Here listening to the gold digger by guest episode of one hundred and forty guess what you can find purpose in any work That you do whether you're an in in executive, an entrepreneur or anything else purposes how motivate you, while also providing you with those good vibes that we all need to move forward with every task we face throughout the day, even the tasks that we hate doing today. I am bringing on Leah, wife, she's, a lecture, a researcher, writer and publish author. She is trained. Thousands of executive team members employees on the topic of mindful this she's taken years. Personal and academic, mindfulness research and applied it to our training seminars, speaking engagements Ivy League courses and a future book that is going to be published soon. Now she has worked with some huge clients from Google so linked in countless others, and what I learned

about this Stanford instructor is that she can just break it down. Way that is so applicable, no matter what your doing in your life and gold diggers. Today, you good to hear how you can infuse press. Enjoy and mindfulness into your work, an entire life every darnay, an I'm, sharing little bit about my journey, because Lee is just pulling things out of me that I have been won king to share and not quite sure how to do that. Now, before divine in. I want to go through the review of the week. This is coming from jail, photography, him and she says, as a fellow entrepreneurs, generous advice, relays and bubbly personality make her just a friend. I need to kick my by into gear. Her podcast are full of tips

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honest conversations and learn the best tips and tricks that helped others pay their own way and craft their dream career. If Europe, to dig in, do the work and tackle your biggest goals. You're in the right place. Here's your host educator photographer and makin cheese lover? Jenna culture are rightly oh wow, Go to this show I'm so excited about our conversation. So thank you so much for coming on gold digger. Thank you so much for having me I've been looking for the talk aiming at China, I'm so excited so lights at first just kind of start. I mean, let's be honest: let you have a ton of impressive titles behind your name, and all of these credentials. But I want to hear about the story in the journey that you ve been on. That has led you to where you are today. I love story if it's my favorite starting player, so thank you for asking. I turned forty MAC

the weak and its also feeling like a really good time to be. You know, looking back and reflecting and also need purpose and gulfs and professional land beyond right now. So I appreciate that I'll, get it away so the sort of short version ash is. I grew up in Jersey and I was thirsty supposed to mindful mass and compassion and meditation practices from actually my middle school teacher, whose an incredible author name, dean, slighter and still dear friend of mine, and I was really compelled by it from the first time I encountered by

you now is also busy being a teenager and going to high school in a lot of other things that were really important like to head every possible grateful dad. Shall I play basketball game than INA? Do your homework and get detention allocates that, and when I got to college my second year, I went to Stanford, which was across the country from where I grew up in. I had come to back to back expense. And says that really shut me. They robbed me to my core and I think, quits mindfulness and compassion in practice and pass like frightened centre in my life and away they probably wouldn't have otherwise. Like happens for all of us right.

Things in our lives. It so interesting ass. I love story, I'm glad you're starting their, so I had my closest childhood friends on growing up. He, let me locked to college unites the age when people have mental illness and acute illnesses, often they the answer is in late teens early twenty is, and so he developed a really challenging schizophrenia. And he and he had come out to stand for the transfer brilliant guy. He had come from bound the Stanford in large part, so he could be closer to each other. So as a big part of his supports us- so anyway, his mental house, you know deteriorated and handed up taking his life and it was just such a just shut me you now I was all he was so brilliant and wonderful on. I think about it every day

bout him all the time style in some way. At the same time, as that happens, my father aside knows what the cancer that eventually took his life. So, for me, like those, two events were so I just couldn't like keep going through the motions I go into classes didn't feel like. I have to go. Do something now pills! I can't think anything. I need to do something I feel deeply meaning off. So I was undine after a mentor who helped me put together a research plan and funding and every to go to Northern India and Levin Tibetan Refugee communities? So that's what I did and the time I spent there even further ingredients. You know that just the power of these practices to make people resilient in situations that you just put in father, but we're not only fathoms. Now they were living like, for example, the Tibetan children's village

Were there were you know all these orphans from too bad? They were out of their country. Many of them were separated from their parents, or their parents had passed away, and you know the people. For teaching them and taking care of their needs living in the houses were found like the way they practiced in your strength, for I was like this is what I'm looking for her. No then for me, the next bunches years, really came into highlighting personal practice. I didn't a hundred day six month retreats and and I also I would spend lakes three the six months of the year and retreat going through the Tibetan curriculum of teacher tray

and then I will go to grad, school or I'll go, do work in my social work in turn, check and then later got them so that in and out of those was where I really heard shaping my teaching, and so that's the kind of the bigger earlier part before me. The why behind it and that's just in all the twists and turns like our lives, tend to take We have ended up back out at Stanford, working at the compassion centre with the Dalai Lama's interpreter. Chieftain, jumper and developing this compassion in its programme and developing a course said that I had put together for the business school at Stanford, developing programmes for veterans of pity

see for emerging leaders for active leaders and organisations across disciplines, and but it really comes back to this like we need to have strong. Why and we need tat process ends. You know trying to get a more coherent, and so our personal professional, sound so let me feel ass fractured and we can be who we want to be, or at least be, more aligned with that as much as possible. I love You know someone asked me today how I would define mindfulness and I would love to hear how the Leah defines what mindfulness is so my favorite tat, the nation, is the short one of the union's. Hence because I can remember which I think there are three and I remember anything like yes- the wind nailed it-

The intense in our use of attention so intentionally using our attention, and the reason I love. That is, there's nothing in that same eyes, club was clear your mind. No thoughts, you know it's intentional use of attention could actually be applied anywhere. It can be applied while we're sitting in a meet a wound. On a conference, call well aware you now cooking dinner cleaning out for help. It argues that our homework or you know doing our work out. So for me, this integration, peace is really interesting and I love meditation, but I think we ve gotten really confused in all. This Gray popularity of mindfulness it's become overly focused on silent meditate

then with clearly I'm a fan of spend a lot of my life in doing it. But the point of those practices are to be intentionally aware. So let's keep our focus on now and we can also find all sorts of creative ways to be doing now, all throughout our direct, not just for a few minutes a day. I'm sets the tide. Define it in mind I love that so one thing that I think is so interesting, and I really want to dig into this with you today, as I feel like so,

Many a brilliant entrepreneurs and thought leaders like they all say meditation is a part of their morning routine or whatever. That looks like an and kind of like you said it's almost becoming trendy in a sense which is beautiful, if practised in a way that really gives people true, the ability to be mindful zucchini talk about legal. How meditation is changed with the days and ages and kind of what true meditation is I'm lying that question yeah well, and I love that it's in your clash in, I think, a big part of what so interesting. That is just rooted in how you ask that question that there's the history of these practices, I mean if we want to live I mean if we want a lot broadly, like polish meditation is historically contractual eyes, at least as we practice secular, like academic settings, it's ninety

nine point. Nine percent these programmes are derived from best practice. Very briefly. There are some programs that are derived from some practices and other religions lay Christianity, for example, by in the bigger picture like from a ten thousand foot view, all religious traditions have all the wisdom. Traditions have practices that are targeting this idea of how we pay attention and purpose and compassion, and in these are not be. These are expressed in different ways in different practices for sure, but I think that is really interesting to keep that rigour. You, because I think it speaks to this core human need that we have to have. Our duty is to be meaningful and to be socially connected,

without our people and feel a sense of purpose and to do all that we need to be continually stored in our own attention. So when you talk about meditation in- and you said this before too, is it's not like your lying on the floor? In total silence, White Kin meditation look like and it can look different for everyone, but maybe the better question be like what does it look like for you or in the way that you teach about yeah. So for me I do a lot of different kinds of practice, because I spend a lot of time. Training and learning in Tibetan Buddhism. Ledge has a number of different ways of visualizing and doing all sorts of different physical and mental approaches to practice.

The way that I teach meditation is very influenced by that, because what I try to do is give people access to a number of different approaches with the goal that day and away, and that really resonates and feels that they feel at home in and that they can make a home for themselves. And so you know, they're just talk practically in terms of light up, ACT is most are many of your listeners, I would imagine, would have heard some version. Others. You know something to do with your brass right when meeting meditation, often that's damage closed. Eyes may be seated on the floor. If our body can handle it and doing something or other with our brats. So the browser is an example of an object that we can return our attention to repeatedly and the physical sense

nations of the brass I like to think of as an anchor for our attention and then our attention moves all over the place, and I imagine Saying that most yah, lessening air like China. Like me, like our minds are fall from the second. We wake up with all sorts of that we want to do and ideas, and you know energy and drive so where the mindfulness in meditation practice come then so picture. If you start your day with an object, it doesn't have to be brass, but continuing this example. So we set for a few minutes. We feel the pain coming in and out of our body each time are mine. Wanders took the million things we notice its wandered and return it back to the bath and then at a wanderer again Ray and then will return it again? and will know it s like what is that, whereas our mind being pulled tortured, and why do you know what feels most seductive and now

and when is it hard and why is it hard to bring the mind back all of that process of getting to know our own mind in this really intimate. Why missing amusing lie words like seductive and internet, which is totally not my style role and loudly that now, as it were, be Larry. Mindful of those words. Yes, though, the money so that were developing. Is that exactly haunt the moment? We notice our mind as wandered off and then me reclaim the option to bring it back to where we want it. So it kind of a definition than I think it becomes really clear why this is relevant to us

in our work. Lies are transitioning between the different roles with work and family and friends and and and and what happens over time. If you build this muscle of returning the attention which we call in research, Mehta Awareness, so it's that ability, like the matter part implies it's the clicking up, see. What's coming as it did at the same time as we are doing, which so supports our ability to make decisions, do not lose chunks of days or days on end doing things that were an important, but we just got caught up in them all of those transitions in prioritization things are really boost, by this skill of mindfulness, and you can see why a practice like the brass could help you develop

Andrews tongues of other way is by the way, there's nothing like magical about the brass so that something more about, but yeah. It's so great to hear you talk about this because, One of the things that I always felt like as I would be like. Ok, I'm going to meditate everyday for fifteen minutes and I as an achiever, always felt like a failure, while I was trying to get it because I was like, I can never get my mind blank, because that was what I visualized as success and as seventy, who loves to have outcomes of everything there was never a practice, those hours a task. Can you walk? through kind of what it would look like if somebody wanted to starts no incorporating more mindfulness practices or meditation. Where would be a good starting point in terms of creating a habit or routine around it ya.

So I think you know kind of depends on you. If you're someone in, I think it's good to start without tat, because I like offering array in of options and then in our people can just pick from that man. You sell for some people to really helpful to have some sort of a class in structure in the beginning, because it Let's see you that accountability in a period of time when you're you know each week returning to their, so it helps without accountability for making a new habit. I know some of you less generous, maybe like me, and you need another cost like the whole matter. Another commitment for talent anything happening. You lie at the very sensible idea. I hear you

I feel that so then. I also think another great approaches, just the real simplicity of start your day with five minutes or one minute. You know one minute when you set up in your bag and pick a practice that resonates with deal, and you know beyond what we'll get it talk about today. You can also go to my website where I lay out in my book. Them is coming up. What I'm trying to do is take this whole many of options and give you the sort of break out cheap for where start. So you pick your practice in you start with a minute a day. Many build up to three minutes said I, and for some people, just building that have it in ends in addition to a meditation practice. What I really recommend is cutting like props into your day, our image or so in it

be things in your already doing. If you look at your days like, is there a t break that you're already taken or is there some? You know quick, walk after you drop their heads off at school for something that is already in your day or easily, do a ball and have done under your reminder to just while you're doing not walk or brain that cup of tea and coffee to drop multitasking and be present in your body, use your attention intentionally to really be fully present with white you're doing, and if you put those little spots throughout your day when there are so many different ways, the students have talked about doing this over the years. Now there teaching. So I got a whole list of cool ideas around not you know some people like my daily shower when I brush my teeth, other people, the password on my phone on my

our every time I open my computer. I put a its remit, and to me I put a deep. How does it really is you know my laptop and you know it might sound cheesy, but actually for you can remember. Thirty times are ten times are five times during the day to just take that brief break en route ourselves, because a long way One thing that I've been doing is ever Yoga Matt out in my bedroom, and I usually work up in our attic if we just finished and then food is down in the basement, and so, if I go onto the middle floor, I stop on my MAC. Do three sons salutations and then I can go downstairs so just having those cues or triggers can be so helpful in jets. Pulling you out from that head space at your in pulling you back to where you are

love that example? I love our example and like when you do that do feel like oh, I just lost three minutes and Meda Vandam nights. What so interesting about this, and in for we are on the show, is tellingly I'm, like you know, a lot of this stuff was just so over my head and I just never understood that Ah, you and I always thought it was impossible for me, because you know we loved it. Sugars into believing that we're not capable of slowing down, and so I have been just like practising so much even yoga. It used to be the big struggle for me because my brain was just going a million miles a minute and you have to just keep practicing and I think so often were so used to achieving that. If we're not quote achieving something we just move on, so I want to talk and kind of twist this conversation a little bit into. Why raw,

can mindfulness play in terms of our careers, because, just like you just said you know, do you feel like you wasted three minutes? I think so often worse, scrambling, and so we we imagined, adding something new into our routine, and it's almost like? I don't have time for that. But can we talk about why it's giving us instead of what it taking from us? Absolutely so I think the highest level why it gives us that we need is it improves our mental game. Then I've been hearing that term mental game use all over the place the business school at Stanford, where I teach and it's interesting it's a moment. I feel like where the students really hearing that all over the place, not just in their mindful leadership class by in their start at class workers. All who have created the biggest. You know.

Start ups in the world, come in and talk about what was the difference for them, that they got it off the ground and they're talking about their mental game or people in their finance classes? Are you name it because it Everything comes down to our ability to make decisions. We make thirty five thousand decisions a day. Are they gonna be good ones? There is a direct relationship. Our ability to know what the factors that we're valley waiting are which mindfulness improves, mindfulness, improves our focus and improves. Our creativity improves our relationships because we have higher and pocket accuracy. Red people more accurately, if we're paying attention, which is almost so obvious, seems like stupid to say it. But you know when we're distracted, it's the problems. That compounds are enormous, and I see that in my own business to that

now one of the biggest challenges is just wrangling, my attention and then also making choices in the moment about how to work with my team, how to keep us all on priorities, how to communicate my. You know what I think should happen, how to listen to them, stop talking, which is new, can clearly on the talons keep going. All this is your show, love it. So what are little things? Little habits are tasks or practices that we can do throughout the day to just simply become more present, define purpose in our day to day lives what are some little action steps. I know we ve talked about triggers or just slowing

in breathing. Are there any other hacks that weaken incorporates absolutely so I think we can take a deep eyes if one person and our business so in research on businesses, when you ask people what their top to pat peeves are at What their biggest frustrations are its meetings that are wasted time in loud coworkers efficiently, not coworkers. A rude coworkers, you name it. So you know you could pick one way of going about this, as you could pick something. That's a pain poignant. So like if your finding that meetings are taking up too much your time there really frustrating they're not run. While will you could do a full court press on bringing mindfulness into the meetings introducing things like

restructuring. The way agendas are sat, attendees are invaded. Time is used, communication patterns happen sometimes taking that a lot of organizations are turning to take that paused in the beginning of meetings, if not for an actual meditation for some sort of check in because people are realising that if we don't know what's going on with other people and distracting and upsetting them, we can speed through and skipped those three minutes, but that information might be really important and be the difference between all this working out or not working out in what

the numbers, so I bought a whole lake book glad together around mindful meetings, had a problem solve and how to make them better, see where you're going off the rails and improve them. So that's one place that I really recommended sometimes unmindfulness. The meeting is like starts with just when we are invited to something. Is this a good use of my time? Can I met someone else? Should this be pushed off till Q? One? You know. Rather than being crammed into queue for before the holidays, like I'm in housing and asking those questions rather than there is a great TED talk about mindless exit, syndrome for just like a meeting invite pops up, and we say yes and thereby hunk of our time and more and more so, it's like the meaning based approach in that book. Glad I was talking about you can sign we'll, stick it in the show notes, if that's cool with you and that's it, and then the other thing like clicking on the level which can apply to anyone

as starting your work day with just even a grief like, why does my purpose? What my biggest priority in anticipating, when you look at your calendar for the day. What are the biggest struggles and challenge is going to be the biggest distractions from this purpose. That is the priority and see what you can do remove those distractions if their environmental or if their things on your calendar, that shouldn't be there or, if it's just you know, I've been doing us a fair amount. Lately, I'm trying to grade and just that keep fighting myself in mail, but that's going on about right now in Box Euro locked the goal of the day, the goal the day is somehow didn't even the little plan and in more lake of that on a sticky. Now to the very short list of things. Are some people love their planners where you got to look at all the priorities and all,

savings, but I think there's a valued having it be super shore think about at each day predict year. Distractions clarify how the activity that you're doing is connected to your bigger purpose, it's like we think about that when they set out are goals for our businesses, but I think what happens as were executing on them as we lose track, and so it ends up seem like a bunch of right work. If we lose that thread between here's, my big ol for, like my big vision, impact capital, p purpose. Here's my All for this project in here is what I gotta do to get from here to there and as much as we can connect the dots that has a huge impact on our productivity and also there's really cool research, showing that that sense of moment by moment purpose has enormous health benefits.

I love that you know it so interesting when you are talking. I started to kind of connect the dots of a lot of powerful entrepreneurs who you know incorporate meditation unmindfulness into their days. I think that there is so much more focused and I think that there is so much more clear, our best yeses and the? U no need to say knows, and so it's not even necessarily the active meditation, as in I'm sitting down and meditating for twenty minutes. I think it's the art of mindfulness in every task in, and I laugh because I have fifteen tabs open on my internet explorer. Eight now add you know it's it's those days where I feel like I'm wired, because I'm thinking of all the things, but I'm not really focusing on any one thing. Giving that's true. Do you think I'm connecting any doubts, sir

We have. Of course. I think that is exactly exactly right and I think one of the best ways to deal with that factors like when we do the experiments of you know remain bring how it felt when we have these pockets of time when we are in the zone, and we were folk s down one day, verses lay a day where we were attempting to multi task and by the way multitasking doesn't exist. We can only do one thing at a time, so we switch called tasks switching in this huge costs for our time and for our energy so like doing that mental comparison of housing, steel and what is our actual

an activity and experience of trying to do all the things at one time versus doing now, while saying really meticulously, even in a short burst like this is a great job. I am a big fan of Ponderosa near setting the twenty five minute. Timer endued earnestly focused spread mean that can be an expression mindfulness, especially if you're paying attention to all the things that clear intention within those twenty five minutes, and if you break your Commodore, oh then it that's so interesting looked back. What was it that felt so important, and why was I feel that what I was I thought was the parity. There are some conflict. In the exact in actually want to do it. What I wanted to do was get away from it. So what was that about nuts? That's all productive! That's leadership! That growth that- so funny that you just said that, because literally yesterday, I made my entire team just track their hour is using the hours that, in this sense of like

It is at that we're spinning are ours on it, wasn't even in tool it was, I wanna see like what are we inspired by where it is flow? Seed actually happen. Where are we getting distracted? Where are we dreading to be working, because I think that, especially when you start to lead a tea and you know there are so many things that were doing in spending our time. I that aren't actually moving the needle in any way shape or warm, especially from a personal development standpoint when you think about mindfulness in terms of work stay and what that is- and you know what happens when your inflow absolutely so, when we're Anna Flow, saying when we're in that experience for alike, we it feels really pleasurable. We are in.

You're a ball. We are in what we're doing were Merced there. Is this focus, but it's a relaxed focus, but it's not overly relaxed its were engaged but were not hyper were not bouncing off. The laws were really in now or in the zone, with what we are doing so in the way that I like that with mindfulness practices, mindfulness is looking at how we pay attention and training ourselves to find that middle sweet spot where it is that relaxed focus and we can train ourselves and get better and better at creating both on the cushion in a formal meditation, but then applying not using our attention on the top

Ask that we're doing so like one of the traditional metaphors for mindfulness practice is a sitter straggly could think of it as a guitar string. It's to tie up our minds to tie toward a holding things too tightly to stress too anxious were bounds and all over the place. It's like the tight string or the strings Toulouse, like where'd all were sleeping. You know what kind of other end of the spectrum. That's like you know this during the fowling down, and you can't make a sound. You need that middle place to hit the notes that to make the music in the same is true or thought answer me to hit that middle range and I think, you're exactly on point. There is multiple ways of doing that. Wine is

when we are working on work that we are naturally compelled by. It becomes much easier to ensure that slow state, but another way. So that's a great way in, and I assigned something actually very similar to what you're talking about as a weighted do mine fullness of time tracking ends in that's the baseline for exploring a lot of interesting questions around purpose sense. I love that you're doing out of your team, but the other way and as you can create that middle ground, attention or state by getting better and better at mindfulness practice, yeah both work. In kind of all services, just straight up curiosity getting me, but what does your morning routine? Look like? Do you have any things that you practice right away? morning or any rituals our tradition that you used to start your day in an intentional way. Yes, I love morning routines, I think, they're fascinating

I agree with that. I will love hearing what people do I'll any I'll. Tell you mind if you tell me yours some deal cat, so mine is, if there's a kid in our bad which their often as these answer all boomerang back again. So I love just like not jumping out of bed and having even a quick. And just wishing and just wishing them all their exploring the world, exploring the world that day, it usually show after that they start Nina, bouncing off the walls and ran out of the room, and so all have a quick meditation session, and usually at that point it might just be five minutes or minute. If I really am feeling like I've, you know on the timing was how do people need to go in different directions and man? I try to really keep the interactions with

family in the morning all keeping my attention focused on man so drinking like that, first cup of coffee, you are really engaging with the kids and China's units going on with them and with my husband and then you do. All the things that the million lunches that need to be made in the bath pack sound and the fight spoken out than all of them, and then someone clear, is then I'll do another session of setting before I start my an ideally I'll do some exercise at that point, or I would schedule a red later in the day Canada reverse its pretty much a similar process in reverse in the evening yeah to weigh down invite. I love again. I feel like these intentional starts today and then putting if we do that at the beginning and the end, and then we can just drop and even these little moments them middle when I feel like I'm, actually doing that it goes a long way. What about you,

well, mine has changed so much just since starting this journey, so I used to be the girl there just grabbed her phone skirl drew The things checked. My email checked my instagram, you know all the important things in life. Not so I have started to charge my phone outside of her bedroom, so no phones, no screens in our room, and I start with gratitude. So when I wake up, I just take a few minutes to look around to say a prayer. Whatever that looks like of just gratitude and then I either read a book just for fun. So even if it's just a few pages to get my my man generation going or my creativity sparks, and I love just reading for leisure without feeling like there has to be a purpose or a learning moment from it, and then I go on a walk with my dogs are now, if I don't

take them on a walker and away? They are like barking until I go said now, just part of the life which is great, except for now that it's getting so called out its little harder, but while usually go unlike our long, walk and all either listen to music or I'll call. My mom and I dont generally start my a day until a like tiny, I'm seizure try to get any yoga class or just sit. My coffee is oh and you know, I think that what is so interesting about it, just the changes, I think for so long I would work from Sun up tell Sundown and I thought that being busy was a sign of success. Think that in slowing down I am more productive, but I'm I'm not just more productive, because I think that should be the goal. I think I'm more focused and a more clear, so it's definitely been an interesting

There are definitely days where that doesn't happen in my life looks like the old life for a crack open, my computer right at the beginning of the day, but I would SAM Eighty, twenty, a percentage of the new way, and I don't want to go back to the old way. That's me as I won't I love it. You frame it to its like most of the time is a pretty great success rate. I felt suddenly people set it up that it has. To be one of the things that really can become over. While many of its one hundred percent, then we failed and require a love higher building in that salmon either. I think we have to do anything two. I ve been working with and amazing like not like a life coach, but she's so focused on that of so even our task for this week is to just be mindful when we're getting ready for bad, so you know feeling the face wash on your skin feeling. The temperature of the war,

You know listening to the sounds and added so simple by but a lot of times I struggled to like slow. My brain down when it comes time to shut off, and so just even implementing little practices like that. I think, can help and you know doing ten minutes yoga before bad did just focus on the breath, and so it just its practice. It's definitely a practice, which is why I think what you do is just so incredible. Have you I mean: do you put pressure on yourself, because you cannot be mindful a hundred per cent of the times? I gotta imagine that that can be kind of hard. I view myself is very much a work in progress and self criticism is definitely something I struggle were so I'd, like a party could answer that Yasser now, like gas, I you know, I think the accurate way to look at it in the healthy way to look at it is you know it's a path, it's called practice for reasons. We need to practice. It's not about perfection.

And in ivory some way, I feel it last four years the begun really having more of a sense of humor around some of the lake. You know some of their self talk. That's just not have fallen almost funny because it so silly it's like really helpful life in the middle of the year disagreement my four year old, to also be criticising myself, like lay compassion teacher, should be better than we do now. I feel like a sort of Larry, David and assign fouled kind of thing. Why think? Those in our dialogue there so powerful and compassion for ourselves as probably the hardest task? We could ever be then I think that's a hundred percent right. We could have a whole other long conversation exactly on that

and why, though, and pour it re because we're if we can't be living life are small, but we also Campi entrepreneurs and growing professionally and trying to learn and make experiments if we can't sell but south credit says on become such a painful power or failing that it it's you know, the sort of cliche fails ass, its best way gets market, give it your prototype, Daniel Thick set by universes, whether things are guess so interesting. I do a lot of work with self compassion in the leadership classes I teach at Stanford and the people and companies and it's a real disconnect people can tell you the reasons why they can why it's important, but they can it's a whole into practice in a training. Weird, everybody find you I mean. Where can everyone connected? You learn more about what you do, what you teach and how you lead?

people through all of these practices, so the best place to find means to read my website all too easily a wise phd dot com to put in the show that says, I'm ahead, and then I've got a facebook group. That's about eighteen thousand people and I share a lot of articles and tips practice, and it's really about bringing mindfulness to work. So love to see anybody there whose interests said, and then I teach workshops and do I've an on line course suddenly coming out to one or two will see exactly when at lands of the websites. The baths hub for five minutes that I some thank you so much for your time and expertise, and I think it just serves as an encouragement that no matter how busy we are there. Some links

how beautiful about just focusing our attention, whether that's on our business, our relationships are dreams are also thank you so much Leah. Thank you, China. For having me it's been such a pleasure to spend time. I feel we should do part two, because I feel like we'll need it. I would love that I don't know about you, but after that interview I just want to sit and guess I think what is so powerful about the way that Leah describes. A true mindfulness is: is not this success or failure? you're, not successful, meditate- or your failing at an inch, never tried again but inches reach, directing your thoughts in bringing them back home in acknowledging the things distracting view and really digging a little bit deeper into the. Why? Behind and trust me when I say that this stuff always felt so over my head. I believed

so, many lies about what mindfulness looks like in my life and how I could actually implemented, and I struggled and wrestled with for so long bag, and truly tell you that when you give yourself Spain yes, and margin to truly be presents. You are more productive, you're, more efficient, your war focused and you can be more strategic because, instead of feeling like your brain, is a million tabs open, you can just bring back into the task that you are. Working on in the moment, so that and you leave for your expertise. Thank you. Listeners for tuning in future today show and you managed to say, hey, take a screen shot. Take me and I love to connect with you on mine here. What your biggest take boys were, as always, gold diggers keep on digging your biggest cause until next time. I will talk to you soon Thanks were listening to the gold. Digger podcast die

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