Reaction from Asia analyst Gordon Chang, author of 'The Coming Collapse of China.'
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Apologies
Jed
Jedediah, thanks Griff
Chinese owned video sharing, app
Tiktok is firing back after
President Trump announced plans
to ban the app in the United
States over security concerns.
The company says they are not
going anywhere.
We appreciate the support
we are here for the long run and
continue to share your voice
here and stand for Tiktok
PETE appreciate all the support
of the communist chinese
government.
Asian analyst Gordon Chang joins
us now,
author of the coming collapse of
China and the great: U Dot S, China,
tech war.
Thank you for being here.
Much may have caught some people
by surprise. Tiktok is in the
cross, hairs
people follow it closely. The way
the Communist Chinese an use and
have used the app.
What will happen here?
I think a forced sale perhaps
to Microsoft. Somebody else
bite dance, which is the private
chinese company that owns
tiktoks? U dot s operations is no
longer going to own it
one way or another. Either an
executive order from the
President of the United States or some deal means that ticktock
or some deal means that Ticktock
is going to be: U Dot S owned.
Pete Gordon go ahead: Griff
Griff, I wanted to say God,
Gordon, whether they divest or
go to Microsoft. Otherwise, will
the threat be fully removed?
That is my question:
if it is: U Dot S owned that the
threat will be removed,
ticktock issues, always these
assurances.
Ultimately it is chinese owned.
We have to remember the twenty seventeen
national Intelligence LAW of
China requires every chinese
entity to spy. If demanded
communist partys top down
system, nobody can resist an
order from the party,
so these assurances from Tiktok
are really meaningless.
People need to put them into
context.
We know. Tiktok has been spying
apple caught it twice this year
in April and late June, using
clipboard function,
and there is, for instance,
another violation, this time
abusing the information of
minors.
So Tiktok is a bad actor and
weve got to consider not just
the theoretical concerns, but
also what in fact it has been
doing
Jedediah you know Gordon. Some
of the assurances provided by
Tiktok are that the data is
stored in the United States,
that there are a lot of american
investors and, as a result of
that, something nefarious,
possibly couldnt, be going on.
What is your response to that?
Well, you know those
assurances you know we
remember. Communist party rules
will dictate that bite dance.
The private chinese company
will force Tiktok to share data
illicitly.
You know this is just a series
of ongoing issues.
There is one other thing Jed
and that is we cant China
doesnt allow american apps in
China.
So why are we allowing chinese
apps in the United States?
This is a fundamental issue of
fairness of reciprocity,
so it seems to me that if Tiktok
doesnt sell then weve got to
ban it.
Pete Gordon turn about is fair
play.
Not only do they not allow apps
steal our technology. Will this
be a new America where we force
american companies to be
american and not work with our
enemies
were seeing that in the
Trump administration,
for instance, in the similar
situation, the Trump
Administration forced the sale
of grinder the dating app?
I think it is important, because
you know weve seen China abuse
its apps and use them to spy on
Americans and, as you point out,
China steals hundreds of
billions of dollars of U Dot s
intellectual property each year.
There is also other bad acts.
The Trump administration is
moving forcefully to end these,
because this is just been a
grievous wounds on the american
economy and our future
Griff. That is a good point.
President Trump made it pretty.
Transcript generated on 2020-08-02.