Will honoring the legacy of will honoring the legacy of Supreme Court Justice, Ruth Bader Supreme Court Justice, Ruth Bader Ginsburg this morning, Ginsburg this morning, Jedediah the champion of civil Jedediah, the champion of civil rights and gender equality rights and gender equality, reflecting on growing in twenty sixteen, reflecting on growing in twenty sixteen book. Writing part of a world book writing part of a world whose unity has been almost whose unity has been almost completely shattered. No one can completely shattered. No one can feel free from danger and feel free from danger and destruction until the many torn destruction until the many torn threads of civilization or threads of civilization, or bound together again bound together again PETE. Can our nation come PETE? Can our nation come together again together again author of the best selling book author of the best selling book, massive of crowds, gender and massive of crowds, gender and identity identity Douglas Murray Douglas Murray? Thank you. So much for being. Thank you. So much for being here here, im a big fan im a big fan. Thank you. Thank you PETE. I appreciate your insight PETE. I appreciate your insight. You wrote a op ed in the last, you wrote a op ed in the last couple of days with the title couple of days with the title can America hold together? Can America hold together that was before the passing of that was before the passing of Ruth Bader Ginsburg Ruth Bader. Ginsburg? Add this on top of what we are add this on top of what we are facing, what is America facing facing? What is America facing very good to be with you very good to be with you? I very much worry as a friend I very much worry as a friend and admirer of the United States and admirer of the United States and friend and admirer of the and friend and admirer of the United States, all my life United states all my life. What is happening at the moment?

What is happening at the moment is a very, very serious. Pulling is a very, very serious pulling apart of nation. It apart of nation. It has all the elements historian has all the elements historian would suggest of civil war would suggest of civil war. I am not overstating that there. I am not overstating that there is a fundamental disagreement. Is a fundamental disagreement now in America, clearly about the now in America. Clearly about the nature of your governance, nature of your governance, about your institutions, about your institutions, about everything in your about everything in your history, history, and I would say that it comes, and I would say that it comes down to something like this. A down to something like this. A portion of your country. Clearly portion of your country clearly believes that America is an believes that America is an exceptional country, exceptional country, that its founders were that its founders were exceptional people and it would exceptional people and it would be good to hold to the be good to hold to the foundational principles of the foundational principles of the state state. It made mistakes, but everybody it made mistakes, but everybody does does another portion of the country. Another portion of the country now believes that there is now believes that there is nothing good in America, nothing good in America that its founding fathers were that its founding fathers were rotten rotten, that all the land is stolen, that all the land is stolen. You know eighty percent of self described you know. Eighty percent of self described. Liberals in a recent poll said: liberals in a recent poll said that they would like the flag to that. They would like the flag to be changed, the anthem to be be changed, the anthem to be changed and the constitution to changed and the constitution to be rewritten, be rewritten, and once you have got those and once you have got those kinds of divisions, its kinds of divisions, its extremely hard to see how you extremely hard to see how you reconcile them between people reconcile them between people who believe that America is who believe that America is exceptional and people who exceptional and people who believe that it is exceptional,

believe that it is exceptional only in one way. That is only in one way. That is exceptionally bad. Exceptionally bad between these two sides, its between these two sides, its very hard to see, unless a lot of very hard to see unless a lot of work is done, how they can work is done, how they can reconcile reconcile, will know Douglas America has will know Douglas America has been through a lot been through a lot its been through civil wars and its been through civil wars and managed to make its way through managed to make its way through thatS, because everyone in thatS, because everyone in America or most everyone had America or most everyone- had shared values, shared goals, shared values, shared goals. I want to give you an example of. I want to give you an example of what is pressing that tension. I, what is pressing that tension? I think think this is a letter from the this is a letter from the Princeton President, Christopher Princeton President Christopher Eyes, Gruber talking about eyes, Gruber talking about princetons inherent racism, princetons inherent racism, racism and the damage its done racism and the damage its done Toto people of Color Nevertheles Toto people of color nevertheles persist at Princeton, as in our persist at Princeton, as in our society society. Racist assumptions from the past racist assumptions from the past also remain embedded in also remain embedded in structures itself structures itself. To that the department of to that the Department of Education has said. If we focus education has said, if we focus on identity and dont have on identity and dont have shared values. How do we see our shared values? How do we see our way through this moment in time way through this moment in time you wont be able to, as a you wont, be able to as a country without shared values,

country without shared values. Martin Luther king gave the Martin Luther King gave the entire World United Society Entire World United Society. It was famously said to focus. It was famously said to focus not on peoples characteristics not on peoples, characteristics on the of their character on the of their character. Dr King Dangelo of wife, Dr King Dangelo of Wife fragility fame go around telling fragility fame go around telling everyone not only is everything everyone. Not only is everything toe do with race as everybody toe do with race, as everybody racist, as she said before, racist as she said before, dangerous, not to judge people by dangerous, not to judge people by the color of their skin, half a the color of their skin half a century from America to turn century from America to turn from one glorious division and from one glorious division and divisive, and I suggest totally divisive and I suggest totally untrue vision, which has been untrue, vision which has been pumped around the country pumped around the country. Primarily, it has to be said from primarily, it has to be said from universities in America and the universities in America, and the university system is rife with university system is rife with this this. What the President of Princeton, what the President of Princeton said, was atrocious. It was said was atrocious. It was clearly audition to be seen as clearly audition to be seen as doing something doing something what is happening at the moment.

What is happening at the moment is people in authority like him is people in authority like him, are trying to run ahead of the are trying to run ahead of the crowd crowd they are trying to get ahead of. They are trying to get ahead of the mob the mob they are trying to say we are, they are trying to say we are even worse than you say. We are even worse than you say we are, and so they say these things, and so they say these things like there is endemic racism at like there is endemic racism at Princeton Princeton. I admire the department of I admire the Department of Education there for saying, oh if education there for saying oh if it is as bad as you say, then we it is as bad as you say. Then we are going to have to investigate, are going to have to investigate because you are breaking the because you are breaking the law law. I think its an exceptionally, I think its an exceptionally dangerous moment, dangerous moment. I think the people like the I think the people like the President of Princeton Need to President of Princeton need to be made an example of be made. An example of PETE, so well said. Pete so well said Jedediah, you know Douglas Jedediah, you know Douglas. This goes beyond university. This goes beyond university. This is happening kindergarten. This is happening, kindergarten first grade first grade people have had it with the people have had it with the educational system. They are educational system. They are tired of the indoctrination and tired of the indoctrination and cancel culture and add enormous, cancel culture and add enormous amount of inefficiency. We see amount of inefficiency, we see after these lockdowns in terms after these lockdowns, in terms of getting kids back to school, of getting kids back to school. What happens next is a complete. What happens next is a complete breakdown of our educational breakdown of our educational system, a possibility here system a possibility here. Well, of course I mean have well, of course I mean have you already already? Basically, you already already basically got it got it. You see things like the you see things like the University of Chicago English

University of Chicago English Department say they are only department say they are only going to take people next year going to take people next year, doing black studies, doing black studies and everything has studies after and everything has studies after it it. There is no such thing women. There is no such thing. Women studies, studies, no such thing its, not a study. No such thing its, not a study, queer studies. No such thing, not queer studies, no such thing, not a study, a study. If you have to call it a study, if you have to call it a study, its not a study like having to its, not a study like having to call yourself a democratic call yourself, a democratic peoples, Republic, Peoples, republic, if you have to say it you are. If you have to say it, you are not not people doing black studies, people doing black studies, English Department, English Department, the English Department of the English Department of Chicago English studies as a Chicago English studies. As a language as a study as language as a study as literature is based in literature, is based in colonialism and oppression, colonialism and oppression, they abolish themselves, they abolish themselves institution after institution institution after institution abolishes itself in America, abolishes itself in America Heres the problem. It comes to a heres, the problem. It comes to a fundamental issue in the country, fundamental issue in the country, which is that White America has, which is that White America has been bullied by people been bullied by people. There are some things that we there are some things that we could address and unite over and could address and unite over and currently people are being currently, people are being listened. They are listening, listened, they are listening to and being bullied by totally to and being bullied by totally insincere actors. Insincere actors, when somebody says everything when somebody says everything about you and your past is about you and your past is rotten, dont, believe them

rotten, dont, believe them if they say that you are if they say that you are intrinsically racist and you are intrinsically racist and you are racist. If you say you are a racist, if you say you are a racist and you are racist if you racist and you are racist, if you say you are a racist say you are a racist, dont, listen to them, dont! Listen to them. These are dishonest people. These are dishonest people, its time and im, glad to see its time and im glad to see the latest investigation of the latest investigation of Princeton Princeton time. People called out the time people called out the bullies and the frauds and bullies, and the frauds and racketeers racketeers thats whats, going on thats whats, going on after all, very important point. After all, very important point, its so much easier to talk its so much easier to talk about your endemic racism than about your endemic racism than it is to deal with serious. It is to deal with serious sociological issues in society, sociological, issues in society, PETE, so true, PETE. So true so much easier to say, we are so much easier to say we are all guilty than it is to improve all guilty than it is to improve educational standards. Educational standards, America has been taken in by America, has been taken in by hundredsters of late and it is hundredsters of late, and it is high time that people of every high time that people of every kin color unite and say no, we kin color, unite and say no, we are Americans, we will not give are Americans. We will not give in to your division in to your division here here. The book is madness here here: the book is madness of crowds of crowds Douglas Murray. You are welcome Douglas Murray. You are welcome on this program any time on this program any time. Thank you for your insight and.