Hello, we're here for more happier, a pike s where we get more fear, tat elizabeth. I grounds I would recommend a beatles documentary that we love get back and was talking about how to get more reading done. So this is what's something making you more happy I am more happier about the fact that I'm about to go to puerto rico, so I'm doing season two of fantasy island. As you know, as I talk about constantly and I'm leaving in a few days for puerto rico for several weeks, and I'm excited to go on and adventure yeah, because I realize I just need these adventures periodically. I need to just leave and be doing something completely different. Not granted I've been there before. So I thought ass, big of adventure as it was season. Why I'm just kind of nice

im nice to go on an adventure where I actually know the people and happy. I am that we're staying at a different resort, we're shooting somewhere different this year and after just being home, so much I'm really looking forward to just leaving sort of getting on the plane and flying away. While I wonder if that's what the, things that attracted you to tv writing is like. You do have a very adventurous career like it's constantly, a new job and new people and you'll. Have you play you play different roles, and this is like a lot of change in asia is much more than a lot of people's yes, no one thing about me grudge is, I am not one who's gonna say: oh, let's just flighty europe and gunnar drain and see are we end up or I'm not gonna research and do all this I'm not adventurous in that way. But I think I like about this is that I have other people doing that,

Why am I like? I set about having worked there because, yes, I do see a lot. I do experience a lot, but it's like someone else's setting at agenda, and I think that I really like that kind of adventure rather than me setting the path obvious, seven amiss adam and jack, and right now by they'll. Be fine. So I don't know I'm just like ready right, yeah, you're, ready for an adventure guiding the sameness of this time is one of the guys, its guard. Of course. Last year, when I left, I was like I'd ever wanna go back the advocated a love for to recover, because I was so exam. those so intense. Now you forget, you forgot, and maybe they too little recovery time between adventures. Yes, definitely regrets what does make. You more happier, oh I'm more happy because of the night hours at the met together metropolitan.

see him every everyday that it's open, so I'm intimately familiar with it's ours. For instance, it's closed on wednesdays and a couple of times. I forgot that it was Wednesday and I went over trucked over there and then found that the foreclosed, but if you go on friday or saturday, it's open till nine p dot m instead of five p dot m usually closes at five, which really means at like four hundred and forty five. They start kind of rounding you up and trying to move it to the door if you go in saturday into between nine and so one thing at the man is that there's lots of windows and lots of skylights and so going when it's dark. It's it's like. It's very feels very dramatic and glamorous, like the lighting, is very different from. If you go the day, it's pretty it's often less crowded and the crowd kind of feels different and it it just says indifferent. Atmosphere like it only shows it. Is it like it's if it's dark outside when I go in it just feels like woo, you know it's very mixed up files, and this is basically frank waller via its romantic. It is

and I really I really like that they do this, because I think it shows an institutional knowledge which is like, maybe for some people they can't come until later. As they work long hours or for whatever reason. I just think it's it's like it. Doesn t really happy to be able to experience something that now I have experienced so many times, but yeah it still has new angles very ants. I it's interesting because you so you set an intention to go to the met every day for a year and then the year is up and you're doing it at your discontinuing. On yeah the rest of your life, your decline, at least for now. I think it is kind of the rest of my life, because I do I just love it so much very different, doing it every day than just doing it sundays of so called bruce. like I told elinor like she and a friend were, you know, wanted to do something, and it's really cold here. New york city right now says well, why don't you go to the mat and they loved it, so I I love going everyday nice in every at every hour,

it's also undergo really early. Yes, that's making me happier good, ok, gretchen, let's take a break and then when we get back where, Talk about which I have already talked about, but now you ve watched it. So we're gonna talk about why it's amazing what we ve learned from it. Why were obsessed with it all things? Get back. Ok, listen! Now, quality, screen time. Where we talk about a tv, oh or a movie that has been making us happier and yeah Alyssa whenever he tells me to watch something I should just go ahead and watch it cause. You told me for years to watch madman and when I finally did, of course I like couldn't watch it fast enough. You said about get back. You're like you should watch it. I think you'll really love it and, of course, the minute I started. I couldn't get enough. It's

oh good! Yes, so for anybody who has seen that get back is a three part documentary series disney, plus that Peter Jackson did who directed lord of the rings. It is about the beatles making the album. Let it be yes and the idea when they did it was that they were going to do a documentary of them. Recording this album and then they we're gonna do a show at the end there are planning to do is show on television the I'm they hadn't been touring are playing for a law on time in public. So that was a deal and let it be ended up being the last album that they released, although not the last album they recorded, and so had many many hours of footage, and this is, I think, eight hours and

Are you and I both felt like we could have just watched it forever? Yet I want to see every piece of fudge its fascinating, but I will say this if, after ten minutes, you're not interested, this is for you. It doesn't and it is watching the grass grow. Yes, I mean, on the one hand, they're doing it ratably quickly because they are doing an entire album and like what was it twenty one days or something so in a way, it's intensely concentrated but minute to minute. You feel the hours that their feeling, so if you don't like it right away like it three hours, then so few million avail- I would say yes you're just watching the beatles do there are significant and why you and I think, both loved about it- is it's really seeing the creative process at the highest possible level, I mean, as you and I are both beetles fans. Casually

the client like, like a blade holes, the out of course, as one does. but we are not beetles obsess. We don't know how the albums. Now we didn't know a lot of stuff before we want. Thus I barely knew their names like who is here. I will John and Paul. It rings George. I was like a lunatic me if you can. I knew, but I had a light, can cause your butt really you're saying the creative process, and I was telling you like initially how I'll I loved that it reminded me of light the most amazing writers room. Ok, Why is that telling me what what is it? I totally get that, but like spell that out, what what is it about it that reminded you of the writers' room? Well, one! It's it's the stop and go nature. Rob and sat somewhere celebrating and then somebody else goes yeah and then sometimes that clicks or seventy goes yeah, but they I mean yeah

go in another direction and then there talking and then suddenly someone starts talking about or their case playing something completely. different and everybody sort of goes down. That road and get us maybe off of the creative, the the focus of what they're doing. But then it always comes back around so that is really what writers room is like, and these guys are just doing it like to the max where you can't believe are actually writing these songs in front of you. When you hear them like go down. What you to us sounds like a wrong turn because you're like that's how let it be sounds, are like that's not what happens in what's this on that you and I

were saying, as our who I got a feeling I got out. I can't you see, I'm going on a list of a directive, but its interests and those of its out like this. I haven't the writers room where it sort of like. If someone going off track, are they not going off track like sometimes something like a tangent is actually ends up being important, and so in you see them being frustrated, especially paul where it's like. Are we staying on on task? Are we not staying on tat? What does it look like to stand? Hath like it's a creative paradox, our attention, which is when are you working and when are you goofing off, because sometimes goofing off is what's what ends up being proactive and you see you saw that happening with them. Yes, I will. You also see happening, which also happens and writers rooms and I'm sure all creative places is the egos.

An rigel egos george Harrison for instead is actually ended up, leaving at one point because he felt his voice was it being heard in that the big deal you know in the creative process is that people feel heard at the same time, if you have someone in charge and we're going to talk about the boss, nature of it, that person has to have the final creative say. So that was the other thing. I just found really interesting that all of them are ce, talented, but they still have fragile egos bright, and I only nine headway in that's being human right. They wanted to have each others respect and I wanted to be listened to. And The other thing it was interesting- and I know this from talking to you at the writers room is like. There was a lot of humor and there was a lot of time clowning around and goofing off at seven to get it felt like. Is this taking us off task? but then, on the other hand are like well, it really defuse the tension and a lady

the boredom of just the kind of the grinding, relentless nature of meeting to like you do it. It took to move these projects word, and so I thought that interesting to see how they, how they would play around or allow themselves to have those moments of lateness. Yes, even were to meet to me, like I had a stress dream. While I was like, as I watched the documentary over a couple of days, I distress dream and one of the knights that, like I was part of the process because You feel the deadline and like in the documentary. They show you the pages being crossed all of us of the calendar and you feel the weight of it happening in your life, you don't have time to goof off, but but, but I know better, I'm like there is time to goof off because in the end, that's what helps the team work better and while a couple of funny things about that gretsch one, I think it would be hard for you. You are such a task orient I am personally. I think you would have a hard time doing that.

you know, being I totally and collaborative environment like this, because I think it would make you really stressed and uncomfortable I don't know I am a little more or less. I don't know yet. What do you like being a right of room for the sentence and the other funny thing is like the deadlines like I relate to this so much, and I think a lot of people do with needing a deadline to get something done because we have. This deadline was completely arbitrary picked up, they didn't album right firm months, sir. However, long afterward, it's not like they had they hit this date and they were even sure they were doing this tv show and they didn't end up doing it, and then they were, they could have just said,

let's just all come back in a month. Well and even even the show the live performance, it's like they ended up doing it on the one roof of their building, so they didn't even had to have like the reservation. You know they talked about various halls and places that they wanted to get that they ended up, not getting so in the end you're right, it was all a fabrication like it was completely. It was a goad that they could have disregarded at any time, and yet you did feel like it was really important that it was there that he did give me out of urgency and focus to what they were doing and there was like a ass, it agreement to nobody state that they could just yet or it yeah, because they all had to buy into as dead love. But you know they were the beatles they could do whatever they want it, but to everybody needs a deadline or most of us. Do you don't, but most do I like not having a deadline, I feel it gets.

as we now, but but that's unusual, rent and leave your collaborating may be needed at length and then gretchen. One thing: I've thought about wind terms are just the creative process and the fact that you know they would redo some four hours and hours. You know they had to now work our teen songs. They would get stop working on the same song just the same verse. Oh you know you are willing to facts it and it made me think of this gates palm part of this yeats palm called Adams curse about. Basically, how poetry is really hard to write

It needs to look easy and I will read that section says we sat together at one summers in that beautiful mild woman, your close friend and you and I had talked of poetry- I said: align will take us hours, maybe get if it does not seem a moment's thought are stitching and unstinting has been not, and that's the thing about when you see what the beatles put into every song. And yet you know when you hear it on the album. It feels just so effortless yeah, that's really the artist at work, but also they had that relentless pursuit of quality that was yellow

so striking to me. Is they weren't willing to settle even when other people were like it's good? I mean I remember at one point Paul mccartney, it's like well, it's kind of plotting and I was like pretty harsh on yourself and then he said something like somebody said, always good and he's like it's good. Until you decide it can be better and it just this relentless pursuit and then at the end it just seems like. Oh, it just falls off there, author, guitars, yeah, yes gretchen, you know, who else absolutely loves to get back documentary? Is our producer, chalk, who's been an environment like that so ha check. We want to get your take. I get back yeah I loved every second of it. So well what struck you most of like just seeing their process? You know what struck me is how low tech they were. you know they were the biggest man in the world and their tuning. Their own guitars was antivirals crappy vendor pierre speakers for their monetary system. In there

having their little bits of toast, didn t, so you are running around themselves. I thought that was really interesting when they could have had anything more that's interesting, because we felt it's like they were very open to using new tools. Yeah like they were interested in all these different elements, but I guess they were doing it themselves as opposed to sort of stepping in writing, and I was taken how George Martin was less involved than he had In previous out, but I would say that tackling johns when his wardrobe yeah Generic fine, just saying what they wore every class ends, and you saw for instance, John in the one day came in and had clearly taken a shower and like dried, his hair and looks completely different. It was like oh John showered, I know exactly. I noticed that too. It's like his hair is so laden,

but the code the coats were, expect tackle our guy, my guy. just so great to see their process in an era of the beatles that was so acrimonious yet wasted the memory of it or what people think of is that period, but there wasn't there at the end of how does like you don't have to my eyes, are having jamming together like in it. Didn't you didn't feel like it was on the brink, If a breakout, oh no, I know I was sad too yeah alright. Well, when we come back we're going to talk about things, we learn lessons learned from the beatles documentary the first spring,

I'll get us a lesson to be learnt. I mean you and I both felt like we took away sort of a lot of incites for ourselves from like these geniuses. One thing I can think of is- and you knew you mentioned this earlier chuck like one of your things, this step into the future- yeah, kept thinking like they were so eager to learn new tools like at a certain point, indifferent musical instruments came in some, even just like little tiny on this kind of like whimsical instruments came in and they would all how'd around and they were so curious and they would pass it around like they were so eager to like see what they can do and then with the technology. Like that's interesting to check the thing is that they were had there hands on it, and they have saying, like these, other bands have this or that or we have. As you know, we have eight. acts where we want twenty tracks and they were they to lease to me. It seems like they were very eager to learn how to bring new tools into their process where you might think water-

in point, you maybe rests on your laurels in your leg out, you know what we do is get enough, and so we don't have to talk about new ways or new elements, and so I thought that was interesting, that they seem very eager and enthusiastic. I was like it got them all. Energized It wasn't like they weren't rolling their eyes, and I thought well, that's good, like remember that last creative yeah creativity can thrive with new tools and to embrace new tools of that made me think of step into the future. What lessons did you learn? Will the other thing that was interesting was how the dynamic changed when they brought in the scheme player odd name, Billy preston. It showed our bringing in a new voice can completely change the dynamic yes and it's interesting again. For me, now in our writers, room or using a lot of freelancer is so where I'm actually experiencing that, where you have a vibe and then suddenly, someone comes in and its gallantly different ended douglas energize. You know you have a new voice,

and they often commented on that they did, they think it will. I think it was. I don't know was it was one of them said: billy, you, you ve, really given us a lift, they mention it to him in his face and they also talked about it. When you isn't there just saying like they were very aware that he had energized them and they like when he walked in the room he just sort of drop by and they like writing that their feet like they did. He was an old friend, but it is interesting to think like. Maybe you need a new collaborator. You need to breathe somebody else into the process to bring to change the atmosphere has yet I had kind of change the vibe among among the among the room yeah, but I could see. Even if you are, doing something at work and like the bring in someone from another department to Julia, had a new perspective new. I just knew presence yeah new presents every personality matters. You know it also strikes me as it is. Sometimes it kind of confused me is had such a calm way of disagreeing. That sometimes I was like. Are they

having a fight like what it like, I dont understand because there so they would just say it so calmly and even then, like george left, the gruber He didn't storm out. He didn't knock his chair over he's just like rounded hobbs, get your respect it has worked out. I was like wait what and there were several scenes where they were really disagreeing, but they choose had such a calm air and to me I thought that was seem very wise, because it's like you can come back from that more easily than people like being very vehement and and and incur saying and and and using a loud voice it doesnt was all very We all know that british kind of that understatement or is there for banalities and their way of working together, but I thought there was a real lesson in that you can. You can say your piece in just a very

quiet way, and that also, I think it made it easier. Like a one point, omber cart me entered her son were were arguing and the fact that they were just answering each other calmly. I think kept it more. Conversational then like a big blow out. Yeah did take away for me for not too, which is interesting, like they were old friends like a dog, and how do we know thirteen and fourteen years old got together? So an amazing ass, an I think on when they enter thing about that is they could have even had knock down, drag outs and still been able to come together, and so the fact that they didn't do that is interesting, yeah, but also because they'd known each other. So long and sarah- and I have this- we have a shorthand way to argue. You know what I mean we ve done many times right, you kind of don't need to go. There are a lot you can shorthand

So there can just kind of hand, wave and it'd be like. Let's stipulate that the fact that I said this half's worth of stuff so anyway, it's interesting, but also like okay time you answer so surveying is your writing partner. She has been for such a long time, co host of happy in hollywood, and you ve been friends since high school. Do you think that having that relationship going back really to childhood to the home town, do they did that is kind of like irreplaceable I'd, do. I really do because it's a trust like you have and having known each other's families and groaned, other, yet say neighbour, neighborhood yeah, you just an and having all of these shared experiences at a certain age. You just cannot replace, sat and that's why I kind of I feel like the beatles again from all of us watching this work,

still at their core, they loved each other, no matter what was going on because they had that childhood friendship right, it's interesting you forget how young they were when they came to a mean they were were young when, when that, when all you want an end, yes, I mean when the documentary weren't they only in their early twenties, yeah yeah its extraordinary. But ok again on this idea of how they related to each other. It was so interesting to me about this, who is boss. Do we need a boss? Yeah like theirs, is one part with when Paul macartney said, I'm scared of me being the boss. I've been the boss for a couple of years and he didn't want to be the boss, but he felt like he had to be the boss. Then, at one time, Paul, mccartney and John Lennon have a private conversation and he's like. You're the boss, I'm the secondary boss and John Lennon was like not all the time and Paul mccartney is like yeah all the time, so it's sort of like who's, the boss,

and then in another time it was, if you had told me to watch out for this. They said they had this, this leader, Brian Epstein, who died at thirty two and at one point they said who What will this his role as worth? What what an imaginary manager, I believe he was there manager refusing visionary manager who helped them from the very beginning and end at one point They like! Oh, it hasn't been the same since Mr Epstein died because you know he it would be so fascinating if we could see- document every an earlier documentary and see how what role did he play for them, because they they seem to be missing that that that, like who's, the boss and want it, people wanting to be the boss not wanting to be lost to be and just set that it reminding me this this Andy warhol quotation that I think about all the time, we're Andy warhol rights. When I think about what sort of person I would most likely have on a retainer, I think it would be a boss Abbas who could tell me what to do, because that makes everything ease

when you're working and that's kind of what they needed, they needed a boss on retainer. Yes, yes, and they didn't heather on retainer is important. So you you only access when it's convenient for you. If it thinks that exactly saturday there not there is, none of us can often retailer exactly so get back, can't recommended enough, though so good because we are a lot of leverage grab snacks. I might get a wide something I'm real- and let me remind you of this- you ve won my dress like now like to turn it on that night. I have a spotlight on a tool. We love to watch tv, we love to watch movies and we also love to read, and so this episode we're going to have a spotlight on tools that will help you to get more reading done because nothing makes us happier than getting reading done. That is true, so one thing is there is a free

pdf called reading better than before on which is seven tips for getting more reading done, and I will post a link to that in the show notes a list. then I we did a pike s step aside, because, of course we did hashtag reed twenty one and twenty one and inept said three ten. We did a very special episode that is just full of our hats and listener. Hacks about tips. Strategies approach is for getting more reading done. It was so fond of collect those. Can I just say for anyone who just can't reading done. Please just try audio books because yet and ok, let's get a fish tat, is my that, since we have had is my request. Please try audio books because I've had a really hard time reading. Just with having all this work in my head, buzzing in spinning and audio books have really helps me up my reading absolutely and when people say doesn't count

I guess it does it counts. Okay, now the quotation I am going to read a quotation. I love the work of Christopher Alexander, an architect who writes a lot about of the philosophy of architecture. Is a book called the timeless way of being I love. I actually love a pattern. Language more, I will put links to both of those, but this is an observation that he made from that book. He wrote if I consider my life honestly, I see that it is governed by a certain very small number of patterns of events which I take part in over and over again being in bed having a shower having breakfast in the kitchen sitting in my the writing, walking in the garden cooking. Eating our common lunch at my office with my friends going to the movies taking my family to eat at a restaurant going to bed again, there are a few more. There are surprisingly few of these patterns of events in any one person,

of life, perhaps no more than a dozen look at your own life and you will find the same. It is shocking at first to see that there are so few patterns of events open to me. Not that I want more of them, but what I see how very few of them there I begin to understand what huge effect these few patterns have on my life on my capacity to live. If these few patterns are good for me, I can live well if they are bad for me, I can't.

Hmm, of course, now all I wanna do is write down my patterns of my patterns, so I'll report back to you what they are. Okay, well, we'll swap Elizabeth. Are you feeling more happier? Yes, I am feeling more happier thank you to chuck and please get in touch gretchen's on twitter, amperage and Rubin, I'm at elizabeth craft. Of course, our email addresses podcast is gretchen rubin dot com for everything related to this episode go to happier casts dot com by garage. While is it the best time to start a happiness project is twenty years ago. The second best time is now

the we're supposed to keep doing. So I didn't get a check to sorta. Take us through different expressions. Yeah do I think it's just like if I'm talking and you're just paying attention to what I'm saying you know and they can cut away to one face, I'm saying something: fascinating right now, I'm really fascinating. Aren't I. from the onward projects.