--On the Show:
--Whoopi Goldberg makes very confused statements about the Holocaust and Jews on The View, and is subsequently suspended for two weeks
--A deeper look at Jordan Peterson's nearly-unintelligible rant about "The Bible" on Joe Rogan's recent podcast
--Donald Trump turns on Republican Senator Lindsey Graham in a deranged Newsmax interview with Rob Schmitt
--Donald Trump published a febrile, delusional statement demanding that his own former Vice President Mike Pence be investigated for not overturning the 2020 election in Trump's favor, despite Joe Biden winning
--Ron DeSantis is increasingly more favorable than Donald Trump and other Republicans in Florida in what might be a preview of the 2024 Republican Presidential primary
--Former Republican President George W. Bush maxes out his political donations to Republicans who voted to impeach Donald Trump, including Congresswoman Liz Cheney and Senator Lisa Murkowski
--The House Committee investigating the January 6, 2021 Trump riots received documents from the Trump administration that had been torn up and taped back together
--New revelations exposed that Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani were much more directly involved in a plan to seize voting machines from across the country after the 2020 election than was previously known
--Another voicemail caller reacts to David's "leaving the country" segment by misunderstanding what it was actually about, this time pulling out old antisemitic tropes
--On the Bonus Show: A 2,000 mile winter storm is coming, American's national debt surpasses $30 trillion for the first time, jury begins deliberations in Roy Moore defamation case, much more...
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This is an unofficial transcript meant for reference. Accuracy is not guaranteed.
Welcome
Nobody were starting today with two stories that are going to upset a bunch
people in my audience and that's ok, one is about Jordan, Peterson,
we will get you the first is about will be Goldberg. Many of you wrote to me about will be Goldberg statements on the view. Where
he is one of a number of of co hosts about the Holocaust and race and a jewish people, and, as I was preparing a story about this news broke that will be Goldberg indeed has now been suspended.
For two weeks by the view, because of her comments about the Holocaust. Now, I'm just gonna give you my interpretation of what she
said, and I'm going to explain to you why what she said is so problematic and what the main thrust of what would be set on. The view is that the Holocaust is not about race or was not about race, and there there's really two or three different layers of confusion here, which I'm going to try to pick apart and there's a ton of people who still don't understand
concept of Judaism is a race saying. Well, hello, but Judaism's or religion is not really a race and the part that makes this segment difficult. Is that, unfortunately, I mean listen, I expect out out and out Anti Semitism from the right. I get it all the time Soros.
funds you go back to Israel place. I've been once and have no real connection to eat
I expect that from from the right, but on the left there is a different thing that goes on.
We saw with the women's March where, for example, the women's March from from several years ago. Now they didn't want leadership, didn't want jewish women involved on the board, because jewish women were seen as privilege
whites rather than a historically discriminated minority group. An in built in that are all sorts of bias, seized and prejudices that only reinforce anti semitic troops, and so the left has a problem with
This too, I don't care if you dont, like hearing that I'm gonna call it out on both sides. So, let's just jump into the clip and I'm gonna
fry rather than pre. Explain. Let's just look at this piece by piece. Ok, let's take a look
will also, if you going to do this, then let's be truthful about it, because the Holocaust isn't about race.
it's not about? You may have city no fit. I give you re, but it's it's not about race. It's not
read this about, because you it's about man's inhumanity to man. That's what it's about better about
it's a premise or whether it is not about new angry. I see it, but it is a troll. My group, some people without Delay,
Blogger com is white band that whatever missing the point, you missing the point, and I mean it. You turn it into raise. It goes down
Allie. Let's talk about it for what it is and how people treat each other. It's a problem. It doesnt matter of fear black or white, because black white Jews and of course it does matter if the people care
out the Holocaust believe they're doing it along racial lines because they see Jews is a different rates which we will get to in TAT everybody aids each other. So is it if you are comfortable, if you hear.
Mouse. Should you be worried and ginger Charles say? Oh my god. I ok and then
in another clip again. She says the Holocaust is white people doing stuff to white people and in Tennessee School pull the graphic novel mouse out of their lessons on the Holocaust, because it can
aims some unity and some bad language. Personally,
I'm shocked because you know given the stuff
a mouse, I'm I'm surprised and that's what that's. What made you uncomfortable the fact that there was some nudity
and I mean it's- it's about the holocaust- the killing of six million people, but that didn't didn't bother you what the
the main must show that they don't use the naked part as a kind of way
considered yeah, throw you off from from that they may by history. That makes why, may they look bad well why? This is why we will do in it too. Widely gaps
There is that same idea: white people doing it to white people, so here's the thing. First of all there is this really funny thing when it comes to Judaism, where you ve got
the Anti semitic right and white nationalists who say Jews are not white, Juicer, indifferent race. I've had Richard Spencer. The white nationalist tell me Jew.
Are not european. There they're not dare not what he is right. Jews definitely are not white on among some on the left. You have the view that Jews are white, with
the white privilege that comes with being why Jews or not minorities there just privileged white people? And of course this is where the concept of white passing comes up, and the truth is that, while asking Ozzy Jews are absolutely white, passing there's lots of other Jews Sephardic Jews, misery
he Jews, who are not white passing, but that's not even really what this is about it. There is now
one right answer, but they're kind of is: if you take the view that we're all one race, there is no race right, like that's a view that some people take now there's
economic circles. Where is we're we're all just the human race? Ok, if that's the case, then this is all meaningless right leg. If the view were taking is theirs races, not a thing. Ethnicity is not a thing.
Then there's no black people and there is no white people in their fine. If we accept that there are racial and ethnic groups, so gay rights like if, if that's a converse, if we want to talk about
humans. In that context, Jews are an ethnic group
When I do my ancestry or toys
three in me or whatever it says, you're ethnic.
it is one hundred percent ask an icy jewish. If I convert to Christian,
anti religiously. I'm still one hundred percent asking us in jewish and the origin of this confusion is that Jews are an act. No religious group. Now sometimes people like to say that that's a special pleading, theirs
all other ethnic, religious gluten group. It's made up. No, actually this tons of ethnic religious groups, you just not familiar with them. The cops in Egypt are an ethnic religious group. The ASEAN people of Iraq are an ethnic religious group, which means what you see the Iraq.
These are an ethnic group and I hope and pronouncing this correctly yaws it ISM or easy disease is also a religion you can quit being a religious. He is eating, you would still be ethnically is eating. You might not,
of that Bin, and so some does people say no. This is something it's only it. It only exists with juice. It doesn't that's not true separately. There are also sort of bad faith. People who pretend not to understand this, who just like to attack Jews as privileged and not worthy of our consideration, despite being at the top one
Look at religiously based hate crimes in the United States. Jews are always either at the top or almost there in terms of being victims of religiously oriented hate crimes, and sometimes the perceived whiteness of us
and ass. He Jews is used as a means to write off Anti Semitism and it was very ugly. It was done in a very ugly way with the women's March of a couple years ago,
so that is the Whoopi Goldberg is just wrong now, in terms of her being suspended,
I don't know, I just don't know with all of these tests, but every time we talk about suspenders, I have no idea what's appropriate or or what's not what I want
I also mention is the suspension of Whoopi Goldberg is furthering anti some
troops and you can. You can probably imagine why Whoopi Goldberg suspended for her comments about the Holocaust is proof to those who want to talk
about jewish control of media to say the Jews Gotter, the Jew.
who's who control Hollywood and control the view they got Whoopi Goldberg and it just spurts of so I'm not saying that the suspension is or is an appropriate. But-
for people who want near. But what, when all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail and so the same people who liked many of the same people who liked what these comments are now saying. Her suspension is proof of that conspiracy of Jews to control Hollywood, which we ve talked about many times before so another one of these ugly incidents and I'm curious to hear what you think about
all right. Let's go onto the next segment, which is going to anger many people in my audience I got a ton of it. So let me back up last week we looked at this interview that Jordan Petersen did with Joe Rogan, and the interview was just
word salad, afterwards, salad of meaningless stuff and predictably
a lot of emails from people saying David, you might not have understood what Jordan Petersen was saying, but it made a lot of sense. In particular, his ran about the Bible and, unfortunately you're wrong. What Jordan
this is not about about. The Bible did not make a lot of sense and so we're gonna go through. Now we did an over
of the interview last week now we're going to focusing specifically on Jordan. Peterson's ran about the Bible which now
ex no sense, and there is a really good there. There's this sub read it called ask a historian. Some people would say: ask an historian that that's a grammatical preference and ominous summarize some of the comments.
Here, the red it user who wrote this out is key. We Helena's choose an expert in early greek literature, so let's go through the video
and we are now going to really focus on the substance. It is another,
eligible word salad at its also wrong on the substance. So let's just jump right. It.
So I just walk through the Museum of the Bible in Washington. I was very cool. It's very cool museum of the structure. That's
with the bears. What I figured out, I've been just figure this out this week, so
with a cool. It was called
to walk through, because it's it's colonel
only have one floor, which is the history of the Bible. Let's not exactly that. It's really
What is the history of the book ripe
in many ways the first book was the Bible. Ok,
in many ways the first book was the Bible. Now? What does he mean by that? He says: he's talking about the history of the book, not the content. Okay. So if that's what he means, the first book was not the Bible books date back to the start of the
second millennium BC. The Bible dates to no earlier than the seventh century BC, or B c. As is now often said, some of it came
later than that, even in the new testament is even newer, so ok, first statement. The first book was not the Bible that it just it's a factually incorrect statement. I mean literally
because at one point there was only one book. Ok, I mean
literally. It was the first book because at one point there was only one book at one point:
yes, there was only one book, but it wasn't the Bible. It we it it was. The Bible was not that book. As far as our western cultures concerns one book- no, that's that's not true. The hebrew Bible is made up of a bunch
different texts and they were written over a period of time that is about five hundred years and price
that there were many books that were written it it's. What would he sang? Is it's it's fast
really untrue. There's no man like over explaining it it's just not true and
for a while literally there was only one book and that
Was the Bible and then before it was the Bible, it was a you know what with scrolls and it was writing something Pyrocin, but it was. We were starting to aggregate written text together and it went through all sorts of technological transformations and then it became books
but he could, by the book everybody could buy in the first one of those was the Bible and then became all sorts of books that everybody could buy, but all those boy
in some sense emerged out of that underlying book and that book itself, the Bible?
the book it's a library now there is actually almost nothing to fact check there,
You know that the writings on papyrus those were the books of the time so to say that,
because it was on Papyron they're, not really book, sit it ignore
the reality of the times, not all future books emerged
the Bible either like the odyssey was written in the eighth century Bc Ii that didn't emerge from the Bible
Most of the Iliad is older than the Bible. That's a book whether it was written on piracy or not, and then there's there's this sort of last thing. He says here alpha
Bible isn't a book? It's a library, the Bible isn't a book, it's a library to collection of books. Ok,
It's not really clear what he means by that. The Bible is a book made up of different passages written at different times and assembled together, too pretty vague statement and as the combination of everything else that he said.
straight up wrong: it's not really worth much one where the other to say the Bible is a library. It's not just that if it's
sounds like a word, salad, we're not smart enough to understand it too
All the people emailing. We insisting me how right he is. He is wrong. He is wrong, it doesn't make any sense.
doesn't mean everything he says is wrong, but he's completely wrong about just about everything. He said in that clip
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from the membership of your choice, all right there's something very interesting
happening within the Republican Party, as we ve talked about before, and that is this growing civil war not only between Anti Trump and pro Trump Republicans. But, as I have said before now, a couple of times between, formerly pro Trump Republicans and pro Trump Republicans and Donald Trump, has now shown us the pinnacle of his.
vindictive nature, his rage at anyone who might levy even the mildest criticism against him. He has completely turned on republican Senator Lindsey Gram. Now, let's kind of build up to it. The context here is that Donald Trump has now floated that he might pardon January sixth rioters if he becomes president again in twenty twenty four c
Oh here is Trump saying that for the first time at his rally and Konrad Texas over the weekend, yours a reminder of many people. Ask me about it.
if I run, and if I win, we will treat those
Paul from January six fairly. We will treat them out of it requires pard use. We will give them parties because they are being treated so
fairly so after that, which is a dangerous outrageous statement after that,
Republican senator Lindsey Gram appeared in a tv interview, Lindsey grammars along time friend of trumps. Lindsey, Graham, is a guy who played golf with
from regularly during the presidency got along it. I went to whatever degree trump
friends, Lindsey Grand would be considered or would have been considered, a friend of Donald Trump and Lizzie Grams. Has it's completely inappropriate to do that and it seems like it sort of might be
courage in the exact type of violent destruction of of the capital that we saw in January six years, Lindsey responding to Donald Trump talking about pardons pardons. Do you agree
No, I don't want to send any signal.
it was ok, the file or capital. There are other groups with causes that may want to go down the violent panted. These people get pardoned dangers, linger heresy
Well, I think, is inappropriate. I dont want to reinforce that. The following: the capital was ok, ok, so Trump is asked about that.
during a news MAX interview yesterday with Rob Schmidt, and he completely turns on Lindsey. Graham, he calls Lindsey Grey.
A rhino, meaning, a Republican in name only- and you really see here this disloyal vindictive trump, that is the guy, we know exists. Obviously, but here it's coming up with a guy who was in theory a friend of Donald Trump, take a look. You talked about the potential. If its appropriate
of pardoning. Some of the January six young Linsey Graham said a couple days later. He thinks sets in appropriate what you think.
grams wrong.
I mean Lindsay's, a nice cavities arrival, Lindsays wrong, look.
This is really the kind of bottom
barrel disloyal trump, there there's no loyalty for Trump, his best friends again to the extent he has real friend and I dont know if he D
Trumps relationships with people, including his own family, are very, very strange, his friends,
are immediately enemies if they say just one wrong thing. Gram is just the latest victim here trumped going on to TAT.
About how many of the rioters are now
even guilty. He says that their patriot, some of them they're not guilty of crimes,
and says. Lindsey gram doesn't know what the hell he's.
Talking about in this. This is notable for a couple of reasons which will talk about in a moment and some
These people are not guilty. Many of these people are not guilty. What they ve done to to
These and in many cases, patriots
the soldiers that policeman what they ve done to them
appeared to what they ve done to the other side. Now, by the way, the fact that sometimes their soldiers and policemen that's an aggravating factor these these, your folks that we should be saying wow if soldiers and policemen are so Duluth
that they're doing this, it's not even about criminality, we should be questioning whether they should be soldiers and police for Trump, its, oh, but I mean they're soldiers and policemen they just shouldn't even be charged. I guess you know you up.
Equal justice, and this is an equal partner. So I would
absolutely be prepared and Linsey grim doesn't know what the hell is talking about. If he says that, because you have to have equal justice,
very, very unfair. What's happened to this group of people now, if you claim to be
for law and order and due process. How can you say someone is not guilty before their cases
been adjudicated by the legal system, they don't care about any of their principles. How many times have I said this
thereabout lie in order when it's convenient thereabout due process when it's convenient,
prisons in jails are prate places where we don't have to concern ourselves with conditions when it's not their people who
were there now, all of a sudden trumpet
you're. The conditions in jail that these people are being held in are terrible. We ve been talking about that for decades. We ve done.
About a for decades and then the attacks on
rather the issue of sentences comes up again here and Trump say:
restating that he is, is up for giving pardon scum of being treated very unfairly yeah. I would absolutely give them
Pardon to punish the sound of a cat fairly out or our to the crime, atropine washing, like
twenty times out of proportion. Yeah I mean if there are, if, if their patriots, the way, Donald Trump said why on earth would they get any punishment? So this
extraordinarily dangerous, and this is a hallmark of the fascist dictator, the
dictator wanna be the authoritarian
the autocrat right, wherever you want on that scale friend, the show
former guest fellow Argentinian, Federico Finkel Stein has been tweeting a lot about this when law and order don't work for you. What authoritarian and fashion
dictators, do, is they impose their will instead of law and order? And that's what trumpets anger, we're you ve gotta, do everything right
you can come to the country, but you gotta do illegally. You got everything
legally the way the law says. Well here we have people who are being subjected to what the law says. None in an unknown,
my will that these are patriots is what now matters and I will pardon them. If give.
The opportunity it isn't even matter whether he really would pardon them, which is impossible to know that at this point in time one last clip from this interview here is the reporter. I mean this. This guy should be. He should really be blushing. From the this interview. Here's the reporter Rob Schmidt sort of praying at the altar of
from and saying you know you could be having such a great life, but instead you wanna be president again it it's. It's truly unbelievable as gotta do stuff. As much as you do, I mean most people by your age is one
wax you wanna go back in what a hero, instead of just relaxing trump wants to go back and war zone. I mean you're you're flirting with it right now. You're not gonna knows, and I understand that, but to go back into their. I think people would have to say you're, crazy mirage, simple reason:
We have a great country, that's going to hell and is going to help very fast and when I can ever
country left- and I
is the same rhetoric from twenty. Sixteen we dont we're, not gonna, have a country rage,
I did more than most President's we're doing.
thirty years between the taxes and more damaging the regulations and the business and everything he did. The business I mean think about a meaningless. These things are, he did the taxes. Yoga meant me ass. There was a tax bill past. He did the regulations of no meaning and he did the business. Then I got we had hit with the covered
from China and they gotta pay something for that. They gonna pay something
but he could afford. You know it's probably sixty tree dollars worldwide this anyway, I want subject you two more of it, but a truly
regional interview showing us the vindictive nature of Trump, the childish and jealous nature of trump, and
also, his complete and total willingness to do absolutely anything in complete abandonment of his stated principles in this case law order and due process when it doesn't work out the way he wants it to work out extremely dangerous
all right, one more trump thing before we move on to other things. Donald Trump published a statement yesterday in which he demands that MIKE Pence, actual
be investigated for not steal
the election. Now there's a
really great article in Vanity fair from best Levin about this. Where she describes she did. She describes trumped statement
as febrile and grammatically offensive, which is may be the best way to describe, and he trump statement
that I've ever heard and we're gonna look at that statement in a moment. I encourage you to actually read the article from by best Levin and Vanity fair. But the point here is
that not only is Trump saying he wanted pence to overturn the election and
we ve learned more about this in the last forty eight hours he actually things may be
should even be an investigation into pants. So here is the statement put out by Donald Trump yesterday and it gets it reads like one of these tweets and there's random
capital is Asia and all sorts of different things quote so pathetic to watch the unsolaced committee of political hacks, liars and traders work so feeble,
firstly, to alter the Electoral College ACT so that a vice president cannot ensure the honest results of the election,
in just one year ago. They said the vice president. Has
absolutely no right to ensure the true outcome or results of an election and other
they lied and the vice president did have this right or more pointedly could have sent the votes back to various legislators. For reassessment
after so much fraud and irregularities were found. Now, that's not true. We we looked already at the twelfth amendment and the electoral Vote ACT I believe, is called
eighteen. Eighty seven, I think I am now not
bring it to you. I think it's one thousand eight hundred and eighty seven we looked at this earlier in the week. It's already closed,
to ninety nine point: nine percent of people that MIKE Pence can overturn the election or do the things Trump wanted him to do
the reason that now the languages is considering being updated is specifically because of bad actors like Trump.
Are either deliberately or out of ignorance. Misunderstanding what the powers of the press of the vice president are in counting electoral votes, I'll get back to the statement as it gets even crazy if it were sent back to the legislators or if Nancy Pelosi who is in charge of capital security, had taken my recommendation and substantially increase security
That's a lie by the way there would have been no January. Sixth, as we know it now, it's fascinating to see trumps.
On the one hand, the rioters
being treated unfairly and he'll give pardons to some of them and the sentences are unfair while at the same time saying Nancy Pelosi, upping security. Could
prevented it. If they didn't do anything wrong and thereby
Treated unfairly and being punished when they shouldn't be punished,
why is it we needed sick? What? Why would security need to stop people from doing something that wasn't a problem? It's completely and coherent, as you can tell, and then
trump going on to say, therefore- and this is like the key whacked outline, therefore, the unsolaced committee
should be investigating. Why Nancy Pelosi did such a poor job of overseeing sick,
ready and why MIKE Pence did not send back the votes for research, affection or approval
in that it has now been shown that he clearly had the right to do so. Trump is out of his mind. This is Emily eat. This is officially losing it.
It's also sort of a partial walk back of his previous statement. He now the previous statement was pence could have overturned
he seems to be walking back by saying what pence could and should have done it send it back to the states for recertified nation pence also can't do that, but it is a walk back of that original statement, which was even more unhinged. But the theme here is: it's always someone else's responsibility in someone else's fault. Pence is to blame policies to blame, Brad Reference Burger
the blame Joe Biden, whoever people who allowed voting by male- it's never I'm too.
Lame, because I didn't get in a vote that in convincing people to vote for me, it's it's. That's never. The explanation, and I saw a funny comment on Red it about the sort of like foe Mirage, alpha male status of Donald Trump and read what kind of person listens to him and says? Yes, this is the big strong man as opposed to. This is what it sounds like when my child loses a video game, and this this is completely over the top and beyond the pale, and this is the world of a narcissist, its weak spoken to psychologists and others before everything is someone else's fault,
trot, blames others for losing the election. Trump blames others for not fulfilling what he believed. Her asked them to do in terms of overturning the election and at the end of the day, this will never change when you are
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trusting you pulling out of Florida that I want to talk about, and it's looking better and better for Florida, Governor Rhonda Santas in its looking worse and worse for the former President Donald Trump, when we look at Florida favorability from
way down, and dissent is doing very well in. This is relevant for a few different reasons which were going to talk about, but top level. When we look at the republican field,
twenty twenty four right now there is real,
two names being mentioned, its raw Donald Trump and Rhonda Santas and, of course, there's all of these other discussions about what about Republicans.
back to someone like a Mitt Romney, who I dont think is even remotely interested in it or
whatever else. Those are all perfectly reasonable discussions or something-
saying what about Don Junior, which I think is idiotic but plausible, given the republican electorate or whatever else, but right,
now we're talking about Trump dissent, is in that's exactly why Florida is so important. So let's take a look at the numbers,
A new Paul has Biden losing to descend to send Trump in Florida. But that's not super interesting to me right now that that is that that's gonna be impacted much more by what Biden does New pulled? This? Is? U S eight, it. I knew
horses. Joe Biden is struggling in Florida where more than half of potential voters disapprove of his handling of the economy and of his job Overall Suffolk University, you
say today, network pole of likely Florida voters suggests only thirty. Nine percent approve of Joe Biden job fifty three percent disapprove, while president from one Florida in twenty twenty Biden and the Democrats hope to make a big play for the nations third, most populous state, one that will have thirty electoral votes in twenty twenty four than you pull indicates, their work is cut out for them. The most important numbers here are, and I am trying to find them
Ah, where exactly are they? The new Paul dissent is the first term governor leads. Oh no. This is the Florida salutes it s actually get to the right data. Ok, most republic, many Republican, see dissent is as a potential presidential candidate in twenty
war, but the new Paul has him losing a republican primary forty, seven, forty two Donald Trump, the pole has both trump and dissent is defeating Biden or Clinton in a general election match up in Florida. Dissent is leads Biden. Fifty two, forty four trumps margin over Biden is closer forty, seven, forty four so descend. This is doing better than Trump against Biden in the state of Florida did
and this has not publicly disclosed a run and, of course anything could change and its very very early. Now it's easy to write this off and say David. This is just the Florida pull. This is not a national pole and dissent is, is the governor of Florida, of course, he's gonna do well, but that's exactly why it matters, because its Florida, and because Florida is likely to be so important in upcoming elections, now there's so
much still to happen, including the twenty twenty two mid terms before we get into any even remotely of specific conversation about twenty twenty four, but there's a very clear trend. When you look at all of the sea pack straw polls that we recently seen of republican favour ability, poles open, ended questions about who,
you like to see run. The trends are as follows: Trump favour ability has been declining percentage of Republicans who want trump to run in twenty four has been
lining it now. Barely over half of Republicans, as we talked about earlier this week, what trump to run in twenty twenty four and when we talk about who other than Trump is.
You mention the only person with any
remotely significant level of support is Rhonda Santas. This isn't
another reason why I should mention run two sentences. Re election,
campaign going on right now is so important could run. Dissent is lose reelection in November and still run in twenty twenty four successfully. Yes, he could he could, but it is much more likely that republican voters would support.
The guy who one reelection in twenty two, then the guy who lost it- and this just has to do with the idea of supporting a loser for some bigger office when they lost their last election. Has it happened of course
It has, of course it has, but this is another reason why, if we could knock out dissenters, it wouldn't make it an even bigger uphill battle for him and
before and the reason why I say that if you you might be saying well, but if it isn't that what you want trump know that the issue is dissent is, is a less incompetent, but just as dangerous version of Trump in my mind and the fact that he's less cartoonish but has the same disastrous political instincts in my mind, would make him more effective at being able to destroy the countries,
I see dissent is more dangerous than trump. For that reason, we're going to continue following the numbers and we're going to continue following the Republican civil war speak by the way. Actually, speaking of the Republican Civil WAR, George W Bush has maxed out. His donations took two anti trump Republicans who supported the impeachment of Donald Trump. I'm talking about Liz Cheney, yes, the daughter of bushes, former VP and Alaska republican Senator Lissom Rakowski. Now let me give you the facts first, but dont assume what I think is important about the story, because it's not George W Bush is a good guy business. Insider reporting, George W Bush MAX's out political,
nations to trump impeachment supporters, Liz Cheney and least some rakowski. Ok. Former President George W Bush gave the maximum allowed political contributions
two Wyoming Representative List, Cheney and Alaska, Senator early some rakowski to Republicans who supported impeaching Trump over the January sixth capital riot new disclosures filed with the Effie, see
said. Bush gave Cheney fifty eight hundred dollars on October twenty Eightth and on December thirty first, he gave Rakowski twenty nine hundred for her primary. The FCC sets the limits on political contributions. The story here is not ended.
Is a key thing. The story here is not bushes, a great guy. We should elect people like Bush. We should elect people like me,
Cheney and summer cows, we should rehabilitate George W Bush is image now that he's painting and doesn't like tromp. No, that is not the story, and it's a very unfair.
JANET thing and I dont know to what degree their cynically doing it into what degree their honestly doing it. There are some on the left who love to take stories like this one that I'm doing and say look at
these folk, leftists,
who now love Bush, despite him being a disastrous war criminal in getting us into these two were now. The story here is not what it
a guy George W Bush is the story. Here is the republic,
in civil war,
may be the best chance. The left has to help itself, because the left is increased
we are unable to help itself in any other way. That's all this is. I am not optimistic about the left.
the United States, by which I mean the most left elements of the Democratic Party which at this point is the one even possible vehicle for the left to do anything in the? U S, I don't have any confidence that in twenty twenty two and twenty twenty four Democrats, slash leftists, are well positioned and prepared to get anything done.
So I'm hoping republicans- will help us that's all this is, and the more Republicans are divided the more potential there is for an opportunity to defeat them and to prevent them from taking the house, the Senate, the White House over the next two election cycles. Let's not forget that every single Republican elected official that supported impeachment is now participating in the obstruction of of letting Joe Biden do anything. These are not
people and even if they dont like Trump, their obstruction of Biden may well help Donald Trump Get re elected in three years. So it's ok to recognise tromp was more incompetent than George W Bush.
and still not like George W Bush, and recognise that Bush donating to these Republicans might foam met the republican civil war to our advantage. We can do all of these things. We can walk into come at the same time. At least some of us can there is this impulse by some, maybe to sweep George W Bush is disastrous misdeeds under the rug
because he's painting pictures and ensuring a cough drop with Michelle Obama and donating to Anti Trump Republicans, but he was not a good president. His increase of the powers of the presidency are probably to someone
responsible for allowing some of Donald Trump worst abuses when he was President Bush got us into
some of the long as wars in american history, one based on a phoney intelligence case that he sent Colin Powell to make em he expanded. Torture were not praising Bush and die
it's that that's the end of it and in this is how most people would behave. You know when you attack someone's fan,
the or them the way. Donald Trump did George W Bush for years. It's normal that George W
I would say a minute donate to the people that are against the sky- did just totally reasonable TED crews did the opposite. Donald Trump called TED Cruises, wife, ugly and then tat grew spell in line and said. Trumps amazing is fantastic. His gray, we love, we love trump. Most people would
Do that most people would do with George W Bush is doing, it doesn't make him a hero and it doesn't make em someone we align with politically period full, stop end of story. Let's follow this republican civil war and see to what degree it can be useful to the left to try to get some winds or at least prevent some losses in the next two election cycles.
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a couple of newsworthy items that I want to touch on the Trump records that have been sent to the riot Committee, the January Sixth Riot Investigative Committee of the House of Representatives. Some of those records were torn up and taped back together
and this is an m o that were all right-
familiar with with the Trump Organization and administration, the Washington Post reporting some record sent to the January six committee. Were torn up taped-
Act together, mirroring a trump habit, a woman
national archives and Records administration handed over
trove of documents to the House Select Committee investigating the January Sixty insurrection, some of the Trump Whitehouse Records, had been ripped up and then take back together. According to three people familiar with the records former
President Tromp was known inside the White House for his unusual and politically unlawful habit of tackling presidential records into shreds and tossing them. On the floor
creating a headache for records management. Analysts whom it meticulously used scotch tape to piece together, fragments of paper that were sometimes as small as confetti political reported in twenty eighteen. But despite the Presidential Records ACT which requires the preservation,
of memos letters, notes, emails, faxes and other written communications related to a president's official duties. The former presidents in frangible shredding practices apparently can
and you'd well into the latter stages of his presidency, the National
guys, on Monday, took the unusual step of confirming the habit saying in a statement that records turned over from the Trump Whitehouse Quote, included paper records that have been had been torn up by former president Trump. The statement comes in response to a question from the Washington Post about whether some January sixth related records had been ripped up and taped back together. This is about seven hundred pages of documents transmitted to the January Sixth committee.
Last month's now this you might remember that it not only ripping up documents is something Donald Trump would frequently do. There are claims that, from eight documents.
this is crazy, but we reported on it back in twenty eighteen and it's all part of the same thing. Newsweek report, Trump, eight sensitive talk him
Turco and meeting former. Why has two aims?
former White House aid O Moreau sought man ago Newman has said she walked on President Donald Trump eating pay.
After a meeting with lawyer of hay hook up, this is so insane and what she believed was an effort to destroy sensitive information. This was from her book unhinged, an insider account of the Trump White House
Newman, makes a series of disturbing and amusing allegations about the president's conduct, Newman, recalls,
I saw him put a note in his mouth since Trump was ever the germ of folk, I was shocked to hear
here to be chewing and swallowing the paper. It must have been something very, very sensitive, so listen, whether Trump, eight, no
or not. There is no doubt at all that, even if all neurosis lying there is no doubt whatsoever that the ripping up of the notes was a common thing. We reported at the time that there was like a team of a couple. People that were their job was to pick up confetti sized pieces of paper and tape them back together to remain in compliance with presidential records and the like. And, of course this is.
the behaviour of an innocent person and when it comes to records about what happened on in the lead up to in the immediate aftermath of the January six tromp riots, why
He be ripping those up and, of course, innocent until proven guilty all of that stuff. But this show is not a court of law to court of opinion, my opinion, and it is not, in my opinion, the behaviour of an innocent person last thought
on this. I don't have to remind you that just about every promise that was made by Donald Trump leading up to his administration was a lie or it didn't come true. One of those claims was, we will be the most transparent administration ever
remember that Trump had one press secretary who held zero or one briefings in her entire tenure
It was a relatively short tenure. I admit, and also remember, that Trump ran on Hilary can't be trusted
is not transparent. Hilary hiding emails, pillar,
deleted, email. Hilary, you
private email, Hilary can't be trusted with sensitive information, Hilary can be trusted with classified information, and it all happened during the Trump administration Trump spilling secrets that were received from Ally Israel to a russian spy recruiter in the oval office. Remember that one Ivanka Jared the whole team using private email throughout their work for Donald Trump, in the administration and on and on and on so there's five or six stories here and shockingly. The one of trumpet
eating notes is not even the craziest or more dangerous one. Okay, last thing on again: every day we are learning more about. The insanity that took place in the act
the mouth of the November election and those in the lead up to the January six riots
by now you
have no doubt heard. If you ve been watching my shoulders,
turning to the podcast over the last year. All of the different ways in which they were trying to get a hold of the fact
that Joe Biden won the election and that they wanted to try to overturn it. We ve talked about sixty three court filings, all of which were found to be without merit sum to be somewhere found where there was no standing
and many of them found to be without merit. We ve learned about. Oh, my pants is gonna flip the election somehow either by something he does himself or by sending it back to the states. Or would you know whatever the case may be
We also heard about declaring a national emergency, slash martial law, and there was this idea of seizing the voting machines. Now what you do with the voting machines once you sees them to flip results, weaken specula
We don't exactly know, but we now have reason to believe that Donald Trump himself, whose shocked by this Donald Trump himself, was much more involved than previously known in the plan to seize those voting machines. The New York Times breaking the story this week, Trump had role in weighing proposals to seize voting machines, knew it
ants- show that the former president was more directly involved than previously known in plans developed by outside advisers to use national security agencies to seek evidence of fraud. Six weeks after election day with his hold on power, slipping Trump directed Giuliani to make a remarkable call Trump wanted him to ask D a chess if it could legally take control of voting machines in key swing states. Three people familiar with the matter said remember that Giuliani did so calling the departments acting deputy secretary, who said he lacked the authority to audit or impound the machines, Trump pressed Giuliani to make the inquiry
after rejecting a separate effort by his outside advisers to have the Pentagon, take control of the machines and the outreach to the Department of Homeland Security came not long after Trump. In an oval office meeting with then attorney General William BAR raised the possibility of whether the Justice Department could seize the machines. A previously undisclosed suggestion that Mr Bar immediately shot down the new accounts show that Trump was more directly involved than previously known. In exploring these proposals to seize voting machines ass, he grasped unsuccessfully for evidence of fraud that could help him reverse the twenty twenty election right now, everyone's attention is
focused on the coup and on election fraud, and that makes sense, but look at how much we ve learned just about that and then think imagine for a moment how much other crazy stuff was going on that we still do
know anything about that will likely be uncovered about the last four years. It will probably take conservatively another four,
Here's to figure all of that out and it could even take closer to eight to ten years, for it all to shake out in terms of its repercussions, it's very clear that they did attempt to coup, but they seemed not that competent added they seemed is competent at at doing the coup as they were at governing when Donald Trump was president
and it failed, and it became a sideshow, but we can't write. It often not worry because, as I said earlier, descent, this is a more competent trump and that makes them more dangerous and these same techniques. Now
the experience of twenty twenty, knowing where the hold ups were knowing, where it ended up stalling with a more competent person at the helm, could be a very dangerous proposition and we ve heard from
retired military generals who say if Trump had had the generals on his side, could have been a very different outcome we ve heard about.
if there had been more willingness in the house and particularly the Senate, to attempt to reject their challenge some of the results in a more serious way in multiple states. It could have been a different outcome. Now, one more thought about this trump, a role
in trying to seize voting machines. Remember when William BAR quit
seemingly out of the blue as attorney general on December twenty third December. Twenty third was the dates of William Bars, resignation letter
did William BAR Sir
the writing on the wall about what was coming on January. Six, maybe not specifically, but knowing this is potentially back
add- and I dont want to be associated with it and that's why he abruptly quit, because if you consider the timing, the meetings where the idea of a national emergency was
loaded, the meetings where the question about can we seized the voting machines. All of this stuff happened between the November elections in December. Twenty,
Third, when William BAR quit- and it seems plausible at least that bar new or suspected that something inside
was coming and decided to get the hell out of here before it did, doesn't make bar any better of an attorney general. It's just bar acting out of self interest. The timing makes sense at some point, maybe we'll know for sure
we have a voice mail number. That number is too one nine to David P
I am really really really regretting something I did on the show two weeks ago now some one said David: if you
had to leave the country. Where would you go? I have no
and to leave the country. I don't think it's gonna be next.
sorry to leave the country, but I answered the question anyway and I said well, I could go back to Argentina any time because I was born there, so I could buy that can go any time as a jewish and
George I could go to Israel at any time.
working on getting european citizenship through my gun,
and father who fled Poland before will, but I'm not planning to do any good.
The number of messages I have received now from people saying David, I'm cancelling my membership because I dont,
to be with someone who's gonna abandon us. If the going gets up all these different things, I regret even talking about it, and now this is sort of the height of it. This collar said David. You planning to leave, makes you seem like the unpaid
Arctic, Jew, who will take his Kapital and leave with no loyalty, we ve gotten to the anti semitic tropes part of the leaving the country timeline, take a listen to this.
He did it gave. My name is just I'm calling you my recent fragments weapons
leaving the United States if things go. North Korean raises a problem. Concerns that were borne out in Alex Joneses response does, but he is the first concern is reinforcing the true. The Jews aren't really patriotic her good citizens in here. You please, get bad luck. The second concern is that promotes the truth. The Jews are global, said, will pick up their capital was split
better market at first or trouble. I'm saying this is a guy who, by right, maybe Israel or may go to Spain, but I won't.
either one of those places except and only if I'm a tourist if things get bad here, that's all because we get back.
Guys, I'm not leaving in a true distill, Pia the likes of which
I was imagining when I answered the question. We would all be looking to
there wouldn't be any more tourism, it would be an emergency. We would all be looking for safe haven me being jewish, wouldn't change that this was the question asked by the ADI
If you were to leave because things got so bad, where would you go and its true? If I left, I'm not gonna, go
to Thailand or Norway, where I both dont, speak the language and have no one
to actually go to legally. If I left, I would be more likely to go too far
Tina, because I was born there or to Israel for life
legal reasons, but I'm not
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