New York Post writer Jon Levine on how a Democratic operative admitted to fraud.
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They better ignore the
activist.
Meanwhile, a democratic insider
sharing his secrets with the
New York Post about voter
fraud and fixing mail in ballots.
Saying quote: this is a real
thing.
There is going to be a war
coming November. Third, over this
stuff. If they knew hows sausage
was made, they could fix it.
Maybe thats the point of this
story
joining us now, the reporter, who
got the interview, John Lavigne,
John First off what made you
convinced that this guy or
person was for real.
You know its just. He came
to us well, First Brian,
thank you for having me on the
show
Brian no problem.
He came to us and it was the
level of detail. He was able to
offer and story. He was able to
tell- and you know, obviously we
had to keep him anonymous
because you know he would
face. You know very severe
prosecution for some of the
stuff he was talking about and
you know the evidence he
presented us, and you know just
this is a very serious guy.
I would not say household name,
but its someone who you know
you could sees a a has, a very lo
track record with some of the
biggest politicians in that
state up and down
once he started talking and once
it came from the horses mouth
it was both.
It was revealing, but also
chilling, I would say
Brian flawed and wasnt
surprised to see the Fox AMP
friends weekend. Do it and talk
about your story,
it was on Sundays, New York
Post,
so you talked to the anonymous
source and he said not only has
he done it himself. He trains
others to do it in New Jersey,
Pennsylvania, as well as New York,
and here is an idea of what he
does
here is an example
democratic, operative,
real thing, blanking war
November third over this stuff and
if they knew how its done. This
is how they could fix it,
and one of the areas in which
you delve into it. How they do it
is the envelope is much more
full proof than the ballot.
The key is getting the envelope
correct
right.
What he would say is your voter
is mail. The ballot
once the ballots go out, they fan
out and they knock on doors and
they convince people to hand
over completed ballots, which you
might be thinking. Oh thats,
crazy, but he laughed
its easier than you think
hello, im, a district leader
im with the county this or
that
im here to mail. Your ballot,
shocking number of people will
just hand over completed
ballots,
and you know there San area in
the article where he says you
know you got to make sure to
sprinkle the ballot in different
mailboxes, because if you put
them all in one mailbox its
suspicious
there was a voter mail job
pointed to got busted. I would
never make that mistake. They put
all the ballots in one mailbox,
Brian open up the envelope and
put the new ballot in steam. It
open
here is another story:
Post Manuel, for example, a rabid,
Anti trump guy and working in
Bedminster for republican strong
hold.
Can he take those blank ballots?
Knowing ninety five percent are going to be
republican?
Can he throw those in the
garbage?
And I guess he has done that-
I mean, and how would you
know and once a ballot is cast
thats it
you dont, get to cast another
one.
There is no mechanism to prevent
that. There has been cases in New
York which are documented in
this article, where you know,
like five hundred ballots were delivered
to the board of elections eight
months later, and it was just
like you know, they were found
in a corner somewhere.
We dont know how they got there,
who put them there. Those people
ended up being disenfranchised
Brian in New Jersey. We already
know what a debacle it was in
these primaries and New York had
one too,
with ballots being left in
postal floors or not appearing
at all.
Another point you have is from a
nursing home, for example, said
anonymous. The nursing home
ballots,
nursing homes, where the nurels
is actually a paid operative,
go room by room to old people
who still want to feel like they
are relevant and they literally
fill it out for them
that happenings a lot
you dont even need to steam
it open. In that case
they just its. You know
this has been called granny
harvesting in the past.
They dont even have to steam it
open, because the nurse is on the
payroll and then they just go,
and the nurse gets a stack of
ballots hello. We are going to
do the ballots together
and then its both fraud and
its elder abuse. Frankly,
what did you walk away with
out of all of this? The
operation
when you would wrote the
interview and the story?
What did you walk away with
the take away from me and his
take away too?
You dont need to the answer
here is not to abolish mail, know
voting, but that there are some
very, very easy ways to make it
a lot safer.
You know things like you know
having a water mark or bar code,
or just you know saying how
treat a ballot with the same
security you treat the money.
I could never take a twenty dollars bill
and put it into a coffee machine
and come out with a new twenty dollars bill
that I could just go, spend at
the store thats a one way
ticket to jail,
treat a ballot like that.
Put security features like that
in
make it as secure as the money
just voter education
dont hand your ballot to a
random person that knocks at
your door, saying he will deliver
it for you.
Do it yourself,
Brian read this story and no
longer say: election fraud is
possible,
its so alarming.
Jon, good job.
Transcript generated on 2020-09-01.