Bill Skarsgård (IT, Atomic Blond) talks about Sweden in the winter, being part of a family of actors and getting the role of Pennywise in IT. They also talk about how Swedish culture differs from America, how he feels about getting older and his new show Castle Rock!
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their country, thought you have it.
And you forget some time of your native language, I have you ever been surprised by anyone. Were you think like over totally cool the talk?
here and then someone responds in Swedish. I think I've been close up times in a really like where I'm like, I'm about to say something like the almost like that, like a sixth sense,
Maybe I should say this loud
If there is anyone here with this, it he's crazy as every time you walk around every time. Our industries at yours is really every time like this. If I walk, if I take a walk,
our again it you shall hear. Sweden is one of the most of its mode of incredible things about New York. Is that it so close to? You know the european experience that everything is. You know sixty eight
aware, but when you're in LOS Angeles, that's all eleven to fifteen hours away ass, we just don't range, don't get it as much but it so
it's. A wonderful here really is, and I mean I think New York is. I think it is the fourth biggest city in Sweden. I think- or maybe S London, maybe it's the fifth. I think that like in terms of where swedish like swedish inhabitants is, I think London is the fourth near the fifth and when I was asking your girlfriend, because my wife and I would love to go to Sweden and she said,
go to Stockholm start there and I'll give you a list of places. You need to go, see yeah, no one. If you can lay can both elite is parents, and my parents have a beautiful houses in the countryside to second outside of Morocco
and you have been all that would be so yeah we'd. Never we ve never been in it. It just we want
many horror movies in swedish horror is a very specific style of horror and it so
The list of angles are wide and so picturesque, and so is just stunning. You know so much of it feels like its outdoors kind of dealing with the elements here. Did you haven't there
a defining quality of swedish them for you, when you think about the difference, I think I mean I don't know. I've got this question the other day about it said in the summer and a psycho. What would you think that's a good so scare about the summer, and I think like December,
is supposed to be, the most haunted might throw them aside from one for some sort of in the mystical negotiation of gothic, Laura Leases, December's I've been, and if I see if you ve ever been to Sweden in December before it's quite a thing like it's, you gets pitch black and three,
oh yeah pitch black and so like. I would as a kid I would go to school, he'll go to school and its dark outside and then, when I was walking back to school was dark outside. If something is black, it's like not like its proper black darkness. It at three p m. So I think in terms of Scandinavian were
What sort of creative you know writing in and amused
as well. I think there's something about being surrounded in that darkness, that sort of stimulates, I guess creativeness or that you knew imagination. They there's this lot to come from that of the place of that it. So
such a dark ways during the winter and, of course, in the summary of the complete opposite ends. I mean it's rough was because we didn't you, you go into it in December, and then you know that's like it's to three months veto of this, and I mean they don't think. I'm not you know it's interesting. It must be so fascinated front of Europe if your biochemistry is different, because I just I think most humans are not designed to being darkness for twenty three backward yeah nuts. It's crazy in me, stop Amis fairly south. So you know, if you up to
I think it's exerted on the on the third to the to the three most southern point. You look at it that way than this two thirds more of a country may be more limits x, ray quarters, and if you off that the furthest north of Sweden, you get yet full darkness like there's no sun at all for weeks and then in his and summits just sent at that balances out, because you, you may think you hear about this. You know this this. This dark culture where it just seems like they have just thrown a tart over the sky for, haven't you think of the bullet people that
but that must exist. There must be like most people, they stay inside their time and then but swedish people are tall blue eyes, fair skins, stunning, like everyone does, that part. Doesn't
right, therefore doesn't
No, I will. I will think that maybe Sweden is a mythical land.
In writing, Ro Magical, be logical. Being censored
entire family does everyone.
You're really acts, or is there a couple this
I have three older brothers, yes and Alexander, and who suffer both actors, your son,
and then my youngest elder Brother SAM, is a doctor, a medical doctor, and then it's me and then it's my little sister, whose son she's nightclub like managing a nightclub in Stockholm and analysis or restaurants, I've bar
think- and that is my little brother vulture, because an accurate spiders economy and then I have to buy my youngest brothers fur too young. To be to be any
and six or nine five. How are they ate and five and yet lingered remains remains scene. If they want to do it, I guess:
if you'd remains remains to be seen. If they want to do it, I guess it's. What does it's weird thing? Is my dad hasn't been sort of actively encouraging us to pursue acting having definitely not actively encouraging us, but
He he's that of encouraged or my moment my dad encouraged us to do whatever we want it. So if I said
I wanna be inaccurate models. Will surely let's find it, but you know you two were hard at Odin need to take it seriously and in all these sort of advice, assure you that he would give me if I'd say anything you like if I said that I wanted to be a whatever he would encourage me to take it seriously and work hard at it, and it's funny guess I think he had so. I think he giving each is. He gets a question on me
he never thought than any of these kids would be actual something like when you know any. Firstly, game it at home. I don't see any my case becoming actors, and now he s four out of his aid. Kids,
animals doing really well to a target for one person from one family to succeed, but there's some sort of there's some sort of way
entertainment royalty- that courses through your blight. I dont know what it s really hard to two. I think here come to terms or teaches Justin
I like, I don't know why you know this is so many people out there that work so hard and you know really try to pursue
and a career and acting and nothing happens, and then why were doing so? Well as it's embarrassing. I think you know with with it it was then TAT was really fastening about it. Is that you, you know you were cast really based on your performance level. I mean there's! No, you know it's not what those moves. Let go. You know recast a tall handsome swedish man, I mean that's their care
Just has to be a croupier Spock there and you don't even see that you didn't see. You stay here, see that if the your actual base and- and so it's that's a really great role- the Galaxy sort of too few a cat- I'm really- I really just got this because by but my performance was was yeah, yeah yeah, it's. If there was a great like us, even in the casting process, there is no sort of specified
thing that they were looking for. I mean Andy Director. They were looking at new women read for it. A girl's read for an older guys read for fat thin whatever it is. You know like rule to what penalize would be original like type. There is no type there was this big? He or she could be. Anything is his whatever the sort of Andy's interpretation initially would be.
And then I just did something that I guess sort of was in line with what ever Andy had envision before even started. Casting itself, which is one of the things, were just sort of combination of sheer luck that he was doing it and eyes were brought something that he had already thought of ass, the carrying out of me right and up, and because of that, that sort of really was the beginning on such a great collaboration between us, because what
I brought he responded to and then sort of he said. No, we really thought along the sort of the same lines of what the character would be right so that the country you ve seen the movie is sort of our in a sort of collaborative work version of a penny
was there wasn't really never any sort of conflict or disputes. We were served on the same page that the whole thing.
Is extremely rare. I think, as for an actor, I mean I'm never mind it's one of the greatest collaboration of about with both the directive before I needed. If the other thing to is that I think you can never, you can never be type casts penalised
You still you don't look like you re, so you know what I never go out. It's hard for me to see that guy's anything that is not a soldier because Eligible Cloudmaker Balikh, maybe maybe
maybe you can play other clowns outside it. As you know, it seems like it. If it really is an incredibly freeing taken role, because you don't it's you, you just disappear into it in a way
yeah yeah, I added in it. It is great because I dont you know- I mean if we look at this is obviously without them. Without a doubt, the biggest thing I've ever done in terms of how the success of Aden and end
oh dear, how big the mood became and also them the thing that people will be
most people, probably don't know who I am where they haven't seen any of my other works. They go see this movie and you're right lake. I think there is. There is no problem with with becoming a type as an actor in only in you establish yourself as one thing, and then the industry starts putting you into that time.
Casting you as the same sort of character over Norbert read, and I think you limit yourself and you limit you're here, you're the type of characters that you get to play so having this scroll, I sort of man. Launching thing is pretty great because it is hard to type cats.
It's got louder over and over again, so it's
I mean I am, and I really think it's such a fortunate thing, because I did it it's it's. It is a full transformation in the sense that the character of the voice and the movement in the make up and everything is so far away from why I'm in in in in everyday life and
I just kind of want to see where that takes me in terms of like I always wanted whenever I, whenever I've gotten the question of like where, where do you? Where do you?
in vision yourself and in five or ten years or by the law on these sort of ridiculous questions. I I try not to think that for a head at all, but I have also,
had. Even when I was a kid or younger started out, acting always wanted to
My main goal was to be able to play as many different characters as I can yeah and constantly challenge myself. So my goal was to be able to get work great likened to just be able to get work in and do things that inspired me into play, different character. You know, I think that I think that that is what some sort of one of the things that is most exhilarating for me as an actress use, really dot delve into a character and and and and do that, and then you move on to the next thing in a completely different in this completely new challenges ahead of you in to causing the test yourself at that, as is wonderful yeah mean, I wonder if you would have been a lot of people start up. They think I just wanna be super successful,
did you really think about what is it that specifically that I want to do, because I think that that you know that I think there is a trap of people who just want to be famous actors or just wanna, be exportable, like an action which would be like a leap like a male or female lead, and then you go wall, but then that's really limiting, because you could just do that. One thing and at a certain point you can, I can't do that
but if you go into, but what you're saying is so really about the craft and the sort of the magic of just disappearing into characters. I mean you, there are billions of things you can do for years in his youth, as you start to get older, like
when you're sixty you can play these types of characters way and then you're, not. You know some aging film stars like
put on my spanks and go get the stump guy
jump around right down on no one coming. I love, and I think that it's the sad thing when you look
our industry and you see so many
you know men and women who serve try to cling onto you, threaten they waved below the surgically tried to make things. Look younger and Botox and all these things as an actor in it to me too,
make any sense whatsoever, but why I mean aging is a wonderful thing to to do or to experience as an actor, because I am really looking forward to the time when I was six years old and like out I'll, be able to play the lives of sixty year old man right
and I can't do that now, but I'm looking forward to the time when I, when I wear my face and my body
is mature enough to take on those type of characters and right and even the same thing of you know, being thirty five or forty every five years there will be an opening.
Need of some doors will be short? There is another from Google Open right, but in terms of characters and in her youth and who you plan, and I think that there is, I think, an actor should look at aging.
As an I mean, I actually, I think people should look at aging like that in life as well, right that it's like this obsession with clean
to use an unhealthy like aging? Is it was a wonderful, beautiful process in an ancient link up in open air?
an older like an aging space. I got
older women and older man's face can be so beautiful to look at. I think you know that you see that the aging price happening is. I know I don't understand this thing of trying to cling onto the right now. You're really twenties,
yeah see you like a youth billionaire you're you're like a review, your rich in youth right now,
You know what I was when I was your age. You stood. I used to think that too and then
but had forty liquor provided for Danzig FUCK. I know I mean I mean I don't this idea by cutting off your face. I dont know
but I wouldn t I just sort of feeling guess whenever it is gonna, be whatever it is. You do feel you. You know you do sort of field and its deeper than the superficial thing of going on. Just look a little different. It's that its title.
Not the brig you ever getting older, but it is the title like really understanding or mortal and there's an end point all this. But would you yeah, but your basic?
right now, you're a time millionaire so you're the guy, but I do believe the.
Presented. That way. I believe that you are excited about it and that when you do- and I hope that when you're sixty you're like this is better than I thought I was go. I've heard that that that people in their sixties from late fifties up can be the happiest times in people's lives right because
just down all the stresses that we have one were younger and all the anxieties of the it just all Unifil. Our people just goes away. You know. Yet ever it's a gift, worthier, it's great effort,
great, I feel happy, and I know who I am now to take, that long to figure out who you are there,
yeah. I mean I mean yes for shared and I I am still like coming proudly
twenty seven year old, worrying about eighty dad's, it's it's it's it's is, but it's what it is to make society
twenty seven is a weird age. I think, because
it's a wonder, seems word like for the first time that there's a shift when you're going to throw you lay twenties where it's like you,
like I did this movie earlier this year. Called assassination nation is a high school movie and I played high school
and I knew that when I was doing my aunt, I play team and its abuse, it sort of a team movie. I mean it's much more than that. Actually, but it's you
high school kids and I knew when I was doing this, and this is the last in fact of life. That is, if you know this is the last last time that I can ever play somewhat and going again you're talking about opening doors and door, shutting like I'm.
Maturing and age, but like that one
I knew I had a fitting my first fitting for that, and you know, I'm eighteen and its small american towns will have my characters. Not only is it lake sort of up in a different country that I wouldn't I do. I went to high school in Sweden,
and suddenly smell brown american high school is exotic to me, and I don't know how what they now. They dress and I dont know how would it would need ten year old dresses like
no, how what they, how they dress and
No, how would it will meet in your old dresses like so I have
spitting and it's like snow in the US skater things in some scale baggage thing and there's this there's a meme like this photo of sea Fish- Emmy, that's what's our kids indeed have you seen is now should I can show you hang up is because this is
We await decoding. Ask you about that? No no! It says it is the thing, and only I I I. I think that a Lick Stevie show me
no it's. It's is the thing, and only I I I. I think that sixty behaviors one
favorite faces of all time allotted is based but anyways. What what is it? He kids, something this might be really boy fruit for the lesser evil will put this out, we're lookin five and be right there. How do you do Philip it like that?
I felt that they get. It was like a guy tablecloth. There was like even make a cap backwards to my baggy things like Ito. I think I've never felt old before that's what I mean about being twenty seven is that for the first time, you're sort of not the youngest anymore, rightly it's a shift for you like. Oh
like I thought I thought I was a kid in, and always the literally just stepped out of the building like a minute ago, called the door to close with a vodka, exactly areas just emphasis in their legs Jerry and knew the whole. I was vetoed the whole entire ass. I was like a senior by like by years here and, unlike I feel, all for the first time ever in this sitting
I see old and is one of those things were like he lay twenties is one those things where there is a shift of going from life
young man to lake or like it is there's this too, like that all like editorial thing right and then so, and there seemed to us to look at that- you can go like you. Can you look at aging ass, a sort of urea mortality, things shit starts, Avenant, your body, searches, decaying and, and I feel that is well like. I don't want to die out of your terrible but up, but there is some tears I think there's also a way of looking at legal can now. This is my time right now, like you now, I'm twenty seven,
I'm thirty, five non forty, unlike thing doors are closing and others art opening and like your light to sort of moving moving in one direction or another, but its changing and the changes woods gray. I thank you not here, and you can you know it's it so easy to keep looking back, but if you're looking back then you're gonna, u commits the door, that's gonna open to something even better yet, but I, but I think, even now there are there really starting to send more about the human brain that around twenty five and I'm sure I'll, be corrected on this. At this is fixed eyes, but around twenty five. You know before that, your brains, your your identity, as still has a really I mean. I know I don't think I remember it
Billy having with a complete self awareness. Until I was in my late twenties, and maybe I was even early thirties cause, you know it's when you're younger
there was a girl. Only sixteen dry there'll be eighty inventory
twenty one and twenty five of a quarter of a century after that it it's like thirty, then forty
weird, you know space but you're, you're, you're, really kind of you really like it's a magical time for european bodies, gotta be going through a lot of changes.
But not of much needed indifference of up to twenty there's like twenty five. It's like, I think, the frontal cortex or whatever is still in the developing world.
Until twenty five in and you feel like you feel like I feel like.
I've gone through, so many changes not physically, but by the mentally the over the past three four years ago, I am different today that I was when I was twenty to twenty two to twenty seven that fight those five years are, you are still developing and it is your changing in you. You are you get new perspectives on on things and you off of finding new interests, and you start reading things that you haven't read before in all this up and the new twenty seven and twenty six and twenty seven is not that big of a different and twenty seven to thirty. Not the difference become lesson that the body changes less and less in terms of yeah that you sort of, I think
twenty, is a sort of when you figured out sort of the things that you might like to re emphasise that you, where the things at your into and that's probably gonna days, verb quite similar early. No, absolutely! No, if thirty to forty seconds on huge changes- and thus, I think also its with- is terrifying about of his eye from fifteen to twenty. It's it's a lifetime of changes, the ice and twenty twenty five, also a lifetime to changes and then
You got a good man, your label. Will there is a you know if you ve, if physical puberty happens around twelve thirteen fourteen
Did you feel it there's an emotional puberty that happens around twenty seven twenty eight year, whereas what about crisis ducking during the early twentyth? Of course you know because thirty always sounds, you know it to my parents generation, thirty, one
while Europe was dead, you kids just get a walker and integrity out in full by the bed, but
We have an extended adolescence. Your journal,
My generation sort of has extended spoiled extended our lessons, but I think it right before you hit thirty. You also might find
that allows when you're young you of this sort of be friends with everyone here to serve casually friends of everyone. But then, when you're late twenties, you start kind of
you're out of your real identity and the new your started. You start to like shed friends, because you just realized
do you really everything and I think I wanted used, are choosing the biggest.
Choosing your path more. I go on to hang out with these people because I have these interests as opposed to forget about it right. Smokin. Some weird thing out of sheer would forget. You know, Sir Boil it gathers people they just their stay up too late to start to find your little absolute wish, but I found I think I made you again just going back to
what we know about sort of them. The brain development I mean. If we, if we know for certain, then you know you're,
Cognitive reasoning is very much still in development up to twenty five year that pose a sort of a question to how we should treat an eighteen year old right I mean you're you're right, you have the right to vote and not drink. In this country right, but you can die for your country right, but like confidently
not you yet bird you're not fully develop like you're, you know and partially. What's still, development is, like reasoning right end, like judgment control, in all these different things at lake I mean I am because I know,
remember when I started going out in Stockholm in those nineteen twenty,
eighteen, the drinking aids waiting in Sweden we would go out. Would like all my friend we were big group of guys like there would, like should have pre drank said like my place, and we would all like play. Music, get drunk and like every night was just like this amazing crazy adventure of like first volley trying to get into the place was a good thing and then, when you got in your life line the king of the world, you know- and you were drank and was one of the things were like you,
you can eat? And you can't have those sort of party nights again? You don't mean they their support certain when you're, younger and everything is new for the first time and like whatever hitting on a girl, is like the most exciting feeling ever this lot of first ravening, but I was also like we would get drunk and get like rear.
The aggressive you know and that its also it's a weird swedish thing like you, you wouldn't know even think that by we Swedes get really aggressive when they drank, and I don't know if it's a we're so for a polite,
I must sort of law introverted in a sense the like here, that we just get drunk
Everything is just like everything that is holding in future
but I remember any ways that we would go out and so, when you Bobby into Google to go to,
this all sort of testosterone, fucking, neanderthal brain. Would you stick to controls your inner viking yeah, but but it its veto in view the complete lack of judgment control right, like you, would get into fight, sir? You would be a break stuff in lake and inadequacies in obviously drinking sort of hat outlines that effect on our as well as that of enhances this thing that debt, but we're all you also in a weird place in time. Then this was two years ago.
And yes, twenty five and sort of I was out and you have been partying and on our way to like Mcdonald's, to have like get a burger by myself, and I mean we're burgers three in the morning. Just give us of a birth could go
sleep, I'm like standing in line and there you know by the way this Mcdonalds
in Sweden at three M is one of the worst places you could ever because it's just a cluster of it that way
have diners twenty four nine all go. Everybody goes model soon, strong people's all grown people, and it is a lot of people who maybe have not had the greatest
knights and is already the mornings everybody's, like you know, there's a lot of sort of angry drawing people who have you know not be no sort of guts, knobbed or whatever it's been
terrible night they ve had, but I'm standing alone on Burma by myself and there's like a bunch of kids cutting line or something and unlike come on man like I just say something like that in these kids are probably right between eighteen and twenty.
And the guy turns runs up. What did you say to me? I am like honey, I'm sound like upsetting linear guys and he's really would you would you what what what
Wanna wanted you wanna go where will the where all these kind of things Ellen NOME gag? Why weren't big
and he was, I told you to do. Is there a jewel wove you'll, see you'll, see when he was we when you go outside we'll see you won't be, will be talking about the and ten of them. The ten of them were thirteen other
this. An army of of of of puberty, after on driven under developed
raise other all airports in I just go like, and I think to myself on my being that I've been new
Maybe not you write like right. Be I've been dyke,
twenty. In like you go out- and you did this starts out, did the beginning of an eye starts out when you having so much anticipation for the night and energy unlike excitement, and then you
the knife will unite, goes to shed or whatever and you're just really angry in and you want to fight or whatever it is it. I'm thinking, I'm twenty five and like that was going to begin about like being lay twenties. When you start like
aged. Like I thought I told you I'm sorry, I don't like I'm only a couple years ago, I might have been you dead,
If I think I know I was here,
Ok just grab it. How do I know what it was like? That's what I said. Let us out it's! Ok, you look a hopeful, you'll grow out of this as well, and you know the new second, it ass you and I was also drunk but a fully developed
being paralysed. Also rightly so. What am I on the other ten of them, your by yourself, you're gonna, have to go out to the Mcdonald's and get into a cab right. Are they gonna jump? You are you gonna, throw a punch and run what's the best strategic, and, unlike just my caught my front
cortex is just trying to be ass, you know you're not account for the calculation of how you get out of this situation. This modest way butter,
mean com or to my mother, my big MAC, and then I walk out and see them through this guy's there.
They forgot about it. Another Polly find some of them
each other or each other arising was fine. But, but I remember to see, I saw a sort of
shifting me and the clear difference of being that new twenty something a little
at the time, I knew about sort of them the that part of your brain- that's not fully develop yet, but it is clearly isn't and I lived through the shifts right, and that goes to the uniting their says. Something about you know and if you look at-
sort of people being drawn into whatever its any form of extremism like a minimum, NEO, Nazis or sort of world religious fundamentalism, like that happens, a lot around that age of kids being sorted between eighteen and twenty, five right, right and or patriots like this for Blakey,
to war and like all these I'd, like very sort of it, speaks to a young man's brain right that maybe, like oh there's, a lot of different things here that I've maybe would have taken into
count if I was. You really love it. Oh yeah, and it is an interesting thing if you look at it that way, unlike what does it say about how we should treat a judgement of an eighteen year, old and sort of aid,
How are we to use that? You can use an eighteen year old, under developed testosterone, driven brain to become an excellent soldier, friends right that mean that if all of those things are qualification,
that would give the extremists prattling extreme. Like you said, extremism really praise on mad cows, it's like they can really get in there, and I think, if you can, you know
some of these ideas really get woven into someone's brain hardens over its right. That is very difficult to its very difficult to undo that raise its it's almost like new throwing a penny in the wet cement. Yeah yeah,
and it s hard. You can't. I get this part of the area and I think if I would have been helpful if you'd, while you are hugging the guide to say I understand your brain is fully formed yet
is to see that maybe would have taken some of the tension. I guess it's exactly that's how I start just give me a minute, heavily Google tool to put it right,
here's what you bring a couple years. You get a look back on this you're gonna regretted, you're, gonna realize you're being silly numbers here, like the addition to put up the cameras Mcdonald's in Sweden, three o clock in the morning.
See just issued a reality. Shell, oil. Anyone know what it is.
While in bad lay people really do get hurt, I think, probably every every Friday Saturday night, that gets its very, very hostile thing, and I mean it's almost like, I would recall,
tourists to her. I once if you ever
on the right is to see what that's like as it's. It's a weird thing in and
you know you learn about your own culture when, once you left it in a sense yourself, thousands what I grew up with a noose eyesight, you start gods, Mcdonald's at late night, well before you're being a drinking age as well as yet as the only thing that's open. So when you re at House Party,
as a teenager nuke end up at my Donaldson, yet so many panicking relaxes the menu the same or their like other, like swedish faves, I think it's the same, but it's it's better because it's like they, I think they did
It's all swedish produced stuff got over its stages, have higher demands on what there's like the products need to be, or what
I didn't do anything like all of you can get a basket of fish faces us well, its object, the regular current kind of Athens, great databases, so just use, even you say, like you, learn what culture when you come away with, I'm fascinated to because I feel that you have a leg firmly planted in each culture. Can you put a lot of time in the states here? How do you view the United States and or how do you get absorb ice
not that every british forty million people here. So it's not like everyone's America. That might be the loudest voice a lot of the time. But what is this? How do you define swedish culture like when you sort of look at it? What is it
By were feeling that you get her a couple of words that kind of make a stand: Hetty, characterized swedish culture, I think
for someone whose sake never ever thought about Sweden ever it's like, I think, maybe they cause. I spend a lot of time in Toronto, Canada. There I think, there's some similarities
Canadians and sweets and assets, or at least for an American. Its serb need have never left
Erica whatever if they think of the Swedes tend to be very polite in the same way that new, we would think of Kim America's thinks it above Canadians, apologetic and polite and dumb, except it's extremely organise an extremely regulated and like there's rules and people, follow rules and you're not supposed to stand out you're, not supposed to be
me no overly loud, do you should be, should be humble modest, like I'm just left to its everything that I think that that would like to hear it likes
doubts right be loud and yeah doom, and it really is indeed others. There is this. You
that sort of well known for Europeans is that you can always
bought an American in any restaurants, because you can hear them.
And end up if you travel around its second
watch your he's married. Then you can supply Canadians because
have the same access but do not have allowed it amazing, but but but I find that very swedish in so partially like leaving them coming
America, fine, liberating that here, it's like you were allowed to be loud. You know you're allowed to to stand out and be sort of doing. Your own thing is encouraged here right, good breeding go good for you like that. They actually mean something here.
It's a lot of like great job good for you and in Sweden. Never give you do something to stand.
Out or you don't do too much.
The first thing you know like don't stand out too much shorter than for you, but I did for you, but out of hell,
large down. Take it down no, but it really is in you. I think I am
Ok, maybe the exactly what your things
extreme other Andalusia and the others. There's a lot of lessons to be taught with the sort of swedish thing. It's called young Login Sweden in Swedish, like that. It's a name for this thing that you shouldn't stand out so like you, you shouldn't by like, if you just take the example of
through the suburban houses, if you make more money than me, your my neighbour, don't buy in it that the very expensive car right leg right by the Volvo ended it hasn't been so lake and lake. You now have a modestly renovated house, and even if you're, making like big money, never sure you're making big money rang. I also you you shoot you shit you're supposed to serve. You know you have my neighbouring. We were we sort of have the same car. You know it's not that that's kind of where the bars
we hear it's sort of the opposite. It's like make sure that you have a bigger fancy or psychology stuck renovated, got pool, and you know it's like this kind of thing. India, it sort of encouraging
that is the sort of consumerism, unlike you, oh and and then so, indifferent great things coming for a sort of this social democratic perspective of like everybody should sort of be you know, equality shouldn't sort of competing have ever should take care of each other and that its better, if like em, if it's a baron, is better than buddies around the same level here, as opposed to like bragging about money word, but about people might not have it and yet so. That is why we have. It is ingrained in it
culture in sort of in our way of looking at the world is so nice, though it is nice and it s really is in Emmi. That's why I think being brought up in Sweden is, is
so so such a gift for four for someone came not only like for my future kids. I, like I, really want them to do to go to school in Sweden in kind of get that united it it's a very good place to two to learn your value, strain and sort of get a good, a good start, your life of how you judge people and how you look at the world and yet very thankful for that in a year in this, this sort of this extension of its kind of hyper capitalism in America, and if that I'm not against it it it's just you know it actually does teach us like ages. The good for you, you can do what you want is really really focus on what Europe,
I mean that everything that I've ever encourage people to do is both your passion about the problem with like this type of hyper capitalism. Is that if you're, so so so so so dear old thing or so much trying to make your own mark, sometimes I think, whenever ones doing that their that connecting with each other, like they're not coming together, necessarily for any reason, because they're so into their own thing. That is like a nice balance of the two would be nice guy. It's ok to have a nice car, but not at the expense
yeah, you know something. It's like you know that it's all me in fact, everyone else rail and inadvertently social media a completely incorrect
yeah can will incur again strange because long. I think this is also a thing that that maybe Americans all realise as much as as I guess, not Americans view, because the american culture is has completely taken over the world right, so
I sometimes think a question from America. That's what would you already weak is watching in Sweden and look? What do you believe that game around or or
the avenger or whatever. It is it's the same thing rights exactly the same thing or like me
Handmaidens deal like every show. This huge is huge and sweep right, so the culture, and I think that it's the shift has been served during my lifetime. Actually so like
bore. Ninety ninety, unlike in ninety ninety, there was much more sort of globalization, hadn't gone to this serenity extent. Yet
was just barely pre internet, Ria, just like a couple years before internet, and you know those only that ninety nine to two thousand was a massive change and in two thousand to two thousand and ten even more so I just constantly change
we can quivered, but so swedish people not only do like, like twelve year old swedish kid speak for an English. At this point I mean it's truly bilingual country
whereas an eighty year old, my not speak, Gooding was at all right a twelve year old, certainly does a twelve year old place world of Warcraft and shouts and, like you know, web call of duty and
talk, they speak English to their things and there you know there were they wherever keeps duly do make Youtube videos.
Are there, but it's true because I don't know what's happening so quickly, ready to five years, like I don't it's like every five years, as it is a brand new generation, I find you know, live because lake I went to high school without iphones and then I thought came and an interim came a minute cystic this whole thing. But anyway, my point is that they, Sweden, has the past
fifteen years, rapidly sort of when gone towards a more american model in not only politics but sort of sensibility and things of orders to how we view the world politically and in how its changing. Because America has such an overpowering influence on all of the world and it is becoming its is becoming like the difference. It's like it's really hard to sort of distinguish. What is one place in and another in terms of the borders and America's don't realize it, because Sweden is not the sort of
influences Americans all that much, but Americans like to meet feels like almost, which is becoming a mishmash, unlike in twenty years or thirty years, like English, will be a completely bilingual language, probably in most of Europe. Maybe this is your
it is too is to bring Sweden to America, need to bring some swedish ideals to America of some of the shit down. Here I burn he said.
Try to persuade people to do it, but it's interesting aeronaut registered the Volvo deceived them all, just capable with a pretty good
the goal of all, but I think it's kind of interesting see where this conversations gaunt as we were talking about what
happens in your youth and how your brain forms, and then we started speaking culturally and made me realize that in the figure in the sort of
schoolyard of the World America's still kind of a young country, almost kind of it
in age or maybe getting into like twenty twenty one? Twenty two years old, America's brain is still following our report records. I guess that's why work that's? Why
Maybe in a hundred years ago
sorry about that. We had a good time. We bug you know, Yad America's based the drunk. I too want to fight, you know, but soon money. Yes,
the slaughter gold row row row America, nuclear weapon, America, you wanna go where I explained to me in the ideas. I don't actually know what the politicians, but the end of the day, the diet, critical ringlets over the aid with its own separate letters corrected in your last name. The leader is called him alone,
whilst the two dots, that's just it? The little circle is like that. I don't know what I'd do. I think this is a democratic yeah. That's what it's called yeah we'll die critic, as any kind of, if you like,
pull the letter down on your phone and you get all diversions yeah, you got all these, then it's. Basically it changes the value of the changes, the sonic value of the dollar, the vow yeah, but I dont it is. It
it does it hold out. The air sound have pronounced so able to doubts over it,
yeah, ok and then the aid with wonder route, which might Bosnia is or or air, which is
because it's easy were the measures it has taken note, but always harder and harder. One is just over two does over, so that those are the three thousand. We have that you don't, and so my last name in Swedish would be scotch gourd.
Got it. I already ragged scars gas scares Garry their scares here. Is it? Do you?
very forgiving you very forgiving about just going. I can't bother to correct everyone. Every fuckin time is just a part of the Skies Guard is fine. I mean that's how I say it here, yet I think would be knowing if our discharge, that no good
cars. Google score with respect. My I gotta go to shut already, and it sounds sounds funny. It saves again
it's a pirate things scars. Air carriers are perfectly for talking. Pirate really talk about today's dryers, guys, jars guards, Harry's Gardner permitted the ethics, these twenty seven. Now he doesn't like to disturb busies, really become reflective baby. We don't
The treasure we let the treasure comes. We do you know it's, it's exciting, be here, so I mean
when I guess I'm considerably older than you are. But it's nice to hear someone. You don't speak positively unfavourably about about the passage of time in the coming of age,
gender and the excitement. I've been hearing young people be excited about something other than their instagram feed is really refreshing to me right. It's it in a really. I know that's out there we just see some of the world is reflected through the digital.
Age, but it is, but it is, work is I'd. There was a guy last night, my fuckin hotel and I'm not a physical confrontation person, but
The gravest guys man Bonnet beat his face against the lot activated, something very deep and me then I think just goes back to being bullied by despair,
When I was younger, it wasn't even a big guy, but we were in line for that. I was in the lobby, my hotel, and I just I had a peace so bad. I wanna go to my room, so I was, I gotta go in there and they did think there was a guy was in front of me. The back of his head was shaped, but he had a man Barton
probably about your age, and he was talking to this girl and I couldn't tell they were lines like. Are you a life in the bathroom music hebrew? You know just just dunes.
Here and there it was like one of those is giving these shady cheesy leg. I think we should talk using it just like clay. I thought they were a couple
clearly was just hitting on african line, and it was
fucking working in it would really hurt my soul, and he was just one of these guys. He was drunk and it was exactly what you're talking about. Maybe his brain had form yet, but he was
talking out loud eroded. The line you sort of whole hoard pulled in court is like this lines along about just go piss over in the corner, and it's gonna be like you sparking shut up. I just wanted to make. Is this man by like an off, can adjust
was that off his legs, what power this guy down, but he was just so much of that that entered
yeah. She energy that that it really creative rage, and I wish I had the perspective you haven't well. Ok, I can see me. I just it for me
just felt pure hatred was definitely a generation gap. Will this, I think I would have thought similarly even being near his
and I just wanted this girl, the salient like fuck up like you want to say. Thank you. Are you at your courage in there's? This? Is that, even because it is like the whole sort of you, the prefrontal cortex development me there's also like the president of this country,
never was so that the rights of people according to storm or never well, just point a should shooting people the quartet
the losers
standing over until I was looking at his revolver Cortex Sheridan, because he said, look at your buyer. Your motive was issued by another member. It is, I think, I like to think of a guy like low. My best friends landed liberal news on
moreover, I know- and he he here is what those guys
he's a lot about the he's very little romantic guy and always gotta levy which serves spit. We spend so much time drawn together with you. We sky, unlike its nobody, just be no time,
like you were here. He is he's he's a good were really old man's stuck his handsome twenty five year old body. You know he here,
collect vinyl somewhere, like old brown cloth strive. Yes, any second used to be like in the sixtys. We bought a record
that regular than it is
why? Because having someone reminisce about a time they never lived in exile, but even more even like you know before you, a letter slow when you like them in the summits is tat. We can look at me like I do it
We appreciate that the idea and Anita whatever it is. You believe it is now urgent. You discover shit on all like all Lena,
over our time the time we're living in a sort of this vein. Nothing means anything anymore. You don't really pay attention to any
anymore right at fifteen seconds and that's about it and then move on to the next thing in this sort of an ideal it before. You know
in the past peoples who cherish moments, morn, all social, and they all these valid points, but- and I think that's also part of I mean there's a part of every young generation- I think it is always mean people
It is always a will, usually better man. Our time sucks is kind of this right thing that I think every generation feel
We would like in the industrial revolution, but yes, these buildings account budgets.
Hungary's. Why can't we just have dashed large the bars? What are these things will wield?
Does a revolution had stirred up, but but I bet I been and I like, I licked of all the ship was going on in the world today. I think
We live they everyone's July, whose live right now live in the most spectacular interesting.
I'm all time sure just pause for a
think about that right, so we ve been human evolution has been going on since the birth of life right we ve been.
Opting for millions, the millions and millions of years, and us
savings has been around for what they hundred fifty thousand years, justice,
which is the little smidgen, but some fifty thousand years of potential life
right on history and then in an and you have ten thousand years of agriculture and civilization
now might be the most interesting time to ever be alive in the history of mankind. Yes, I mean in its you can make us its strong point, like even the fact that, like the wind
maybe will be the best time ever to be a human right? Maybe my are my children will have veto curfews and like they can only use electricity.
Tween this, like, I, don't know the notion of universal or the per giant, but but- and this is changing, but even that the change, even though
The eminent sort of disaster is excited until you gotta believe I think, like you alive what it is like. I don't know it's like I'm slash legal sickness, I'm so terrified and intrigue
in time about everything is going on. You know, and but little thing like this like flying right like flying to like,
into from New York or from allay to Stockholm, to go to my like a bird, the premier and those for two days and I flew to Boston and then I working in Boston and it's like like? I can be three continents in two days
it doesn't even cost at much. If I read the gates, everybody can sort of afforded. If you have a job you can, you can get a ticket for like back and forth in Europe between three and fifty dogs
misleading, did like one. It's, not even the I'm thinking about that. Unlike this, they fifty years ago, I was on a case like only really rich people got to fly right,
hundred years ago, airplanes weren't around I mean it's in Spotify like I have I have. I have
the music that's ever been made at the need for my finger and it still
to listen to your right. What we're, ladies, you know: netflix or bird struck we're or like you all
different things were or late you can. I can get any book
media, my phone at any given time, it's it's really really live in like if any of you would explain if we would. You know
meanwhile, a phone call lines that here there you know Bob from nineteen o,
here at all and he just area what's going on over there, and he does goes
Can you explain to him Nick? What's what you're dealing? So you won't know why? Don't you dont use? We don't want write letters, you you you face time with your girlfriend,
what you're talking about you. I know you do that. You wouldn't even really have the reference points to be able to explain, Graham what it was
could you imagine legally in his youngest he's off these off to war or he's up? You know
Away on work for months and like every other week
it's a little letter from his girlfriend, or
for whatever and you like, none
like. I literally see my girlfriend all the time
every time I want to
we'll scream and we can have
How do I think that, if anything, what sort of people or
migration or younger generations, just pause for a second I think, like you might
he'll live
the most privileged time enemies,
statistically are without a doubt. There is no question of all time. Yes ever been there, I mean yes, the elixir just passing.
Think about that for a second that, not only are you around too big to be a thing that would you like, miraculous, you also around to be a thing in the best here
water is a pretty return. You imagine how to explain that. I need to know what the internet is like an infinite.
Years can alone with sex started going. How would you explain a meme to someone or how would you explain or whether there is a war with that guy's version of a hipster be like,
Record's cool gives us still listening, no whack cylinders. You know there is no way I would be. I feel it would be difficult even have like. I said the reference points for that person to understand their home.
Go. Lies the world has been another, even you know another, even talking about
It could take you anywhere in thirty minutes around the globe right you just gotta go to the lower atmosphere. You know you can a pair of all. If we go
but then there is an, and if that happens then its, then basically it will become just a true, interconnected local.
At ease, but it is even if it is, it is crazy and and and also sadness,
will we get how fast you know they Lucy had a group had been about
some are complaining about the internet on the plane like they do. They have there's a couple years, elevates whole bit about just be in an airplane yeah
you're fly you're sitting at its air to
feet in the air flying over you do take. We do take it for granted, we definitely do end but about, but it's also- and I think that its also one of you know that the lesson to be learned as well as, like you know, cause you: can you can look ahead sort of invasion in a future where,
like we're, just keeps on getting better and better and like yeah, we solve all these big issues and link cancers. Peered in
they are solved in global warming. Is we know absolve and starvation is gone like this there's a there is like there is the future. The possible future word that this time is not the best time ever right, those like a bull,
if we can get a phone to someone a hundred years from now Lou we would go like,
that is the trajectory that you want right, like that, you're from nineteen Ino seventeen until today
If you would explain live to one of those people are, they will probably be extremely envious to everything that you have available to you at any given time and
I think the lesson to be learned is like because I had their theirs
my worry is that we just we're just I mean word- were borrowing things now, issues that were borrowing the the.
You know in borrowing the environment which, though this is just like we were in debt,
environment like flying being in three different continents in two days. It's just your borrowings time and will suffer
for all this and in the end- and you know that so many things like you
how much we consume them in prison and like the fact that we are able to serve in the western world, live
We do and spend the way we do and all these different things in it. The worry is that like yeah well, maybe not we're. Not maybe it became
hang back their debt, but like that, our children will our grandchildren will in
your way and how will they look at us? How will they look at us being the most privileged people to ever live in the most privileged time of all time,
just being like me and then just like immature Supreme Richard Parental Programme, frontal cortex,
we re in a hundred years that we like man, they had water. Those workers
water, they didn't even appreciate our words, spoken rednecks re missing in fine,
water and somebody water, they had thought Kennedy, we causally what wouldn't things about about being yunkers. Your constantly be feeling rose,
fuck. You old herself were constantly writing Jackson. Relics, Sunday, they'll pay this autumn.
The cultural basis. Up later, I don't know why, but hopefully it
work out. My man, my friend about my friend you that allowed is like that's. That's future means problem.
Whether in future is gonna get outta here,
Yeah me or not, even
paying you ran wherever it is. What a dick you two days ago,
was our idea. What was he thinking or like drunk me? How many times haven't we thought like go fuck yourself, trunk made a serious, and I'm I'm here now with the hand over all the world, like the difference between daytime swedes and nine times,
a baby boy. There were things I wanted to ask you about number one, the castle rock which I'm very excited about, but I was gonna demented. Tell you when I saw you calling
in great Ancona by the way I was that you mentioned me and look at the whole thing was sorcerer
come on it with me. You know that it is important to see that we have just been the premier life can. This was a preface to start by telling you everything worked out. Fine. This thing that happened. It's all fine, but I had what I had. Something happened at the premier.
That is much as I looked with loving the movie I felt so I was so crushed with guilt. You know they had all them. They had others people, they raincoats holding the balloons here, and so their backs
where do the red carpet, so you would walk around the people than you do the recovered and then my wife and I
You know they were like the taxing of the divergences recovered, the most surreal experienced ever. I will never get used to it, but they're, taking single pictures of my wife, zero pictures of me and then, and so one of the principal not in wrinkle just lays down in between us
I think we go to a lot of horror. Things get alot of horror. Maize is worthy of team Parsons up so I just think. Oh, this is part of this is crazy.
That they're doing, why? All these people are gonna lay down still hold. The balloon is had just staring upward. To sort of you know tat. I am
it always played around. So I start stand in order. Like you know, I have my balloon. I brought a red balloon like make. An faces were taken, pictures and my wife Goes- is either he's. Ok and I completely shut her down. I go
is by part of the thing. Don't really I don't want to ruin his. The dance
don't ruin the bills. Just do it. You know, and then, after a minute, it's like always not moving, and so security comes over. This kid had complete he'd exhaustion and they had to like taking away like how old is scared. Probably twenty I don't know they team nineteen
There were lit, they were small right thing, yet it was well, but he wasn't like a child arrived yet he was lay teens early twenties from what I can tell, and I the entire movie just could not something like this poor person. This per person was in trouble. I was because the fact is, I was being a fuckin asshole. There were cameras. Are I thought it was a bit
my wife tried to help them, but I would still like he's fine and then they came over. There are really they got him. You know like they re hydrated. He was ok. I guess this. I kept checking all night on him and they said he hadn't
they. He was in these really hot PLO rage. Tat had any water, so
so, he ended up being fine, but it was.
Such a surreal thing that happened that I didn't know that I just the whole time our legal support
guy's gonna die and I didn't know liner language tat, gazelles loses and adjust. It made me realize that
deep setting of like hey we're all fuckin planet around here I do not always the best defaults, any Julia, but it was not. There was not part of the premier at all, but the movie with so beyond. You know it's a very hard balance, because people
you have the book, and then you have the media series and then this new thing and
reboot down always go great, but this you know what I said about this. I was it so amazing it so much its own thing. You can absolutely still have the other experiences and then this is just a really separate beautiful experience. Yeah yeah that's it
as this is one of those it. It was. A weird thing is when we were shooting the movie meal. You have to understand that this is such a terrifying undertaking for me like getting the job
I've decided, oh wow. No, oh my god. It's like I! I knew that there was in. It was a very highly anticipated the demeaning series like traumatize Sweden, like so many
by girlfriends livid older than me, like, like all of like the airline that movie dislike thousand movie, that everybody talked about, so it spread all the way to Sweden major way in it? It was such a big thing and in the interests of patients for the remain was huge and when we were doing in so as I was due to their as points you know, the first step, which is it
focused get the job right over the whole process of re. Looking it then, once I booked anaemic, I got the job I knew now sort of in this same, like the gravity, overlying you're gonna be good cheer gonna destroy like all
People of you and you fools and even try
thing you and you're just gonna, let everybody down in all these different sort of creeping little fears that are at that strongly at night, and I am about when we were doing it in the others. I had my way of for dealing with that, instead of putting our diet, I had to put all that aside and just being my bill make the clown that you would want to see enough and I'd like
your twitter, by right about that. But that was really what I fell down like there's gonna be people he you
hate, your performance, but there might be people the love, your performance, ensure dude for them and do for them alone, and I don't care about what other people might think of new and and and do like what. If I was sitting in a theater, what would I respond
like that, make you know for the people in the audience war like me, you know and make it for that sort of thing. You know- and I think that's all,
to believe the lesson of any art in that you do as I do it do it so that you'd like it right, so that you.
Proud of it, and then, if someone goes like other shit, all were in different opinions.
The livelihoods of vat rates that I think is a fax alike in an endeavour to deliver its. If you make a job or even the like, that's that's what I wanted it to be, and then some of those that shit negro. I will agree to this.
That's in their strength and that confidence in that? But anyway, when we were doing there is like you know, there's I've I've been working as an act of war.
Eighteen years, while so I democracy when I was nine and in so many different Phil sets in so many
tv shows and veto or accrues, I mean rent in different parts of the world and you you there's an energy to this different energies and you can sort of sense of the collective energy of what you're doing. Sometimes it's very much I clocking clocking out your people lived in job because crew members
they they work. They don't really care either they work every day under their object. If the movies shit the days they'll get pay mediation and the crew members, the entire crews, like they ve, noticed a job for them and then at times you can feel and energy of like the crew, like everybody party of this crew here fields were making something and Pr Berlin and more excited about this,
being than than then maybe there d be no late, they aren't on on any other project an hour. Doing
shooting in but the kids and everything, and I did feel this energy is at creating a beast here.
Something that sort of thing that's clicking yeah, but never said it.
Couldn't. Unlike events, if I say that what we are doing here is something that really working. It's like, I was literally waiting for the crash
I was we'd like things were, going really well and the energy and what we were doing in the excitement and like a set of crew members were that, while this is
special like we're doing something special making something special here then I felt that, but I couldn't accept it because I was afraid those gonna jinx every well yeah, and if that, even if that, even so much
How do you think it's so much about ginseng as it is once you become aware that something is better
like your brain operates in a different place in your not present any more and its yeah? It's just that's it. That's an interesting, that's a really interesting skill to learn, which is to be present when you arts, when your body is telling you like all look at this. I know I can't go out. Look at it from that point of view.
To be oh, have to be it. It absolutely aiming in when you're doing it you're you are, but it was also posts they after we ve done it when we were wrapped in after, like you yeah all my work was done. It was still this object. I think, and I saw you first cut of the movie.
Thank you, but at the same time, unlike
no, you know like I just I out
always waiting for them. For that that really big bad to happen or really this can't be. It can't work. You know, since it wishes a weird thing them
he came out and people really liked it so much. He was like a hooker,
as a final Europe. I'm so haven't I arrived. I do think that it, like you, said it's such a testament to the Andean Barbara. You know and everyone who everyone who was involved in making this film
from the prosthetics and causing the sign in everything that, like it so hard to do this, to make something to bigger remake or a new adaptation of something that is so cold. Surely you know people have such a clear thing of what it is, and I penalised was not only from the book but from TIM cares performance and if such an iconic thing already writer,
do it in the minutes, it almost always fails in almost always does really does, because there are some things where you just scope,
I didn't really need to remember that it was fine the bright eyes, but I think you can really tell the difference between something. That's remade, because a marketing person said we should we make this and something that's remade, because someone says I have a very specific, unique vision for this. That I think, is special like the coming from a creative cycles. It really was, it really was its old world and even our starting to fin.
Part about it at the premier, any said yet encouraged us all. As I said, the thing that fascinated me so much as the first of all tunnel F bombs from thirteen year old, which is great taxes, but is it possible
Fuck, you guys talk. How I talk right. There was nothing the folks drifted about. He said you know, you know they made us all. Hang out
either? We all actually became friends, and we got to play around
river around a lot and yet yeah? You know I was the kid there was making thirty day
hopes a minute right around my friends in so I really even just from even if it was just that's right.
Not like this movie is undoubtedly also there was an authenticity, Julia and obviously the best movie balance, don't jump out of it
ago, where I'm all scary rights, the ones where you can feel that there's an emptiness and then that you can reason with or torture that it's just like you can you cannot.
Draw this thing. This thing is gonna keep coming for you, no matter what, because it doesn't reward reason with
anyway, but it, but from top to bottom you guys did such an incredible job, and I now I'm excited you noted at the premier when people is suffering was sitting next to us and he was like
because your. Where do you think this gonna go like worried? The active already talking about the next movie right, which is you know, that's a big deal
yeah. I mean it's a huge challenge and I mean it just because I want to act even give more credit as a tool to two Andy in how he treated and worked with the kids, and I think it's a lesson for in a sort of how's brought up, and I think it's a lesson for anyone who has kids it's. He always treated them with respect and treated them like any other reactor sure. So he at once, whenever they had to say he listened any major to listen to them. You know what was your idea and and and encourage them to to express themselves express what they thought about the scene and give them he really enforced like their sort of confidence in and in performing and dumb in return. These kids
not kid surrounded by adults. They were actors right, surrounded by by their Peters reference and and and the kid you know they were so free. There was no one knew no hierarchy of like need. They couldn't do or say anything they were. You know, Jack Razor was doing bill, clasping, proteinaceous yeah, you know and like off, like between takes on a simplicity, destiny, something like a little comedic
any. I fear, but there are saying they were allowed to be who they are fully right. You know there was,
Like all you can't say that I can't do this. They were being kids and within that they could. Their true potential can really shine through yeah, and you know it was. I dont think it was for that medium and the other there we're all gonna have a really great careers out of them and they're gonna see there
be a lot of different production where it's not like that, but where people tell you how to do it to say what to do and veto serve undermine you just for being a kid and right, and I felt that I, like I, was a kid actor be known and and and always infuriated me ass. A kid is lacking. Why Kane? Why aren't you not listening to me or like the sort of way of tree
kids, ass kids, know treat them as little human see. Owen was invaded minds of their own native, their working under their professional and yours,
treat them like Bulgaria, you meet you know: did you meet? Keep your hanging out at the park with your kids, music at all. You know like maybe maybe like, maybe that, but if they are, if there are high, if their professional people yeah then treat
professional I did, but I think I mean, even even I think you should treat Europe Europe, your kids, I gotta, don't like, I think, serve hierarchy and authority in which is a cultural thing as well, which is much more pronounced in America, is bullshit. You know like they visit. Authoritative figure in parenting is like me, not your parent Europaea, the parent of course, you're gonna be an authority figure, but let the kid be like listen to your child and write like encourage your child to be who he is and light, would listen to them and ask them questions, and- and even if the
the most absurd things they kids do about, whatever they have thought about his book. Good, that's good temper had avoided, please
and I saw him doing that and it is to the kids in and outside it. That's the he's doing some. These he's really. You know sort of letting these kids raw talent be encouraged in a beautiful way. Have they already.
Started talking to their swords on UK, while we know where to go back and shoot in twenty eighteen and were already and to get back into the wall that mean that it's all boogie adds some time next year and working on a scrape now, and I hope that we can examine. I answer to buy good collaboration, and I see it the second one. Ah, there's a lot of time
is to the second part, I think mainly that the kids are not in it really right.
It off their all adults and the kids, I mean that the strength of the novel is the kids did so much. What the story is is kept. The kids and even the that the part of the kids being adults is about them being kids, Russia. They try to remember all of the things that happen when they were children and it is almost there. They know that their adult and they get brought back together and they need to figure out who they were ass, kids or have they never got to really let go of the level of their energy children innocence yet and
The book is told you know these two storylines back to back so one chapter adults once average kids, so you're reading it and you dont know how it's gonna end for either the children story worthy adult story. Up until the very end we ve already told itself in the town story in the first movie. So the second movie, you can't just tat- do tell the same story, but
adults right in it? You need to really export different thing here we go again. Will it's? What did? What did we do in the first movie that if we get this right, we were here ever be freed up every other back in his sister and in their like, I was having the town in Europe. Have a confirmed, walking dead stuff
So I was having dinner last night with a troubled walking dead. People in any Lincoln had seen it and he loved it, and he said and told the adults was so brew.
Almost identical yeah, you know like they were all kind of monsters in their own way, music yeah, but you know it's because they were all dealing with what date
in twenty seven years ago, so we just had a full conversational like what they saw. This movie might have also been a sequel to what the what those adults
child hooray was their Chinese. But if the premier fade and all the kids were talking about like they're so funny here, Billy
who would play us of their turnover who played him, and I think I think
one: the award for best casting award for Finns character as an adult Paul run
their poor I'd, give you money
he's. A maze is amazing. Lover said
Giovanni gonna look. They were kind of similar. This is getting a brown contractors and I really want to thank the council when people cast someone.
As an older wanted, a different course. It always at what why? What would you think TAT now
but I've worked on things where they do not dare not. What does not bother that they did not know. There's like a brown eyes character than theirs blue eyed kid
worse day, every Europe but yeah emulated? It's gonna be such a complete different experience for me like working with like forty year old actors,
I do not mean, as opposed to the kids like? I am the only like it's gotta be in completely different.
Regions and I am looking forward to it and I think you need. I wanted to talk to the eight new collaborate with Andy. Is her figure out sort a few things and I think we could, I think, there's I think, there's a lot of potential to make something. I think it has to be different so and that this is a thing that I,
so when, when you have a really successful movie any you want to make the sequel to it. There is a lot of producers and money. People that just go will didn't work
these, do more of that, and it does not do that again and they like they, really want to make that the exact.
The same movie because they know that that will be worked right and I think that that would be the biggest problem in disaster for the feet. Did the new movies second they're trying to make the first one and we have the first,
one and its than task gray with special, because without because it was that movie, and I think that those who cause version is the sequel that something else
Let this be Jeanne, you get them I'd like the obvious. It is still the same characters in his destiny of the crown and everything. But it's like. Maybe it's at its adults tat it can be darker, could be more psychological, there's a lot of different things that could be, you know, played and explored. So he could look like these both of these movies, indifferent as different movies. But
separately as good things yeah- and I had a funny to hear you say that, because it goes, it speaks worthing earlier about trying to recapture youth in most signals a pilot, Steeple semi gone, hey, what's up other kids, a really great exam
That is, you know. Russia
he made has a thousand courses. The devil's rejects was a completely separate, yeah honour of a movie, and so I would love to see sequels experiment with, like John Rehab right with you right that that, even if it fails it's like boy, you fail
on John you're old term, trying to do something you didn't it didn't fail, because people were like yarn, I rise
as I think it is also as it has an obvious member. If you go look on it to its chapter to Angola, wow lousy,
backing that under this lake, that's an exhilarating feeling when Sweden movie surprises you and me, I think eminence-
is it being. I think the EU should be more open to it as well and sort of in January shifts in his equals or like kind of exploring different things and not try to you view. Sequels is not compare, necessarily need to compare them to the first thing. Is it going to know the movie sent you know, and that takes too because ultimately, if the audience is encouraging that we will lose
money people sort of intending to be more willing to two voices that many people are scared and and and money people. You know they dont date they if they think creatively its riskier for them to think creatively with what we have done.
Jobs and prosperity as what money we have theirs
formula the formula, but but then both the time-
and maybe the formula works more than I realized what I feel like most of the time shit works when some sort of creative vision
yeah and that all the money you know just do that. Go right now, just get someone else to make their own
vision at all. Have another kid did his arm bitten off
would we
that is another story.
Georgie. This is Georgiou. Georgie, always older cool rain had eyes like fucking, snow Reynard, beautiful the people and on the other side of the street reaching and on the other is, is even the same if you like the right hand and said o Brien painters like a baby, but I blessing on ask about his castle rock because the if we really does
We have just seen the teacher for it, but it just it seems to be this mega. Stephen king, you no universal, like battle of the Stephen King STAR,
yeah it's kind of a thing, I'm looking like a wilkes navigating, I know different names, so I saw that teaser before I even before they reach out to me about the project whatsoever, and my friend was like hey bill.
Look. It's gonna be like tv version of penalize. I thought I'd like yeah yeah, but as thousand that's than I thought it was weird
nuke is penalised as a good title in the regular teaser and unlike the earth. Why are they doing like that? It's gonna be like up another version of Pinta. Kittv varies like us
and then they reach out to me of true just like for an audition, are interesting and like no
I don't I don't wanna, I'm not interested in it like I am it. I'm petty wasn't deceiving King movie gotta get on really like also, and they say,
Davis, producing about who about their super secretive, let loose and script. You can read it and, like all thing like us, apparently everything a star wars.
And you don't
like you know, and thousands of thinking about it,
monsieur like an owner referred
they haven't you. Why was were there was, can be so associated with penny when if anyone is gonna be in it, and I am going to play a character than pay rises in the show and unlike you, they re the whole thing,
I and then they sort of like cable modem reads
I know you have to say that you have like twenty four hours or retail miserable like super password thing that anything and I read the script villa while this is completely unique and its own thing in its great and then I'm met with SAM Shaw, Anderson, Thomas in the very short on earth, and just like I read the script, it's great. What's the shall ride like that that this, the pilot? What is it and they sort of talk to about their vision
what they want to do with it and an end. Our seas in the room decide men get angry, I know is that I saw a complete shift and I told them, unlike wall, so I've been worried that it was going to be so associated with it in and they were like. The other teaser reserve,
I didn't make much just listening to you. I desire you Betty Wise, and these are you not live as they will? You know it's, not it's a complete everyday
so- and I do not want to be sure- I just you know I I want to make- and they were like- will reward sort of. I'm not sure if I am allowed to say this, but there were the word were deliberately sir, not
because it is such a phenomenon and I wanna make their own think good and am, and it's you had set in council rock witches dairy is is penalizes in Derry Main and cattle rockets is, is also a name and it's another fictional town of Stephen Kings, and so there's characteristic do appear that if you know his world it there's, but the story self is original new story and, like I'm, not gonna go into any of it. But it's it's really good. I mean the script. The first pilot.
Was I was so entry and is one of the things were because it's the star worse there every day we I you know they ve been very secretive. Even for US actors, and I mean we're on episode. Five now and I've read episode. Six like I up until now, sir. They gave me this the full run down what actually happens in the in the end, but before before, like the first four episodes, I didn't really know where I was going because they were so secretive about it and there was a recent from my character. Didn't need to know, got on and there's a shifting than he needs to know what happens I hadda, thereby
yeah? I guess it was seven guys it's very secretive, looking to find their way to know what we're doing what he would do.
I love this even kings, basically presenting this idea of main between Darien Castle Rock and Bang remains means,
fucked up the ad hoc, bandoleer murder activity and an end, but anyway, subject get working on it now and it's like I'm every script, economic weight to fucking, fine now what's happening, it's so mysterious. It's very true to Stephen king in in three minutes. In essence, its dark suited the district of Weird Stephen kings of dark absurdity, which is very true to it in, and I really think that owns well. The sinking ever know has become out, but I
I really think that it is. It's gonna really carry that Stephen King essence in it, in a in a new original story and
I'm really excited about. It, unites it's, it's a fun thing and it said: unravelled, loving the character and playing its very different to penalize and amusing completely different things better.
But he's creepy when you think about some time next year
half way we're halfway through the shooter and a friend of mine just said. Do you know I, for whatever reason
rare, that I go to the movies anymore because of my work schedule, unless the premier, but not like our legal provisions, is just like I can. I am conscious to schedule those in and on the weekends
with rare than ever, go have been workin all week, but I'm gonna go get in the car and park and go see a movie even though, what's up there, I love it. So I knew I really want to see atomic blood, but a friend of mine, to sought news. I just thought twice: yes, that fucking good yeah yeah, that Taiwan is fun. I mean it's, it's it's if you're into action, it's like is as good as it gets like. This is Charlie Stern. Radiating is the only way like just to how surely Scandinavia,
and just being the shit out of these great I mean I don't know, I just take the. How like a hot bad ass accuracy is being the shit out of guys they fit ass. We need more that I will take it up enough of your time, but figures we have pleasure. My things
It was great though it was, it was so nice a meagre, and so I was trying to add Conan. I was trying not to you know like fan out too much on you, but we just absolutely
you in the movie and and I'm so excited, and just having spent some time to like now like before. I appreciate you as a performer dynamic. I really liked it
we're gonna do great that guy, I gotta do great thinkers if you're overcoming overdose. Sweden. No, have you I'll? Have you for dinner literally like next?
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