Fox News contributor Ted Williams, criminal defense attorney and former homicide detective, weighs in on the Jacob Blake case.
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Fox NEWS, contributor and former
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Williams, TED. Thank you so much for
TED. Thank you so much for being
TED. Thank you so much for being
with me today.
I want to do as much as we can
in the short time we have
together to break down the
elements, the facts of this
case.
Anyone whos seen the viral
video and protesting on the
street have come to the
conclusion that there was an
obvious injustice,
not just a tragic incident, but
an injustice
lets start with this. What is
the standard TED to establish?
There was an unjustified use of
force when it comes to law
enforcement.
Well, the circumstances of
the case will,
and in this case of the shooting
here of Jacob Blake, there are
more questions than answers.
Let me take you back to August
23rd at around 500. In the
afternoon
the dispatcher with the Kenosha Wisconsin Police Department,
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That said, Jacob Blake was at
that location at her residence
and that he should not have been
there,
and at that stage the
dispatcher sent several police
officers.
One of those police officers was a officer by
a officer by the name of
a officer by the name of
Rushton.
They arrived on the scene.
It is not known at this stage as
to whether they knew that there
was a warrant for a sexual
assault against Mr Blake, but
at some stage or another they
attempted to arrest. Mr Blake,
Mr Blake resisted that arrest
and as a result of resisting
two officers fired their tasers.
It had no effect
at that stage. Mr Blake moved
from the rear of the passenger
side of the vehicle around to
the front.
Now, at that stage, the police
officers have their guns on
Mr Blake,
Mr Blake. At that stage opens
the car door on the drivers side of the vehicle and lean in
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and shortly thereafter
Mr Blake is taken to the
hospital
and those are the facts, as we
know of the case,
will I appreciate you laying
out those facts
now TED? If we can lets ask
ourselves which of those facts, inform us as
inform us as to whether or not
inform us as to whether or not
this was a justified use of
force?
I believe the standard is. Would
a reasonable officer have feared
for his life in that situation?
Is that the standard we would
use to determine whether or not
it was a justified use of force?
Well, thats, the absolute
standard
will okay,
and this is the key to part
of the case.
There are allegations that
Mr Blake had a knife
now theres a question as to
whether he had the knife on him,
but it is also alleged that a
knife was found on the drivers
side on the floorboard there.
So when you talk about what a
reasonable officer would do,
that is the big question
we dont know: weve, not that
heard from the officer
will right
and if hes saying he was in
fear of his life, he was
justified, will well thef0ono
all these facts. You lay out he
all these facts. You lay out. He
was tased not once, but twice
he put the officers in a head
lock. These all seem to
contribute to that standard.
Answering the question,
but I have to ask you this TED.
What about the fact that Jacob Blake had his back
Blake had his back turned to the
Blake? Had his back turned to the
officer
he was reaching in yes, but the
shots were in his back.
Does that suggest that a
reasonable officer should not
are feared for his life?
No, no!
You can not use that just
because his back was turned to
the officer
and its not so much the
reasonable officer standard
its. What the reasonable officer
would have seen under the
circumstances
will right,
if he believed,
will TED im up against a hard.
Transcript generated on 2020-08-30.