The David dragged? Shout David Cameron died guarded. So the more we look at pulling the more. We might think that Joe Biden Uncommonly Harris have this election in the bag, but consider for a moment that, even if the poles are both perfectly accurate and don't change between now and election day, what about voter suppression, because the Supreme Court just showed us that at least three of the justices are more than willing to throw out absentee ballots. That is not priced into the polls in any way this

cream Court has reinstated South Carolina as witness signature requirement for absentee ballots. They did this earlier this week that alone is a decision that could decide whether Lindsey Graham is re elected as a republican incumbent in South Carolina or what their challenger date. Jamie Harrison from the Democratic Party removes Incumbent Lindsey, Graham, that is what the stakes are here, and it means that South Carolinians, including those infected with corona iris will once again need witnesses to sign their ballot envelope, so think that, through for a second have corona virus or you want avoid getting at you haven't and want to avoid spreading it are you shouldn't go out or you want to avoid get, it from some one else. You just want to be as safe as possible. You requested absentee ballot beautiful you get the absentee ballot perfect. You fill out the absentee ballot correctly lovely, but before he send it in

You need to find a witness to sign the envelope for you that says it's really. You voting it's really you sending this thing in its pointless, because that signature could of course be forged. It risks spreading the virus and it will almost certainly lead to the nullification of ballots, but that's not the worst of it. It's even worse, potentially because Justices Clarence, Thomas Samuel, Alito and NEO Gorse Ich would have been willing not just to say that these ballots going forward must have a witness signature, but tat Miss Alito endorse such actually were ready to say, this rule should applied retroactively, so I really need people to understand this Clarence. Samuel Alito anneal Gore such would be on board with saying ballots already received by South Carolina election officials before this decision was made about witness signatures, though

ballots should be thrown out. even though, at the time that folk set their ballots in this witness signature. Who was not yet the rule. It is outrageous and x, Dream and what it signals to me is that if indeed they get Amy kept Coney Barrett confirm to the Supreme Court and if indeed this- tire presidential election starts to extend into November and starts to involve courts there are already three Amy Coney Barrett be a fourth and then you, then it's just a question what will John Roberts do, what will others do they willing to actually interfere in ways that are material. These are not theoretical things. These are not things that might have an impact, but two or four years from now. This is right now and had they gotten rule pass the retroactive requirement for witness signatures that would have liked

Two, I don't even know how many ballots being thrown out that could have led to live see winning even if Jamie Harrison would otherwise have one. I mean we don't know, that's gonna be a tight race in its an uphill battle for Jamie Harrison. But the point here is the trumpet minister. Asian is going to use this to their advantage in any way that they can the Trump campaign Has an army of lawyers ready to do anything they can in any state they can do it to see they can get away with Biden. As a team of lawyers, but are they ready, as I said before it much more difficult to play defence, because you need to anticipate every strategy that Trump can use. Trump might have ten different strategies. Lawyers will use and binds. Lawyers might anticipate nine of them, and it could be that tenth one that actually gets you in the and so they really need to be prepared because Trump wants to win trump. At this point, can only win by preventing, people from voting by dissuade

seeing people from voting by having people's votes not counted, and Republicans have repeatedly said in public that this is the plan no one should be surprised now that they are actually making the plan a reality, and if it comes to just a couple of states which it might and this in court, invalidates hundreds of thousands of votes more than that will be a revolt. I actually think you know I I don't have I have what I gives a realistic assessment that most people can afford to miss the next day work and most people are not going to mass rally and go protest because they have people defeat money to Megan bills to pay, and I understand that, but I actually think that if it appears as though a supreme court with multiple justices on selected by

Donald Trump in starts, invalidating votes and potentially lips the election to Trump. I do believe there will be complete actual chaos in the streets. I believe we will see. Mass rally I do believe that, and I rarely above that mindset. Let me know what you think it's it's continued bad news after bad news for Donald Trump over the last few days a court ruled Wednesday that done, From can no longer block is tax returns from a subpoena. grand jury in New York and will have to turn them over. This is part of the the Geisha into Donald Trump Business Practices, and it's all falling apart for him. This was a three zero decision in the second. U S Circuit court of appeals. The decision is it Trump must turn over his tax returns great right. So now the prosecution gets. The tax returns right now,

yet Donald Trump lawyer, J Secular, you might remember him from the impeachment hearings says that they will now appeal to the Supreme Court. An agreement was reached where this decision from the lower court won't be enforced for almost a couple of weeks that Donald Trump can appeal to the Supreme Court so bottom line. These prosecutors are not going to have trumps taxes before the election. Even if these prosecutors get Donald Trump taxes that doesn't mean that we get them from them but something has changed. We ve already learned a ton about what is in Donald Trump taxes from that bombshell, New York Times report from. I think it was about ten days ago, although at this point it feels like six months ago, where we learned that Donald Trump paid no federal tax. and ten of the last fifteen years. We learn

that Donald Trump paid, only seven hundred and fifty dollars and federal taxes and twenty sixteen and only another, seven hundred and fifty dollars in twenty seventeen, we learned that Donald Trump has more than four hundred and Wendy million dollars in debt, so the real reason that this decision matters is that Trump is clearly coming unglued, and this won't help whether Trump has been exceeded. dancing steroids induced mania for the last few days from the decks him ass, his own prescription for his coded or it's the polls that triggering him or whatever? He has in unhinged, even by his standards- and we may see- I dont know what the next week will be. I dont know what this weekend will bring: bye, bye, bye, Tuesday, when we're back from the holiday Donna from may have already descended into a full blown public narcissistic rage. I was actually thinking the other day. Imagine If Donald Trump realized he could go I've on twitter video

and imagine he just did it and wet live and went completely crazy. It would truly be something else and what has been sort of like a simmer for a few days is quick, becoming a rolling boil, and it could be that way by election day of things keep goaded going this way. The Supreme Court appointment now appears as though it, be delayed. Don Junior reportedly thinks Donald Trump needs an intervention. I dont I believe that we reached the low point, the sort of full bottom or the full climax, really have Donald Trump Rage yet and as far as the taxes go the new year, times themselves might have more documents and may actually drop a bombshell in the next couple of weeks. They may find away remember that the New York Times decided they weren't going to publish the actual tax documents because they believed that the copies they have? Probably because of some mark

or stamps are what not that around them would expose who their sources on trumps tax documents its conceivable that the source will say out me or that the New York Times will find a way to release the documents without adding that the source so we may even see the actual tax documents before this is all said and done after this decision was made by the court, Donald Trump quickly, nuclear within minutes of the decision. He went to Twitter to deliver another all capital letters rat where he said wow now do some about this: the biggest of all poles, legal scandals in history by Obama and crooked Hilary led this treasonous plot. By shouldn't be allowed to run, got caught now in all seriousness. As far as the appeal to the Supreme Court on this decision, should the Supreme Court even hear this case. Of course it's the president and, of course, Donald Trump,

every right to appeal each decision against him on different grounds. If that's what he wants to do, but at some point does it become frivolous. Different legal experts have different perspectives on that, but I suppose at some point we will see so the plan of work today and for next week, we are going to hear from some of you. We are going to talk later on in the programme about whether trumps corona virus helps or hurts him How long I believe it will take the final results of the twenty twenty election to be given to us. We will talk about the recent trend with older voters, moving towards Joe Biden and away from Donald Trump Monday? We are off call at Columbus state call it indigenous peoples day. We tended federal holidays off the staff really needs it. We will be off on Monday and then back Tuesday through election day, and it is going to be.

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two zero and oh double you, you will save sixty six percent. Let's pick up on some, I guess calling them calls. Even though this week there from the David Pachmann show discord, let's see who wants to check in today, let's go to Chris from Texas Chris from Texas. You were on what is on your mind today. My friend hey David. Can you hear me? I can hear you perfectly all right. I told you about a couple of months ago and I wanted to say thank you for your, like keeping me how to think more critically, like I remember thing how I could find without reliable when you are looking at the poles from five thirty eight looks like it's pretty much, over fur trumped up. At this point of view, I would have liked to have too little about have to die before from to win right now well listen. I hope that you are right, but all we need to do is just vote right. We ultimately have no control over anything other than

whether we vote so I oh, I love the optimism. The poles look ugly right now, but we just dont know in the twenty five days that are left. We just don't know. So I share your cautious optimism. Let's focus on the cautious let's make sure we vote yeah. I understand I'm gonna put under vote next week to state as well beautiful, also So also wondering to now like with two of the sense that it members testing past, differ krona Virus- three in fact, o three, since three now yellow through its MIKE Lee, Tom tell us and RON Johnson yeah, so you think it's possible that any common colleagues for her report the name and pay me Coney, Berets Narbonnais shall be the late now. I do think that there is a good chance that it doesn't. Then before election day, but if Republicans r d and I don't see any way that it will

happen during the period between the election and the inauguration? My only hope is the corona virus positives prevent the vote from happening four November. Third, then Joe Biden wins and Democrats take this on it, and the Martha Mc Sally Seed is immediately seated because remember that a special election so more, if Mart Kelly Winds, he might be seated right away. I am hoping that there would be such outrage if Republican still try to should, through I'm talking outrage to the point of mass rallies, and I dont know if that will happen. That way the dream scenario that Republicans abandon the nomination? It's very optimistic, it's very uphill, but I think it's the only chance we ve got also I'm kind of worried about. packing the courts as well. I thought I know people say that they want to pack the court's just because they want to at least be able to get progressive reforms.

Yeah, but I'm worried that it can be used against that in the future. For the public and the pact, the court as well. It certainly could but here's the here's. What I would say you, here's what I would say that Chris Joe Biden has has not answered whether he would he wouldn't be in favour of that, and I think he's been smart not to answer for because it would do whatever he answers will become the focus, and it's not really what this is about. If you look back at Joe Biden, story. My reading of it is that he's unlikely to pack the court. So I act if you're concerned about that. I dont actually think Biden will do it. Ok. My last question is What do you think we should do what if Joe Biden becomes presidential, we try to push for more left wing policies, or should we just try to undo all of the damage? Is done? First well both its not one or the other. I mean a lot over. The damage trump has done can be under

Latvia, executive order that give orders and, at the same time particularly of Democrats take the Senate. Then you ve got big legislative accomplishments that we can start working on. So you gotta do both yet or I thank you for the time David Chris. I appreciate it so much Chris from Texas Great to hear from crisper so, let's try once more, I'm I'm in a given one other opportunity. Diego from Mexico, is back. I dont know happened the first time the Asia. Are you with us. Yes, can you hear me they might? I can hear you? Yes, I think you, I thought my he's, didn't work. It works beautifully. I welcome the very bad mojo discord. My question is about this time: the stock market and the recent bunch guess news that jump is gonna hearts. How did all negotiations like, I can't them? What's the political players year like

and I dont way to really one. No, I think I think he's I think he's on. I think he's on Roy rage from the deck Samantha zone. It makes no sense, and you know the thing was when, when this all happened on Tuesday, first Trump tweets, no second stimulus and the stock market crashes, then the stock market closes and at night Donald Trump. its. If they get me a bill to sign, to send twelve hundred dollar checks to people all sign it and will send the checks, and then Wednesday, the stock market goes up for four hundred points. Intraday, I don't know that Donald Trump, you know in general. I question how stable Donald Trump is mentally right now he seems Particularly unstable- and it may be because of the medications he's on, but you are completely right. Sending checks to people is. That is the hail Mary, it's the last chance Trump has to try to win some votes back. Why would he abandoned it. It makes no sense exactly. Right

right, leaving ball, Rasmussen has him down those Emily. Twelve points, yeah and the only explanation- and I propose that his taking the country, a stage in saying if I win you can't even get the stimulus arise because of the land that bear so even then you will have to wait. The only way you can get a relief soon is, if you vote for me, but I don't know well that crazy thing about this? Is that, although its true that, if Biden wins Trump, probably won't, do any stimulus? Third during the lame duck, just despite people in the long run one bite in it? likely to in total, do something better for the average person than whatever trump is dangling now. So it's not it's it's a threat and, of course, people will have to figure out what to do for the next four months, but in the longer term, if Biden does when people will be much better off exactly

I can even I can't even see it from from side, but it makes no sense yeah yeah. Well, thank you for taking my going salary is a magical, all right were very much cellulose, and I appreciate the call hoped to speak to you soon. That's Diego from Mexico. Let's go next to boost smile, from Karachi goose manure on whose man. Whose money from Karachi I heard background noise. What's going on? Yes, you wrote it Good are you I mean I can hear you. or May I call you later a few months ago, they're gone from Pakistan. I do remember, as

is my voice by denying it was last time. You know voices sounding ok, yeah, oh oh, get Ok, I wondered what Europe was soon basically I'm still all right, you're still on I basically only to ask you a question about no man, american politics, so you you ve, got to many ports do you, love is leaders like Fidel Castro people, will show is all those guys lightly or do your tea. In your opinion, were there any other leg us a centre left to do or further lifelike

It is like, for example, Lula was English guy boy like duty, they were in a name by any better, let me like that This will mean a bad guy or Shelly. I don't remember if you think they were like any better leader, absolutely apps So, while there are certainly overlaps between some unlike Hugo Chavez and Cassim LUCA, and why there is It is really night and day in total and Jose Mohican, someone that I, look. What would would be is much closer to my politics and it doesn't mean I would agree with him on everything, but no question about, and you know when people say David, you're you're, some you're, really a right winger, you know o any what whatever I'm, no,

I'm an anti authoritarian and while Jose Mohican might have some particular views that I don't agree with him was not an authoritarian. The way Hugo Chavez was, and so for sure, for sure I consider them different categories altogether. Ok, can I ask you another question shore up there, one one? Second, I thought I forgot None will listen. I've got a lot of people waiting so call back again. We if you forgot the question, let's let's move on, because there are lots of people who do who do want to chat today, I'm going to go next to James from New York, James from New York. You were on with me. What's what's going on in New York these days. James from New York, IRAN, that's! U I you can hear me

yes, I David high. My name is James, I'm actually in your doctor, who just I graduated out of New York City great. I've got a question for you: I'm wondering sort of all these for an issues? portion rights, gay rights, build the wall any sort of issue like this. Almost look we're sort of missing the forest for the trees in the idea that, like unless We get money out of politics register everybody in the country to vote a sort of seems like this systems. Gonna Continue to stay broken there is no way that we can fix it unless we fix these sort of like the elect. College money in politics. Absolutely correct, yes, I said for a while that, whatever you care about whether its abortion education

wait whatever your issue is. Gay rights tax rates are gonna whatever the case. Maybe there's a package of mega issues that need to be dealt with It's a more systemic issue that includes money in politics and come combined with money in politics. It's the way media operates, which is very much influenced by money in politics we the deal with how elections are done so we're talking about. You know electoral colleges problem. Fifty five percent voter turn in presidential elections is a problem. That's a really big! First past the post is a problem got to deal with that and the number three key I'm at climate, actually is a major issue. A lot of people don't consider, but if you're these underwater or you're in the hospital because of the pollution in your city. It's hard to be an activist when that is. Is this the situation in terms of climate and honestly, even though health care is a political issue, if you don't have

health care and you're sick is also going to be hard to be an activist, so those are kind of like the format. It issues that if we really want to fix things, you have to deal with your spot on. yeah, it's sort of seems like it's a beautiful system that is pure, then created to sort of base, They distract the everyday voter from these generalised problems and just get them focused on oh well, everyone else's lazy, or you know you need to just man up and get over your issues and that nobody, it's almost like the rats fighting over the scraps, while the one percent just convince basely convince- conservatives vote for rich people, keeping, one year a lot of times, what a somewhat I recommend to people is when you are at your embroiled in a pull your thinking about a political issue or your embroiled in a political debate. Ask yourself whether you're even a debating the right question so, for example, the debate over to what degree can people pull themselves up by their bootstraps

so ridiculous debate. We know the answers. We have data on class mobility. We have on the impact of not have you don't halving hunger or of not have health care and the effect that this has on class mobility. It's it's the wrong debate and it might be fun, for you know, people who go and speak. It call judges and argue with college kids or whatever the case may be, but unless we know that these met issues are an impediment to solving any of these problems when it comes right down to it. So I guess my question is: how do we solve this? Like really like? How do we even six? This country I mean, as starting point. If we don't actually get competent leadership, controlling the White House, the House and the Senate, and most of the governors mentions for at least for years, and make some progress, it's going to be very difficult and that's again the system is meant to perpetuate itself. It's almost

it's almost like natural selection. In a sense, the system survives because its most likely to perpetuate itself and it perpetuates itself because it survives it's a circle yeah. yeah. I could not agree more. I have all these conversations with different people of different sort of socioeconomic racial. Grounds just seems like a motion takes over and no real rational discussions take place. It's like your political party. Is your team right or not surely is this: sitting you and I just I like honest to God, I'm really in fear on November, happens. Election selection into crumbs, gonna, declare, victory and, what is in our fifty million people or whatever who voted for them. What are you doing? the president says I've won and if they try and take it from me, you need to take to the streets. That's that that that's my fear, exact. we listen before I let you go as any our doctor. What is going on in yours at this point? What are you saying?

so is it sorted depends on where you are, but at least in the around the New York City area. Cases are starting to speak again. Yeah seems like I dont want to set up You know single out a single group, but it seems like its religious gatherings and its nursing homes and they're just sort of lead axing standards The numbers are especially around the city, their starting their wives, we are either everybody who got super sick already got sick and we're gonna be ok orange Do the same thing we did back in March and April and I don't know how health care workers The general populous I dont know how we get through it. If we do the same thing that happened back in March, so you tell someone hey, you have corona virus. Are our people surprised in the sense that they're not connecting their actions to getting the virus. Well yeah?

sort of its also difficult just explaining the people in general that because the prevalence of this virus is so low, that a negative test doesn't mean anything. You could have five negative tests than you could still have the virus that based on my legs statistics with the prevalence being so low, just hard, because it's also matters how you do the test and allotted lot People don't want to shove. That's loud super deep up the nose negative test, but maybe it's really not negative, ah yeah. It and you know we still have a lot of the test and a lot of these hospitals are taken six hours to come back right. You got In the year for six hours is I mean it's almost as if everything we went through in March change, nothing about how our handling it re from your ship in the hospitals to the state wide to the national level. It's real

these scary. To be honest with you last thing I didn't, I gotta run are you're in the e r you're not actually doing any corona virus treatment right like the any people are getting anything from render severe to deck Samantha Zone or anything like that, once they have been admitted So usually what happens if we suspect- and they look bad also a couple of these treatments, but if Looking. Ok, you just swab, make sure there's no other pneumonia or other sort of infection, and then you just send them home with quarantine precaution. All I say yeah but it's sort of hard to say. I know the steroids- help it's usually only sicker people, but the one that sort of look sick were throwing the man truck item, because we really don't know what this virus does gap. Tat all right James from New york- I appreciate you are talking to us today- is a pleasure.

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Welcome back to the David Pachmann shock, alright meant people who want to get on with me today. I want to hear from some of them. Let's go first here to March. From Miami Florida marked a what is on your mind today, hello, hello. Yes, I kind of that's all I'm only remaining floored, almost so you're, cutting in and out all right, so so we Europe, I can barely hear you. I heard you live in Miami and then you immediately cut out somewhat. My family's cuban American and they keep using the argument that violence is a communist and he's a socialist I just want to know what can I say to them or if you have a good article, you can recommend just so I can like he'd, but the argument list

I have not seen anybody seriously be able to answer the question which Biden Policy is a socialist policy, so I'd be curious. If you were to say: ok, let's, let's, they actually examine that. What Biden policy is a socialist Bessie. Usually that falls apart, and then they move on to a different argument which may be would be easier to deal with. yeah because I told them like you note this night. Second, if you like, I don't know it's gonna, be the cuban we're going to be. You know struggling for food or, secondly, the right down like listen, ladylike, aided him was ITALY Cuba when Barack Obama was president for eight years, because Joe Biden was the vice president. If it wasn't Cuba during those eight years. Why would it be like that under Joe Biden. and then they bring up in all the hopes you been missile crisis and Kennedy, and it just what did I dont know what does not abide in what you know? thinking a lot of these ill here, what you're getting too Marta

Is that in a lot of these situations, its really about you explaining the truth, it's about just coming up with something: say so. They can perpetuate their own misunderstandings and you might demi it could go that way, it could go, binds a socialist and you say well what one socialist policy they say? Well, it just it's gonna be like Cuba. Then you would say well. Was it like Cuba Obama was president and then they would say yeah, but look at what Kennedy did during the cuban missile crisis now we're fifty years ago right it's dead, don't really want to know anything, and sometimes you have to just acknowledge that yet basically the exact argument for months and months and months, I dont envy you, Marta and you know people who are calling- and in may not know the American hispanic community is a very left wing community in total, but this the most conservative sub SEC,

and of Latin Americans is Cuban Americans, and it is usually this reflexive anti Castro thing that the ones who came to the? U S were against the Castro regime. They associate the Castro regime Democrats, why I dont Know- and you end up in situation- like market situation Inga. Thank you very much. A great to hear from you, Marta appreciate the appreciate the call: let's go next, it's too there's just so Many people who want to get on here it's very, very interesting, wide we go to, let's go to Adam, do by Adam from Dubai. What's going on here? What's good David, I dont rigour I found a show for awhile what Sir like in Dubai. Right now,. Already hard, getting lover but dealing with or covert thing there,

I will do for you didn't ya, like of a Watermark Americans, no like how ouch. Election impacts are the world, but but we tend to keep up with it, allowed like I'm wondering like give in to me. It seems like a clear choice between by in Trump. You're. So like a lot of both sides. Isn't that I still see ya, specially, like progressive circles, I'm sure What what rationale behind that is theirs it there bunch everything's going on it. It there's not one answer, so you certainly have people who so in terms of and besides the typical undecided is centre right. Relish fifthly, young and not paying attention very closely. So most if the undecided, their people that could go either way are not people that are on the left. That's important to understand among

those who were on the left and are unsure. You have a contingent that just doesn't like Joe Biden that that would be just a very specific thing. Like ok, besides, I dont like Biden, so I'm not going to vote for Biden. You have the both sides is to say. If it's not a quote, true progressive, I dont care whether its trump and we saw in twenty sixteen, how that failed. Us Trump now has had two and potential potentially will get a third Supreme Court pixel. You have that contingent. You have people who, would be open to vote for open to voting, Joe Biden, but want to feel as the as though Joe Biden came and got their vote and earned their vote. And for me you know, I dont need that. I just look at binds policy and I see oh binds policies better a vote for Biden it and serve that simple. So you ve got a lot of different things on the going on at once, but most people are dying, Oh for Biden, that's the reality. Some of these Anti Biden left wing enclaves

very loud online, but most people realize what's going on her, I mean I'm not concern about individual right, a postal order. but like seeing online commentators, Remo name on the left off. Their guns on us and when you say a link, their guns. What are their guns just that binds bad and you shouldn't both form. Like so saying that no one wants to debate in saying that a like you know, american people still like will lose no matter who wins trying to muddy the waters and a clear choice, yeah and all sounds irresponsible to me, because if there is a better choice, you go with the better choice. You know it sort of like if you really believe that we're talking about too bad choices, isn't there a moral responsibility to act in the way that that, while pushes the the less bad choice they give, you say to me:

would you rather have a sinus infection or Cove and maybe the cove, it gets really serious. I'm not looking for either, but given the choice, I would say: gimme the sinus infection. You know her and and also why I do understand the are like Phillip. We have the luxury of play, those games of love one bite by Tana. To me. I want him to such and such right, given how terrible the situation only as I can we agree with you, I think they ve been aright Adam from do by great to hear from you. They're very is Adam from do by let's go next to Hayden, from Morgantown West Virginia Hayden from Morgantown West Virginia you're on what is on your mind, not much. I just just want to ask you some questions about Belarus is sure, yes

currently like out of the United States. Like you just like inoperative, you state weren't, like what down Valerie right now. Are you most interested in really it for me, it's the ones that could flicked the Senate to them. Right. So you know I mean certainly as a starting point. I'm looking at Susan Collins in Maine who at whose facing Sarah a challenge from Sarah Gideon, I'm looking at mark exactly in Arizona whose facing a challenge from art Kelly. The Tom tell us Cal Cunningham race in North Carolina, Steve Bullock. In Montana, the Johnny Best in Iowa is interesting. Jamie Harrison, verses, Linsey Gram, Corey gardener looks like he's going to lose in Colorado that that's where my focuses yeah Currently these in my state were we have between showing more capital and polishing Swearingin. It feel pretty interesting since I like in this state like wouldn't like we have a history. Progressive politics, although, like it's been a while since, like an actual like progressive position as me,. This far since, like we like to mention as our own current VP and it's very easy

seemed to see how this happened? Sir yeah, I'm? just a demi. Now I am interested to see how that how that goes. I think the simple Nations of for the balance of power are less significant, but an interesting, the less. he always had a pretty progressive person when four are in our own governor primary, but he made it. very close under the poles came down to is like about it to propose a guy to present differences requests. Hidden, What's it like living in West Virginia, I never had the pleasure of visiting the state and the unity here a lot of different things it. What what what's? The experience like idea the states for its actually pretty interesting, since people usually assume it's just like backwards. Hillbilly areas right, although like in which, in all fairness alive, the state is like that, although there are two main cities like Morton Town, where I live it's like a college downside, pretty vibrant and there's also Charleston, which is a very nice city, sadly

our population numbers are going down pretty significantly throughout. Most of the state, I believe were like the fastest shaking states, although we do have a few towns which our group, which is not so in Morgantown, for example, would you be able to go to a r r there, like pretentious third wave, coffee shops and stuff? I are some interesting cotton. Just I don't wanna like there's action, one like Rosa, because military cafe like there by the water insight since their college students, it's like ITALY bit more like a younger audience for those bright areas. but like in the Charleston also eyes, unlike more like semi, like history, like shops and stuff, although overall is like, like the population, is generally older instead covered younger people too? good other areas are right sounds like you're doing, ok there than yet are right here: appreciate hearing from you hope to hear from you again, yes You are right. There is Hayden from West Virginia and then let's go to widen.

we go. Oh, I don't know, I mean there's just so many so many different people who want to get on here. Why don't? try, let's try Stephen from Pretoria, Stephen from Pretoria. What's on your mind,. Stephen from Pretoria. You are on. Oh hi did in fact very good. How are you I can't complain. I have a few questions. My first question is likeable: why would jump make these very, very bad decisions regarding the handling of his own house about what he wanted Europe, in my opinion, is that it was that there was a bigger picture effort, probably to try to hide the fact that he had corona virus at all, and that was the initial and when he got to sick for that they were already

they had fallen behind on the management of it, and then it just lead to bad decision after bad decision once he was in the hospital he could Vanilla, gonNa Roy Rage due to the decks him ass, the zone, precipitating even worse decisions that I think it some combination of that I think I think this is turning out to bad for him. It would have turned out better for him if he was in the hospital, because I think he would have got a little bit more sympathy, but it's possible it's already. It's already going bad, so she's, trying to like manage dumpster fire second question: how do you think America will handle the new and delicacy if liability, if Biden becomes president, because I think it's it's it becoming a problem like all over the world, especially where here in South Africa, handle them in what I learned, not sure I you mean handled a new evangelicals in what sense no, not new, like NEO, liberal, NEO, o o,

I mean listen, I think that we ve seen this really weird thing under tromp, where even articles who normally would never even consider voting for someone like Trump. If you were a Democrat voted for him, because he wasn't Hilary and then will see this November. What they do in terms of Biden versus trumpet, I think overwhelmingly, they will still support Trump. I think Biden wins there won't be much to do with the NEO evangelicals, because they'll go back at supporting antiabortion, anti gay sort of more traditional religious conservatism and end and that will be that I dont predict anything different will happen figure. Thank you for having me it's like it's free I was very anxious and very nervous, but thank you very much Stephen. You great. I appreciate you being on that's going to do it for today. I hope to hear from more people next week. Thank you

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this week. Doctors have been saying is doing great by the time you watch this or listen to this clip he may be doing poorly. It's just also dishonest and so erratic that we don't know, but if Trump gets very sick and but a ventilator MIKE pants becomes acting. President does MIKE Pence become the top of the. They, who are people really voting for very impossible to predict how it would change the dynamic of the race a, but my guess would be that might almost help the republican ticket in that the idea of a steady you're. Person coming in pens might be more appealing to some Republicans than real Acting Donald Trump, but its very unpredictable if Trump were die before the election, we are in land dish marginal territory and

Who knows what would happen, but assuming that Donald Trump remains alive and it does not become incapacitated due to a resurgence of the virus. My instinct is that anybody who would vote based on whether their candidate gets the virus. Is already voting for Donald Trump. By what I mean by that is anybody who would say well, if you get the vice, is your weak. Those people are already voting for Donald Trump they're going to continue voting for Donald Trump. If you vote based on policy, and you are concerned about the handling of corona virus you're, almost certainly already voting for Joe Biden. The only way in which trumps corona virus case would effect vote others in my mind, would be that Trump guy the virus, in addition to press Christy makin any time campaign manager HO pick on and on and on it is part of the

story not of individual contagion, but of the mishandling of corona virus more broadly by this administration that they ve been so careless and reckless that almost no prominent Democrats have become infected. All of these prominent report guns, including people around Trump the needle it's the straw that breaks the camel's back so to speak, in terms of the mishandling of the virus, those are people who might, inclined to vote for bide nor at least not for Trump as a result, but it sort of like an indirect effect of trump getting the virus overall, it seems bad for Trump, although again it's all so erratic it seems as though Donald Trump plans to be at the second debate, It seems as though Donald Trump is relatively recovering, although much of it may be driven by steroids that that he's on which can create been a feeling

of euphoria or or a feeling great. It appears as though the debate, the Post debate post, die No such poles, we are getting, are really really bad for Donald Trump and bottom line assessment. Is it's not good for tromp? It may not be that bad, but the corona virus episode is not good for trump. Next question today is a David Trimble, talking about not knowing the results of this election for days weeks or months. Wendy you think we will know who won the twenty twenty election? So about three weeks ago. I would have said to you it could be seven days after November third till, like by November tenth, we will know the results with every passing day. I actually think we will probably know the results not much, aid or the November. Fourth, I think the day after the election, I dont believe she's, going to be close enough. That we will need a full week to know

the results now, if in whether Donald Trump concedes, if he loses that's a very different question, but I am increasingly bill when you look at There are basically, the issue is absent. He ballots in a normal election, according to the Brookings Institute about thirty percent of the ballots that are cast would be expected to be male than it is now spected to be more than half, and there are basically three sinner I was for when states can count absentee ballots. States can just start counting as, as they come in before election day, meaning there already counting mail and ballots in some states, there are states where the absentee ballots can start to be counted at the in the morning before the Poles close, even if they been mailed in so November. Third, in the morning, people start voting in person and they start opening and counting absentee vows, and then the third scenario

is only when the Poles clothes can. You start counting absentee ballots. The vast majority of staff It's that matter are not in that last category, and I it escapes me now, but there are two states I I want say, Pennsylvania and one other of this stuff it's that are in the last category, where the results may take a while to have from the absentee ballots. There are very few that have a shot at making a difference in the results. Now. Pennsylvania certainly is one of them and the reason why I am increasingly thinking it's not going to take a week No. The result is that so is growing more and more in the direction of Joe Biden this week. In fact, we had poles, Joe Biden is up eight in Pennsylvania or

even more, and that is the one there may be one other. That is one of the few states that could be a deciding state that has this. We don't start counting until the poles, close sort of scenario, and I may even be miss remembering that bottom line that the gist is, I think The election results being delayed will have more to do with whether Donald Trump successfully you lawyers and courts to see oh down or stop the counting of absentee ballots and or to get ballots dismissed, which he successfully did in Iowa this week. Or last week, I think it will have more to do with that. Then the actual time it will take to count the ballots. I think that if the ban its are allowed to be counted normally without interference that this is going to be an election where we know the results on November.

Well now that could be like midnight as November. Fifth is starting. I think the real chance for a delay would be Donald Trump, creating one through using lawyers, courts, lawsuits and the like. Let's hope it doesn't happen, let's hope it is so a blow out for Joe Biden, which depends on us that doesn't even matter that even on election night, it becomes clear that Joe Biden one it could happen. It could happen the next few weeks. Will terminal and ultimately, what does happen last question did David Wire, older voters abandoning trump last week you you talked about why rural white, older voters like Trump, but now there abandoning him. Why is it basically? Three reasons appear to be: what's going? What's really hurting Donald Trump in the last week. This is new. Before this week we knew crumbs handling of corona virus was hurting him in general and hurting him with older voters. Trumps handling,

the economy as a result of corona virus, meaning the economic destruction, was worse than it had to be because of trumps mishandling of corona virus. That is hurting Trump with older voters we now, in addition, have the issue of the performance. The post debate polls by Donald Trump, the post debate polls that account for Donald Trump trumps performance in the debate are a disaster Tromp specifically among older voters. Older voters in some poles are no longer even the demographic group age why's that most supports trump there's a new Paul. I think it was the CNN pull from this week, where the under thirty five crowd is actually trumps strongest. Group from this, in point of age and what's going on, is that for a lot of older folks, career No viruses, not abstract certain If you're in a nursing home- and you see

people dying and you see the chaos. It is not known. burn you check once a day. It very real, if you simply no people, not nursing home related who are doing well and of course, because it disproportionately affects older folks or the folks most likely to have friends and people in their circle that are suffering directly and then you see, go on television and say it's like a flu. It's no big deal. We ve turned the corner. Our mark we're getting great marks you see, the obvious lies, and you know well, you know Blanche died and joy who died. How is Trump saying this, your friends or an icy use that is going to create a problem for you, then one on top of it. You start looking. You know what your retirement account or you're on a fixed income cover trumps talking about cutting funding to social security by a payroll tax deferral. It's not good. and pretending that this was a hoax was a very bad

idea, the statistics don't lie, we set in May when Trump started transitioning into we beat it that that might work in June and July, but it's not going to work forever and it's not been working, and then you add to the fact that Hillary Clinton was less liked than Joe Biden. Joe by Biden by and large, particularly for older white folks is much more likeable than Hillary Clinton he's the type a guy. Most people would like to sit down and just talk to many older voters would identify with Joe Biden guy who grew up King Class, likes train has suffered significant personal loss and so on and so forth. Then you look at Trump. Just a rude disgusting. I who yelled the entire debate, so all of that together tells US seniors, are paying attention

they're not willing to die for the economy like the. What was Name Dan Roberts or Dan, Patrick. The lieutenant governor of Texas said early on in this thing and they're paying attention they're paying it. Into what's going on Trump already going into. All of this was doing ass well with seniors than many previous republicans had done now. It's gotten even worse, he's got that the latest poles in the last ninety six hours are very, very bad. and hopefully every single one of these groups will completely repudiate Donald Trump in a brutal, brutal defeat. But it's up to us to make it happen and we're going to try to do that exactly and we will continue pushing next week and the weak. later in the week after that, and then hopefully will have a new path. It intellect we have bonus show for you today. Remember you can get instant access, not an hour from now not twenty minutes from now instant access to the bonus

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