Here listening to the gold digger by guest episode number one hundred and fifty km diggers is episode, has the potential to completely change your business and I do not say those words lightly, our guests. Christina school era. Is the legal attorney and founder behind the contract shop, a contract template store Bork creative entrepreneurs, a wedding professionals and coaches. Christina is occurring eight of as well, and soon realise that she could blundered sue passions, creativity and law into a business that has brought the benefit of her legal training in all to help her fellow creative entrepreneurs. It became clear my fellow creatives needed a little legal help. There wasn't anything or anyone out there to help them and on one hand there are other legal sites. Thou providing contract templates, but We're just to generic are disconnected from the pulse of the creative industry,

On the other hand, I am an attorney is a difficult process. You don't know who is good and who is in an even if you found it. MR turning out their hiring someone to draft your business contracts is an expensive endeavour to day. We are lucky enough to hear everything you need to know about using contracts in your business being super legal, and in this episode Christina, helps flip the script on what you need to think about and know about when you come to create a contract for your business. I, so so honoured to have Christina on this shell. She is a member of my mastermind, an just watching her grow and stepped into this space has been incredible. Not to mention she is my personal attorney, so Today's episode is answering one of the questions we get asked the most by our listeners. How d make sure you are legal buzz I have on in this one could change everything. Europe,

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let's dive into the show right, Christina, I'm so excited first things very there's nothing better than having a friend on this oh and I feel like when we talk on the phone I'm hours, I dig it we should have recorded. This is too so get himself well come into this thanks. So much done, I'm so excited to be here, I'm so thankful, so first things were, as I know, about your journey it since I first met you, but I would love for you to share a little they're about who Christina is and kind of their path. You went on in the last few years. Here thanks, we met, we met a funny, it's all in retreat,

and I remember I was so stinkin scared to be there. I was transitioning for the third time, so obviously I graduated from law school. I got the dream job that I always wanted and guess what it wasn't a dream job. I was very quickly forced to re, evaluate and say basically, but has put my next twenty five. Thirty thirty five years of working life look like, and I was really scared, I'm so I actually ended up putting that job couple differ reasons and in the meantime, unlike what what am I gonna do so I ran into this woman. She was a former business corporate attorney and she was now teaching private yoga Washington DC. As I that's what I'm gonna do. So she beat you my mentor she kind of walking through it. Unfortunately, the market that I was in Atlanta is not quite the same as you see they just they were quite there. They weren't ready for private yoga at that level that she was teaching-

and in this process, and I had to start a blog. I decided website. You know this withdrew rate like you, you had some kind of representation on line those getting. This exposure to graphic design and the creative world that was kind of how I feel into Instagram and found Bonnie and then found you and so he's right before we go on air generations? You couldn't we met. She had no clue what I didn't. I didn't know what I did eve. How can he is? I remember we sat down and we're like. Ok, so there's this Christina girl and she's a lawyer, and she does yoga and graphic design like what I wanted to do everything honestly. It was so hard to pick something and it s really wasn't like there was this ahah moment where things landed on my lap. I think the closest I got to that was two separate occasions, one being walking back to the houses that night with you. China and then another being at a rising tide. The siting meeting where I just accidently out of my sight

there's an attorney during it just happened to be October, two thousand because two thousand fifteen and they the topic that not just happened to be illegal stuff and mostly about Thou contracts. So you know I showed up to the meeting. As you know, the teacher and I left as a lawyer, I felt like the professor and classic its followed her up about the questions, but it was a very tough using time of my life. I wanted to do everything I want to be a clear for. I want to be a graphic designer what Tito guy you know I was like. Maybe this data if you think, could happen because, following Jenna all of these things- and I had no idea what I was going to do to be honest- remember so Christine and I was sitting at the camp fire and sending that I love about Christine and and that I want to speak, your praise on is, I feel it Christina? You never try to fill space, and I I love seeing people that are comfortable enough, that they are so thoughtful when they speak that they thought about.

And you are quiet. You were really quiet, but I was She knew and we started walking back to the House Christina. As asking your questions like what you want to do what do you want to be like? What is that clarity, peace? And we talked about the fact that Christine as a lawyer. In that way, So many creatives and some young Springer's need legal help and she's like well. There's already somebody doing it, I'm like nobody can do it like you and like there is so much of a need for you. So what kind of happen leaving their each tree and after you knows, seeking that peace, because so much has happened in the last few years. So walk is through that kind of part of your story, sir. I mean I left and I immediately set up a score stay site, and that was really out of character. For me, I had been the kind of person who would wait and make sure that all the details- were perfect that the branding was just re that I had hired the rate designer

quite honestly, I had just run out of money if they had no other option and I was like well, the square spacing seems easy. I hinted at finding a square space template which I know they're really hard to find, and that was helpful to because I I thought I might be a graphic designer in reality, just there was we wait, I just I took action. I got it set up by act. What was it November faith because we got, I think it will Luman two October twenty five November fifth, I had a website up and running and it was just a homepage of law where a second answering all the questions that I had you know, pacifism pages full of no put questions from people at aloof from people at the rising tide, citing meeting all over the place. So anyway, that was what happened. I just took out fast action and then I was really upset because, unlike wow, I found it. You know

This is my destiny. I found like this nice combination of everything I wanted to do. I can serve all the people that I wanted to be in a way that actually cells really good and authentic and then crickets like nobody. Nobody knew I was nobody cared. I was getting old, little bit attraction to my blog posts, because I had the yoga blog that people are really confused, because I went from talking about mindfulness and yoga things just like didn't like I didn't connect with entirely and then I can really well with the legal business side of things, but it was so confusing for that audience that I've been building up with the hooker stuff, so it was definitely transition and you know like looking back. I probably wouldn't. I would win really scared to do what I did then. I would be scared to do that now that I just didn't only that are at the time which I'm really thankful for

I love that so tell us about where you're at now, because this journey has absolutely started at a square space I, and now it is something way bigger than that. Yeah for sure. So we it's the contract shop. Now it just started out as my name, because I'm again had no clue what I was doing did not time to think of a name. Just threatened Not so easy thing is always your name, that's very well, and within about six months I had gotten a little bit further into doing eleven hours, presentations and just kind of collaborating with people and the within a year. We have decided to re brand as the contract shop and at that point it was making enough money with my contract templates to two rebranded actually linked for the first time. With the contracts up have a brand

We switchover shop, a sigh and that's you spend the greatest decision of the entire business shop. If I changed everything our sales have just exploded since then, not because we switched shop, if I think that, just because of the metrics and the analytics tracking on the back and this so much better than swear space, the worst. Is I love it? We are big shop, a five fans as well, and I have that tab open all the time, because I just love to look at the numbers real time view addicting. There are people on my shop right now that is so cool I want to hear about this whole aha moment because thing that I think is so compelling about your story- is that the things out we are passion about the things at lighted up at times. We can recognise that in other people, but we don't feel like we have anything to offer and why

To that moment, look like when you're like I went to law school, I all this knowledge. I wasn't quite sure how he's gonna use it, and now I see that there is a role that I can step into gas. I mean I hate to say that biggest sent through other than those two little aha moment. Sir, wasn't like this big capacity that happened. It really was just. Slaughtering away and doings of work every day and link of writing the wrong blog posts. Writing the blog posts that I was like why does it anybody can about licensing? How come Logan interested in what intellectual property is and it was like tat because you're not talking to them on that level, and so that was a warning experience and so is like lots of

his little worthy experiences that started to add up, and I mean with your encouragement that night and with just doing the work and putting in the effort and seeing what was working, what wasn't and just looking for those little tiny bits of traction and having many epiphanes around that being like. Oh, that worked. Let's do more of that and not always perfected that so I've gotten a lot really sidetracked over the less? What is two and a half years running this thing, so we ve had a lot of diversions that I think that's thoroughness off course. That's made us less profitable than we could have. Then, because you know ages, forty two chaser shiny objects, or I thought every also launching Rollin course. I shall bunch non recourse to those kinds of things were really through me off, and it was when I started sorry guys, but look at the numbers and look at the analysts see that. Oh these, these other things but I'm trying their not connecting when I started you see that

and then I saw what was even if it was on a really really tiny level. Rightly five people lakes of long posed or whatever, where most had no lakes or something like that That was where I started to find the momentum forward and then it just kind of built like a snowball, and that's that's what we're continuing to do. So it's really really difficult to focus on the things that are going well and do more of that, because it gets boring, I think from us as a lunch for noise, but it also is what creates that lifestyle that you want, and it creates that freedom in Russia do things like join your mastermind or just two go skiing every day. So yeah, I'm not sure that there was a sad that huge peasant either where I was just like this. Is it I've changed everything, but I just knew it felt good and I kept moving in that direction towards serving people that were in the creative industry. That is so great and one thing that I

guess so important, and we talked a lot about this at the mastermind. Is so many of us have so many ideas and so many passions, and I think that that is what makes us incredible and fascinating human the, but what I always tell people is first step into the thing that you can meet the living doing, even if it's not your deepest calling, because once you're free up and you have the resources and the finances to get you back your time. You can spend that time. However, the heck you want, whether it's making you money or not- and I think that you know with so many beautiful inspiration quotes floating around on the internet chase, your passions do all these things. I think so important, but we have to you live and be able to afford to live in order to do those things, and so what I love about What you are saying is that you have,

to listen to their feedback, even if it wasn't where you are feeling called to step into, because now that you ve built this foundation with the contract shop, you're able to chase those other things it and try different things and experiment, and you wouldn't able to do that if you would have never found the thing that could afford you the chance to do that, doesn't make sense. Can absolutely I want a sort of a company every They re doing out there, I just want to sell, make up and go to make up. Fares and lake. Do all that stuff that you know. That's not that's like something tat. I think that it's just you know, there's theirs. Many things out there and I think it's so beautiful where I you know I am like, I could sit down in pay. Water color all day every day. If I could, like I love doing, I had so therapeutic to me, but I wouldn't be

will they do that. If I wasn't making money doing things that I know I could Sal and it doesn't mean I'm not passionate about those things and passion about the people by you know is its finding that balance of where passion needs income so that you can do more passionate things ok. So I want to paint your picture and then I want to hear what you are going say so. Total aside, Christina has kind of come on board to my team. This here as an attorney and were being very cognisant of or speak about on air by Christina, has taken this scary. Go atmosphere, especially as my business has grown in scaled, unbroken down in a way that makes it feel approachable that makes it feel inviting that makes it feel like protection and not a scary and Sir Christina. I want to paint the picture of Jenin culture. When she was starting her business, because I think that a lot of entrepreneurs feel this way. So

when I first started my wedding photography business one I didn't know much about photography too. I didn't know much about running a business and I remember thinking oh, I should probably have like the contract. You know. I thought that it would just make me look more legit. I didn't actually think about it in terms of protection or legalities, and so I would into Microsoft. Word intact up a little little thing that somebody could sign, and it was literally one page long and I honestly don't even know where I gotta, I probably googled it so talk to me about like what is the first thing. If you could talk, general when she is just starting out. What is the first thing I should have done in terms of the legalities of running a business yeah thanks fruit, I've been true. I believe I just need to add, like a tiny disclaimer, that the contract shop isn't a law firms, so would genocide here. That is actually my separate company. I still have a law firm, it's called Square IP law,

and even though we're gonna be walking through the second make believe scenario that has rail routes? Maybe I'm not giving her legal advice. So this is just for your information and then hopefully you guys can get something out of it. This is kind of Adam buried as far as our business goes. So in God, for that yes, so This is a really common thing that I see, and I mean I think, it's great first of all that you had the wherewithal to approach this, an attempt to create something right that you knew who, in a professional capacity that you wanted to show up for your clients and just give them something that not only could help them too Seymour is, I think a contract can really help do that, but also just show up as the professional as the leader of that situation, because as we know, most people, not all that most people are getting married for the first time they ve never high.

The wedding photographer before. Even for portrait photography, a lot of people have never made that investment before were any other service profession that you guys listeners might be, and this could be the first time or one of their first times working with the professional and they're. Probably, hang you a decent amount of money, polio lot of money to them. So you know, I think a contract is a great tool that we can use to respect that investment that they're making and just to outline what it is be getting and how that's going to be delivered and then likewise what we are going to be getting in return for providing new services to mean contracts are really does this list of what you need to have in order to reed and build this relationship together is really all about the relationship and it's just an outline of what obligations, responsibilities. You two were you three enough, there's more than a few people that are parties to the contract, it's really just that outline of the responsibilities and obligations that you guys are making to each other and so

I think, because we live in a society where we know we grew up listening to the timing, law and order and washing bribes. And now, when the lawyer comes in its own or you know, maybe when, unfortunately, maybe your parents got of worse or you were adopted or like had to deal with the legal system. Some way, usually the connotation around the legal system, is justice, really scary, difficult hearts understand, maybe even bullying type profession that you ve seen, and I really hope that I can help change that a little bit for some people, because I am so creating the less because one numberless make Olaf's stationary loveless, like I think, half or you out there with me. The other reason is because this is. Is because this is a patients ship that poverty they grow into, that users. Can maintain for a long time and this contract to me is

really just that list of those rights and obligations, responsibilities that you're you guys are using to respect each other's boundaries and respect each other's time, and just talk about openly what you guys expect from the other person I had a boss, hot professor anything doesn't do any justice to the legal system, but I had a law school professor and I don't have views jokes you're. Not. I think he was maybe China Mass as a joke. But I think you seem pretty serious when he told us that you need to make things really difficult. Explain, explain things very difficult terms: use lots of legal ease, just make it too the court, because that's how the clients come to rely on you, and so when I heard that, like I just I had a very visceral dad reaction to that, but I think it's a good kind of summary of what we see a lot of times, the legal profession and that's kind of what we're coming to the table with so, like, maybe you're afraid to send a contract, because your clients are under threat

serve because that's where they're coming from like this, oh lawyers were badly is only show up, were illegal. Things only show up when something's on wronger. You know, there's trinity, something from me in a reef framing a having an entire conversation around what your contracts has in it, which I want to talk to you about the client magazines that you have cause. I think those of all to add in two that conversation, but basically just refrain as a conversation and then at that point it doesn't matter how long the contract isn't maybe like a twenty page contract for wedding starfleet excessive. But in my opinion, there is no way that you can sit in everything that you need and like a one or two pager, especially if you ever need to enforce a contract later on which, inevitably, especially in the wedding and Sri, is always happened, there's always brides cancel. I actually called off my thing and two thousand so I definitely exerted that's written into every yeah? Well, I'm a guy

there's just so many things where, as a provider there you are providing a service or you know you ve, lieutenant, forever or Everything that you think is just standard your clients, Prob, We have no idea like I could put in what size pixel with of photos I'm deliver. My clients may not know that that assures me of what I promised to deliver like there were so many things that I didn't even think of, including in my one major. I just thought I mean to send this to them, they're going to sign it and then yes, I got a new clients. Yeah absolutely- and I think that's I mean that's great. You can ever a business without money coming in and so when people are illegal, what's the first step to starting a business that makes radio written legally and it's all good I like sell something

make with a needle, and then you know, go back in and apologize later, gay earlier see later, when you need at her, you know fixture contracts out, Nellie or making money and can afford that. But I mean I don't think, there's anything wrong. With just getting out there and starting now with the cabin. That I actually do. I'm not scared, he anybody but was a situation where somebody called me and she was like three weddings, and She just said this is a hobby and I don't even know how this happens like a law school exam, it wasn't her fall in my opinion, and the family member hung dress on sprinkler at the hotel. And so you can imagine what happened, and you know I think the family finally understood that it was like their fault for heading the dress, but you know she was photographing it at the time that the sprinkler went off, and so, like those trends, situations that we try to take, or at least I try to take into consideration the sum drafting,

and just try to think about how? How can we best protect ourselves from the outcome that we're not even expecting and then also protect ourselves from the outcomes that we are expecting, because, no matter what happens in a relationship of the client, it's always going to and you're going to either the council or be fulfilled the agreement and to deliver the photos- or you know you shop on the wedding day and coordinate their wedding like whatever it is like at some point, that agreement is fulfilled or cancel the were rescheduled or wherever and so those are just things that are normally and filling as part of the maturing. Process of a business. Those are the things that you start to add in and maybe pay more attention. Two as as you're going so you know for those of you, The one or two pager, like I'm, never going to shake my finger and judge someone for trying or we're having the contract that they think is the best fit for their business at that time. But at the same time, I think there are things that you can continue to improve upon and just can

can you to access and add to your business, just like any other area like marketing like sales, like client experience and so in over the people that are interested in learning more about that- and maybe just having a contract that isn't one or two Pedro. That's why the contract shop exists. Our gold diggers. Mother's day is sneaking out quick, and I have the perfect gift idea story worth. Ok, so is story worth essentially story worth allows someone you love to leave their legacy you purchase is absurd, shit for someone like your mom and each week store worth send your mom and email with a question about her life made, your mom replies the email with our story, or she can record it with her voice and after a year, the stories will be bound into a beautiful hardcover book. With your subscription, your mom receives one year of weekly, storing problems that your family can treasure for ever more serious.

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sound so funny, but a lot of times like you know, our couples have expensive dinners for their yes, but like girls got to eat, so you know I added to my contract like if I'm shooting for over eight hours, I get fed a meal at the time that the are eating so funny, while I just wanna guise of their yeah yeah. Ok, so I took that out. I had that it my tablets than I took it out and like the outrage that happened with what in China was then I actually second shot a couple, weddings, sure and those like this. I need a food. That in I added in, like the like, I said, the pixel sizes of the images that I would deliver, which was you know, it just one of those things where you do get clients that may be want, like a billboard size photo in you. You know you have to be very clear. I added in how much

little retouching, I would do to their images I dont believe in retouching. I think people are perfect just the way they are, but just little, over time where the union's hell. You can talk about them. All you want, but Intel it's on paper and eat Party has seen and signed it. I think it's easy your first starting out. You promise the moon and stars to your clients and, and as time goes on, you realize you ve been burned by things in its no one's fault, but your own, and so what I love about contracts, Now I mean we sign contracts almost daily, whether it is for sponsorships whether it is non competes within my team. You know we are constantly. Signing and using and reading and going through contracts- and I feel this like sins of security, and so can you kind of just talk about the difference, because I think that so many of us are afraid of

legal stuff, because, like you said a times when we approach it, it's usually when something has gone wrong. But let's talk about the opposing that about being freed and feeling confident in walking into situations knowing that you are covered but also that you are covering your client This is so God, I'm so glad. You brought this up one of the biggest situations where I feel free as so really nervous if they dont have like an NBA in place of I'm talking to somebody, that's coming onto my team or that I'm thinking about collaborating with and then a that gets further firstly, they sign in and the contract, or they have like some kind of four. Confidentiality funds that takes us to the next level than is like so freeing just knowing that I can walk in there. I can show them everything on the back of my business and that they can do a better job than they would have in my were trying to it.

Hold things you have. You know like relying on trust alone and trying to lake stroke their ego every day, so they don't. You know, end up doing bad things me if I could say that in a different way, but anyway, so I think there are some really free aspects as like a business owner, hiring people, but then also with your clients, and that's where the client conversation in the client magazine become so important because clients are busy. Even busier than us. If that's possible, you know some of you are working like neurosurgeons and fire fighters, unlike just people that have these like intense jobs that are crazy restful and they don't have the time or the wherewithal to go through your contract. Like point by point by point, even though you know that

They say they data they agreed to do that or wherever. I think, that's where you start to have the client conversation and the client magazine and hand for them and that's where they can really lean and entrust you and you guys can feel free together, because that contract like you're, saying Jonah it solidifies that agreement that you guys have come to mutually and you can always go back and reference. I love that you talked about that earlier that you said that you were going back and you we're looking. What exactly did I promise them and then it was like a checklist back off everything that you had delivered and everything you have left, that's brilliant and then you know with the client magazine and just having a conversation around at the client magazine, I think, can help ease the people that you're working with into a contract were after signing it can help them understand the contract, a little bit better because you're talking about the things that are most important and most likely to come up so yeah, like, I think,

every contract needs like a force majeure clause, which is just a fancy way of saying in case of like some crazy emergency. Like a hurricane, nor you know some kind of invasion or terrorist threat which, unfortunately into those eighteen we have to consider sometimes, when, like that, doesn't need to be a part of your client magazine, your client doesn't really care about that. That's something helpful to having something, however, did happen but they do care about like how did they pay you when you're payments do? What is the timeline? Look like leading up to the wedding things that maybe you saw the client are part of the agreement. Part of the services in Europe I think that the new really go into detail in that time line in the client magazine with them, so that you're not a meeting or self to that time line in the contract which the legally binding document, so that you know that you deliver the images one day late or reschedule Europe Pre wedding consultation for like a week later, that the contract isn't suddenly and breach so having that kind of stuff in a client magazine is really help

really helpful, but then also issues such as these. Oh it's just such a relief for them to have something beautiful, that's fine and interesting and engaging to go through. That tells them probably exact same information in your contract, but there's not a story in their had that it's hard and that they can read that they don't understand it, and so it's just a measure to build trust with them, and then it's also a great way to kind of secretly. Not so secretly get them to read their contracts. And then you know if you can have a conversation like if you can have some kind of a lot of vendors, have meetings before the client signs and just kind of walks on through the process and what kind of things that there can be working on. What they can expect, maybe even show some samples of their work. So any time you can do that you're, always building trust with the client and that trust is so critical, especially if you guys want to move into a more high touch high luxury business model, because the clients going to expect that you're really taking everything off their plate and that they can trust you to do that for them and love.

As I have two points, I you said that I might yes wine. Is a lot of times our client sign contracts towards the beginning of our relationship and what I love about the way Christina that you deliver things as it is all about that experience, and so you can take reiteration of your contract and weave them into the experience or giving clients, whether its through a magazine that you create for them, whether its through your email communication or your work flows, and so I think it so far Then social media people complain that their clients are contract. In their images incorrectly on social media and they're saying well, they signed a contract yeah, they sign up it is probably a year ago, and so we actually take inspiration from the contract and we put them sue emails like so when I deliver the images, as a reminder of how you are able to use these images and and here's what we ask of you, and here is that you agreed to a new

and make it a little bit more informal. It doesn't have to be a copy and paste from the contract they ve. Ready sign that you're already good on that end. But I think that is our job to provide this secure experience knowing that our clients likely having been through this once or twice or three times as probably their first time, and so when you have a sound contract this contract. And be woven through this experience in such a beautiful way, where it just gives you. The security, gives you this expertise. Setting, gives your clients experience. That reminds I'm instead of being like. Please refer back to point one a on the card travel saying like hey, you remember when we agreed to this, and so I love the fact that it can enhance your client experience, which is everything yeah for sure. Contracts are definitely a great way, in my opinion, to build trust if you do the right relic if you're trying to hide things or you may get really difficult for the client.

That's a good way to think I think, a booking, as you know, to not have it electronically they have to like sacks it back to you or like something crazy like that, but yeah. It's a great way to show them that your respectful of their time that you care about their intended outcome in their experience and that that they can trust you that that you're not trying to give them this agreement that so one sided and unfair that it's not gonna, protect them either. But you point out the things in her contract that hey this is actually for your benefit. So, like one of the things I added to my templates that people are really confused and upset about it first and then I had to explain it. So we do that pretty well now, but it was provision and the translation section that talks about what happens if you, as the provider, have to cancel, because

you know people all the time, especially at our age. People are adopting the havoc babies, they're moving, and so what happens? If those kinds of life situations pop up right, legal wedding, client might signed two years in advance and then look you're, pregnant and Europe do on their wedding day. So, like those are the kinds of things that that we added in an that's for the clients benefit, and so those are the things that are helpful to point out to the client say: listen, I had you cover too and that again just helped build that trust with the client and show them that your considering them from the start and then I think the client magazine or like having an easy signature process. I know you're a fan of honey book. I'm a fan of honey book is having something where they could sign and it's easy. It's it's electronic its. I look but trot exciting. I think the best way to sign and courts are moving towards electronic filing, so no, during your paper copies out? He proves grants electronics filing it's two thousand. Eighteen are signing rather, but anyway,

I think that's a great way to also show the client that you can be respectful of their time. I'm actually I'm going through a lot of different things and taking my visits to the next level, an anxious, unbelievable, the contracts that I have to sign with these, like big corporations, and none of them are electronic, like they're asking me to do these crazy things and sending this these crazy documentation that I have two male and I can't even like, could take a screenshot or a photo with my phone, and you know I'm automatically looking for the next person, who's gonna be more respectful of my time and he's gonna say: oh no, that's fine! You can take a photo with your phone and and upload it. So again, just using that as a tool to show them how respectful you're going to be of their time and of their experience. I love that you know it so funny is in the process of moving. I found, my filing cabinet, with all of my contracts from when I first started, and unlike do I throw these away. What do I do? Is it a bad legal Judah ties to toss these? It's funny you

to look at how art Hayek things were because I was the like. Oh please, male your check and you her contract to my house, but one thing I want to talk about in another experience that I think I've had the arms, for other people have, just like you said, is so when We found out we're pregnant the first time I was going to have to cancel three weddings and While I was devastated in terms of with my clients, I knew I was protected, but then action the one we had found out, we were going to miss, carry. I had to shoot a wedding that weekend, and so I knew that it was going to happen. My body could spend painlessly start at that process, which is terrifying, and I know that in my contract I was going to be okay, and so I had a backup photographer on call in my contracted states like if there is a medical emergency or something happens, hears what will happen in so there have been so many stages.

My life in business, where I realize, like these things, give you peace of mind to be able to sleep at night. They're, not the things that are scared. In fact, there the things are freeing and so she's been one of those things where I think it's almost the dipping, your toe in the water, that's the scariest part. After you do you like. I want to die, then why else do and so can you kind of share just different ways? We ve given a lot of photography, examples, but just different kind. Tracks that creative entrepreneurs should or can have in place. That can give them that freedom feeling. Yeah for sure, and that was a hard absurd to listen to me, I'm pretty hard to record so yeah.

I'm thing, and I fear that I haven't listen back to it yet, but well someday swells. We appreciate it and we love you. I love you yet so, as far as which contracts you might be. Considering for Europe is US the first and foremost like I said the best way to start a business start, making money and the fastest way and almost any business to make money is through services. So a service agreement based on whatever serve Is that your providing are? That would probably the first place that I started from starting any business and in a like, we have specific ones industries but general We like you just an independent contractor, because your typically not starting at US employee, if your freelancer or your wedding, cleaner, or a clear fur. Were you know a copywriter that kind of thing so an independent contractor agreement or if you can find a more specific one like the ones that we sell? That's that's a really appropriate agreement to have to send a clients book them or for them to book your services and once again,

any of those professions. I think you can use China's magazines that she sells in her sharp. She did not ask me to plug this just through their great resource for all the time, so that would be something else that you could add to help in other ways that we just talked about, whether a photographer or not. Other contracts, you might consider, is some kind of terms and conditions or and privacy policy for your web site. This is particularly important if you sell anything through your website. Because you're collecting a lot of data- and I mean, if you guys, haven't heard already- the EU is actually cracking down on making these things even more stringent or in african play even harder. If you do sell to anybody in Europe or people from your of accessing your site.

I won't go into all the details here, but essentially what you need to know is that when you have a website you have cookies, you have Google analytics installed. You have Facebook guides, the pixel, maybe install your collective newsletters, hopefully beard and your downloading jealous training is letter, but in our information is being collected from the people that are visiting your website, and people on the internet are from all kinds of backgrounds: education, levels, everything Enzo that terms and conditions and privacy policy. He's just there to inform them, even as ignorant as was ignorant of them might be that you are doing exactly this or exactly that. So it's a kind of economy,

conception that you know you have to disclose like. Oh, I can. A seller ran to do anything with your information is actually okay to just tell people like we're. Actually, from time to time, can I use your information with smart partners and collaboration and we might even sell it to somebody for Facebook, add pixel or whatever you just have to exceed those. What you are true will you do it without information? So likewise, if you got a really stretched terms and conditions of privacy policy- and you actually are doing things- you said you re not doing in There- that's also something that we need to look at it and make sure that that that really lines up to what you are doing with those peoples information. So if you're sharing that information was friends like their email s store, you know whenever here's your showing that fees but pixel with your ads manager, whatever it might be like you, have to disclose those kinds of activities and to share that you're you're sharing information, that's fine, there's something wrong with it: the terms and conditions of privacy,

This is really a contract with any user of your website is actually block. Ip addresses are not the most techie, so I dont know how to do this at a time of her. Who do this for me if I needed to, but you can only block ip addresses of people that come to your website and just maybe there leaving the nicest comments are things like that and so, truly is a one way. Contracts were like you're, the Lord of your website or through the Lord s that whatever, here. I would say yes France has a new website and you get to decide what happens there and when it happens and who gets access it, etc. And so that's the contract with the user to say, like your accessing it for your accessing it under my kingdom terms in the last couple ones that I want to talk about The hiring having some kind of Andy I mentioned before, a non disclosure agreement. This is kind of like the pre contracts, contract and interests allows the parties to it.

This allows the parties to talk with each other before they could get into some kind of formal partnership or formal. You know contractor contracting relationship, and it kind of his is really great. French has period So if you're like not sure how that person's gonna work out or if this is a service, you really want to having your business or use and that's a great one where both sides of the equation, like you're you're information, is protected and that you're moving forward in a way that that you know that you're gonna respect anything that they share. And likewise with you, we say I think those are the three biggest ones and then in Iceland if you enter into some kind of collaboration or you hire somebody as a contractor, then at that point the he shouldn't the NBA now kind of worse into that agreement, and you have some kind of more strict confidentiality clause in that that is even usually more strict than the NBA, because they know what they're signing up for at that point, and just really

We're defies the fact that, like they're not going to divulge any kind of business processes or proprietary information or the way that you do things with the tools they use the contractors and your team etc. So those are the three really big ones that I would have fire starting a business in the ideal world right now seeking people these types of agreements in the contract shop. Actually, we sell Anubis Bundle and it it has all this and more and its less than buying two of our templates together. So we ve tried to figure yeah. We tried to make it really affordable, just because you know with your new business, starting only there with you, Emily two and a half years into their. So I know what you're you're daily grind and budgets are like authors I think I can stress more than just also the feeling of fuel like your legit, I think that, for so many of us were like waiting for the IRA to come, knocking on our door and be like you are rested for not running a proper business, and so

I love is, is not only our you like investing in your security, but are also just investing in being a legitimate business. That's operating legally and I think for so many people, there's no step abies c d, or even that's, why I wanted you to come on the show Christina because we get asked so many legal. Questions and, unlike my attorney says, I should not answer any legal questions because I don't know, I'm not a lawyer, and so that's what I think is so incredible about what you do. Is you make this approachable You remove that bale of like what do I need, and where do I begin, and so, if you had to pick one, thing that Europe most proud about of the contract shop. What would that be? Gosh, hard question? I thought I had needs for this, but I think it would just be

and I'm scared Elles leg and I get scared. I'm really interpret Anna gets here to talk to people. I get scared to reach out to get scared to ask for things we ve in a car. You seek an end. They us everywhere. Whatever do is doing and I was like- I have a website that that's your teeth, so I think in those moments Where do overcome that- and I do feel really proud about what I ve created, then I looked- I don't just shrug off. Those are probably the most proud moments I have with the contract sharpen and the ones most excited about, love that so miles, this question very use. So if a listener is out there and they ve just been scared to starts we then start their business or to start getting legal or to dive ensue that thing that they know they can share the world. Why advice? Would you get them. So many of your guests have set their spent just get started. I mean just do what you can with what you have rightly go back to the beach

this episode, the centre, like I had nothing, I didn't, have a budget. I spent an ongoing to things like blue eye. I mean such a structure for me that even invests in like a tumbler and square space and all that cost what four hundred fifty bucks and then you know just to hear croquettes, but still to keep going after that for the next three months until I got my my breakthrough in and found that traction that I was looking for I would just say, get out there to it and just try, because even if it fails and blows up in your face, it's really good information to have for the next time that you try. I love that so where, Everybody connected you and find you and work with you got so that the contract shop, dot com and, if that's ok, what gives your ear listeners a couple different resources, and so, if you are having questions about how to get legit or you know what your contract needs have in it, I'm gonna give you

all the freebies that we actually giveaway right now, so you won't have to hunt them down on any other anything. That's at the contract shop, dot, com thoughts. I should go take her afflicted like I love that everything now and Instagram, so we have one at the contractual but the one I'm more active on his at Christina Glare, just my name by some. Oh, my gosh preceded. Thank you for giving us these resources, I know that this is something that so many people have been curious about. It has been probably the number one requested show and so I couldn't think of a better person. You come on in just share this expertise with ISIS. Thank you so much for your knowledge for making things away less Gary than they seem and I'm just so thankful. You're in my life, and you are my attorney, I feel so legit when I say I have an attorney, and I know how good you are

what I love you so much and I'm just so thrilled to be here. I hope all of you guys have such a good day and got at least something out of this about trust. Me made you so much, because I'll be honest. I remember when I first started my business. I was terrified of all the legal things like legitimately. I wanted to pay my pants. I was scared when I Christina, and I saw this light within her years ago. I saw that He had the potential to change this climate of light Reality is an though scaring us of it all and when I love is is that she continues to come at it from a place of service. How can we heightened these experiences? How can we protect not ourselves, but our clients, how can we outline things so that our clients are happy hit the end of it and hiring IRAN is an attorney was in no brainer. I think that having someone in your court now understands what you're, doing the climate of your business in what's next is so crucial,

but I was not at this point. I started, I mean I bought a one page contracts. I told you this so what I love today, show is just the ability that Christina has to break it down and to encourage starting somewhere is better than not starting at all. And what I think is, so great about what she's created? What she's built with a contract shop is its approach bull way, figuring out what you need in order to be legal. So today I hope you loved this show again we get asked about this all the time, and so it was such an honour to bring on such an expert, I'm so so excited Christina. And what's next, Until next time, gold diggers- I want you to be too legit to quit and thank you so much Christina for coming on the show today thanks for listening to the gold digger podcast,

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