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that these stories have become exhausting, but it is important to keep them in the public spotlight another one of these anti vaccine, so called Christians has died of covert, and this is not just an anti vaccine Christian. This is someone who was pushing Iver Mechlin and pushing Hydroxyl chloric. When the New York Times reports that Marcus Lamb, a christian broadcaster and vaccines sceptic, has died of covert. This was the co founder of the day STAR television network. Over the years we ve played lots of wacky clips of non empirically based claims from shows on the day star Network, Marcus, Lamb, christian broadcaster in Dallas, dismissive of covert vaccinations died, Tuesday African.

acting the virus? Mr Lamb was sixty four frequently suggested on his christian tv network that people pray instead of getting an oculist it. He had to be rushed to the hospital when his oxygen levels dropped quote all of a sudden after he contracted the virus. Mr Lambs wife and son confirmed his death on Tuesday on Ministry now, How the show the couple hosted. It was not immediately clear when he tested positive or where he died. The network did not respond to requests for comment. he hosted a bunch of different shows days. Broadcasters, including the lambs, repeatedly questioned the efficacy of the vaccine on May ten. They said that the vaccine could be killing your immune system, that's false, We want to warn you. We want to help. You will want to give you an alternative. What was the alternative? Well, instead of get getting vaccinated quote we can pray. We can get. I've reacted

and Buddhists denied and hydroxide chloric when those drugs are not approved for covert treatment by the FDA? He also denounced vaccination mandates for schoolchildren. on November eighteenth, Ms Lamb said her husband contracted the virus after she had, he had diabetes, which exacerbated symptoms. Last month, Jonathan Lamb, the sun, set his father's covert battle was the result of a spiritual attack from the enemy folks. Well, how do we react to this right? I mean a believe. The vaccine so the vaccine killed. Your immune system believed that getting cove. It isn't a spiritual attack from the enemy suggested prayer and Iver Mechlin and hydroxide Chloroprene, as it incredible damage potential that this individual is done and now he's dead of covert. What's our reaction, I know people

like the egg. Man feel nothing but pleasure at the fact that this individual has died. I still have a very hard time gloating about the death of anybody. but I think the message here is not only was his message potentially damaging to people who watched this drivel. It may have also been what led to him dying as well and maybe we leave it, there may be there isn't more to say about added another. One of the aid and its its emotionally exhausting its exhausting from a public health standpoint, but these anti backs Christians and right wingers, who have media presences vacancy You d die and it doesn't seem like it's going to stop any time soon had. This is really genuinely hilarious. Tucker Carl's bravely covered on his programme Wednesday. The fact

CNN host Brian Spelter fired his nanny because she wouldn't get back since now, what's really really funny about this segment. First of all, why is Tucker firing the personal home staff decisions of hosts on other networks no, he doesn't have bigger and better things to do. But the really funny thing is in hearing leaked audio of Brian Spelter, explaining it Brian Spelter sounds. minutely, reasonable. I never have cared about Brien Spelter, now or hearing what he did, unlike while he really seems to be thoughtful about what he's doing, let's, let's get right into the segment and take a listen to. This is supposed to be an indictment of Brian Spelter, but an I'm thinking. While he really cares about it It's totally told you last night and you may have noticed CNN pulled its top. Indeed, Chris Como off the year for the crime of helping his brother begins, pull someone off tv What people know ahead of time, otherwise

you're gonna have about a dozen people tuning and I'm wondering wait, whereas the stairway guy show over now that actually got a funny. Ok, but now we go from risk. Robot, o Brien Stealth, seen on the dwarf King despatches eunuch. We the news the Chris Coma being pulled off indefinitely suspended. What's so trusting and tells you so very much about CNN. Is we learnt dated the eunuch himself would like Chris foremost job or the betrayal MR barrier by the the eunuch, I guess, is his nickname for Brian Stealthy, though interesting for raising the question of what kind of person is seen, ends media critic right we ve across audio the answers that question here is and what it means is name for the first time, Brian Spelter, explaining children, people that he has fired his nanny, who of course remains nameless because she refused to get the injection into this

my life and work full time moving money now and the end of the day in New York and an army interviews irrational you're hurting me it was very here, is that we vote after six months of ASEAN, vaccines are all may find that she would come around. He gave her six months. Guys itself the eminently reasonable Brian Spelter has a nanny autonomic kids, he has only just as other untried we doesn't matter may be. The kids can get that, and aided, maybe not based on their age, doesn't really matter. You want your kids to be spending around vaccinated people. They didn't even say to the nanny you gotta get vaccinated today or you're gone. They gave the nanny six months of being on vaccinated thing. Show I'm around, we like the nanny. We don't want to get rid of the nanny, she didn't come around. What on earth is the controversy here and Tucker Karlsson apparently thinks this makes brine. Spelter look bad,

So the headline here is seen ends: media critic dismissed blithely dismissed as little non white servant because she didn't obey and now do we need The nanny isn't white. I dont know about that, but when he says blithely blithely means its casual and cheerful indifference. That is callous or improper. The audio says it was very sad and we gave her six months. We said: ok, we'll get the next six months once we know everything that now we know about the vaccines she'll come around I'll give and she didn't that. Doesn't sound blithely to me at his good fervor. Said warehouse at how said was he exactly doesn't sound blithe to me? Did he pay her health insurance until she finds a new job. What does she to eat and pay her rent? Now that she's been dismissed by seen it very sad media critic. We care. What happens to your servants? Do we when they disobeying

so we asked CNN today. Of course you got no answer at all, which is, I would CNN, give Tucker information about Brian stealthily, privately hired nanny. What wooded this is crazy. This is a story on Tucker Karlsson, an answer which is we don't know we don't care. Tells you lot what an insane story to be covering that just really makes you wonder what exactly is Tucker Carlson's real issue here with vaccines. If there is one because my belief is Tucker, Karlsson is smart enough to realise that, as a decision, is a completely reasonable decision, particularly when you give a six month runway of saying all right. We don't like it, but we, you like the nanny she's going to stick around were going over six months. Hopefully she'll get vaccinated. She still. I got him act that we're gonna have to part ways. I am sure that privately Tucker Karlsson knows

that's completely reasonable. There is no way that he so stupid as to think that this is really the blight active in individual, but it is obvious that he is completely captured by what his audience expect him to be saying, and that really does an excuse. What he's doing it really doesn't, but I think that that's really the explanation, because I've a very hard time believing Tucker is stupid and this story? Choice, of course, that the the nanny of a host on a different network is a story valley Besides I started coming here and telling you guys about the thing SAM Cedar is doing with his large domestic staff. I making that up. I don't I don't know of any domestic staff, it simply too has, but you all would rightly say David what it. What exactly is the news here? What are you talking about and that exactly the right can we should have with talker. This is for clicks and its working, its working guys, working really really well for him. We're to be doing. This is so soon now. We are good

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build Tennessee. Am I pronouncing that correctly? A yeah, that's correct, beautiful! What's on your mind today, I guess I just want to say you know does like would Democrats, maybe Lucy and twenty twenty two earth they like Republican, beginning seats and twenty twenty two actually help. Democrats and twenty. Or given the kind of swaying cycle of these elections, I dont think so for two different reasons: number one the whole. swing. Nature of some of these elections is mid terms after the party in the war. House changes in the immediately previous elections. So it's it's not just its all swing, so it's better and twenty four democrats. If they lose in twenty two there I don't know of any historical data that would suggest that its also sort of itself-

patients than away the idea that by making things get worse, you then create circumstances in which things get better and historically, it's just not work. That way like we ve looked at whether that's a thing, and it really isn't. It's really been like that. Progressive gains have been made through incremental progress in continuation, the progressive era late Nineteenth century up until about nineteen fifteen, I'm civil rights era- the new deal ere, I took out mention them out of order there. So now I dont mean, as it is only reasonable question to ask the only caviar too, that spiel would be. If it's not now, making things worse by having Republicans win in twenty two or whatever, but if the Steve Danger levels for twenty four are higher for leftwing voters, because Republic, when in twenty two and then it motivates them in some way? Maybe there

would be an argument to be made there. But overall, I just think Democrats would be best served to do as well as well as possible and twenty two and then again in twenty four. I wouldn't play these kind of back and forth games with it. Ok, yeah that that makes sense, because I felt like yeah whatever you may know, whatever people or whatever can get Democrats to go out and vote more in twenty four, the me seems like most advantageous for democratic. That's right. So thanks for taking my comment all right, thank you steal from Nashville. Thank you. So much, let's go next to staff from the shots and stuff you were on their hey. They then, I think, sir, calling on me, but I have a question: what are your thoughts on the new travel

directions in terms of people now needing a task twenty four hours in advance, while as before, I believe it was seventy two hours yeah. I just I heard about this because of fraud the mind sent me a message. While we were filming, the show about it may be true apples regularly and- and you know I've I do too and I've had. I guess it's three trip since the start of the pandemic, for which I have needed return test to come back to the United States. I think it's very, very problem. magic from a logistical standpoint. Now I dont know whether it will prevent disease from spreading it mayor I really dont know from a logistical standpoint. It's actually very difficult right now to get will. First of all, if you're looking at a pc our test which is the most accurate. I dont know of any place where you can get it guaranteed within twenty four hours, maybe there's some places but especially in other parts of the world, is very, very tough, which means that you can

be overwhelmingly relying on antigen tests. Now the ended in antigens. Matter of. You heard my story from when I was in Spain in August, but on how we back my girlfriend had to false positive antigen tests. We ultimately went and got a pcr, but You know it took six hours to find it and then another twenty four to get the result. If we had been with its within twenty four hours of the flight, we would have simply been stuck in Spain because of the less reliable antigen tests, so I just Logistically, I dont know how this is going to be managed and when, Read that I was thinking it looks like I'm travelling domestically for the foreseeable future, yet that that was exactly what I was wondering in terms of their the tests over the more reliable, and so that answered it exactly. Thank you. and you know in some airports, like I remember when I was flying through Frankfurt, you could get antigen tests and there would be different prices for different time

like time windows, but it was all the same task. So if it's like, if you had twenty four hours, then it was like eighty bucks and if you needed it within six hours, for a flight it was one fifty and if you needed within one hour, you could pay like three hundred and fifty dollars, but it was all the same test and of course the risk would be if you get a false positive use, got kind of screwed, either way and no yeah exactly our rights. That thank you for the call very good question derive their go stuff very good, Let's go, let's keep talking to people. Why don't? We may be against my better judgment? Let's go to Eric from can Coon Eric from Cancun has delivered some of the best calls we ve ever had, and also some so atrocious. I've had to cut them early Eric. What's on your mind today,. An haven. Tourism earlier about the lesson we call and the thing is

it was of bad faith. He was out of not knowing how the bull maybe ass. It was I who oppose it for the last time you called The thing I want to talk about can I talk about my autism. May I figure if, if you like Enron. Remember, you know we have a lot of people waiting to chat. So, ideally, if you have a question that would be the ideal thing, I want to clear out these doubts of antibiotics is because I won't tell you there either because these eighty vaccine, I was where we live, and yet some citizens with it. It remains essential to stay monster, although so like these boy and misinformation either. Is there a blanket? some emotional intelligence and have you seen the movie? Have you seen the Big bang theory for? As I mentioned article there,

where he goes in the direction of flight, is barely any some answers. Some those the thief there, s emotions because I play the piano. Sometimes I preventive lady Vienna. When I hear a song I, like my son later, I say If you think of any electoral by someone could think of a Christmas tree, just me or maybe four masqueraders, where animals are brutally honest, have you seen the movie liar liar? I have I didn't realize that we tell the truth without filter right all right will very good Eric. I appreciate you calling in, and we always love hearing from you burn driven either. If somebody inappropriate is no barrier of Bessie enable yeah. If you invite people, yes is vital.

Well, you ve never said anything that I am aware of in bad faith. Eric. Thank you. I wish to call you suddenly aunt em, you more about other things are right. There good. Now, one thing Eric. I was under the impression that we don't use the term Asperger's anymore because it refers to a nazi doctor, and so we just say low on the autism spectrum. Are you have you heard of that, because you have asked yes and may take method so my daddy's gaily values that are over? Eric. Thank you. All I ended weather is good and can Coon. Today Israel, Rainy and all you- like a sound right now is lagging some men were duly. Are you in it was angels right.

Now I will be in LOS Angeles next week actually, but if I'm in the northeast are at Eric. Thank you very much appreciate the call we love hearing from Eric from CAN Kuhn and glad to hear that, You're doing well, let's go next Tuesday Damn in New York City SAM? You were on their aid, thinks you're taken. My call Ivan is one to get your take on the potential of reintroducing. What's it called remarks into bills, given like how difficult it's been two asking these major bills, democratic and trying to get through congress- and I understand the potential to be proxies, but I feel like earmarked, could be a good way to get these bills pastor, if the Senate limit. Now I don't like it, it's that you you're, making it a pyrrhic victory. I understand the idea, which, You know you start allowing for more goodies in these bill.

And you'll get people to support them, but I would, I would consider it a pyrrhic victory. It would be a victory in which you do so much damage that do you really come out ahead? I don't I don't like it now. I think we should go backwards and if it's like I made some, age after your mention four. Can I don't know? A million dollars already knows a lot at times. Those things are done at the federal level anyway, I know I'm not sure it's it. Doesn't it doesnt strike me. I think the right way to do it is elect a few more democrats. You know, I guess I thought the marginal cost of em earmark way less than the benefits of passing spoonies bills over all sorts, but I got your thing if it is just a pyrrhic victory. If it's gonna

If something is inadequate and of course is no point, I mean the marginal cost of one earmarked might be small. But yet, if you, if you say, let's just start handing out, earmarks again, it's not gonna be just one that your exchanging for the bill. It's gonna, be dozens, hundreds, whatever you know not or know anything else, em no etc. I wanna get your take thanks. So much I'd appreciate it they're, SAM from New York City, great to hear from you. Of course, let's go next tanner from delays. Minnesota alone, hello, you're on there. Sweden has sounded the aid. If beautiful audio officer awesome, thank you are right, so in Minnesota. Alot of a lot of. Industry goes on your and stuff like that, and I was just wondering if you know it: you ve noticed all the like strikes and labour movement.

Going on right now. Do you really do you think that democratic should be? more to support it or support unions. Cuz, I feel, like you know. Back of decades ago, like union people in unions used to be like hardcore democrat voters, and now it seems like unions, kind of just kind of the way aside and they don't really care boredom anymore and a lot of people and unions actually vote Republican now, especially like in the treaties, which used to be like very, very blue, the near you are completely right. So in terms of the strikes and and making progress- and of labour. I think it's a perfect opportunity. We have seen the pandemic has been basically horrible in all ways, but if we could, if we want to say hey what or maybe some good things I'm from one is the rapid advancement of EM rna technology for their types of vaccines, and now there is also a different advancement, that's happening there and its created this opportunity in the kind of shut down and then restarting in many industries for workers to say

hey, hey, you know where we're going to come back if and when we get better conditions, better pay, etc. I think the opportunity is an extraordinary one. I would like to see Democrats be more openly supportive of unions. I also think it too Wharton to kind of couch the union discussion in proper context, because there are some people who say we I will, to see every employee be part of a union. You know the truth is with small businesses with very few employees b. being an overwhelmingly large portion of the work that is out there mom and pop ups with two three employees, etc: my opinion. Is that really does not lend itself to union zation? I think there are other ways to empower workers there and create a safe safety net and you eat, some states have put in place paid medical and family leave, regardless of employer size he added to their part. So I think our expectations have to be reason,

call that at the mom and pop level, unions are probably not the future of democratizing labor, there's other things, but yes, I would like to see more. Success has come from the strikes that we are seeing. I think the timing could not possibly be better. Leverage is something that not been at this level for workers for a really long time and I'd like to see democratically elected officials be more supportive. Fisher only sounds good. However, there are generally here yeah very much first term collar love. You show all right. Thank you! So much, there's Tanner from Duluth one phone call what a phone call. Let's take a very quick break. but if you're holding don't hang up because we're gonna go right back to the phones momentarily. I love growing my own. Food at home. Many of you have seen my gardening stuff on my instagram. I get great tips from the audio.

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Who is it who suffer from London? Is that right, ISA, Fire David has going on it's going well yeah. I actually think that Would choose me so I guess I just want to say thanks for covering the Rittenhouse trial is pre reentertaining informative as well. You know, I honestly don't know much about, as law. So I was learning as well and with your coverage and the correct from your fan so yeah thanks thanks for I want that and then I pledge was a real that George was a real horrida. Why didn't you think I would call on you I'm curious No I just this is low. The people in the cats, all right. What now? How do they appreciate Willie? tire vigilante militia seen that was the context of the two.

I'll insane to you as a person whose in London he was because Obviously we have guns or anything so all idea of especially a kid who is on rigour, the time just picking up some gone from his armoury and just run aground paying quality that That's! Just like you eat you, you don't you never hear of that, like as an english person, you Here is something like this in your lifetime ever yo, those stars crazy. That's it! things so like for you. Is it even hard to say? Well, I guess outlook. So as you watch the trial Were you most interested in the specific defence or just the general context in which all of this was taking place? no but I was coming in. I was interest and the whole thing, but as I was watching the trial, I became more and more interested in clearly defined

an hour's ina. This may sound a bit controversial an enlightened by saying I'm not saying that sport coiling in any way whatsoever, but I was Honestly I was drawn to his defence voices and the way they work honestly because I think the they took full advantage of the judge. No, but the whole pixelate Video thing oh yeah, yeah awesome from mistrial over and over again I just I was drawn to the way they were working honestly. Yea was definitely compelling to see no no question about it all right. Thank you. So much for your perspective. I appreciate it didn't call David. All right take care. There is e, suffer from London. Let's go next, there's a lot of people wanting to get onto a very interesting folks? Oh let's go to our friends. Scott from Pensacola. who you we ve spoken before right, Scott.

Scott from Pensacola you're on the air. If you and mute yourself, when you got me yes now you're on I M, so the question I got today is: what do you think of the general public in China do as far as people that are concerned with the way things are going with some of these school board meetings and the potential for violence with some of them? Who had so tough because saying The answer is to show up to counter the Wacky school board. People is only likely to trigger the more and maybe even likely to cause violence in and of itself, because these people are so volatile. So it's very tough to say I mean I, I one idea that suggested, is that there is a temporary hiatus of public comment at School board meetings, but my instinct is never to suppress speech.

And our own, but you Scott, but my instinct is that that's not how I want to fix the problem. So it's very very tough I mean. Maybe there need to be more strictly and enforce rules of decay. I'm at the school board meetings I dont know, but it's become a mess I agree with you- I think that if we were to limit speech at those sorts of things are getting up, whether a slippery slope, the anthem unintended consequences. I mean, I think that one thing maybe is that the people who act out like children at either LT legally, but they act like children. They really should be shamed and humiliated in their communities. In my instinct is that sometimes people go up the government we played a very. of a girl and her dad who both quoted Hitler in their opposition to masks and people in the crowd, cheered, and so, if those folks were ostracised and humiliated in their communities. My guess is: they'd be less likely to do this stuff, but they're not gonna, be ostracised.

then humiliated. When half the community seems to agree with them. You know and then they'll just cry, cancel culture, it happens anywhere yeah. I know it's a tough question but its wacky. What's going on, I thy Spirit on David pay. Listen before you go is the Gulf Bree, Pensacola Bridge finally reopened or what's going on down there. The Gulf Breeze Pensacola Bridge is open for two lanes in each direction. So for those people No during Hurricane Sally, some barges that were used by the construction company got loose and damaged bridge and it was shut down. Everybody undertake a toll road I'm around, It really ruin traffic around here for about nine months, Yemen didn't it didn't make what can be a fifteen minute trip like a seventy five minute trip by having to drive all the way around yeah

I d go all the way around. Yes, the idea to downtown Pensacola. There were a lot of businesses that suffered on both sides, the bridge, so hopefully the litigation. That's involve without war. We'll make some things right: yeah yeah. We have friends down there who live engulf, breeze and work in downtown Pensacola, and it was just a complete and total unless I kind of like Pensacola. I have to tell you I know it's like it is sort of the deep south. It's not Miami Beach. You know, but actually had a good time. The food seen wasn't bad. There's some place called like the Is it the something grill downtown method to blue? Something does deserve ring, not the top of my head, my favorite, neurons gonna, be the grand Morland out on an old age. Oh grandmama? Yes, there is, you know where I went when I was there. I went to Joe Patties nice got a great crab realities where you can get yeah. Yeah absolutely anyway, hoped him

get down there again, glad to hear the bridges reopened thinks I'm ok, very good. There we go there, Scott from Pensacola working with a little bit of a delay, but we did the absolute best we could with it you We do so much with it. You know, that's that's the reality. Let's go next to where we going there's so many interesting callers. Let's go to Louie from New Brunswick Lou year on Year, Egerton Do you can hear me? I can hear you fine, Oh really enjoy your show for some collar longtime listener. My wife and I find ourselves in a strange situation. Ok, we report were part of a church states very, very right, lean, but politically were the opposite, except for some key issues, feel like we have two almost keeping under wraps our political event, but we really have a hard time discussing

just justice, common issues with far with our brothers and sisters, Ever in Canada like this before in well do yeah I mean, I guess in some sense I have in that their listen, I'm not a religious jus, I'm culturally jewish ethnically with color narrowly jewish, I'm not religious, but there are people in mice girls who are more religiously devout Jews and they have much more culturally conservative views, but it's not really become a pie. Images like, I know those are their views and they know my views. Let me ask what what did a nation or what is this book is a christian church. It is a christian church. Were they Guinan Denominational ends Funny thing is that our congregation is becoming extremely multicultural. Aouda quick example. We Eddie

Smith or its advent. Children's concert I would like to say and I want to say, ninety percent of the children were non white, ok and it was agreed site? Like I, you know, our leadership is saying things like look if our, if our community is very multicultural than the church should represent that right. So I love that I love it. However, I've noticed that a lot of the the men in the leaders or I would say, not lose a lot of the men were very engaged. Are love or, I would say, caucasian and then you heavily towards. I hate to see this boy Trump is willing and let me just ask you: wouldn't what it was like. A big issue on which you disagree with the general position of the church. What will this just like there? It's, not a position of the church suited to follow politics by boy,

when a lot of people, you know we're like just spouting things at their head on news and worst like Island, a news max beyond its really. really horrible, like First but we re not permitting and Sun was like like praying against Nancy Palacio like it was literally like a Fox news. Talking point now in such listen. I don't know anything about churches, but in a situation like that, couldn't you stand up and say: listen guys, it's not appropriate for us to be involving politics in this way, I'm not making up. a statement for or against anyone. I'm just saying this is a place for faith in community. Not for politics I could could you say better. Would that not be well received? Well, We have said that, actually, in our men's meeting, we ve made a point that we shall not ever talk politics, because it is so device and when I have confronted people one on one about say like hypocrisy of tromp or like daddy libraries, like you know, he's abuse

Women are done horrible things. I've noticed that it, it hurts people's feelings illegally report they recoil like they were. You know personally injure so my wife and I ve learned late, just not even to bring it up and we just cringing kind of like just hold her tongue, went when when things come up Could you find a more liberal church I mean. Is that an option I meant. I understand it's a big deal to change churches, I'm sure, but but is it to the point where you would say? I want to find a different church for me that you bring it up because a lot of people who have spoken about this outside teachers stuff like going. Why aren't you leave? Why? Why are you still there and you know what it is is like there's so much love this so much relationships. We ve been there for over ten years. We feel like we feel like it would be like abandoning It is just not enough, it is guaranteed, I think, just sixteen the labour love and like to see how things turn out. Well, I case it sounds like you have your answer as to what to do right. Yeah, we're stay here. Somebody pretty confident about that are right.

Let me know how it goes and by the way I mean, listen, you you're not saying that from the pulpit they're doing politics right, that's actually against the church charter for Non. It's great know: they're, not dangerous, even worse, even when tromp was like flying high and things were like Europe in their perspective, because now it's the opposite like It's almost like a shame. Now I think, for infrastructures to talk about trumpet. To defend him, I should say, but everyone when he was flying high, I would say like early in his in his administration, There were times where I have a feeling that the pasture crossed the line and people had to talk to him and say you need to you- need to dollar backlog. Oh and renewed hit you so in its struggle. I especially with the older, the older generation, I would say like over fifty over sixty I got it all. I wanted you to know that on how it goes. Yeah thanks, Louie from New Brunswick Dealing, a that's quite a lot

the ball hanging out there. That is dealing with proverbially. Of course, I know it's a Christian, a christian church, let's go next to. Ike from Massachusetts MIKE you're on there. David doing well well, but there are two questions of weaken go every other time, please. First, and if you very spoken mothers on your shown, I missed it. I apologize for the repetition. What do you make of, going on in Austria with them nation wide mandate and that other countries in Europe are start the insurance doing the same thing do you again I a nationwide vaccine mandate. I mean: do you see that is simply a step too far for western democracy or is it kind of or do you feel like? Maybe we reached a boy where the extreme circumstances were required.

Solutions. Listen here, here's my view. A dire circumstances require extreme solutions. My view is, is follows I'm trying to think about this is pragmatically as possible. My opinion on this is heavily biased by the fact that it's not it happened in the United States. So when someone says to me, do you think it's far not might happen. The United States not going to have a literal vaccine mandate where the government says you must be vaccinated, they're, they're, doing stuff through employers o shot, employers must test or Virgo, but it's not going to happen, and so because see that it's just kind of a non starter, it's hard for me to say it would be the right or the wrong thing necessarily. I mean I think it is morally defensible. At the same time, I think there are good arguments legally speaking for why

and be a work requirement. It can be a school requirement. It can be a requirement to avail yourself of certain types of businesses, but just a straight up mandate at sea. I dont know legally whether it would stand in a completely broad, based federal way, although there's people on both sides of that, I think my issue at this point is what is most likely to most quickly get us out of the pandemic, and by that I mean to an dammit phase. It doesn't seem like it's gonna go away and it is about convincing the Well, we can convince to go and get vaccinated and also to some degree, about the reality that we don't interact. With every one like the fact that there is a big anti backs, community in Mississippi is statistically very unlikely to effect my ex

oh sure, to the virus. Sure I might be on a plane with folks, but for the most part, is like, what's going on in my kind of more immediate community, travel spreads, etc, etc, but I'm trying to focus more on sort of like why Can I do within my immediate community and so to go back to your question. Do I think it's right or wrong? What Austria's doing? I dont fully know everything that's taking place in Austria, but it's not for me to say that they are right or wrong for doing it. This is what they are doing. I dont think it's going to happen in the United States, so my concern is: how can we get beyond the pandemic phase, given that there is not going to be a full on vaccine mandate? That's I'm them thinking pragmatically So I agree with you that it's extremely unlikely to have at federal federal level debate a very big upheld. Old for any administration to take on blight?

You see, do you see a certain point where maybe states might try to impose a state way back slowly loud, I really, as outlined by the Supreme Court in the past year. I know it has and there's this very important case from Cambridge Massachusetts, and I think it was nineteen o three that people point to his precedent. I think that republican governors would never do it and democratic governors realize it would be politically problematic, so I dont think we're even it to see a mandate at state level. I could be wrong if I'm wrong I'll eat. My socks, you know Sharon Ash I guess which used to a second question. I gotta keep things moving, so this is this. My people leave opinion oriented at this point, but so is supreme. this hearing be Missouri abortion case today, releases hearing, arguments on it and I ve been I've been trying to do my own research and look into what certain experts think of what is going to happen and opinions are all over the map

Some people think that this should be so obvious as unconstitutional that the mere fact that their hearing it is a bad sign. Yes, but then there are the other conservatives who are like the Supreme Court always lets us down. gave the same case this time. So an obvious That's not me saying let down but ass, the conservative saying that they, yet they yet let down Ogilvy. Do you woods We are on you. This is how this is all going to shake out. I mean: are we looking at the end, the Rosy Wade, or is this gonna get shot down and service going freak out again I have no idea, I really do I could it's it's I've read some of the same stuff. You read, it sounds like, and I don't even bother making a prediction because it so unclear it's sort of a wacky supreme court. It strange times I think anything could happen. I do think that if one of these really strict laws is upheld by the Supreme Court It is the beginning of the end for Roby Wade, but as far as what is going to happen, I have no idea which bears Kenneth Wincey fair enough, but you ve got.

Alright MIKE from Massachusetts, thank you so much for the call appreciate, buddy. We were able to speak to that's going to do it for today, but we will take calls again soon and remember December 14th. At six p, DOT M will be a wide open viewer, town Hall, Ware, Everyone is welcome to call in more on that upcoming. One of our sponsors is all form hands down. The easiest way to custom build your own sofa. You choose the premium fabric, you want you choose this. For size, shape, color, even the color of the legs. You can customize every ass, Back of your new so far to make sure it's the perfect fit for your home. I got my first all forms over a year ago. I just got a second one, which is really exciting. These really are the sofas I would have bought for my home. Even if all form was not a sponsor. You really can't be the quality

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We are seeing that very strongly in our e mail bag, so you're a loser under racists. Thank you, Thomas. In about socialism, this is a good email. Actually, Thomas Rights. Your remark seem to indicate that the? U S doesn't have socialism. If we take the broad definition, the? U S has plenty. Social Security, Medicare, minimum wages, etc. And more than enough government support for large industries, a socialism that pre dates that for the majority one per Nickel party has been trying for decades to eradicate socialism for seventy to eighty percent of the people, which would leave more wealth, the shovel up to the plutocracy. We don't take the broad meaning of the word shouldn't. We also dropped the broad meaning of capitalism, vulture capitalism, vampire capitalism, mom and pop opera,

Sean's, etc. Corporations in the financial behemoths that use wealth of the capital correct class to rake more of it up for them a lot of really good points here and points that we ve made when, when I say the United States not a socialist country. What I mean is that at the top level, socialism, including a socialized ownership of the means of production, is not the model. Thomas is completely correct. that in certain areas we do have socialized services and you can even include more potent police in most places, some places of looks or like private police forces, but police in most places fire fighters in most places. Social security is a socialist nation of sorts Medicare it. Yes,

we we have on the military, and so when we say we are not a socialist country We mean one thing about it: we mean when the right says its socialist, to have Obama phones, as jestingly Petersen, once told me, or whenever this is not a socialist country or government at the top level, but we have socialist elements within it up for sure next, emails from Bruce Bruce's David. What I'm wondering is when isn't Elon musk going to hop on one of these be arcs that he is creating an going to crash into Venus, which is the planet he wants. The earth to become yeah, there's a lot more anti Elon Musk centre, in the email lately, and I did up if you're interested in the in the topic of Ilan Mosque and Tesla from the electric vehicle stand

on Friday, on black Friday, I did a stream where we didn't blotted different things. But one of the things I did talk about my increased its, not dissatisfaction but less enthusiasm about Tesla as the future of electric vehicles. think Tesla was a fat and early mover and when it comes, the range of their vehicles their second to none, but there are other company, including General Motors AOI, just about all that are generally speaking, better at building vehicles, and I talked about where I believe the test was going to start having. of its less about the personality call around deal on mass, but if you're interested in that topic check out that live stream from black Friday, very, very powerful live stream, Ok, here's a thanksgiving greeting- maybe you guys, did not expect

On Thursday Thanksgiving, I gotta email, an email from Jimmy from Philly that furious angry trumpets who calls in and he said, simply happy thanksgiving. There was no attack, there was no insult. There was no sir or the homophobia or trans phobia that we ve come to expect from Jimmy from Philly simply happy thanksgiving. He does email me sometimes just dumb, just to say hello, so not sure how many of you are surprised, but by that, but I did receive that next question is from Jeff Jeff right in right, and this is why the big microphone David, Sir, I see people online using tiny, lovelier MIKE's and they sound fine or those that wraparound your face. I know this is a stupid. question, but why do you use such a big MIKE at least a dozen obscure your mouth? Like other, you tubers, I hope you're not compensating for

the big fat and website member. Yet you know I've talked about this before there's a couple, different reasons that I stuck with the big MIKE when we years ago when we tried the clip on lovelier MIKE's. We didn't have the ones that sounded that good, so I'm completely open to switching to a love. Mike if someone can recommend me, one that really will sound is good. Is one of these larger condenser microphones, but a lot of people just listen to this. Shelby, the audio podcast I dont want to have damaged. Sir. quality. That's one reason. The second reason is our main studio is very well treated from the standpoint of echo and deadening, the room and all of that stuff. Our backup studio, which we now have is not an using a lovelier mike when I ve tested it is insanely equity and when travelling

some travel upcoming, we're gonna be doing the show from different locations. It so unpredictable. What the room treat me is going to be. You might be, you know, and I could be we tell room with those kind of like padded, almost like it's just that it's like a painting, but it's just pay. added fabric. You know it's gonna like in now which helps the dead and the sound and carpets and whatever It can be really echoing because it so unpredictable. The large canister microphone just seems to sound better but if someone can recommend a good love that really will will perform well in all of these scenarios. I will switch to it trusts me when I travel and I bring the big boy. I think, every time it would be great to have a tiny little microphone. Alright just so, I hope that a comprehensive answer of this is a very sad email from Matthew, Matthew, says, conspiracy, theory, aunt or he's from New York. So I guess he would say aunt. I Matthew

from New York. My whole family is diverse republican members, trumpets Trump haters dont, like the rhetoric, but will vote for policies and just classic republican members, but all as I know, vaccinated except one, my aunt, she has conspiracy theories the vaccine and the left so much that she thinks Trump is saying, get the vaccine as a reverse psychology technique. I dont know what to do. I don't want cut off, but I'm feeling I feel like I'm enabling her every time I talk to her about politics. What do I do? You know? I get these questions all the time. I can't tell you Matthew what to do. You have to decide what is the emotional psychological mental health impact of being caught? act with someone who is so disconnected from reality, verses, How much do you value the relationship with her and what effect it would have to cut her off

in terms of the relationships between you and other people in the family? I can answer that question for you. What I think is very interesting about this particular conspiracy. Theory is. That is an example of an end. You it's indefensible. It's on falsified able right because, if Trump were to say, don't get the vaccines. A lot of these folks would say see trumpet saying: don't get it and if Trump says get it, anyone like Matthews ART can say it's reverse psychology. What he really is, one people do is not to get it even though he sang that you should get it. So that's any kind of Falsified will claim like that is very, very tough, because, no matter what he says they come to the same conclusion. So I dont really have advice on

personal thing, but it is a very tough conspiracy theory to deal with next message came envy a facebook. I don't suppose you would be interested to hear or see this, but the restaurants in my town have started to put let's go brand and on the bottom of tickets. I figured you know what it means. Guy I mourn Oklahoma Pub on the bricks. Yeah I've seen reports of this where you go in oftentimes at restaurants. The receipt has some kind of message at the bottom. Sometimes it's thank you for business happy holidays? Thank you for coming. We appreciate you stuff, like that. There are some restaurants that have started to put at the very bottom of the rest of the restaurant receipt. Let's go Brandon, which is of course, code for

F Joe Biden, it's one of the fringes, new right wing phrases which they think a super clever, and it's not. I wouldn't go to such a restaurant. If I ever saw that at the bottom, a risk of oversee, I would never go back up everybody's got to decide for themselves what to do last, one coming in Visa twitter, this users, as David Pachmann, you seem too, offer from a pretty severe case of autism that has only intensified over the years. It's hilarious that you'd call anyone do face. Referring to the judge in the written house case, it's areas that you'd call any wanna do face. How hard were you bullied growing up, or were you just socially awkward to the point of becoming socially crew

pulled very, very big, shot across the bows, of course, if they, but he knew about my first jobs, which I've talked about here on the show which were very, very much sales oriented, dependent on rapidly reading social queues and building rapport with people you ve just met. You might come away with a different conclusion, but a very interesting response here to me saying that Rittenhouse Judge was wacky. Wasn't it so congratulations to everybody who got their messages into the mail bag. Today, you can write in info at David Pachmann dot com you might notice all of the emails that get on our one paragraph, so the multi page emails as much time as may have gone into them, which we appreciate very much. They're, not gonna, make it onto the mail bag, and we have a fantastic bone show coming up for you today sign up at joint, pachmann,

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