Former State Department spokeswoman Morgan Ortagus argues it could be difficult to hold China accountable for its alleged role in the coronavirus outbreak
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Everythings better between kings, Hawaiian, bread,
the time has come for America
and the world to demand,
reparations and accountability
from the Communist Party of
China.
Applause,
China must pay,
they must pay.
All nations should work together
to present China a bill for a
minimum of ten dollars trillion to
compensate for the damage that
they caused.
That is a very low number of
the damage is far far greater
than that.
It is the first step all
countries should collectively
can sell any debt they owe to
China as a down payment on
reparations
will he is back
Donald Trump returning to the
GOP political scene, at a rally
in North Carolina and demand,
China pay reparations to the?
U dot. S for covid related damages
will here to react. Former state
department, spokesperson, Morgan,
Ortegas
good morning, guys
will talk about what is a
realistic way to hold China
accountable.
There is two steps
proving accountability is
necessary,
were all leaning in that
direction. Proof is something
separate, but if we get to that
proof, how do you hold them
accountable?
What is a realistic way to do
so
sure? That is a great
question.
There are several ways to do it.
First of all, we have some bills
by Tom Cotton and Marsha
Blackburn that would strip China
of their sovereign immunity.
Weve seen attorney generals
around the United States try to
sue China.
I think that those are worthy.
We should consider to pursue
both options.
The problem they rely on
international courts and that is
always going to be difficult to
hold China accountable in the
international courts.
Remember Covid 19 is not the
first time that China sort of
defied international community.
They do it on an ongoing basis,
so you could also President
mentioned a way last night. Look
at treating China. Similarly, how
we do Russia or IRAN from a
sanctions perspective and start
sanctioning them.
What youre really going to need
is teeth from the international
community from our allies to
say whether its sanctions,
whether its imposing some sort
of trade, economic sanctions on
China, whatever you have to do
in order to get the
international community to
actually come together, would be
the most effective
we have seen in foreign policy.
We had to do this in trumps
administration.
We had to go at it alone, as it
relates to IRAN to hold them
accountable.
Sometimes the United States has
to stand up and lead
Lawrence. Morgan ive been
fascinated. The president had
tough words for China, the former
president when he was in office,
but what was going on behind the
scenes from a diplomatic
standpoint?
What were the conversations like
with the counterparts in China?
They were very blunt and they
were very straightforward.
I remember the very first
meeting that I was in with MIKE
Pompeo and his chinese
counterparts.
Listen the one great thing
about working for Pompeo and
President Trump. It wasnt a lot
different in the room than when
you guys saw on television
Pompeo, always laid out very
clear places where we could work
together.
There were instances, for
example, where China was helpful
on North Korea. Actually,
so there were places foreign
policy, it is sometimes it is
black and white.
Sometimes there are shades of
gray in places where two
competing powers, like the United
States and China, compete
together
when it came time to stand up
for american values, stand up
for the things that we believe
in, especially as Covid 19 got
worse. I never heard MIKE Pompeo
mince any words.
He was very blunt
straightforward.
What you all saw publicly is the
same message behind the scenes
not like they were buddy buddy
behind the scenes.
Carley Morgan, one of the
fastest ways to get answers, like
you said size, late, China
that take as total international
cooperative effort.
Do you see that happening under
the current administration?
Is there enough sort of concern
within the international
community to hold China
accountable in this way?
Great question? Carley
there is deferral, concern
amongst the what we call the
indopacific countries
youve seen China get incredibly
aggressive with India.
Remember they have a border and
they have had for the past year
have had a lot of incidents on
their border between the two of
them.
You see the Indopacific
countries, wake up talk to any
vietnamese American
im sure we have any Vietnamese
Americans watching
Fox AMP friends.
They will tell you what it is
like to grow up in the shadow of
a communist China,
neighbors people around China,
people in the Philippines,
people in Japan, people in South
Korea understand especially
people in Sigh Juan. All of
these countries are allies and
friends of the United States.
We started something called the
quad in the Trump
Administration
happened in the Bush
administration.
It was dormant, eight years in
the Obama years
we revised that in the Trump
Administration put the
Indo Pacific Relationships
Fronter and center.
Unfortunately, I havent seen as
much from our european allies as
I would hope for standing up to
Russia and China.
I dont know if we can count on
them.
Morgan really quickly. I
will start with proof will be
illusive.
Is that a real expectation?
Will we ever get the definitive
proof on Covid and Chinese
already destroyed the evidence
and always block the way to
definitive proof?
Great question?
The skeptic in me thinks they
destroyed what they can.
One thing they cant destroy.
Every single person that knew
what was going on
eight doctors came forward to be
whistle blowers.
They were arrested,
doctors, an scientists
disappeared who had knowledge
about
this, hopefully with our
intelligence community and with
other people, just good citizens
of China who stood up and said
you know what
this isnt going to happen.
Well, tell the truth,
will im afraid the Chinese
look the same way.
Transcript generated on 2021-07-14.