Sen. Rand Paul joins to discuss why he’s calling President Trump’s second impeachment trial a “sham." Convention of States Action founder and president Mark Meckler talks his push to return power to the states. Dr. Fauci says two masks are better than one, so Glenn and Stu decide to go the extra mile – how about 25 masks?
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Wow, I mean Stu and I rolled up our sleeves and we got right to work to build back better, which is something that just rolls off the tongue, especially if you've ever been to Davos or the World economic forum. We concentrate on what the country is really facing and I have a sneaking suspicion. It looks a little like socialism, but it is more of an oligarchy. We talk about that also ran and Paul joins us, and we talk about the convention of states and if two masks is better than one, how many masks can you fit on your ears and really how many is better than two all of today's podcast? I listen to the bench of the program, we're still waiting on Senator and Paul to
join us here.
On impeachment and he has just joined us now:
doktor? How are you, sir, very
Glen thanks REME on you bet
want to talk to you about the. What you say is an unconstitutional sham of an impeachment trial. I
I don't understand how you can have the the V
in the Senate to Caen
and remove when he's already removed
This is the whole point and I'm gonna go to the floor and about an hour an amateur force abode on this today.
Leadership has made a deal and wants to make a deal with Schumer to allow a democrat to
over this hearing, but my point is: if you're
teaching. The president, the chief justice, needs to be there right, but
The person is about longer president, then he's a private citizen. It isn't impeachment if he is
if someone's committed a crime and are no longer the president that form of justice asked you accuse them of a crime and you go to court, but this is only for imports.
Can somebody in the constitution says when you impede
and later on, you can disqualify, but it's and it isn't or right if you can't impeach them any longer, we are doing something that has never been done to a president before it's going to divide the country for
it's a huge mistake and it belongs.
Is everything. Biden supposedly says about unity. No, this is the most of this.
They market demand and the Democrats doing it. So tell me tell me why John Roberts isn't
coming in, isn't invited that doesn't she doesn't make any sense were here's the question you know report
were worth their salt. What do you think they ought to ask
more today. Did you talk to John Robert? I guarantee that a proper common
I guarantee Schumer called him up, begging him to come over and he said well, the constitution,
as I preside over impeachment of the president and he's not the president, because
Democrats realise this is going to lessen the legitimacy or call into question the legitimacy of the preceding, but I guarantee,
They had a conversation. People should be
orders were worth anything they would be pounding Schumer every day. Saying did you talk to John?
Robert. What did he say because John Robert Supply
it is very important. It goes
the very nature and legitimacy of this thing and with joy, which our
not showing up the chief justice, not not being here. I really think that
is an illegitimate process from top to bottom. Does the constitution say the chief justice has to be seen
in that role.
Foreign impeachment of the president. So you could
argue that John Roberts is actually right. He should,
the ear but by not being here, is calling into question the proceeding at all, because there is no call
the impeachment of an ex president of a private citizen, so he's either the or he's not he's, not the president. So she, just
calm, but there are also calls into question,
whole idea of doing it now
say: oh well, we've done this before with a country has been very divided in the past, and no one's ever been convicted. No one's ever tried to try next president, because of how it
divide the country, but also because
There is no provision for impeaching an Ex president, so the other argument do I will make today is that it's there too
about inciting violence. There's a few democrat words that we might want to evaluate number one. I was there
when the Bernie Sanders supporter almost killed, Steve Scalise at the ball, he almost killed one of our coaches, and you know what the Democrats were saying:
at the they were saying the republican plan
health care is you get sick
you die that to me sound like an incitement, if you
showing me the Republicans are gonna. Let me die you
see how years always kind of glorified movies of people committing violence when their children are going to die for not having insurance. That is an incitement to violence, but now
One Republican ever called for Bernie Sanders to be impeached because we thought that was ludicrous and it wasn't necessarily his fault that this man reacted violently, but they're gonna have a
standard for the President, who said March peacefully to the capital. They could say: oh no, that was incitement to violence and he's responsible, but not, but
sanders, not Maxine waters, not Cory Booker, who said get up in their face, so it's it's
double standard and people are going to see it for that
what does it matter anymore? I mean it seems as though the fix is in between big corporations and and government. It just seems like the fix is in and who cares about double standards anymore, because she told Tony ever does anything about it. Nothing changes
the thing is I'm not one who wants to give up? You know. I know people are very frustrated. People are like well, you know if all this fraud happened and nobody is going to do anything. Why should I even vote? I'm of the opposite opinion control
controlled thirty five state Legislatures Republican Party does we need a beat. Those
begins overland till they fix the electoral system. I'm already calling people in the Georgia legislature and say you'll need to fix it because twenty twenty
the Senate, Rachel be back up again and you need to fix it
system of your cat about twice where you purge the roles and you need to fix it. Where you cannot solicit people, you cannot use taxpayers money,
to send out applications to vote the Indian
I should have to apply for a ballot. Moveon org shouldn't be able to apply, neither should the NRA, it should be the individual applying for a ballot if you change the rules to do that, and you get back to
show your idea in person. I think this
possibility. We could get back to fair elections, and I am
Keep fighting instead of a cat
We did. Washington never could have been done. A washing begun Washington will control anything in Washington now plus those of us who believe it states rights there
election should be
the charge of the states into, but I wouldn't give up on it. We can fight and we should, because, if they do
to where we do all male imbalance will become like Oregon and now
Colorado: they do all male and bowed their. Who knows who
although to those elections, but guess why only
grass with I will
I'll tell you that this is the way. I feel I'm just frustrated in talking about the double standard in pointing out what the news is saying and what they're calling name calling cause it's like
its net nothing's, going to stop that, I am with you honor percent that we have got to get into our low.
Communities and our states,
people say: well, we can't fix the other states, but don't worry about the other states fix yours
and shore it up and do everything you can to make sure that it is buttoned up and is that's.
Metaphorically speaking, bullet proof as possible.
One reason I would say we have to call the double standard is today. If I don't say anything, Republicans and Democrats,
agree by unanimous consent to install.
A Democrat to preside over this procedure. I an illegitimate proceeding with an illegitimate Democrat overseeing it. So I'm going
subject to that and call out the double standards. And I don't.
Will win. The Democrats will win, but I'm going to force them to vote on it, and my hope is that I get forty.
Republicans to vote with me, and if I do, that shows they don't have the votes to impeach at that point, and so basically the trial is over. They can go through the manipulation, but if forty
vote that this is an unconstitutional use of the impeachment power. Then they're done
They can do whatever the hell they want, but we will show them that we're gonna stand strong, but if I don't do
Our leadership will acquiesce with Schumer they'll, be
a vote and they will go to
whole trial, as if this sham is actually a real impeachment side. So we do
to fight them, and I don't know I'm just not willing to give up on it. I keep fighting them every day, whether they're in my party or in the other party, I keep fighting fight on in a figurative,
Glenn make sure we say that the fighting is figurative, so I don't know.
We're gonna, win some battles and really come twenty
when two you're gonna find that people can be quite unhappy with the unemployment divides. Got brain was well it's as what
is doing and the effects that it will have on the economy just stunning
these things are. These things are happening, ran
you have an opponent in the Republican Party
Romney? Who is really pushing hard for it, seemingly pushing hard for this impeachment trial
and it really is only about making sure the Donald Trump can't ever run for office again. Do you think you can?
hold forty senators together,
We do have forty there's at you know. We have forty eight total and I'd say: there's five or six,
that have been leaning the other way, but to tell you the truth, some of that five or six have been more
critical of the
Trying to overturn the electoral college and of the president's remarks trying to get the vice president to intercede? That kind of thing, and maybe when push comes to shove, and they also think about self preservation, which
other most politicians. Ultimately do they made this
Well, you know what I don't think this is really constitutional and the best it gives him, and now they can still criticized the speech. They criticise the policy, but then they can say well. Do we really want to get into the point of you know why impeaching former presidents, my friend, Thomas Massey, the coercion from work in Turkey, tweeted out today, said yeah when we start doing
line up. I want to do FDR. Let me have FDR you don't just crazy notion, but
I think we can. I think we had forty and of
Ok, maybe we get forty three, maybe forty five out of the forty eight hour, we won't get Rhonda he's already city, thinks its constitutional and ought to be done, but there are a couple others than may just choose to criticise the president on the policy but may say
it's kind of crazy to impeach an next president. One last topic: I want to talk to you about, and that is we're hearing from everybody. We have to deprogram these trump people
and they're also using language that they're domestic terrorists etc, and it
It appears as though I watched the hearing for the head of the Department of Homeland Security
domestic terrorism is number one on his agenda now.
I remember the Obama years who I dont think they're talking about the same kind of domestic terrorism. There
I would talk about this- is one of the problems with the patriot. Act can be so easily
turned around and used on anybody
exactly right exactly right, but here's the Good NEWS, Glenn, the Good NEWS, is the camps that we will
sent to will be run by Katie Kirk and she has that beautiful smile. You will just take your Soma LAN, it won't hurt so right. You take your soma you'll drift off into some sort of opiate sleep,
and they will probably I reprogram here it is.
Is funny and that's the way everybody deals with it is it
all a reality that this is a direction that they're seriously going in, and I'm not
but camps? What I'm talking about
labeling people like you or me as domestic terrorist. Absolutely, and I don't want to treat it just as a joke, because the Patriot ACT
no joke and they used it not against terrorists. They used it against average. Ordinary Americans impact, not just some laboratory. Americans ever had a cell phone. They they collected
our phone calls and then James,
proper lied about it,
So, yes, it is very dangerous to see what happens. It's always
read the details of these, because they say over one hundred
terrorism like oh yeah, I dont like that. You know the people who blew up the the courthouse
in Oklahoma, I'm I'm find them get the death penalty and found them being a jail for ever. Those are bad murderous people, you that
is domestic terrorism, but if domestic terrorism is, you know
To George Stephanopoulos, I'm sure he thinks I'm a terrorist, because I refuse to accept that there was no fraud in the election, so it becomes an ideological test. I read something scary,
yesterday that there are people,
want to bring back the ideas of sedition, the alien and sedition acts the John Adams put forward, which basically was putting
Americans, including one congressman in
for their speech because
was it you don't have a right to misinform people, but then who becomes the judge of what is? Misinformation was true information. This is
scary world they're. Talking about, I don't wanna downplayed at all. We will have to, but
hard part, as you know, is they're gonna point
some really bad people committed violence. So you won't let that happen and war
to be able to be good enough in our response to say no we're talking about speech and who's going to be the arbiter of true speech. Yeah, I mean if you look at the argument between the many of the founders during the sedition act. They argued that
you could as press vague,
even lie and make things up. They had a right and the government had no place
in that argument at all to try to shut them down, I mean they, they,
it is far in their correction of that
as I mean almost to the point of me being kind of uncomfortable.
When you first here the ideas until you actually really read them free
speech means that freedom of speech- it's a platitude, but
It's true that people say the answer for bad speech or disinformation is more speech not less, but there's something
profound in that statement in the sense that ITALY,
the idea to believe that you know if, if
if you allow nazis to speak and say, Paypal thing
people by the raises. Are you allow races to speak?
somehow there aren't enough of us to combat that that somehow were weak and feeble minded enough that those ideas were overcome us. I don't think
That's true, in fact, I think America's is more excepting a more integrated in in thought and raised, and we ve ever been weathers
urges or marriage. Ah, you know I asked people. I know
I don't know the percentages. I know lots of people everywhere around me who are married to people of other races. That's a commonplace thing and a good thing
and we are. We are a country that is not a racist
country? We are not a country that each other other, so tired of these people, people what terrible place America is when in reality, we are better than
have ever been in my lifetime and gosh think of the last two hundred years, how much better it is to be alive. Now, if you're, a personal color,
or a person of Japan, trade or of your a person is somehow a minority. Maybe even a person wants to teach her kids at home that actually even more acceptable for us are just a person ran Paul. Thank you. Very much, Senator from Kentucky ran Paul would be looking forward to your speech today and see how the Republicans line up this is the master. The Glen back Programme- and we really want to thank you for Listening- arrives, vowed. She has come out on double
asking- and I think this is as a public service-
we need you to hear this. Listen, Firefox, add
our hearing now about double masking ling, Chu masks or trying to get one
those and ninety five medical, great masks do believe that that's and you know it
it is likely does because I mean this is a physical, covering Russia prevent drop
and virus virus, to get in, if you have a physical, covering with one layer you put in
the layer on it just makes common sense that it is
I would be more effective and that's the reason why you see people either double
doing a version of an n. Ninety five right.
Which is to say the obvious, write him in, but I do
it's important that we take these steps, you're wearing a mask, I'm wearing a mask, but I wanted to wear two masks
are we able to resume run now. What I really like about the mass that I got, I I
the hay global ear loop disposable, face mass that you're going to get in most places, pretty nice, but what's nice? Is it comes with this certificate
of safety. It's been inspected by the Communist Party of China, oh good, make it safe. It's got that Red STAR on it. So it's so God!
but I'm not a scientist. I know you're a doctor, I'm a doctor. Can I ask you a question as a doctor sure you're,
a patient or just a concern citizen and not a doctor of zero doctors about a doctor to doktor conversation. Is I've done it down? Yes them, I am so doktor factually said to masks, would improve things sure
I just got to ask, wouldn't three improve it more well
I mean the science is pretty clear for
would even be better and let me just put on now I got four mask on, and it's really it's three
for as long as the right number, four not or not the right number you just ass. It was bad. Alright rights servers like it would be front what yeah I'd say. I would say ten tat. We have four or five.
Six seven, eight nine ten, I think ten
Canada, time or even better. Now,
I am wearing ten mask and my ears are collapse there. Okay, so so now you can see not
comfortable on the ears
but I am perfectly from
any kind of little
people or anything like that. Now you have ten
it's very hard to get on your you have to have big dumbo ears. They don't support. I have structure
failing. My ear had masks.
May I suggest
You have a neighbor or friend with a nail gun you just
a couple of nails right behind your ears,
Not all the way, and that would be madness, but you can't get them. I take it.
You shouldn't leave your house. If you can't get ten on your face, you shouldn't leave your. Can I go with just my hands on the side of my head? Well, it's not quite as good, but I guess you could now I'm putting on an extra I'm putting on eleven
eleven eleven masks, which I think
is even better, of course, much better than two is
is eleven mass that much better than ten masks,
Oh no! No I mean it is here I mean. Obviously, it is better if you put that on that
and is really the place where your ears start to collapse, because your
now, you're, not a doctor. I am what's that
actual bone in your ear doktor back. What is the sweet spot for the number of mass well,
Could I would like to recommend, I want the five year twenty five masks: twenty five and
What what are you for all your phone,
my nose very good, no is no who break the law
you know mine's canting musty as it is of having follow breathing through the twenty five. Yes, well, that is a frame you could suffocate.
What I would tell you that he de suffocates sounds
we take a secular river this year.
The re failure you got there
the die of coal, because
So well, I guess he wouldn't be. You wouldn't be wearing the twenty five masks if it wasn't for Cofin no fee. So technically it is a covid death. Here's a difference she has his mask.
Hold on his face.
I have on my and that's why I am perfectly safe,
from any droplets that might come my way from Stan. I know still has had Covid
and I have had came here. I hate to bring this up, but your eyes are not protected at all right now, I could see your eyes, who are the smart
They have the masks and
half the s and put those over your eyes like. So
see why you're not a doktor occurs.
I'm still getting the protection of twelve or thirteen mass of my mouth. Well, that's not the other eleven on my eighty five is it it's not twenty five is it. I can't see.
Well, I'm not giving I'm not giving talking to you very clearly
I can't understand you because of all the masks.
For those of you who are doktor, let me just say that I am a doctor of humanity. You know the law,
athlete any human condition
Have we been known her on Europe S body?
that I think you can? I I
My path, I'll bet, you're, about to find out.
The things we do for you,
every day every day, not scientists. We put our
own bodies at risk, for you for science man,
are we going to get an award for that now,
signs magazine. Gonna write that no light
who might not be so if lateral, but they might would not say it's impossible. I did I just. I just feel like. We need to know what the the correct number of master, because I mean it. Obviously
Who is better than one to protect? You three
be better than to four would be better than three. What is that?
Is there any point that we stop
this process only what your ears can can hold their nearest caught my eye and only hold tat about an eight or nine Mass nine held eleven
eleven seem to be the breaking point. Then I had to actually hold them to my ears because I feel
if you were the best thing. What you need to do is basic come up with a band that goes behind the head,
because they have some of those like the n. Ninety five masks that I have have the strap that goes behind the head.
It has to so what are we doing? Can we
look with this is such a.
Apologize, look why? I'm in the radio Hall of Fame, but my staff isn't now I they they didn't. They they brought. These stupid masks tumor
How can we do this right? Please? I would like the masks,
all the way around your head- and I
like to see if we can get a hundred on
cause that would be better than ninety nine. It would be ninety eight one hundred times better. Each one is wow. Really I didn't know how it worked is just a linear process. That's exactly how it works. One hundred times better wow, you are a doctor, I'm
scientists more than a doctor, which requires all kinds of math,
so again, so you think
the? U want them ass. They go behind the head and our and ninety five masts or you want the. What you are you ok with surgical. I think surgical would be o k and ninety five, if you could get a hunt
red ninety fives you'd be
no there's wayward works annoyed, but here are good. God may will they not accompany a hundred mighty like talking?
it is seriously. It's like talking to an aunt when I,
How can you about science- and I feel it
try to put a hundred of these things, are Henrietta habit, cone, heads afterward, it's gotta. Well,
so you're not willing to sacrifice for you left your eyes totally unprotected during that experiment. Who knows what entered your eyes
or your ear. Holes
ear holes must be
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is the founder and president of the convention of States Project, which is something
really hasn't been talked about in the last four years. I think a lot of people thought oh well. Donald Trump is in office, and so it's going to be fixed
No! This is not going to be fixed by anybody
This has got to be fixed by us as in
visuals as close to home as possible, certainly not in in Washington Mark Welcome,
the programme, how area?
I'm good. It's going to be with you guys. So,
you know the problems are getting bigger and bigger. Since we last talked to the numbers of the states, we need thirty four states to call a convention, thirty eight, to ratify any amendments that would be proposed.
What are our numbers? Look like for those states that that actually
Make some changes. The eye
a lot since we last spoke as though I was there with you, I think we're at six states at that point out. Fifteen states, out of the thirty four on board that here we have twenty one state can
I think we're gonna look at adding between six and ten states if you're so will be well path. That way marks
So you re use it. He had sixteen, so you re twenty six in you need. Thirty, four. Is that feasible?
here in the next year. Do you think thirty four could be feasible in the next years?
You have to get enough of the legislators that are considering it, and so an I'm like my real. Why now to get to thirty four is by twenty,
Twenty four and I say that because we have thirty one legislators that currently have both houses controlled by Republicans republican legislators, of course, much more likely to want to take power away from Washington DC.
We have Minnesota that a split house, so we just have to flip one house. I think we can do that. I think Virginia is going to flip this year and our activists are engaged in
bring me state houses all over the country. So what about these states that are controlled right now by Republicans? What what's holding them back? Well
Fortunately, the number one thing holding them back is what I would describe, sadly, as the fringe right
and what you have both from an organization, my recognised
from way back when called the John Berks Society, and they come into these legislature,
and they try to scare the legislators and fear cells in what they say is gonna, have a runaway convention and working to lose our constitution, and my response to that is
Are you watching? What's going on in Washington DC? Do you think you're living under the original constitution right? I fear, what's going on in Washington, DC right now in the marxist who've, actually taken control far more than I fear anything that the citizens could do. You know what
I fear that it's not the marxist that are taking control. I think the Marxists are thee.
Are the hand that we are supposed to watch and are the enforcing hand.
Think we have the government colluding with giant corporations now we're living in an oligarchy, but
maybe I'm in absolute agreement. Glenn. I think we're seeing something unusual, which is we have absolute cooperation.
Article alignment between an oligarchy and people who believe
Marxism in Gonna, write or unusual thing
waiting to see that voluntary cooperation and it doesn't make sense if we, if you understand how business works it just doesn't make sense.
Unless you understand it's an oligarchy that is up up at the top
so whether the states that are close, that our listeners could get involved with to try to pressure the states
States that are immediately in the docs are West, Virginia is hot. North Carolina is hot. South Carolina is hot right now, Idaho, in just last few,
I've been in Idaho Montana, in Wisconsin all of those states. Looking very strong,
and the reality is wherever they are, even in the states that have passed. For example, in my home state of Texas, the grassroots are still very active, they're active.
Helping other states they're active in maintaining the resolutions in their own states and they're active
Other issues like right now, our grassroots across the country, all five million of more active in in ballot integrity
election reforms so market
answer the question seriously, because it is something that I heard a lot
and concern to me a great deal until I talk to you answer the question?
about a runaway convention where we lose our rights and we lose our bar bill of rights should embedded
answers? I'm going to start with the end answer in the simplest one, which is a convention
he's only a suggesting meeting. In other words, people are going to come out of there with suggestions and they're going to send those suggestions out to the states for ratification
and it takes thirty eight states to ratify that the highest Barney
our system of american governance very difficult to reach, and that means only
Thirteen states can stop anything. So I'm going to pause it, the one that I hear most often Glen, which is we're going to lose our
second amendment, it takes only thirteen states do not ratify
not ratifying means, they simply don't take it up. I can tell you
twenty for states in the United States of America. You can carry handgun into the capitals. I do all the time I'm armed everywhere I can be in fifteen states.
Actually filling in a cause- your back and sit in the gallery, not something that I do, but the idea that those states
somehow going to ratify the repeal of second amendment. It's absurd and ridiculous and I'll make same
To your listeners, I always make my
personal email meckler at cos action dot com, if you believe in the runaway convention myth
Then maybe amendment you believe, would be ratified by thirty eight states. In the list of thirty eight states, I've made that offer to millions of people. I've never received an email.
You you talk about a fork in the road that were with it whereat, and I think you are
absolutely right, you say the first.
The first. The first turn is the country comes apart, secession, civil war, violence, because we can't
sickly divide. As much as I wish. We could just say: hey, California, live the way you want to live, but that's
the second one-
which is we go back to the way we were where states have great powers to do whatever they want and they can live whatever they want. But I'm not
I don't have to pay for California's mistakes and I don't have to live that way. In Texas. We can
I'd buy me. You know almost natural selection. If you will people just congregate with like minded people, but I don't think that's gonna happen either
you say what I think we all out of work and the right to describe. I call it the great decoupling is taking place in America and I think it inevitable its unstoppable cultural
are dividing politically were dividing would have
in commercial you're, starting to do business with different firms and in different ways of doing business. I think that's going
continued and I don't think it's bad one way
decided that we decouple is the second, I don't see how that happens without violence and destruction and the loss of our place in the world in one thousand, seven hundred and eighty seven, the founder for face
dangerous world, not just great Britain, but France and Spain.
Potential worldwide enemies that would have loved to have taken over the colonies. They understood that
needed to unite. They actually didn't like each other, and this is something that we mistake. When we look back at the colonies, we think they were so united that united against a greater
and fell, but they didn't trust each other. There were sectarian. Christianity was one of the main things that divided them: trade, diverse loyalties, weed
actually really been unified in the way people think. As a country, the south is different than the north. The east is different than the West there's, actually a lot of disdain out there between the parts of the country. It's okay,
Our founding form of government came out of that federalism is a government designed for people who don't like each other that much don't
we get along, but no that they,
to be united around a certain set of things? Otherwise we going to be too weak in the world that the beginning- and we need to go back to that.
And in the tool that takes us back. There is a convention of states. We take the power away from the federal government. We give it back to the people in the states. We let California be California and Texas, be
So what are the one thing that they, the states that are joining, what
that they're looking to change is
a common thread that all of them are saying: yeah we're going to
Where we really think we should propose this three
common threads, and this is what the convention is designed to address, and one is anything that would put the government's physical
in order that would limit the fiscal power Washington DC. So that would include things that people
no with like a balanced budget amendment being imposed most,
states have them they're, not all healthy, because
them, but they do better because of them. I would be
so things like spending in taxation limitations could be imposed under that. The second is turbulence in both of these are
five percent issues. Eighty five percent of the american public, regardless of party, are in favour of time limits and I would argue not just for Congress Glenn, but also for the judiciary, also, first tapirs and bureaucrats.
How we clean out the deep state and then the last,
anything that would limit the scope and the power or the jurisdiction of the federal government along our problems came out of the reinterpretation of commerce clause. Theirs.
Authority in the constitution, for the Department of Education, energy, the
USDA, the FDA. All these agencies come from Supreme Court Quantum Court interpretations that gave this
power to the federal government, and the founders told us themselves if the supreme is out of control, hold a convention,
can proposed amendments and restrain the Supreme Court and overturn those things. So those are the things that were finding that the state
have wide agreement about. You know I've been there.
Pushing for almost a year
Sanctuary state kind of attitude until we get to a convention of states to wear these
this states that are in conservative hands and want to conserve the bill of rights.
Time the federal government is doing something that it doesn't have the right to do where it
sanctuary state for the bill of rights. We're not going
to do that. We're just not but
that's going to cost these states an awful lot of money if they did
I do not participate. You're gonna see banking
big business and the federal government attack these states- and
I too just put him out of business and me
get economically, really painful for them. Do this.
It's even have a chance to to.
Stand against what we have going on now
I think they do and by the way I am in favour of that affect our mutual friend Daniel Horowitz. A lot about this or grass roots are in favour of that.
An uneasy road. We ve never had an easy,
how those of us who love and fight for freedom, big it is doable. I think, there's there's a commercial aspect to you: discuss them
oligarchy and the government and their alignment. Part of this is an oligarch.
Problem and what I mean by that is. We are beholding
now, you and I and all conservatives to commercial interests that don't like us now want to shut it
this obviously with parlor and others being scraped from the web, and so I'm in the
of building something called the stack. We need as conservative everything,
that we need to operate in a digital world from the cloud to the ground. Everything in between that would include conservative banks. Conservative web
hosting conservative email services. If we
don't have that
ultimately, all of us will be controlled and erased from the digital world. This is fantastic,
Tell me you have some big backers on this,
There are billionaires across the country that are very interested this in this, and we are an early stage.
Because this, this really really been motivated. I've been saying this for years, but it's really been motivated by what happened. Parlor parlor.
On talking to wild behind power and a lot of other people, big money, folks and technologists on the right who want to make this happen
leave it has passed happen, work
working on the email service provider. Customer resource management
commonly called CRM, we're working or working on banking right now, a have a we work on merchant account,
bite or so people can tax hard. All of it is in the works currently good. We must have that. I am very concerned about the banks and I think, that's gonna start happening soon. Mark keep us
but a speed on both of these things? William, absolutely it's my pleasure. Thank you.
That's Mark meckler. He is with the convention of states and,
You can follow him and contact him convention of states, dot com, follow him on Twitter at Mark Meckler,
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