So yesterday, as many of you listen to and watched and emailed me about, I interviewed Donald Trump, former attorney, Michael Cohen, now, Michael Cohen, does Greece with me, or at least I could be swayed but I've been saying, I dont believe Donald Trump is ultimately going to be charged with any crimes. Michael Cohen believes that he will but me Michael's commentary was really restricted. to the financial stuff, Michael Cohen, would know about meaning, sometimes overstating and sometimes understating the value of different assets for the purposes of either. training loans or minimizing taxes or whatever the case may be.

There is now another layer as to the possible criminal charges that maybe would becoming Donald Trump way. Now I still a very sceptical that this going to become a real thing, but at this. wait. There is a member of Congress that is alluding to it. So so I do think that its real enough that we should be talking about it. What am I talking about? Well, yesterday we played We we rather we reviewed text, messages that republican Congresswoman Lynn, Liz Cheney read during a hearing with came from various fox news. Hosts and Donald Trump Junior to Donald Trump, former chief of staff mark met. Now we're going now look at some video of her talking about this and it's about a three minute video and going to also that you get the full context, pay special, attention near the end where chain

they actually says, did die not trump through action or, action career We seek to obstruct or impede Congress is proceeding I'll. Tell you in a moment why that is so relevant. Let's take a look at the video is taxed. Suggests leave. No doubt the White House knew exactly what was happening here at the Capitol members of Congress. The press and others wrote to mark matters, as the attack was under way. One text, Mr Meadows received said quote: we are under siege here at the capitol another quote. They have breached the capital in a third, mark protesters are literally storming the capital, breaking windows and doors. Rushing in is true

going to say something. A fourth there's an armed stand off at the House Chamber door. and another from someone inside the capital. We are all helpless. Dozens of texts, including from Trump Administration officials, urged immediate action by the President quote Potest has to come out firmly

and tell the protesters to dissipate some one is going to get killed in another mark. He needs to stop this now. A third in all caps tell them to go home of force, and I quote: Otis needs to calm this shit down. Indeed, according to the records, multiple Fox news hosts knew the president needed to act immediately. They texted MR meadows, and he has turned over those texts. Quote, mark the president needs to tell people in the capital to go home. This is hurting all of us. He is destroyed

His legacy, Laura Ingram wrote. Please get him on tv, destroying everything you have accomplished. Brian kill me texted quote: can he make a statement? Ask people to leave the capital Sean Hannity urged as the violence continued one of the president's sons texted Mr Meadows, he's got to condemn this shit. A sap, the capital police, Tweet, is not enough. Donald Trump Junior, texted meadows responded quote, I'm pushing it hard. I agree still President Tromp did not immediately act, Donald Trump, Junior, texted, again and again, urgent action by the president quote. We need an oval,

office address, he has to lead now. It has gone too far and gotten out of hand. End quote but hours passed without necessary action by the president. These non privilege tax are further evidence of president trumps, frame dereliction of duty during those one hundred and eighty seven minutes, and Mr Meadows testimony will bear on another key question before this committee did Donald Trump through action or inaction, corruptly seek to us strapped or impede congresses official proceedings to count electoral votes, Mark meadows, testimony is necessary to inform our legislative judgments. Okay, so that's a lot of different things that she said, but at the end,

she says, did Donald Trump corruptly seek to obstruct or impede. Congress is proceeding, This is being considered. The most direct see no, thus far that there is the possibility that Donald Trump I'd be charged with pretty serious federal crimes. What Cheney their relates to eighteen. U S! Code sub, section, fifteen o five obstruction of proceedings, before departments, agencies and committees- the issue here, of course, being Donald Trump. Attempts to struck investigation. Into himself Also attempts to obstruct. proceedings, which would correctly

Cs Joe Biden, the winner of the twenty twenty election and reads, whoever, with intent to avoid, evade, prevent or obstruct compliance with any civil investigative demand duly and properly made wilful Withholds misrepresents room moves from any place conceals covers up. At etc, etc, shall find under this title, imprison not more than five years or if it involves international domestic terrorism up to eight years. So the idea here is that list Cheney is hinting at possible criminal just for Donald Trump over the entire, situation now that has exploded for Donald Trump, former chief of staff, Mark meadows, involving text messages involving a powerful which very directly that here's how we would do the coup and here the different elements that we would look at doing there were of different legal analysts are talking about this. Harvard law school prefer.

Sir Emeritus Lawrence tribe, pointed out that refers specifically to U S: Code, sub, section: fifteen, o five? Eighteen? U S code sub, section! Fifty oh five and see and ends Ellie Hornig made. A similar comment when he interviewed by John Berman- and so this is now going to be a question of whether or not Donald Trump get away with clay presidential immunity. That would be the next layer. here, imagine that this happens, ok and then again, This is why I see it as unlikely But I'm a little bit closer to thinking it's conceivable that there could be charges, although I do guys not going to spend the day in prison if in He'd, they tried to charge Trump for his role. In any of these various obstructive acts, because there is actually no shortage of them. He would it

likely first claim that he had presidential immunity for anything that he did now. The problem with that is how do you justify trumps obstructive actions with regard to it? Best negations into him or directions of others to abstain, How do you justify that as a presidential duty, because at the end of the day immunity. is limited based on the legal experts, have spoken too in the scholarship that I've read the IMF unity is limited to his official duties or things carried out early in his role as president, so fortunate we or unfortunately, I know many of you dont like this, but when a president makes a decision for a country to go to war and peace? we'll die as a result of that could be, american troops could be, foreign troops could be civilians, It is very difficult to hold them accountable, as if these were

individual criminal acts because they do have pretty broad presidential immunity. Could it be challenged? Maybe, but the point here as we are now argue, we outside of that. The argument that would be made against trumps claim of presidential immunity and there's a bunch of different people who have tweeted about this in written commentaries. How do you justify that Donald obstructive act related to his own wrong. Doing would be covered by presidential immunity and there are people who say yeah. If the president does it it's not a crime of harking back to it to Richard Nixon, but there is a debate about that. fundamentally if there were charges, Donald Trump would lie

If we try to assert that he had presidential and has presidential immunity on the basis of what he did and then it would become well, are the obstructive acts actually covered by immunity, and there is an argument to be made that they are not. It would be a fight, it would be. Very. Very big. Legal fight could be ages, but the first signal that maybe there are people in Congress, a Republican, no less thinking of crimes relate Donald transactions. Of course the crimes would be up to the Justice Department to bring. It still doesn't seem that merit garland seem super interested in that it'll be a story for a different day. There is something really interesting going on with now Senate Minority leader Mitch Mcconnell the reply again senator from Kentucky one republican senator from Kentucky. Now I want to be really clear which Mcconnell Still, I discuss republican, key maneuvered to keep

Morocco Bombers Supreme Court pick out of the Supreme Court and Russian Donald Trump Pick specifically thinking about Amy Count, Coney bear it his morals his political views, their vile in every way, and that that doesn't change, but As a curiosity, MID, Mcconnell appears to have sort of had enough of the, stream pro Trump wing of the party trashing him and he might be ready to throw trumpets into the proverbial trash, I'm going to play a clip for you here in which Mitch. Mcconnell was ass during a press conference, Did you speak to mark meadows on January. Sixth, as we learn about all of the different people at did and what is your thought about? All of it and the involvement of his Fox news hosts with meadows in the administration and Mitch says I didn't speak to mark meadows but I am interested to see all of Participants who were involved revealed

and I'm getting the sense that he's ready to. Let him hanged so check out the clip, here's much Mccord learning from the House Select Committee that a number of public gets a reached out tomorrow, meadows asking for Donald Trump to get more involved and do more generous sex to secure this building. Will you personally in contact what matters that date. Other point US officials to urge the job to do I was not, but I do think we're all as you are, what unfolding on our side and it will they send a reveal Ali judgment. There were involved, we concerning Mitch, Mcconnell and other establishment. Republicans have been targeted. By personal attacks and name calling and hostility by Trump and from this for a year now. I think that matches sick of it. I think it has had a major impact on him.

look at all the people that Donald Trump endorsed so far for twenty twenty two? Many of them have said I wouldn't support, Mitch, Mcconnell being the leader Republicans in the Senate, from has said Mitch. Mcconnell should leave the position from has said, Miss Mcconnell is bad now to use very simplistic language and to be fair Mitch. Mcconnell is also closing in on retirement. There is no doubt Heads of Mitch, Mcconnell or establishment republicans, but this is a recognition. That it's really may have no interest at all in running interference for the people that might be brought and by the January six committee, and that includes other Republicans from the more sycophantic pro trump of the Republican Party now we zoom out, I don't expect this change. The republican Party in any substantive way, but I do hope that it will be another element of this.

building republican civil war pro Trump verses, Anti Trump, which, if we're lucky will interfere with Republicans being able to run solid campaigns, and hopefully, even if the left can get it together will allow for some victories by Democrats and others on the left That's my interest in this. I am being very up front with you that that's my horse in the re so to speak and, at the end, There is no real moral stance here for Mitch. Mcconnell, it's just what's in it for him, it's bad for him. If there are more Republicans in the House and Senate that don't like him, it's bad for him. If Republicans, who won't support his the ship get elected to the Senate. He doesn't like me hold names. He might want revenge solid is there's no Big moral awakening here for Mitch, Mcconnell, it's just if it's bad for him, he'll be against it, and it seems pretty clear at this point that the Trump Biased wing of the report

in party isn't particularly big on Mitch Mcconnell. So it's going to be fascinating to watch. I can t you to believe that the left should inflame this republican civil war as as the left candid can only be good for the left. It might not do that much good, but it's not going to be bad it at and it might be good, and so it's worth doing all right to announcements tonight number one yesterday's town Hall had to be rescheduled a combination of tax issues and Youtube live being in an out right when the time always scheduled means. We have rescheduled it for two weeks from yesterday, the new town hall date. December, twenty Eightth six pm Eastern that will really be the last one of the year, because it's like three days from the end of the year so December, twenty Eightth six p M eastern at the new date. Secondly, we are planning on the big ever one day, membership bomb on January, first, twenty twenty two. We will now

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Various members get vaccinated and losing service members refusing to get vaccinated is weakening the military and is therefore unpatriotic and a socialist and a marxist, and a communist and write like although it along the whole thing. twenty seven people have been discharged, ladys and job. That is that it, that what we know so far at the air force has discharge? Twenty seven service members were refusing the covert vaccine. These are the first servicemen is to be involuntarily discharged for refusing the vaccine spokesperson for the AIR force said, received counselling about the vaccines they still refused. and commanders made the decision to discharge them for refusing to comply with that requirement. Cons or to be a lawful or order, Twenty. Seven of these individuals were with the air force under six years.

There may have been additional reasons for the discharge, but the covert vaccine refusal was at least one of those reasons, now. They announced this back in August, so they had August September actor. Bert November. We are now in December. The force had a deadline of November second, which was one of the earlier deadlines. And, of course you don't immune leave remove the people on November. Second, you ve gotta go through a process that has now taken place each row of the military. Has its own process for discharge, and they all include we're gonna Council, you about the vaccine, we're going to educate you about Vaccine Then there will be disciplinary action. You will still have an opportunity to get back backdated and only after that will we start with the discharge and what is fascinating about it. Is that what the right says is a horribly rotarian thing is number one, something that has been in the military for what what

hundred years and or even no one. The first military vaccine requirement came in, but in particular in the military there, have been so many vaccine requirements that nobody questioned for so long so number one. If this authoritarian Where have you been all this time? That's the first issue, the second Is that even the way their handling? This is Emily? Lee reasonable. I am reminded of the segment we recently did, where Tucker Karlsson criticised a CNN hosts name Brian Spelter, because brains, you're fired his nanny, he fired is nannie because she wouldn't get vaccinated to be around his kid and when you listen to brain stouter explanatory, says yeah. You know we really like the nanny and so we said, let's wait. Six, my She doesn't want the vaccine, but let's wait six months because she'll see that it's safe and come to the decision on her own that she's gonna get the vaccine to protect our kid or kids. I remember how many

and she still didn't do it, so it was really tough, but we did let her go because we want someone vaccinated around our kit. Eminently reed and here with the military, its were giving months notice that by November Second- you ve gotta, be vaccinated. You refused gonna, give you counselling if you fuse. We're gonna, give you education, we will then just give you write it up and still not discharging. It is endless. We endlessly reasonable for a group that historically just lie up and get vaccinated. That's it now. The other take away here is that the vaccine requirements really work. The Pentagon shows that about ninety percent of the active duty forces vaccinated and seventy four percent of the total force, including reserves and the National Guard. That's significantly more than the general population. Of course it is made up of adult, so we're gonna make sure were comparing apples too

was so we're going to continue to see what happens elsewhere so far, just twenty seven people, and so on. But he telling you this is unpatriotic and weakening the military, its twenty seven people from the air force Army deadline is December, fifteenth there will be another deadline like the final final final deadline. Is the army national guard? That's not until June of twenty twenty two soda Are the latest numbers as we now under stand that remember we were told we may lose tens of thousands of service members here so far its twenty seven we were told we might lose a third of Nypd. It was what some type there was it ready for people or something along those lines. United Airlines, there's gonna be no flights. There's gonna be no nothing. Almost every he is vaccinated now at United Airlines. So it's really a too for at the end of the day, in the sense that you improve

the overall health of your personal. You reduce the risk that your personality going to contract covert and be second. Yeah, etc. But we're all So getting rid of some of the wacky is people. As we have said before, there is a problem. If you imagine a then diagram of police, we What, because of and other than they dont want the vaccine either use of force, not the types of people. We want an police that don't you, the vaccine, there's probably a lot of overlap. There were probably getting bat rid of a bunch of those bad apples by saying, if you won't get back vaccinated, you gotta go, I would suggest to you that it's the exact same thing when it comes to the military we disagree. Let me know we have not spoken about, oh a and for a while, okay, and is one american news, or sometimes it's o a an end. One. I can use network away and is sort of the crazy uncle to NEWS Max

which is already like the crazy uncle to Fox NEWS, Fox NEWS is hard right wing propaganda. News Max is extreme right wing propaganda, away and would sort of be like something, even insane I don't even know what crazier than use max with even worse production, value and anchors, whose google even more obviously to read the teleprompter I want to call your attention to a segment that yesterday on of this she's a blend of globalist? world government conspiracy theories, combined with straight up lies about how things work in the real world the end He vaccine absurdity has the new level on away at an this clip, we're gonna, hear from an anchor named Christina Bob. It's Bob with two bees at the

and be oh baby, she was visibly struggling to read the conspiracies off of the teleprompter. The whole segment the case she makes is that globally, globally, as Alex Jones would say, are getting ready to scrap the Nuremberg code in Europe, ignored to make covert vaccines mandatory for all now there are- maybe you think, one too like six or seven layers of dishonesty confusion in this segment. Let's look. the video listen to the video you'll notice that compared to this drivel NEWS Max almost seems measured. If you can believe it, let's take a look code, is about control and manipulating our physical bodies through the vaccine way, is one of the most humiliating and inhumane ways to demoralized person by depriving them control over their own bodies and subjecting men's to medical experiments. Its further

reason that the world created the Nuremberg Codes after world war. Two, we reckon is that medical experiments, concentration camps, mass murder and all the other atrocities that occurred during the war were inhuman. And should never be tolerated again, yet the European union leadership is now calling for throwing out the Nuremberg coat from a banner led. The head of the European Union. Commission has argued in Favor of throwing out the Nuremberg code ignore completely and allow countries. To force the vaccinate, anyone refusing to participate in the medical experiment, the global our going crazy and resorting to crazy methodology that most humans would not agree with, ignoring the Nuremberg coat. Why? Because they are losing it as they, like, resort to out themselves as the evil in human? tyrants that they are so

I mean listen, let let's just go line by line Right Cove. It is about controlling other people. No, it's not hope, is a pandemic and we're trying to get out of it said vaccines manipulate our physical bodies. This is the lines of they change your dna. They don't that's, not true, the vaccines are inhumane, there is no scientific basis for that assertion, axioms or a medical experiment know they are the reproof Emergency Use authorization and the Pfizer vaccine as full FDA opera. And then we get into like the really wacky stuff the Nuremberg codes were created to stop medical experiments. She says now, that's true. The Nuremberg codes work created after World WAR two and it does relate to human experimentation. just has no relevance to vaccines that have been approved at all European union is not calling for throwing out the Nuremberg code, and this is like The big lie Ursula.

VON Der Lion is the head of the European Commission and We recently said at a press conference the year paean unions, member states should encourage and they should think about making vaccines mandatory. Not you have to make the men Tori member states, meaning countries like Belgium, France, etc. They should think about mandatory vaccination. She didn't mention the Nuremberg code. She said thing about scrapping the Nuremberg code. She said think about allowing medical experimentation, explanation, has nothing to do with Nuremberg coat. This has enough. To do with globalists or globalism, This is not anything to do with the new world order, or one world government or anything like it. This is exactly how this stuff spreads think about the chain. Ursula vat by Vonder Lion said These countries should look at mandatory vaccination is then

reported on, falsely, as she sang get rid of the Nuremberg code, and then next thing. You know the EU once you re legalise now. See medical experiments it is how it built it one layer of propaganda built on another and or another. Have they no shame? No, they have. No shame, but this is about something much much worse and I don't expect this to end any time soon. Their claim is the left wants to keep us in the pandemic, ever to control. People understand that it is then in a way benefit from the pandemic. By being able to get clicks by spreading this nonsense day after day after day, so don't fall, for it. This is how it spreads and we're gonna have more on this, including at this clip on our Instagram. I hope you are following us there at David Pachmann Show and you can all

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going several layers deeper and deeper. Now there are increased, calls or Yvonne got trumps text messages to be obtained. Yvonne could trump, of course, the adult daughter of Donald Trump who advised him if you can imagine something more insane during the Trump administration, even sat in four Trump secretary of State at the g, eight or G20. I never remember which it is. The independent reports that there are calls issued for a bank is acts from January sixth be released. Why well because South Carolina Republican, Senator Lindsey Gram revealed events, Inga was a pass through two Donald Trump on that day, tat handed over so far from mark meadows, show that dont Junior was in touch with mark meadows, saying this Ex terrible. We looked at the tax yesterday and the day before, he's gotta go their he's gotta tell them to go home, etc, etc.

Graham has said he wasn't texting mark meadows but says he spoke to evaluate Trump and asked her send a message to Donald Trump saying. Tell the people to leave now, of course, that that has been revealed previously unknown that vodka was in the loop. Now there. Calls from a whole number of people, including Democrats and some Republicans too Yvonne. Could trumps text messages as well? So, first of all, should we see those texts? Yes, those have to be obtained will see if the House Committee is able to do. It number two The family dynamics that all of this is exposing are pretty room, workable. I mean Don Junior was texting, mark meadows to ask him to tell his dad to call off the stick terrorists on January sixth Lindsey was Lindsey. Gram was able to speak to a vodka who, I guess, could

get a hold of her dad for whatever reason dog Junior couldn't, but Vanka could and none. It's really surprising weather The reasons are what I've known about trumps relationships with his sons as compared to who is relationship with a banker which sometimes actually seem to go far and start bordering on a little bit creepy like when he said. If we weren't related, I would be dating Yvonne Gus, something like that. Maybe it has to do with is the strained relationship with the boys. It's all these and then the last thing that I think shouldn't be ignored. is whether it possible that the two Sudan Junior set to mark meadows might have been to create a cover innocence and creating some kind of paper trail we're done junior. You could say. No look I knew It was bad. I was,

an answer instigating or inciting at all. Look at what I texted mark meadows, maybe knowing that it would make no difference to is that one way or the other day the thing is Lindsey Grab, isn't always the most honest person either so everything he says we should take with the grain of salt. At the end of the day. I wish there was a chance that these people would actually face real consequences. I know yesterday, in our interview Michael told, were Michael Cohen, told me they will. I just don't see it. I just don't see it. The great thing is: whether these people are lying or telling the truth there, do seem increasingly willing to turn on each other to try to save themselves and that something that we need to take advantage of on the left. We're gonna talk about that, the war in the last segment today also, sleep anybody believe Jared cushions. Fingerprints are all over this thing. I think they clearly Arby's mostly. I stayed out of the discussion so far that that may change will have to wait

see this. You have to watch. We wonder why things happen, and then we see right wing media and then we realise why Fox news propagandist. Tucker and went on a rat last night in which he minimize what happened on January six, the day of the trunk brides, of course, but he also says in many ways the rioters were correct. They were correct and why they were there but the reasons he gives for why the rioters were correct. Our reasons none of the rioters actually knew about when they rioted on January. Sixth, I'm getting ahead of myself, I'm gonna get hurt and second, this is so upside down and backwards. It really requires almost like trapeze artists, contortion ism, to undertake to even explain what Tucker is doing. So, let's see what hocker says, and then we will talk about it. What was January six while there was destruction of property which were totally opposed to, but what motivated, why

people there will for the most part, a year later, it's very clear January six was essentially when it appeared to be thousands ordinary american citizens. Voters, people who believe that aren't democracy far more fervently than was changing ever has to Washington because they sincerely believe democracy been thwarted. They believe the central election was unfair and they have a right to believe that and by the way, in many ways they were correct. The present the action was unfair and you don't have anything? My voting machines to believe that consider them that we know as election day approach Verizon t, mobile and eighteen t shut down the trumps campaigns, ability to send text messages and then google- this has never even been reported, but it is widely known. Google prevented the trunk campaign from raising money over Gmail, there's no precedent for that. The trumpet

watching campaign lost millions in donation. That was the whole point of it, so the most powerful companies employ Earth heavily regulated by the government benefiting from government contracts swung behind Joe Biden and tried to stop Donald Trump, the sitting president in his tracks. Is that fair? Ok, so, let's, let's talk each each piece of that's true, they were regular people who thought democracy had been thwarted and since they believed democracy had been thwarted, they were right to be there stand that this isn't like self defence. If sincerely thought your life was at risk. You were able to legally use any force necessary if, even if life wasn't actually endanger, if you believed it, the fact that face fell for a consumer crazy theories about the election, I travelled to DC and fur low trumps directions and went to the capital and did all the stuff that doesn't make.

the innocent because they believed the election had been stolen, because this would even be the way to handle it. If that were true, now then too, slips in a pretty pretty slick, move which, as he says they, a right to believe that that's, a linguistic trick no one's denying that the writers have a right to believe the election was stolen. They have a right to leave. Joe Biden died ten years ago in its an electronic cyborg replacement. They have a right to believe whatever they want their not being charged for what they believe. Believing isn't a crime here, the charges are for the laws that they broke. So that's a red herring that Tucker throws it. But then the meat of this segment is Tucker introducing totally different reasoning for how they were correct. Woody mean they were correct. Well, Rise in T Mobile and eighty anti shut down trumps texting Tucker says: Google prevented from raising money over Gmail?

These items were not a factor in the rioters being there they weren't being discussed at the time. This is a post facto rationalization that Her has come up with. But more importantly, are those claims even true, and the answer is no. Unsolicited campaign texts to people who have an opted into them are legally. Dubious it's a murky area because sometimes camp It will say well, we have voted straighten data. They register to vote, and so they are people that are valid for us to target, whereas others say none and they haven't opted into your communications. You can't Texan and what happened this summer before the election was that the term campaign was clashing. With eighteen t, Verizon T mobile third part. Screening tools were flagging. Trumps, unsolicited text to people as spam, crumbs, campaign was arguing. We can send these. We are being silenced T Mobile Agency and rise in her saying unsolicited mass text aren't allowed and we have third party tools in place, the detect that it was a

murky legal area and the idea that this trumps campaign being silenced is just completely wrong. Lastly, Tucker said Google prevented from from raising money over Gmail. I couldn't even find in for me on that. The closest thing I found is that at the peak of the campaign, some of you who were on these lists might remember: The trunk campaign was sending out fundraising emails every ninety or a hundred and twenty minutes Eric Junior, Don trombone, neurons, Eric Don Junior trumpet need your money. We need your money, they appear to have started. Getting caught in Gmail spam filters. That's what happened and because of their frequency. They were going to spam and being blocked on that basis. Maybe there is more to that, but I have found no It is at all that Gmail blocked Trump from raising money- it seems they were sending such a high rate of email that its

the triggering the spam filters on Gmail. So not only is Tucker Wrong in that these warrant. The reasons the riders were their Tucker is wrong. That these things even took place lie upon distortion upon deception. Upon lie. One of our sponsors today is blue, chew a unique online service, delivering these same active ingredients as Viagra and see Alice Innate Shoe, obol form and at a fraction of the cost and Giving my audience and entire month supply for free. So if you think you could benefit from an extra boost of confidence, all you have to it was take a short quiz on their website. A licence doktor approves your prescription, the medical should come straight to your home within days in a discreet package, no driving around to the doctors officer, the pharmacy, no waiting around no conversations with your doktor, all of blue,

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on air that day and for weeks, downplaying the riots it might have been Antigua. It was be a lamb, it wasn't real from supporters. I didn't actually see any trump support. you're being violent as well as its own son and all of these, Fox news hosts doing that on that day, they knew it was terrible and they knew it was trumps problem and they were trying to get Trump on tv. To make a statement. Tell descend everybody home. It exposes that everything they did after the fact was just dishonest, clean up they knew exactly. Who was there that day and that it was. bad for Donald Donald Trump period. They knew it they light on tv to help. From no surprise it's been confirmed. Now all of the different factions are starting to go at each other because don't know how to manage this. Last night, Sean Hannity, one of the people implicated in this entire fiasco, had a segment where he invited on her, although Rivera and this

total right when not Dan Bonn GINO, who just and trump always in forever. There there's no situation whereby Angina want defend tromp and her, although even though he was attacked supporter is a friend of prompt whatever her, although surely stands up sort of four, what's right and says to Hannity: listen, because handed, is continuing to downplay the riots he says this was a riot. Was inspired by Trump supporters period. Hannity tries to interrupt her almost as wait. A second shun think, back to when you send those texts. Think back to your frame mind when you realized these. Are I'm pissed doing this and this is violent, and this is terrible and you texted mark meadows, think back to that and fungi no just loses it on her. Although check this out of the obvious difference between the riot that happen January six than the five hundred odd that you could let me cite as concerning and and and damage

to America to our psyche turn around. physical well being is that this was a riot that was unleashed inside it, spired by the President of the United States, which targeting or otherwise of american democratizing didn't say now you get that target Henry? Madam president, please let me know now: stop the press. Said, peacefully, patriotically March, that capital that European, I only want to go down that road. That's not the question tonight. The core is this corrupt committee? The question this right and not five hundred and seventy four other rights, the question is: is there any privacy in this country anymore, or did they to release thousands more of individual private citizens tax, I beg you Sean to remember the of mine Urim. When you wrote that text on January six I went Laura did Brian did, I wonder Junior, did remember that

concern. You remember the the press straight. Our beloved forty pit, President because you're not compound and killing this. Why doesn't say something? Why and even if you want the point is not new saw unfolding before you he's unfolding before our very eyes and attack on democracy given that they have on the constitution of showing that, at a time when they did not at all united taking peacefully, and then he did God, damn you have less than a minute or run on time a rather what we ve been arguing about this forever. The back stabbing the president during gauging it is really disgusting. It's really vile that you pretend to be reserved to tighten resent that high something hoarded he trod on time, learning transit until me back and, let me know Marthy, let me leave abandoned lettish results and european law

Peace with Iraq's oil of american people. You hurt, nobody can hear you leave it. There are new stab in the back. You heard. Thank you. Thank you. so, it's not back stabbing its telling the truth, her all those saying nothing controversial. It was I'm pissed riot shine, Hannity, knew it and texted mark meadows at the time to try to stop it. and now he's playing a completely different version, Events on tv day, the day out. That's really like there's no more story and handed poles in Bonn, GINO to run interference and their starting to just go after each other. Her all is no sage right, when her. All, though, is the voice of reason. You know things have gotten a little bit wacky, but this is what you want to see this coming He has already done so much good in all that it exposed and all these people are more than willing to go after each other to save themselves. Remember that

if Republicans had just gone along with the original committee. It is far less likely that all This same damaging information would have come out. Why do I say that, while the origin, our committee idea was I believe these are the right numbers. Five Democrats, five republicans, they would send out subpoenas. The subpoenas would to be signed off on not only by the democratic chair of the committee but by the republic, Vice chair of the committee it was owing to be truly a committee that was not just going to have Carte Blanche to go fishing wherever they want Republic and I'm not saying that. That's what it is now, but Republicans said we're not going to participate, were protesting. This entire thing, We are also looking into you know the shooting of Steve Gullies. Four years ago, whenever I we want to participate so

people those who found some Republicans willing to be on it with Chinese on an atom kins anger is on. I dont remember if there's any other Republicans, but at least the two of them and now you have a situation in which they buy virtue, of Republican saying were basically opting out of this thing and at least at the party level we dont supported, even if you found a couple of our people to be on this committee, Now they are actually doing really good work and exposing incredible things. There was a powerpoint for the coup. All these people months have been doing media saying it wasn't what it was on that I knew exactly what it was and we're texting mark, meadows and saying: please help to stop it, so its excellent that the committee is doing this. Its exact we, the type of inciting in fighting and bedlam, that we want to see within the Republican Party, Bonn GINO Hannity Rural, though have a while fighting that's exactly what we want. They will turn on each other to protect themselves. That's abundant clear, if you say hey there,

I was inspired by Trump which obviously it was they accuse their own of back stabbing and her although is or was a trumpet Sabena, makes it clear even in that segment. The difference is that amity and Bonn. Gino we'll never admit that trumpeted anything wrong her, although will admit it and he'll still say user was my friend and I did or do support him it takes nearly eighty year old her, although Rivera to appear we realise that what took place on January sixth was not just partisan bickering or a rally. It was something much darker and much more sinister, and hopefully this level of chaos continue Kyle written House. We knew that written house was going to be lionize and made into a hero after he was acquitted in the killing of two people and shooting of a third Canosa Wisconsin, and it is. Happening exactly as predicted

some of you Republicans who watch wrote to me and they said David in and you said David. You know the vote. It was the right one, but no He's gonna make a hero out at this kid, because, ultimately, what happened is a tragedy, and I said no, no, no! No, they're going to make a hero out of this kid, and it's happening first, he got his media around. He got to meet Donald Trump. He was interviewed by Tucker Karlsson, he was invited here he was invited they're everywhere at the end of the day, Even if you believe that what Kyle written House did was legally justifiable as self defence, which many people on the left do- and I said the way the laws or written and based on the evidence not guilty? Is the cook the Pope Correct verdict, because it is totally plausible that he. for his life in a situation he never should have been in into which it raised himself, I said not guilty, is what follows that the way the law is written, but what he did was the horror something to celebrate here. It was a failure.

Of parenting. It was a failure of gun culture. It was a failure of militia culture, vigilante culture, all of these horrible things that plague the United States There's nothing to celebrate here, but now I'll written houses quite literally being held up as a hero whose actions should be celebrate, and latest instalment. Is this speakership he's going to be a speaker at this completely outrageous that held by right wing group, turning point USA called America FEST twenty one in Phoenix Arizona I just miss it? I've been in Arizona the last two weeks. I we Friday the event Saturday, really a shame her and the key can. I have is what is there for him to speak about like how to kill people and get away with it. It's me on the sickening and again, even if you think he is legally not guilty as he was found. What is there to celebrate here

What is there to learn from him other than you? Two could insert your off into a situation? You have no business in and get it with killing to people like. Is that the lesson from Kyle written houses story? There is none here other than of personality and disk Accordingly, they are celebrating it and In so doing they are celebrating the killing two. There is really no way around it, because there's no other substance there's nothing there, and then problem, there's a number of problems with this, but one Questions that comes up is If we celebrate the fact that is and year old? Did this? What a sixteen year old. what about a fifteen year old? What about twelve your old with good trigger discipline, as they love to sail where is the end with this? Maybe I'm wrong and he'll show up and talk about how he's looking for, to a career in nursing as we,

often heard during the trial, but somehow I don't. I don't think so and I genuinely don't understand what on earth he would. He would speak like what's his open, what is the body of his each, and I can only imagine that he's getting paid for this. If you can imagine that, although Maybe not the one thing that makes me sit. Think maybe not, as I was invited onto Charlie Kirk, show a little while ago travelled didn't work out and they We had the gall to say we're a nonprofit, so we don't pay anybody for appearances and speaking and knowledge I don't know if they tell Kyle Rittenhouse same thing, maybe he probably has a different status within. when you say than I do, but they actually for for me, and a few others I know, there's it now, we're word on profit, we're nonprofit, so weak. We can't pay you to appear. So Rittenhouse being made exactly out to be the hero that we predicted. They would. How long this rift run. I actually It runs that long. I think it's like a couple years

Maybe it's something that he can use to keep the great gravy train coming for a long period of time. We have a voice mail number that is too one nine to David P. Are you can call any time. You is a really interesting question about some of the coverage. I've done of things Joe Rogan has said recently. The collar is asking? Why are another people on the left doing similar coverage in interesting topic? Let's listen, hey David for thought. You train of the show one think I'd like to view a shadow. issue being able to call out other people like your Rogan, such a more powerful than yourself, and one thing: that's really don't bother me a lot of people on the latter money. We call them the so called laughed, but I know story avoid criticising people like you're Rogan, En Gb Door

and then when they are called out, aren't they say? Well, oh, you know on personal friends with them. She have to understand that it is uncomfortable about it. It's like part of me she was coming from, but look man I work and grossly struck burst like here to have a code it if you think I didn't have to call out friends. Why, no way longer than on any of these people. Like me, George, I really welcome partner. Like ten years, I have worked with these people like that far more uncomfortable than talk we gonna work, nature like people saying like all you know, you don't understand. It's uncouple argued on. The first went to sea ass, uncomfortable I've had to do it in way more uncomfortable circumstance and like look desert once every hundred european direct. This is important. I hope those people still like me yesterday I don't care you know year end and the color goes on a bit

can't really speak too. Why anybody else does or doesn't do criticism of anything in particular, yes and those people write to me and those David. Why haven't you said anything about this, or that is sometimes I just don't have anything to say about it. I will tell you that there are people when I've done segments critical of the things Joe Rogan has said about whatever of covert related backs means ever met in whatever I will get messages from other host sang think it was really great that you did that actually and they don't say why they are or aren't. You know what why they're not doing it themselves in many cases, and I dont ask but everybody's gotta make whatever decision is right for that we know Joe Romans a guy. Have I met twice and of exchange, some messages with, and I think that a lot of things. He is interesting incites. I think, he's gotten a lot of things just flat wrong uncovered and stand that. I think that his audience is falling for things that are wrong. I'll do my best to corrected in a respectful way and, as I said before,

no idea, whether Romans even aware of the fact that I've done that coverage if he is, and like it and never wants to have me back on. That may be the case if he he has no idea that I've done it, but I would go and talk to him about it in person. I mean really for me this is not a personal thing, I'm seeing what's being said, who has audiences that are listening, and if I feel that it has to be good. did I do it. That's my view and then you put aside the personal stuff a we have. Eight bonus show for you today. Coronel has shut down its ethical campus after major Oh mccrone signs have been found while at the same time we are getting better looking information about the severity of Alma Kron, which will be will talk about Biden is set to surpass Donald Trump in First year judicial nominees, which is a big deal. This was one of trumped, big accomplishments, judges and Joe Biden is set to surpass trump for that first year we will all.

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