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I'm just thinking that of an obvious in, I think, he's he's. Probably you might want to take him off the list. Democrats, I'm too you might want to now. I am all for. I am all for in fact, I'm printing up teachers for him. He's the creepy porn lower lawyer. He is he's the guy it has been representing not only Stormy Daniels, but also you know the worst of the worst in the cabinet hearings. That's that's. This guy he was arrested yesterday afternoon, in LOS Angeles and the reason why he was arrested. I kind of makes you think that maybe there's some kind of invisible force out there, making sure you know either irony or maybe even karma- is receiving its daily. Offering I'm just

Just saying, Michael, everybody was arrested for domestic violence. Now the alleged victim file Complaint on Wednesday, but the incident began on Tuesday. The woman involved is said to have been doing and swelling on her face and was kicked. Out of everybody's LOS Angeles area. Apartment of a knotty was heard screaming. This is bs. This is effing bs. She hit me first. Ah, well, Did you first II, think the whole she hit me first line is gonna, be a good strategy used in court. You might want to rethink that one. Oh, he already has

I don't know of the media, specifically CNN and MSNBC you're gonna. Do any may accomplice over the next twelve to twenty four hours, but I highly doubt it they have become the oven ADI Network and the pr wing over the last eight months In fact, from March two may the two networks have at a naughty on over one hundred times. He gave one hundred and forty seven your views on both cable and network tv. Emma we see, host Laurens O Donnell actually said quote. Michael Abernethy is because my co host, I have to say. Now this is sir. You know this is before he dragged a Julie, Sweat Nick into the limelight to attack Cavanaugh, I wonder, is gonna teach the networks now It's not spend any time even thinking about that could be a learning moment, but it won't be speaking of Cavenaugh. You after

to hear this twitter exchange between one user and ever naughty on October. Fifth, it said bread, Cavanaugh will be confirmed and its Michael Avenue Bodies fault seriously. That's when everybody replied quote you are right. I should have turn my back on my client, told her to shut up and stay quiet because people like you apparently believe assault victims are to blame. This line of thinking is disgusting offensive to all survivors year and, let's all remember, she hit him first,

others this today? Here is your statement that he made last night. I have never struck a woman. I never will strike a woman. I have been an advocate for women's rights, my entire career, and I want to continue to be an advocate. I am not going to be intimidated from staffing. What I am doing. I am a father to beautiful, smart daughters? I would never disrespect them by touching of woman inappropriately or striking a woman. While I am looking forward to a flow full investigation, at which point I am confident that I will be fully exonerated. Is the white man? Ok, this a white man saying that this is the oppressor saying this and in the court of auditors we know the hashtag me too and public opinion nowadays that court, you know

holding him to the standard that he helped create. Is this statement that he just made not quote disgusting? offensive to all survivors. Are we not supposed to believe the woman are you're not supposed to immediately deem him guilty is accused raw. The him out of the public Square make sure that he never has a job again, but he could never ever have a good name or even a chance to defend himself. I wonder all the men and women screaming at Cavanaugh and the GEO P senators and elevators. Can I'll see the Pandora's box that they actually wanted open. Did he hit this woman? Well, witnesses say he said this is be ass. This is bs. She hit me first.

Now he's on the record. Saying I didn't hit her. Is it possible? This one just made this up. Yes, yes, it is. Is it possible that he hid her. Yes, yes, it is, should we judge him and condemn him and burn him at the stake, oh my gosh its, I mean hands are shaking as I try to keep the match in the box. We wait and he is innocent until he is found guilty. We have I presume that he is innocent until all of the evidence comes out, proving that he's by the way, I'm not telling you anything new. You know this. I'm just making sure there occurred, is very, very clear on where constitutional Stan where America stand out the media to hear it very, very clearly.

Everybody is not guilty, we're not say that he is a spouse, abuse abuser, a girlfriend abuser, oh, that he advocates Violence against women. We are I'm saying any of that now I am saying that he's a scumbag. I have saying that he's really really shady, but that doesn't mean beats women see. This is how it works. And when no one else will lead, I guess we will leave you and I will lead. We gonna do set the exam there's something extraordinary here, something radical. Let's wait for all of the evidence wait for all of the evidence to come out before we convict some one of a crime that doesn't

in that we don't role arise, we don't laugh, we don't say wow. There is a god. There is such a thing as car Then we don't say that an kind of revel in it a little bit, but Bar is destroying a man's life on this. Now I don't think so. Ever naughty, even the worst get due process that he deserves but I doubt neither he nor any one screaming for Cavenaugh head. Will realize exactly what just happened The best of the best program

I it's Glenn if you're a subscriber to the podcast, can you do me a favor and rate us on Itunes? If you're not a subscriber, become one today and listen on your own time, you can subscribe on Itunes begs: well, it's been a busy week for the former First Ladys for the current First Lady Maloney a Trump, but it has also been a busy one for the women who, twenty odd years ago, while working at the White House for then the then president at the age of twenty one shot to fame in the most embarrassing way possible. Aim, of course we all know. In fact, her last name is become a verb, Monica Lewinsky she, released the quote Clinton Affair, Doc, you serious the premier this weekend on any it's a six part series examining the cringe and ten days and months, rounding her affair with Bill Clinton in an art bill Vanity fair. Earlier this year she wrote this sum closest to me.

Asked why I would want to revisit the most painful and romantic parts of my life again publicly on camera with. No control and how it would be used a bit of a head scratch, as my brother is fond, Saying do I wish I could erase my years in DC from my memory, he eternal sunshine of the spotless mine style it was the sky blue. I can't and in order to move for forward in life, I have to, I must take risks. Both professional and emotional and important part of my moving forward is escalating and often painfully what has gone before when politicians or ask uncomfortable questions. They often duck and dodge by saying its old news from the past. Yes, but that's exactly where we need to start to heal with the past, but it is an easy she added filming the documentary forced me to acknowledge to myself pass behaviour that I still regret and feel ashamed of. I think this is a really good thing.

There are many many many moments when I questioned not just the decision to participate but mice Kennedy itself. Despite all the ways I tried. Protect my mental health. It was still challenging during one therapy session. I told my therapist I was feeling especially depressed see suggests she suggested that sometimes what we experiences depression is actually grief. Yes, it was grief. The process of this doc. You series led me to new rooms of shame that I still need to explore. Meanwhile, Bill Clinton them and who has been accused of all sorts of terrible, terrible things. A close friend of Harvey Einstein Winston recently admitted that he didn't feel the need to apologize to Lewinsky Louis. Disagrees. I am less disappointed by him.

And more disappointed for him. He would have been a better man for it and we in turn a better society. The hashtag me to movement has been a wrecking ball for so many men, yet Bill Clinton, perhaps the most prolific of them all has escaped unscathed but perhaps that begins to change with this doc. You series: do I don't know how we are supposed to feel alone over the politically correct thing is to feel, but more. I see Monica Lewinsky the more I like her and the more our empathy I have for her her I mean who didn't make stupid moves when they were twenty one, can you imagine whatever is the worst thing you ve ever done in your life? If that was all you were known for now, and it would never go away, and you can

Have I mean? How does she have a regular relationship? I mean there's a guy, you married to Monica Lewinsky, how many jokes you're dating her, so Jove be the agonizing. It would be horrible. Yeah- and you know- I think, one of the reasons why she comes off as likeable is. She seems to be the only one in the entire situation whose actually wrestled with what occurred right like Bill Clinton, has were shown any true you're standing of what happened there. Hillary Clinton has never wrestled with what happened. I think that, from her perspective, she was basically trying to beat these women into oblivion politically. Make them go away to preserve her husband's career. She really see we too have done soul, searching and what I like about it. Is it she's not she's, not just coming out in saying I'm a victim and look at me. I'm down the new face of me to write

She saying I some things in a really terrible things and I shouldn't have done them and I feel terrible about them, and I have called in. People that I wronged at the time to to apologise and and I think she's. She seems to really have a good. I think it is a remarkable woman. Go to Let's wait a couple of clips from this display clip number one. Here too, there is a point, for me somewhere in this sort of first several hours where I would be hysterically, buying and then I would just shut down and in this down period. I remember looking out the window and thinking that

Only way to fix this was to communism was to jump out the window, and I I just I felt tat horrible. I was scared. I just those mortified afraid of where this was gonna. Do to me. You know I was in love with bill at the time so ages, I've hope really responsible That's while she felt responsible for giving him problems, she was so in love with him, but she felt- and she said this in another point to that- she she didn't come out and speak. About initially, because she did work has probably my cause problems. She was ok it with him denying the affair initially, because she didn't want to cause problems for him.

That's a tough! I mean look again. She admits that she'd. She did wrong here. He I mean he was worse. Obviously he is the one that required to not do things like that. I mean you know she did something wrong, though too, and she admits that, but I mean that as a brutal moment and Armenia imagine it's. It's not stop for her. The entire country is talking about her look proclaims. The president states is used to this sort of stuff he's had he s got a capacity to deal with it at some level you're just in turn, hoo hoo roles in there and gets out of control and does something stupid, and then your entire life is defined by it at is. Lee I mean much it could I play that clip one more time, but I want you to listen to a different here. Cause is what struck me. This is happening when we were doing morning. Radio were you with me at the time Yet I was I was there and we did the ambit of the trial. The whole show around, and I can't

call, but I'm sure I made Lewinsky jokes of shore everybody in America was me everybody. I want you to just put yourself right now, real quick back in that time of what you were doing in saying it and now listen to what she was going through at the sea. In time we were doing whatever it is. We were all engaged in, listen one more time. There is a point for me somewhere in this, the first several hours where I would be hysterically. I, and then I would just shut down and

They shut down period. I remember looking out the window and thinking that the only way to fix this was to kill me was to jump out the window, and I I just I felt tat horrible. I was scared, just those mortified afraid of where this was gonna. Do to my you know. I was in love with bill at the time so I just I've help really responsible, as we were as we were. Just arguing about he lied, he's a dirt bag. He shouldn't be president. She was worried about her family. She was contemplating suicide cause. He just wanted it to stop.

How many of us took the time? or were Christ like enough to be able to say she's, a human being wait a minute hang on something it. This is a human being. This isn't about power. The text when it comes to her think of how she was run through the mud, and Nobody really cared about her. I don't think anybody really cared about her. It was all about him. Nobody really cared about her yet interesting. She never reach It was an ally of the right. You know sometimes we have like it. You know if, if someone accused Brok Obama in a fair and was outward Speaking about it, like the Stormy Daniels's with tromp riots, Yosemite knows feels I'm sure to the law. Like an ally because she's trying to take the president down Michael O, its can never was like

I remember it was Linda Triple recorded hers. The whole reason why a lot of stuff came out. She didn't go to that. She didn't try to do drawing his career with this information- and I just knew she talked at Linda trip- if I'm not mistaken, because she knew she was in trouble, some of the other there's a war, but were more spoke rhyming in Paula Jones and in those who became p figures that works at least accepted by half the country Monica, let's get because she never really our aligned herself with the right in the effort to take- down. She had no allies, because no of course, the Democrats abandoned or immediately and you know she was a just the butt of jokes- I don't I have a realistic, that's it. It's a really interesting when you put that to listen to it without ear, because I dont know that ever realized. It was with that case in that case is a long time ago, but we were sure making jokes and stuff like ever know. What were they had to have been everybody but John Robinson was what was a guy and we ve had him on a few times who wrote a book about more in this

for media era. These people, these random stories. You hear that bubble up for one day, but being a woman, the famous most famous one woman who made the joke about AIDS in Africa, trying to mock the FAO, that meeting care about Africa enough, but she was going over to Africa on a plane to go, help she's going over to help and she was in on the plane when the tweet blew up went viral and her life was basically ruined and We read stories like that in you realise, when this thing that seems fun to give snarking comments to on the weather, somebody there just suffering through that moments. Worse moment of their lives, I know you ve done this with with emitted several these situations, the one that pops into my head was James Gun, the guy who did a guard in the galaxy and they re they unearth. Some tweets of his that were not so were not once he wanted to represent his current character and he was he lost that gig we're talking again Missus in eight figure.

You know gig for him and you are on Twitter. Saying like look, I you know, I, I understand now. You know you, you were you could I think a lot of people on the right did go after him for that, because he was a left wing celebrity, and he was critical of people like Ben Shapiro, but in those moments, if you kind of get over that. Desire to to feel that emotion, I think you wind up being a better person for it. I think you do, and this brings me on to something Else- Monica Lewinsky now, that's how she is like NL, that's all he'll be you'll. Be that moment doesn't matter how long he lives for the rest of his knife. Clarence Thomas pubic! Here, that's all that's all he is. He will always have that attack

There's something is happening in Europe And- and I find it I find it viscerally the right thing, but intellectually absolute the wrong thing that therein now you'd be in Europe. They are, they are claiming there is another human right that all humans deserve, and that is the right to be forgotten now think of it Monica Lewinsky, the case would be. She has a right to be forgotten. Sheikh sheep shouldn't have to live her entire life apologize or being shaped by one event in her life when she was twenty one years old, she has a right to be forgotten and because of the internet,

it never goes away. It's always there. And so you don't have a chance to start over again, and I really do believe this something we have to address because. Our memories. They they work to our advantage. I mean our memory soften. We think of our childhood years, is better years most Thus, even though they weren't, they weren't, we just see them differently, tie eases things. But when you have the internet- and it is right there in your face- and it's always that thing you don't ever move if your big enough of that, stake was big enough, like Monica Lewinsky. She can never move on from that. Neither passing laws in Europe, but the problem with it is will then are you

Racing history: you can you can't erase history, but how do we balance this? How do we balance the right to be forgotten? with the with the right to record history, as it really truly was We have no separation from the history now and that's the real problem this is the best of the Glen Back Programme, and we really want to thank you for listening colleague, Deja vu. As we look if lover to reach out- and I welcome. The programme Catherine Heiress, former Florida secretary of State who oversaw the nonsense that was happening in Florida in two thousand.

How are you so united by a gang of worldly goods doctor you so Catherine? I thought, but we I thought we had learned our lesson in Florida. We had when I was in the Senate. I defy path election form and there wasn't a political will to do it. But then, after being Secretary of State- and we came back and said, we're gonna path, lecture form all the media market instead of never happen what we did path. Plus everything else we learned testified for Congress. They said it was the model for election reform and it's been modified numerous times. So we have. We have an extraordinary model for electoral reform and we have laws are sufficient to take us through this alive. There were. A lot of this issue has been patients in the process. We do have a mandatory recount, we do, The manual recount of its point, five percent black gland order,

and what I mean by that is that Florida, oh my gosh, Guinness we're gonna. Have these problems were not a red state were not a blue, they were a purple state were always and I have close elections and it's not a constitutional crisis. Laws? Are gonna get us through? We can legislate this. Clearly we can't legislate. Already so yeah. So here's the problem is the Brenda Snipes thing it from a distance seems like you shouldn't been there a long time ago. She should have been fired We know that the supervisory elections, which many of our lives their main our allies, are constitutionally elected authors, we have burned excited she can be removed, but only but are not by the Secretary of State or it so or the organization of the ballot. Now the secular state can give input, but they have no authority over them. Hence we had to read or in the butterfly ballot. Now this now we have burned

she can be removed, but only about are not by the Secretary of state. So yesterday they're supposed to have everything in by three o clock this afternoon and yesterday it was palm beach, or was it Brower that set our machines? Are overheating, and now we have to do it all over again, their end machines and they are well aware that they needed to have proper equipment going into this data supervisors. Like others, I tell the Sarasota, they said hey this mid term is gonna, be a big deal, the plan for a presidential election, so antiquated equipment, but with interesting- and this is, I think, it's important and whenever I was secretary of State, my only safe harbour with people got. What are we talking about? I'm just following the law allows I didn't like, but they were the law, as we had at the time, and there are rules law. Is our Iraq, carnation, right it restrict, or

the arbitrary exercise or abuse of power by making it subordinate the existing laws that are well estate well defined, but that's a bedrock now? What frightens me was my personal occurs. We went in I never knew that are recalled it, but we and there you, the Florida Supreme Court immediately after the reminder recount was going to head for state my recount, and they were here Democrat for more interesting An Al Gore's political viability and and prolonging what is this first phase called the protest bays and by doing so, they short circuited. The trinity recounts they wide in the context is so when, when courts interfere with the law,

when politicians interfere when Lawyers- and here there unintended consequences, says here, they thought there being so clever then hands his political viability, but they short circuited themselves. And this is what worries me with these the then the Supreme the Florida Supreme Court finally intervene and said, no, you don't do you don't do estate ride recount you're, just gonna count them in these three heavily democratic county and that's going to determine the result for palm beach for and in Miami Day in doing so, they end up losing at the end of the day at the: U S Supreme Court, because it wasn't equal protection, but you ve, probably remember palm Beach, came back and said: well, that's the Florida Supreme Court that you can verify Friday our Sunday sort of an arbitrary edict, but they said you shall that's not maybe your sort of so we say

while the wet nation is waiting, we need to get on with this. We're gonna wait, you're funny everybody the time in the abundance of caution so Hum Saturday Paul. It started saying we're not gonna, be ready. You, ethics and an honestly up act, Beginner back and expand but had I did, I would have broken the law so too today at three is an is that where the judge said you, you have have done by three and for some reason someone thinks there being generous to extend. Just wrong and I'll tell you why you have the laws. It's written a row make one other point about that, but Teresa poor in Palm Beach said: oh just three hours, oh just a day, they haven't finished, counting and three weeks three month they never finished counting and

and I would have broken the law. Everything thundered that I had sought to do and following the letter of the law that we say, harbour now asked to not following the law we have, of great election laws if you dont, like them, change a minute later, like all as we did in an attitude, often or rather in two thousand one. However,. The come alone now and say: oh Addison ballot signatures, don't to match the reference and the gradual of it office that is, is breaking the law oh no, we want account every vote. Even all the illegal should even count anyone who voted account that is breaking the law in the last election cycle. Felons were not allowed to vote in the future. They will in the last elections cycled. They were not allowed to vote

They allow the to get through, which there were forty, two thousand felons on our roads and the sectaries in an election They often if they allow that boat to go through. That is break just because you don't like it does not mean you don't follow it Thank you very much for reassuring America that it's not two thousand all over again and it's not out of control. Your listening to the best of the Glen Programme, the world, is completely upside down and when it gets to that point. It's always good,

to have Rabbi Daniel Latin around My is just one of the best guys. I mean it you ve never heard, is podcast in need to listen to his podcast he'll. Explain why clothing needs to it. You know not be unisex any takes you back through history. Unease is fantastic, he's a fantastic teacher. He is with us now rabbi lap and how are you, sir, couldn't be better and thank you very much indeed only just slightly concerned. I appreciated your introduction very much. Indeed, it was far more than I deserve, but you did indicate that by I'm usefulness is when the wildest upside down issues. While you are in great demand, then right now the world has truly unhinged from reality all around all around the world. Nobody is

paying attention to things that we should be paying attention to. China is becoming nineteen. Eighty four, a police state beyond any one, beyond George Orwell's imagining there now this hemisphere if they are now bringing that technology to Venezuela. We have If a woman in Pakistan, who is a Christian who their screaming to be headed, where the Supreme Court said that this is a trumped up charges, there is nothing happening. The pakistani Supreme Court and UK is afraid to bring them in a sure realize now starting to be a part of the UK, then you all just have the fun of the last election well in importance. Let me just drop in one little thing, which which may not be relevant to our discussion today, but when you said the whole world's going create, they seems to be an exception. Large parts of Africa are actually quite sane, and- and this is a fact, Gunnar Nigeria, Zambia,

and in many many other places as well. What I mean by this is that an have recently been doing some speaking in both the United Kingdom and in Switzerland. I just got back from Switzerland last week and dam in both cases. I have found that there are christian evangelical churches pack to the rafters, and the leadership is almost always. Is pastors from Africa now. This is really fascinating, of course, because in the nineteenth century we watched England and Europe bringing the gospel to the so called dark continent of Africa, while Africa's returning the compliment right Now- and it's is really a pleasure to talk to too many of these people who are completely free of the infection of secular fundamentalism which drives so much of what you just said. Being in Europe else, when Anne and in the United States, because you viewed believe in- and we were talk about this the other day-

at low effectively plain example of it. Here's the here's, a group of people that are out protesting a speech by Ben Shapiro, bunch college students. I want you to listen to the x. Is this exchange and. Helping make sense of this review should speak tonight are now free speech. The constitution has a work. That's why he's a real every speech? I preach the kinds of things worse than some things they were talking about, I don't know what he said. It was said that quota meekly I just starting with this by foreign again when severe or because I mean they would take, it- would take a while to describe everything thronged with reducing are forbidden to stop

I'm perfectly normal perfectly natural. This is exactly what would have happened. Had a catholic priest stood up in in seven twenty when the Moslems was sweeping through the spanish peninsula day. He would have said hey. I want to give a speech, bout? Why Catholicism works? What would the Moslem Sir I've done they wouldn't have said. Oh that's. Sing, thought why? Don't? We have a symposium on the topic of it can off his head right and then they convert his church into a mosque and then move on to the next town. That's what you do look. This is about competing faith systems literally competing religions. It is not different from when the Moslem stood at the gates of the UN in sixteen eighty, three and and

was it. It was the king of Poland who actually saved the western world on on that day, it's not different from any time they ve been clashes between competing and incompatible fates. A bench Pierrot stands for, as as as do you live in sight for so many years, Glenn afford a will view based on a jail christian biblical model and the mobs on the campus stand for a vision that is based on the the Tower of Babel. Essentially, I made nine verses at the beginning of chapter. Eleven in Genesis provide a complete matrix of understanding of the tension. That is,

taking place there. But of course they don't wanna hear what he says. Why would they tell me to give go quickly, go over the nine versus. If you can, you know that? Absolutely look there, there's not at a hundred different ways of organizing society. There, five thousand different cultures in the world, but they not five thousand different civilizations in the world and you're out of the many lessons bye, dad taught me one of them is he used to bring home mechanical clocks that were broken to this time. I like I still, then I like to be two peoples. Have you got any proxy? I didn't wearing caught these things from, but he used to bring him. Me and and suggest that try to repair them, and- and I mean us left fiddling with Gear Wilson,

but there was a lesson at the end of the day. Listen at the end of the day was they are not twenty different ways of reassembling that clock there's only one and the idea that there are lots and lots and lots of different civilizations all equally as good as one another is not one that merely. I disagree with that all those folks who drowned in the Mediterranean struggling to get from Africa to Europe? Will they also agree with that view and all the people who recognise that there is no illegal immigration problem in in uniting Kinshasa and no illegally.

Racial problem in Saudi Arabia and guess what no one struggling to break through the borders of Pakistan. I haven't noticed any caravans right moving towards Osborne. Everybody agrees that these civilization, that was created by the west, provides the ultimate in freedom from misery. It prize the ultimate in terms of medical achieve. Men, scientific achievement, economic achievement and then not a lot of ways of making that happen. So how do you, when you are dealing with a religion which I think you're right this is this- is now religious fervor you either believe it or they Chris why? Yes, they burn you at the stake. They will destroy you. I don't know how scientists, even in that bill just lacked the I believe what she was really trying to say was I don't care what Ben says he's a heretic right? That's all there is to it, and I don't. I don't see how They don't realize theyve that they

not they're, not Galileo, anymore. There, the catholic Church, that's absolutely I'd. Look what to say wishes a religion from a tennis club and and really only one thing, and that is that it answers, we transcend and questions of life that essentially the most important one, how did life arrive on this point Here we are on the sort of remote speck of dust in a remote galaxy in a limitless universe, and although been searching avidly spending vast amounts of your tax money and mine, trying to find other life in outer space, which is assuming that that would be fantastic was then it could prove that this really was a random occurrence, but at the moment so far with any that life on this planet? You gotta answer the question of how we got there and they are only two doctrines to explain that and both are religious doctrines. Neither

is provable. If they were, they wouldn't be any debate any longer. One is that a good and loving God created us in his image and placed us here, that's one. You. The other view is by a lengthy process of unaided materialistic evolution, primitive protoplasm turned into plumbers and proctologist, or whatever I mean it. Any one shouldn't laugh at other people's belief systems, but that's rude, but thats, really This is all about, and everything flows from how you answer. Those two that basic question and secular fundamentalism is, has become the official state religion in America. Certainly the religion of the Temple of American Culture, the university campus and that's why the battles are being fought over there on the campus. So you did you say you're over England. Yes, I was recently on this

sing with Asia. Bibi is very disturbing you following that. Yes, I am okay, so this is the this of the woman who has been in prison over impact stand for nine years on trumped up charges. She was supposed to be executed. The supreme Court looked at her it's over in Pakistan, they said this is this was a mistake, a travesty of justice. They released her. She now under government protection, which you can't really trust that for very long. She is she ass, the UK for shelter and refugee status. They will not give it to her because they said she'd cause problems. Too many disruptions and civil unrest in the United Kingdom as looking at the United Kingdom Rabbi lap and you ve got the Labour party being investigated for Anti Semitism. You have all, the police, it seems and all of the government structures hiding.

From the the bad element of the Islamist and hiding the bad element from others is what How close are we to losing England? Well, I thought view be close. Indeed, until I had a chance, I spoke for twenty two churches in twenty one days and m, and I had expected I didn't fully understand. I thought I was being put in front of english They can churches. I wasn't you to most anglican churches in the United Kingdom to end this three half with sitting in the pews cause. They got nowhere else to be correct that dogs are going to church in New York there. It's it's their art galleries, now renounce it into tars. That's right! Yet that damn I spoke for hill. Some churches,

in Latin didn't ten thousand people sitting there, and so it was in in every church. I spoke so look I personally believe being as this is a struggle between two competing belief systems. I do think that the only hope is is not political but religious, because we know back to the year two thousand, even the New York Times, agreed that the most reliable correlation of. Republican voters was regular, church attendance, and so I do think let them in the same way that we saw a huge religious rites awakening in America, fuel the war of independence, and we saw Second, religious reawakening, propel, the abolition of slavery. I think we're looking forward. I'm looking forward to impact

the sound like an orthodox rabbi, singing on with christian soldiers that death, but I'm looking forward to a third religious reawakening, because when people's hearts change so to their politics, so you and I have been friends for I don't even know how long now and You are yourself, and to the Christians, and I hope, to be as friendly to Jews as you are to Christians, and we both know that Martin Luther King was right and yet to change people's hearts but how? How do you do that in a world where so much is justified the push back. You know people have had enough, they ve had enough and it's become insane and if you don't push back they're gonna steamroller you, I think, that's why Donald Trump one he he won because he was. Not afraid too,

somebody say something bad about him and he was in a fight fire with fire. That's why supported him? Yes, absolutely about it. So how do we not how do we not lose our decency in that look, Glenn. I don't want to. I don't wanna sound insincere, aura of flattering at all, but I'm talking the truth. When I say that this is something you ve been doing have all along. Am you remember? We shall get together in Utah And- and I ve been so many of the Gatt

yes, bringing together like minded people, I think, is the clue. I think it happens in event: Jellicoe Churches in America. It happens in both the dock synagogues add, but it doesn't have to take place in a specifically ridges environment, as Donald Trump showed and as you ve been doing for much longer win, win people come together at the mall. Remember than that great adventure, you you put together also honour to be that people happened to be people. In in general, if we would have said to those people, look you may not authority, at the speedway, putting you on the spot. You absolutely have to tell us which of these two arguments do you prefer people will put you out by created in God's image and put here by God or people grew up out of a primitive slime into chimpanzees and then people you gotta pick, which one is close, it the overwhelming majority of people who were in Utah yet

all anywhere else anywhere else that you gave the large crowds of people would have said. Well, yeah we're on the on the side of God created, can prove it or not. But if you force me to make a decision, I'm on that side, that's what the majority people would have said on the university campus a majority of people will say the other side, and then one of one of my books called America's rail which, which you did a great deal to popularize years ago, an away when we spoke about it, one of the shows that I'm reassuring that book with new chapters, because he is the big missing piece. You gotta explain this strange and bizarre alliance between Radical Islam, and an american liberalism, or what are these two groups got to do with? What will answer is everything and that's crucial to understand rabbi lap and oil?

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