I want to start today with one of these totally disturbing in horror stories, that's framed in our modern cultural and economic system as entertainment or something nice when in reality it is a story that shows just how bad things are, and I am talking about is viral story of a cash scramble. Five thousand one dollar bills laid out on a nice ring in South Dakota, where during a hockey game during the Sioux Falls stampede hockey on Saturday night teachers

from near by schools, were invited to grab as many dollar bills as possible in less than five minutes in the idea. The point of this was it: five thousand dollars that the teachers can secure to get supplies for their classrooms, and the money was of course donated not for nothing. It was a sponsorship, see you mortgage direct Donny, did the five thousand in dollar bills in it change for sponsorship placement on the event, because they're so did it's an amazing thing that their doing so they get publicity out of it and the idea is let the teachers go added, picking up cash, and not only is it listen, of course, its demeaning to some degree and people out to pick up dollar bills, because it shows a certain degree of no financial need that is often stigmatized in many culture,

is not just unique to the United States. The idea of yours trembling for dollar bills and stuffing them in your pants and in Europe wherever it wherever it is that you're stopping them there's in other areas. It sort of allow cracked we're more refined, we're not so crass that we get on our hands and knees for dollar bill. So in some sense there's that aspect to it. But then it teachers, but teachers for money for supplies for their classrooms, and it's another one of these stories where, if things a functioning correctly. This way be necessary. You know that the classic example breaking bad tremendous revision programme, our brain, since then, as Walter White, as a high school science, teacher chemistry teacher. Who gets a diagnosis of lung cancer and said its cooking math sooner. Only pay for his treatment, but to leave some money for his family.

So it's a signal of yes, as a teacher is underpaid right because it needs to do this in order to pay for the treatment and leave some money to his family, but also a country That has single payer healthcare, universal health care of some kind. You don't need to go to cooking and selling math in order to pay for your medical treatments or in many countries breaking bad just never happened. These are similar stories to the ones we ve done where little Jimmy your little Shlomo seven years old, is raising money for Susie's cancer treatment. Any is making brownies blonde ease and their selling them at seventy five cents, each school fund raise for Susie's cancer treatment, how lovely what an amazing show of love and empathy, and it is those things, but it is still being that it is even necessary

why are seven year olds doing bake sales to raise money for someone else's cancer treatment or machine there's another one? I think this might have been like a prosthetic, but the gist. The story was in law. go machine shop Well, it's a wheelchair for some kid. who can afford the wheelchair and his parents can afford it. Well, we had a deal. Currently organised medical system used just the wheelchair, because its covered by social insurance or whatever other system is put in place and is very similar to this Entire South Dakota. Thankfully, Is it the meaning to be crawling around on your hands and knees for dollar bill sure if we're teachers crawling around on hands and knees. for themselves for dollar bills than we would say. Maybe the teachers are paid enough, ok, but this was teachers crawling around on hands and knees to get a share of five grand to gets applies further classrooms, and so

Maybe were not properly. Funding education, at least in South Dakota there are states, were education. Is relative well funded South Dakota, not estate known for projects the good infrastructure, healthcare or educational funding at the end of the day we D seek to. take away from humanity of the people doing the thing right when little Jimmy says I want Susie to get the cancer treatments, I'm gonna do it Exhale Jimmy's doing a great thing that should be praised when the local machine shop says kid can afford it. You'll chair We're gonna weld one for that. Don't those are great act, when teachers, what their students have what they need in the classroom. So they say I'll get on my hands and knees for dollar bills and stick em in my brine, my jock strapper, whatever it is

they're doing a good thing, they're doing good thing, but it is system that has failed if teachers, after all years of college, many two more years for a masters degree. Maybe three. You end up: on an ice rink wrestling for dollar bills to paper pencils, we have seen systems that have failed here and it's horrifying, and it's ok for us to say that its horrifying, even if the teachers are doing a great and you know what it's not even like the mortgage company is a bad guy. They put up the five grand sure I mean they didn't in exchange for respond to ship, it still five grand it's a systemic problem that continues to rear its head in these disturbing in circumstances. Remember that whole story about her emails, her being Hillary Clinton's emails, I'm sure you can remember Hilary the story went in twenties. Steam

was so irresponsible by her use of a private he mail server. That she should not be president, and instead it should be Donald Trump. In fact, they chant lock her up over her emails, Michael, Flynn, letter chant endless chance, lock her up, lock her up, lock her up but instead it is, actually Donald Trump, whose admit straighten, was riddled with pride, leave it private email servers encrypted mess. Jeanne apps pursued by private email accounts, messaging apps and the like the whole. story of, who will be responsible with information? Trump will be sponsible with emails trample. Do it all the right way have read birds for everything presidential records act. It was bs and No, that even car and Jared were using personal email for business related to their roles, as advised Donald Trump, but now there is an even bigger.

bombshell revelation on this exact issue. We now learned that Donald Trump last and final chief of staff, yet a few his last final chief of staff was marked Meadows Mart Meadow used? Your ego, own personal cell phone for White House business. One in personal gmail account. I say can personal Gmail account and the UN did messaging up signal all for official Whitehouse business. These people are pathetic, and their liars They win by doing this stuff and I'll get to that. In a moment, this is all coming out now, along with the Powerpoint planning, the I'm coup, which we talked about yesterday, thanks to her, fifty one page report from the House Select Committee in stating the January six riots in looking at whether to hold Mart meadows in contempt. The house put out a report: detailing has different actions, and this includes the revelation

meadows was using signal, the app his personal mobile phone and too Personal Gmail accounts for White House business, a gun and officials are supposed to use government issued accounts and services to communicate about their work, their supposed a form private messages to government. Wants to have true, parents, ie and accountability, and create a record from dragged about. He would have the most transparent. ministration in history and meadows. Didn't do it meadows is not the only one. Remember that this was the reason from said dont boat for Hilary and twenty sixteen, but Maloney Trump used. Private email he vanka Trump did it. It's very, very long list of people and nobody's chanting, lock him up lock her up about the trunk family and staff. Who did this exact same thing? I haven't trumpets, demanding, mark meadows be imprisoned. As a result of this,

They are nowhere because data, actually care about this when a Republican does and this is one of the reasons they went. That's the important thing they happen. crises, not new. I doubt many of you are shocked to hear that. Mark meadows was doing this and Of course they are hypocrites. We knew that. That's not surprising. but another reason they win is that I do this stuff. brazenly there bend the rules on voting. they bend the rules on everything they can deal right. New rules, Del throw rules out, they'll, get rules, council bill Attack opponents on any basis they can and when it comes to them. They ignore at all ignore their values, they don't apologize, they don't even justify it to their voters and that's why they win. They don't even go into the position of justifying it to their voters. They just ignore it everything and is ignored and they just power through and they

care about being exposed as hypocrites dammit It's on the other hand- and I get it because I don't want to be called a hypocrite and want to be a hip democrats. Actually try to avoid being hypocrites and when they are, they address it even If it's to say is defensible for whatever reason Republicans don't do that. Democrats ultimately find themselves in positions were the only way to proceed is look like hypocrites and cop to it or play just as dirty as Republicans in some way shape or form understand that Republic wanted to jail Hilary for this and tons of peace. All were doing the exact same thing in Donald I'm staff and data even pretend to apologize for it or righted office different. They just plough through and it's part of why they continue to win. How Democrats deal with that, I don't know,

Because, as I said before, redistricting to pick something For a while reduced Britain is going to be done in a partisan way Republicans will use it to their advantage when they have an opportunity to gerrymander democratic do the same. We have to change the system but democrat have to do the same. While that's the system, this other of Stuff demanding people be extra judiciously locked up when they haven't even been accused of a crime because of the revelation that they use private email whatever I get, it We don't want to stoop to their level their level is disgusting. So what do you do too? When I don't know the answer? I don't know the answer, but this is a perfect perfect example How republicans are throwing very heavy stones from weak glass houses and yet nobody throws any stones back. I don't know what the answer is, but I'm curious to hear from a way. You're, almost at the end of the year, it's it's shocking, actually, that twin, twenty one is already almost over. We want

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the senators who won in November of twenty twenty saying that Donald Trump actually won in the election results can be trusted. I'm not gonna put it up on the screen again is viewed by I get I get flak every time. I do it. I said: the tweet out shortly after the election saying something like you know, all of this Republicans saying Biden, stole it they were elected on the same ballots, where it would say Senator or Congress, and and on the same ballot president so how could it be? That the Trump Biden results or illegitimate, but their results are legitimate, wouldn't have to question the legitimacy of their own election. Of course, there never really ever held accountable for that inconsistency. Until now, Senator Roger Marshall. A Republican Come from Kansas. What, on meat, the press and interviewed by Chalk Todd on Sunday and in this conversation Chuck Todd

asks him do you believe you were elected, fair and square and he says yeah. I want and then he asked about whether Joe Biden was really elected, fair and square, and he says well, I do have concerns about election integrity and he dropped in a bunch of other coded language that these people are now regularly using to avoid. Dealing with the truce truth and addressing these issues substantively. So we're going to look at all of it. This is close two three minutes. It's a longer clip than we normally play, but it's worth seeing the full kind of arc of the conversations outlets watch it and then broken have a conversation about it, Bob dull at the beginning, we're gonna, have our own sort of tribute to him later in the show, but curious of this senator. though conceded the election and ninety ninety six The last president has not what could

The former president learn from Bob Doll. Well, listen. I think that this is an issue. We election integrity, and I think it's really important to Americans across the nation. We buy you that the ballot then the ballot booth. We want election integrity, there's a lot of controversy out there and I'm focus right now, I'm making a let making it easier to vote and in harder to cheat. I think that's the focus right now. I want to actually Bob don't wanna. Last interviews he gave was in July to say today she was asked about before president, he said this, he lost it. Action- and I regret that he did, but they did, He had really Giuliani running all over the country, claiming fraud. You never had one bit of fraud and all those losses it Bob and statements. He made a tramper, I'm sort of trumped out, though, do you know you voted you you stood with those that didn't want to certify the election. Do regret that considering all the crazy maybe things that

meadows and others are doing. Look, I'm always going to stand for election integrity. I did. I want to make sure that every state based their own laws and obey their own constitution, especially in a time of crisis. So that's what's at risk. For me, right now is maintaining the integrity of that an election, and I want to do everything I can going forward to make see, make sure that those elections have even more safety valves in it that there is higher levels of integrity. Americans die you the sanctity of that that ballot birthday, I believe you are elected, fair and square Twenty twenty.

Absolutely I do. I think Kansas has some of the tide of election laws in the land. We went back and looked and looked at them to make sure that it was a safe and fair election, so proud of our secretaries days so proud of our county clerks and those people that volunteer checking. The idea is to make sure that every person got one vote, just really proud about Kansas Goodwood other states who look and see how Kansas does it And you believe that Biden was elected, fair and square you, Joe Biden was sworn into office, I call me, Mr President, since the day he would enable I've still remain concerned about election into his eyes to remain concerned about election integrity. I think that that we need to go back and look at what the states obey their own laws did they made their own constitution. So there is a lot of kind of mush mouth nonsense in there. I am concerned about election integrity.

There- is lots of controversy. That's one of those things were yet Your side created the controversy out of thin air and then points to the fact. That controversy exists to say where we should really slow down, because if there's some much controversy. Maybe we can't trust those result well what The reason for the controversy, the other kind of coded line that uses there is we want to make sure that states obey their own laws, that is a garbage ponds, scum argument that they have come up and the way that that one works- and I know some of you know it is You hear this line all the time state changed their election rules without going through the legislature, and thus it is illegal unkind. The traditional Philip. the blank. This is not true

there are provisions that allow the states that changed the mate, of the parameters some of the parameters of the election, There are provisions that allow that to be done without going through the legislative process in some states. It was done related to covert in others. It was. Not done related to cope it, but it was still done and legally it is legal to do that. They insist it's not, but it is the other cut it. We stick trick that they use often is when he was asked his job by did Joe Biden. Wind, fair and square Marshall says Joe Biden is president, and he was sworn in an Chuck Todd rightly points out. That's not an answer to the question I asked We're not asking do you recognize that Joe Biden is the President today saying no to that is an extra level of wacky. The Quest is whether Joe Biden came to be the president today,

through an election, that he really one fair and square, and so whenever they say Joe Biden was sworn in and he is the president. When they are asked, did you win fair and square there? avoiding saying he one, fair and square, it's just a game that they play and at the end, Data game that they're playing is. If I wanted sphere, if you won, you cheated Even if I actually cheated now, if I were it's fair, if you want you cheated only hip Creasy. If you I believe that concern didn't see matters and, as we talked about earlier in the show they care about even appearing to be hook hypocrites. I I don't know what I was looking at the other day, but in the lead up to Trump winning in twenty six, I don't know how many of you remember this when there good jobs, numbers under Barack Obama, good unemployment numbers under Barack Obama, Trump insist

that the numbers from the Bureau of Labour Statistics and the fund from the beat from the bureau, Labour Statistics and Department of Labour we're false. You couldn't believe the numbers and within I think it was like a second maybe his first, but certainly by his second or third press briefing. When Sean Spicy transfers pressure to tarry came out and we just got great jobs numbers and it was like trumps been president three days. It couldn't possibly have anything to do with trumpets for the previous week before was even inaugurated Porter said from called these numbers fake before he was present? Are they no longer fake and she spacer laughed through it, but he said The numbers are now very, very real. The president now trust these numbers completely. They don't even pretend not to be hypocrites, and this goes back to commentary from probably eight nine months ago. At this point where they are he might realize that they are lying

they might realise that they are hypocrites. They might realise that bit they're holding themselves to a different standard than they hold the left, but they don't care. because they see this as being in a moral holy war. If Europe WAR much like, if you're in a literal war, you might say we may have to do some things. We wouldn't do in normal circumstances. We're gonna have except that some of us are gonna, behave, horribly, because we're at war and the end the means justify the ends its this thing here, They see whether lies report see whatever they see, as a justifiable means to an end. The label they are fighting for, in a moral and principled way, and when that's the case, how can you talk them two behaving like normal, rational, honest, consistent people, you can, and that's what's going on.

We told you that a doctor, Mehmet OZ, known Promoting all sorts of quack cures on his pseudo medical tv show is right for Senator in Pennsylvania. As a result, looking candidate This is a very important twenty twenty two race and in fact, control of the Senate. In the accession could hinge on whether Doktor, Mehmet OZ, wins the Pennsylvania Senate Race doctor. It is now very quick becoming too I'm the victim their cancelling me. He says the Philadelphia, inquirer and others are trying to call, cancel him by Making the editorial decision to call him Mehmet OZ instead of doktor us in their publication, that's that's it and he says try to cancel me. There is actually really interesting.

Both grammar and journalism behind it. There are many media outlets, in fact that have decided that when they talk about Doktor OZ, they will say Mehmet Ass, a doktor from Pennsylvania, we know ever state. They then, if as being from not doktor us, why, the Philadelphia enquire as a style guide Dial guide has existed for a while style Guide says: do now use doktor on the first reference for anyone with the title, whether they are a medical doctor or have a doctorate in a non medical field, to avoid complaints of unequal treatment from individuals who worked hard to achieve doctrines. Doctorate in non medical field, so the the Enquirer rule rulers, we just don't referred a people. Generally speaking doktor, regardless of whether they are medical doctor or not, if we did

Then, all of a sudden, you got anybody with a phd in anything. You have to say doctor every single time might be confusing, etc. They have to exceptions, exception number one is in o bitchy, whereas if someone is died, you say doktor whatever and If you're talking about reverend Doktor Martin Luther King Jr, that's their exception, other papers have rules for using doctor in poppy. culture, but yes in science as an example. So, if you're writing an article about medicine- and you quoted doctor- you say doctor whatever: if its popular culture, you don't know, That's what's at the core of doktor arms is his pop culture, he is Mehmet as television host, who plays a doctor he is a medical doctor, but in his role culture has a show in which he is a doctor,

that gives advice about different thing: join away: doktor US furious. He says this is a cancellation. Let's watch him explain it. no they're not their put, no come on this scale. Here's the thing: there's a sudden, Lucy S, response to the campaign on Europe; S Burg, talking to people and makes the optimistic as it got great ideas me, while the enquire hates hates, there are many powering. You hate that taken on somebody. It established the proposed text that the entrepreneurial solutions are mop. We might make sense and they don't like that. I say what I say so they want to silence may and I think it is shocking that it will. The ban on comparable this early in my campaign, but I think it reflective of the movement we represent, will their turn to cancel you. I saw your twitter, that's what you said and they what a response. I posted back get a huge response, because people say it: I mean look away. Why would they acquire get involved in partly? Why would they not want to call me doctor, as and when those on doctors, but they don't think it's

right thing to do. They think it gives me an unfair advantage. So that is that really is very interesting and you know ran policy doktor centred around pollys off the largest. He was not referred to Doktor Rand Paul during his campaign. It was Paul The knowledge is from Kentucky: ok, totally reasonable the different. here is that for men, Let us do after all, is actually his. His cultural identity it's more than his profession and in fact, when we say Doctor OZ is running we're. saying that guy we know as a surgeon, Doktor OZ is running worsened doktor OZ, the figure, the doktor OZ show the truth is its Mehmet OZ, whose a doctor it's his personality. It's his celebrity built around character, Doktor OZ. That is why we know who the guy is. Who is men at us? Lotta people wouldn't even know you said to people who is Mehmet. Oz is out of order. No, whose doctor oh yeah, the guy from TV. I make sense. So

I do believe that dog, OZ, has an argument to say I'm known as doktor arts as a brand nodded professional. These people dont know me as a doctor. In terms of my relationship with them. They know, We as the brand doktor OZ from TV, probably right, that it is better for him to be rich. Up his doctor OZ, instead of Mehmet OZ, but also publications, have to make decisions and typically, particularly when it's not about medicine, they need candidates by their names, Mehmet Arts, you're from Pennsylvania, not doktor, also completely agree with the decision keys being cancelled. Their editorial policy is in writing and they're following We disagree with me. Let me know will also

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one was you do believe that ultimately, Donald Trump is going to be indicted and too that you do not think that he is going to run for president in in twenty twenty four that was a few months ago. Do you still feel the same way, actually do nothing, has changed other than the greater American gripped by Donald and CO ports, whereby their whole intent is to make. You believe that there are going to run in twenty twenty four, because the second that they tell you that were not that's when the speculative funds, from all of these republic in force that is standing behind. Donald will end up shutting off what is the that. Is that the only reason to keep the drift going right now that he may run just to keep fundraising is that all there is to it. Otherwise what else is there for him? You know she's not running, because he can afford to lose a second time you see again. The big lie is only promote

did by the notion that the election was stolen from it. If, in fact, the election was not stolen from in what happens to the big lie, you can't say in twenty twenty four others than from me again, it's almost wholly right. Quite frankly. If it was again, they did it again and it just doesn't work anymore. The first I you know, like the old expression first Shame on you second time. Shame on me what this would be a shame on me moment and Donald can afford that, and statistical He already knows that he can't win the general election. on the criminal stuff. Who is going to charge him and for what crimes, I think, is the most common question I get when the topic of that comes.

What what are the answers given that was well, it makes it makes sense David. It that's the number one question that comes with it happens to be the number one question that everybody keeps asking me. Unfortunately, I dont discuss these summoned substance of the district attorney outward the attorney general's case here in New York. The things that we do know is that it's pretty hated upon valuation of assets are using those valuations for loans and other things, but there's also, then the sick have, which is the devaluation of the identical at its for tat purpose. Ok, so wit, without getting into detail about your involvement. It's not the absurd

action stuff that people are talking about during the presidency its now. These are what I want financial stuff here from the business. Well, that's what we're talking about what the district attorney the district attorney in the state of New York would have absolutely oh jurisdiction over the January sixth insurrection that clearly federal. when you are a major just for context for people who may or may not know about you, you had a long history of supporting democratic candidates for a very long time. Right I mean how do you define your personal politics data

In a Democrat, my entire life in nineteen eighty seven, I worked for congressmen, Joe mostly of Massachusetts. While I was attending American University, I have been a Democrat, my entire life. Until ultimately, I was required to switch parties during the campaign because actions, I should say, post the campaign, because I was the first democratic who held the position as vice chair of the currency, fine AIDS committee- and they ask- couldn't accept that a bit it makes perfect sense, yeah and self wasn't who cannot Democrat running the finance committee for though yeah just about yeah that, fortunately for them it was being run by Steve Wind did a remarkable job in terms of fund raising. It was still win myself. It was Elliot, Broidery allude to joy right. It was really the four of us and obviously they couldn't haven't democratic. On that

TAT. He saw in the last twenty four to forty eight hours. We heard about these text messages that were allegedly sent to the former chief of staff mark meadows on the day of the January, sixty insurrection and included Laura Ingram, the Fox news host texting meadows in saying this is looking really bad David David. I'm sorry too, do we pronounce it? Is it Ingram or is that Ngos have? I mean I've heard people they both? Personally, I you can't stand you the way. I don't care, I don't care how you pronounce, unless they I'm just trying to get an expert leaving yours, I'm trying to get an expert analysis on the I've said. Inga him and people say that that's not correct. I hear it is Ingrid here, my dear Miss Ingram, I like I said I can't stand to read the way, doesn't make any difference to me, but I just wonder at least for now-

the S name right. So she was texting. Mark meadows on the sixth Sean Hannity was texting. Don Junior instead of texting is dad, was texting. Market meadows, for me the most interesting thing about those text messages, that the story that they told after about it might have been Antigua and There was really no big deal, they obviously new on January six, that it was Trump supporters that were there. What what else do you make of? The fact that so many people from Fox were texting mark meadows is this was going on? are you shot? Is anything about that question? That shocks knew that fox and whose max and away again wouldn't be lying about this seriously I mean, for God, takes the whole thing again, is it

it was an insurrection and what we know now as a direct result, is that a hundred and seven eighty seven one hundred and eighty seven minutes transpired before dear Old Donald, came out and said: hey, I want everybody to disperse, go home and thence because he had his fun over those three hours watching these. These mega fools running around in paramilitary gear, right, beating up on police officers out there with these massive, mega flags in Trump. Twenty twenty in God knows what other Stupids slightly swatch that they thought that they were wearing running around all right for the benefit of who the furore Donald and for some unknown reason. The guy sat there in the in the White House in our house.

Watching the television and thinking that it was ok that this is good, then he's going to somehow stop the elect poor old decision process from declaring Joe Biden as the as the President of the United States and that somehow he would be reinserting as president of the United States for another four years, despite the fact that he lost by close, nine million votes and that the electoral count was an absolute s, speech, the young, the stories from that day are that all sorts of people were urging him do this. Do this? Do that

and that he was ignoring it at least for a while when you were working for him, was that a common occurrence where you would go and say this is not good for you. We need to do a b c and that he would just ignore it on the idea that he knows more than you do. Rights O Donnell knows more than everybody. Let's just look back because everything with the reason why I am so successful in predicting Donald Trump stupidity is because, first and foremost I graduated valedictorian from Trump Universe. It that's first and second, it's because nothing with him is original. It's all like a regurgitation of tests coming out. So yes, Donald Trump does not listen

to anyone. Donald Trump knows more than everyone. Let's look at some of the things that he said. He knows more about epidemiology, though didn't use the word because he doesn't know the word. Nor can dispel it right. He knows more about science, then the scientists again referring it that in time to epidemiologist extraordinaire Doktor Anthony Fouche in the overall virus? you know more about it. What else does dear old do speak Donald know more about? He knows more about military and strategy than outrage generals. I mean, if you not scratching your head at this point, while watching the shall we say, come on seriously the dad you're ready. You know more about sim, seemingly every thing than anybody else.

and yet you are an expert in nothing right. What do we talk about being, since you know so much? How trump fog could do have trouble mortgage do right? How did you know? Trumps stake still haven't trump suits do had been trump anything, do the brain is worthless, biggest truth be told he showed himself for what he really is- and I say it all. The time he's a racist, sexist, massage, monistic, xenophobic, homophobic Islamophobia, Anti semitic, germ of folk, that's who he is, and so how you could expect that this is going to be the guy. That knows more about everybody and everything. It's just not true. In fact, what we know he's ignorant and these arrogant hey on the anti just to pick one one of those ten things on. Anti Semitism, stuff,

Yours personal lawyer for awhile his daughter, converted to Judaism, his son in law, eyes. Jewish grandkids from from them are our jewish, There is sometimes these there. There are people, I've, met who harbour anti semitic beliefs, but they sort of wanna be in League with Jews for lightly anti semitic. Reasons like they think they're clever, like the Saudis, for example, now are very interested in doing business with certain hedge funds that are run by jewish individuals? Can you a little bit about the seeming inconsistency between the number of jewish folks in his family and what you believe to be his anti semitism. Ok, first of all, in order to sort of care about the jewish people in order to care about forget about his workers right, I myself Alan Weissenburg, Alan Garden, allowing leg.

a whole slew of other individuals at the Trump Organization in high ranking positions, right being. Jewish, he doesn't care if you are able to accomplish what he needs. He wouldn't care what race religion will. Actually he wouldn't care what religion that you want, but yes, he does fine Jews to be clever, and so that was something his father taught him that there, okay, if you work now, as far as vodka you'll become obviously becoming jewish and converting yo. Now being, would you call you was the doubts but modern orthodox having the three

YO jewish grandchildren. Why Donald Trump doesn't care, because in order to care about somebody else's religion, you have to care about your own and Donald Trump does not care about his own religion because he had no religious upbringing. Nor does it yet when he turns around and he's holding the Bible, another light, and he says, I know more about you know, Corinthian deal Corinthian too and saw any it's. The guy never went to church. The guy went to church, for maybe his arm confirmation and then stopped, but he doesn't have religious convictions. Therefore, when people say to me open his grandkids jewish, so clearly he can't be anti semitic. It's the stone, but his comment that somebody could make you can

here about you know about Christianity. If you don't care about your own religion, you kid care about Islam. If you don't care about your own religion, that's just a fact. He has no religious conviction at all. Could care less not just about his grey kids out what his daughters religion, but he doesn't air about his daughter or is Greek it's either while sitting giving given that its own children throughout his entire, like? Let's just let me just back it up with facts, something that I continuously do. Despite the fact some people want to hear it and those that do already despised the guy anyway and those that don't I get, would allow him to shoot. Someone on Fifth avenue and get away with it here,

that is, three children, that's ok, many people get divorced, I get it. He walked out on them, but he basically had little or nothing to do with them. He was an absentee father. All along done, then for went to the hill of Ill school. Then he Vanka went away to boarding. School came back then Eric as soon as that he was old. Enough went off, the boarding school is well. He then he has Tiffany from Marla since herself to California barely sees her, maybe once a year on her birthday, they speak. Also, now it's daddy, daddy, daddy! Oh, I love till. He was such a great father. That's not used to tell all prefer ends right and now you have baron. When was the last time you saw baron. When was the last time like? If, if I was present in the United States, I be thrown a baseball with my kid right.

That's my son. Sport right will we be passing around a football. I would probably even build the tennis court in the back yard, so my son and I could eat when my daughter- and so you see my children- you never see baron anyway. Barely has anything to do with that child either right any now water son he's gonna worry about is grandkids Donald Trump doesn't care about anyone or anything other than himself Period dropped the MIKE Michael last thing I want to talk about, because this has been the source of such controversy. you were a character in the infamous steel dossier and specifically in the dossier. The allegation was, you went to Prague. you met with

the either or both russian officials or those who have the decency and you were involved there. Now you ve said it's: it's not even a distortion. It's just not true! You! You ve, never been to Prague right. I've never been to Prague, I've never been to anywhere in the Czech Republic. I dont even believe you know, because my geographies not great, but you have. They claim that I came in to Prague through Germany. I've never been to Germany. In fact they, I've never even been to Russia, and so do you know why that ended up in the dossier aside from anything else being true or false, what do they know the origin of that, so the steel dossier, as relates

mean everybody says. Well, there were things in the still does say that are accurate or potentially acrid, thereby, therefore we can't discounted completely- and I say that's fair- that's fair for you to say, but let me only bring up the eleven allegations raised about me more like anybody else. None of them are accurate. It's bullshit, Christopher Steel is a joke, as in Emma six agent who supposedly had contacted you know, had information and knowledge that was relevant to this Christopher steals a joke. The MIT six should be embarrassed of this document. They should be embarrassed that you have a work for them. It's just absolutely untrue. I have said it and stay number one. It has been proven by the FBI that I was never there right. You may even recall that I, somewhere

the light somebody put out of it was another Michael Cohen that was there and sound, but yet they can never produce that Michael Collins Passport. I just wasn't there. In fact, where was I I was in LOS Angeles. California, with my family, with my son, who is looking to play baseball is a picture. A U s c trojans and we met with the entire coaching staff. He was being looked at and, oh, you know. I know for a fact that you kid in two places at once, and I dont have a twin brother. So I don't even know where this came from, and yet it was just

used and promoted on and on and on because this, of course, would have been a big deal now, some of the things that I testified before the House Oversight Committee, as well as to the select committees intelligence by both the house to send it and other committees and other law enforcement agencies, was that. I was never in Prague, however. However, the dissemination of the pedestrian emails, I testify that came from Roger Stone in a phone call why that was never followed I dont know the answer it so infuriating. When I see now that now that you're Democrats have the house right, it meaning White House put the attorney. General miracle went onto it, Roger

Stone contacted Donald. I was there, he put it on the Speaker Box and he said nothing shy of in a couple it. I just got off the phone with some. What what's his name? from weak from wiggly Julian Assange ever Julian Assange and in a couple of days theirs. going to be a massive dump of emails? That's going to destroy the Clinton campaign and Donald was like. Ok. That's great, that's great right then, after when he hung up on we believe it s Rogers both right, it's why, of course you call him the dirty tricks to, but this Roger you never know, and lo and behold was it too, three days later, massive dump pedestrians emails. Did it hurt Hilary campaign, it sure did, did it destroy it? Man, I don't think it destroyed it, but it was every single thing that

just stone stated make sure you listen to Michael Cohen's podcast, the mayor, copper podcast. The book is disloyal a memoir Michael. I really appreciate your time today. Thank you so much for doing it, David, good. To see you stay stay safe out. There were, of our sponsors is nebula, whose interests using their newest shower head the nebula by Mon quattro. It was design and by former NASA engineers who spent years researching how to save water. Quattro is the world's best high pressure, water saving shower head, starting it. Just a hundred nineteen dollars and Quattro uses forty to fifty percent, less water than traditional showerheads helping the planet, helping your wallet still giving you the high pressure, water stream, you love with four different spray modes. Literally takes one to two minutes to install

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Different scams not only on the american people generally, but on their own followers and donors. We ve talked about fund raising scams before one such scam was that after the twenty twenty election, Donald Trump claim to be raising money for fighting the election results for overturning the election and you donate, presumably to audits. and recounts, and whatever else now, thou is a scam on its face, obviously, because they want to overturn the election but There were other layers on which it was a scam as well, for example, in the fine print when Trump was raising money to overturn the election results depending on the promo, you would look at the fine print and it would say fit percent of your donation? So Eighty percent of your donation can be used not to fight it. to overturn the election, but to pay off. The campaign debt price. here too the election the

Scam was some pre check boxes when you would make what you thought was a one time donation to trump. One of them taxes that was automatically checked unless you one check it is your committing to an ongoing donation, even though you meant to make a single and second box was that in some cases the amount would go up whenever you're donation there would be like a multiplier of some kind added on in the sun. Frequent donation, so that was another scam that they did theirs you scam now, or at least it has returned the new, scam is that the arrest see that's the National Republic Republican, senatorial committee, is running a promo called dinner? tromp now If I say to you We are running a have dinner with me promo. Would you expect me to be at the dinner? I think so. If I ran a promo called have dinner with my mom? Would you

That's my mom to be at the dinner. Yes, I think so. If a celebrity chef like friend Tyler Florence runs a have dinner with Tyler Promo, would you expect him to be there, I would but the dinner with Trump dinner, doesn't have Trump this is a huge thing, their promoting it as enter to win dinner with Trump. Do you want to have dinner with president drop enter now for your chance to meet President Trump, but then you, without the fine print, and it said is a winner and aghast will have a private dinner with senators Lindsey gram ten Scott and Scott, that there is no mention of tramp tramp, won't be at the dinner for the winner of the dead, with Trump Promo or give away

judge, lagoon or Leggum Been researching this and apparently this is a common scam that Trump and Republicans ran during the twenty twenty campaign. There were all these promos lunch with Trump in Chicago dinner, with Trump in Cleveland. All of this stuff now is possible. Some of these events happened tromp had lunch your dinner with somebody one thing I know he had loved her dinner, but with some of the people who actually entered. Maybe but there is no evidence that were able to find that any of these events actually took place. Now I want to be really clear. I dont care but the people getting scammed here in the sense that if you're willing willing to do anything to help Trump and these, Republicans win donate whatever for a meal with Trump. Arguably, you ve been scammed, mere by the fact that your supporting this corrupt parties Like missing the dinner is kind

the cherry on top of the scam but there be repercussions here, because if you run a lottery and nobody winds, you just collect the money. That's illegal. When you do giveaways raft, etc. These things are governed by a bunch of different law, and it's taken pretty seriously. In most cases when you are trump, I guess, or the National Republican Senate Committee or whatever it is, that there are called ever Thing is a scam the campaign itself. the promises that were made, but not kept. Presidency itself: the fund raising now even the giveaways are a scam is while they should be held accountable, no evidence that they are going to be there is just an incredible. New chapter in The Trump riot investigation I dont even know where to start setting this up. there was a riot on January six, it was tromp. Supporters Hundreds of them are now in the legal system as

cases go through the process There is an investigative committee. Investigating what happened. It's a house of Representatives Committee and there have now been revealed per list. Cheney text sieges, sent listen to this from Fox news posts, two Donald trumps, former chief of staff mark meadows, the text are remarkable because they expose number one. How come The connection was between Fox hosts and trumps inner circle, which we knew, but it reinforces that but number two the content of the texts that Lord Ingram sent to mark meadows Sean Hannity, sent a marked meadows Don Junior sector marshmallows. Why is Don Junior texting meadows instead of calling Trump Whelp Trump, one

claimed his wife calls him, sir? That probably tells you a lot about his relationship with his own kids. The texts confirm that all of them knew. It was supporters and they knew it looked really really bad and their lies later. they knew were lies. Let me give you some examples. Laura Ingram texted, mark meadows on January? Sixth, according to Liz, Cheney quote Trump. Needs to tell people in the capital to go home. this is hurting all of us. He is destroying his legacy. If it were anti fa. Be Elam. Rioting on January sex Lord Ingram wouldn't have been saying that she knows the truth of what happened. However, That night on her programme, Laura Ingram, leads with story about antifreeze role, in the trunk riots suggests,

that there were provocateurs. This was not genuine from pests, genuinely rioting. Writing they were provoked and she suggests it was just three dozen people who participate. she was corrected by cabin Mccarthy on her shell. While so yours thing she knew she was lying. Yes, the text proven next. sample Brian kill me. It is one of the hosts of that a key morning shall Fox in front Brien. Kill me wrote to mark meadows quote. Please get him on tv, destroying every Thank you have accomplished and then kill me play, up every lie about what happened, to diminish and to downplay the seriousness of it Sean, Hannity, unknown friend, of trump to the extent from his friends. Wrote to mark meadows can make a statement. Ask people to leave the capital. and then handily proceeded to downplayed all four months host People who claimed it was

anti and on and on he knew it was all life he was there acting on January. Sixteen, this is bad, is really bad. their text messages were sent to mark meadows by Don Junior. Don Junior wrote to mark meadows he's got I condemn this ass, a sap, the cat, but all police tweet is not enough. imagine having to go through your dad's chief of staff, because he's hard, headed or doesn't care, enough about your opinion too. Actually listen to you directly and matter RO back, I'm pushing it hard. I agree Trump then wrote back to mark meadows said. We need an oval office address. He has to lead. Now it's gone far and gotten out of hand, but now Don Junior just tells lie after lie after lie about what supposedly believes took place on that day. He knows exactly what happened on that day and they ve been lying all along too. There are two stories, your one all these what did see it for what it is and they're just lying to Trump right now,

and address the underlying on the air right now and then. Secondly, look at people who have died lines to trumps chief of staff, the relationship between Fox NEWS and that administration really something to behold. So every day we are learning. More and more lies more and more deception. We have a voice mail number. That number is too one nine to David P. Yesterday I played Clip of Jim Brewer for you, the agony who has been a loyal listener for fourteen years called and said it? I've never forwarded anything you ve done until you said the name, Jim Brewer, take a lesson of this data and listened You shall regularly for a year and a really long time. You gave up I've never fast forward it passive interview among boy Hurry interviews, I listen to you. I've learned so much about

being an old man. Like all read the gray Timid, a lively, a thousand I've learned so much matter how boring it it, but when you play Jim Brewer, I pressed forward thirty seconds fast forward thirty seconds as soon as you said, that guy's name follow yes, I'm not a completely unique reaction. I got a number of emails from people saying I couldn't listen to that. It was too cringing and listen. I apologized, after playing the clip after all We ve got a great bonus show for you today, sign up at joint pachmann dotcom you'll get in. and access to the bonus, show and remember to get on my news letter. My mailing list at David Pachmann Dotcom January first, will be doing a border line, the illegal membership discount special trying to kick off twenty two off. strongly there. Strongly in fact we're looking at it sign up for my mailing list at David's happen: dot com. I will see you on the phone, it's showing its the moment