However, producer Pat Board here, filling in for David Pachmann on another setting edition of the David Pachmann, show fear not David he's going to back on Monday, but for today, at least on this Christmas Eve edition of the show. You are all stuck with me, but that's ok. Going to talk about a lot of interesting. Stop we're gonna talk about build back, better regret. about your man chamber, gonna talk about on Crown and the latest cupboard surge. So let's get right into the news. As we know this week, Joe Mansion effectively killed the build back better legislation in its current Well, I'm the one point: nine trillion dollar social spending plan is not going to get past this year and it's not going to get past in its current form. Mansion went on Fox NEWS Sunday with

right there- and he told him- look, I'm just not going to support this thing. So as of now it's dead in the water chief among them, genes reasons for opposing the bill. Where that he believed it would add to the national debt, he believed it would further accelerate these. Of inflation in the United States- and he just gave this general sentiment of look were- were spending much money as it is right now. We can't possibly afford to spend any more so some of this economic fearmongering stuff that we will often here from the central and the right wing of this country, of course, depending on the circumstances, while Goldman Sachs ran the numbers, and they found that actually now passing bill back better is going to cost the? U S economy, money, because the spending plan would infuse sixty

billion dollars into the gross domestic product. A team of economists, like old men, predicted that the? U S, GDP would grow three percent in the first quarter of twenty twenty two with bill back better were passed three point: five percent in the second quarter, another three percent in the third quarter of twenty twenty two: that again, if build back there, was signed into law this here now the estimate, without the spending plan in place because they read the numbers, is that two percent is going to be the rate of growth for the first quarter. Three percent is going to be the real growth for the second quarter and two point: seventy five percent in the third. Quarter of twenty twenty two and when you lineup all those numbers, you compare the percentages. You run the raw numbers. The differences add up to six. billion dollars and economic losses for the first three quarters of twenty twenty two, and, of course it's probably going- you add up to a lot more than that, because only counting for the first three quarters of the year.

You see the impacts of bill back better, going to extend far beyond twenty twenty two. Now, of course, we have to include some caveats here like, for example, just because not going to get the one point: nine trillion dollar legislation. There is a good chance that we get something done right. Maybe he'll be five hundred billion, maybe you'd be a trillion. Maybe it'll be one point: five trillion dollars. We just don't yet. No at the time who is going to be, and we don't know what provisions are going to get past yet and unfortunately it seems to be really up to mention in what he wants to do, but will probably see some boost to the GDP numbers compared to those more conservative estimates. Second of all, you can never fully predict what the U S economy is going to You sometimes we hear estimates from financial institutions or government agencies about what we expect job number. To be or what we expect the stock market to be at months down the line years down the line, and it's always just a guess. I mean you- can make an educated guess, certainly, but you never know until it it actually happens. You can't fully predict. Do you

economy in what is going to do, but these estimates let me do seem to jive with the reality of the economy and what we know about demand side stimulus, because we think about it. If you go to these different visions and the bill. One of the key provisions is extending the child tax credit three thousand dollars or three thousand six hundred dollars, depending on the age of the child's per year, her child. It works out so that if people have this extra money in their pocket there going to be able to spend it on, like going out to dinner growing on vacation or birthday presence or whatever the case may be? And this can be said about the other provisions to right, because people can see. save some money on the cost of elder care or child air or health care costs or prescription drug cost, and so at that money. People can go out and participate in the economy and it can be economically Emulated, so I understand why the conservative argument will sometimes when the day, because you seem so intuitive right, like we just don't, spend them

That means that we're going to save the money but is actually quite the opposite in that's exactly what these Goldman Sachs numbers show us, and we of course know that Republicans are going to make this argument. We know that they lie to fear monger about inflation and spending in the debt and deficit. Of course, they only do that when a Democrat. Is in charge, they dont care. So much about these things when a Republican is in the White House, we saw that last year Donald Trump compared to Joe Bite, this year. I mean these. These things like inflation and spending they were going on under the trap administration last year. Only now do they care about these things. Boats of setting, that someone who is supposed to be a Democrat Joe Mansion. He also buys into these talking points and, ultimately, that's going to harm the people of West Virginia and it's going to You harm the country as a whole because it's going to cost the? U S economy, billions dollars going into next year. For months, their Bernie Sanders. You know, em, you love him. He is not giving up on build back better

because Joe Mansion is giving up on it and in fact Bernie is ready to bring the fight to mansion and bring it to mansions home state of West Virginia, it's easy for some of us to say well, look. We have a fifty fifty Senate right now and shocks. What are we going to do? You have to split control and Democrats were not going to get ever that we want, because you have to appeal to the most conservative members of the party, like your jaw. Mansions in your in cinemas, so ultimately will get sums that we want. But not everything will Bernie. You saying I'm not going to take that approach. I'm going to stay. In the way here, I'm goin to do so by making sure that West Virginia voters know exactly why they can't get all of these different favourable provisions like the trial tax credit and the elder and child care and universal preschool and so much more They can't get all that stuff because of their own senator Democrat Joe Mansion, Bernie

on CNN state of the union this week with Jake Tapir, and he proposed the idea of CNN paying for a pole asking residents what they think of all the different components of build back better and then as he thought about it. He said you know what screw it I'm going to pay for the damn Paul. Let's take it the video. If senator managing, were here, he would say my state is state that voted overwhelmingly for Donald Trump. What I'm doing in going after in opposing this legislation will be popular and mansion has said he thinks the old all this money. He saying all this money, those gonna build their she's gonna make inflation worse. I took, but let me talk about children. Should voted for a huge increase in military spending. Man should voted for an infrastructure bill which had a two hundred and fifty billion dollars, so the deficit

The truth of the matter is that if you look at the military budget, seven hundred seventy billion times that by ten years it is four times higher than what the bill back. That plan is now Miss the mansions has he's representing the people of western doing. Ok, why don't you do a pull it see, and I do a pole and you ask the people what's the junior, whether or not they want to lower the costs the prescription drugs. You asked them whether they want to expand Medicare to cover dental hearing and eye glasses. You ask whether they want to continue the three hundred dollar payment to help working parents in these very difficult times bring up their kids with dignity. Ask that they want to deal with climate change All of those issues, I suspect people of West Virginia, like every other state in this country, will say: yes do the right thing for working Is there? Isn't I challenge? You know I told mentioned by the way I'll pay for the damn pole in West Virginia on those issues, see other people.

Virginia feel I like that. So Bernie Sanders he wrote the damn bill having to do with medical care for all and now help for the damn Paul having to do with build back better, so Bernie is really getting assertive there and, of course, Bernie is right. now, if you asked voters in conservative trumps supporting West Virginia, do you support Joe Biden one point: nine trillion dollar social spending plan- you're, probably not going to get favourable results. I doubt you get fifty percent support just being honest there, that's the reality, but like what Bernie points out, if you go provision by provision- and you ask people, do you support lowering prescription drug prices? Do you support expanding Medicare? Do you support a child tax credit and all these different things? Of course people are going to say yes to all those different things, because They are indeed popular. It doesn't matter whether you ask people in liberal California or conservative West Virginia people are going to say that they, like all that different stuff

This is by the way, exactly what we saw when it came to the affordable care act years ago. If you pull people back then- and you said okay, do you want people a young people to be able to stay on their parents, health care coverage until they turn twenty six? people would say. Yes, if you ask people whether or not they think that businesses with more than fifty employees should be able to should, should have to offer health insurance their workers, people would say yes and if you ask people whether or not they think that health insurance companies should be able to deny coverage to discriminate based on pre existing conditions, would say no, but then, if you said okay well, do you support Obamacare people would say now. I dont pay not realising that the Asia did all of those different things so bright is exactly right here that poor conducted in West Virginia on all of the different build back better provisions. It would probably do really well there, but it of course depends on how you ask the questions, and this is also not the fur,

time that Bernie has tried to pressure Joe Mention in this way. If not the first time, it has tried to do it on build back better. Specifically, a couple of months ago, Bernie wrote in up ad in the Charleston Gazette Mail, which is a West Virginia based newspaper, any argued for the social spending bill which back then was actually Morley. Three trillion dollars a lot smaller. Now, because Democrats caves to the most serving members of their party like Mansion Cinema. They reduced it by about a trillion dollars at the time. It was a lie bigger and it seems like Bernie, hiding that operate really got under Joe Mansion skin, and he said it was because, while we have this outer state are telling us what we should do here Must Virginia, but I think it really true. Got under Joe Mansion skin because he knew that Bernie Sanders was right here, and this is what we gotta do. This is playing hardball and it's exactly what Bernie should be doing. Biden should be doing the exact same thing. Do some speeches must Virginia meet with people their talk about how build back better,

would materially improve their lives, get on the phone with Joe Mansions office? Obviously you keep it respectful and give mansion the room to change his mind with some dignity, but make it clear that his job security could be put at risk if he decides not to support the legislator ok, one more story having to do with Joe Mansion killing the build back better legislation. This week we have to talk about how this blood was actually proven. Right and centrist. Democrats were proven wrong, at least when it comes to one important aspect of all. This few weeks ago when the physical infrastructure deal was. debated there were some for all members of Congress. The progressive Democrats specifically who urged how Speaker Nancy Policy and Senate Majority leader Chuck humour to couple the infrastructure deal with the multi trillion dollar spending bill, build back better and indeed, for a few weeks, those too elsewhere, coupled couple together, and the idea was that match Some of these other centres. Democrats, there sure

SL on physical infrastructure. They definitely want to see that get past, but when it comes to the multi trillion dollar spending plan, we just can't trust them. They seem to be changed their minds you know we just don't off there sure. Yes, eventually, Nancy Pelosi decided to cave to the moderates in the party and they decided to separate the two bills and biting gave her Stamp of approval to do so saying that we are going to be able to assure that show. Mansion is going to vote yes on both pieces of legislation, so Joe Biden, he essentially gave us his word on that, but the school they were buying it. So when it came time to actually vote on the infrastructure deal in November, most of the congressional Progressive caucus they decided to vote. Yes, Primula Jaya, Paul, Katy, Porter, Oconnor and bunch of other familiar names but disquiet at the sick squad members, they held firm and they voted no Jamal Bowman, Corey, Bush, Alexandria, Cassio tears. Johan Omar, I oughta Presley and proceeded to leap

I voted, no, not because they don't want to see infrastructure get past, that's actually quite the opposite. They definitely are in support of revamping american infrastructure, but they viewed this as the best bargaining chip that they had for making sure that both of the bills got past the physical infrastructure and the so called human infrastructure and at the time there was a sentiment among many Democrats that was like look, let's get infrastructure done, Biden hasn't had a cigar the current legislative achievement in a while, maybe not since the Corbett Stimulus plan was passed back in March and we all Dont know we're going to be able to in the long term. Maintain this sixty vote threshold that we need in the Senate to get this path because he really can't trust. Republicans like me. no decide they don't want support this thing any the idea was: let's get it done now. We'll get this round of positive press coverage about the interest extra deal and then, before the end of the year, will get build back. Better done through budget reconciliation and that will prompt another round of positive media,

aboriginal be viewed as yet another accomplishment for Joe Biden and the Democrats. Obviously that did it play out and the squad was right to question mansions willingness to go along with the rest of the party. We actually have a video now of Formula Jaya, Paul talking too many Hassan about everything that went on and she maintains that she has no regrets and all of this, but I sort of doubt that let's take a look at it, then we'll come back. How do you feel about that, and I do feel that Joe Biden, let you down, and you feel you got play by Jo Mention. No and now we are either for the weeks and days going up to the vote in the house, everybody every day of counted. I would be if I got a penny for every time. Somebody said to me this is not

happen. You all have given up everything we gotta done in the house. Now, I'm in the same place in saying that we are getting grenades rolled it s all the time we have to pick him up. We have to put the pin back in and we have to continue to focus on the fact that this is gonna be rocky. We can't hang are you know our commitments and our hopes on the words of one senator or to senators. We have to continue to work, to get it done and the vast majority that is done, and so I was on the phone with centres humor today the White House, and I, leave. We will still get it done, it's gonna be rocky and we just have to continue. leave no space in the in the commitment to getting it down and listen. The presents word is on the line here I do still believe that he is going to do what he told me and what he told our caucus and what he told the country. He would do.

Had we not done what we had done, the living doesn't convict any what was up and if he doesn't, Now we're gonna. Do it we're going to do it on the leverage that you had, your critics would argue was lost when you voted for beef. I just wonder, do regret? Voting for the best deal now in hindsight, given its now months later, German is nowhere closer to signing off and one point. Seven five trillion No, I don't regret it because I think our leverage was at the maximum point. On the other side of the coin, we have one of the squad. Members EO see tweeting about this saying quote when a handful of us in the house warned this would happen if democratic leaders gave mansion everything he wanted. First by moving Biff, that's the by partisan infrastructure framework before build back better, instead of passing together many ridiculed our position, maybe they'll believe us next time or maybe people will just keep calling us now Eve and, unfortunately, given the establishment Democrats track record on

all of this and when it comes to them, trying to listen to progressives it'll, probably be the second one of those two options there and they'll probably just keep getting calls naive, but there is a counter arguments who all this, though, have to consider as well, and it is a strong one, which is that, even if the entire progressive caucus held firm and they prevented the infrastructure deal from getting past House, and they made sure that it was only going to happen in one piece of legislation. The two bills had to be put together, and that was it. Are we sure that your mansion would have actually voted for it like? The argument is that he would right because he supports the infrastructure. Deal in West Virginia desperately needs new infrastructure, but he justice easily could have done the same exact thing here. He could aside. He now I like some pieces of this legislation. I like the infrastructure stuff, but there are members of my part, we're trying to poison pill it with all this other nonsense- and there is this opportunity to make this bill by partisan,

progressives, are ruining that opportunity. So I just can't support this bill in any form. That also could have happened at all so is a legitimate possibility and then progressives at the end they they look bad because they are the ones who are blamed for not allowing infrastructure to pass when even some centrist republicans are willing to do it, and you have the remainder of the Democratic Party in support of its What we know for now is that the squad was definitely right not to trust Joe Mansion, not to trust his word, because his word means nothing but whether or not we actually would have been able to get both of these things passed by the end of the year that remain uncertain and, to be honest, I guess we'll never, truly, no, it's sort of on false viable in a sense because it really just comes down to what your man she's thinking at any particular day and that's, unfortunately, what we have to deal with so that

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The dominant strain here in the: U S, with an estimated seventy to eighty percent of current cases being attributed to the variant. Of course, the speculation when it comes to democracy is that it's a lot more contagious. Yes, but not nearly as severe that lesson your part were not totally sure about- will know for sure- hopefully in the next couple of weeks or so something to talk more about that later. But let's take a look at the case. Chart looking at the case chart back in the spring of twenty twenty we what looks like a tiny wave there, which is actually deceptive, because it was hard to come by tests during that time the numbers were probably a lot. You're crazy than the graph shows. But of course these are confirmed cases we had this wave and spring a twenty twenty and then we, a small wave in the summer of twenty twenty, mainly because it places like Texas in Florida. There are places like knowing

at that time that we're doing just fine, but there are other parts of the country not doing so well in the summer of twenty twenty by the winter of twenty twenty into two thousand and twenty one. We had this just out of control giants spike, topping out at about two hundred and fifty thousand to three thousand cases per day, but then, as the weather, warmed up and more importantly, as people got vaccinated, because this is a time that vaccines became available. We went back to super low numbers and many of us thought that in May June July of this year that this all could be over with soon. But then we got ensue

the late summer. There is another way of then which calmed down by October and now, unfortunately, were heading back up. Seeing about a hundred fifty thousand issue new cases a day, and the question is how high we're going to go retiring and Age Director Frances Collins is predicting that things could get as bad here as one million new cases a day. One million and that's just based on how contagious alma crime is now looking at the death numbers, were seeing a slight uptake so far from the October valley. Getting around fifteen hundred deaths a day.

But, as we know, debts tend to lack cases by a few weeks. So are we not seeing a major surge yet in the death numbers, because all mccrone isn't nearly as deadly or is it because just not enough time has passed yet and because people are getting infected with the now, we could possibly see the surge in deaths in the next couple of weeks. We just don't know yet. Another key point is that, even if we do find em across to be less deadly than previous strains, that's how can I help as all that much if we're seeing a million cases a day like, even if the rate is somewhat low, foreseeing that many cases there still going to be thousands and thousands of people who die from this every single day and it could be says bad overall as the big way that we saw in the winter of last year. So that's one important thing to consider now. Obviously, we know that vaccination is our best way to protect against infection, but especially against severe Kobe in death, and that's why some cities are joining cities like

York in LOS Angeles and now requiring proof of vaccination to do into our activities. And so because of endocrine we're, seeing some cancellations that we arguably haven't seen since the start of the pandemic. So let me run through you a list of cancellations that we ve seen over the past week or so, and I am sure that this list is going to be attitude. Over the coming days, Broadway shows have now closed their doors through Christmas week. The ball drop in times we'll go on, but it's going to be scaled back with masks required for those in attendance. The world economic forum scheduled for Dabble Switzerland has been postponed until the summer. I'm sure most many other conferences follow soon company, shutting their doors to non essential workers include CNN Apple, Google, uber, lift and Ford universities shut down their campuses early for the remainder of the semester, included Cornell, and why you and Princeton and then in terms of travel Israel, France,

in the Netherlands, closed their borders to more countries and added more travel restrictions when it comes to sports, the NFL decided to move some games around the NBA decided to postpone a few of their games. In the end, I shall, as may be being the most strictly decides, put a pause on games until after Christmas, and also they have decided to pull out of the winter Olympics in Beijing. China, because of the search so we'll have to wait and see whether or not these decisions makes sense. I think the sentiment is well you'd rather be safe than sorry. Let's see, if cases reach a peak anytime soon, if they do reach a peak. What see where that peak exactly is, but the numbers right now they're just not going in the right direction and what worries us actually now is that we are about to see families get together for Christmas were about to see friends get together for New year's celebrations, and so there is definitely a whole lot of reasons to be cautious now about alma, Kron and cabotage

So to recap the homage cranberry is now wreaking havoc throughout the: U S in the rest of the world and were now seeing at least a hundred thousand new cases of covert every single they hear in the: U S with estimate showing that it could get a lot worse, but there are some people suggesting that. There's no reason to worry, because, yes, while on the crime is quite contagious and we may see a lot of infections, it's not going to be very deadly, we're not going to see a big spike in death numbers and the evidence that people based that off of is the fact that we have this data out of South Africa, where the varying is believed to have originated, and it just wasn't all that deadly there. Well, there's this great peace now in Pr highlighting that what we saw in South Africa may not actually match up with what we're going to see here in the? U s. We certainly hope that it does. We certainly hope that there is not this big spike in the death numbers, but we just we don't know for sure. We can't exactly bank on that. A study of South Africa with two hundred thousand covered positive participants about a quarter of whom had serious

lying health conditions was underway between September and November of this year. So that's the tail. of the delta wave along with the beginning of the army. Conway researchers found that is time on and on mccrone became dominant. There was a thirty percent drop in hospitals nations from this pool of people with the Corbett cases, the rate of hospitalization for a crime was quite low, is only fifty eight per one thousand, which is the lowest of the four coded waves that the country has experienced, since this all started two years ago, believe it's been that long, not only that instances of patients needing oxygen or ventilation dropped, and I see you stays went out to only thirteen percent from where it was at thirty percent. Also people recovered a lot quicker than in the previous weight. So there you go right, we're going to be just fine here. Well, maybe, let's, let's hold our horses here, because the key variable is that the data did not take into account previous exposure to

the virus, and many of these cases were re infections with South Africa believed to have a much higher level of community than we have here in the United States. Now the vaccination rates in South Africa there quite it lower. Only about one in four South Africans had been vaccinated by the time that Alma Kron hit, but the vast majority of residence in South Africa had so called natural immunity having had a previous version of kroner buyers so between previous infections anymore, people who are vaccinated and South Africa, there were just a few people statistically left who hadn't been exposed to either the virus, or vaccine. Nearly everyone in this undiscovered pull that they looked at had some version of immunity, and we know that when you get home for a second time or when you get it after having been vaccinated, symptoms aren't nearly as bad. The death counts aren't nearly as bad and you're. Recovery time is generally live, figure so keen understanding this may be to figure out the number of,

people in the? U S, with no previous exposure to covered or the vaccine and will have to see we have to wait and see how this is going to affect them. As of now about step. Two percent of Americans have been vaccinated, fully vaccinated with the two doses and an estimated twenty percent of Americans have been infected with covert since the start of the pandemic. Tarts believe it's only twenty percent, I think a lot higher than that number now. Obviously, there's going to be some cross over between these two groups of people, because some forgot, vaccinated and then later got a breakthrough case covered there's also people who got covert early on and then later got back vaccinated. So you can't just like that the two numbers and income up with your ear overall immunity number, but when you actually crunch the nuts when you do it appropriately, it turns out that twenty percent of Americans that sixty six million people have no immunity at all, and that leaves plenty of people who could potentially get a serious case depending

really on how severe alma cron is and again we just don't know yet, so we can be off the mystic about the variant, but we have to be cautiously optimistic and the best way to do that is too obviously observe the normal protocols where the mask socially distance get vaccinated if you're eligible get the booster shot. If you can, I just got my booster shot a couple days ago, wasn't feeling so great yesterday, but I got over the side effects in about a day or so do all the right things make sure that we don't just throw caution to the wind here and make sure that we observe the right protocols and hopefully alma crime does not turn out to be so bad, but we just don't know for sure. Yet we're going to go to a break will be back with much much more on the David Pachmann shall read after this. Don't forget that the best way to support the David Pachmann Show is by becoming a member which gives you access to the daily bonus, showed the regular show with no commercials. You also get access to our entire archive of every episode dating back

a really long time and plenty of other awesome. Membership perks, go to join pachmann dot com and use the coop on code, better twenty one for a huge discount join pachmann, dotcom everybody, producer, Pat here, bringing you some holiday cheer on this Christmas eve. Let's get back into the new story, starting with this one, about the twenty twenty four presidential race, a new Paul fines. A majority of Americans, don't want to see Donald Trump Run for president again, but also a majority of Americans, didn't want to see Joe Biden run for president again either. The pole comes to us from echelon insights, and the results are that fifty five percent of respondents don't want to see. Donald Trump seek the presidency again in twenty twenty four and that's great news right, but also statistically just as many fifty four percent of respondents, they say that they don't want to see Joe Biden run again as well. Now, on the approval side, when you flip the question and ask, do you want trumped one run,

won't bite into run. Their does seem to be more support for Trump running that Biden. Thirty nine percent give Trump the go ahead, whereas only thirty four percent say the same thing about bite it. So the question is years out from the next presidential race. Is this cause for concern for Democrats? I think part of this is that Americans are saying they want to see New faces, you know- have Trump runs again. This will be his third attempt he's been nonstop in the political atmosphere ever since twenty fifteen. in he's, been in the Senate forever, and then he was vice president. He ran a bunch of different presidential campaigns and then, of course, now he is the president. So you know it just time to see some new people here were sort of sick of these guys and we all want to see an exact repeated, the twenty twenty election after All- and part of this also is the fact that they are quite up there in age, right of trumpets, elected and twenty twenty four he's going to

seventy eight by the time is elected and eighty two by the time he leaves office and Joe Biden gets reelected he's going to be eighty two at the start of his second term and eighty six by the time that he's out of office- and we know that, of course, people now our living longer lives these days, and you can have elderly people who are capable of doing the job, but some may say eighties, that's kind of pushing it. Maybe we need some younger blood in there, but I think really comes down to at the end of the day. The most important factor in all of this is that the hard core trump people who make up somewhere between thirty five to forty percent, unfortunately the country. They want him, no matter what right they don't care about TED crews, they don't care about. Now. he Hayley. You know. Maybe Rhonda Santa's oak but only as a backup option if trumped doesn't want to run, and so that's I'd think why we're seeing the numbers show that thirty, nine percent of people say they do want trump to run. Those are the hard core trump supporters, whereas there's people who support job

in, but they dont have the same sort of culture personality view of him right biting doesn't have the sort of appeal that trumped does among his base of soup. Orders, I bides approval rating right now is in the low to made forties, which is not great. It's also not terrible, but the number I want to see him again is again thirty, four percent, which is substantially lower than what his approval numbers out. So that suggests to me that there is a good one People who are saying yeah like what binds doing but he's replaceable right like if you give us calmly Harris. If you give us people judge or Elizabeth Warren or whoever else would like them to because the end of the day, it's more about the cause than the person and then also in addition, you don't have to worry about the. age factor, you don't have to worry about age or fitness, or anything like that. So that's might take. Play. The Trump people are wrapped up in the cult of Trump in the Biden, people don't care about Biden specifically, they just want to move the causes forward and I think there's a real

question. Whether Biden will run again mainly because of the age factor. I think that if he chooses not to run again. Obviously there will be a primary the democratic field. There is a possibility, that Common Harris being the vice presidential court. She gets that coronation treatment that Hillary Clinton got back in twenty sixteen, hopefully doesn't happen, and hopefully we get some progressive challenges in there to make it not so easy to fight for her. But ultimately, if Biden chooses to run again, you'll get the Domini I think tromp is definitely running again. Also, I mean he's dropping all these, hence as to how he's going to launch another campaign and know some people like Michael when, for example, he sang in including on the show you said, I don't think that Trump is going to run again because he's terrified of losing for a second time. He doesn't want to be seen as a time loser and the excuse of voter fraud if he does lose

isn't going to work again, but I just don't buy that like a first of all, I think that if Trump does run again he's going to have a substantial chance at winning, I think he's actually going to get better odds of winning than he did in twenty sixteen or two thousand and twenty If he does lose, then he'll just tell his voters who ya was voter fraud in there already prime to believe the voter fraud stuff bill just say like okay? Well, they got us again. Those Democrats rigging there elections. So you know I don't think Trump is really worried about anything. There is sort of a I win tells you lose sort of scenario where either he wins the presidency or be just says once again that he got cheated bottom line is most Americans don't want to see tromp run again, most Americans don't wanna, see and run again, and yet there is still a halfway decency. that we see yet another Trump Biden match up a repeat of the last election cycle in twenty twenty four in order since we started hearing about the labour shortage situation here in the U S, there's been so much blame to go around. Some people like to blame

lazy millennials. Other people like to blame the Joe Biden administration. Other people like to blame. Poor people who are just unwilling to get a job, and you know there's been this idea that, because of the boosted unemployment benefits, that meant that many people were just one willing to get a job, they wanted to just stay home and live off of government resources. The same was said about the stimulus checks with the idea that okay? Well, if you get one thousand dollars here and there, you don't really need to work which is kind of silly really, because obviously a thousand bucks or one thousand two hundred bucks, one thousand four hundred dollars. That's not going to be enough to cover your long term. Sick needs, and indeed the labour shortage does persists. The number of job openings was at an all time high as of October, at more than Eleven million openings and companies struggling still to hire enough workers to meet the demand, but the truth is that the labour shortages caused by a multitude of factors and chief among them, have to do it baby boomers retiring early and a reduction in worker visas that have been granted over the course of the past

Overall, I was able to come up with eight reasons in total for the labour shortage situation, so I wanted to run through them all with you here so number. One in these are in no particular order. People retiring early estimates suggest that the? U S has about two million more retirees right now than we otherwise would have expected if we had not had the pandemic- and this makes sense because less say you were sick He two years old when the pandemic started Andy planned on retiring at age. Sixty five, by now, you're about sixty three and a half going on sixty four. Do you really want to go back to work or another year or so, especially when you already are semi retired, as it is probably not especially given the fact that the stock market has boomed over the past couple of years, so people's retirement accounts are higher than the expected them to be also real. These values have gone up significantly so people assuming they on their house and assuming they had before.

Kay or- and I are re, they ve seen a sizeable growth in their wealth over the past couple of years, making it so they may not have to keep working. They might as well just retire. Early number, two ass do with immigration, the? U S. Government has issued about one point: two million fewer visas to adult immigrants, refugees and temporary foreign workers, and I think this is intuitive. Given that restrictions on travel were in existence see during the early phase of the pandemic. Many these restrictions still exist today, there's a chance also that the things can turn around, because now the Department of Homeland Security has announced that bind ministration is going to be adding twenty thousand new slots to a seasonal guest worker program for the winter season, but it makes sense that given: there's a pandemic raging throughout the world, people just don't wanna, be travelling from country to country number three: there's a skills mismatch. Forty eight percent of workers said that they were frustrated with the search and forty six percent so that they can only find a low paying

girls, just because a job as available that doesn't mean that people necessarily want to take that job does not necessarily mean that it's a good paying job and we know that some people were able to take advantage of their time off during the pandemic, and many people learn new skill they did online classes etc, and so their market value has improved, but if they don't find a job that matches their skill improvement, maybe they're just going to decide to hold out number four commuting people many times just don't want to go back to commuting. Obviously during the beginning phase of the pandemic, many workers moved out of the areas that would be hiring by now, like they moved from cities rural areas, and they just have decided they don't want to commute anymore. That's been my experience like I like working from home. It wouldn't be a total deal breaker for me if I had to start going back into an office every day, but I prefer to just keep working from home. Obviously, commuting can be very, very stressful, special

You have a long term. You like, if you're driving an hour to and from work every day I mean that's just crazy and if you don't have to do in any or, why would you want to sell commuting, obviously, is a big factor? Number five child care Most schools are open at this point, but there can be cancellations based on Cuba cases at the drop of a hat. Maybe the school year gets halted. Early, obviously were seeing some closures now with Amr Kron, so sometimes parents who may be working part time all the kids are at school. They can't do that anymore because they have to be home to take care of the child, or at least they have to keep that as an option in case school does get shutdown number six is pro tests over vaccine mandates. There are some people who are just not going to get the vaccine, no matter what it doesn't matter. If you offer them a carrot or a stick in so obviously, if they refuse to get the vaccine, there are so many jobs that there are no longer Ellen

before they can't work for a government agency or the copier government contractor they can't work for a company with more than fifty employees. They can't work in certain cities in the country, so obviously that lowers their possibilities when it comes to the job market and that also contributing in part to the labour shortage number. Seven fear of the virus cases are obviously surging out of control right now, the, across various is super contagious, and so there are people who are maybe older or amino suppressed, and they feel as though you know I want to get it, but I dont want to put my life at risk by doing so and number eight,

the great resignation. This is a term coined by organizational psychologist, Anthony clots, who theorize is that people, especially pre pandemic? They would tie and their identity with their work and now with people taking some time, often really being confronted with their mortality, because the amount of people who have died over the past couple of years, its cause the shift in their perspective, and they no longer wrap up their identity with what they do as a job, and I think that you know, maybe the great resignation talking point is a little bit overblown because after all, people need to work to survive. Most people do anyway but you know there could be some people who decide I'm not going to work forty to fifty hours a week anymore, I'm going to work part time or maybe I'll take a few more years off and resume working later. Maybe I want to decide that I'm going to do something else with my life, so it's definitely a mix of factors. Some of these things are going to be able to improve overtime, other things he may not be able to like for exam

the baby boomers retiring early. Are you really gonna be able to bring them back into the job market? Probably not they're, probably retired, and not going to be entering the job force again, at least not in mass? But then there's other factors that will improve as these state of kroner virus in this country improves. As we finally see cases go down, we finally start see that's go down whenever that may be, the economy will follow. We ve been saying this for two years now that you have to do with the virus before you can deal with the economy and will I hope that this all sort of sort itself out, but that's the sort of update now having to do with a labour shortage in many of the reasons why it's happening. If you value what we do at the David Pachmann Show remember to support us on Patria on good, a patriotic dotcom, Slash David Pachmann show where you can get access to behind the scenes. Videos, the daily bonus, show

The commercial free daily show, as well as special discounts on March, including hats, hoodies, mugs and t shirts. You can support the show for as little as two dollars a month check it out at Adrian dot com. Slash David Pachmann show welcome back to the show so former tromp strategy, Steve Bannon, when he's not fighting off criminal charges for a build, the wall, money laundering scheme or fighting off charges for contempt of Congress having to do with the January sixth capital riots, He hosts eighty billion radio show on Real America's voice, called the war wherein he tries to build up an audience of Trump supporters and his thing is to really

Bill to the Gung HO once the ones who believe that Trump is the Saviour and Trump really want twenty twenty election, but if he was, of course, robbed by Joe Biden and the Democrats and voter fraud in all this nonsense. Now I think that's divan and is an obvious grifter. He pretends to be one of these anti establishment entirely elitist folks when at the same time he has degrees from Georgetown and Harvard, and he used to work at Goldman Sachs and in Hollywood. But his thing is: to scam die hard. Supporters into thinking that he's one of them right he's a true working class american kind of guy, and sometimes he quite literally scams people. If you look at that money laundering scheme that he allegedly Did Well Bannon is always trying to build up some media attention always trying to make a headline in some recognition for himself and he's done it yet again, this time by supporting Fox host Jesse waters in his time

need now waters, as we talked about on the show this week, he whence you ATP, USA Conference called America fast and waters used this strong rhetoric against doktor, Anthony FAO, Chee implying without directly saying that people should HANS down fetch and kill him water said stuff like boom. He is dead, ambush and kill shot. Now. Waters was speaking metaphorically, of course, but its clear what he was doing and its incredibly irresponsible, given the fact that felt she and his family have received a tremendous amount of death threats over the past couple of years, mainly for from supporters and he's obviously worried for safety's, worried about some crazy trumps, a poorer attacking him so waters words, definitely adsum fuel to the fire there and felt she followed up by saying that fox. Should fire Jesse waters for his comments. But, of course, Fox NEWS is not going to do that, they're going to stick by their guy fair and talked about this story earlier this week. If you want

that clip out, but now Steve Bannon is getting on the fun he's piling on and he can see that Jesse Waters got some attention from all this and now been and wants to share. Some of that spotlight. I'd. Imagine that ban and no longer wants to be relegated to the likes of real America's voice, and he wants to be now a fox news. Hoster. You want some sort of prime time radio job or something like that. So let's take a look at what she asked the ban and had to say his is perspective on this controversy and then will follow up on the other end, Liquid Jesse, ward of Greatness Morrison of their tanks equity, it's. You, Mr X only toll. It's about you funding the Chinese Communist Party, P, L, a lab you liar I'm going to be held accountable and your buddy, your partner, Collins with Carla's Collins, can run away, leaving getting him they were getting you you're gonna be held accountable and responsible for what you ve done. Tony shore, commercial break B

would dare beady Ben Hartwell, so he says Jesse waters is a great guy and he says that we're getting you having to do with Anthony felt she all this aggressive stuff with the religious Christmas visa. Going on in the background, that really was quite the contrast there I have, say, and obviously these threats don't amount to what you would need for criminal charges or anything like that. Nor should they. This definitely falls under free speech because they are veiled threats after all, but you always have to be on the lookout for a to terrorism event. There is a real possibility that someone in waters audience or abandoned audience. They could hear these words. The ambush comment kill, shot we're getting you etc and decide that these are calls to action and they could decide to take action into their own hands and carry out something really egregious against Anthony felt she over them. And we ve seen it happen before with different people. We ve seen it with members of gland backs audience. We ve seen it with bill of rights he's audience: if you have an audience of, thousands of people are millions of people and they watch

every day and they believe what you say: there's a chance that may be just one person can really take those words to heart and maybe they're not the most mentally stable, and they decide that they're going to view it as a call to action, and they could go on until someone because of the words they said there, and so you have a responsibility to your audience in society. More broadly, not to be doing that, suffer not to be speaking so recklessly and just a final point because ban and is now making a career off of sucking up to Donald Trump. Acting like this big, RO, Trump Guy- and you know, trying to appeal to his supporters- did ever forget that Donald Trump turned on this guy a while ago, like not only did Trump Fire Steve Ban and after the Charlottesville Incident for being toxic, he also released the following statement about him after it came out that Michael Wolf used Steve Ban and as a source for the book fire in full I quote: Michael Wolf is a total loser who made up stories in order to sell this really boring and untruthful book. He used Sloppy Steve Bannon who cried when he

fired and begged for his job. Now sloppy Steve has been dont like a dog, by almost everyone to bad. So this is the and his life now. I guess he has to make a living off of sucking up to tromp who fired him in Luckily, ridicule Tammy asked to try to appeal to the low common denominator of trump supporters and reassure them all of their world view it's pathetic stuff, but that's exactly who Steve Bannon is over the years we ve seen plenty of right wing politician sully whatever credibility they had left trying to get into the good graces of Donald Trump and oftentimes. It ends up. Completely backfiring or they get into trouble over it and the next person to be following this trend appears to be trumps. Fourth and final Whitehouse, chief of staff, mark those- and that is because meadows is no longer cooperating with the January sixth congressional committee mean that is obstinate continues. Charges could indeed becoming his way now is

only has a few weeks ago. Meadows was cooperating with the January Sixth committee. He was providing them with documents and really naming names like the whole and we know about the story having to do with John Kennedy and Brian kill me and Lord Ingram, urging meadows to tell trump to end. The insurrection was because meadows was willing to hand over the documents he was willing to hand over those text. Messages to the committee on Civil so found out that Tom Junior was trying to urge meadows to put an end to it. and we also found out that congressmen, Jim Jordan was giving an outline to meadows as to how my pants could throw out the electoral college votes and states that they are contesting. So this is all based on the fact that meadows was complying with the committee's request and handing over the documents, but everything changed around the time meadows released his

the chiefs chief and Trump publicly lambasted meadows for the claim, specifically that Trump expose people to coded after he tested positive for the virus and one of those people that he expose was actually Joe Biden during their first, Trump called the allegation. Fake news and meadows backtrack sang oh yeah, that part of my book, that was fake news, apparently regretting that he upset his former boss meadows, thought that the book was going to flatter trump, and it said it mainly just got under his skin because of the media coverage having to do with that positive test. It did exact opposite of what he was trying to do. It was right after this incident that meadows halted his communications with the January six Committee, the January six Commission wanted to get meadows to show up in person for testimony meadows lawyer, George Terwilliger argued he had done enough. He had provided the documents in the committee should be satisfied with that. In fact, Terwilliger released a statement that reads quote this

its committees, true intentions in dealing with MR meadows have been revealed when it accuses him of contempt, citing the very documents his cooperation has produced. So what market attorney saying here is that basically you should be grateful to my client, because so much of it information that you have now is because he was willing to cooperate with the investigation you shouldn't turning around now in trying to rope him into testifying. If he doesn't want to, you shouldn't be threatening him with criminal charges, because you know he's given you so much already, and it is true that mark meadows was fully cooperating and handed over nine thousand pages of documents, even though some of that information was indeed damaging to meadows and to the former president. He still did do that, but you don't really get partial credit. When you talk about a select committee that has rule of law behind them and, if you're not going to do it,

that they ask of you than you're going to open yourself up to criminal exposure and that's exactly what happened here recently, the house voted to refer Mark meadows for criminal contempt of Congress charges and it's going to be up to bite and justice I meant and attorney General Merrick Garland, to decide whether or not he is actually going to be charge and if he is and he's found guilty, there is actually the possibility on the table of marked meadows serving prison time over this now that actually going to happen, I don't know he may not even get charged in the first place, because it's going to be seen as an overtly political act of this happens like yes ban and was charged in this investigation, but he also wasn't willing to comply at all.

All and banning was in Trumps administration, but only as an adviser, whereas mark meadows like he was the chief of staff. After all, it's a much more important gig, and so maybe they would just figure that bite in and by the Justice Department, wouldn't have the political capital to charge mark meadows for his absence in this case, but will have to wait and see in and obviously if he does get charged, it doesn't mean necessarily he'll get convicted and if he does get convicted, that doesn't mean necessarily that help to prison over it. He made his face a fine or something like that. So will have to wait and see what happens, but you never know like that. This could definitely happening. There is definitely some legal exposure here and meadows. I'm sure is probably not sleeping very well at night these days and that's all because of Donald Trump anymore, try to get on trumps good side and now, at the other day, he's not only on trumps. Bad side is, so running the risk of criminal charges so that smart As for you, and now, there is very very long list of people who went down for Donald Trump sake. You any thought it was long and.

Well, it's getting even longer. We have people on their like Roger Stone, Steve Ban in Paul Van afford Michael Flynn Rick Gates towards Papadopoulos Michael Cohen. We know that really Giuliani courses in trouble. You under investigation and is also facing that civil suit with dominion voting systems if people like May Michael indolence. Any Powell who are also running against that case with dominion voting system so is mark meadows the next to follow the next to get in trouble. Trying to get us a good graces of Donald Trump. We'll just have to wait and see what you think that all these people would learn. their lesson by now on the bonus show. Today we have some great stories, we're gonna talk about how came potter the former police officer. She has been found,

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