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going on, but this episode is Korea, Taylor from Slipknot, who I didn't know before, and one of our workers Debbie was like you, gotta Korean he's, really great ok and he was fucking awesome. He was awesome, might do in my favorite guess remember he was super funny and just like mega nerd knows his action figure. He knows his actual figures and he's a good, solid, dude Slipknot to album point five. The great chapter is out now and they just had there festival that we not that's not where they could unless they couldn't burn the poop you camper improve, but a further area gonna have you ever had any idea. Dawn was gonna. Be burning. Is this you can enjoy their for the festival, but the town said no well, so everything but yet really well yeah! I'm very very, very

happy to an end. Now now I know what what a great guy as he will definitely back on the broadcast at some point whenever it feels like ass man, I mean come on it. I got Master Chief Junior with us. There is a different thing it in that this house is not at all it's. You have a different idea. I do love Slipknot them. No just slip, not slip it another none of their lives, they're, not the swift eyes left nuts serpentine, that's not at all just an improbable group, Conan bid it slipped with listener. Every year. Is every slip on net or exactly what they do? Women slip, John Glaser, a sheer, isn't it I think they did sketch mystical one guy. I missed the way you Dario now that now that we have drifted into a real thing was rubbing the whole time. I've got my reference, no good. Well, ok,

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Thank you. I know you just flew in and came straight out one missing this. What we're? Where were you just in Vegas? Ok, we have asked days now into mine, so cannot come about by that. You could not have two more opposite. Environments is think, really think yeah it's my wife's families is based are vague, is, and then I still have our sentiment is my ok you're my sense dollars there in my grandma lives there, so we just gonna hop back and forth in own just dismissed as we stay is far from the strip humanly possible. It's ridiculous. I know that you know, like dollar listeners in Vegas, get really annoyed when we're when when we when we presuppose that Vegas is really just yet,

Yet there are a lot of actually a lot actually much more Burbank than is the eyes yes very flat out, like a lot of suburbs, a lot a box community Spock. You know one of my favorite punk rock bars the double down salute. Yes, this ridiculous. I ve never been there without seeing a brawl. That's probably again, Viagra back, yeah, it's just a fuckin the Wall Sweat, let's put it thou at its pretty boogie. It's just you know it's just this run down dive bar that, like puncture metal heads gonna, took over yet and its retirement. At one time I saw a ban playing and then the ban when it goes and Van kick a table than a big fight, so to break out with the guy in a more people jumped in, and then it was the skies another bomb with his friend, and he knows the broad going on and it gets up calmly and then goes to pick up a chair and then the guy he was sitting like season, runs from going like what are you doing? What are you

rose goes like your right and persistent like the duties like ease uncomfortably wants to get in the pit and JAM Asha, so he category stretching like and then rights are valid. It's not like you know. I've always known again. This barford amateur stretched out require actually make a lot of. What does that guy's I'll be right? There just got it's. I don't wanna tears, although just the pre break dancing move a step back, I actually, I think, all the things that Vegas is very famous for the things actually don't like about vague Jeff, but when you'd, but I but I have been off the strip quite a few times in Europe, it is like a nice pretty jail medical but it, but it is the you can tell that much like

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I mean I r l render. But what is what is occupying most of your time? These days is then, I mean it's gettin, none of the wire now, so it's yeah me word doing rehersal albums it's the promo, for it is, is really going well, so we're stoked about that were stoked about the excitement for it. You know all of size. We ve been kind of all the size we ve been kind of releasing here and there to just build excitement for it. I just saw pictures of the ridiculous set. They were there doing on. Oh, my God did its. If somebody is in crack their skull complete open the second AIDS hustlers, like your words like I could cover on the first day, you know I'm just gonna go in bed on day dear someone's gonna walk away with a gaping head. What made you decide? This was an undertake.

That you wanted to go to the pain in the ass to put on one show our yet so why? How long is the festival? It's it's? Obviously, it's technically it's three days but were headline into ok, we're doing a pre like a pre weekend party on Friday, Saturday days, I think he's gonna deed, spin out and do some stuff. We got bans that are actually playing that night and then the actual to the Everything starts sought Saturday and Sunday, so we had long one night and then the second night, and so in its. Essentially like I don't have you noticed like Download in England, yet we are trying to real recreate that now, because we got killed being we got Arby's like set up and we sold passes for that would like three day like we can passes and from got rides. We got fire eaters. We got this thing, that's got. What is that thing? The fire dome that

the terror down with wrestlers inside of it nice ridiculous. A flight plans, girls, like mad max, meets the doubly Debbie like it looks ridiculous right saw pictures. I like we need a lotta got that now are the other rights really say warrior, thou, no garden. These rights make these rights makes lake the they may like our normal carnival, seem like six wags, these third tier gang in air, we're bringing in one that is actually from the irish State Fair and we all kind of grew up going to the Irish State Fair and the one right that we all look forward. Writing because we knew would make a sick, but this thing called the ring of fire and all it is really is just it. It's like it's a perpetual rollercoaster based it just just that's all it does, is we're bringing that in the current like. If

selling, booze and fried foods. Was there no you're throwing up on this right? So it's in the movie big, that's that their red! Namibia, is it's just a circle yet always present when it stops at the time, so you like ever work. You know forty people got thrown off the ring, a fire and not best yeah yeah yeah. That's actually it's a word. But what is a waiver? And You know what you're getting so you I mean. I mean there's a lot of a lot of really cool stuff that you look and because we want to make it exciting. You know it seems like people put on festivals disease in it's just kind of the same rather than mill. You know mediocre like yours or bans, there's a thousand of them with nine different stages. Oh by the way, all twelve, the ban that you want to. You're all playing its time and you're. Just like really, you know

we want to we weren't shake. It is like, if you're waiting for abandon you know that you want to see you go check out the rise of China. We have, I think, we're doing repelling line which really go. I'm actually gonna go. Do that hangs item middling one. Yes, I mean we're just trying to make something: cool for us. You know that for the metal fans for the hard rock fans, you know it's gonna be an annual events. Do you think I don't know? I mean people keep ass like they asked me that they asked me if it can be a tour, and I think it be it be closer to like an annual that in our work and we can do it in like three or four different cities give us time that we can move everything there. So everyone gets to experience it when you put it, when you make a tour, then you'd limiting yourself, there's only so much bring with you, because it's gonna be it so not cost

fact, is to bring all that crap with you. So I think if we make it a destination like differently bigger cities, you know and interest make it different cities every year than it might make it a little more exciting sprinkle. Thirdly, Arend Fair for thrashers, Basically, I urge everyone to wear their poet shirts, please not no cross awry. Every time someone addresses the girl, it's just it's bad, holding cell phone they bring a crow had picked someone's faith, it's very difficult. Crow! Please! You don't have that much time. Ok, bring falcon vine sport, king, the grip of a thorough is: do you just met it rots and lines here? You're, not incarnate old three ridiculous, so you grew up in Iowa, then is this true? For the most part, and then at what point did you decide?

I can get out of here and do other stuff. Oh, I tried that I'd. I tried I've moved away from doing so many different ties and moved to bigger cities. Thinking that better music scenes It's our odds by its great started being here, and it was always terrible like I can't the Denver. In ninety five was one of the worst music scenes at ever. Seen in my life is divers cut israeli Valley, bad, really, not that's not good at either like this weird goth atm thing or like a really healthy countries I couldn't find my spot in their eyes. Nothing's really changed twenty years. I am so rednecks that their huge yeah yeah ready. You guys get huge or you can go to boulder bolder and in plenary flip so my arrival, Jammer Yeggman flowers, it may be

If so, I move you know, so I moved around. I moved away a lot and I just kept coming back to deploy in it's weird. You know, so you know call it whatever. To be honest, this there were so many strikes against Slipknot to begin with. That ended the gist of the no one's more surprised by our success than we had. I not Ruth, mean if just by run I mean nine deeds in masks cover all playing crazy, heavy metal music from I, yeah. They draw that up on a play and there is no way you know. So. We were convinced that we we're just gonna, be we're gonna, be like a lifestyle, bad, you know we'd, maybe cell two thousand. We be able to afford to go out to her and then we went platinum than we would double platinum and by the time I what came out it was approaching three or more like what is going on people. What are you doing ass, regular, so yeah man? I mean it's weird

You start out, it's like you want to make music, but you have this idea of the type of music you want to make, and then it completely goes one hundred and eighty and it's like wow. This is not the stuff that I have stuff that I ride is usually more stone sour side of it with Slipknot. I really get to do so many different things that I mean the skies. There's no limit to it how much of it do you think I mean? Obviously, will you freaked out by the success at all, like oh shit, that we can't fuck this up? Ordered it did you I mean you can obviously at a certain point, do you say you have to make the choice between. Why really want to write this kind of sound, but I think that certain audience are probably prefer this kind of sound. So I can't I gotta service that well it's it's funny, guy. That's honestly, one of the reasons why I ended up putting stones our back together, because that was my being before Slipknot in deploying so I you know we had done the first look not album than we did Iowa and I was just like me- I just wanna dues,

mother stuff? You know I'm in a was really supposed to be aside thing. You know that we would do and have fun with it in it than that got even more serious, but I think that showed that I think that opened a whole other audience to what Slipknot could do, and maybe we weren't comfortable to do yet. You know then, and that kind of encouraged us to do vine three, but I mean there's really no limits with this band. You know and

one of the cool things about like this new album there. So many different like there. It sounds like us, but word were branching out so many different areas that I mean there's one tune that starts out. You like where's this going in it than it completely goes somewhere else, and we can get away with it because our fans no to expect the unexpected now yeah, that's always the best. When you can get to a place where it's like, it's, I think, lay the sitting with basic weasel was never able to figure out where it's like they wanted to go off and at first the fans than a let em and yeah. They ve been trying to chase that any kind of get confused. What their sound his words like. No, when like people, just like put their trust in, like I like these guys. I gather doing, and I trust if they do something different it's because they want to do it and that great may we dedicated ourselves to the idea that if we were gonna, if we were gonna, get together and put something out and call it Slipknot music that it was gonna be quality is not just about quantity. It's about quality. You know so, and I think the fans realise that, even with all that

the other, the ups and downs and we ve had they know if we put something out and were getting behind their like ok out once again soundly yeah. Isn't it you just never know with us? Are you getting ready at the other radio stations now that service, your auditors still jamming, there's still a pretty healthy act of rock radio the chart- I guess and satellite re as satellite guys. Definitely that's our realm. You know between octane and liquid metal at me. I get a lot of play on their, but then I mean it's a mean lot at some of our older stuffs get played on. Ninetys it none. I blade years said that last ninety perpetrating no you ve made it out. Could you well I will now have in common.

Why does the same thing? We're like it's like you know you have to take its own without you I'd, rather than as a back up. Is it to people who should not be together and yet and yet and by the way, the guys, the guy, the vocal innovation that shows people they saw a night in thirty cinematic carnival at all up. That's very l, jewels, and so they desire was to be a cop. Please go. They both like this movie, so that their common ground, if one thing, can keep these two love birds to get here. It's a racist reform. Cyber airy raised this idea of arms one time in black face and a curse. You know like a black based, but a lot about breakfast activity. That's why face had a white faced with weapons.

I got you up. I was very upset about oil. We iq rowers IRA. I can't remember, but they re read it because it's like now, that's like its nineties out. That's like you know, twenty years or whatever like gone, you could play like. So it s all right. Next to breakfast activities. Words like that's like we're to us, because we were there, but if I'm listening to like a sixty station, they pay. Let's up and right after Ex Ante, ensure you ok here like exactly the nation. Falling music culture where its we came out of values and albums and because became a singles Yasser, or even all these radioset, like the best from the fifty sixty seventies, eighties and beyond yeah? What's beyond that one? Eighty two What are you working with the cut off like like the world it operating I'd like that's all you, although I gather that, like the all these house now too, it's like they have to act like they were. Like a fool,

Xavier played this wards, arranged societies that seventy. I mean what's great. Is that all the different decades on serious exam gap? The DE jocks basically have a persona that they had so that, like the seventies guy, scanning the nice guys here we are, you know, I'm a new wave of richer blade, kids every word of God. It's really, then the MTV Bj's just sound like their stoked, but she's not is Nina black word. I love her, but she just said she's like I can't wait to cut this together. So I smoke another Yasser guys, like you, were still sound, that's why he does work. You still loves the music yeah heavens, I had failed

Oh yeah, oh Penfield is like that. I worked. I worked at MTV with Penfield GAB, like that. Guy was cyclopean. Raise the music mammy like he was kind of the internet before Internet homestead sperm was crazy here, like it's like. I was in areas of him and he remarked we also of like Rawlins and even doktor demented where's. This these guys, I just go: oh yeah that Ankara cannot nineteen. Me was on the peace I was, you know they could just cyclopaedia memory tat, that's crazy out! God you mention Doktor Minto Asia, publishing their every Sunday odd out, like an on westward one radio yeah, they would play it in live at Waterloo. Iowa, so is like the best two hours of my life. So what do you mean, No, you not need to cover fish heads, I think now you know what we need to cover, they learn y know. I already did a cover. The oh dear,

did that a long time ago, nets at our outright music first stone sow up as really We did there's this there's we looped this kid say I have always thought that Slipknot should cover three songs. One Singapore by Tom waits too what wouldn't held the name of the sites T bone exercise, just a guess such a blows, his eyelids bathing sites. Some girl was like you, powers, a table which is ridiculous. That was on the document twentieth. That, of course, reality and yet I am- I was assessed that remember like I, I heard this and I wanted to learn how to play your hair. Just like a big, weird songs, I get we're. Thinking goes he's like it's all, really random in any ends up going in and telling the story of wizard of OZ. I was on a quest losing Mademoiselle Julie, Le Loup, we believe will be all around me stay

and they said that recorded that, like in, like one take lags in some like there's no way, there's no way did say that yet that's all of whose take its human and acoustic tar and then just them playing with these crazy vocal. I would like to build answer did dead puppies entering kick the clown. What my foot, but I fucking love dead, puppy, so much because it builds to this industry is everything. Nicholas Crescendo incorporates in Ethiopia just taken the silliest idea biggest extreme invest wide and it is a mom says puppies days or going to throw him, I'm like you can play, but they don't. You think, she's bulls at all levels.

Marge ears. Here's a fun fact what we want. What was your third before your phone factories that you're gonna cover three songs allocates ok, what you're funny guy memory, ok, fun! Fact tiny TIM used to live at the holiday Inn in Timor in Iowa. He lived there for like thirty years. Let me yeah said that he had the penthouse in this holiday. We have ten thousand. They ripped there used to be a big deal. You guys lived in the book, sure why rightly stated already in Eden, Perkins that was a big earlier. What are built for bottomless cups, here, you know Perkins Perkins by day been against by night. So I like to look at the goods Breakfast Perkins everyone's while you to bigger square for some late, you know like a bit late. You wanna area here is a need to take the edge off this gave me. I'm gonna have like to pieces

So, if you have internet on my heart is again the grossest they once at a Perkins. There's a bunch of us we're at a show. In Greenville North Carolina and then we went to occur, After all, as you do like it's, a rural post show caught emeralds costs, whether any of them- and I we were all like eating a ton of cars. Like it was like some few girls at our table grass away- and I told him which was to send them like a bull of cherry like when they had one of the judges and the like when they looked over there like hey crust, but the cherries assuming TAT there were these rules of legal age without a doubt, Evans eyes they always best. I don't know, I know the obvious one. I didn't really think about it at the time I was still a virgin look and seventeen like that. Europe is a fact:

Please help me Then they their faces as ducats we're taking you I'm just a kid. You could look like a man, but what it you get a pink card for the yeah? No great story had it been of your thus virginity at a Perkins Greenville North Carolina? Yet I would better a bit, but everywhere you go we like you, don't I used to do the college circuit. It's every time, has become the same town yeah. Now it's the same. It's the same It'll honeycomb of you know why Applebee's Peter Talk about Starbucks like every tells a business partner. Has it there's a random chick fillet in there somewhere, yet usually building something behind us get we're getting a lot of business. Was that hotel innocence I got a new place.

There's a line down the block guy exactly what what what what cities are gems on the road for you, if you like, I never would discover this place if I hadn't been abandoned, wintering man you give. The weird thing is that for the probably for the first six yeah, probably the first six years of my career, it was just bar I just remembered bars like new ideas. Like oh yeah, in in Kansas City, we go can. You give us free drinks to whatever, but then I quit drinkin as the UN can start again, you're my shit back together. Now I remember all the the comic shot, that, a global and users of God there really cool crusty old, because I collect all that

figures as well as so. It's always gotta have like a thing. We are on the right to live like a guy like that, but then, by the end of the tour you just have rates of a year ago, the modern day never mind. Forget her guy we're gonna go get. It could see the other customers killing my memory, you quit apologize. What's what are you well and then you get all this stuff. Then you get back home. You like our now. I gotta figure out what a lot of waste, but I didn't I have. I have fifty moving boxes from Eu Hall, stuffed with action figures that have been collecting since ninety two. Basically in it they can. They go all the way back like I've got some super old ones. My coup was the first year and what the comecon I I my eye was like there's two things any defined and it was the one was the the Godzilla that they were released with the Chopin warriors

found that, like that, I would like to use in the box, wasn't very damage still at the terms for the first time that we have yet that little in Albania, look anything like the new one and then the alien figure that tenor released and, like seventy nine eighty it was actually complete, set actually had the poster in it. Like I was kind of shit and balls because I just I was going to buy one if it was just loops, they had all they had. The whole thing was a thing about that thing. Is it doesn't hold up because it that the arms that they cannot get into this Lovely deafness as regards great. It's fuckin, marionette Miata put some strings on and it can do little puppet show. I ve tried like twigs in making all eyes were already yeah. If I leave it anywhere near my son, he'll tear the head off of it and he's dwells on

we are worried about their heads and you get a lot of good kiddo. This thing. I, like his guests, were both Canada likeness same shit. I and like them. I started by an action visionaries about six or seven. You know, but he would always written. Can heads like but why is like well look at em. What did you know that you do others? Iron man, headless cap, headless roaring, have realised what where the head is like that you don't need to look at where screwed I put it to you now college money has been money, they would just get angry. If I love you,

is that correct, and I mean you I'd so with cities to Canada Circle back their own tangent went a little long. I you know, I have a lot of cities. There lived a visit because now I what friends there you know why We ve been touring professionally for fifteen years now and soil on other people who still come the shows from way back in the donor genoa. So we go out of our way to hook them up. On our I mean not just in the states, but Tokyo got great friends. We got one of friends and and, like all over England, Glasgow, there's a couple of deeds that live in Glasgow to this day and on other names. But when I see that our work here, because you gotta get through that scottish accidents, hard which in a club is

because of its too loud you just go. Why is getting a catch anyway? Even if there is no no he's no way, as I am concerned by this, pretend that I'm a little more depth and actually but Tokyo, really quick. Did you until you have you ever been to that that robot show bar? No, I have it. I have not yet I'm hoping to go this time as well. We're going over. There were due to not fair show's over there. I vow really gonna do yeah we're words, really kind of started to build a brand. You know- and we book those before we book the ones here and States- oh man, so it's you know we're we're really stoked about that. There's there's a couple of like hidden action figure shops not too far from my report. I e that are really rat. I'm talkin about it's just a room in others, nothing behind it,

there's nothing at the front as glass facade you walk in, and you re literally like that's three well, but it's loaded with crazy stuff and those people had the most fucked up action. Veers. I've ever seen Oh yeah, you know I took my. I took my son to see some of this stuff and it was like we weren't. Even in Japan, we were it like Harrods alone or the right. So I might let's go check out there. You know the actual beers day in a whole. Japanese, like animals, section and groups like. Why can I see their paintings? because the world is rad gonna, be my first guess. Well, yeah they were really nice Sl, I don't go. There hasn't come off, do nicely going all the way,

with my leg. Those are supposed to come out of its own. The coffee table, guy who's gonna grab, look there's a lot of different cities. I love to play just because and not just because of the cities, but just because I know ominously some like rad people there, and at this point in your eye, the crew. You can't you do not like day after day, so you have like a day before after I hang out at idle. I learned by my limitations. Pretty early we did. We did one run on our first on the first album cycle where it was. It was like twenty one days straight. Yeah you win, so my lawyer and the gear their be days were wake up and it was literally like the guy in the tank in, but you get it to show you know, and I want I wonder, like it's like in like not to be too grim but, like you know, with two guys from Gore like after thirty years of playing, I like em, like they both kind of died. Similarly, leader of the sitting like one- was an event one was at home.

There's a home and like do you think that maybe the outfits night after night and like sweating within an outfit like has something. Maybe I mean you know the thing that we realise early? Was tat. You know when you, when you, when you're you're sweating, yet so much crazy, filth, amino sparing the details when, when, when you're doing all that night after night, it's very important, you make sure everything is washed correctly. You know, because that, because one of my friends caught he'd developed tapetum because of that were there wasn't yeah, because these things were getting clean, probably or he was weird and just neuroscience: bad luck to wash it like a baseball player or something. But here you know he developed something like

you just like you know. The worst thing means okay, now he's yet take medication for, but it is just like you know, so we learned early on that. If we want that kind of longevity, we have to make sure that a we take care of ourselves. Be we take care of this that the step that were actually putting on our bodies and we just kind of look out from one another. You know that it's a very physical shell, but at the same time

after a show. It's like you, ok, as ideas I passed out on stage and in Dallas on May him I went down hard like it was sweet exertion. I was I blacked out for, like the last forty five minutes in the shell fuck, and then I, but I finish the shell, I've no recollection of finishing show, but then I stepped off. My check me out box in the coming down like soon thy will got backstage thinking that we had to cut the show sure o weird was that we're, but everyone from the ban was around. Like everyone was there's a Uk Uk they take. Your time is universal, so there's that kind you look out for each other.

Plus I'd I'd exercise and train, and I try to take care of myself. Not especially now was gained. Sober kind of part of like that, like taking a link, is definitely makes you take a look at just not only what you want to do in life, but how you want to do it and you know so once I can add realised that I had a problem in Can it left that behind of legal cable do now? Who am I without it? You know. Well, I'm a dad, I'm a writer. Singer, I'm also holy shit out at the time I was to drive over to an apparent Jesus really yeah. It was bad you're, fantastic shape, nagging. Thank you. That was one thirty, I'm in better shape. Now. Third, I am to re think there raise them reasons. I mean it's it's hard though, but do you that the six A curl doesn't really trivial area that the Jack Daniels Skull crush.

I mean you know a disk, it's you do it at first, because you need to, and then you continue to do because we want to what they just gets easier you. You know it's amazing how, as your life pragmatic when you start when you're, you like pocket? It doesn't matter. We can limit everywhere that and then a third point like well I'm going to die or I have to- I have to actually kind of put some structure behind Mackay so that the chaos so that the outward facing chaos can run smoothly because it can't be actual chaos I guess that's why nobody said earlier. I am you can't so widow was there. There must have been a certain point, we're like. Actually we do have to start taking care. We have to start, you know like.

We have to make sure these are washed and other rearing yeah yeah. I remember one time is due in workin for that Static ex came to Hawaii and, like I was like help and put the shows a Gordon for Bulgaria sounds like you're loading stuff off their tracking anything like them. Then there was a bag and I opened you open a bag. And it was a big duffel bag opened up in it was their rubber suits and the stance that came out. I knocked me like it's like I fell back. It was like us, maybe so dizzy. I wasn t even watch these things in the Gaza. Brazen, that's now, as that was swinging the letter, the rug over the cat shares in chemical, the elder now have you said, scrubbing Bob that had been. I hope that Washington others used a executive legislative is its fowl that rubber and leather there's a reason that I have worn either those on stage, because I'm there's weirdness that comes out of my body. To begin with, I don't know, I don't need that like clinging to some sort of rubber that that you put on yourself, you yeah, I smoke

Tyres has been like somebody using so the romantics, A ban would deprive those rules Why do I go we're all where in these leather leathery leather, jumpsuit aerial it when you're stinking in your sleep damage will have made? These homemade, like just black mass, not scheme, asked what we got like like a nose like black letters and then just like made like just mass with no later than in who lies just like us drums those like a brook you're real, fast budgets. Blast beats in Somalia and like after one song. I, like. I couldn't breathe. I advocate off like bellicose like, but the pocket ass back on

Are you get Israel menacing guise of products? Just this big dorky Robin his arms after every Fuckin cherry Sea related agreed that all night laid you God, that's how long all last maraschino Rainier crushed any cherry. I sent you a ball you about that. Some! Let me ask you: how long have you been off the booze now, five years now, nice yeah, I quit the first summit. Quit was right around the time, we're making point three. Then I was sober brought three years for then I can fell off and then I was just like you know. What I'd do you really can get your head around at near, like I'm done as you'd have there'd be like days where I would have like literally one beer millennium like beer?

you wake up in your screwed for three days after the site as though it was desirable physically. I just don't like doing it anymore, so yeah, ok, you're gonna, get the choice. We go well, you can drink all the time you get. You know what that is gay or you can have a productive life. Yet I can just do shit. I really like to arrive in its different gauge. That's not recovering yeah, but you did you use pretty young, though right I was yellow my eyes, I started your drugs for Amy start drinking to beyond. Like I started doing a dummy, I'd smoking, when I was eleven started, doing why crosses one is about twelve or thirteen, but the time at fourteen dont cook. Jesus say ivy eyes, yes, but that's our desire of oriented. It is one of the states that helped invent math, yet good rest

In the eighties every day that we wish to raise a year ago, I wonder you look as I lead such a sheltered life. When I was growing up. It was funny that I ended up becoming a drink or my twenty years, and I was a teenager. I was very much like yeah, you know goes. I don't need to do drugs to Heaven. I wouldn't do I wouldn't drugs, I wouldn't drink. I would do anything, and so how does it? How does that happened to an eleven year old? What's what What are the circumstances? What I mean you friends or doing it? You know I mean you know good when up where I grew up a mean. We report, we didn't have a lot, so you know the only thing really becoming. There was no internet. There is. There were still only really three channels. They didn't have cable so, you just kind of ran the neighborhoods a lot. You know when you got into trouble and mean I was a hellion man like I did a lot of cry like we are. We had to have it for about three months that we were try to find Porta, potties and melt them like where we would just. We would set them on fire to see if we

looks like blue lilypads, I sort of guys eleven or twelve year old kid it in my city wanted to do just like all. That's really rare. We just tipped him over well done, We re ready at what we were trying to get it to melt complete, like almost like the wisdom. Our desire to mention, of course, then I mean beautiful man, Joe you start Nick in Eastern Nicky, birds from your parents goes, you know, Oliver parents did it, Then that turned into you know. You know the older kids Yahoo would be pop and speed like crazy. As, like our gay, I will do that and scale. You're, just like guy doesn't for yeah. So I mean just one thing leads to another and

honestly, I got off I'd. I started doing speed like a lot quicker, because I'd have almost analogy to marijuana, which I didn't know at the time, but it it triggers like super bad, like panic tax in me away like to the point where I'm gone for like two days later, I mean really bad. So I you know my friends kept smoking weed. I got way more and like the speed section and the hallucinogens which you know, young live unless you have the whole bottle of scotch guard. While I just want the kids listening No, that I don't recommend any physical rap power you alive. I don't know this, but I make you. This was a major good. I mean like when you're dealing with your own twelve year old. There must be no doubt Fucking he's just candlelight. Ok, my son, you so like he's, didn't give a shit about

that man, like he's just candlelight, ok, whatever you know I mean he's he's not even into girls. Yet you know led the or boys like he's is hasn't hit that that that that point his life, yet you just turn twelve, so he still ok, so my low guy, but we just which has had a conversation the other day about he asked me, it was so sweet. It was like. I need you to get rid of all my little kid underwear files. I wasn't why any site I don't wanna get made fun of in Jim. Now, chasms get cheer for Germany, they I was like earlier crap. I am think about that. Now. Look they made me look at him like a whole different ways.

Man's grown yeah he's thirty taken. Do a care you know like in social. So so I was like you'll never see another parallels. I won't keep a cop all hands. I'm sorry, I'm the ass! A lawyer. Can I add, whereas under rules one problem and he's got ran, like he's got jolly read like Andrew Stuff, you know like I wish they still made Andrews he'd, be God I miss end, but but the old school globally try to bring him back and they warn is cool like this horse shit yeah all at once, where their shit man, they were We were in the chess player people. I was that's like. Will the euro dumb? I can explain getting really cool spoken, kidneys, Jim plan right Well, that's what this assimilation I know like it's like you know, we're sure, like I have like, like a couple, miss resize if you're thousands Georgiana what the fuck is, that dump shows like.

Fuck. You know the IRA feel sorry for you going to beat me up. I'm still feel sorry for tat. Exactly it's like it's like I like there's a near. We do these life shows and has had to do with being a nerd like being a cause. I I thought was put on toll There's a recent still under the shit that I was in general is was also exactly I've. I tried to rebel against all the things that I like that, because I was just so there was so much you. I was so was it like a responsible, You think I mean people expected more from you know. I think it was just you know all the stuff that I was in Tunis growing up basically kept me just completely ostracize asters. I am you know, and so I you know I I wanted to. I didn't want to I wanted the like the stuff. I liked, but then also be accepted. Cool would be cool about it, but you know- and so I have every time I would try to rebel against my own wants. I would,

Just forget all that again like poor. My back when you get to certain Adrian only with a fork anymore, yeah that's what I like. Second, I think that's why I looked out being a metal kid, because we were candid ostracize to begin with. You know, so I let you know I could like stupid horror movies. I could like comics in gate boarding just all this crazy shit, because it was like I'll ease, the weird one par for the course yeah. I feel the same way that, like when I got the pockets of psychiatric, exactly like this you're going to shows outside of his yellow ideas about weirdos there and its aims. I was a metal puncture sciatic. I saw guide friends from all those different why yet and we were all in the same shit yeah, I'm sure like- and I was same way because in Hawaii, just like the sea, they meal yelled the underground music Siena, so tiny that yeah there's a show. Others, like a Scot Bent upon ban a metal ban like and it makes sense yeah everyone knew each other in IRAN was friends. But it's me when I tell people about

like the car like to say that, like to some people, I know now that Ojala punctuality saved my life ass, a kid and ok, you Johnny Rotten might go now. You don't see. That's ok, see if we can't be friends net yeah. What you just said was completely stupid. I see that's that's a very european thing, though I may be, and people realise that, where you have that many types of bans on one bill it's like that in Europe and an that's why the festivals over their smoke hours, because there are so many different bands, because they don't they didn't compartmentalize music. The way we do they just like it's great music. What these bans and you'll see penny wise opening for Slayer and then Slayer going on right before David Bowe yeah. You know, you know that now is an awesome, fun, fun, fun facts which I prefer

like a like a few weeks and shameless blood. It's just plug air. Pretty soon I loved it looks like the Likud deep at you know they had slayer than weirdo after that. This show this year's like it's like the others like death from above ninety, seventy nine and then looking shit like not doing aromatic in its entirety. No Shin and Judas priests. After that say, that's Austin! Now, I'm eight they make sense, but that's like even it weird yeah we're weirdest and guerrilla biscuits, which are very excited about, no shit out to see them, while my favorites, yet the year that did AL different, invest recently over three years ago than Cosette was was at the one that I didn't? I believe so yet it was like they. It was a comedy night sort of so tat, berry and meaning, and then- and then

now did the mainstay of the main say it. We do them if they should all be very open for him. Oh shit, nice, apples and stereo like it was just the other generally, while forelock flexibility, and it was so much fun watching like three thousand hipsters kind of like drop the hipster facade and lose their shit. We now played one iota, of course, so it was. It was a good time that it was a really good time. Well, I do you know what the here's my weird I'll story. I've never met him. Huge fan. I've never met him, but I had a chance to sit next year with the Grammy's and I blew it, and this has only been to the ground. One and it was the one year that stones, our insolent, now we're both nominated. We didn't went by what we slip, not one like the next year, but I decided at that point that I had just NATO club rid Fuckin Squeeze box beer shit, that's maybe, and hip

I was I was. I was like them. There was always six people nominating the best metal performance categories. I will flood, we ve got. You know we ve got two thirds of their or for six The map whereby we saw him s job and a working get undressed we go, you know, and, and we sit down, we didn't win Metallica, one in ironically, they weren't even there then, like I can remember twenty years ago, when it was a big deal that they didn't win. Now they just send people to pick up their Grammy's. I mean up, went on with those guys that it was like Senator or death magnetic, it would have been said, Andrea, yes, they want. They want for something like that and your stoked for them, because what they had to go through, but at the same time as I will hear, so

then shuffle us through this labyrinth of like piping drape to get to the real deal, is like. Ok, we ve done are non televised. What We like word pain or do we have to make sure these guys or whatever now we're in a fund? you into the real, shall ride. So it's me and all the guys from stone sour the time and we're just fuckin. I mean ok Unfortunately, silver. We just finished recording volume- three, oh shit, so I'm like freaking out like unlike ok, ok, then we get caught in this like maelstrom right in front of like the red carpet and step- and I repeat right but nobody's going anywhere. The only thing I can the only thing I can really leg compare it to is that you know that

spot in the oceans where all the garbage collects o the place, a garbage file. You know exactly what I'm talkin about it's like this spinning ball, that's what this was like right and private Grammy's and we're all just. What is it like? I went down. Were words were added? As you know, and I turn queenly tv is right here and she's. I have a broken toe and I broke it on recording volume. Three, she steps directly and I mean hard and than against her, but it was just like she couldn't see me because I'm so much shorter than she is Jesus collusion. I just went and I left I was like the flag

no I'm leaving. I sat- and I left so all of stone. Sour went without me and I got in my car and I went back to my hotel and I just sat there an arrogant, they're, gonna call after the grant visas by the way asshole you could have sat right next, well, I just went, but I, like you know what I made a commitment: I'm never going to the grams again and that's it and then the next year we want. So I got a call I'm actually recording the new stones. Our album, you know, is I'm right lyrics. Like those like am I just didn't area. As my word, I was delicate about like whatever you know what I know why they go there, how many people this green table habitats tat, keep them out of their Grammy's like this, like us,

Damp was angry, that's ridiculous! Well, is it so now is your feel. The ideas are, you saw, that commitment useful nor yeah I'll, never get that we stop get nominated. So it's fine. You know, but now that the best Melba form it looks like a just like they threw fuckin darts at some look, I had a gun, really isn't Orson, I'm out stopped? I was stopped that that hailstorm one, because I'm really good friends with those guys and I'd, know what kind of work they have put into it. You know I mean they came from fuckin, nothing and jobs really stout for them. But yeah me at this point. There is there's two schools of thought their sight. While we're just gonna try and vote for the most obscure norwegian forest car pathos. Black metal, but with the illegible fought from Sweden there we're gonna, give it to you tonight. You know- or it's like well, this is you know everything that

He has been played on the radio for those in the last five minutes ago. When a fuckin celebrate you love a lot and who votes on those words. Is it like an old PETE? it all be holds it. It's like a council of white people might be there. That's the reason we want is because an old person when Slipknot but a magazine article about around very a girl they are going to give you your like fuckin jurists, breeze, one on four alive version of a song they really forty years ago, and then the lie version will release twenty years and they only released a box said he gave it to the fuckin. What was it doesn't matter

but then I mean it. I mean that's like trying to get a fuckin needle with another needle. You know it's like you have one metal category. One basic rock category bands like Winning really show me on the door. We're. Fine is right here on the water. You can find them new book coming out various you actually look right. Yeah yeah, I wrote my third one, I just finished and it's called you're making me hate. You, I submitted a subtitle for it is they make me, put subtitles honour and there like you're gonna, get sued for that, and, unlike will that's the one I won there like? No, would this time were putting her foot it out? You can't use that one as it was basically like,

you're gonna get sued. For that, and, unlike will that's the one I want there like now, would this time were putting our footnote out? You can't use that one as it was basically like. Again, he would say so mad at me, I will leave it out, but I just wanna is you're. Making me hate you or how Justin Bieber two million deaths to make us on a wooden asked Obviously, like we're, and then you know down at the bottom- obviously I don't know if it's true but the aid, I believe- it wouldn't. Let me two hundred and ninety two thousand expert about seven hundred thousand, but it's some luxuries. French leave it. In fact, it argues that this boy, though, just be like, will maybe we'll use it now.

I got some great jargon. Research has had on the streets journeying. What are the street is just like: the million eggs they get here. Talk about a million really. I could talk like that all day by the way, I love that that the facts and I got a blonde gonna about again. What's up Nazi out of asset management like that greater that sketch without Philharmonic John Love, it's dead. Yet I get through with the one on a street gang. I get I'm under a letter that it now me to say that we were on the street. You should get glow because our genes will is there any other type of project that you haven't done yet that is so different from everything else that you're doing that you would like to do. You know I did. I did a movie last year called fear clinic, that's,

being from eared at the least reinvest this year with other tonight, I'll gas rat, and I realise that site as as much fun as I had doing, that I kind of honestly would rather be a voice actor. To be honest, like I really because I mean a lot of stuff that I watches is like really cool animation, you know and half the voices that are doing. Those are like the professionals who got the the stars, orders basically being themselves yet and then you ve got a million brilliant voice actors. I need them basically carrying the rest of the movie more you and I was like what I can do enough types of voices in and add your attitude and character.

In, do it ever like that a damning. I would love to counter train and do some stuff like that, even if it's just on like whether its adult swim or you know just just regular shit fuck and shows yeah, I would just I would love to do something like that, because it seems they would be fun and it is harder I mean acting in a movie, you know you can you can do the long, scumbags chew? The scenery aims at that, like the angry stoic right now that go with it with a voice with voice acting, you there's so much more. That goes into it. You know, because you have to basically convey all that, but with your voice and make sure that allows in certain links up- and you know I would just play- I guess- I'm just being a jerk. I would really just like to work with like John D Module, yet he watches moving day blocking beds. Fella goes like because I was I was like voices, why am I

I did a voice for uncle Grandpa and, unlike in the room, was Eric thousand, whose care that just like doing like your teenage ever needed to Jerry. I am I right next to him and he's just like. I have this one character, that kind of yells and he's doing like five other pay right under mine too. But it is actually recording. I do. I do show contingent Craig at which I'm recording and today really meant effect, and it is really fun, but it does the thing work. Fuck you up is for. Well, I don't know, maybe maybe your voice is strong enough, but it does Does it takes a lot? Choose your throat. I really really it s, no differently. Gonna, say

especially with is as many different voices that I use and like my different began to surf, I mean it's just about. If you take care of it, you know you can do it in a lot of those guys watching that movie actually made me realize I d do a lot of the same, warm ups that I do before even go on stage. You know, so, do you take care of it and get through it? I mean it's measure is a fuckin disappears either. He is a tropical hurricane amazing. Billy worse, I would just love will be back in a room with those two and just listen to them. Just fuckin, almost like dueling, you now lay back in four. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't think further future ammo episode and billion Maurice Le Marsh were there, and I couldn't get my fuckin phone out fast enough to record it, but but Maurice the busy they did

rain and stumpy, really yes, and so like he so worries is like what do you want to do your tonight, breast MP, and if they are no he's what're! You gonna do tonight brain like they fuckin they did. He basically did Steepy is Pinky and then Maurice did the brain and they just stay and went on for life couple minutes, but I couldn't like my thought out. That's why so I started and I got records there like ok, see an airport in my god dammit great. Do it again, please what are you? What do you think the state of horror films is its? You know, I'm ok, I love horror movies. I think they need a fox king drop, the found footage bullshit, I'm so tired of any Ike and am sure that I meet there

There are some that are good. There will now be. There's gonna, be one that, like you, like all cable, that's good, their certain movies that I can handle it by a lot of people who they get by the ill. My wife is one of them like so there's a lot of movies that even I wouldn't even if I'd like to see them, I can't go with my wife, you know and we do shit together. I know that's why, but you know me my life we like to hang out. Are you talkin about what I dont like with, like the people, doing the fount footage and then they break the form just to suit their needs? I was watching the sacrament new tie West one again, I haven't seen it it's like it's like you know, it's like them running around the cameras and put the cameras and like that, don't break a job, but then, like also the guy search like given his speech in there's all these angles. Yeah like exactly would zone as I go I'm sorry. Somebody's ran around with a fucking go pro and make sure that you know we knew.

We're gonna be able to cut through these differences in assimilating. Monica did like a really cool version of the found footage words like all the editor in camera yeah. So it's like he's like his old thing as Iqs thought, whose a creep that found tapes in the forest- and I was like I'm an edit all this together- ridable being murdered. That's not how things like that all the edit have to come from the person home again and he's a very underrated directors. Well, he's he's fucking fantastic, but at one end of the spectrum you get the found footage stuff and that the other there and it certainly spectrum. We have this interesting experiment, the universal going to try and do with the with the with the monsters you know it was they started with Dracula told you know they. Their plan is to make the universal monsters. Basically there trying to build it towards an avenger type movie muster squad remake wetlands.

Sure, that's what the version or I'm sure, that's that's what what from what I've read, this Dracula told is the first in the line of that that's what we're gonna do is a Frankenstein type origin thing building towards big, like Justice League, Slash, avenger, stipe thing so, and I have seen Dracula untold I've heard it's really good by words up very scary, dislike it's a fucking action, maybe it's, Oh really yeah. So I don't know- and I love- I love Luke Evans, so I mean I'll go see it anyway, but I dont know man like and the thing with the things or others did, there's something missing right now. There's this there's a hole in the gene raw, that's missing and with the purse came close with that kind of uncomfortable. Let you being hunted kind of thing which purge anarchy is much better than the first one. I can see that

but there's just somethin. There's this there's something missing and I can't put my failure if it's the storytelling, because what there you know what what's happened, is they realise that horror movies are? Basically you know you? Can you can crank out high volume super cheap and you know spending three million dollars on one movie. Could catch the right again and then like boom, a hundred million dollars and so they're, just there just crank and am now without really trying to find really interesting directors points of view stories. It's that their more concerned about how you gonna keep either their more markets.

About basically is keeping the genre doubts by law is a franchise yeah, as opposed to like. Let's find you know, it's fine like a really cool. Why enjoyed I enjoy the conjuring and I thought to guided? Do I didn't see Annabel, yet I only there but like it, I, like that's cool I've, heard it's really good yeah yeah yeah. I do not mean that's like fucking fitted Series out James, Juan Yams, one. That's like that's like the fifth movies may that's like had another Gabby made after it, and I really I enjoyed the the other ones that he did not saw, but it city. So I really enjoyed those yeah because there is, there is thought behind it and you you can't came to like really care about. The characters is well ass. Like you loved Wilson, you'll economic, you just you loved the family, so

I think it's story suffer and I think they're they're not making enough iconic characters either. You don't have your at seeing Jason or Freddy or Michael right. Now we are in a lot of these, like we move into a house in something crazies happening. You know, because this was an orphanage in all these kids are angry. Theirs really like yeah, does not really like a Chuckie like They try to reboot the more the watering down that whole that the whole side of that part they focus. I gotta focused on stories before scares exactly like the other states. Like I mean you want the scares to be good, but the scares I'm gonna be good. If the story isn't there to support the scares- and it's just like yeah just jumped out yeah. I guess you're, the best scary movie, I've seen in last for five years was cabinet. Words can also good

King Jean next was like a similar like take on Jack. You like just like her like that John ravenously home invasion. Stuff Taiwan has been doing. I mean I liked causes the devil. I love see I've. That's here's me! That's cute up! In my netflix thing I still haven't seen it serves you know it's like he. It's a young early eighties looks really Darya, I mean I'd and it's like it looks gray, the obvious excursion like now yet Tom Noon and in their whose item a huge and then I was the other one. He made o innkeepers with Pat Healy, which is another like it's like another, really good. Creepy I'll definite I'll check those two, but very much like the very stylish thickly towards that kind of things are just creepy like your yet the characters of the other, the people not the villains. Yet, as I am sure what I want you to buy you on the wood, what have you seen lately? That might might my viewing lately hasn't

really amazing. You know what's funny that I'll go to I'll, just tell just go surf itunes. Is he like what what hormones are coming out and there's just like a glut of movies that may, if they hit the theater, was for like a second, I what the fuck are. All these. You know about that. I think that's the future of the horror, the money you fewer horror movies coming out in theatres unless it gets that big push veo these the big thing for that year- and this is of me like I'm, it's a fantastic fast in law. The movies I saw there are think are just going straight to view dealing you to caution me game and the o that guy Garbo his friends like James Gun, those guys became all yea a hive. That was that's like political reality call horror movie, but yet there's a guy think it's all gonna just go that way, which is fine but there's little life, India to think about it. The Rio de the new video rental place around the corner. You know cause s were I mean I would that's where I would see a lot of shit was the video rental place. You know

exactly as they the ones that they were the ones that they had the most faded. Photocopy. I guess you're always like Euro in the window and your costly taken amount. So I saw a lot of stuff like that. I'm we couldn't afford to go and see him in the movie theater. So I read a lot of shit So I think the idea slowly becoming the new video rental store house to spend hours and the video store denying determines sexual content based on the title in the box. Do we have a commentary? Just before what was the reason for the movie- and it was in every fucking, video Randal Store- is the one with the Alec Baldwin he's on the cover with no shirt on its Like Miami Blue or something like that. To this day, I've never seen it, but it just looks so far. Horrible men lose Mammy, blennies home a gun he's got that these got the Baldwin face on

You know what I'm saying as I believe it was always on the corner. The bicycle yeah right, exact, was always on the corner. Shell, like always walk address. I can't find was up interest, not known resting up. There's really get us trillion hormone coming out called Bobby, Duke, which is mainly creepy, really really funny, greedy, its kind like it's like there's, no Gore, there's no real, like, like you know like like blood or anything like that. Just like all just spoken like like the whole, like movie you're, just like constantly you get exotic tens up and let go. I d. I definitely see I look at the trailer. It's real creepy. It's like a hunted Papa book, then like a cup of parental leave like the sea when the Ladys looking through the pocket book is frightening. Nice seconds was really well done. Nice.

Well. I think we're we're in an hour Corey Taylor. Really yet our ten do. You believe that it just whereby we just saw? I know what I'm gonna work. This is under fire from baby. I know this was working times. That we were able to to get you on and jammed up. There was a minute whether like always play it's gonna be, and it was like. You said: no covenant gonna make it. Now? We, I switch my flight two hours earlier. I have to say that I do you have no I admire that. I admire that moxie from a guess like that can arise again. We gambled away relations so that way it well You know what I'd do work. My leg

it's not arouse our brag. I my way around it anyway. Now it's weird serves Coelho, crush a cherry gonna go to go to the german crush a cherry rise Tory proposal, we gotta get another October twenty. First new Slipknot, album point by the great chapter drops October, twenty four twenty fifth, not fast at San Bernardino, and then two days after that prepare for held tour which were doing with corn, starts to move across Amerika and leave it weird snail trail of evil right, that spirit well in the next year. Might the movie in FEAR clinic comes out, I think in February, and then my new book you're making me hate you just be verdicts

I'm sorry spell get me relax its eyes, and that comes out, I think in June, so things were at last, you can have you the warm I really nice man noted, and not only that, but Ireland versus Doktor, which will never fucking, see men. That too but maybe a civil war, maybe maybe Campbell S. Fingers draws the other words that and will see twenty. Sixteen is a sitter spent my come now. Leaving noticed tat. Come burrito.