Year. Listening to the gold digger podcast episode number three hundred and seventeen. How is it at the year that I worked so least fear that I spent more time with my daughter in my lap, the my laptop became my biggest year. Yet as I look back on his full year as a mom in a c o. The fears I had about mother at changing my business seem almost silly. I mean you guys. I had an entire episode about reasons, wires, afraid to become a mom. My business, it did change like the way I work and priorities my time changed you, but not. Equally in the ways that I feared or expected, no, you boys me reference. The mom club, a timer to this year in really is just an unseemly long text read with two of my friends, Ashley Carter and Sarah Adler. You may recognize their names because they have both been on the show before and we all connected My mastermind last year it navigating a year of pregnancies together, we started

tax right as we near Nardoo Dates and he's been and on his lifeline this past year, as we'd navigated, this new season of life with babies all being born one week apart, we envoys notes every single week to check in talk about the struggles and the triumphs chap business and really just connect. We call them are many podcast, because we all tend to be a bit long winded. We talking about our business the other day, and it turns out that we all experienced are best business year. Yet the same year that we were navigating sleep cycles in nursing and babies? First called. We also expect hence our best year in business. This episode is like a peak into my group chat with these women. I wanted to have them on the show to get to talk about motherhood and business and we kind of analyze ourselves and how we ve adapted and shifted, and let go of things this year too. Welcome in a new season of our lives and businesses. I only wish I had had an episode like this, when I was navigating the fear of becoming a mom. Now I want to

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Other as three women who were about to be minds and who were entrepreneurs, and we just started attacks thread that then got named the mom club, which in fact has become our podcast episodes for thee or because we cannot listen anything over like two minutes. I think we founded brush on so much. You start. Sarah kind of walk us through just a short version of what this year has look like. It reduces to your little boy and kind of give us a glance at what life has been like in the past. Yeah I've loved you so so on a visit of simply real health- and I hope, a busy women in all different seasons and all different ribbons and their life take her out how to live more intentionally so eating real food, keeping it simple. Five ingredients are last twenty minutes or less, and this year baby. No. I was born in December and I

You know I always just so curious as to how things were going to actually play out. I think I had a lot of terrorism I think all of us are three AMOS dead before becoming a mom, especially because we just love our work. So much, and so it's been a really, how would you like a huge here of growth, and so many just like surprises and delights along the way to so. It's been all of those things at all those things at once, and you also berthed another be this year, which, as yet, and so it is my understanding should now. I know it's our money, we always say immunology like a book is like a baby and now that I've done both am I met with pretty magistrate like. There is definitely a strong analogy, thereby reason, Syria, my second. What comes out November twenty nineteen. So it's gonna We owe it to my soon in found the out when you guys are listening to us. So throughout the process of you now

being pregnant being really secretaries, pray man like for almost six months at a time I was right back in the middle of clockwork production and so that process inside of becoming amounts for the first time and becoming a book mom for the second time, there's been a lot going on over here and totally forgot about how you're so sick, so Snake What went out Ok, I should give us a little synopsis of you and your sweet baby boy. Clearly, based answer in trail. I do not bring the same sort of skill said to the MOM Club text, in that I cannot tell anybody why they should put in their childs body crew, the same business call Ashland AIDS and I'm a copywriter in brain strategies for feed munch foreigners. So I come alongside people and help the Enigma many with their words and actually Youtube is your clients that just hit me

yeah. So I never get into like our Panama stories and it's just so beautiful how all three or net together and that we had very different approaches and liking journeys through pregnancy and everything, but all that to say tat. I got here within sixty days of the same time that you had your It is in that way as December twenty eighteen, his name's John Thomas, we could just on tat, and he s got a cute is in the happiest ITALY I'm playing that that little happy dispositions snakes, because it I mean I'd. I look for an everyday, getting off work and going to grab him Ok, you because I think that you about a year ago, exactly it Ashton was given as all the four one one she went in labour and we had our tax thoroughgoing we're talking about all the weird things I have near body before you going to labour in placing Batman who would go further and Ashland had

may first, and so we were asking her every question under the sun, so aren't tax thread if people good Rita, I mean we should get it ran described, I won't horrified at the village. Let's start, we get me started before labour Oh yeah yeah, So we started- and I was just because we were all do around the same time and we are all can and navigate and similar things in it. Then insane, because I feel like literally every day. I think I refer once the quote mom club in its own, so exclusive, but really if you can find any women that are going through. The more phase of life, whether its child rearing days or not, but it's been like lifeline over the last year in just having people that are at the same phase of the gene, because I was thinking about it a lot and I make it would

work with somebody that further along the name, because I would always like the dumb one or the one that should know these things with bad mom, that I don't know the answers, and so it's cool. Have been just serendipitous how we connected in the mastermind, navigated, pregnancy and now navigated, mom life. So I am. I first question for Eu Sarah evening at their earth, No, I know that we all share the lot of fears that I think will probably all say a man to the things you're about to say by walking through similar where's that you had about becoming a mom and then what like actually came from. Those fears are what came true when you did have Noah AIR soldier. I mean I had so many Ferris, like almost to the point where I feel like I kept pushing wake pregnancy and pushing out the conversation of having a family, even though that something that I wanted so so large, a just always felt like not quite the right time, because I

so many of these fears so like even in the process of thinking about sit down. I myself and say I got what are my actual fear as like writing them down and then taking a second look like ok. What can I either do about that to make it better or prevented, or is there something? That's not actually a real fear? You know like underside of making it a bigger deal than it really is so for me like, because any business is all about like eating well in taking care of yourself and as a coach to when I'm coaching people like so much of what I felt like was shows what I saw. Lake was mine, Jews, and my special thing was that I got all of my ideas as for work all my energy for work, all the clarity from the access

taking care of myself so like working out every day and like eating really well and having time to prepare food and meals like I felt I thought was part of my secret sauce for creating the types of content and for helping people in the ways I do so. I was really really scared for not having time forest my own self care and what that will do. You my talent almost like for work. I really thought that was like the second thing that was he enjoyed connected and then the second thing for me was just freedom like the one of the reasons why I started a business in the first place is that I want more freedom in my life, so like freedom of schedule, freedom, like travelling freedom of white. Now I get to do what I wanna do with my time. That's one of the perks and when the reasons why I'm such a good entrepreneur is like that is so motivating to me, and so I was terrified that family baby from what I had heard and the last one of my friends to have kids, and so I had all of these. I almost was carrying other people's stories with

Unlike the having that is like a burden of like oil, everyone says this. Everyone says that, and ultimately I kind of came to this place awake. You know those are other people's experiences and I can create the that I want this to be. You know like there is probably a million other solutions. If there's things I'm scared of like freed, I'm ok. What ways could I insure that? I still get some of those things and, like you figure it, I think one thing then the most surprised I will talk more about this, but one of the things that I've been them surprised by this year is like, like all running. A business has actually taught me so much about like made. The transition to mother had so much easier because, when you're used to running a business, you're used to coming up with, like all of your own fears in your own, limiting believes in your own blocks like being on bananas, is just about getting over all the

things all the time you know so I feel like that scale as something that just totally helped, and nobody really told me that they, like nobody, talks about the part of it. So those are two things for me in the software and the and the freedom and the meaning while the lake. Ok, what can I do about these things are actually solvable. Yes, Ashland one more year, fear because you come from a different background to with body imagine, and so many other other layers too, sure yeah. So my background of shared it Ensign capacities online that my report from eating disorders when in a partial, hospitalization and twenty fifteen, and so we like started that was it first you're my marriage to you, so we started out like climbing the hill battle. It was really as a whole.

The first year of marriages. Are we just under this really sweet spot with our marriage and really enjoying it, and my business was going well. It had just getting started the same here that I recovered vigour, twenty sixteen, so that I just was, I was so afraid like bring something else into the mix, unlike shake up this sweet spot that we had. So that was part of my feet: yours and I think I had this inaccurate picture in my mind. I wanted my businesslike spinning, like a top before we had kids, I don't know what that net or is ever going to happen now, but in my mouth and it was just gonna, be like all the funnels all their systems. Like everything just clicking along and I can walk away from it and we will get into that totally happen in some capacities that I don't know what I was looking when this egg, I know it is utopian moment and my business. Where am I I'm ready to have a baby, and so I think that between them is to expectations that I had for myself, those rock and other things that were holding me badge from

started starting a family. I knew I love and Eve had means you re on their podcast reformer, and I remember asking her some of these fears at a conference I was speaking out and she had said she's like you. I was similar. I knew I wanted green kids one day again, pictured myself is big, feebly and green kid and their role as the common denominator. The thing that could happen between then and now is involved and you're gonna build. Thank you no figure this out and that's kind of a position that I can you. I wanted to be a man, but I don't get Everley pictured how and when it will happen. So that's the place that I found myself in a kind of fears that were playing and takes in my mind. I love that, and I think, there's also this fear of like I'm at the peak of my career. Am I gonna like shorten my six sites or, like I felt like I was like like a virus, I just get my stride and then it's like. Oh my gosh, like what

am I thinking like. I didn't want people to look at me and be a like. Oh, she could invent something great, but I told you so true how funny and it's like so listen to, because I feel like a lot of the fears, I think one my most irrational fears. Looking back was that I would have a child and I would look back at all the hours in the amount of work that I had done and realise how insignificant was like. I was not prepared for the work that I had put my leg life's work into to feel insignificant to a child, and I knew that that could happen in its actually funny, because that didn't happen. It almost gave my work. More purpose up at areas will talk about that, so we all had kind of different like transitional periods. We actually all had similar issue births and birth store yeah, but then we kind of navigated out of that post pardon season in

front way is, and so I went to first is talk about like what was your biggest struggle this year as working mom and don't worry we'll get to the good stuff by what was something that you just couldn't have been prepared for or that caught you off Guard Sarah was years yeah. So for me, I have. This great set up where my mom has been like helping mostly with child care, and I think especially, the dining with the cookbook. So I basic everything for the book was a week before you know I was born, and so then about four weeks pose pirate an I got the call that it was time to go into them I got the call that it was time to go into the rounds of editing and

I really wasn't private planning to take like two or three months off, as, like my you know, could include maternity leave bash. I had already signed this contract and I didn't want to push the publication out any further than the orange was, and so my mom kind of came flying into the rescue of like helping and coming over multiple days a week, if not every day, so that I could like set and at it you know for one hour chance the time to our chunks at a time, and that has been like the biggest blessing of my life. I also think wake the same sentence that the biggest startle for me, I think, has just then my in working from home. The transitions between like I almost feel like. I have two lives, times like I'm sitting at my computer, I'm running a team, I'm running a business, I'm executing things, I'm like managing all these components like to the cook to my business are running programs like doing all these.

Things and I'm kind of in new ways. Now I'm like labour into the wheel, but like I'm in my masculine energy, which is like a driven and efficient. Unlike me out just getting things done and then one hearts again to relay Ray the baby's trying right, changing nurse and then being like ok and life. Soft, the sweet and we were drowned rising we as unlike, and so it's like- certainly switching of hearts and anything just I'm used to that in some essences cause, that's part of being an entrepreneur by searching back and forth, certainly winning from home like work. No, it's ok to now here in Europe

if mouthed or a relationship moan and like you have to be able to tap back and forth, but I think becoming a man like that tapping backing, for it was the multiple times a day like war than ever, and I just was wanting to be so present in both that I found myself having to do that without any transition time in the middle, and I was used to that sort of transition. Time like okay, now we're going into this knowledge now going into this note or I'd have bigger chunks of the day, and so that, for me, is just can awake never knew really how to expect that a gas, and he has been heard I put a lot of pressure and myself and gets to be really present, no matter where I am and wanting to get my only manner matter when I'm doing and so yeah that's her is just like interesting I'm still figuring it out. To be honest, I think nursing, and you're gonna, like we'll talk to others for a nursing, is like the cause. They

It took me a long time to be able to do it, and I had issues affect milk supply and on the staff coming in, and I want to do it, but then it's also like this thing that it makes the schedule so choppy your time is always divided and you are needed really to do it and make it happen here, and I think you know it. Fingers interesting when you're saying that people kind of freak you out, because I have Well, when you return you like this desire to be president, I feel that so strongly, but it's also not always possible, and I think people freak you out because they say. Oh, my gosh goes way so fast. He goes way so fast and I will find solving moments. Where am I am I being present enough? Am I looking every individual eyelash. Do. I see my sweet little more important like and I like, where it's almost like you're like freaked out like am I being present enough, and it's like honestly eyes currently only feeds on one side now, probably because I've had to be

and my phone still working fine about it. No, I have a job and its will and it's like Good? I always division into me, nursing and like just staring out my baby, aiming so in love, and I like that is my reality. When I'm not working, but when she's crying at one p m- and I have a team on slack messaging me- and I need to get back to them- guess what I am only and I'm not fully present in. That's you, sir reality of it. Yet you know I can't really

Currently internet abuse Cooper boom. It's for media thing has, if anybody semicolon it I'd appreciate, it does need to be told us that things like don't forget that last time you know that last bedtime story red or that. Lastly, you know what I'm saying they all got like smoking. Every man suddenly like somebody when you were in giving a guy's about being anxious about missing the moment so yeah. I hardly know what you're saying to myself any we ve never talk more about that. That's like yeah, so it really is being being able shrug wrong. Guy is so I mean clearly it's an entrepreneur thing because a lot of what serious thing a case for me back so Murray and fills. We are this year, like a conception story online, mind here, we go well so how I think My heart had just come around the idea of having kids like I was just. I had a free

and she when she told me that she was pregnant. My first reaction was well. I'm glad. That's not me. I knew like inside. That was my reaction. I knew that, like my heart was a little hardened and needed some prayer and so a couple of friends. My mom, like at least, are like glass desires, a family. I desire Emily like something needs to kind of change in me. So right about the time like I enjoy, come around the idea like ok, let's try and one- and I like that, and we got pregnant and so alive. My progress was wrestling with like Lord This was not like. This is not my plan. This is going way too far, This is a most ball rolling down the hill. So a lot of my pregnancy I'd feel eight months have all their different ways that they now asked a lot of the waves the eyewitness did was in preparing a businesslike. That nursery was not set up like a head to toe ready to go the day. That tat was delivered bet. My business was ready because I knew where to walk away from three months to be with him and so like that was like a kind of work

her evening in to this site turn any leave so excellently they take actions or like struggles at first were just links here said I dont think I quite realise how slow of a processor I am and like how much time required a just like seeing in red. And need white space to journal and pray and, like all of a sudden being a mom. It's your time, splits in it split beautifully, but all the same it split you don't have the same reasons that you have that like easier, What are you said like that's your secret sauce, and yet we ve never talked about this, but, like I think I thought cinema secrecy, comes from my like, create these rhythms and like move three than an that's kind of how I can feel my business, because I'm falling into my as a well and then I can pour out my clients and customers in community law as the biggest struggle. I think at first was realizing like ok, I'm Tellin ya get these two

hours every single morning to yourself now like this is it looks a little bit different now its system of that lack of autonomy was definitely the biggest struggle coming out at the gate. I think mine is like a mix of ear to wear think line I like went in and such an all or nothing person in so I was like dead said on having three months off then I had calmly and she slept all the time, and I was so bored and I was like way like I wanna take my maternity leave when she's like awake, more, which we ended up kind of shifting. Thanks, but it was so funny because I feel like when you're pregnant. It's like this rush, to the finish line, and then you get therein. It's like! Ok now why, unlike when we ever been idle or still in the years of growing a business. And so I felt like I put this like unnecessary pressure myself to like yeah flying be present. It's like your child sleeps twenty hours a day like I am so glad that,

we took our trip when she was a few months old and I is more. President, then than I was during my quote, maternity leave, and so that was like super. Listen to me about that part. Where am I honestly, the first few months, while your sleep deprived, I actually had more time a man's. Then I feel like I do right now with an eleven months old, where my agony maternity leave right now, but that was interesting me. This was a figuring out like you're a flower and like one now honoured my desire to nurse her they ve made like us for a hold of like inexcusable vike. Why? I can't get things done in his dislike. I think the flow thing for all of us is just and so different cause. I look back into MIKE. What did I do with my time? the boy like I'd ten hours a day. What did I do now? You me like an hour- and I might dead said to take over the world with that

will. You give me like an hour, and I might dead said to take over the world with that. So efficiency has definitely Greece over here and what it really push my decisiveness now, yet I can make a decision on faster now So, let's now that we ve shared the struggle a SEC about our triumphs, because Sarah made us realise the other day or she was like wait, a minute like you guys we all had our biggest year yet, which is saying lot, because year after year, we ve grown our businesses and to see that we have now taken, leaves we ve taken about a cause. We ve taken traps. We have taken time away, we ve hired. We ve done all these things. So I want to know what has been your greatest triumph this year as a working mom ass. I knew I'd go first. Things here

I mean I just said I like. I think the fact that I took a three months leaves in a month sabbatical all paid but also walked away from a business in still had our biggest are the new year. Yet are listening power recording this round tracked you I mean that it's crazy to me. It doesn't add up on paper, but I think it's because exactly what you said, you're issues is pushing me to be a dynamic, decisions faster. I like I've hired boy this year, I just you get a point. We're like. Ok, it like, I think, it's your Mama bear instincts come out ways like to protect the cab and to protect the Dan, unlike like teeth outlets So I am I am I because I want to go when I'm off. I wanna go hang out with town and out why Instagram anywhere near my time, weapons hands when I'm just like watching him discover a dog for the first time. You know, so I think that there is some

thing to their the on it sledge, I think just ramp dot and that's why I helped those numbers roll out like they did Sarah. What do you think how you have your bustier yo yeah I mean anything to lie the same. It's just like the efficiency peace away. I am no longer doing things that are sort of wake. Halfway an order half way they kind of make some money I'm just like. Thou wake is insufficient, is as effective do I love doing? It doesn't need those three things it's out and like no questions asked moving on, I don't have time Even like you know him anymore over this evening's sitting of actually help, so everything I am doing is so in internal and soul so Gaston so wake me. No game has ever men more a strong, and I think that that is like in a national just describes. Everything in it just goes to show like it doesn't like ear. Efforts is not always directly court

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not handle any extraneous information right now, like I love you, but I'm sorry. I was thinking about this question because I wrote it, but I wasn't thinking about this question because I honestly think- and I hope that people are listening to this- whether their mom or not. I think it was by far my best year yet because I left margin and I blacked out this year, I fears protected every minute of my time in a way that I have never done, and I said no to all of these shiny things and it's insane, to me, because anything you seen me do over the last three hundred and sixty five days is because I want to do it not because I have to do it, and I think that that passion and like deciphering like do, I have the bandwidth to do in a fairly large or does it feel good, but this out

do I want to sit down a record these or whatever. That is, and it's crazy, because I have never been so head down in my own business, like we have turned call MIKE interviews in, like all these things were like in a past life I would have been like. Oh my gosh, this is crazy, but I turned down so much because I have to be so devoted to my mission and my business and say no to anything that isn't supporting that and is almost like a firm like we know what we need to do and like they're, so many distracting beautiful invitations at come to us that were so prone to say yes, because where people pleases, but I think, having a kid actually like transformed me to be like, is this aligned with my mission and is this moving my needle forward? First, so that I can continue that mission and if it's not that it's a know, and so it

like wild to look that we ve all kind of work part time innocence is here, but we have also like oil did moderator results than ever before, which is crazy. They think it changes the end Nato has, if you're, only doing stuff that year excited about like then Naturally, the results are gonna me so much bigger because you love and care about it and people can town. It's like. I think, that's probably why it doesnt may be out on paper as there is, that sort of like magic man that is involved. Ok, I have a question on the list. Was it like in related to this? Is it changed the way either of you approach like the long game? I think now they're having here, I'm like ok, I think like even in a hurry, said before that you walk into your own advice and I feel like I'm a constantly doing now, barely even the hassle, integrity of me a year ago now like tat.

This is a little slower and such like yeah I'll. Do that but I'll do that one day or I'll. Do it like on my time when I want to do that opportunity just not now, because in trying to protect, I don't know, but I think like the way I look at all from playing the long gain has changed a little. Oh. I think I have shifted in any ground three. I think I'm still in a cheaper, but I think I'm shifting more towards a seven which the ultimate desire of a seven his freedom. And it's interesting because I think I went through seasons of wanting to be seen. And no one in your important- and I feel like kindly eyes actually made me become a little bit more private and protected, and I want a non amenity a little bit more and I want to. I be in the woods in our Lake House, with twenty acres of land like separating us from the world, unlike protect this little bubble in. So it's been super interesting to me to watch.

Just myself change, as I think about like wine, like how do I want to raise her, but also to like what do I want to share of her with the world and like very much like getting very deep and analyzing like that, because it's just so are to navigate especially like online and like how we share our children's lives and sound when I've definitely went from. I I want to be seen, and I want to be known, and I want to be important to like. I want to make an impact, but I also want like protect the sacredness of what's happening between like the four walls of our home, which is introduced. I felt that sell it's tail by just maybe it's that, like the Mama bear instinct, but I'm just like now like protecting dislike sacred name. You know which is our family every time- and it is it, So wild like how that happens in and like I saw that way. Even I just know it s like.

Even on Instagram. Just like I postal element lesson, I don't really care air like. I don't really care, because if I am using that I too, like actually be with my family and to be present and not have many saw now than light. Then that's ok do and how much do we really want to? I don't know. I think There is a balance, because new emphases, in time like I wish that other moms before me. That answer reinvent says you know that day sharing staff there. I didn't. I have a whole lot of examples like us to look ahead, and so it would have been nice to see you. I owe that you can do both in you. Can you know here's how rhythms of the day and were changer sledge, and so I like that part of it, but then there is that part to that site, but I also feel sure protective around the time and around our humanist, like primacy alibi, When I shall in my house now, and it's just a very weak interesting

Now I know how I always talk Quaker Winner text. I beg you should be fine, Let them Hornaday of leather like we're just lake and his men, like going through. I think that's another head is, as is less like this total just a real birth of yourself in, some way is like parts of your personality change like mere any ground. Contains ancient, as are you just like see, things are a little bit of a different way and shifting is ok. I think the beginning, I was a little bit breakdown and I remember when we have that time this year, we kind of like all went down like we re just like not talking, which was weird visit was usually we have travelled a couple days. There is every day, and there is a time, and now I think we all kind of like went darkened eye when we kind of came back. I was likewise, we kill this die, but I do understand, because here is our I've been feeling is. I am finally feel like I'm coming through this poor at all.

Like the transition into motherhood and I'm kind of coming out the other side, and I in that order is figuring out like in your kind of grappling with bike. Will I feel differently here this thing: change. What how do I? How do I make it work? And I think we bought all three of us at the end of that reply, like yeah me too, I ve been very minor babies and figuring out scheduled for trying to figure out our rivers and lakes. You need to go internal chill and I think that has been just like one of the most interesting things now awaits that it's ok. And that's a normal private users and being literally two days ago, and we are all voice sexting, and you said something where I too, we agreed with that where you were like what I felt like like after three months. I would like feel like myself again in the night, and then I was like more maybe it six months and where all the year marked and I feel like I'm. Finally, almost like this fog is lifting it, it's not a bad fog, but not a guy like a heavy fog. It's like, I feel, like I'm, coming

How can I make? I am a mom and I am still Jenna and I'm still a ceo and I have desire that- are my own and I have desires as a mom. Unlike it's like this, like rebirth, that, like eyes, kids have been growing in heating, these milestones of eating and teeth and walking, and all these things so with action even growing, alongside of them as well, and not that I think, will ever go back to who we were before it is we while, but I do feel like this fog is lifting where I'm like. Ok, like I feel like myself again more and I feel like I'm ready to like be more independent. Then and, like you know, in some of the other do with hormones and winning and all of that kind of stuff too, but it is just like this year: transformation you're pregnant you give birth. You have you know. I just crazy how crazy is literally a year yeah. I really did. I thought it would be like oh maternity leave and then you can like. Maybe you don't look

much like you're pregnant anymore, and so you know you can move forward in life, but it's definitely and the like earlier. Maybe it's one and then their sounder, maybe like now. I think I would be for anyone else's I'll. Give you or any one like give yourself a year by year of just it's. Ok, if things Don T all told the norm, or they don't see our lake in the flow? Quite like it's. Ok, like just give you of that year, I gave the same amazement I like talking to other, like women, about creating a business Lincoln there's a year and is asking for a year and mother man like there's so much they happen is not first year not only with them, but with you and that's. Ok, like giving couple of a bit more grace around it. So, along those lines, what is one thing you wish someone had told you Ashland, do you have anything So I wonder Molly shared of conciliates pictures of like baby toys, unlike tools and think

profiling, and I love how we all have some worse than I could bear lake. We attended sure it's things that aren't like super primary color and, like I don't remember, I at this moment, is probably in the days and hours I like. I know what kids, but I'm not area roses the highway. The way my living room. This is so damn I was thinking over with all of these highly coloured toys, or I don't know where this I don't know and so anyway, We were hanging out with some friends one time in the husband of my girlfriend said you know. I realize no peer goes into this thinking like you know why. I can't wait for my living room to be recovered and primary hard voice. I know I love, but it's just running high. You break your own rules all the time in your always look, I heard somebody else say is like you make a wire yourself all this area of hearing, and I think that's the biggest thing like

wish. I had known how much I was gonna start breaking mountain rules when it comes to things like. I will never work at night and I I love productivity, efficiency and like reading these books and I'm not to get into like male female self pity, some of them are written by men, and I just like I look at my life like no, I would rather do bastard dinner time with tall and then like. If was as it were, I'd, rather hop on work from no nine eleven and, like I break my own rules all the time. All these things to hold up as like actions that I had to do a certain way? She's been them now and it's ok. I wish that two inches of someone it. In that it would have been interesting. I get to see my reaction, yeah yeah. What do I use a rush? I mean I will send somebody told me that running a business and being an entrepreneur helps you be a man that it doesn't have to be something that, like a bit

Where are the skills required for balls are so similar? I think I would have had like found so much peace in that, though ache were used to figuring out are used in doing hurry. The names were used to you know like just making decisions on the fly and kind of like listening to our intuition a lot of times in that's what a lot of business really at the end of the day and I think to wake The most important thing for me has been like that you can do this and you can do it your own way like it doesn't have to look like anybody else's. Motherhood experience and you dont how to carry everybody else's stories and fear is another bike. Who do you doing her way to the way that feels bass and like create with that looks like for yourself instead of like? Oh, I guess This is like how it has to be, unless you so negative, inform me so mentality, I think, has been super outfit. They were somebody kind of way told me that before I wouldn't have been

scared. I so funny the other day we are flying me and my mom and calmly, and one colleague has more frequent flyer miles then. Almost like I wish they would let us get like but it is? It is money my mom elect him me was like. Why has surprise you? I was having this what we are watching a lion king and they like held up some minor sort of Bali. This law would like. Oh, my god, images I egg. Why has surprise you the most about this last year and I said how much I enjoy well, yeah, yeah and anything I just assumed its are gonna be so hard and that doesn't like remove the fact that it his heart in an so hard, but I enjoy, and it comes naturally, and I desire you with her and I desire feeder and, like I like her

interruptions are like a happy interruptions in it's funny, because I was not a super maternal woman not does humor emotional I like did. It still was on the fence, even after a journey of crying like a baby. I still just like didn't know, and it's so funny. Much. I love it and like it doesn't. Take away some of the days where I want to pull my hair out or I'm like when is half time his nap time coming, but it's like there is this piece of us that is created to do this. To being a nurturer and to be selfless than I think it softened me in an entirely new way that was so needed at my idea and it humble in so many ways but yeah it's just. I am shocked and I'd buy like how much I actually just really enjoy being a mom journalists like I completely I'm telling you Brain like mom brain is the same cuz I eat some of this stuff in like we did talk about that, but it was like

eighteen months ago, and I don't remember that suit, like nothing in me, felt maternal as they. I did not go out being the kid he was like. Let's play house, I was late. Let's play you know, the women AIDS, the inner like something that was allowed, where I know school, and I think yeah. I was always afraid that I was not going to be good at this. I M just going to be. I wasn't gonna be good enough to say that people are in a way to tell you, like you, know and remember when a pregnant that is expecting in adopting people say things like: don't get a sleep of I'll get it in and act a world that is helpful in its own sense. Sometimes you we hear a lot of delight. Citing things that are about to come around energy and sometimes but so yeah, that was really good an I. I think I completely didn't understand how much I was conscious treasure it. Unlike some I don't hate wake, A bit too. I am cause I get to go in and like cut off,

somebody really normal sleep. I thought my chest in your ears that little sleepy work the next crying well I'm worst snow lucky to it like, I think we should preface all of us that we are so lucky one. We're on our businesses, so we can drive re priorities, and do things have flexibility? We have helped president their demands are nannies like all of this is blanketed with like we are coming out this with our experiences as our own, from a place of privilege like we're so lucky, but like also like it it doesn't. That doesn't mean it's easier. It doesn't take, waved the hard parts and I just think, like holy cow like we built. These lie, like you know like these were handed to us. If we build these year after year, building of these businesses and creating,

situations that were so lucky to have, which is so cool. I think that's one of the best like. I am so glad that I did that he now, I'm so glad that I have had that set up in way like, even though it wasn't perfect what you're saying ashen but yeah such a difference like and we are so why send all three of us have these great partner Yours and hazards to that are so how points us a foreigner may think both of the business side and of like changing into parent had together, which has also been such a bank in huge houses. You're too, but yeah, I'm so surprised by the amount of joy and how much I love. How might we always joke, unlike for less like for my right? Maybe let's get they were first year worse than you and woe men will see. The other day was like we began pause, the conversation having a second, why didn't

nowhere near ready, though, like I know we all talk about this, but I think it's a minute so interesting cassettes, like when you start dating someone ask you when you're going to get engaged and then you, when you going to marry when I get to my house when you get them all these things, and it's so funny to me cuz. I think my vision and it's so funny that I even have a vision after our journey and knowing how uncertain things can be like I feel like I'm pregnant very year, I devoted this first year, two, like first being a mom second being an entrepreneur and nurse and all of that, and now I'm like I'm ready to just like have a year to like have my body back to myself and like to like feel strong, again in healthy again and like I, am nowhere near ready to like think about like having another pregnancy is just like SARA. I was so ill, and so I'm like I can imagine that I myself back into the ring and night being down for the cow again like that actually scares me. So how are you guys feeling about like next kids and

about. Why? Don't I just begun again? Can we yeah roads can reclaim renouncing? There is named by war, so yeah I'm gonna go the same way as you unkind awake. I have had friends at either side. No just get it down here, there's something to that and I do want them kind of close together the same time. Like I mean I felt Why do you I got diagnosis of, alas, in it took us in our way nine or ten man south trying and then made changing so many things and tweaking and playing, unlike really focused on everything I can do to like you about my infertility, powers and so no there that, during like it's, not something I take for granted, and I know that could be a much longer road said. Autonomy to all. But then again I there is something by then

he's coming out now, like a kind of feel like I'm just getting back into myself and that really guide. Anyone just like back to make work out end just an array claiming who I am now separate them. Just being a mom or separate than being in a business owner and so that she also I kind of unjust excited for some of that time and also just to save her hand, MIKE Sabre what he, where his eye and sort of watch that forests before adding anything else and then on the other hand, unlike our or forget you know, it's fine, like all figured out, you know, even if it happened so back, I honestly would go back and forth between the two like I could now one kid and be happy were taken away in three or four end either way Wilson now that I am excited from one of war again are going through So I want to know if you, ladies, could give women one message like why,

one thing that you just wish was out there when you are pregnant or planning to get pregnant or whatever like. Why is the message you want women do here today is that you can do boss, like you, can do both and be both. You can do with joy and with presents like it does require having how it does require. A good community, especially like other minds, are women. It is a very good partner. For it, it does require a lot more organization than like ever before, but that it is possible and that the second thing to is that baby, is like an expansion, not something that takes away from your wife had just takes everything. Is there and everything that you love and just like, elevates it shifts things around a little bit, but it is so much more something that Joanna just expense. And in every way, and unless you kind of up into the next stage of wife in them,

season in their sight, crazy, beautiful way. That's when I wish They told me and that's why I well continued oh share other women as much as I can add those hills maybe have some fear is around in the beginning. What about you ash yeah? If I could only toxin, south two years ago or first, I think in this year's show me completely different outlook on Working man like I just I just I've, no idea had no idea how much do and endless there's a lot of people that I think I wish I had. I don't know like just hugged we are just at I'm amazed. This year has been like I've been slack job miss the year, but if I can say one thing to myself two years ago be similar to what Sarah said it doesn't take away your mojo. It just shifts that I think I was so afraid that it was going to blow me down or bring things to a screeching halt or something and it doesn't. It just shifts that energy similar to what you're saying

recently legged can have multiple kids. It sounded like it takes away from the second wine. It just doubles, linkages multiplies it, and I think that the energy and like my grit in dry, for business go away. It is shifted, its was different and multiply and a little bit different capacity. Now. Remember China. What about you? I gotcha struggling on this one, and I think the message is very Marty you, Sarah, where, like you, can do both things and you can do them both while in that it's all about like it duration and not balance and not trying to figure out this balance. I crack the code on balance but like integrating like what does it look like? to bring a baby into your life in into your business and you There are so many times is your where I had to put my foot down and say, like you, don't like guess what, like our baby, is coming to Fiji and they were going to figure this out, but, like we wall approaches with so much grace and we're just so grateful to have this

periods as a family and there so many ways that I like stepped into this, like woman that I have always been, but that, like means into my intuition so much deeper, whether it's in my life or business life, unlike listens to myself. So much more like I feel like you could read every baby book and you could watch every courses and you could take all of the blog posts have ever been published by being coming. A mom has shown me not like there is into action in all of us, whether it as an entrepreneur or as a mother that exists, for so long. We ve been taught that, like other people, know better, there's a system for this are there's a way to approach it in his eye, dang like if we had leaned

into our own understanding more. I can't even imagine how that could have shifted things, but now like what a beautiful challenge to just listen to your guy and trust that you know best in all things, whether that's motherhood or entrepreneurship Yeah, I told acre o girls. What would we do without each other? I mill egg and together we would have spite diversionary does link our glasses and we would urge line we serve by robes new energy next year. I now that I am proud of Us- and I am so grateful for just your friendship in this year and the many podcast that we ve sent each other through voice sags throughout and in time, a year. I can imagine navigating this year without you guys than I just. I wish this for every woman who is about to enter motherhood. I wish it with a person,

Let's go find out. If you can judge, it's really been like the biggest blessing, a hundred grand its spanned just topic of conversation. Spanned everything that you could possibly, Jane Room, I pushing hard and nursing be eating everything, yes to business bystander every. Who are we sign I've. Can you to just tell people where they can connect with you. Sarah, you go first I met simply raw helps dot com in over Instagram that simply real hope, and your book is called an available. I'm working scowled simply real eating. It's available wherever books are sold, probably most easily on Amazon and even my first book there to expand the simply real health cutback, amazing and ashland serious other babies

I think that com and then at Ashcombe S, Carter and Instagram. Amazing. All cheers said I feel it. Growled deserve a need, a glass of wine, and we have done it yeah yeah, I love you too. I mean I didn't want to start that conversation. In fact, I think we can record an entire series of what we ve navigated in our first year, motherhood and the beautiful thing, as is at work just getting started for the truth, be told. I am so grateful to have I'd a community of women behind me as we ve navigated this new season and live together as a collective and we kind of a chuckle. The end because we realise that out of his last year this was the first time we are all on the line together mean mostly wages voice. Saxon get back to each other a day or two later, because guess what life gets really busy. But I just want it courage you, no matter where your eye, if you're thinking about becoming a mom, if you're in the trenches of motherhood or if your starting your business,

baby and you're, not quite sure what lies in the future. I hope that this encourages you today, because we all had so many fears about what would look like and while our lives the widely different than they did a year ago, they are filled with so much beauty and gratitude and gratefulness for what our current situations look like I mean how lucky are we to get to do what we love and to get to grow the families that we always dreamed about? We are so so lucky. Let me know if you want more candid conversations like this. I mean I've been so careful to navigate motherhood and now turn my feed into a mom blog or anything like that. But this my new reality, and this is the life I'm navigating as the sea. Oh these days, and so I would love to hear from you haven't over to insure, am at gold, digger, pipe gas, and let us know

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