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That was my enemy. Another he's a longer my enemy, there's an odd void in my life you're a little out of kilter Wasn't there Mary? I think there was a guy, maybe on Craigslist, who said, I will be your nemesis. It was and then someone or was it, was at a weapon I think I'm starting to mash up weird means in my head about is the whole point of that was a great monologue in the otherwise poorly mishandled unbreakable about how we need each other and we're gonna do a movie about how it would be like if there were superheroes and supervision in real life and then we'll have no one behave. The way they behave in real life does not completely ruined the whole point of the moon, but one by me out about that movie was that it started. It exists to headed ended, so there you go. Did you like sextants I'd ever live, I'm sorry, not at all. I wanted to see, like I'm sure in his mind, he thought of leaving open, ended

so people never known like while you guy what kind of wanna know like I wanted to see his kid shoot him in the kitchen and then have the bullet bounce off really go far enough there are movies and there is another one is as Mars attacks where I go. Oh golly wish. I made this though I would have done the joke, all the job properly or not stacked up of jokes on top model, the entire thy Mars attacks. You need a straight man and then a funny man who need abbot and unique Castelo. The aliens fighting slightly less wacky humans me. If you took and TAT actually Tom Candy yours, I got this time Kenny the voice, a sponge growth square pants,

Spongebob square pants, had been on the budget and the ice king, frowned yeah vegetable and a guy that I used to deliver lunches with crappy day job in Boston years ago. If you took the aliens for Mars attacks and edited them in to independence day in place of the aliens there, that's the movie, the all that would be awesome. People are laying it straight as a heart attack the eye. Margins are crazy and don't care then let thy, but that instead you get the whole areas. Glenn close The way we jack Nicholson. Jack mingles, Lord zero. Now for the word. Martin short memory, though I thought more ensure, was pretty great unworthy. Eta has, but it was such a such a leg, just like God of wire laughing.

Allowed outside, but ass. If they were, those movies is, I gather the comedy genre movies, we're just that's. Why shot dead was so good news because, like you know the people reacting very funny, Syria has obviously rationally when the monsters don't know there are no comedy at work. It is a miracle when I was in London again thing you have such a great movie one of these facts. I was with the werewolf earlier this week. I showed them the big, whereas an hour ago they going you're gonna die out. Another picture right now, multiple guess yeah. I'm holding my phone up to the MIKE, describe it

we'll be character on my friend, Bob Burns is sort of like a famous collector and he has all this stuff in his house. His house is just like amid many museum of memorabilia, I mean literally the day there either you doing a documentary is a documentaries being made about him. Well, that's the sentence, Sorry, I had a stroke, the thicket, I smell pennies. No, it's fine! You're! Fine! You look, ok faces, drew his employees on one side, and so I went over there to do it and I was with a werewolf of american one of a London, the alien queen from aliens. Is there the flying saucer from the data arrested there was a feeling like us at the last accident creature, from the black lagoon suit and more than anything I held in my hand, I give to Bob from the Mercer Special Effects studio, these thirty five cent, Lindbergh UFO commercially available model

but a little direct, your name and would put in a little movie called plan I'm from outer space. How did someone even find that why was this of burned after they may? That was just Bob was a fan. Nl. Lay in the MID fifties knew everybody that the sure wholly show. How did you do know? Rich corral? I do Corral is a guy who his, I think he was. I, it's a beaver when he was a kid and then he began, television director and has spent a large portion of his fortune from television directing, which is very lucrative by the way, in all seriousness, it really is, if you direct a pilot and that pilot gets picked up again, you get money every week. That show is on whether touch another episode again, Jerry Morrow Jim Boroughs, who you know did that four shows like cheers. Frazier, I need realize lasers like they eat, leaves and shit man. Yes, like so rich career How is it is a horror fanatic and has many lives in this, this kind of

any house in every year. He thought a brings out his horror collection, but here like one of the original exorcise dummies like he's a he's got some insane stuff in his collection. I'm sure he has a bunch of apes stuff as part of the apes stuff, as well of the Lord and and so actually rob Zombie had one of the eight one of you. Apes, costumes and more at one year for Halloween blood. I fear that it will all do you don't do that already original able to now. I have the pull over extra masks Leon, crappy, chimpanzees, but I got it in the weirdest way. The way I got it was what was great, my wife and I will use the live behind the chateau, my mind and our neighbourhood at a parking problem and we're having a little com, Many neighbourhood meeting and there's this guy named Dan. This older guy named Dan and these talkin about the parking from Dublin's was the

Having said that, as dating that conversation about ten years ago, and and and I look and then I walked up to literally excuse me, are you didn't street back look out of the five make up department of the late sixties that I knew from reading STAR login famous monsters in everything it was like he stepped back like I slapped him almost herds. That knows that surprise. There is, I guess I don't like. Oh my god, I know who you are and bottom of a blue because others great four days later thing Dong and I told them. You know I told him my apes, phantom and stuff forties letter. My doorbell raised over the door needs there. It he's got an extra chimpanzee mask and guerrilla clients and it just goes ere. You should have these if you like the start, those so much. I just got at my house. Oh my house, I know I can tell you I don't want it. Did you put the mask

then in blown, because that seems like the only acceptable thing to do in everyone s garden. I did put the mask on and what happened was then I exhaled, without taking into account that for twenty years. The lake in the muzzle then designed to bottle all of that chemicals righted we offer you my eyeballs and bent over full as upon a tinge and figures, about what go blind still. The happiest wanna have a momentary, lyra everybody I vigorously. Yes, I did. I vigorously tore it up, Oh, my god. Would you at your at your? I wish there was footage of that, because I must have looked pretty pretty great so things I want to talk to you about? I want to talk to you about your obsession with Edward and planet of the apes and just sort of your comic book,

and comecon obsessions, but also I wanna talk to you about that stuff. As well and then have a little bit of the Simpsons and then it up, but also your jaw, Hudson the

story of thirty zero Hudson, whose could do so very, very quickly, Jewel Hutch Individual Signs theatre. We were when he was living in Saint Paul Minnesota when it was just Mr Science theater was then a local show called Mystery Science theatre, two thousand. There was just on television and many apple, Saint Paul, and he had a workshop warehouse in Saint Paul where he built toys and stuff and crow and combat all came out of their and next across the hall was the rehersal space for the band whose care do, and they were just friends. So I was over there there, like hey they're, having a listening party for their new out. My think it was warehouse named after the warehouse where there's faces worker, so let's go over and its manage all emerges like Dorky, Jack balls and cargo pants and a bunch of Minneapolis seen stirs, and

They will lose. You do, as I say, attracted Teamsters, but they weren't. There were just dorky guys, and so Joel was standing in front of this stage bombing out, although hipsters, by playing very aggressive, which I then immediately joined in on and to the end it was great because they were dying with laughter, the hipsters or so bombed out. The doors were ruining their private activities, not only party, and it was only made worse what Joel looked at me and at one point quit after So I went to get really. The girls are looking make. Your guitar, bigger, extended, aren't knows about more than those people were laughing very hard. That was really when I met all just before her mistress consider happened, it was it was great because it s sort of like I've been that

yeah. You know you can't I've coming around coming of age really know what group am I in I'm not in this, I'm not in the Epp group, and there was the hip group and there was a tough guy comic group Bassorah later yeah. You know the smooth dude group it was an act group. I don't want to name names, ok, there's no guys guys it would gas leave the house and sweat pants sure kind of deal and- and I didn't feel comfortable with evident and jewels equally, that's that's. My group favours embassy guy with sweat pants outside or in the day. I just imagine that he fucks all the time. A lady. I wonder where underneath and be ready to go, and I would say that Mercosur, in Venice veto, would see that a lot just a couple coming Anderson, sweat, pants, yeah, you guys to fuck, The time you were taken effect break in these areas is waiting, so what people do and then I thought and argues the lemonade violence. Do that,

the elastic around the ankles, collects any residual dripping that occurs there more effect pan there made of basically claw there's just like out there like tallow pants that's the idea that this area there is like walking around in your beat off rag. I just war than big they didn't fit into the hospital tat skins, pads made of shame we wanted anywhere. I asked Peter skins, I'm fat man poor, raise these pair there. The name is telling you that they're so durable that your chubby little body won't find a mark, a tough skins, your poor where's. My mother would say it so you waste gets bigger. You know you'll fit Nepeian, oh you she was planning on. She knows the wise woman coming along

Little angel needs another pie, and why are you doing this entire papa? You get a fit in the tub skin, unique carbs commitment by first I had been a fan of your comedy. In the eighties, and then I met you. I really was, though, because there was so I know I know I know that all its its eggs, not that much younger than you and so on. But I know I'm all, I'm not! That alliance started crazily young. I started when I was seventeen o shall as a working touring mental by the time I was twenty one, but you, but you you had a voice in common. For me that is that much of the eighties comedy boom was about very low impact. You know comedy first, no real substance, but just like hey we're, just gonna distract people in comedy club, so they

dreams, food derived hours? Yet yeah Seinfeld was the you know, progenitor of that with the suit jacket sleeve rolled up to the elbows, and it was all- and it was I mean he happens, to be excellent added, but it was a celebration of minutiae and people forget it was so common back. Then there was a sketch on ass, an l about it when Tom Hanks was on us and I will stand up and when Will they have that your hair she gums and though she got there? I mean it was basically I'm over these worrying sign round and then once he got on those show Seinfeld and it found its voice. All that sort of style became codified. As I know that's great, but for a long time it was. It was almost cliche not because of Jerry, but because of the Legion of Sub Jerry's right that were all over the place. It was really a facile thing to rip off. If you were an honest,

fired perform legion of such areas. As my grateful that government is my chat room needs all little. People regularly is allowed people playing grateful, grateful dead, but original name of Jerry's kids from the indian but the tellers southern high genuine or trying to create a region of Sudan, Jerry's Legion of sardines. Again, look the legion savagery us, but but but your county too, He was always I always gravitated toward it. For for some reason, summer, one because you they the bits were longer story bits and you actually we're talking about. Real things that you are dealing with and finding comedy in that, and also in my mind. You are the master of of what I describe as like. There's an eloquent filth to some of the things that that that you write in and it made yes

because I always, I always start writing from. I always go right to fill that I always beat myself about like no, no, no, not again, but but you do it in such a way that may if you like. I know there is a way to do it where it's ok and it still funny- and still you know. Well, that's all that came from a lot. You know all about that. None of that stop in anybody style is ever intentional. It's always what you how you develop and, and then people ascribe what they think it is after the fact that ever set out to do anything different. I was just like this is the way that I'm funny certainly ripped off. You know, like Alto L Albert boxes stand up. If you listen to the stand up, sections of comedy minus one were a huge impact on me because I realized I didn't have to write a bit about you know

Hence he just talked about going on stage and a richly havens concert or doing, and it was just a way of talking about his life that it was. I got what an easy way to come up with a terrible if I just wake up and do shit I'll, have the tyranny and and there's a guy named bought from Boston in Kenny Rogers and who I took a lot from non material, but it just of his he loved dark shit. The way I love dark shit and any sort of showed me away to talk about dark stuff in a way that was funny and not just like dead baby. Right in our other? You do have one of my favorite that baby jokes about an idea. I didn't. Even we set an agent largo once and I felt like it was a thing that you may have never said again. I can assure you it probably, as this was poor. Only ten or eleven years ago, you said you were talking about, will be go, we're gonna, go we'll be Goldberg about us

He is coming home from a dead babies funeral and seeing its toy box in the living room. That out. That's my dad. It's just my dad frequently my father frequently about his funny. Is dead babies, Toy box funding? That's my father! I met always that will allow. That was one of those ones that just latch onto my brain. I will never forget that as long as I like, that is not necessarily about the dead baby, it's about the results of it just being at home after the aftermath. Yes, some of that with good eloquent Phil. I mean that that leads you to eloquent filth and I ve no give an example of like the way that I could never do something painful, and then I would see Kenny talk about his stuff was all sort of like a darker Stephen right. It was in an like fictitious whimsy, like he would do it. Here's a candy, Rajasthan joke Great comedian, still working lives in Boston. I believe sometimes like to go to the laundromat. With that big lie

doors on the machines and I'll just throw him like a dolls head couple? Arms Walker ongoing as anybody think eighty like that kind of like our like that, laugh because its uncomfortable, but I would do a thing where I would talk about my girlfriend broke up with me, but she's moved on, and I am happy and she's happy and I would just stop and be really quiet for like twenty five of us, not because that's great because now the audiences attention, because they don't know if you ve- really snapped if you pretended to snap- and they don't know what's coming next. Surprise is the strongest tool in the comedians toolbox, and then I will go now she's right now. I can feel it then. I would just like bent over the ways. Is there really my leg inviting me? How do you get away because no matter where they fall down then I go now who, by getting I'm sure, they're done

lying there in the warm loving Africa is not here, but I bet that come off his dick with an old photo of me. That's the kind of thing that you would like assemble like like, like Howard, Philip wrath right. This is what what's the harshest damage. I can conjure that is in such a difficult line to walk, though, because so many particularly comedy club audience. Is our little pre programmed to immediately just go before you even finish. What you're saying? How do you? How do you keep them authority authority? I mean the great thing about taking long pauses and maintaining its all crowd control and if you and I had the good fortune of starting out in Boston, which is really a rough comedy town,

The audiences are, if you better, be good real, quick, it I'll kill. You know it's, it's all like London in a way, oh yeah, it's a very contact support for them, and it's not like where I move loaded to San Francisco. You go on stage and everybody is in a parade applauding politely and three people are star, your fan club. I must establish like you know you go on stage in there's a guy doing a cat abortion in the front row, and so you get a really get their attention quick. So you learn to have very good muscles in terms of crowd control and if you just stand there, and stare down the crowd and let them know that you are not afraid of them and that you are in charge and you dont, you don't need to talk to do that belt. You can tell you, can tell that's how you do it and that's really fun. I mean ice are to this day in my act. I always have something that I will do.

Where the audience gets lost like they don't know what I'm doing and they don't know what's coming next and they get off centre and that's great because it really just affirms know I'm in charge here I think you're, sort of the Father. I think this sort of God, Other of I see a lot of you in that sort of what ended up being called the alternative comedy. Movement of that sort of ninety one. I see a lot of your voice trickled down to some very famous. Can Indians within our world in being able to make more money but I see- and I even see you know what I mean I will readily admit that you're someone that I blew sort of get in my head sometimes, and I'm writing like this- is it but that's how you do it. I know that I guess that's. I know, that's! That's! That's exactly how it works, but its moral. It's more of a writers approach to Carmody rather than a clowns approached it. Amity where you can create how, by weaving this really incredible imagery together without have

to have like a like here is about. Things, and he is a joke like it's all about taking people. I'm is really really wonderful journey that through three no through a story with with just the way and the metaphor is in the end there and that's that something that I, that I love others great, no one, and I also think I mean I was certainly doing it. I was one of them when the alternative moving started here, an ally in the nineties. I was one of the few people that would do all of those shows then also go over the improbable and do it in a stray club or go on the road, because I was a of all the people that started in our little group. Like me in Janine, grovel, oh and caught the Griffin and Bob Odin Gherkin David Cross, and that little group I was the only one that really works regularly income

many clubs and started there in an anti killer and an almost people leaving out names. But I'm literally it was my. It was a year social group. It was the people I went to meet those genes like like the Genie Cross Group. You had already been touring comic before that seen in there. I think that scene of Geneva David and all those guys and Cathy and Great Baron like that sort of evolved out of well, we can't perform in clubs where we don't want to former Clodagh we're just gonna perform having been there today of the conversation I'll do exactly when it was wholly shit. It was Janine having the very astute observation that and allay there was no place to experiment. Could you go to the improv and you want to write and do some new stuff and you find out oh great, Jim MC caully from this, and I chose there and he saw me tank because I was trying something new, and so we wanted to place to bomb. If we had to bomb

and that's all it wasn't the other thing. It was just quite simply by that point in time. The comedy boom of the eighties and early nineties had really, as I have said before, reached its point of putrescence and comedy fans warning comedy clubs, because there were the least funny entertainment option. Rondeau is, you knows is like there are three comedy clubs in every town and- and someone said this- I think this is very Seinfeld story. The arc of the comedy Bowman and in the eightys was nearly eighties you'd bump into somebody, and they go. What do you do when they go? I'm a comedian

oh, that's really interesting. What's antlike and in the end the mid two ladys it be like what you do you go, I'm a comedian, they all my brother, lousy committee and then the early ninetys obliquity. Do I'm a comedian yeah me to her so happy where we wanted to just find a place where we could go in and bomb and experiment. So we went to this protocol big and tall books on Beverly Boulevard, and it was like a hipster bookstore or the performance area upstairs, and you said, ok and would just rules they keep it interesting. You can't do you material, you have to do new stuff, you have to do new stuff, they ve done, and then that was the role so you'd write it down and then bring your note book on stage with you, because you didn't know it and that

The birth of having your note book on stage fifty, which later somehow got misconstrued, as don't practice at all, be prepared, know you're wrong. It's a job. It's a show. We had our noble because I didn't have time to memorize. It had written a three hours before that's how answer when I first started doing caught, because I come to the vote today is to cover the aberrations alone apart. When I was in college and I swear, I first met you and like ninety one end, and I would- and so what I took from that is oh no, when you go on stage, if you wanna be cool, you have to bring you know, but can you have not be familiar the bits and I bought him so many times just not knowing where the you know. I know everybody

guilty about. I didn't want to be the old guy gone in all kids. It is wrong, and that was the best advice ever gotten stand up was because I was when I was at that time. I was working in knowledge. These clubs of anti colouring, driven and Janine, and all these you know, as I have said, that period of my time it was just a blur of people and swayed jackets writing on their hand and then I will go on Thursday, Friday Saturday Sunday and do the Edison Improv wouldn't have been Rooney or with Bill MAR or Larry Miller, and so I had my feet in two generations of comedians, very good friends with all of that Bill MAR Kevin Rooney Larry Miller, all those guys, because I worked with him all when I was a kid- and I wasn't my peers, Janine and everybody else, but I would go out and do all the stuff that I was doing in the alternative rooms and adjust. I was very angry that the audience wooden warrant ready for it, because I will just go on Lycosa blown apart and people who could have

this year in Dallas and the cabin Rooney said. When I you know, it's a show you doing what you doing, but it still show there's a MIKE and a light and you're on a higher plane that everyone else Europe on a box, it's a show, and they want to like you, but the precursor to that is they want to at least think that you like them right and the minute those to any set him just like that in one day and one minute- and I was a better convening the neck show, because what I just buying my attitude towards when I was doing changed, I was able to do all the same stuff, but I just had. I was just a more open performer about it. It was it wasn't like here, submission not gonna get. Oh, that was little tourism that such payments and that's almost, I see that, like with baby comics, sometimes where they feel like it was just a few

they irony. I guess it is. I guess it is. They control the situation more by at least in their own minds like I'm in a right so far over the audiences head there, ain't gonna fuckin, know not cause I'm smarter than they are in the second. You do that. It's like Robin. Neither one of really enjoying that experience. I think. Well, it's it's. It's you're, not gonna, I'm not gonna, be vulnerable and try my best and then bomb I'll, tell you I'm gonna bomb and I'll be in charge of the situation, and when you started doing Matt like when you started to treated more the show did you feel like you had to change anything verbal here. Would you sort of just now and not at all? It was just attitude, it's just attitude and I get that you realise that a lot like when you talk about you know when you do politics like. If, when I go on like real time with Bill MAR something like you know, I'm I'm a bomb throwing per

like everybody else? Probably listening to this? I have great friends that are on the other side of the political spectrum in, and I've talked to people that I really dont like. But if you just like ok, I understand your perspective and I understand that you think that you the way you do here. Let me I should question from my point of view and you'll find what you do that people it is much more open instead of just going they all internet conversations like. I think this Europe communist you're, a fascist and of comes a red. If you just like, I understand you're, an American I'm, an American, we both of our country, we have very different views about it, explained to me,

why this happens and I go crazy. That is the first that I believe that is the first rule of the seven habits of highly effective people seek first to understand. The first soap is over. You. People actually want to show their point of view in your fuckin face, rather than actually trying to understand the situation. That's very interesting! You say that I had a friend who is a comic back from those days who had that book and set a really great book. You should really read it and I bought it and I never opened it and ended up giving it away at a show at Luna Park. I had to show them apart. By gave away all my self help books all of them unopened and that one specifically, I remember being not remotely these and like I'm in a flutter and the guy who read it. John appetite

is that usually does book ever whatever Jed wounded, their young comedian, special and ninety three judge who look pal. I remember that The young comedian special that had re Romano Janine, Tabby Arizona they put her in a flower print dress, is clearly the sun was trying to girl her up in the traditional sense, jet appetite bilbil me and I think Dana car we hosted, maybe thousand temporarily, and a young spry Andy can learn. Who was? Jumping around on stage like a grasshopper, yet there was an interesting special. Anyone one contained in articles you're, watching you're, watching a lot of people really on the precipice of fear. Ring out who they are and then see. Where they ended up going and seeing that that was kind of their first television, big television thing Romania was like thirty four when he did that. I don't have a lot it. I have a lot of television. I wish wasn't telephone

I remember watching you and ninety four. I went to see busters happy hour, the buster Poindexter competition, did they try? And I know what you're talking about the fact that this was one of my favorite moments of all time is that data they buster introduces the next comic, who spoke to be Dana, but there's a fuck up and prompter that or the queue card or whatever so introduces Cynthia, and he has gentlemen, please walk outta the stage Carlos men see and then in a walks out without missing a be going. Hey everybody, it's crazy to build teen over, like everyone, fucking lost their lives. Of course they didn't use it, but there was an amazing such limits story them like that period. Although shows when literal every channel at eighteen standards, just as we need a list which, by this agenda, Bernard Zealous verses in the original Louis, but there was the alias an incentive Bernard, your get rid of it

a list, but but I was standing backstage with rigid, lose who I lived one house away from at the time in LOS Angeles. I've never talk to, but I see him every day and it we're standing by stage- and I am about to say you know, I'm your neighbor. I live right next to you. Blank blank drive and they got you know just cause. I can't talk right now, I'm getting ready to go on please. I can't operate while these go by myself, He really is that neurotic. He really is, I know, I never said earlier I daresay it afterwards is. I know tat. We are now going over the stage. Don't talk to me, I'm not doing anything at the moment it exploded and then I think, did I think you ve been pretty public about this at least anew in your stand up and say

but I've seen a largo, but shortly after that period you you had a little you bad kind of a meltdown, and so what happened? What happened exactly I had a little comic book store called meltdown. I would I started doing: I started to extend a really really young and I just did it all through college and was did it full mean? I just did it all the time with my whole life and early drove myself really hard, and I was I was just on stage in San Francisco and by the time I was here lining. As am, I met twenties- and I remember I was doing three one hour shows that night and I was but twenty minutes into my first show- and you know when you're on stage you can have the flu and you walk on stage and your fine adrenaline yeah and then it's over, but I've been to I've. Just I've done it. So

much. I just got it so much and it was that that went away. The adrenaline went away and I literally just have what I know now I did. I noted the time I had a panic attack in the middle of a set, and I was just on stage- and I just thought I can't be here, but my heart was racing. I was outside of myself. Looking it myself, I know if you ve ever heard of earlier many you know they're like in India onstage annoying like not only do I have to do another forty minutes, I have to do it to more times, and I just like I just said I forget what he said exactly, but I I said I'll be right back and I just walked up and we'll club cops counted, caused ever Cisco and I walked in on stage and the owner of the club. The are a man who has the name Tom Sawyer. He was willing when I walked. I want

stay tricks and independent more keep paying me in glass door. I walked out the show room and he was sitting in the priorities when he looked up at mammal, chose Roger, went, whose onstage right now and I want no one ever- walked in the bathroom. It just came and stood in the stall from ITALY and then those now and then the fact that I did walk off what may made like. Ok, you can leave you have to any sort of collective myself. Walk back on stage finishes, shall finish bushes and but then I just had you know I had stage frightfully two years. Really just for having never had it paralyzing stage fright that data are having to the package icon stage and just sort of melted area when you're twenty, when you're twenty six twenty seven. If you dont flip out, you ve done something wrong, you think so I think everybody around that,

I'm you sort of crash and burn to one degree or another, and I you know I was a very I was I was raised, largely unsupervised. I was the fifth child of six kids with parents that had other things to do with the sludge kids drank, and so I was you know, I didn't really kind of I kind of parent it myself and I was in a very good. Of good boundaries. For me, I wasn't a great parent to me for to yourself. I wasn't good parent to me and then you'll learn. You know I've been, then. If you figured it out and I just go forward the pit the Pannikins Ex, fortunately out, I pimped it out until I got one men show

so it paid for itself, will know that through it I mean, because I mean to be able to do something. Construct was something horrible like that is sort of the gift of what it means to be an artist. I think he has in its terrible thing when you don't know what's going on and you think you're going crazy, I mean it as the elegant I had known. I did not panic attack. Wasn't it not panic disorder was I didn't know what you know. I could do no another period of time. There's like I went like eleven days out ever sleeping more than two up two and a half hours a night. I had something very simple: when I was twenty and I didn't know what it was at the time and you and you fit feels like it's a physical thing, you die, you think you're dying and then it becomes. The panic attack becomes like a shot collar like a dog like they start living in fear of the shark s without ever. Actually me like If you use a shock collar and a dog only really have to do it once or twice now, and then after that, there's a little beeping sound that precedes the shock and when a dog, when the dog, then you that just the beep

then they fear and that's a saving of panic. It is a vicious circle, because the anxiety of the panic attack produces the panic at every an end in San. Diego is the worst thing in the world and but then you, but then, if you you'll, learn, know that some nerve Ulysses hyper vigilance. Your body feels under siege and refuses to let itself relax it feels threatened when someone told you that that was the thing that must have changed it for your life. There's only are dropped like like a droopy cartoon yeah. Then you just get in a get some pills and get your life together, and ills and surgery, acquitted vice health and get just come true. Panting we'll take care of that is true. You know I went to all these homeopathic people and they were all a waste of time and money. It was just an utter avalanche of new age bullshit. That did nothing and I really want to believe a lot of that stuff. But if you go to a foot, reflex, Allah, just and say my card as of work, they'll find out a way to solve. You sure you put reflex ology

I got some pills and they were awesome. Took him for a long time, a new age, you friends or go. You know, you're still, feeling your anxiety or just masking it with medication. Has a gas what it says on the labour market we know in the winter, Germany still feel the cold. I mascot with your addiction to suffering one. I always found that with panic, attacks that one I realise that it was a physiological reaction, olives and not as it then and I realize like oh. If I can keep my heart rate down, it's not gonna

but adrenaline through my body at a hundred miles an hour, and you can't you can't relax and have a panic attack of the exact same time it's impossible. Yet. So if you can keep your heart rate down, then it that really that doesn't cure everything forever, but it is very kind of you get to that point where you're like up. Is this the crossroads, my about the freak out? If you can, if you can add that before you go into that mode and meetings and musicians have never had that, aren't that great

I believe that people that are driven to those extremes in their behaviour that also allows them to go to more creative places. I mean, if you, if you don't, you show me a guy that doesn't have problems and I'll shoot, really boring performer and are really uninteresting writer, because you have to write from those things and is so it's enneads more true, even musically I mean than than anything else, and when you do realise that in your able to step back in and still use it but live your life. Happily, that's that's the that's the goal, and it is it's. It's tricky cause for why you're living like with a gun to your own head cause. You don't know if you're gonna be. There is a terrible feeling too to think I just wish. I was like everybody else. It will just go to the movies and have fun

Then the truth is that a lot of those people are probably screaming and of course he does I wandered over. I can't jerk off again young, like a hot, looks like the handlebar grip of a child's by blood. Come streamers. Bye bye looks like a beginner ceramics, trade, but I I just want to show Here's your cargoes, I'm not a stress boy. You are what does shift gears a little bit because I, but I want to get to the I wanna get to your obsession Edward and plan of the apes and vamp Marilla, and you know like your relations and stuff. That's all great! That's all grades of who you and Jonah ended printing organised at all about other stuff are you gonna. Do you understand me be shows, are heavily

posted. Would you taught a lotta two in each and every one of our voices, we're gonna pro tools that should have we gotta? We got. We also got a drop of Ulysses. Click, ok, but you had overhead would cause that's Jonas Favorite movie. I was astounded when you said that I was so oh yeah, like meaning a member of a secret claw. It does you like that. Sometimes it's not it's! Everyone likes that movie, but no one seems to love it as much as any. I'll say? Oh, my god, I love them of his visit, suits my favorite movie of all time I forgot you. I don't know how you came over just backstage meltdown, you just technical phones. You show me your phone for some reason and you show me that you had the.

Movie on your father. I always like. I keep it with me and I tell ADI the weird story knives. I have to really weird stories, but that movie, but but but one of them was it I Joel Hodgson. I knew about plan from outer space through nighttime Kenyan those guys. When I first started out, I had never. England or Glenda I'd heard about it and not Tom Kenny and his Romania. The time later, my roommate in Boston, Ganem, Dan Spencer, Glen or Glenda, and on an old and my head exploded. I just thought it was most amazing thing, I've ever seen and then as our planet, and I love this movie. This is something about it. There's something it's like when you listen to like an early punk record like I'd, want to save the sex puzzles record because it was too well produced now, throw that if you listen alike,

LOS Angeles by x. You know you Bernie those germs early germ, generally generally buzz caught. You can just hear all the flaws in the end, the mist, cords and then bad plant and the stick accidently him the ram instead of the drum yeah. But but the intention is there. The intention is so clear that the passion for the music, so that and plan I'm kind of the same way to me. He can't do a fucking thing right, but the in tension is there there's just nothing but affection for what he's trying to do, and I really do it's it's that that marriage of sort of like benevolent enthusiasm in and profound and competence, but what makes that come together in a beautiful way because they set just like not bad, like William hung like will that guy's very passionate about his music, but he can't really see no like what it. What is the difference between? I don't know, I don't know I just sometimes it sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't

I think it is right that he has yet gladly glimmered lenders. Great planet from outer space is great orgy of the dead that Granada Great the Edward Movie. That I mean I woke up early the day I died made a ninety. Ninety eight of the last surviving at woods. Grossly should not that I know, but you know sometimes it just sometimes it just works. You know it's an experts, the beautiful thing. It's inexplicably, you never know you know, but so is so. He was showing me that in my two stories about that, as I was so into it when that movie came out, I went berserk was I I have to be in this movie, and I I did audition for the movie and I still have my script, but I got from icy. Am

with my part highlighted, which was MAX Castello played it and the move here, but that those words and then I ended up living the movie readers will because, if you see the mood is a character of the character, a vampire who was the first person to like ironically host horror movies on television. She was Elvira in the MID fifties, I'm sorry, said Van Parallel, others, it I've ever had tat this man. She said nothing, matters, nothing had one she's dead, she's vampires, you send renowned long ears, choose she's now non undead. She she, I ended up interviewing her for a document ray. I wanted to do about horror, movie house, which is still the only job I think I'm really qualified to do and we became

really good friends and she never telephone at the time, and I wrote or a lot in this nine ninety ninety five right after the movie came out. I did this documentary for this. I fight channel met her interviewed. Her became her friend.

I would just like she just seem lonelier writer. She read me in I read about whether you live in the same city, but we became penthouse cause. You didn't wanna phone she's, very reclusive, and then it would take her out to lunch one. So once a month once every two three weeks and we just became friends and then over the years we just never stopped becoming being friends. You know we just constantly safe. How will the shit this time she's an early seventies early eighties than her sort of support group falls away, and I end up basically doing for her what Edward did for Bela Lugosi in the movie? That inspired me to contact her in the first place and there's this guy was very bizarre. You forget, you know, of course, her real name was mile an army, and you forget she's been.

Then she just becomes your friend and you forget that she's vampire and for a while, like whenever Oji plan. Not only am I gonna call her. I think I think I think I'm gonna pay her gas bill or a well. You rode support. You are ya, know we don't we helped her up and and then with the weirdest. Where was I just started on the Simpsons and I've been different? I guess two years and we had our first daughter and so out was crushed with title. I've got a baby and danger,

and Mila calls we or writes me and says I have to move their tearing down the building. That I mean and it's like. Ok, the one thing I don't have time to do. Right now is fine. First, flora, housing within three blocks of a supermarket for a woman in early eighties, on a fixed income with a dog and cat. They can't cross afore way straight to necessity. So I went into a store north Hollywood called Halloween. Town yeah, which is a golf supply store, is that that is that Wayne Store yeah, yeah waste or is

you know if you want to go camping, you go to big five sports. If you want to be goth, go to Halloween supply outlets and I walked in and there was a vampire shirt on the wall and I said: do you know anybody that I could pay to help me find an apartment for the woman on that shirt? real woman and they just went yes as if my coming was predicted in their ancient exhibit at all like and Sarah Graph Barrier Day, a man with tat tools.

Walk into the store that later? That's that's waited Jackie's. Nor wait, wait, wait, wait, did the effects for has four thousand corpses. I've heard of you if you play the Danzig to record backwards details of data Golda coming now we're gonna do rescue ed. So I met this lovely God couple Matt and GAB. He looked like Alice Cooper. She looked like Alice Cooper, but rather about another, both lovely people and they were just ass. He was in a band trying to get going Wednesday. Thirteen and she was a photographer in and they knew Milo, wasn't and loved her and together, the three of us were looked quite odd. Look at because the Vanguard couple and their parole officer- I don't I don't know who the guy the eyes out shirt is we we became really,

wonderful friends and we together found her a lovely place to live and, over the course of packing up her stuff found like a bunch of money that she had like. I thought I was that this straight out. It was literally, it was literally like the greatest day and we move drainage was so happy. She was like, oh, my God, is she had a bundle shoes. We are one of the last bungalow courts in Hollywood. Has she literally at her own bungalow? It was just you couldn't have designed it better and worse, I'm sitting in her house on that day, and I think this is. This is good. You know she found a bunch of money that she thought she'd lost and she's inner bungalow court everybody's happy it, and then I was literally just as I had that feeling of like this is a good thing

This is a good thing. I just hereby me out and looked round at mile is dog has bitten Gabrielle right in the text, which is one of those who had so. We spent that day ended that day in the immerse and none of it in the in the stern and would be a better didn't really wasn't going for milk, no good goes unpunished, but that was yeah where it was and I'm still friends about that Guy Matt is now robs. Arby's basest known to the world is piggy demon? Oh really, all that, if no, that Hannah to what a weird small world yet do not do I know him very well again visit Russian, I I don't know the version I haven't. Thousands, since I with lies, occurs that conch is that a bolder crush that raw, I feel like I probably do rabbies to have these bob.

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play with him under those are those are really fun there, not they're, not together anymore they're, both the moved out a different right partners in life. I know them ball them, good friends it about their the nicest people on earth, both of them, and there was a time I I don't think I'll buy me saying this. A mile is gone where they had a problem in the building that she is living in and she had done that a cockroach infestation and happens in low income areas. So she had to go, live in a hotel for couple days and Matt and I had to go clean out this room in our apartment, which was, I had a problem, and so it was normally so we ended up going to home depot and basically buying like hazmat suits, because a vicious cockroaches in cat pain and and just stuffed it looked like a scene for the movie

seven right now and- and we were just look at a huge like booties and gloves- and a mask- and just like my just my eyes and in just sweat and his eyes and mascara sweat, just look at each other and and just in this fat had room just laughing at the insipid none of the whole thing, but will always have bond. I see him now. Are you mail them now? It is clear that we are an arm to gather about. Is the he's one of those guys like I'm going to space, and I can't take my kidneys hang onto them. He'll hang onto their both really nice, and when did she passed away, she best web in January, two thousand, eight, oh well yeah, or two thousand nine. I forget, but she was you know she was one of those people they just you know

there's famous people and who make a lot of money and their well off, and then there's famous people that are famous, but then they don't. You don't realize that there are making any money right now and then she just sort of survive. She's, like you know, and an especially in an Hollywood. People fall through the cracks the time and I got to know her and shoes. She was lucky we're both lucky because we both benefited from the friendship. But you know the fact that we knew each other in big and we're friends. That was a lucky thing for, because you didn't have anybody to help remove and there on institutions set up to help noticing you some was where the other we are thinking about it was. She was also friends because she was very iconic character in the

these and fifty's allay you know a vampire offers came on, and nineteen fifty four. There was nothing like it on television and if you look at the average show that was on television and nineteen, fifty four, it's it's early Ozzy inherit. I mean it was the fifties, but it was really still the forties. It was. You know, people think the fifties they ve thinking at a very late fifties in the very early sixties, Elvis really readings piquantly. Fifty seven- and it was a very primitive time and she's in this low cut, dress with seventeen in ways that Megan really off color jokes. There was really nothing like her on television. It was a local show. It was only in LOS Angeles and within two months. She was in time and Newsweek wow and life

it was a big splash, and so she became friends with a lot of flamboyant homosexuals that were a part of that sort of underground bohemian culture in LOS Angeles at that time, and when she passed, I was through they lay coroners office listed as their contact and so for about a month. I was getting these goals, it is tragic, set the generic gay men from the fifties, but it was. I I just have this measures a boot data. Its Orlando divine calling I thought they all have the same and I swear to Christ. I wish I say that I got your name from tulip develop into just beside myself. You know its cotton smiles, gave me or not,

I need to talk to you. I catch your neighbour from from Butterscotch lie. I need to talk about a mile up. This topic, where she buried now she is we, he was laid to rest in the I'm Hollywood forever. Sumptuous forever out lies not only issued Hollywood forever cemetery, and this is not on it. There was not intentional, but one of those who knows you wanted to be reminded all that stuff. You don't need to know the plot that she has through. No, not intentionally she's right in front of daring, Mcgovern. Oh, why he's always on her tail? That's really data decision night. They did such an amazing job, revitalize Hollywood forever yeah. It's really just kind of a cool place to just go came from him friends, but that there are really

like the hole in the movies that they do during the summer and it's such a great asset replay variable for people who don't know said, has they they in its reason I love living in LOS Angeles. I really do I couldn't you know when I was a kid I grub watching like emergency Swat, Swat, Adam Twelve and at least Jack web shows, and they all they're all shot a location and allay, and I just like in the Brady Bunch ears like I want to live there whenever one of the live in New York, I always wanted to live and allay were when I was a kid growing up in Massachusetts. I was I that's where I want to go and you you, you go there to the whole adverse arbitrary and they show movies at night on the side of a mausoleum. It's so good Hamley. I live in them

replace yeah. This is like a like. Nobody does Halloween the way allay. Does Halloween damaging like it's just nobody comes got. I saw. I saw the exorcist on the side of the mausoleum first and espionage, and it's just like you go it's like the sun. Just goes down. Everyone brings blank, the launcher. As you had a picnic, you see a fucking great We on the side of a Hollywood. Fur is literally the first place I went to when I came here. Really I wanna go out, it would seem very big adventure. There seemed of the dead there. I smoke some pot and watch wholly mountain which I do not recommend doing I recommend watching wholly mountain stoned, ETA cemetery, it'll messier, my my my oldest daughters. First outing, I believe, was we Turkey is he died of the hunter and how they would, but I said to finance it at my manager. I said you gotta go this thing, it's great isn't yeah I have a really good friend and that Muslim, I don't think I'm gonna go Billy early. I guess that's true. There's still people that head lives that areas the it's weird,

that's why I didn't go for the first year because I live right next to I lived on central and Willoughby just right next to the cemetery analysis, I think not enough. I could do that. I didn't. I never really liked cemeteries and I I finally went I by my bike enough to air traffic was great, and just there was this when the best experiences of my life, and then when I was leaving only while I should come to this every time and then someone Hunt hard, and I turn my head and I crashed my buy em like just tumbled over all these raised more all you know. Orthodox rush out. I got just like captain in the corners of each one hunted down and

do not hungry. I didn't fell down faced by now, as if I was it's brilliant ideas. My address as a child was nine cemetery. Street wound was just as curvy, where this is actually true. Little curly wrote in my hometown of Hope, Dale Massachusetts and at the end I lived on the corner I lifted the these. These are everything I've got to tell you it's true. I lived at the intersection of Cemetery Street and Hope Street you gotta my facebook page in the photos is a photo of the sign I at the end of the street across the street, ended and then there's the cemetery at the end of the street lived my friend, Russell Putnam, Russell Irving, Putnam.

His initials were all right, Son hundred across the street, from a cemetery- and we have this big gang of kids in my neighbour we grub. We just go in the cemetery and play on our bikes. Does it was closer than the park we're just like ones dinner, six five? This is goes amateur and my mother still has its big article. They wrote the local paper hoped ill Village, monetary prayers were children play. I couldn't help it really allow that way. When I did and I will outline my bike that happen. You gotta, say Marian in long ago. You know Tangley and Turks varied, bore town over, but right next to where I lived and Knowledge Jack Arrow, actually a lot, a famous alcoholic Rafe everyone is saying: a grand head alcoholics. We had em, we have eight there's a frog pond up there and I would go up to the cemetery catch frogs. All all you would and I learned to drive taken aback the term Soulier, all the

arose. Onstage. There is really very bags of frogs. These no shoes is banned. The world muddy, toes talent, you put, those rocks downstream, Kennison eaten cope above smuggle them in the frogs thousand diversion. Are. These toad sounds comes going to close the first guys the books and give us an animal. I know Shit Tom knows Comedy Tom's great. I know I'm just from you know how, through a dearth of ESA sketch, fasten Enola performing a bunch, I never comedy. Never get reform of the Old Cobb's Emily performed at the airplane hangar. That is, that the new cap as well, there is the old cars in the old Old Cobb's, which was where it used to be on a legendary cluppins emphasis. Go on unions. Readers to lose weight on the work is right next to like heavy time doughnuts and Tom Book same Kennison, unlike nineteen, eighty four or three

and seemed just stated this bit about the guy. The donor. Storing extorts again, you know, is in there you go and earn extort, make it done as it making donors just bring into being there one day like hey I've, Kronos you're, hang out when we get to the crawler reaches to get a color comes out with me my daddy want, I wonder, is Google Chrome, Am I watched you do so much cocaine somewhere, he's snorting a cloud the fear of clowns, anything other than the value of these clowns, these goods, but I'm sorry about your above. What the citizens cause you you did. He pay the simpsons for it for awhile yeah, like Co. Uk we pay. This is nothing but how it can. Now You know this. That there is, it was kind of aid is in the news, because the ratings of the show of gone down, which I mean, listen- twenty three seasons of twenty one, twenty two things: I don't

I mean. Obviously, ratings of everything has gone to. Of course, I've, although I do feel like nonetheless couple years. What I've seen on the show and and tell me I might be wrong about this, but it feels like so they ve hired a bunch of Ex Harvard Lampoon Right, who are purposely making references to things that no one watching will understand unless they went to Harvard

I will say this and I have three daughters. There are currently two seven and are you still working on this and I did a voice and so over? There is over there last week to do a dvd come into my vote on the lives on my children's soul. I have not watch the show since I left really. I just I lived it twenty four hours a day for seven years and I've just there's. There will always be something else I wanna watch run. You know I just I I I can't comment with any sense of authority about what's going on, I'm not! I don't, and I don't. I dont, not love the show I'll. I love it. It's a part of my life,

but I just like an end? I don't I don't like I'm never watching that shove again. I've just like like it's like any show that you love than you fall off, and I guess I can watch. I told them I gotta catch about eleven sees that's already, on the essence of this way. You want to run the Simpsons red and restore you gotta. You know exactly because you went on the Simpsons ride for seven years. We are universal studios Halloween, not last Sunday, in like we're going on the citizen's right. I said something like Yahoo Dillinger mediating undergoing whenever you like I'm not I'm these people who are ill a here we go it'll be like going to work, just meant a little little more queasy yeah, but it is not. I will, let me say in their defence: you really don't know how hard it is to come up with stories when you ve got twenty three seasons behind you of twenty two episodes season, and then you get to the point it like. We did that we do that. We did that in any

the point of like boys do that with bar, but we haven't done in the LISA and then you know there are. There are only so many ways to refract and I'm not negative about. I know I know you're not being negative about that, and the network is also changed. The format of the show or used to be a three actual one out of four at show, which I think is conducive to good storytelling so that they do they believe it or not for a show that is as well oiled is that they still sometimes find themselves fighting an uphill battle. I left for a cobbler, isn't what I just felt like. I was just I felt gun I fellow came time to come up with the episode for the next season and I had nothing- and I just I was just like- I think, I'm I think I'm just done a really miss performing in, and I was also a big fan of myself and the kind of wanted to get back to that. Did you write the Joker Monster put card and while it that joke

in my monster put card in while my favorite jargon that episode, that is, from an episode called without there's gonna brand new Badge Ochre homeward. Basically homer starts a home security company which, in all the episodes, come. Your experiences in life. That's why you do get stories as leisure alive. Things are gonna happen to you, you're right about em, my wife and I bought our house and the first thing you find out you live by us and allay. Is you have to get a private security comes the police on enough there. There are people that are waiting like Kayo these and so that we make sure, isn't west academic and then just they come over your house and it's like a well. What do you want to work on a programme to you? Wanna get as it were. Another one that you saw me over. The form is good. Only assure you guys, your question: do you like rape area there are some countries? Do you have a monkey sent,

I dont think I need one where you gonna do in the apes. Take over that's a pretty good boy. You may becomes old contact stepping up little balls of raisins all over the house. Don't touch them, so we came up with that and then there was a commercial for homers. Aspirin shield, which was always company where a monster breaks and on a woman, an inspirational comes into because most of us fresh goes. You always of a friend with Spring shield, and he gives him his car to the modesty goes monster put in wireless. I didn't write the jug I didn't know who I saw that they get their colored test, those who wrote that Yo Yo Gambro and nobody could remember it. I had a tracking down because it was so funny. It was Tom Gammell of gambling process and I just love that joke ourselves do what you're doing and commercial

there's a monster in the commercial, but the monster is real and because I understand that the commercial is a monster is in reality the view that he's gonna call him later airy men. Very. How long will it take to write as citizens episode in those soup tenacity of five to six? We should get no, that you break a story for a week. Then you write in outline for a week. Then you come back, do notes and the outline and you get to east to read the script. You come back and then they spend like three to four weeks, rewriting the script and what was was there a story like a great place to work? If you think your words are precious cause, it'll get because its hamburger, what's the just literally get used to read it, then ok, one interior. What do you want? I mean it's just like: don't it's it's a great cause. Ninety nine nine times out of a hundred your words that pressure right. So it's a great. Was there a story limit? You could never get pushed through that

really thought. Well, yes, I wanna do a story release, it became Garth and I just thought it would be a natural story and I just could not sell it. Couldn't get it through ah tried for seven years, but that's like you know, that's the next logical step after her being coming right here is perfect and part of it was right at the beginning. Right when I started was right when Columbine happened and God had a bad there, wasn't there weren't Gough, but they got ascribed that in that kind of queered it for a couple of years, and then I just couldn't, sell it and then LISA getting into port. Which is another that they didn't do that again. The natural I mean in today's father issues is in today's porn soaked world The internet makes it so easy only way to describe it. I was I know what I was at the HBO Emmy Party and I saw Sasha Gray at the ape and I looked at her and then I looked away like you, don't want to see her. You don't want to see

you and think that you recognise her and then I thought the Pope knows who she is taught you too, you can avoid it now. You can turn your computer without it thing a young girl did choked. Personally, it is you are at the point of like this. We do not use into that weird fetish more. I don't think I dont think this noise should ever get made during sex. Like that's not it is that you He had death rattle now, when it ma very close. Now to like the girls with no skin, we were running out of we're running out of extremes to push its pretty much. It's gonna be like the Hell Razor guy, just naked mutton heads that beset abide such as naked future, I think our yea other guy time to play with your clitoris on whom the checking Look the vagina exactly

among the box, becomes a delta pay. The puzzle via. It is amazing how quickly human beings are left to their own devices. They just drill down. Can we go? That's like the old We believe a guy in a desert island in an hour and a half open mud go you're, your wife sue. What an interesting job who we are Like most of you, why are you in my head? I wish I had anchored on the fact that they gonna driving at the HBO Emmy burning with such a great big. It gives us the possibility of such a great getting back gang. Your grandmother was look I've, never gonna work and HBO, but my wife, but your wife was when I had my first like big. Hence it that the United Talent Agency and ninety Mandy for your wife Sue was one of my agent,

literally couldn't get I couldn't get off the highway. Gandhi did the Disney lead, and I and my group is that we as apply bag, relate to reduce it but you told an amazing story at Largo, where you're in the car, their kids and one of them had two p m. Then you had the the Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. We were on the highway, which there could be any story. We were on the highway and my daughter was really little and really had to pay, and it was like literally couldn't get, couldn't get off the highway under did Disneyland and an oversight. Redeploy bag relate to readers that we just like. Ok, go in Essen to buyers and she nearly fell. As I see it, what did you drink a fish tank and then she's upset dieting

they're. Just this is great picture like and then she's making some big call it she's on the phone holding like a gallon bag of baby p o you never know what the people on the other end of the phone or doing very strange, because I am doing this show it meltdown now called carnival with their with, cannot have a cap nor and I'll be on the phone, and, unlike look, we need to get to guys they dressed up as clowns to do this. One thing it's a celebration of the lowest run, the show business ladder and I'm on the phone in the car the Mai will get a call and you're just the M score saving up rate. We need a bull horn and clouds with a knife, hole or others at data gold. I do. I do want to one dive. So many of your bid that live the back of my head glad one of us has no

I like I always loved died. Knots can never be a prank collar iron gray, start yeah, great Britain and then I'll closer the really sweetheart. I like grub, loving guy, not done ass, one, the Emmy every year he played ninety five on the integration when the Emmy every single year and his voice was so incredibly specific that I realise that he could never make a scene phone call. I'm sure you'd like to their niceties board up at four in the morning and dirty bathrobe unnoticed pick up the phone. Are they gonna do the bedroom window or not? So whenever I did his voice on the Simpsons, and I ended up my friend, Larry Karasowski, who wrote Ed wood, will ask our dinner his writing partner and their very good friends of mine, and they were due showing that goes to Mr Chicken and oh yeah of him. A very.

Rated movie very, very funny movie and- and I was on this little panel target- DA nuts and his daughter came up to me and said I guess I've heard that bit of yours on. I heard it on the on the raw dog that bit you did about my father and I just ten stop. And she would always so funny who you, you must really hate your dad very sweet. We're gonna go the carnival. So that you can do it meltdown once a month and that you are outdated. I got Idler Dana Jangle Data, Diego you're a damn it and will do some douche bag realtor. What the fuck I dont know is a douche bag, but it's safer sums

Well! Thank you so much for coming on age. I could talk to you for four more hours, but I won't because we don't have the disk space for it all right. Let's sets down the lane. Technology go with you You can't know if it's not recorded, it's not real. Nobody, I'd love to have you on the show again. Ok, good aright enjoy burrito everyone mansion Relax goes well, there's a narrow toxins being slowly pumped into the room and that's where getting our masks. Leaving noticed tat com, This is a sort of an artist podcast has brought you buy, hovered dot com, hovers domain, name, registration and management. That is simple for ten percent off your new domain go to HIV are dot com, Slash noticed.