The David Jackman Shell, David Tagamet, died guarded. Alright welcome to the programme much to discuss so, let's get right into Donald Trump is starting to lose support with white voters. This, the one demographic group that at least until recently Donald Trump still have add supporting him. We looked at a cross section of pulling a couple of weeks ago and we saw Joe Biden is winning the black vote Joe by is winning the latino vote, Joe by is winning women, Joe by winning the college educated. However, you want to slice indicted, Donald Trump Resistance line. Demographically was white voters, particularly white men, particularly on edge

created white voters, but unfortunately for tromp good for the world. Donald Trump has lost some ground with white voters relative to twenty. Sixteen, and it could be, could write, depends on who votes depends on whether votes are and had properly. This could be trumps undoing in November. Let's look at some numbers in twenty sixteen Donald Trump one white voters in Minnesota by seven and I now Trump is losing white voters in Minnesota by two. That's a nine point. Swing against Trump Minnesota White voters in Wisconsin Trump one on edge, created white women by sixteen in the last election and he's now losing uneducated white women by nine. That's a twenty five point swing against Donald Trump, in Pennsylvania, where we have a lot of data on this Biden and Trump are tied

among white voters, Trump one white voters in Pennsylvania and twenty sixteen, but if you slice it down even further Donald Trump Extra dealing with Pennsylvania, suburban white voters and this, been a gradual shift. First, it was the college educated white voters that start. To move away from Donald Trump now you're, even seeing Non College, educated white voters starting to move away from Donald Trump now to be fair and to be thorough, there are some other slices were Trump has improved since twenty sixteen, so it you look. It Pennsylvania, suburban white women, trumps, doing ok with them. Voters who dislike both trumpet Hilary and twenty. Sixteen trump is doing, ok with them, but these are potentially significant problem. Four Donald Trump again with a major caviar. If everyone's votes are counted now, what's fascinating about

This is that as white voters have moved away from Donald Trump Trump, has been more and more aggressively throwing out sort of like red meat for white voters. Lately talking about C leaving the suburbs, which has very racially coded language, he even lamented voters. Who have to live around refugees and immigrants in various parts of the country. He did that at a recent. I think it was Pennsylvania. North Carolina rallies, if I recall correctly, but regardless white voters. Slowly, moving away from Donald Trump now will it be enough to make a difference in the final calculation? We don't know, we don't know the the strategies that Trump has left, actually win are dwindling. One such strategy that tromp was hoping for was announced a vaccine in October and unfortunate for him two days ago, the fetters, all drug administrate. The FDA said that They are making putting in place stricter guidelines to approve a vaccine

an emergency use, authorization, that's bad for Trump he's unlikely to get whatever boost. He might have gotten from a vaccine. Announcement will trump push for some emergency stimulus checks. Right before the election. I dont know that even as the time I really dont, particularly with the Senate, go into recess in just what is it about twenty one days really just three weeks, so I dont know what can do and my son's, particularly from Donald Trump recent refusal to commit to a peaceful transition of power if he loses from Donald trumps recent a revelation that we got about a strategy to try to mess with the electors. If you were to lose my hands, is trumps. Focus is no longer on actually winning it's on having a strategy to plausibly clay the results were rigged and to snatch the victory from Joe Biden. If Joe Biden were to win This is one of those stories that is only shock.

If you're not paying attention Donald Trump, reportedly, said Jews here we go now Jews. Our only in it for themselves. After a recent call with jewish leaders, according to a new report Is anybody really shocked by this, and I know people will often come back and say, but trot Son, in laws. Jewish trump can't be anti semitic. Oh, but trumped daughter, converted to Judy. A moment, trumps, grand kids or jewish all, but Trump move the embassy from TEL Aviv to Jerusalem. I even got a call about this actually on on voicemail earlier this week, which I played for you ve. This is why all of that stuff is is meaningless by every reasonable estimation. Donald try! has the same tired old stereotypical views about jewish folks about black folks about hispanic folks, it's all the same stuff so

Yes, Jews are only in it for themselves. This is what Trump reportedly set in front of officials according to a new. Or from the Washington Post. More than two dozen current and former administration officials told the Washington Post about Trump I've views on race and described racist remarks, that he has made while in office it's a widely source story. More than twenty people talking about what they observed at the Washington Post rights that the president's characterisation of Jews happened after he got off the phone with jewish lawmakers. During a conference call last week with American Jews Trump reportedly said we love your country referring to Israel as it is well is the country of American Jews, which is another trope. He also told an audience of jewish America that is really leader. Benjamin Netanyahu is your

Prime Minister, which is wild Trump, has previously called Jews. Who are democrats disloyal and these are all common anti semitic troops that have been around for a long time. The idea that American Jews hold some greater allegiance to Israel or dual loyalty, many. These are folks who have never even been to Israel that They are more loyal to Israel than their actual countries of birth or of residents, and at this point the surprising thing is not that Trump is accused of saying this stuff this surprising thing. Is that anybody's shocked by it? Now, let's, let's digging a little more and into one aspect of this. This idea this trope Jews arena for themselves? Most people are, generally speaking, concerned with the role own, well being look at Republicans right now with the Supreme Court. Are they

this for anybody but themselves in their own, that the preservation, of their ideology, this is the absurdity of some of these troops that are stuck to one group. Oh, you know the troop of the Jews love money therein it for the money to do, but you wipe bore hate money. Do white people not care about money, black people, don't care about money? Seeks there against money. Women, hate money, middle aged people, hate money, that's part of the absurdity of some of these troops that some of them are so vague and meaningless that it actually be. Goals the mind how people can seriously consider them assessments of a particular group, its absurd and trump, of course, is able to so casually go from one racist or xenophobic trope to the next, almost second nature to him. It really seems to come very naturally to him now. Do I tell you this, because I think it's going to

all through the election results. Now the people that are supporting trumpet this point are: are going to be dissuaded because trumps said juicer only in it for themselves people who are already voting for trump at this late stage in the game are not going to be done waded because of trumps. Racially tinge message, that Joe Biden will destroy the suburbs by looking at how housing policy can have racial precautions, these people, or with Trump, matter what the reason I tell you about this issue, just remind you that very often we just have to believe what's. Plane is day if it looks like a duck if it sounds like a duck, if it walks like a duck. Mostly it's a duck. That's really the cons. Of outcomes razor from the scientific world, and that is exactly what we are seeing here would Donald Trump. No surprise whatsoever, he is exactly what he appears to be a. We have a fantastic programme. For you today we are going to talk about what is that

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today with our colleagues from the nine eight zero area code collar from ninety zero. What's your name and where you calling from today hello, yes, that's you sweet high monies span and calling for Moscow liner. What's going on, I just have one covered one long question side are no notice that you do other rights like laughed independence, voices on you to make this clear about like boat out Donald Trump, yeah Spine and then walked, and then we will push bite and laughed or waffle, mimic charm of all alike.

I just don't get that. I cannot see that space where a big as a big of a lie as like oh bite, is going to be the next day after day are or wherever. Just because like what level of protests in organizing is going to push Biden where that two hundred dead American haven't where there are millions of unemployed. Americans will also locker Healthcare had a person where that, like months, are protesting against police brutality has pushed him left, and we still got that, worthy waller. Second, but don't let's examined that if we can, if you compare Joe Biden today to Joe Biden even five years ago, nevermind, ten or fifteen or forty seven is Donald Trump likes to do the moon. To the left has been dramatic. Has it not? I mean you look. It binds position today on health care which includes you know.

And it's not single payer but its public option, open to lowering the Medicare age by five or ten years, which would give millions of people access subsidizing to a higher level of income. Re, always we're talking about tens of millions of more people getting healthcare. You look it cannabis. Just coming out in saying full federal decriminalization of cannabis, like he's already moved to the left, and I think what we mean when we say we continue to push is when we look at that OS and Senate the more left. Those legislative bodies go the more progressive be the bills that get put on President Joe Biden desk. It all seems coherent to me quite fear just as you dont want here, ok, but you said it was one of the biggest lies. You heard that whose lying who are the people lying like you, but it may not happen, and you may not be confident in it, but I dont know

it's a big lie, so I would say, like you or perhaps I may be changed from the young Turks or David Doll from Russia National. Like a few, these will say: perspiring lap understand yours. What that does that looked like? Did you guys, like millions of people, lost their health insurance? Two hundred thousand dead Americans and buying still love endorse, a pool like Medicare for all Universal Health care plan and even then like on a public asset price pressure that, like a political article that says it they might not even present a public action just again by Gordon Brown Quoits for working with Republicans? Ok! Well, that's that's speculative and we have to see if that happens by day. I just I think I just disagree with with the framing I mean it. You know we have to understand. What what do we have control over? What do we not have control over different people had different preferences in the prime

binds the nominee now the options of wheat. We now now that's beyond our control. Now the option is whose President Tramper Biden we can vote. If Biden is president, then what can we can? Try? We can't go back and make Bernie the President, so all we can do lobby and elect the most progressive possible. Bennett and House like we did. We have to focus on what we can do and I just don't see sort of the point of speculation. That people are lying about. Pushing Biden left its. What can we do and is actually something that is a coherent, cohesive strategy. If Joe Biden becomes president a lot like people person, you got that right belie where people want to push him while ok, the idea. Why. First of all to the last job, but the last ten years are evidence. Look it binds putting look. It binds policy on health care economics

and energy today and look at what he will Part of in terms of policy during the Obama administration- I mean even in the last four years, Joe Biden has been pulled significantly to the left, but the whole way. And even lower age for medication, for pragmatic here did debt. That may be, but you look at the sum total. I mean look at the look at you Economic policy that Joe Biden is proposing. Look at on capping social Security tax doing away with a lower rate for capital gains on. Turning to a minimum tax for corporations a deep. These are big things that Hillary Clinton from what I recall was not even talking about, and twenty sixteen list I gotta run cause. I've got a lot of people holding, but I think I would I would maybe right rethink some of your ideas and see if there really passing the sniff test. Our at my friend. Thank you. So much appreciate the call

let's see let's go next to let's go to our collar from the seven seven four who noted as a woman from Massachusetts or Rhode Island. Does that make sense of seven some ford? You know who that is. I believe that is exactly what was your name for some reason. We didn't get it last time again: ok, what's on your mind, John yeah out living under the borders, I still have a mass number about it. I'm actually improper ok, that's allowed now Joe you're coming in so hot. Please try to keep the phone just a little further from your mouth and you will be able to hear hear you much more perfectly all right in his there. Oh my god that so much better! Thank you! I'm kidding! I showed you you, not anyone who work for the tens is this year enumerate or anything not personally, but I've had them come to my house. Ok show

I did. I was enumerate or for three weeks and there might be some cause for concern coming up in the next ten years. With the result tat, this was a complete mess. Yes, I did it ten years ago and of course, of the much of different political climate than when it is now right. But this is horrible. They tried a completely new system, they try doing it all. By smartphone and egg was constantly giving of errors. It would just drop us from time to time. It would send us a completely wrong neighborhoods. Ah- and there was a lot of people who did not want to be counted or people who you would answer the door and he would be crying finding out a family member just got cove it. Oh my god we're coming.

Is the case with the virus and like all crafted they have it. Did they breed on needs in things like that? No, let me ask you this job. Let me ask you this: when someone didn't want to be counted, what was the explanation why? Why would that? What did they say? A lot of times even lying claim they did it online or offended you around. The may I can understand with what's going on, I buy it, they did it online, it would have been coming up. A few people did get flat out aggressive and there they dont want Trop knowing their business, that they don't think. We need to know also, while providences a very ethnically diverse area alive hispanic resident, and they thought that that citizenship question would ride beyond their right right. Right rail been clarified that we can start asking about that and they didn't know like it. I didn't die so that dangerous, even we're not even answering the door. That's interesting because I pray firstly said once the citizenship question was thrown out, that the damn

it may well have been done merely by proposing at and that it may not even get to people that it was thrown out and it sounds like you're saying: that's exactly what happened. Yeah we get, I had the repercussions of that as soon as they talked about it. I just thought all man I wanted to do at the hearing. Gonna be a man anyway. Even worse than what we expected. It do you think the voters have moved adequate training, for doing this during a pandemic, or were you just kind of thrown to the wolves? We re pretty much down the walls because they couldn't really do any improving training. They had a few online video. They had us watch while by for the most part, the following system would kind a walk you through it by a when it was company just conduct for being over itself, you don't just causing more and more problems and at one point they just started robbing people, because we had too many like do not answers and things like that.

Like yeah, you know, you're a fine neighborhoods have gone out. We have no more need for you, the guy. Well, I wish, I could say, are reminded dollars. I wished say what you were telling me was surprising, but we ve been talking about this for the last four years that this is exactly how the census was going to go and Jen. It sounds like it's going exactly that poorly yeah, so there's going to be some bad blow out from it in the next few years. The results, because there's going to be representative that we're not going to get school that we don't get here all because you knows all these tens of thousands of we're not counted right right, right, all right Jen! Thank you. Thank you for letting us know. What's going on. I wish you had better news. Thank you David. You have a great day. Alright, you to take care. There's a gene from the epicenter of the border, between Massachusetts, an Rhode Island, let's go to oh, I want to go to John from filling

there are meagre, Domine, Ghana, John from Philly. How are you today, my friend every day we how are user good. How are you gonna do I have a question for you. I have been holding brought to you before. Why I am very much clearer. Why do the Democrats sometime a bullet it's so weak. I don't know like an old boy. My way obeying oil on easily bang. Although for the report again to do anything, they wine fail to realise this is almost every down, because even when they are no empower yummy when they are even in power that I went daily how's, the Senate, the presidency report again, guy schooling, oil for anything like envy,

to relay easily on our life. I don't know how I got spoil now: you're you're, explaining it beautifully. I don't have an answer for you. I wish I had so. Here's the one thing, I would say John there's something to be said for not stooping down down to the level of the right, like I understand the concept of the right to lax. Morality, they are total hypocrites, do whatever the hell they'll say one thing and twenty sixteen in order to prevent under a nominee to get on the court and then they'll say something different and they have no morality whatsoever and there's something to be said about not stooping to their level, you're, bringing up a good point, which is at some point. Don't you need to start winning. Like a day for me is will they re air with their schooling or where all the time, yes,

we largely be lonely we'll be right, some done, they never allow. You then lay they have the very thought it doing anything filthy yeah, but the problem. Is you know? I do think that the problem is if the left he uses the rights dirty tactics to win. Aren't we as bad as they are in some sense. I don't know I don't know the answer. Maybe you're right, but I share your concern: share your concern and what's going on now with the Supreme Court, is it's too it's disgusting, but it's also totally predictable. Write her Vieira, John you voting in person by male. What are you doing? I'm thinking, do goin to boy in person with our test boy and will you

to do early, voting or November? Thirty think I don't know because in Pennsylvania I dont know when they open the ripe gumbo in person. I think it's you, I think it's very said is very. There are ways I well, I was gonna, do not go Doyle began to us. As once again our right John appreciate the phone call all right. They were you ever wonder for those who are guilty of take her back. There John from Philly original from the de. Are we love John? Let's go next through our collar from the three four seven area code who's calling today from three four seven My name is Michael and banks were taking my call

I am a committed democratic, Michael, I'm sorry to have to interrupt you. You're gonna have to you're gonna, have to back away from the final little or or drop your voice down to a more reasonable level of Europe. Europe I'm about to blow and eardrums. Okay, so committed Democrat sickly pictures, old native New Yorker, and I have one major concern. Yes hell: do you think that the Democratic Party is really really prepared with strategies, to deal with the Red Mirage right. Ok, let me explain what that is two peoples of so red mirages, the idea that, because Biden, voters are much more likely to vote absentee that you could have states were its close. On election night. Trump has small lead and then the days that follow as the absentee ballots recounted. Joe Biden takes a lead and the fear is that in the

intervening time, Donald Trump will use the lawyers. We know he has ready to go to try this. Up the counting of absentee ballots or do other things. So your your question was: do I think them. Rats are ready to deal with that. The answer is no. I think that they are partially ready. We did get a report late last week that Joe Biden and the democratic power we are getting Numa, lawyers ready to try to deal with this, but that the problem is that you fundamentally have an advantage if you're playing off and because you know what the strategy as if you are playing defence, in this case by definition, you're at a disadvantage, because your plane defence, against what you believe they are going to try, but they may try things you're not prepared for so I think that, on a scale of one to ten, the left is probably at a five or six in terms of being ready to deal with red Mirage. Okay, so it like it for,

a further with my question on. You know how, for example, when democratic candidates are preparing for debate and what I have like, for example, right now, you have people to judge supposedly, is helping Camilla Harrison use playing the role of my pen ripe and what they're doing their practicing and their anticipating, like one anticipate chess move sure. So, if that the approach so I would like to, I would think that we would be eating to do that enters the painting upper, rightly of different, moved. No doubt we would have to make because, as you correctly stated, we're not gonna know exactly all the other things had trouble to, and yes they because there are no sense, your aptly right, but I'm just wondering, is there anything that any of us could do? I'm just an average citizen? You have a prominent position in the political world, but I'm just wondering. Is there anything that we bear?

can be done to get the message across to the leading the leaders of the Democratic Party that they need to be fully strategizing in every single way possible to anticipate every possible move them. Against my back. So unfortunately, I think on this one being so close to November, if the democratic already doesn't already know that they need to be ready for this. I dont know that there is much we can do. I think what we can do is to make sure that, at the individual level, people understand, for example, you are in line to vote before poles clothes. You can vote, dont be tricked into being told you can't vote right, because this is how they could turn rugged. Redid do affect turn out. We need to sort of informed Let the individual level, because we're only six five and a half weeks out at this point. If the democratic parties not ready for Red Mirage, it's over nothing you were I at this point can do. Sadly, I hope that they are ready. I dont know if they are yeah well, my obviously MIKE

so it is not alleviate it, but your answer is absolutely right on the money as usual. Thank gave itself, and we thank her. What you do you have a great show, and I just want your clarity, in your analysis and New York and contributions to the political discussion so valid to keep doing what you do. And I wish you all the yellow continued success pleasure Having you on, I really do appreciate the phone call. Let's take a quick break. If you our holding and that's an if don't hang up because we're going right back to the throne momentarily David, bagman: Shell, David Pachmann, dotcom deterrent,

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northern California? Hello! Yes, that's! U near me! Yes, I can't ok, no or by actually in Oklahoma number, but my family moved from Oklahoma to Virginia actually and our area coded two thousand picked by thank, but I never changed. My phone number beautiful er- I never it updated. I just have two quick question for you: dare not really it's pretty complicated, subject better, I'm actually fifteen. So I can't go get a lottery. Unfortunately, and I guess I just got introduced through the political space everything the krona virus, you know hit Santa started ravaging the world and everything saw as wandering as they sixteen year old. How can I help the democratic cause? Obviously it's not a guarantee whatsoever and any thinking

and then there is no absolute guarantee that we can win right. So listen in the immediate, you can't vote, but you can phone bank okay, so you and figure out. Do you want a phone bank fur Joe Biden? Do you want to phone bank first, some particular Senate race or house race? So so I think that's one area I don't think, there's any restrictions on sixteen year old campaigning in other ways, so you can get in for correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you can get involved in campaigns. In a variety of different ways. I would also remind you that, in the mid terms that are just two years away, you will be able to vote by then so, certainly that

you're you're very, very high, suddenly plan on it yeah. I get my plan on voting by them and my fucking question. What thank you for the answer, but my second question: do you think my generation is gonna? Bring anything new to the table? Could obviously, indeed the entire political spectrum right now is very poor. Up to everyone to do what they can do, the wind and they don't actually care about the average person. So do you think the millennium generation and my generation will actually change anything. Or do you think it's just the kind of ongoing pattern. Tat will never end and workers can be stuck in this, and with cycle so I think the answer is yes, we, Oh you will, if we and you want to, and if you look back in history, theirs always been this idea that whatever is the up and coming generation there are lazy. Their burn out they're, not gonna, do it. You know this was said during about the hippy movement in this

these and Seventys they're not gonna, do anything except for the ones that went to Vietnam because they were drafted there, It was want to hang out and smoke pod and go to Woodstock and all of the stuff. It's been set, at the millennium generation. It's been set about some of you know now younger than millennials older, their lazy and because of their group of technology, and this in that listen We single one of these generations if we want to if they want to, is going to be able to change the system, but it comes down to understanding that you need to get involved and involved in a serious way and if not, then it'll just be more of the same as your put correctly pointing out yeah or back. Thank you so much for the feedback. I just wondered why your thoughts were you been in the kind of boys, the breeze and I've been following your lives strain on the body for the date and hopefully the completely go wrong for Joe Biden. I hope you will then thank you,

for being that boy, the brazen Vanessa time of chaos. Thank you for calling in I'm so glad that euro engaging in politics at a young age and listened the debates could go wrong for Trump too. Don't underestimate that possibility her! That's all right. My friend great to hear from you Let's go next continuing our tour of the United States via phone. Let's go to the eight five zero area code collar from eight five What's your name and where are you calling from David? This is Philip and carbon. You have got a phone number there. They look at the matter. What's going on well again,

two questions. First about it, you stay. The news recently were tromp actually admitted had game plan as far as the Supreme Court. Tat second goes to the Supreme Court and arguing against Melling Ballot and try to take over that way. Yet absolutely so tramp tramp has said he is counting on the court system to help him in November. He says it's to prevent it from being rigged. Really it's rigid and the federal appeals court could be a part of it who knows, depending on what happens, the Supreme Court could be a part of it absolutely right. The second become one addressing that it saves, though the republic and the only way they can get ahead is through their cheating at least that's the kind of like what good does not come cheap. Over the last seven years of I'm sure you know ass, you go there seven elections we had one republican wind by popular vote studies Electra

knowledge and the jury, Mahar Mandarin and all the judges that recently Mcconnell was taking it saved? The whole game plan is to stay in power for Europe with the republic to stay in power just by trying to steal the boat and oppress the boats. And if you look here, you know you look at Will the CNN Box lose it on wine? Every byways laughed at me all the things that we would all the thing everybody is actually boding pool where what voting it easy is left, leaning polity, but we don't do that reflected in the White House, because the boating issued its not. There does not easy to vote. So I believe that if we can ever start have a conversation about making voting a national holiday about actually doing like Australia, perhaps where they have a fine, if you dont bone or having the day art and just make it easier more accessible, I think we could finally going. One direction is conscious of it back and forth ridiculous. Stop every border eight years actually gets them.

They are to get better happen unless we do something you know with the Supreme Court, which can be very difficult. Not this point will mandatory voting is kind of its own question, and I think that that is a separate issue, but you ve beautifully pointed out that we the system that what we know we talk abstractly about checks, balances and all of the stuff, but we have a system that in practice allows a centre left country to be of a run by right wing legislative bodies and and judicial bodies. Because of the things we are pointing out. If you look at gerrymandering, you have a structural disadvantage for Democrats when it comes to what percentage the vote. Do they need to get in order to just have fifty percent representation? You look at the Senate, the Senate by giving two senators to each state dramatically over states. The power of these states with very few people,

oh that's still get to senators, and I think it was something like there were enough. You could have the senators presenting. Only seventeen percent of the population are decide that Trump is getting acquitted in terms of impeachment because of that imbalance in the fundamentally undemocratic nature of the Senate. You have the floor rural college. As you point out, wherein you have a country that votes for damage rats many times and many those times a Republican is still elected president. So you ve pointed out many of the ways in which the country is not really democratically run, and it is a major problem. Right This don't feel like we're. Gonna make any consistent progress forward and no matter what We do in the export of eight years. It could be undines repeats, keep going back and forth. It is very difficult to make decisive progress that were not able to wait in one direction. While I do think that

Joe Biden, winds and Democrats take the Senate. You could definitely undue a bunch of the damage. Trump has done and make some progress, but let's not put the cart before the horse. Let's deal with no gun before and then see where we are right to beg for taken regarding our right appreciated. Thank you. So much Let's go next to our collar from the eight three two area, who is calling today from eight three two. Oh yes, it is whose Us Ruben You ve done Reuben from Houston, what's going on right, so I have two questions and mostly

just that in our Orient myself a little better. Are you now understand expectations so with with the death of the supreme or dusted? There's been a lot of alarm sounding, and I just I just want to know who, like with it appears, we won't go to stop it or if we are very limited option, if it they do appoint a Supreme court yard, is it really? I mean? I know it's pretty bad. It is a shame that it would happen, but is a really bad say if we take the sun it and you know, get president elected with its two different things: ok, that's the thing so so Reuben, it's two different things. The things

our bad about. Sixty three conservative court are different things than what a democratic Senate can prevent, and so, for example, if you get a six three conservative Supreme court you'll start to see a really strict restrictions on abortion. Pass The state level, which will be challenged in local courts, appealed to federal courts and, ultimately to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court could issue rulings which set new press which dramatically clamp down on abortion rights as an example that has now to do with Democrats taking the Senate, you understand so we're talking about, but that taking the Senate is of huge importance, but the appointed for Life Supreme Court, which could No six three conservative is a whole slate of problems I have nothing to do with the Senate. I mean

recognized is just the same. Like I mean, obviously it's just that we don't hear in the media when a Supreme Court decision We are back anything except for every once in a while, I'm not sure what else they like. I don't know, but I don't want any listen. I think maybe people dont pay tension. But if you look over the last year in a very important rulings with regard to Obama, Commerce, related rulings that affect how business is done. Stuff about business discrimination really important arise about corporate power. I mean, I think people don't run necessarily understand how

decisions linked to their everyday lives is if there is a danger that you only mention the board's demand that, but is something that I am proud rose boys, but it's just, I guess, by their think about like healthcare. Things like that again are also. Second question is on so I made the mistake of donating to like presidential election campaigns like like fighting, I mean a thoroughly mistake. It's just I now there, dear me. All the time I'm getting had spur. You know, bird donating you, you know senators and just people run against Republicans, and I wanted to ask if that actually up all like how how much used is that money gonna go towards making the country a better place?

well that their those are two questions is donating helpful to get people elected The candidate who raises more money, tends to win all else being equal, so yeah it does help people get elected weather they will improve the country once elected is a much more detailed and and deep question that probably accede our time today, but yes to have money, does help get people elected by the way I've never donated to anybody, and I get the same adds. So I don't know how much of it is just everybody's getting adds right now or are you not guess? What did you say Olympic were all right hence the ogre. Well, thank you very much for your answer and I really, I really do think you're doing a good thing and thank you. I appreciate the call. Thank you so much too like to hear from you, we are going to go to a break. My apologies. I was not able to take every phone call, but I do the best I can quit break back after this the David

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maybe even more so if Joe Biden were to win on November. Third, it does seem that there are going to be enough votes from republic. In the Senate, breed fifty on Republicans if fifty three and only two senators have said they would wait at least sent after the election, we don't we don't know if they would insist on waiting until the inauguration, its We're going to have fifty one. So one of the big questions is weather, ROE V Wade, which is a landmark United States ruling on abortion, would be taken down by a six hundred and twenty three conservative court, which is what it would be if Donald Trump replace Ruth better Ginsburg with a right wing idea, log, which he certainly would do. If given the opportunity, Remember that Roby Wade is a ruling that says states. Cap ban abortion altogether now They can almost ban it. So we ve seen a whole bunch of different states. Increase were of restrictions on

medical provider that does abortions restrict, who can get an abortion or what needs to happen in order. Get one, and sometimes these restrictions are challenged in court and sometimes go very high in in the appeals process and what is ultimately left to the interpretation of the Supreme Court when those appeals get to the court, is whether the aid vial the Spirit of Roby Wade, so in practice the where you overturn Roby Wade, is by chain creating new precedent. A state would issue some very, very strict ruling on abortion and it would get appealed all the way up to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court might say this is ok. If that were to happen, you have effectively by precedent done Roby weighed and you would

many things change in red states and not very much would change in a blue states. The reality is that Roby Wade were effectively overturned by new by creating new precedent states like Massachusetts, other blue sky. Its are not likely to see any real changes to the availability and access to safe abortions. The red states will get absolutely rushed- and this is another one of those ways in which I have said before, even during the Trump presidency in blue states- We are insulated in many ways from the destructive effect of a radical ideological, reactionary presidency like that of Donald Trump? So, as is often the case, the destruction brought FF forward by republican policy and right wing ideology? Will disproportionately hurt right wingers when you look at Trump trying to undo Obamacare in Massachusetts

its we already have something that predates Obamacare called Romney care, and it is the folks in places like Mississippi, which has one of the worst one of the worst three healthcare systems in the country. It is those folks, who are disproportionately heard by Donald Trump, doing things like undoing the individual mandate on Obamacare. So that's a reality that If there are able to do it, not allow will change and blue states a lot will change in red states. Now. Does the Publican Party, really want Roby, wait, overturned. The reason I ask is if they actually overturn it, it's conceivable that there will be number one significantly renewed enthusiasm against Republicans at state level in order to try to legalise abortion in a lot of these states that are like. Overturn it and

The reality is that since Roby Wade was was issued as a decision it has. In a great fundraising tool for Republicans Republicans raise a ton of money by saying we ve gotta overturn Roby Wade, We need you to vote for this person and that person in that person from low level positions all the way up to the press. We need you to do it, so we can get the right. People in power to overturn Roby wait if they actually do it, They no longer have that carrot. To rival up evangelical voters. I think that there is some To that end, I question whether Republicans really want to overturn it or whether they want to keep fighting about overturned yet, because it allows them to raise money to question but is ROE V Wade in danger with a six hundred and twenty three court, particularly if Donald Trump gets re elected

and particularly, if we maintain a republican Senate. Yes, it is, under what it will mean in Massachusetts, is a different question: hey David, you talk about decided voters who hell could possibly be undecided right now about Trump versus Biden. I agree with the sentiment I've said before also verbatim who the hell could be undecided right now. Only if you ve been paying attention right? Could you be undecided at this point, and that indeed is the case? If you look at poor number one swing, voters and number two who is undecided right now. What you find is the undecided and swing voters tend to be younger, centrist centre, right, less engaged in politics. They are actually paying attention so, for example, seventy two percent of voters who are sick

five or older, have decided for sure they know who they're going to vote for among eighteen to try nine year olds, only forty seven percent were decided as of a few weeks ago. That's crazy, but it makes sense, in from the standpoint of if you dont know that much about. What's going on your more likely to say I don't know who I am going to vote for or whether I'm going to vote. It is people who are paying less attention. It is people who are lesson for if you are remotely informed- and you are likely voter you voted before, or you're sure that you're going to go. It's tough to be undecided. Right now we ve had almost four years now of impact. Simply dramatic differences between what Donald Trump has done and how he is governed and what a job presidency would mean to the United States now the other question about undecided.

Is a lot of undecided. Don't think it's that important whether one candidate or the other candidate wins. In other words, when you ask all voters whether it matters who wins. Eighty two percent to ninety two percent say that it matters When you ask these swing and undecided voters does it matter who wins? Only two thirds believed that it matter. So you start to put things they're a picture of the undecided voter tends to be younger ideal. Logically, they are moderate to centre right, they aren't paying much attention and they dont think that the quad consequences actually matter that much. That makes sense if you fall under those category is it follows. Logically, I don't agree with those points of view, but it follows logically that you may say I mean maybe maybe trot maybe Biden, those who

politically engaged have overwhelmingly been decided for a long time. Those who have voted in the past have been overwhelmingly cited for a long time and in terms of issues. One other interesting TED bit is that people who are still undecided today or as of about two weeks ago, now only are they more uninformed, they tend to vote based on their gut feeling of how the economy is doing and their gut feeling more generally that tracks. Sadly, with Some one who could be bamboozled essentially tricked into voting for Donald Trump and that's what's very, very scare. And why I am repeating and hammering on an harping on We need every vote. We ve gotta run the vote in the blue states? We ve gotta, get as many possible votes in red states, even if they are states that by

We will certainly lose don't assume anything whatsoever because gut feeling about the economy is exactly whose being targeted when Trump says biggest job growth in one month ever well, yeah after record losses right? Those are the folks that I don't know it. Just kind of sounds like things are pretty good. The stock market looks ok, This is why they pour money into the stock market to reach those exact voters hey David Donald from famously said. He could shoot people on Fifth avenue and not lose any support. What would it take for trumps base to abandon him? So I've said before would trump. Base, abandon him if he insulted them. If he said my basis filled with just crash losers. I'd never be caught dead with. I still think, even in that case a lot of truck voters would say he wasn't insulting me

he met somebody else, he didn't mean me when he talked about his supporters that he hates, I still don't think that attacking his own base, would get a large number of Trump supporters to abandon him. However, I do believe there People who would abandon Trump He loudly came out in favour of women's right to choose an abortion if it's right for them, Donald Europe has maintained. This absurd. Unbelievable lie that, even though he was proud voice, his entire life until he was sixty eight years old that when he was in his late sixties, he met a kid and he liked the key and the kids mom said. You know I thought about having an abortion, but I decided not to trump claims that

was an awakening moment for him where he said I've gotta be against abortion. It's an obvious lie from clearly is pro choice. It wouldn't be shocking to me if Trump has paid for abortions for some of his mistresses. It wouldn't surprise me Do think that there is a part of from space the evangelical voters were after said: hey, you know what this right to life stuff over the March for life that I spoke at. No, I am pro choice. I do think a lot of those antiabortion. Voters would abandon Donald Trump. But the reality is it's not a huge part of trumps evangelicals aren't really his base. They came to him, after mostly supporting I think it was TED crews and others in twenty. Sixteen. They went to Trump when the options were Trumpery Hilary and certainly we're going to be voting for Hillary Clinton I really dont know what it would take for trumps real base to abandon him. I I actually think they would be

in denial, no matter what and they would support him if Trump Card out and was loudly anti gun. Maybe some of his based would abandon him, but even then Trump has said some relatively anti gun things but then he'll come back and say Joe Biden will cancel the second amendment and it's a kind of like a choose. Your own adventure. I, like this thing trump. Said, so I'm going to believe that that's his real position, I really can't think of anything. Crumb could do to get the bulk of his real base to abandon him. I Wanna hear from you is there something he could do a my onto something with the gun idea is baby, the portion issue big for more of his base than just the evangelicals, then I'm conceding, let me know what you think. We got a great bonus show for you today. The bonus show is available to all of our members and all of our patrons contributing

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