Hey welcome to the alamo, hopefully this Alamos that one we all die in, but we're in the moment, but we're remembered well, has to be great end of this podcast glennon stewed died, but what a way to go out and today we're going to talk to you a little bit about the alamo of freedom, the alamo of truth and when got a lot of people like John solomon on to talk about the truth, he's just been cleared by the hill. All of those stories he wrote about hundred by russia, ukraine, donald trump, all the truth.

after he wrote about that was discredited by people like you know, what's his name, Adam schiff and the media. The hill has finally finished their work now, three years later and said, oh by the way yeah. That was all true. There were no errors in that amazing yeah. We also have Daniel horowitz on with this, and James Lindsay is on to talk about what he says is grooming, and I didn't necessarily agree with him on that word, but I completely do now what's happening in our schools. Wait until you hear his explanation and we reveal this during the show, but definitely podcast listeners to you right up here at the top. You can, twenty bucks off your subscription to blaze tv right now with the coding to the alamo. That's great! That's right! The alamo use it at police, tv, dot, com, slash glenn, and you will save twenty bucks off of that subscription. Again, the code is the alamo and today,

congolese tv, you have a new gladness tv which is going to be utterly fantastic. I mean people are all talking about blah blah blah, but before that brand new still does air guy go visit, The only thing came. Let me let me let me let me start with something that has come out just a two days ago I- and it revolves around John solomon- John solomon- is a an winning journalist. He has been in the business for ever. And he has been horribly smeared by tech

by the mainstream media for telling the truth he just published. A statement because, He has been under investigation at the hill where he was hired to be the the main guy to run their digital work, and he started printing stories about ukraine and about hunter Biden, and what was going on and also the laptop so the hill said they will get rid of him. We are wearing we're gonna have to review everything that he does and says. Well, It was published an update to review all of the work that he did in ukraine is reporting and other articles. They did not find a conflict of interests

Also, the hills, newsroom review did not identify a single factual error in any of his colleagues columns indeed after month, of digging into claims from liberal media and impeachment witnesses that my reporting was false? The hill found nothing false in my reporting. They didn't interview him, but why would you do that when you are trying to get to the truth? Why would you interview the principal person involved seems like too much work? Yeah does but doesn't matter they they have cleared all of his. Reporting. Now how much damage has this done? To John, I do think very much because he started just the news dot com and, I will tell you it is a go to source every day. For me, we want real journalism, real reporting just the news odd. Does it johnson and joins us now, high john,

if you guys YAP. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you There was a million all your only as good as your next hour. You know that guy is working for the next thirty. I know that the matter is the avalanche of facts that were held behind the dam of censorship which, by the way at your reagan, dinner speech at sea back. Do you really hit it? I'm at about the danger of the censorship but you're? Not the dam is breaking, in fact your overflowing over running the damn now and soon the american people get another truth is the news media, that's a good thing for all of us, so just so the audience knows cause. I think these are all mean. These these are earth shattering. Now all confirmed top ukrainian This official says the: u S. Ambassador gave him a do not prosecute list that huge bended I'd over and over again the impasse said is clearly a liar on this.

senior ukrainian official says he opened a probe into? U s election interference, as russian collusion fades ukrainian plot to help Clinton emerges? U s, Embassy pressed ukraine to drop probe of george soros during the twin Sixteen election, Joe Biden many twenty ukrainian nightmare. A closed probe is revived ukrainians to u s prosecutors. Why? Don't you want our evidence on the Democrats a bomb. A white house engaged ukraine to give russia collusion, narrative and early bird be boost ukraine, embassy confirms Dnc contractor solicited trump dirt in twenty sixteen cut yeah. I warned early and often that man afford file might be fake, but they used it anyway. How my mother? deputy andrew weissmann offer to an oligarchy could boomerang on the d o j,

mean it is. This goes on and on those stories somebody has to pay a price because those people are still in the this administration. Many of them and doing possibly this or worse, because nobody's pay the price If you couldn't set a better granite? That's really it and here's the thing all of that smoke. All of those stories in the counter attacks against me and peter I should think about this. There were people, These media calling schweitzer a conspiracy theories, disguise the best researchers it american. I worry it better, but you know what all of that incoming fire was to keep us. The truth of what we really want to get, which was at hunter binding, was running at influence peddling scheme enriching his family, cashing in and his father's name. In the other day, I put together a story that I think is my favorite one of the last. For five years, it looks at how, as the war is beginning, a new trade, the first war

russia invaded in twenty fourteen. I'm a bomb bindings watch as undertake. Over crimea hundred bind the sick with his business partners, addressing aren't, let's get one over dark on each side of this conflict and let's go make some money, so he goes to you. Yeah. I yeah elena bots arena a billionaire russian oligarch and then goes too Michael, I suggest you ve a very small owner and their working to get by for them to pay them lots of money, and they she right in the middle of this scheme. That's really what it is. This is gonna be like impressed meeting the amount of money, they're gonna, get As long as ukraine doesn't father russia. Before we get our money, they literally knew they were having a bet on the war to enrich the by machinery, and you go through all when the email hunter is on a first name basis with the russian oligarch he's a he's working for a company, but his father's own administration considers crop. It's all. Ok, because it was a great way for them to make money

that the idea that hunter bind, the vice president's son is profiteering. A russian war on ukraine, the first one, is really the ultimate that all of those people who are talking as were trying to hide they didn't want that story out their salad that there was so John would, by the way congratulation. That is a tremendous story: thee the oligarch other russian. A dark is that the moscow mayors, wife sure, was you're right. There the one that remember a few months ago, I met a year ago as all that mccarthy and their democratic media allies were saying: there's no evidence, and Biden was in kind I got it had nothing to do with it. Now. The only ever up that was that RON Johnson in great our grassy showed three point: five million dollar payment from that, while we just put a new document. It is the board minutes of one of hunter binds company. It's called burnham burnham hundred was a vice president diamond arteries, convicted psychic.

is the head of it in this board minutes in the in this spring of twenty ass for summer of twenty fourteen, they both at the alain about me. You didn't give them three point: five million. She gave them too drink million dollars. That is a document that the fbi she's a document. The fbi is put into court file good luck, trying to find any mainstream media that is willing to appear but hunter binding. Was calling bought arena by her first name. Billina meeting with her hotel, scheming, up ideas to tap or money for real estate. deals and other things a cocoa, You live in latin and when talking about the cocoa initiative in devon archer joke. Maybe we can get some money for petrol, poor shank of the ukrainian president by the way ukrainian president, who fired the process you're a Joe binds request Durban was a first name basis in law,

I the democratic values. There was nothing that connected them, they rely so John. May I take you into possibly you have information on this, but probable speculation. What is so What is happening really in ukraine? Now I mean this is but I believe that you know Putin, I dont know misjudged or whatever and went in into ukraine and there's nothin bogus there, but right with all of the with all of them. backs in All of the really nasty stuff really tied down finally two Biden and Clinton there it is. Is there anything else do think possum. going on is is evidence me destroyed is is there anything? Probably not?

It is hard to erase evidence today right because there are so many digital copies about digital copies in someone's acted somewhere along the way. Listen, I think the warm The second invasion of ukraine are on Joe Biden's watch, because the first one also occurred on his watch when he was vp in charge of the region. reflection, that of three things, one, that a repute has always thought Joe Biden to be weak, so if you're gonna do something, you've always wanted to do it on the weak eyes, while the second part is and Debbie nunes said this on my television show last night, and it's really resonated my mind all night and into the monetary he showed that listen, the the greatest crime of the russia collusion scandal the effort by Hillary Clinton, hang a fake story on donald trump and is a handicap two or three years of the presidency of donald trump and donald trump have not Turning to realign the relations between russia, you came, he was willing to give legal aid.

which obama was too chicken to do. He was willing to sanction Putin and he would probably what am I going to get a sort of grand bargain between the two sides that would lower the tensions but because russia collusion took rush off the table for the president, he and his team couldn't execute a piece of strength. Well and as a result, Joe Biden gets him and now we're doing piece of appeasement and we see what happens when we go peace repeated with european model. The boys like a beautiful, get aggressive and we sit back and wait or counter punching. It I I think whatever nunez was trying to say is the all these scandals that were fate by the media cap. in trump for may be creating a lasting peace solution like he did in the middle east, with the Abraham accords very interesting way to look at the last five years of history. All right back with John solomon, if he can hang with big gimme one minute, we'll be back with John solomon, author of fall out

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where the line in the sand is that's literally, where that came from drawn a line in the sand. Those on that side, no hard feelings. Leave those on their side were stan and we all know what that means. The alamo is the blaze. It is we we plan on ending, even if we're the last man standing were standing, and the stand for the things that we know to be true. Now social media is hammering the blame right now and the hosts that are on the blaze and I'm hammering, unlike we have been hammered. And that's fine. It's not gonna changes, but we do ask. I built this platform so that we could survive, but we won't survive without your support and the the the

the way to get our message out to people. through social media is dying can still reach you know, are our fan: one way or another with other social media, but your we getting if you're, depending on facebook or anything else, you're getting probably maybe one out of every ten messages and stories we send out. Maybe maybe and we have now been throttled- an demonetized, because one of our host disagreed with global warming and what they were proposing. While I always thought that was right to free speech, but I guess not you can't deny that anymore and one of our other hosts, who I absolutely love, is asking questions about hunter Biden and this is Daniel horowitz now Daniel. is done a lot of work on

cove id and agree or disagree with Daniel is sincere heat. The I don't think he knows anybody noses, but he's in the middle of the night during covered com. The people who are fans- or you know, watchers of him or readers helping them fine doctors and helping them and really listening. He cares deeply about he says, and what he does and the people who read his work or watch his work Well, he has just come out with an opinion that they just don't like not even opinion questions they just don't like and that hunter biting his role in the ukrainian bio labs, wait a minute. We were. We dont gain a function stuff over there to now we're being penalised because he speaking out this is the frickin elbow.

for anybody who just wants to run fine we're drawing a line in the sand, and so let me double down. Daniel Horowitz. Is here to ask those questions on this programme as well, hello, Daniel hey Glenn, great, to be here in the trenches and now more with you. Thank you. There weren't any day is that the alamo, but I'm going to let that slide. So so Daniel, tell me what you have found and the questions that it is lead you to what I think to begin with. We need, as the basic question two years into the pandemic, why is it that we still don't know anything about where it came from, and nor is there any effort to find out where it came, run. Obviously you and I have dug into this and other independent people I, but our government doesn't seem to be too concerned to find out about the thing that destroyed the entire world.

You remember, after nine eleven we circled in on airport security that that's at that at a service level where the terrorist attacks emanated from me, and we redress that issue, whether you agree or disagree with what we did here. There is no desire to even account for you're in the world are we engage in Dana functionary function, research, what sort of research and why are we still doing it? Well, it turns out the next current thing after covin, which is ukraine, seems to tie back into that We all know that equal help alliance, Peter Danzig, seem to be articulating. Five seven years ago, the creation of a virus that sounds awfully similar to what we now know. A third, We too, they had a partner called better biota. Another biotech companies based in San francisco out. I was created,

a decade and they run these vile lab in ukraine and engaging research of do not take viruses to see if they jump to human and animal then more pathogenic. Well, it happens. He met a biota was not just funded by rosemont, which is a hundred bite in investment firm. It turned out. He was so close with them that he almost sublet his offices to then he treated email back and forth. This is what uk daily mail learned from April. Fourth, twenty thousand and fourteen email fourteen two very important year. Your last guess just talked about that. That was the year of the color revolution, by our government in ukraine that there are no more with many biota to assert ukraine's cultural and economic independence from russia, and another email showed that he would work with bore rift ma admitted by yoda on a science project.

It's really in it real He is he refers to it, and so do the other members referred it as a ukrainian science project. What the hell is that war that we want is a corrupt oil and gas company related to former a ukrainian government officials. to do with metal biota. American biotech company is selling pandemic risk insurance, but then somehow also running, lab and somehow, knowing when pandemics organic compounds last year or two and twenty when he met a biota, put out a theme, and that is that a fifty percent chance within the next few years of a pandemic much more deadly than coded coming out on that thing, here in twenty fourteen. The after remember, mega biota was running lab

sierra leone, a during the outbreak of Ebola in africa, and they were cited in CBS investigative report by the cdc w h, your officials we're running dangerous operations, people who want to get anywhere near their so biota, theo, Nathan, wolf, who co authored a lot of papers with that lady and peter danzig on that very similar research He wrote a couple months later: twenty fourteen very important year, while Ebola virus wont, be the next global strain. There are virus Is it out there that could be corona virus an influenza viruses, for example, show that some viruses truly can spread around the world in ways that will be died and impact our entire planet so be sure seem too what they were doing. We know that the deteriorate under the depends defence apartment

Did that eighty million dollars worth of biological research. These, given about eighteen million, committed biota to stand up these vile, lead again put aside your feelings, further linsky and putin, and the geo political conflict surrounding ukraine. But from the american standpoint we just went through a pandemic that were still going through. Are we a bit concerned about what exactly is the done there with these. These do not a viruses, and how do we know that this is not the next one, so I would say that the eighteen point, four million dollars from the: u S, defence threat reduction agency, is money that get rid of anything that the that was bad that the russians had in those labs early on. You know to get of any of the vienna nuclear or nor any gas supplies or or

biological supplies that were there left over from the cold war? That's what they'll tell you were in, and indeed a ninety ninety one at that was the non luger programme to go and destroyed. If the- u n d, leftover by the russians, but the problem is in the ensuing decade, in the two thousands black and veatch special projects of the dpr, a contractor of that work with many biota they actually built a number of facilities. New facilities m for the study of pathogens that can be used in bioterrorism attacks and also we find out from some of these emails appear that in twenty thousand and sixteen october twenty and there was a meeting involving: u s: military officials, ukrainian counterparts blackened beach and met a biotech death that worked on projects ray

searching, surveillance and diagnostic of a number of dangerous zoonotic diseases, including hemorrhagic fevers and avian influenza? Why are they doing bad? What is that with the old, the soviet era, WMD project, it sounds more like their constructing rather than deconstructing. This is so dangerous and in your absence the right to ask these questions. These are the questions that we should be asking ourselves right now are really life and death questions should we be. Involved in gain of research, a great gain, a function, research, my aunt, There is absolutely not, but the the connection between hunter Biden, maurice MA and, and these bio labs his equally disturbing

and needs to be answered? It also raises questions. Is that the reason why our government doesn't seem to be too concerned about researching this you listen to them all along the last two years and covert was the worst thing that ever hit humanity and required the response that they pursued with. Down the mandate and all this stuff. But then, when it comes to finance finding out where they come from, I mean. Usually when you have a calamity, the first thing is to you know, have some sort of pearl, harbor, harbor or nine eleven commission to figure out where it came from, How had a prevented somehow they don't seem to be too concerned about that, and that's what it makes you wonder: are they protecting I valued the individuals, because it this what words just some sort of chinese venture, with no involvement from the? U s: government defence department- and u S, ngos. Why wouldn't

want to find out in all the bad things? The chinese were doing and enact the question, but it seems like we have these labs in ukraine, Have them in georgia, which is another former soviet Now let me have them in africa. What or doing, and then you would have told me that today, If you did go, I would have said yeah that that's a great idea get ahead of this or I would have thought there was nothing wrong with tina function, but I think now we understand exactly why. causing Daniel Horowitz podcast holes. Conservative review senior editor at the blaze dotcom. Thank you for raising these questions, Daniel, and so you know I stand with a one hundred percent. God bless you rate

great I'll, be fine with you take care. Thank you for listening to the best of the program, the programme, so that work and During the breakaway workin on some rights for disney, you know cause, I do know hey. I thought you were you know you no longer wanted to go. You were well, I don't, but I may be a can help them just make it even more magical play soccer. You know so thinking like black lives matter, horn, bob floods,. Works at where they may actually use that as a safe space mountain could be there.

No turns no twists verona lit room out, and you don't move yeah, it's uphill how about you about Peter pan sexually flight, one These enchanted equity room, but while its own tower of terrorist parents, you go in peace. are just screaming at you and dumbo the white or the right wing sycophant. Is I dunno Walt disney's character, a carousel of oppression? Nobody sees that how about pirates of the queer abyan kind of like that one. I don't know a great moments with MR ping game. Alright, just trying to help where they just like legitimate they say they are going to change the name of splash, mountain or change, slash mount other changing a getting rid of all of the briar patch and because it was so

systems some way, and I remember song the south south africa, which is not a racist movie. I beg to differ, One says it is air, while everybody in america does. These still cells the damn movie in europe. Ok, that's! Ok! There is bad here. You know they don't care. Now that will that's! That's that's the thing I I I am struggling to understand about disney, because there are companies who do care yeah. They are company. left wing companies that care that care and all they want to do is be left with Ben and jerry's is a good example that, like they gently they just don't like the Jews, that's just the way, their ice cream, they just not fans of a jew, yet how them chocolate chip. They have not like Jews and that's just the way that he run their operation wow and that is what they stand for rightly been really clear about. It is clear, as you could possibly be, please don't buy our

Cream, Jews, that is, their stance and their new cycle by the way, if you happen to be in it in it started out. You'll see it on on the on the containers. Please don't buyers can jews. I think, while I confess I am pretty sure that streamlined like that is an ideological company that makes ice cream disney, is did a an ideological company that makes children's entertainment or is disney ache penny that wants to make a lot of money and thinks the best way to do that or two he's its own employees? Here, no raises ideological, it's an ideological come deanna, those house in an ideological company that, like, for example, believes in weakness among gaze, be exe. ending in oman, why would they be going to but they're trying to expand their operation in countries that will execute you. If you're gay, an ideological company wouldn't do that they were there, that's putting

off it's over to your ideology? Is it not yeah? I don't know. I don't know willing to surrender on that yeah. Have you ever get that way at this point now, and it's really not on the top of my list. Do you really do care about disney, though I do more than literally anybody that I now do you followed it. It's better inspiration in your life in your career, while disney, while disney taught me walt disney and orson Welles worthy guiding guise of my life. That's all good and bad so that a major major part, an end to understand them now cause you went through this phase where it was walt disney with this incredible vision of accompanying and An incredible vision of every needs always been an ideological company yeah. He he Does that not only was an american who thought

Erika was a special place that had special ideas. Laws that made people free to dream and do, and so he built is company. That's why that's? Why? All those old shows that need all used to run round the mickey mouse club time. It was always good versus evil. It was you know, johnny to remain. It was stories. Davy, crockett stories of amerika and thou what he really wanted to do and Oh, he really wanted to or this all up ensure the family up, I really think he saw today's america, coming, he knew the family and children. If given the proper tools and truth would be able to navigate anything in amerika would be?

Shining city on the hill they destroyed, that they don't believe that they don't believe that anymore, they believe, they'll be the shining city on a hill for another flame, but it ain't truth. So after at some point the ideological beginnings of disney under walt they fade away and the criticism of them. When I was a kid I feel like was running sure, ning out, merge and crap corrected mac, amid the amount of money, they were just up profit machine wrecked, and internally, they started as they grew, bigger and bigger. They started embracing all of the leftist ideas and that infiltrated to every level, eventually and now, they're they're ideologues, but they also our business people, so they bring in the cash

but because we still talking about this, I said I surrender I mean I just don't understand because, like I think like you look at their main stream releases right there, big budget. you know: explosive hundred million dollar type of releases, faint double go down these of roads all that much I I think a lot of them are ready acceptable. Now, would you our start. Looking at this to have that their throwing out like the disney gentle and some of the south are targeting twins with and that sort of ill of their programming they go farther and farther and farther down these roads, because such like parents are taking their kids to the movies and watching it, because there in the dark and they're watching it with their kids television mom and dad generally aren't watching right. You know

disney channel on line, or you know disney tv therein may be moms in the kitchen tons of stuff and chile here once in a while to be like wait, wait what white hang on to say what's happening, is part of this too, though, that these mainstream hundred million releases are being shown in oman where that between. high school dramas they make further. Americans are not, though there not getting imported. Not to saudi arabia, so these big things are, and so they keep those pretty pretty safe and that's what makes me again. I know you surrendered on this ready but that's what makes me think they are more judging the playing surface, then a hard core ideological company. I think they are filled with a lot of hard core ideological people, particularly in the creator. side of things, as we saw in these videos this week always have been but they're just there they're, not Acting this way all around the world there there acting this way

because they didn't act this way when they were still hard core hard core. ideologues for the left. They didn't act this way until they felt, Hide is change. Tat were now in control, right, you'll notice. All these companies are coming out and is taking their masks off they. Don't they don't care anymore? They just don't care. You will do what the big corporations say, because you, and live without us. I can't wait to get to my farm. So I can prove that I just I'm of it, I'm sick of it. They are taking our children down this. This path I mean I am not sending my kids to college. I will not do really. I will not do what, if you could

find a college in there are some that that seem to have good in a good programs. I'd send him to hills. Dale yeah, I like pistols an example, but that's it There might be there right, the others we talk to other other, I'm not going to you. Just don't wanna take now I take or you get one chance. They're gonna go on! only if they go they power. Other I mean I don't you know you're you're, eighteen, you can do what you want, I'm not paying somebody to destroy you and destroy every thing that I have worked hard to end still in you, I have to say, I think more and more power or getting to that I hope so pretty, I'm there, I'm not. I've always felt like

credential ism of college is completely overvalued anyway. Yeah. What do you? What do you learn? Stu? Have we ever ever ever went oh Allah. He went to. He went to college for broadcasting. Oh, so we should listen to him now in a dumb business. I gotta know we are in it. We are in a dark eyes, but are they any smarter than us now, no, I mean because they don't learn anything that is real nothing. This is stealing ethical, in example here but like if a person goes through college and they have all a plus and on the very last day before graduation they reside dont show for graduation, don't get a degree and the next person comes through. And they get all de minuses. All through college, but they squeak through in graduate vat the majority of this country would hire the guy with the de minuses course, because they would

say they have a degree in college. That is the job miss any individual person, with a sense at all, could look at that situation and say obviously the person who got all plus through college, the one you should higher and yet this system is set up so that the person with the might minuses well get hired in almost all situations. That's insanity, that's insane. It's gotta change and how many people do you know that are why thirdly successful that maybe went to a little college or no no college, and then, if they went to college drop down there like this is a waste of time yeah I mean how many women's studies? You know ethnic studies of venus. actual studies. Do I really need? Do I really need to be able to do is this here. To be able to wait a minute, I'm working for a bank. I need women studies. For what reason bright know, what this is, I think, a problem to in that.

you see the way, look the way, our sir our situation set up right now. You have these big tech companies and they go to these fact. Checkers. In fact, checkers asked experts to get what the right opinion is and they come back and where did they get those expert right exactly, and this is the problem there are, conservative gender study experts. Now there is obviously an argument on the conservative side for these issues and we just about article no expert emperor, so we ve talked to afford she's, not a conservative, but she at least has some rational thinking on this, but they kicked her habit. throughout Europe. So when they get people who go against the grain, they kick them out and generally Being a person whose conservative is not going to college to go want to study gender issues, it's just not that within our interests that we don't have experts right, at all but are ever provided when these journalists go he's a fact checkers. This there's no one to ask is the problem we have made, people who have gone to college and had a degree they are the

there's no matter what they believe over somebody else. Who can maybe go to college, but how is really track to take economics economics. We are gone, to the experts. To solve inflation the same experts that caused inflation, and why us non expert said you can't do that: it'll inflate the money, the eggs bert said No, we want this time. It's different, we said, No, it's not now I don't have a degree in economics. I do have some thing called brain sell you? must have none and what happens we go to the experts and as it collapses because of their rights, commendations and their systems they are. The only ones will go to for the answer. That's a real problem. That's insane dad is that definition

in of insanity and we've reached. I think what I would think is the peak of this just over the past couple of weeks, one of the most highly educated people in our society about to be named to the supreme court and ass. She don't go to a biologist to find work out. What a woman is. This is complete ITALY bunkers check the pants check the junk women. I would have even given here. I can't hang on just a second and then checked in our inner panza went ok, I know how to find a woman? I would even tat taken that you know a moment of hesitation on that answer.