You're, listening to the gold digger bad guest episode number one hundred and sixty two gold diggers. I did not wait to introduce you to this gassed before I give you the details on this wonder woman. I have to tell you how I met her You hang out on the gold digger interim young, though, that we often ask you what you are listeners want to hear We really do listen, and so many of you wanted to know more about selling on Etsy and our friend Natalie Natalie is a faithful, gold digger and after seeing all of your at questions on an Instagram pose Natalie. Reach out and offered to teach us how to make a big on at sea. I love she presented herself in couldn't help from swooning, while looking at her shop, Natalie started in Etsy Shop when she was just eighteen with ten dollars and a vision for you years later and her business, the painted press has gained national media attention, supports Turner, family, an sits in the top one, percent of all at shops. It is urgent,

and to provide an affordable, unique gift, giving option and to support her team made up entirely of college in high school students beyond the beautiful gets. Natalie is a brilliant businesswoman and today she is going to teach you how to make a big on at sea ice so excited to welcome a gold digger listener. To show and approve guys if you wanna beyond this show we are paying attention hop on over to gold digger pod Gaston. Instagram orange submit yourself at gold, digger, podcast, dot com before a diver and I want to read the review of the week. This is Josie CAS nineteen and its as most strategic and tactical podcast ever. Thank you so much. This is what we strive to be. It says I love generous cod. That's because not only is she so human admits when she has times of honor ability, but she also gives the ass strategies ever. I always learn something new in every episode and I always learn something I can actually apply to my business. I recommend

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I love it and I love at sea and I am so used to people being incredibly sceptical about ethics so like this is my yeah. I'm I'm out here to prove that Etsy is something worth taking a shot of. I love it love it! Ok! So before we I've gone into the nitty gritty, something that captivated me about. You is just you and so, can you just share a little bit about who you are Natalie, what your journey has been and what you do today, yeah! So right now, I'm twenty two! I live in furs. No, California my high school sweet her a year and a half ago- and this is like my whole life right now so about four years ago, I started the painted press, just entirely as a hobby. Nothing. I did not think this is gonna go anywhere, but essentially it went from the sun hobby. That made me no money and, like I didn't, get any orders for a little bit too. Now, four years later,

it's mine and my husband's and my sister's full time jobs. And then we have a team of people who are all part time who come in and help us with the manufacturing and the shipping and just order fulfilment, cited the business. So over this whole for your journey. We ve grown it to something that is serving. Thousands of people is just been an incredible ride, him so excited talk to you about it. I want for you to share with our listeners. What is the painted press if they don't know who you are and what you do? What do you creates yeah? So the painting press started as something it was we just kind of an outlet for me to do some crafts that I love to doing so. I exports indifferent D. I wise and started out as a way for me to give Christmas gift to people- and I was not working at the time I had just graduated high school. So I was looking for a way to save money and so give people something for Christmas. That was,

meaning for personal and just something that they haven't seen before something unique. So I went to the crass sore. I took a ten dollar bill too Michael Bonds, I had it on over and got what I thought I was gonna need to start making. What I had in my head at the time was this idea for jewellery dishes, which already exists, but I wanted to put my own speronare. I wanted to make them elegant, white and gold, and I wanted to try said being people's names into them. I haven't seen that done anywhere and I was just really curious and when I try to actually completely worked, it looked so cool to me and though we really excited. I gave them to people as Christmas gas and they were meanwhile received so I had a couple friends tell me like hey. You should list these on at sea, this really cool and I was in between semesters at the time, so I think, weird wine I'll just check it out I'll, try it, and so I listed them there at sea is extremely easy to use. Actually, when I got on the planet

formed by the time I logged off. I already had a shop, and I had a shop name and a couple items listed and the monetary kind of wrist that you have to take out fun is nothing. It cost zero dollars and twenty cents to listen item. Fortunately I was broke, but it wasn't that broke so I had zero dollars and twenty cents, and so I listen to a few of these, but as the semester started, I was just thinking like okay, I was to them. I don't expect anything to come of this, so I really just put it on the back burner and decided to focus on my school. I majored in speech language pathology, which is completely like a medical degree, so it had nothing to do with these crops that I had started making. So I decided to like just focus on school for a little bit, but as I think just because it was the only thing that looked like what it did on

see. I think people started to take a chance on it. Even though I had no sales, no reviews, nothing like that, it was something different and if you have a similar style asked me this is something that people were actually looking for. So within a month I had a couple of orders and as a wall aid that was really exciting. For me, I didn't think, anyone would want them by so those first couple orders were like I was happy man saying goes like this is awesome, and so I got to make a couple, and I think every new order. I got to refine my practice a little bit more got to kind of, sitter. Maybe making business cards may be, making sure that my packaging was consists in endless release, the evolved from there. And then from there for the first couple of months it was just this please slow trickle of orders every now and again and then actually a few months and after it sent out a couple,

and I got a really about her view and not like a negative review like a mean review, and at that point I was thinking like us not where there I don't. Fair enough about this- and I didn't know really how to handle criticism, so at that point as, like you know I'll, just close it down, it was fun. I tried it, but I'm done so. I told my and set at dinner and they both on their own businesses, and there were like whites like one person, you're gonna, listen to one person and keep it all up for that and, as I guess, and there are no, you should absolutely keep going, and just because I like there are supporting them telling me that I should use this review

to better myself and to use it kind of us motivation even prove that person wrong. I decided to keep going so I think that an important point, because I had never handled criticism and everyone's going to face it, and that was almost the end of the story. If I had listened to myself at that point, I just would have been done it just wasn't worth doing so after it. Like a few months more, my sister decided to come on and start helping me with a few things. She is a water color artists and we started experimenting with what color on the clay and that actually works really well, so we started doing custom orders together and we got a lot of brides bridesmaids people who wanted to incorporate their wedding colors into the jewelry dish. So we actually had a fine time kind of collaborating together and

They got to hone into this idea that I had originally had and really kind of capitalism and make this long niche for ourselves where people were coming to us because they wanted something that they weren't finding other places, and so I think this whole first year of lake, organic growth, really slow growth was so important for what was about to happen. Next tell what happened next, so about a You're later it was November of two thousand fifteen, and I was just for a few holiday orders that I gotten and one day my found just started exploding like Etsy order notification. And through the roof, constantly every few minutes, and I was like what the heck I just figured. It was broken or something so I hopped only computer because my phone actually stopped working it crash because of all the notifications coming in.

So how to my computer- and I went over to the Etsy Analytics- and it took me over to the Huffington Post they're just published an article called something my top personalized gifts of He sees and number one on. The list was my jewelry, this is not always the easy I mean. I can't even tell you what happened. They literally can't remember, link screamed like call my parents down, and I was just like it was surreal, because I really haven't had any press up until that point. So it's a very weird experience going from nothing to the Huffington Posts, zero to a hundred, essentially it's all. I can say that for a minute and was just so so excited and then thought like really sober, really. Fast, because I was looking at these hundreds of artists coming in and in hundreds of all is that an order can equal one dish or it can equal. Twenty five anywhere between like aid can be anything, and

These orders, coming in hundreds, actually equalled thousands of joy dishes that I was supposed to made by myself and ship out in a few weeks before Christmas, and so That was not gonna work and I knew that wasn't gonna work, so my excitement lasted fifteen seconds and then I went into like ok game plan mode. How do I do this because all of these people have put their pay? me and I'm about to let a lot of people down if I can't make it happen. So actually that night, my husband who was my boyfriend at the time and put in his two weeks notice at work and my sister decided to come. Full time with me. I hired my brother on the spot because he had been kind of around it and and he knew what we We're doing. I hired Another girl from my church, who has an awesome, work ethic and she actually still works with me today and I hired my parents who would come in and after they were done with their own jobs. I think they just really didn't want to see me flop, and so there

make sure you can hire ass. I guess, since I had to see my people and then a couple days later, I got us all into a studio and we move. Then on Thanksgiving Day and that was how dire like our situation was. We actually moved in that day and had our first workday on Thanksgiving and we stopped for Turkey, but it that was our first work day and then we just spent the next few weeks. I mean shipping hundreds of orders. We were shipping between fifty to seventy I package is a day: oh my god, yeah we barely made it. We need a on December twentieth. We sent out the last of our orders, so everything arrived by Christmas Eve, but I was putting in sixteen to eighteen hours a day. My husband was also putting it about that amount of time. We were also in finals, weak zone, They were all trying to not bob,

finally- and I mean it- was a crazy that was a growing pain like nothing I can even describe properly. It was absent we, after a year of very slow, steady growth. Absolutely overnight growth and so ever since that point, I think that, like after sending out orders. I was motivated to do a couple things, a sleep, a lot for the next like weak and a half. I just wanted to sleep and, like you know, recover from now will experience and then be. I was so apt that this was actually like the real deal after seeing the number of orders and just the amount of revenue. That came in. I was realizing this. Can be a real business. If I can kind of hang onto this moment home and allow that to push me into the new year. I can make this work and

So we were motivated. We were making new designs. I was really researching at sea and like what is at sea, a ceo, what our key words, what our tags, all of the south in just listening to anything. I could get my hands on because There is a lot of the lot of information. They're about sea, but you can't find any of it in the same way it's really hard like you, you got one website, those one really good article another. Site and they have won podcast about it in it. So it's like I was just gleaning from wherever I could to try to learn everything about this platform that had just like the surprise the hell out of me I was so into so ever since then. It's been kind of like

a slow growth, but like a very it's been good ever since the first year and then that complete push to get through that season. I think that push showed me just how much were capable of doing in such a short amount of time and from there it's. We gone uphill. It's been awesome, that's amazing, and we recently went viral and, as you know, it's like the craziest experience that no one can prepare you for so during that on top of finals weak, oh my gosh you, amazing I mean it's, it's so funny way. You'll do when you have really no choice when you're only choices like either succeed or fail. It's amazing how much you can find within yourself to allow yourself to succeed, like I, no, I don't even know how I worked that us work. How any of us work that much my parents there

saying I don't know why they even came in to help me. I think they really just didn't want to see me like curl up into a ball and finance So yeah I mean you absolutely understand when something like that hits you there's nothing. You could have done to prepare for it. So. What have the different kind? seasons of the painted press. Look like like. We know this slow growth that we know the explosion. Where has it been since because you ve been doing this for a little while now yeah so Knothole whole next year I started thinking about, I mean serious branding. I'm kind of ashamed to say that that whole first year I really didn't take it seriously. I didn't brand myself. I actually started the business under another name. It was a french name. No one could pronounce it except for me, and I mean I just didn't think practically about any of those details. I used to cut our business

cards by hands like print them out on eight by eleven sheets of paper and cut them out. So it was a lot of lake. Streamlining making sure that everything I was doing. I was getting like good wholesale rates on clay on boxes, that kind of stuff. So far I will focus on that. I made sure that I was really making the process as easy for myself and as inexpensive as possible, because I had to hire all of these other people to come on so really kind of allocating funds to different things and prioritizing what was important. And then I started just really focusing and making sure that our at sea was. We were coming up in search results, so I started targeting are different was sitting so one of our lives sings was great for wedding, so I made sure

the tags were there for that. Instead of just calling it jewelry dish ring dash, I called a wedding gift: personalized winning customized wedding, get in really making sure that people who are people know what they want in. It's really hard as a producer to think like your customer, because I want to think like logically, while this is a ring dash, that's what Should market access by people are looking for a wedding gift and they don't know when they're looking for that. That could be a ring. Deston, though, focusing on that and so that whole next year was great honestly like slow, I say slow growth, but there were absent flows. Of course, those busy season, those wedding season and thence one thing. That was just amazing that was beyond validating the site to Corey reached out to us. If, for anyone who does- No, it's a Korea's. They are amazing, raise liners, yes, like manufacturer and distribute to George every

where and they reached out to me and they wanted to work with on a celebrity order that they had so they sent over like six hundred names. All of them or not all of them, but most of them. I recognise as just like huge celebrities, and they were like out. We're gonna give em to these jests. I think it was called, though I think it was the Marie Clare Power trip. So I created all of these ring dishes for that a ban, and they said that they were so well received that they were to officially partner with us, and that was like a mind blow, and so now, if you you're a buyer for two Corey, you have the option to place a purchase order for a lot of two Corey ring dishes that are all gonna be made by us. So it's just little things like that that happened that really kind of boosted my momentum? There is always something going on. That was a motivating factor to keep going.

Cyber weird question about that experience. But to Korea did you have to donate those dishes or did they pay for them? They paid for them I always have always been very Effie about donating products anywhere, so I've tried to send my ground and really only enter into contracts where I feel like they are fairly treating us for our work. In our time, antiquaries been amazing, like bay, highly value ass. We actually, when done to their headquarters and met them, met like our contacts there, but other people who were Then we got to walk through their whole process from like the man that are in the leg is so cool. They have different studios for different parts of the process and so there's all those guys working on lakes. Handing down all the tools I dont know what they're doing, but it looks really cool and then like their pr department in just the whole experience is amazing and they really have been so sweet to us the whole time and definitely have valued

I think that such an important lesson, because a lot of times you'll get opportunities, especially when you're newer, that people I'm telling you what a great opportunity something is, but it not actually grow your business, and so I think, narrowly adjust speaks to how your treating this as real business, it's not a hobby, something that is bringing you income, and I know that there are just so many shiny things rests out there in this world. In so many ass for us as we grow our businesses, and so thank you for sharing that they think a lot of times. People get requests like that, and it's not pay and then you're working around the clock for free for something that might not have as much benefit as people make. It seem yeah. Absolutely it's always hard to say no up front something like that, but once you really start to understand your worth and your value you it's gonna, stick out to you when companies also understand your work

Absolutely so, let's talk about at sea as a platform. I know I first discovered it back in two thousand and ten when we are planning our wedding kudos, do you know, because I was kind of when it was getting started, but what are some of the biggest prose of at sea? Okay, so why I love about at sea? Is that a it's ready for you, wherever you are in your business. So, for me, like, I said, different name: no business cards, no kind of brand identity at all, and I was still able to go on there and set up a shop set up a few s, things with no strings attached, and I didn't look I don't really know how to say I didn't look stupid on that platform. Learn people there that they're just doing it as a hobby and its people of all ages, people who just kind of want to sell their grandma's Knick knacks that they found or in then also brands that like this, is a huge

source of revenue for them. So it really is an all inclusive platform. That's ready for you wear your act now, and I also just love that lake as you grow they allow you to grow and they support that. So you can customize your logo. You can customize a shop had her, so you can really kind of form your own identity in your own time on their platform and they're. Happy too, like support you off the platform as well, so you can link to your own way site you can link dear social media and they understand and they are not trying to sell you in this light at sea, is the end all be all to your business. They know that it's just simply a platform that celebrates makers celebrates artists and I've seen them do that, like they actually want you to succeed and they're gonna help. You succeed once you kind of a stable

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and dot com enter gold. Digger ship station make ship happen. That is so awesome. Okay, so I love all that now. Let's do the flip side of the coin. Are there any cons about being on at sea in your opinion? So I think that, like any platform online, and we ve seen this a lot with Instagram whenever there any changes. The arab people who are very upset about those changes There are people who are like. I love it. I think and screen so I personally have loved. All of the changes at sea is made. I think that there

great, in my opinion and in my experience, they're great at listening to their sellers and really updating all of the tools that we use to make it as easy as possible, especially for brands that are bringing in a lot of orders per day or per week. It's really important that you're able to kind of do things in bulk, like a both print labels or send conversations they allow you to kind of copy and paste conversations, just little Is that really help you in your day to day work online? They listen in my opinion, but I think for anyone who had kind of a negative experience with any of their changes or algorithm changes. I think it's just really important

remember that at sea is not the only platform you have to go on and it is really important to be able to contact your customers outside of Etsy. I talked to a lot of people on Instagram and then send them over to at sea, and vice versa, like so, we as he is not the only way a people can find us, and I think that there is kind of this tree, this tendency to fall into that at sea is going to do it for you that you don't have to try because actually supposed to be putting you out there and that's just obviously a dangerous traps are falling into, because you may get a few orders that you really do have to hustle yourself and their hand come alongside you. They only want people on there that are essentially making them look good. So

Is this a mutually beneficial kind of relationship between a seller and access platform like as a corporation, you can really work in harmony together. I think it's just when people feel like at sea is not doing enough for them its important role, but that there are things you can be doing for yourself. I love that anything Natalie. You are just such a brilliant businesswoman because I think that its never good to put all your boss, calls in one core are all your eggs in one basket and not as it who business you need to market. I dont know any platform that says we will do all the marketing, for you just sit back and bring in the money, and so is such a good reminder and also to like people, hate change and a lot of times. These platforms are trying to enhance it user experience and well they get things wrong occasionally, absolutely, but at the end of the day there

trying to make that users experience so much better and it's gonna benefit eyes if weaken, just hold tight, buckle up and not be so resistance. So I love both of those. What's that you made. So one thing I want to know is: why didn't you opinion has made the painted press successful, dealing,

There are many things that you just did really you write that if somebody were just starting, if they could implement a few of these strategies, it would help them get a good start yeah. So I've talked to a lot of actually sellers are frustrated feeling like they're, not getting the results that they expected from the platform, especially as I tend to like talk about how much I love it. But what the sellers- and there is a tendency, I think- to kind of sea a trend and to kind of hop on it. I think that what made a successful from the beginning, as that it really was something, unlike anything else, if you could find on the platform and its saturated marketplace, so they're really does need to be so. Things special about you, something different that other people and offering so for someone who just feels like I don't know like they're, just not seeing the results. I would really encourage you to go on there and look at what other people in your category are doing

and make sure that there is something that such you, apart from the rest, whether that's like your gift wrapping or just your color scheme, whatever it is worrying Just you like. What is your sorry and make sure it's personal people love shopping from other people, and I think that originally, what sets us apart was this different design because I'm not going to lie. I didn't have a great about me from the very beginning I didn't like. I didn't had a lot of details, but as people started buying from me, I realize like I need to make myself a big part of this piece we need to know that when they buy from me they are literally

changing my life. She and I am so grateful to them, and I want them to feel that connection and that I only live in this house because of Etsy orders. I, like we eat dinner because of our Etsy order, so I think just making yourself stand out. Whatever way you can get creative offer something different, because people want something different is really hard to stand out when, just doing the same thing as the next ten people. I love that I set good advice, sister you're, so eloquent like for real. I wish I was as smart as you were. When I was your age, that's just say: okay, so let's talk a little bit about. A team. I know you kind of alluded to your sister, your husband, who is on your team.

May now, how did you hire them and what do they do for you in your business yeah? So my team has stayed pretty consistent, threw out. We ve had a couple. People come and go that are just helping for different seasons by everything started with the Huffington procedure. My husband quit his job and he came on as tat of the financial. Manager. He handles a lot of the customer service and he overseas all of our shipping, so he is really like the suffer I didn't want to work on. Originally, because I wanted to be in the studio, painting and creating and hanging out with my sister while she did her work, he kind of took on all of those roles and then my sister, I call her just like creative genius, she doesn't have really another title. She is constantly

innovating, constantly coming up with new designs and one thing that also set us apart with that, I would take custom orders from people, so she is painted, like name and she's, probably He put it on a joy it s. She is amazing. I just going with the flow and painting someone wanted see horses on their dishes and she did it in someone. A lot of people want mountain, like landscapes, so she is constantly taking these custom orders and making them a reality for our customers, and I think that something that she's just insanely talented she recent we created this design, where you have your bride, man's dress is in the jewelry dashed, along with their name, because it is such a beautiful thing, that's happening in things right now, we're brides are allowing their bridesmaids to choose their own dresses and so we once their bread at so she's capturing that motion forever by adding their dress and brides, will send us their pictures and shall add them into the dishes. Add the

old ram, and so now all of these bridesmaids have something personal that they can look back and remember that experience remember that Happy day, so she does all of that stuff. I also hired my brother and this girl Emily from our church, and they both do our data day like our standing ceiling. Painting of all the judicial So it's really like monotonous work. It's kind of the nitty gritty the details, but their amazing ATO, and they have both been on board for nearly three years now, and so that's the team, that's kind of like the team that stuck around the whole time and then, of course, my parents that first season were there all the time helping us I've had my friend mica, come on in me with Instagram from time to time, and so it's just than this really amazing collaborative effort and, like sometimes I call the family business because it really does feel that way like I got to spend so much time with these people who you work with uses.

Like it, it's so nice to be able to work with your family, and gets a call that your job like that has been one of my favorite things about this whole experience. I think that is so inspiring, and I also just thing to like what a blessing to have created something back in poor in other people's lives and not just your own like. Doesn't it ever just shock you like? How is this real? I'm not having kidding my brother every time he leaves he says, thanks for employing me likely is so they all recognize that this is something that is awesome and I never thought I'd see my brother he's eighteen he's graduating high school and never thought I'd, see him in their paint like little gold details on nine may a cue to buy it. Like I mean it's his mind blowing- and it's just been, like you said, the biggest blessing to be able to work with them and to be able to provide for my sister now that she's moved out it's a lot of pressure from times like, if you think about it,

but I dont dwell on that. I dwell on the fact that we actually get to do this every day, so cool. So I have request soon for you that's office scripts, but I want to know so when a lotta people start our custom work is a really great way to get your feet wet. By did not always scalable, and so why does it look like in terms of custom work, verses, work that you could make more mass quantities of? How does that kind of work, especially within at sea, business? Yeah, that's a great question: it isn't that scalable and so we ve to come to terms with our custom work being a like a longer time frame. We can't really turn around big custom jobs in three to five days. Obviously so, just being able actually just talk to my sister about this being able to say where books were

search for custom work right now or you can place an order, but it's going to be a lot longer before you get it and fortunately- and he is kind of the head of that- and so while she has her cuss orders and her more elaborate orders, I still have my team of people over here doing the stuff that is like we can without a ton of those every day. So we have to focus on both sides In its definitely for someone starting out, I would say: do the customs until it's too much and then just book a certain amount per month you're, Well, did you and get a wait? Let's get people and people really want your work, which I am sure they do. They will wait for it. It's worth the way, all the time. That's amazing aright, so, let's go into rapid fire and you ve kind of touched on some of these things, but I want to know first response. What comes

mind. When I ask you, are you ready? Yes, are: what is your favorite part about Etsy, so I think my favorite part at sea is that they are so relevant to today's market. I think conscious. Consumerism is a really big. Deal right now and everybody wants to make sure that their giving. Money to something that matters and as he has a market place where you can shop, and you can know that you're giving your money to something that matters you're, giving your money to people who are providing for their families through this income is awesome, at least favoured part about at sea. I I dont like how saturated its becoming Sometimes I feel like I've talked to some people who say

kind of like shopping at a thrift store like you have to sort through some stuff, that's not relevant to get to what you want, but I say it's like shopping at a thrift store. You find the most amazing gems there like it's worth, searching I feel like they're. So many, but one time I think, last year I sent in all of our business, starts to our local Fresno Chamber of Commerce and they poured over everything and they actually awarded me college entrepreneurs the year, and I think that was probably the proudest moment just tat just to look at all of these people who have made it made it big and they all believed in this idea like they were all supporting and applauding at thy feeling. Tat was a really cool,

bring it and applauding it. So I feel like that was a really cool, validating experience. For me, that is amazing, and if you could leave our listeners with one piece of Etsy advice, what would that be? Don't let your fears or your scepticism about this platform hold you back from trying it out and if you do try out which I hope you do. If you ve been thinking about it, I would say: have patience, nothing happens over and I give it your all and definitely seek out community seek out people who on the platform who have experienced selling. I'm always here to answer questions. I try to answer them over the painted press, the M and email. I think it's just really important to seek out community because we love to support each other. On that platform, you are so amazing I just want a bottle you up like how in

you guys, ok, so where can everybody find you and connect with you, Natalie, okay, so my personal instagram, which is a little just it's a bit more like behind the scenes. My do talk about work. There. It's just my full name: it's Natalie future on Instagram and then our business Instagram is the painted press and you can find is there and you can connect with us. There were on that platform every single day. Where can we shop all your goodies, hello? We need about it. Ok, so if you search at sea search the painted press research, jewelry dash- or you know it's there anything, that's relevant to our categories, but its W W w dot the painted press die at sea, dot, com, maize, thing, Thank you so much for not just being a guest today, but for being a listener Natalie. I am so thankful you reached out and tackled one of the biggest topics that we ve been wanting to have on our show. I am seriously so excited to be here. I feel like this conversation with us.

And I cannot wait to hear it wholly. Is anyone else inspired by how amazing Natalie is, I feel like I could talk to her for days. She is just so inspiring and so ray of sunshine and she broke down at sea, so stinkin. Well, also, if you are thinking about it or you're, just kind of contemplating listen to her and look at her success. It has been really fun to study the way that she uses a platform in the way that she connects with people online, see how she does business and man if all of us had started when Natalie started. Imagine where we could be so Wait any longer don't make up anymore excuses if today is a day that you need to go started. Do it at sea could be an incredible place for you to build the business of your dreams, just like Natalie dead. Until next, I'm gold diggers keep on digging your biggest schools and a giant

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