondering why every Lucy I do you think I think it's a very astute point. So if you consider the religious muslim community, you have folks who, culturally are really more in line with the religious christian community? Often in terms of the room all they want to see religion play in civil government in terms of cultural norms in terms of social norms, but reply working in the United States. They are like that only with regard to Christianity and sometimes they'll pretend with Judaism as well. Although really there, there often anti semitic but there's a

nor can I know so that's running Muslims would would find a cultural social home, but the Republicans not want them and then on the left, those very same religious Muslims, would offer say. Oh these folks want secularism. that's not what I want either and it leaves these folks sort of out out in in a no man's land. I think its a bit is very astute analysis and I think you're completely right side, thing is going, don't like lyric, explain a scenario like I'm gonna say it. I have so many people holding I'm gonna. Let you go now because we did we ve done. I think we're gonna go to enable call back. Ok, but I love the point. You made me, ok Very good are excited from Bangladesh. Extraordinarily good point: let's take a quick break if your whole and don't hang up, because I'm going right back to the phones in a moment, one of our sponsors

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do specific stories that they ran really hard on, one of which being allegations of perjury. You can simply felt she that the UNICEF wrote about the other of which being an excuse me the current stories about how to buy among more beer, common sense, leftwing channels, I would go as far as to say, seems like, like this oh he's been ignored. I would just like to hear your thoughts on this. Please, sir. Yes, so I'll go backwards, I mean with the Hunter Biden stuff. I just don't really get what the story would be fine me so when I see the hat you know I follow the right wing headlines and I see that I think it was last week, maybe five days ago, a bunch of articles popped up about, Hunt widens emails again and pictures or whatever I just don't get, what the story is for me, I mean he's a guy who has struggled in his life he

not only not the president, but unlike with Trump, because Biden doesn't you know have, is his kids working Forum, hunters not involved in government. So I just don't really know The story is other than just that. He is lacking his Biden. Unease Joe Biden Sunset. That's why I've I've not covered that one does. Does that mean? I think people are complaining about them? The nepotism, the fact that he was able to get a certain jobs are certain things, his dad being the vice president, and it would seem an email that had been release that it at that time, being robber, aided now, of course, on the simpleton from Texas Autonomy to get smarter people that talk about these things for me to understand, but I'm having our time see both sides connect on as it seems that want to say, look he's a drug addict, fluffy more of the story and others. I say

That's not even the story. The story is actually all of these other things that he was able to do because his dad was vice. President yeah, I mean, I think what makes this tough is. There's an attempt being made to say that it's just like you, God, Don Junior Eric and cushioned or in terms of getting stuff, because his dad was vice president It seems to me not even remotely equivalent. I mean Trump had his kids working for him either. go with sitting in four tromp once when they were in was it does Japan or not or even Helsinki, at remember, when her sad and for the Secretary of State like, I think that to some degree, if you're the vice president's kid there are going to be opportunities for you to do things that will be given to you and then there is the question as to whether you do thing inappropriate or not, and we can sort of explore that

Just seems to be on a different playing field than what trumpet doing with his kids in the very people obsessed with Hunter said, thing and don't even care about what was going on with Kirshner in Amerika and dodging. So it seems a little bit hypocritical to me. I would say I can agree with that sentiment. What about the issues around out here in the allegations of urgent? Yet I looked at that and just it didn't seem to me that the credit that there was credibility to perjury allegation, I have you know that we worked on in Ghana, functionary search. You think that that wasn't semantics the tax literally the case that but there was no aware and funding in any if any stress of Ghana Functional Research, I believe You know. How can I answered this and in the most sort of like a relevant way? I am we with you that there is the risk semantic component to this.

in terms of how does an institution define gain a function, research and how're Republicans defining it in this war there waging against, and then he found she so to some sense. In some sense it is actually the semantics are sort of like what's relevant here. Let me put it a day, way I have seen no evidence to date that Anthony found she was four malicious reasons: Huh reading the nature of what the? U S was funding, regardless the name you assigned to it and I'm willing to have my mind, changed about that. If someone can show me no found, she was deliberately obvious skating He knows he was obvious skating and spirit,

of what he was saying. It not semantically, but the spirit of what he was saying was wrong. I have not seen evidence of that to date, the very eloquently- and I very much appreciate your point of view and thank you for taking up my pleasure Alexander, the Texan. I might then call it a perfect phone call, quite frankly, very glad to any ideas on that front: let's go next to let's go to Gregg Peach Greg. peach from where, where you calling in from Gregg hello, I'm calling from Georgia, ok, very good- you're on the dragon? There's music? In the background, those wind chimes theres many different things happening. I want you to have a pleasant experience on this call with me thank you know it's. The wind chimes a relaxing go ahead,

I saw you. I have yes to help all at. I have. I have a question for you, so you still believe that there is a violation of people that war here at Joe Biden. Doesnt want him to give acid and we'll go and get that new, despite your saying. If, if they came to believe that Joe Biden like didn't want Republicans vaccinated, they would be like I'll show him. I'm going to go and get back to me if you're asking, if I think those people exist yeah, and you ve mentioned this before on year. Your show. So if I didn't, but I'm basically is asking if what you mentioned before your show is still believe you have yeah, I think so. I think if it and it's not it's more, it's a little more complicated than if Joe Biden said it. If there a narrative that Joe Biden was

Take away the vaccine from right, wingers after a certain date like I know it's crazy right. It never happened, but if a large portion of the right came to believe that Many of them would rush out to get vaccinating just despite Joe Biden for sure. So my follow up to that is. As somebody with a widely seen new showed. You have a moral imperative to make fake news to spread that narrative to save lives. It's a beautiful question. I I think that it would be wrong for me to unilaterally starts spreading that, and I can't actually articulate why. But one of the things that I try to do on this show is never lie to my audience about my beliefs, and so it fundamentally would go against my approach to say something on the air that I dont believe to be true. Specifically,

trick people into doing something and you're you're right that I might be doing it with the intention of saving lives by getting people vaccinated, but it's one of those principles that I just can't really get. For the harm been say, I'm in a lie, I meant to say things on the show I know to be Alai. Grant us my question. Thank you are right: Gregg, PETE. Now, if people disagree with me, If people think now in that situation, I should be making an exception should be lying to my audience because of the objective that a means to an end. Let me know, I think that that would be certainly interesting for sure, let's go to John from. Is it less stir or lies stern. His last day for the first time on light, I suspect it say: that's all. I can't easy going wrong path. Family. I made my first product. Oliver grounding like a nice guy he's be nice. are you? How are you doing here? I guess

What's the american use vicariously for you, ass, not sources, this wall of balance at risk as a result- and I did as MR right now you can you believe you cutting out a little bit. Are you saying, did you say our things messed up here. Why am I guess, I'm more interested about how you doing with Argosy seems? Like I don't know, I don't mind Second, we deal with the crop is going on in Britain. Yes distressingly. No one mile, I see what you're saying wireless and red Eyed is hardly value, maintaining a healthier media, diet and balance, and so like, basically for three full days a week. I'm tuning out of the news altogether, and I'm just you know, I'm doing my biking, I'm doing my running, I'm reading Nina doing other stuff. I think it particularly when there is so much craziness, going on really important to get a break and that's Ike. guy would consider it a mental health break from the substance that I normally.

Consume for my job. That's my approach on ice I spent all my question was my musketeer getting gaze other things and things are ok. Unless you do, I mean, I love like here in a bed subdue Mass Yazzi stronger than what is it? What does it mean that you're in lockdown? Do you go to the grocery store? Now we do but like take the first, let us talk over now like it was basically like you go to the shop, when you come back and then just listen. Ok, I gotta go. I saw it actually does not answer. I will get it s, so I had to go I bet literally might for about a year, and maybe a bet you ve been living doors which is far and are now. Are you going to restaurants or pubs and sitting outside, for example? First, when were published last weekend. Ok, so you're no longer and longer. I guess that's what you're saying

that is like a semi lockdown. His wares like that, for example, at work. I software mass and obesity behind our mask aside in shops and ask if my choice I still ask got it, got it very good, John. I appreciate the call northmen you take a ride. We got a beautiful, a pleasant phone call from less stir. It looks like it would be like there, but it's not. I learned many years ago. A lot of people won't tell you that, but I will on this programme. I appreciate every who called then I'm sorry I was unable to get to every call, but we will take calls again. My friends, thank you. One of our sponsors is all form hands down. The easiest way to custom, build your own sofa. You choose the premium fabric, you want. You choose this for size shape collar. Even the color of the legs, you can

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into the mail bag with a couple bonus comments and facebook messages? This week we tried segment sort of when a few weeks ago and people loving it and the number of emails coming in has gone up dramatically. More people have a lot of things to say, but the reactionary people are really getting interested by the things that that people are writing. So, let's just go Right to remember, you can send me an email info: it David Pachmann, dot com. Please don't send twenty emails if you do they're gonna get auto deleted, so just be reasonable. Ok guys, if, if you're sending me twenty emails in a day or two probably not getting them, because you ve probably been blocked. My friends, ok first message is from Tom about the vague fears system that's the vaccine reporting system Tom has high David. I recently looked into the various website and was stunned defined that individuals are allowed to vary.

easily report, whatever they wanted any. Given time I downloaded the add up to keep up on mega trends and they all to be very aware of the acronym theirs but peers as though only the influences on the right. No, how unreliable the data actually is. They have begun and problem have in the past, used it to make wild claims. It's disgusting, Heartening? I look forward to hearing your take. Thank you top yeah. I've said this before you, report anything you want to their system and then that date is used by right wing. is to say, look at all these reports, which never mentioning you can report anything now. Last I mentioned to someone wrote to me, and they said David, Sir. You know it's a crime to falsely report, ok, that but that's fine it or are we hearing about anybody getting in trouble for false reports? There is every indication there are endless false reports. It should be mentioned very, very important Kevin from Toronto wrote to me and what this is

about our story about Amazon now pushing for cannabis legalization. We said: what's the what's the game here, and says: hey David. The thing I thought of immediately just hearing the headline that Amazon is pushing for cannabis legalization. Is that Amazon? could make a lot of money selling and distributing at cannabis is lightweight. There easy to ship and many retailers and producers would surely use Amazon store if it was allowed. Especial the rapid shipping options would be very desirable for cannabis, customers, One hundred percent, I think You know, Amazon was very clear about a lot of this has to do with just smoothing out the hiring by eliminating cannabis, is an obstacle which may be makes sense, but at the same time they could just say I don't care about cannabis, use regardless of its legality. There may an e commerce opportunity there. that Amazon is is interested in many people writing and with that exact same point of view,

Helen wrote in and says just a thought when you talk about Voters and stance on vaccines, please mention whether they themselves are vaccinated. I think that when we know that's a great idea, I don't I'm not Sure if we know the vaccination status of all fifty governors, but if we who story about such governor just came out against vaccine mandates. I think it's perfectly region able to add by the way this governor is vaccinated or this governor is on vaccinated. If we know it very good idea, bread, Road in this is another one of those where I start wondering. Am I just terrible at community, information to my audience, or people really misunderstanding last We did a segment about. The lie that thousands of people are dying from the vaccine.

The vaccine is causing death. Brent wrote to me saying: David vaccinated people are dying from covert Look at the email David! You do a disservice when you say there are no deaths among vaccinated people granted! a rare, I know too accident persons who have died. There are report from the. U S in UK, of fully vaccinate people dying fully vaccinated people our dying with variants beyond Delta, the anti backs well are crazy, but use just as delusional when you suggest there are no vaccinated debts again. I never said that. I said that there is no evidence, the vat, Scenes are the cause of death. Of course we know of breakthrough infections and, although it's a very small percentage of what we might call a breakthrough death but We try to react to what I am actually saying rat,

then what maybe you hope. I'm saying or whatever the case may be, I know were denied vaccinated people died. What I said is the idea that Thousands, tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of people are dying from the vaccine, is not backed up by any facts by any evidence that we are actually seeing Andrew Road in Andrew says just you wait. Oh I can't tell if this is a joke age. This is not some one that has written to us before. I can't tell if this is satire. Andrew wrote just you wait, Sir You guys are having a great time, marking Donald Trump, but You wait until he unveils Obama gate. Then you be laughing out of the other side of your faces. It's the biggest political scandal, history of the. U S, perhaps the biggest and all of you, straight, no really you'll, see Andrew I This is satire. The of sirs as well.

was no really you'll see and extraneous exclamation, pointing including double exclamation points. I this is a satirist who is just kidding around and they are not really telling us to wait for Obama Gay. John from Jefferson City. Mazurka. Rodin ends is good day. Sir, just curious about whether statistics have been collected to determine the percentage of Democrat Verses Republican that have died from covered nineteen. This is a fantastic question why? I do not know if this is a fantastic question, because we ve been saying for a while, as blue states get more vaccinated and States lag behind, as Republicans remain one of the most anti vaccine groups in the country. At some point you would imagine the virus will kill more Republicans than like rats. I believe we are already at that point in time earlier this week.

on the two Tuesday show on the Tuesday show we looked at a chart that looked at per capita deaths over the last few weeks, compared to twenty twenty voting, and what we saw was that the heaviest Biden States places like Vermont Massachusetts, etc have the lowest per capita deathray. the biggest Trump States, Mississippi, Alabama, etc, have the highest per capita death rate over the last month. This leads me to believe we are already seeing askew covert killing more american Republicans than american Democrats. Is it enough to make a difference in elections? We don't know you could, he make or break in any particular race it's too early to say, and maybe not, but my guess would be when we see covered killing more people per capita in Alabama than Massachusetts

or in Mississippi than in Vermont. I would guess that the data would bear out. It's not just people in those states. During its overwhelmingly and disproportionately Republicans in those states dying, and if you have more Republicans in a certain state, you would and that its disproportionately Republicans over Democrats as well, but a very, very good question in it, it probably is increasingly already a republican virus? Here's a cup Bonus here is John Lemon from Youtube who says so I blame you, Mr Pachmann further deaths of fifty. in thousand Americans that have died from taking. The vaccine. Here is an example of a vaccine death or, as we may be, what we would call them you're, a sick deranged person who is making big money. off of big farm to say what you say, prove it. This has come up a dozen times

Why would anyone pay me to talk about a vaccine? Work were meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Why wouldn't it? Why would even if there was the volition to do that. Why would anyone give me money to talk about? I got back and it seems to be a good thing to do John lemon goes on to say. I bet. Also the deep state in China are paying you off. You were a disk. race to this country very Very sick. Individual varies, individual, not even worth refuting them on the merits. It's just you know you guys know, stuff is around that that is a the virus that is spreading John Smith. Wrote in in response. Are announcement of one billion Youtube views, John Smith, throw back one billion idiots, see the Durham report. Yeah looks like the Democrats were the ones spreading the truck. Russia, Bs Hilary herself new, can't wait for

or indictments. This is someone who still things Hilary is going to prison. This will be very big, but Trump. He was right with being spied on Russia, hoax election fraud. Next Syntax is tough. Here, John Smith goes on. How about you did you going? you doing any reporting on Trump and Russia collusion. I bet trumps law Fears are at work, getting ready to start liability lawsuits, He was slandered investigated how many times Schiff Cuomo. At CNN and CNN too this so wrong by the media. I hope he's compensated. That is really tough to get John finishing his email to me his love letter by saying One of these days, you will appreciate Trump, the President and what he did in four years is remarkable. Don't hold your breath?

John and then lastly, an extra special bonus in this week's mail bag. This coming in very early this morning, five twenty a m via Facebook. You are a worthless piece of S. Age T peace spelled like world peace. It's a whole like you. That are its by the way, the wrong it's that are destroying my country. Take your effing arse back to your own country,. I'm an american citizen or re educate your regurgitating garbage. This is really really weapon ice stuff and the prototypical example of your sit down with this person, I've ever say this guy moat, almost everyone who send stuff like this is: is male you're not gonna, sit

with this guy and a rational conversation and get him to say you know what right you're. I was wrong. You're right, I'm I'm glad that you explain things to me. The way they are just not happening, and so it gets us once again to the question of how do you d programme that? How do you do it don't have the answer, but we ve talked with a lot of people claimed to have some ideas. They say the The answer is long term of building relationships with these folks. I we have the. I don't have the stomach for it. I think the way, I would say- and I know many of you have folks like these in your family- I'm sorry to hear that. We ve got a great bonus show for you today, sign up at joint pachmann dot com, you'll, get instant access and you can email me and forward David Pachmann dot com. Keep it nice. Keep at nice. Give me something productive, we'll see you on the phone or otherwise.