Steve we have been sharing you Steve. We have been sharing you. These leaked photos shared by our next guest, showing the inside look of overcrowded migrant facilities, as the border faces. A record surge Rachel Democratic, Texas, Congressman Henry Cuellar joins us now, with more congressman. Welcome to the show tell us, thank you Rachel quickly. Why you released these photos. Same reason. Did I in twenty fourteen, when I released photos of very packed facilities, keep in mind this is a border patrol facility. They are not equipped to handle, you know young people and families. They were set up to handle adults and I think, under the pandemic. It makes it even more important to understand why this is important to understand whats happening at this facility. The administration just has to move to the health and Human services facility will congressman the old saying a picture is worth a thousand word is obviously true.

Images are compelling. You have been there and toured these facilities weigh talked about in this morning. The facilities that congressional tells are shown or are allowed to see. You would also assume, are some of the better facilities out there. You would assume its some of the better conditions. Tell us with your own eyes, with what you witnessed whats going on down there. Well, you know there is different facilities. There is what we call the border patrol facilities that are supposed to be holding people up to seventy two hours, but if health and human services doesnt take this unaccompanied kids, then border patrol is just forced to stay with the kids for longer period of time. Thats why we are seeing those packed facilities. They are not moving them out fast enough under health and human services, and on top of that, the reason these pictures are important to show how packed they are somewhere close. By that same weekend, there were about one hundred and fifty one hundred and fifty people that were released

without a notice to appear to me thats unprecedented. How do you release somebody to the country without a notice to appear now? I have to say they were not adults. They were not unaccompanied kids, but they were family units, Steve yeah, but to your point, that has never been done before it makes it look congressman Cuellar that our immigration system is the honor system. Okay were just going to let you go and at some point in the future call ice and say you know what I feel like. I should probably appear before a judge now thats not going to happen its not going to happen even with the ones that have the notice to appear dont show up. I mean a lot of them do, but there is a good amount, Steve most dont yeah and imagine somebody who doesnt even have the paperwork, how they are going to show up in the honor system without all due respect the honor system doesnt work in immigration. I agree with you

Rachel Congressman earlier Kamala Harris Vice President Kamala Harris was asked when she was going to come to the border lets take. Do we have that footage here? Do you plan to visit the border um, not today, laughter, but I have before and im sure I will again Rachel. She seems pretty glib about it. You live on the border, I know lots of people who live in Huma, Arizona and Mission Texas. They are really worried that people in far away places like Washington, D, dot c, are making decisions that arent just affecting the children and the illegal families and individuals who are coming across the border, but that are affecting the communities that you live in. How important is it to you that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris get themselves over to the border to see what their policies impacts are? Well, I was with Kamala

Harris back. I think it was back in October at the Mcallen area at the border, but I have to say this look. I say this both to Democrats and Republicans coming in and just visiting the border for a few hours is not a substitute for a lifetime of experience for people like sheriffs mayors, other people, Ngos that live on the border and see this every day and its very, very, very important to get the input from the men and women on the ground on the border. Instead of letting somebody one thousand miles away make a decision for the border, I would make a decision for the northern border of Canada. I think the people up there know it better than I do Rachel good Point, Steve Congressman. You have a unique point of view because you are representing one of those districts right along the border, and you know the Biden Administration also a not been vocal enough in saying dont come now, because for a lot of the migrants, the message is Joe

Biden was elected and he wants me to come and now is a good time so im coming, but for your district is in a pickle because the people who run the district, the mayors and the town councils and stuff like that they have thousands of migrants dumped on your streets with little help from the federal government and you just cant handle it either. Well, you know its very important to understand that what we see here in the ground is different from what somebody else might see in a different place by that. I think it was within a week of the inauguration. I was already calling my White House contact, saying, hey, I need for you all to pay attention. Whats, hang here im hearing from my Ngos and hearing from my friends in border patrol, and this is what is happening. Yall need to take a look at because if you look at the numbers they have been increasing since last year, but

certainly in February, the numbers increased and remember March April May June are the peek months. Traditionally we are about to hit the peak point. I would tell you this that if we have a large month this month, we look at the numbers. Then we are going to have a very very, very hot summer. Will congressman coming into this peak point as you described them. The months are about to get worse. I keep going back to what you said a few moments ago. You witnessed one hundred and fifty people released without even a notice of to appear what we have. There is effectively a revolving door. The notice in and of itself is ineffective in asking people to come back and adjudicate their case now, in many cases, not getting that ineffective in the to appear whats the difference at this point congressman between the current system and completely open borders, it seems right now all we are putting on is a show. Well, I dont believe in open borders. You know I want to see law and order at

the border. If somebody has an asylum claim, a credible fear claim, then I think they should ask for that, but I would rather have them do it in their country instead of coming down here and then being released and not knowing if they are going to show up later at a different time. But look you know we have got to understand two things by letting people in too quickly and just releasing them. It feeds to the message. There are three messages: real quickly that are heard down there. One is the administration message which says: dont come come later. I think they calibrated that to dont come now thats better. Then you have the message of the networks, family, friends. That say: hey guess what Pedro I got across come over. Then they see images on tv showing people coming across the third message. This is the most important one, the aggressive marketings by the drug cartels criminal organizations, because every time they make a lot of money.

Those last two messages is what is being heard down there. I know that asked some of the people when I was in springs. I asked them which message they heard. It was the last two messages Rachel Congressman, really quick. We interviewed people on the other side of the border, the mexican side of the border. Griff Jenkins. Did they say they liked the way the policy was before I talked to people who live on the border. Who also said that the policies prior to the Biden Administration, the Trump policies at the border were working. Have you dismantled? The Biden administration has dismantled them, were they working? Did they need to be dismantled? Did you agree? Do you agree with what the Biden Administration has done? Well, I think they should have taken a more conscious approach before making big changes. I would tell you this title. Forty two, I support. Imagine if we were not if we were allowing all the adults in without the title, forty two we are returning most of them back. I think the app could have been

done, reformed or done in those countries, and then the third thing is agreements with those countries and im glad that Roberta Jacobson and her team are going to Central America. You have an agreement with those countries, otherwise you dont stem the tied and play defense on the one yard line called the: U dot S. Mexico border thats, not very good defense, Steve Congressman Henry Cuellar thanks for leaking those pictures, so we could all.