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'Difficult' to hold China accountable in international court: Ortagus

2021-06-06 | 🔗
Former State Department spokeswoman Morgan Ortagus argues it could be difficult to hold China accountable for its alleged role in the coronavirus outbreak
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Everythings better between kings, Hawaiian, bread, the time has come for America and the world to demand, reparations and accountability from the Communist Party of China. Applause, China must pay, they must pay. All nations should work together to present China a bill for a minimum of ten dollars trillion to compensate for the damage that they caused. That is a very low number of the damage is far far greater than that. It is the first step all countries should collectively can sell any debt they owe to China as a down payment on reparations will he is back Donald Trump returning to the GOP political scene, at a rally in North Carolina and demand, China pay reparations to the? U dot. S for covid related damages will here to react. Former state department, spokesperson, Morgan, Ortegas good morning, guys
will talk about what is a realistic way to hold China accountable. There is two steps proving accountability is necessary, were all leaning in that direction. Proof is something separate, but if we get to that proof, how do you hold them accountable? What is a realistic way to do so sure? That is a great question. There are several ways to do it. First of all, we have some bills by Tom Cotton and Marsha Blackburn that would strip China of their sovereign immunity. Weve seen attorney generals around the United States try to sue China. I think that those are worthy. We should consider to pursue both options. The problem they rely on international courts and that is always going to be difficult to hold China accountable in the international courts. Remember Covid 19 is not the first time that China sort of defied international community. They do it on an ongoing basis, so you could also President mentioned a way last night. Look at treating China. Similarly, how
we do Russia or IRAN from a sanctions perspective and start sanctioning them. What youre really going to need is teeth from the international community from our allies to say whether its sanctions, whether its imposing some sort of trade, economic sanctions on China, whatever you have to do in order to get the international community to actually come together, would be the most effective we have seen in foreign policy. We had to do this in trumps administration. We had to go at it alone, as it relates to IRAN to hold them accountable. Sometimes the United States has to stand up and lead Lawrence. Morgan ive been fascinated. The president had tough words for China, the former president when he was in office, but what was going on behind the scenes from a diplomatic standpoint? What were the conversations like with the counterparts in China? They were very blunt and they were very straightforward. I remember the very first
meeting that I was in with MIKE Pompeo and his chinese counterparts. Listen the one great thing about working for Pompeo and President Trump. It wasnt a lot different in the room than when you guys saw on television Pompeo, always laid out very clear places where we could work together. There were instances, for example, where China was helpful on North Korea. Actually, so there were places foreign policy, it is sometimes it is black and white. Sometimes there are shades of gray in places where two competing powers, like the United States and China, compete together when it came time to stand up for american values, stand up for the things that we believe in, especially as Covid 19 got worse. I never heard MIKE Pompeo mince any words. He was very blunt straightforward. What you all saw publicly is the same message behind the scenes not like they were buddy buddy behind the scenes. Carley Morgan, one of the fastest ways to get answers, like
you said size, late, China that take as total international cooperative effort. Do you see that happening under the current administration? Is there enough sort of concern within the international community to hold China accountable in this way? Great question? Carley there is deferral, concern amongst the what we call the indopacific countries youve seen China get incredibly aggressive with India. Remember they have a border and they have had for the past year have had a lot of incidents on their border between the two of them. You see the Indopacific countries, wake up talk to any vietnamese American im sure we have any Vietnamese Americans watching Fox AMP friends. They will tell you what it is like to grow up in the shadow of a communist China, neighbors people around China, people in the Philippines, people in Japan, people in South Korea understand especially people in Sigh Juan. All of these countries are allies and friends of the United States.
We started something called the quad in the Trump Administration happened in the Bush administration. It was dormant, eight years in the Obama years we revised that in the Trump Administration put the Indo Pacific Relationships Fronter and center. Unfortunately, I havent seen as much from our european allies as I would hope for standing up to Russia and China. I dont know if we can count on them. Morgan really quickly. I will start with proof will be illusive. Is that a real expectation? Will we ever get the definitive proof on Covid and Chinese already destroyed the evidence and always block the way to definitive proof? Great question? The skeptic in me thinks they destroyed what they can. One thing they cant destroy. Every single person that knew what was going on eight doctors came forward to be whistle blowers. They were arrested, doctors, an scientists disappeared who had knowledge about this, hopefully with our intelligence community and with other people, just good citizens
of China who stood up and said you know what this isnt going to happen. Well, tell the truth, will im afraid the Chinese look the same way.
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