You're. Listening to the gold digger vodkas episode number two hundred and five ever since March, whence came on the scene, we have seen them gradually overtake our culture. They become a constant presence in both our professional and our personal wives. However, this Constant sensory overload and overwhelm of information makes our thoughts scattered, impacts our feelings and also the late shapes our lives today, I am so excited to talk about how I have been personally working on, I the screen, addiction and five tips that you can take away to day to disconnect a little bit with your phone and reconnect with life, we do have on Anti today show and want to read the review of the week. This review comes from a our health and it says great well rounded advice for small businesses so happy I found generous podcast love how she takes abstract scary concepts. I'm looking at you marketing

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the amount of screen time per day, regardless of what the content is goes hand in hand with higher instances of depression. I mean all is crazy. I've heard a start that, like the average person, opens up instrument fifty eight times a day, fifty eight times a day with all this usage, it's easy to us that phones are impacting our productivity and as a businesswoman. I want my work to be focused intention and not scattered diverting, engine from one app to the? Next I mean Guys- let's be honest. Humming view have found yourself where you're clicking from Facebook and then the Instagram and then your refreshing, your email and then your backup, Facebook and then you're back at Instagram. You like what I'm doing like, when did we get so bored it's insane now not only from a business perspective but like a life perspective,

my life to be present in focused intentional, and something tells me that you might want that to like. I really want to live, not refresh my view, every few minutes and walls. Totally great. I understand how difficult it can be to break our phone in screen habits, which is exam Actually why I wanted to make this episode full of tangible tips, tricks and methods, going to ensure that you can put your phone down and keep your eyes up now. Let's thing about, How things have changed? I mean I remember when I got my first cell phone. It was when I turned sixteen. It was one of those cool Nokia ones with a snake game. Anyone else anyone else. I may be aging myself but I remember how you had to pay like ten cents per text. Message beg my mom and like give her my dollar miles from my allowance that a good text, my friends and Remember the days of dial up, and I mean just everything- has changed so much

our days. It's like our phones are like an extension of our body, as argue doctor the other day. They were saying that people's necks are suffering so, from looking down at their screens like it's just crazy? as we all know that were doing it, and yet we dont really stop Phone usage is everywhere, like we ve all been there that moment of free time, where we instantly just reach far phone, not even thinking about it movie, Joe all even realize it. But one day deleted a few apps on my phone to reduce my usage, and I realize my thumb would automatically move to click that up even when it didn't exist. There like that is showing how much of a creature of habits we become with our phones. How the hell did it get like this, like do you ever have this thing in your like? How do we get to this point like where did we go wrong like

increasingly since smartphones have released so have their capabilities, and so, while cell phones used before? Like you know, calling people they have become this vessel for take, photos and answering emails and navigation systems recording devices, business tools. The list goes on and on with the increased phone capabilities that have evolved rapidly, It is no wonder that we have become more dependent as the years gone, as our phone features increase so does are dependent. On them the other day I was on a plane, and I was laughing because you know when the flight is in itself Ok guys, you can use your bones, but they have to be an airplane mode, You can just see everyone frantically refreshing their feeds pulling up there No one, last time sending out that last text message like they can't believe they're about. To be in the air without wifi like you, would think that it was worse than getting your teeth.

Old, and I laugh because we all do this. It's like this. Dependency, where we freak out like what's gonna happen, if I'm off my phone for the next two hours and it it have all of us and when I read things on social media. When I talk to you guys in person in and when I think about, I really want from my own life, it's more presence, and yet my phone right now it's within reach and chances are years is too maybe your listening on it right now and so what is the issue like? We use our smartphones more and so what's the big deal but actually are found you search impacts as on an emotional, a mental and physical level emotionally, like constantly being connected by a social media shown to increase comparison. Anyone Issues confidence Where is your hand and increased field?

of loneliness like we have never been able to be so connecting get disconnected at the same time it impacts mentally from a man. SAM Point, constantly has a feeling attached to them. Ices and that's been correlated with being less productive with having shorter attention span and feeling less present in day to day life and then physically many people don't think that strange impact, our physical star, Yes, but smartphones have been shown to negatively impact or sleep potential. Negatively impact our thumbs, that's weird from typing in scrolling and constantly exposing us too. You know those awful blue lights someone a blue blockers out there, those sweet glasses that block those blue lights. So, let's talk about how do we take steps towards a healthier relationship with screens like this, is not a cold. Turkey challenge

so much as a day to day life and businesslike. We have to figure out what their screen relationship gonna, look like, and I don't want it to be filed under complicated, and so I have five tips that I to help you you, so that you can transform your relationship with screens for good. Just me, This is something we have been working on, sometimes successfully, sometimes not so successfully. But Think we should just be all in on this together, none one has been an absolute game changer. If we stick to this, do not sleep with a phone in your room. Rule number one most important sleep is the absolute foundation. Never health and if we are interrupted those precious hours of sleep by staying a blade, scrolling or even worse, scrolling first thing in the morning you are doing now favours to your sleep habits and subsequent mode, your mental and physical attacks, but yet

It's my alarm clock like if you rely on your phone Verne alarm clock. Something tells me that, instead of turning off when it makes you up, you go down grab a whole of checking all your messages. Opening every social media ends. Looking at your inbox before your feet even hit the ground like, while it is tempting to check in what happen overnight? You know, while you were doing this thing, called sleeping taking your phone out of your bedroom is going to help you be more productive and is going to increase your overall wellness. Now drew- and I started doing this when we moved in- we actually started at our old house, but we got really serious about it. When we moved and so when dinner time heads we plug your phones in in the kitchen which is downstairs. Our bedroom is upstairs and we allow ourselves to check our funds. One spoke for bad and then we go to bed and we bought you guys. You can buy in alarm clock on Amazon for like

ten dollars. So we have an actual alarm clock that we don't usually use. That's all my night sand and it is the so amazing. Just Howard day starts so differently when we're not bow, laying in bad side by side scrolling on her phone psych givers stopped yourself in your on your phone and you look at the person s you and your like. I'm basically telling you that these strangers on the internet are more important than you are that's what we're doing and so when we started charging. Our phones and our bedrooms like true, is a little upset with me. But I was I we're gonna stick to this, but it is so nice away that we go to bed in the way that we wake up is so incredibly Dufresne an age starts our day off connected instead of being disconnected. I mean there's something about just laying about a few extra minutes. While you wake up and think about things, you're thankful for, like

lately, I've been trying to just spend ten minutes. Embed no phones, snuggling patting the pubs and practising gratitude like It helps me start my days so much less frantic in the mornings and I feel this of like thankfulness, enjoy and not dried about what I need to do for the day. What would your life look like if you took an extra ten twenty, maybe even thirty minutes, to end your day and start your day right like? What would that look like for you? For me, I read before I go to sleep, and so, instead of looking at my screen, I'm reading a book for fine I'm reading a devotional arm readings, meaning that centres me said reading about everyone else's lives, unlike let mean pour into myself a little bit and if you can make these tweet, since then a little time reflecting and stretching a moving prioritizing you're gonna feel more focused, more exciting, it more grounded as you enter

your day like these tiny little tweaks european can make a huge difference. There is a citizen I don't remember exactly what it has some just take it from me. Ok, but when we opened our phones first thing and we check our email first thing in the morning are efficiency levels decrease dramatically. Why? Because now We are planning our days around what everyone else needs from us like. Basically, our day is now to put out the fires that have been set. In our inbox overnight, but if we can create, before we consume, and I know we ve talked about this on the show, and I know it is really hard to do, but if we can start figuring out what am I going to create today, what do I need to get done today before I serve any one else, because smell, you're, gonna be serving more people. Have you can focus on those things that you really gotta get dine and

I got really good for a while, and I need to get back into it, like full disclosure guys. I totally struggle with this too, but for a while I would not oh, anything on my phone until after ten a m- and I can tell you, you that my mental psyche was so much better. It was after a second miscarriage and where I was working through a lot of personal things. Am I, actor was like you know like what would it look like if you just get up and you go on a walk and he don't check your phone and you figure out like here's my game plan for the day and it really did work, and I need to get back into that because I just remind feeling lighter- and I felt like I had a plan for the day and I felt excited- and I think a lot of times entrepreneurs we base our days around what everyone needs of us and then we finish a day and were like what did I even get done, though, if we could just kind of risk

train ourselves, starting from the moment we wake up, it could be huge, numbered, see, is shutting off at seven p m at night. I know you guys are probably like a year I girlfriend, but they skin make a huge difference, evening can be such a precious time. I don't know about you, but this is. Time when drew nigh. Actually together were not working, may be of children or friends are loved ones or even just. Time to like recharge by yourself, fellow introvert, unite right and do we want to fill that time with mindless scrolling, like no thing of all all the other things you could do, that would actually fill your cup instead of deplete you instead, maybe it's baking or only movie, nigh or reading that given meaning to finish four years or writing a note to a loved one or writing in a german taking time to go after that. To do

as has been weighing on you like? What would it look like if we set our phones down and we actually took time for ourselves like I get it? Our screens are basically like this extra limit point, but I promise you that once you get over that initial discomfort of having your screens on you, twenty four seven you'll instantly lighter and more connected to the real life magic happening all around you am. I right We had a retreat with about a hundred and twenty women. I was a keynote speaker and when I go to things like that. I just leave my phone and it's so funny, because I'll, be travelling else, a texture and also here safely, I'm gonna be a little bit offline. Just want you know. I love you and I sit no so funny, because I would be talking to people and they d, like we're gonna bills on a good without my phone, like others feel so weird. I don't have any service I'm freaking out and I'm like I just also free, and I think that if we don't get

The initial uncomfortable news, we're never gonna get to that free feeling. Like for any runners out there. You all know like the first mile, sucks right in your like, dying, I need water. Somebody's gonna have to pick me up on the side of the road and then, when you push through any keep going, it's easy arm same thing. The screen. And so what we try to do is, at the end of the day, We really try at dinner time only go away. We ve already been on them all day with work and just having them connected. Do as it is time to disconnect, and I really feel like when it comes to relationships and helps us to focus more like we are way more conversations during those hours together. I read books fine. I appreciate my snugly little dogs in and thinking of when we have a child like what that will look like, I read We do want to have boundaries like I don't wanna have my kid seeing my phone

in bringing it over to me because I think it needs to be attached to my hand, the opposite. We, the errand mock on my show, was one of my favorites. And she told me how she would put our phone in the drawer during the name and lay out I bought where usually was ended when she felt herself being drawn over to where phone was. Instead, she would do and better with their time so may be Bible for you. Maybe something totally different budget is reminder of refocusing recent during it asking yourself like is now a good time, and for me the seven p m. It's not a good time number three! is this, then you have to trust me on it. Ok, no, email on your phone like this one is here: would you guys know one in the world needs to be reachable. Twenty four seven like. I really believe that there, a God a chance that nobody needs you in this exact moment, as if the tax measures

is in the phone calls warrant enough. Why on earth do we need constant dings and vibrations, and notifications telling us that we ve got another email, especially when, like most of it is junk? often times most emails are not urgent whatsoever. So why take opportunity to sit there on your phone and look at it or have to log, in to delete it or apply to it between spamming business matters and personal lives, I would say that less than two percent of your emails are actually urgent and if you're thinking Well. What if somebody needs me? I promise you if it truly an emergency, I'm pretty sure people could reach you the phone call or tax message or getting in touch or someone else take this as permission that you, my friend, do not need to be one hundred per cent reachable every moment now every email needs a response. Not every call has to be taken, be selective with your screen times. And less time responding to emails more time.

Acting with your favorite people or yourself in real time like life, is happening right now, right, This moment that you are hearing my voice, it is happening in Does not have to be along for the ride twenty four seven This is something I seriously believe in wine, because we're not very efficient when it comes to responding to emails. On our phones, like I can type I attend I'm faster on my computer and with less errors then on my phone, but also when we are getting notified of new emails, dropping in its constantly pulling our Finch from what we're doing whether we're doing other work, whether we're trying to be present, They were working on our relationship whatever that is and is Oh, I don't even have the Gmail app on my phone and I do my best, not even log in on my phone, because wine, I just red things and then in Markham and ride so creating double the work. Does anyone else do that? But two?

like I said earlier. Email has this way of dictating what our day is going to look like in so instead of actually tackling our biggest priorities were tackling other people's big priorities, and so I have created a system in my business so that I don't even see emails and tell my team is read them gone through them approved. Them and then assign them to me so, like you, gotta get through like five gates even get into my inbox, and at that point that is where I take over, and so Nobody needs you in this moment, chances are so slam that anyone needs to reach you via email on your phone and so on just encourage you to set aside time each day, maybe set aside one hour around lunchtime where you go through your entire embarks, not get out, get it back zero and then log on out- and maybe you come on again once before you sign off for the day. But if you

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this is sound. Diva should all, but I am super careful about who I gave my phone number two not because I am, I too good for people, the handed our anything of that nature, but because I want its view of people, to be able to reach me as possible, like I want my phone to be a vessel to contact me, withdrew my family and my actual friends like not people I met in passing, who taxi later and say have a favor. I have a question for you, and so this goes, for everything in your life like be protective of your own boundaries of Europe. Constantly saying yes to things that don't really feel rye or things that you don't want to do, or your handing out your phone number to people that you don't necessarily want to connect with like. What's the point we're gonna be, totally honest right now. I have ninety unread text messages on my phone. I voted. Screen, I may Instagram sorry the other day and like so many people were like freaking out for me and the

truth is that I hate texting. Getting. The biggest waste of time voice. Ex me, so I can hear your voice and we can communicate with Astor. Give me a call, even though I can he talking on the phone or like, let's just connect I have gotten so protective of my phone number. I've wanted to change my phone number for years, because it's a phone number of had forever and I think that what happens? Is people have this direction line to you and then you feel, like you have to respond in an I do my best to respond but chances are like I'm working. My head is down. I'm I'm not free all data text all day and so a lot of times. I just I suck at it and so now, a days like I do not give out, phone number and tell it, is absolutely necessary, even worse

it's my wedding clients when I was photographer. They didn't get my phone number until the week before the wedding, because they did need to have it until that point, but I just want to protect that. I want to protect myself from me suggests that come at times that will pull me out of my life and pull me back into work, and so it can be where'd, you get it and I am not a phone number, but I say like hey: if you really want to get in touch me reach out to my email, because my team will make sure I get back to you and then now you're, not blowing people off, but you're still protecting that ten digit number you know like this is a time these sad that can make a huge impact. I was recently talking to a girl. Those are my mastermind and she said, number. One thing I want to learn from: you is boundaries because you have the best boundaries out of any one, have ever met kind of laughed, because I tend to be a little bit more clothes off in terms of protecting myself, but over the last few

here's, especially with our fertility journey and is everything going on. I realized so intimately that I have a very limited amount of energy if I don't really want to impact the world like. If I really want to make a difference, I have to protect that energy big time. I got to protect the way that I'm letting people influence that I'm letting people get in touch with me for communicating with me, because I know as somebody who loves what she does like, I can get sucked in just like everyone else, and so I really want to create. If I really want to create the things that will change the world, then I have to protect that energy into me, that looks like boundaries and to me that also exciting, not giving up. My phone number very often number five is as says yourself, what am my last hips is see how bad your phone addiction actually is

I have used the at moments almost daily to assess where I met in terms of phone usage, a basically just tracks, how many hours a day, you're on your phone and rates, you green, yellow or red, based on how many hours you're spending on and yes, ours is not crazy and I'm just shocked at what I see moment. Isn't that- and I always happened automatically just tracks, how much use your phone in your ipad each day and if you're, using your phone too much you can set daily limits on yourself a mean notified when you're about to go over. You can even force self off your device when you're over your limit and soldiers, really cool way to kind of Czech yourself over Iraq yourselves, but also measures all sorts of Just zigzagging show how often you are truly using your phone, how often you're picking in opening, and I honestly think the results could astound. You it opened my eyes to see how easy it is to just pick up my phone.

There is a moment of boredom or downtime like Yanks. Sometimes you just need a little dose reality to create change, and I can definitely say that tracking my phone usage has changed. My room asian ship with my phone for the better like it's almost this daily challenge, to use it less and less and less every single day. In their day is where I look at how many times I picked it up. In my whole life cow like what was going on. Did I felt happy about myself? Was I avoiding work? Was I Sue invested in some thing to go down. The road the hall in so I've been true? to really just analyze like Why am I picking it up at my board side. Looking for affirmation do I need that dopamine head? What does that look like and so I think it's a really important to assess yourself in to drag. Your loved ones, if you're really struggling with there's like drew- and I will argues them

I'm gonna make babe get off your phone. These occur on your phone all day and then I'm like I was working and we. Really trying to help each other how boundaries. So we have rules like no cell phones on date night. So our phones going the Glove box when we got dinners when they we really try to leave our phones behind and just how kind of whole each other account of all, because We both know that weaken totally falls short in this area in its kind of like this thing, where were you one verse index of their phone, then the other one feels again. Permission to do that, and so we have to work together as a team. So number five suit yourself? I get really honest. How're you doing What's going on in your life, how're you mentally doing a car you feeling about yourself. Are you feeling grades film? Less then, What does your usage look like in and how much worth are you putting your phone and what it tells you on your world? We have to take back control,

you are in control of the way Is it the weight that you give it of its? Bela to derail you or make you feel good and so assess yourself before your wreck yourself. I say here I ten extra quick attempts. Now that you have my five main tabs to ensure that your phone is used for good and that you're gonna work on reducing your screen time. Every day we are inferred treat right by those are my best go to here's some extra tips tricks and Accidents sure that you are using your phone less and less everyday, most of which require, being is self aware and actively changing habits that encourage less screen time number one nurture other interests like invest in your Hobbes as passions continued lobbying real life interest in scales. Dont use. Your phone is like a reward reward yourself with some

on? Fire numbered to communicate if you want to make an effort to use less screen time be open with your spouse or your friends or your team, and tell them how, with your friends or your team and tell them how to best reach you, what your boundaries are and what that's gonna look like, There are three an easy way to reduce phone usage is to keep your phone out of sight like. It is amazing how much the out of sight out of mind saying applies to phone usage drew, and I used to each other's bones in the house, and not tell each other where we put em just so that we would get off them Sophie need to play a little game of hide and seek. I jenna Kutcher encourage it also just turning off notifications as one of the easiest ways to reduce your use your phone buzzes, it's more easy for you to pick it up and use it or to feel a sense of urgency, and so I you know I've notifications on for any acts like none of them, so you can check on when you feel like it, but you know

Jack, I'm all the time when something drops in maybe number five: you can delete some of your apps like every so up Can I delete some of my most use apps, just like as a little reset, and also usually because I'm running on a storage on my phone? Let's be honest, but it's amazing. How much is clarifies in terms of how often you are actually logging into things that you said you weren't going to numbers, Six identify your phone, it triggers. Is there anything in particular that keeps you reaching? for your phone pay attention. Dennis. I, these small moments create actions in place. That will result in less phone usage. I have this awful habit where, if can't, remember something I'll, just quit. Google. I am like I'm not even also like use. Memory anymore inside, a challenge myself to wait. Ten minutes before a Google anything hoping that my brain while actually remember how to kick it kind of sad right number seven make conscious efforts to interact

people in person rather than via your phone meat for coffee or dinner, and Let face timing. Things like and when you are at events or coffee dates or dinner dates which your phone I put it away, don't even bring it in don't even bring it in when I hear to go out to dinner with my girlfriends. I would bring in my purse and I make everyone for their phones in it, because it was so easy for us to all. At the same table and scroll, and so you have? you really. Let people know that they are your priority. Number eight. Do not users, smart phone as a wall, they give you find it easier, communicate through messaging or social media to vent online, you gotta do so in our work like what's going on in your world, that that is the case like I am an introvert through and through through and through and someday at my phone, like feels like a way to break off from reality, if I'm feeling

overwhelmed her over stimulated, but I have to figure out like how can I take care of myself and set boundaries that protect I, while also not just relying on a screen to distract me number nine turn off your phone or put it out of sight placing your phone in a drawer at work or leaving it in another room or charging it somewhere else can help reduce the anxiety of wanting to check it number ten notice, your boredom, like Austin Heinz Android laying on the couch looking at her phone. We could be doing so. Much more productive and fulfilling in so figure out like where is it you're wasting time and use at times you go on a war or a big some cookies or look at old photo albums like change things? Lastly, before design? I just want to encourage you because eyes and entrepreneurs changes are you really struggle with phone use and

wanna just share a story in closing about how that's really changed. Specifically for me and my team, when I first started building a team, we relied heavily on text messages like heavily, and so every morning our text Caitlin, we would voice tax about what was going to happen for the day during launches we were texting at ten p m at night with my team again yell and we were always constantly reachable. We really do not have good boundaries. And I don't even know if this episode sponsor by slack but whatever we use slack like we genuinely use it every single day and it has changed the game for the way that we do business. Basically, a kind of work like an AOL, instant messenger system by war they does, is it creates boundary is so I can see when my team is online. I can leave messages for them to get when they log back in and we can communicate their so there,

the zero taxing that happens within my team without asking for permission is not crazy. So now, I have something like this morning. I gave Caitlin a call. I met The John Slack inside here are you free. If you are, let me know I'd love to give you call the chat through something, but it has freed all. Of us up so much more mentally to know that nothing is really urgent. We don't have the available at all hours. We're not getting tax up, pull us back into work when we're trying to be present, and so slack has been just really huge for us and it really Has the game in the way we communicate in the way that we actually have boundaries that respect our life and our work there you guys go goaldiggers, you have no excuse. I have equipped you as well as I can. This episode

the impact with little tips and tricks and hacks that you can implemented day in order to balance your relationship with technology like life is full of choices, and I think that day is a perfect day to choose to invest less in screen time. More in real life like what do you say? What are your friend our family members or even your spouse could use a message like this episode. Why don't you take a say and just share with them in mean so much to me and together little by little. We can all fight back on the screen obsession and get back to the real life magic. Until next time. Gold diggers keep on digging your biggest goals, and I know I know you're, probably listening on your phone, so thank you. Virtue indeed the show, but I hope you sign on off and get back to your life now thanks for listening to the gold, digger podcast

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