Luckily editing podcast number ten. Seventy two, I hope you're doing. Ok, I'm sending you happy thoughts and goods tidings. I don't know I just can bring myself to say vibes because it just I don't know, that's not part of my lingo heavy good vibes. I don't know, but I guess ultimately, if I'm really breaking down it is they are. I am, I guess they are vibes of the good kind. I guess they are vibrations, good vibrations. If you will, I am I'm kicking up good vibrations and I'm sending them Your way, aright exhortations- I don't know this- is getting to free form, improv here guys and I'm just not comfortable with my word association skills, so and seem anyway, I hope you doing well again. I really appreciate listening the pod right now during this bill.

Time line that we have all dropped into. But let's talk about making stuff right. Maybe you have time to make stuff now? Maybe you do if you don't only find totally understandable. If you do- and you are great- you can send us events that identity that com- you can email us and let us know about the thing you're making, I will try to to get it on to let people know about it right, like Sagey who writes, I picked up a guitar when I was nine, In a few years ago I started releasing my own music. Finally, at twenty two over these two five tracked EPA, I'm proud of title of gods and kings. The title comes from a number of songs being written in if a logical allegory from King Arthur to Athena, draw major inspiration from a real I'm on tape, my friends just say it sounds like an indifferent soundtrack. The entire epee was written, recorded, mixed and mastered by me.

Find it under my name on streaming, a major streaming services or through my instagram, at Sagey Farouk Power, which is as easy. I J Ai F, you are? U K A w h, Sagey for recovery. So a great job sagey. I mean listen to to get to experience like everything top to bottom to the pudding out to putting out you're you're, I will mean that just has to feel like such an incredible accomplishment. Did that you will you get to stand on every level, how it gets powder, how the the stuff gets made? What an incredible experience I am, I will go, listen to of gods and kings is as I have done with this intro. So congratulations and twenty two nice work cash. I wish learn the guitar with everything lesson

Final are deterred your forties, but I feel like nine, when your brain is just so much more pliable. It should be just be so ingrained in your hands playing guitar. So congratulations and well done events at eighty twenty dot com for anyone else for four things that you're making this episode is imaging puts. Who is british as she's british, an amazing actor she's been in a lot of really cool stuff by the way I'll just go through. She was in before vendetta. She was in twenty eight weeks later she was, Friday night, by the way she has a million grants, but I'm just I'm giving system highlights that you? U pricing! She was in pop star, never stop stopping and she was in black Christmas, which is a really fun movie haven't seen it yet and she's in. I know that much is true which Catherine Hon was in, who was on the package last week.

Also in a movie right now called very M which leading I watched and we loved Jesse icebergs in it, and it is, I don't want it go out and too much because I don't want to give it away. It is sort of a sacrifice, psychological thriller, that's great and also imaging told me that she is working on. She was actually working when, though, when the quarantine, when into effect, why The last man, the tv version of why the last man, which is what am I We're comics? It was it's a brain, cable,

p a Gara comic and it is isn't apocalypse story, but it's so good. So I'm so excited that they're making that I'm I'll be excited for them to complete that, but by very M is available and veto d- and I know this much is true- is on HBO and HBO Go slash. Hbo now imagine was just wonderful to talk to. I talked to her and she was in the UK again credit to zoom for making these possible that we have the technology to keep doing these. So there it is- and here is the ideal antipater s number ten. Seventy two with image inputs as we

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And we need some predictability. It's just trying to adapt to a middle end when things are unpredictable, then it's a then were we don't know what the fuck no. I know it's so to itself fascinating the levels of control that we have an unbeknownst to us and in times like these are like. While I was on the control freak and I always thought I was at the loves everybody else's problem in both of us, an illusion told me enough by the way, our laughing, because I listened to your point, costly It is working, Phoenix Joker and your charming about tango lions. But I don't know you which are there endangered, so you can't yeah yeah. You wanted had tattoo, but now I guess killer you ve related to Karuna Virus right open to answer. I didn't realize languid, oh my god,

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only they don't seem advertising they're. Just like a spiny anteater there like out there like a shell there like a net spiny, there's there like ants armor, that their shout ice yeah, and so they don't, they don't seem like that would be. Tasty, treats now and ate. It seems so sudden at they seem harmless sinner facing climate, the silly sort of that's what it was. They bade had enough. They were being nature is little seated armor clowns in their life I can work well, you will show you how serious the shit is no true. I have forgotten about bad. I'm well You guys worried that everyone would have liked them, reminding you and then you really. Yes, yes, yes, I know, but why

I have another favorite animal, but its extinct in so there's no way that it could cause any pandemics. We can't it's called a gun for fear and begun for fears were basically these. They were in a class of animals, come probe ascidians, their Alex related and so rather than elephants have these trunk sooner with their little nostrils at the end, and Gulf appears they're, fucking, so cool Indeed, these like shovel faced elephants, so they have like they have like these shovel face. And they look so weird, but they ve been extinct for you know tens of thousands of years certain economic platypus lookin like a big, they don't have a big, it literally looks like they did their face. Colonel looks like up almost like a snake,

shovel like a big they just they look what I got all the it doesn't it lets very off putting at first, because it looks like something you recognize, but but different and weird means we gonna bring them back some were useful. Actually, this is what I want to deal with. My quarantine demonstrate our arab rebreathed and introduce Gump appears back into the air. What are the rules in London by the way? Are you I would imagine, you must be to leave to go to pharmacy or market or something. But then it's a thing. Do you guys know as much as you can limiting any threat? to the grocery store or pharmacy, so trying to do like a great stories shop for a week or two weeks at a time and then pharmacy. Anything it pick up. Some drugs

and then exercise which seems to be kind of elastic hated term, because people are going to the public's trust me. Don't you we care about my running gear, better to meet Baron you know I I I can't get it. The people had been pretty it especially the last few days, there was a more stringent lockdown, I'm asleep Force Johnson has been put in intensive cab and probably his stable. So? I think that was a real shock to to a lot of people, because it brought closer to home, Missus figuring from watching every night, obscured the tv and the news, and I think that it is yeah. That's solidified. If people, men and women whether a meaningful to outdoor activity over there right now is it. So this is a creepy, a thing, but it's beautiful a minute so nice out, which is I'm I'm kind of happy about it on a fan instead of being inside with the sunlight outside and it makes a whole

I'm in a lot nicer. So I'm ok without even those ironic but yeah, it's not bad springing up. The spring summit now and that, if it is, it is a strange situation, I've noticed most of There is a generation above who had just been rebels they just when quit dab routines. I thousand percent agree it is it is. It is the it is the next generation and I and I feel like it, probably has something to do with the fact that it is almost a case where their wisdom and experiences working against him a little bit because they ve lived through a lot was gone through it never like, while it's just like the flew like while its neck wait. A little bit different They just feel like all this is we ve been through worse weren't? You know- and I think that they're just also

said in their ways and really don't wanna be told by what they can and cannot. Do. I now say: Truman my dad's for Northern Ireland and the economy. Are you lived through the troubles in car bombs and all that stuff? So I think so idea of this just seems at arm's length, budgets, super naught to super right there I find the funniest thing is that I you know like a squirrel through the suggestions on instinct m because know I follow a lot of guitar piano, accounts and artists, and so I is kind of like discovering used up yet it keeps trying to feed me like, like there read just random people on Instagram that I have no idea who they are and there in court, but still trying to do like there is. What are you now is not the time, for instance, impose in your Fuckin quarantine backyard, just be a person for Christ's sake? Would I know I know

and it's really fine line all this live instagram staff between listen, there's a Willie Watson's music he was He was originally in old, shoe o Chrome medicine show now he's got a solo career for a long time. Now that he's been in, life performances which are extraordinary and beautiful and covers of John Pride, and all of that and then, on the other. On the flip side, you ve got people who are just doing like a system in seeking and it's a little bit street, then it is a good thing that makes it said. The thing that the kind of makes me sad about it is like. Oh, I don't. I think this is your coping mecca, I think this is all you know like the environment has total change, but human adapted angered is still doing the same stuff from eight from the regular time line from a month ago and all the weird pose is in there

We actually never needed other people anyway, but they must meet with a screen. Totally fine gets rid super weird, but it fascinating to watch humans, behave where they do there, but if that makes us people feel better then you know what then then so be it. I didn't. I don't know if you're on, if you go on red it at all, but what interesting is that they have like? I am I don't care what its carbon cycle? maybe it's like red it public access or something where they will pop up the random live stream of a person in you know in their living room, and it's been so wonderful how it's like positions in DJ's and stuff and they're getting in their living room like either spinning or are some I watch. Some guy played bass for a while practicing tape and it's just fun to sort of like to watch people attend of our The gleam processing all doesn't like water. What else to do? And then Stop non read it like: a hundred thousand people are just watching them right

It is so interesting what people full back on what their inspired to doing. I doesn't this really great poker aspect We as a group which is great and good together, Helen for just like a scale or knows very dynamic, it was a joint cylinders, is a poor, constitute cylinders and he was saying how, because he is a writer- and it was a letter to students aware he teaches circuits and he was talking about. Now is the time to record at all. If you can so even attacks mess. Yes, you are sending to your friends all the emails you're, getting all the pictures, you're taking make sure you recording it can check, as this is a historic, time in it, so easy to kind of neglect. Those things that every year as funny, like all the different points of view as to how to kind of think about it and think about this time, robins be overwhelmed by them

well situation. That's a great idea actually, because I know that there are no they're apps, probably an android definitely- and I owe S men are essentially diary apps where you can pull in pay yours and audio and right entries, and maybe for people who are just I'm for something to do just create the real, active vision audio and literary journal, even if it's a paragraph every day dream of consciousness, and then you know, look at it in a year. Yes, so true it so true, that's real! If so, what does it does the same thing? as I keep saying to drop its a drop in the ocean amount of time are being asked to just obey the rules, but it seems pretty endless right now for shawls, but especially when you know most people are like rules, don't apply to me. It's me, I don't gotta, I'm not gonna get you can't. I'll meet. You know like we're very much yeah like women A lot of people have been condition. The sort of thing like that

everyone else and not me, and this is a thing like that aid is not a factor. This means you too, True, we have a habit of doing. I will never happened to me. It's it's a terrible thing to fall into. Will you working out anything when this went down? I was just about to start production on why the last night, in love with a comic book, so great and as wonderful as a real fan. For this comic fantastic. The lifting of the virus, is big men dying men are very vulnerable to those seven snickey. No, I just got here go to New York actually and and with my five suitcases for seven months, whatever then done and the item with them. You got word they're, gonna component, obviously like every other production and job.

The world, but it son, it's pretty, not sayin its questionable found something that people will want to see. Oh, yes, they absolutely will have the point. Yeah I'll, give you three reasons: number one brain cave on, whose amazing number two was a great comic series and number three. I really do I mean it can't be it's not a coincidence that a bunch of you know, contagion, style movies. Are people are watching right now, it's true in a corner of flax. Back and experience I mean I'm, I'm excited about it because I just think it so much more than empty. That's a virus and sent remember what it explores by weight that is so cool your love, a character in a level we other characters in the actors involved and will about some. It is good that is more of it your political idea and an exploration wroth and just like people die,

everywhere? We really are in the midst of right now, for you, I would imagine you guys are off just indefinitely until early March, yeah mean pretty much swift, we're all in close contact. And TAT S actually really really interesting how ethics, especially and like the people, not production, everybody reaching out to make sure everyone's okay, and I think that just goes so far as net beyond the one where every with checking in on everyone's well being says more about it. It is everybody You know it. Despite the acknowledging women's between this thing for a long time in Santa yeah, I think that's pretty kind and sweet, but it's hard to say I mean I know a lot of like steer to productions shot early in those one being picked up here. Probably ever on its pretty difficult. I get with what you do with this punk cost. It's kind of is a blessing. You can still do it. Despite the second sentence, I'm impressed.

We lucky, because the television show that I do for walking dead. We will just did it here where I'm sitting for the last three we We did it here, and so we were able to do that, but I am able to do a actually been insanely busy, I'm doing podcast and then just sort of still pitching ideas. That for things that are in development and so did, I have definitely been lucky in terms of jobs, The only thing that I cannot do is stand up. I had to cancel my stand updates by our friends who are creating these like private zoom, just rooms where their inviting three people in their basically just performing it from there into what one of the shells in it actually worked pretty. Well, I was by really yeah, so maybe that's the thing will have to start doing, as I have no idea what that's gonna be a thing. People will be They will have to start doing. As I have no idea what that's gonna be a thing. People will be comfortable coming in one.

I got a my head around by around kind of rings. True of the idea that these days without time, you so often have to make myself tape right. You have to make a tape Robin if you, if you're on Australia, Aaron unveiled by doing a thing in New York and have to like do something in your in it so bizarre because the quality of the air like the weight of the air is dead. And in an audition remoteness. Understandably, at a stand up event than it is kind of in your own, safe space incidents It's like caught unwilling areas or something it doesnt. Quite he doesn't give you the adrenaline. Jim likely now all, but you can take that you can use the best take though you know you could you can send in the best taken you have to be like book. I got it in addition, in a bright deodorant, yeah matter, you don't have to on the other it if you don't feel like it really diet. You can just be a free woman. So great I was, I looked at your Wikipedia page

fast just to see like where you heard everything, and this I'm. I might actually cut this package because I'm so embarrassed to admit this. I think you were born literally the day I was being handed. My high school diploma really thought of yes, because it that I saw your birthday I graduated high school in eighteen. Eighty nine and I saw your birthday I go June. Third, that's probably around when I would have been graduating and so I looked it up on Google. What day of the week I was in, it was Saturday, and I feel like that might have been accepted oh, that's crazy. I really was The same time I dislike shot out about the giant you would I get back way just out in the same way that the diploma was shooting out into my god. Tat would be cosmic, wouldn't rate people often made me feel like dammit. I am really getting old and that feels weird

I was I was fully grown like could well well yeah. Could I voted? No? Actually I was still seventeen so, but that that still like that that really like I was like all this is really cool. Oh my god, I feel age now. It is aimed at night I mean I just can't compute the people are born and, like ninety ninety eight, I just say that any kind of name is off to me, but I am like what that doesn't work. This is clear. People born in the two thousands are just pull on: peep adults now enabling a wild for I do not know the nineteen hundreds at all and there finally really is unrestrained should think about like the albums? There were huge, you were born or like the number one. When you go much actually dont know if I should find out, but I love, I love the idea that there were teenagers whatever like what we

Listening to you when you were seventeen, what would have been that you go too far? Well, then I got I had it so I had a kind of a wide berth of. I did listen to pop music, so there was I listen to like glare metal and pop music, but also british new wave. Why and end and I'd also like just like weird progressive, Brit Rock. Like I love exe, see was abandoned, like one of my favorite bans and there are really interesting banned because the lead singer in Partridge, Like pretty early on in their career, develop stage fright, and so they never performed live. So let me just write- and Upham recorded and then I think he I think they just kind of forgotten after that, give they never. Play them. One life yeah

rem, but then I was also listening to like Bell Biv Devoe, which might have been to eight thousand nine hundred and ninety so yeah it was. It was a very fertile time for music because all they're all these different subgenres of music, like hip hop, was evolving in you know, of alternative music was evolving in and you know so Yeah, I don't know you never gets that? Never let her know he has when you look at an album like I really go into pavement, Yes go, and I remembered the specifically by them and probably was like ninety ninety six and its just like, while that so crazy that you just a little can rolling around when that that album with huge was that yours then pavement was that. I'm! No! When I was seventeen, I was a big Smith sand. So I was, I was the queen is dead. Was my album, but Morrissey these days has pretty deep.

This opinion is about everything. So, though, that's interesting that you say that, because one of my best friends April, who, by the way a couple years ago, went to England met a bread had a whirlwind romance cut to a few months, later they're married and she's living in in Brighton one, and it was such a Morrissey fan like saw him in kind. Hundreds of times and ended up tour around cities. He was performing in and like after some controversial stuff, basically had like a break up with him. Like God dammit. I love your music, but I just don't feel, feel aligned with you any more and act from like the diner Morrissey Fans and she was like TAT, but I just don't. I don't feel comfortable anymore. So, oh, it's difficult! It's difficult! That's a pretty your question. Isn't the sort of when the values comment? The artists?

way or the artist process, especially always film makers. We all know about, and incidents on, sinister, things we hear about them in Asia, yet that they ve made masterpieces in it. Some interesting to think about water It's my son is Smith's owners, Morrissey Solo, it probably miss Smith Song. I love still l that's on rank and that's also on. I think it's only the Smiths and cemetery gates with a great song so poorly be those two right I remember when I was in when I was in high school, because I also, some friends who were into very alternative, like super alternative music, which at the time

Smith's and like the Smith and cured Pesh mode, they were very alternative in the states that word there was not like pop music in the media and the like depression. I didn't really Tipp until like personal Jesus, the next couple years, bike governed in a coma was like Joe reared in high school coolly, shit hanged in stormy, big. You heard this one before There is a light that never goes out. You know just has ah Clayton. Boy thematic. This this kind of, like you know, I'm very sad and feel embarrassed. Sad and now it s called wild and getting away with it would daffodils your back pocket like sounds rule the dissidents of dislike kind of sad, the sad boy lyric but with a very like jaunty only said yeah disco, my colleague I don't know what it is so cool. It's all over to to run down. That's

the number one songs of each month nineteen, eighty nine a curious to see if any of these mean anything to you starting agenda every rose as adults or by poison. You know, that's all Don't know that some well ordered it will point. Was like a glamour. Rock band in ever rose. Has its thorn? Was there like ballad nowhere? bad boy like it apart, but every rose has its door. No, like you gotta my prayers. Bobby Brown, a thing I don't feel Collins, two hearts That's gonna means something possess fail. If oil yeah it's bill coins,

Pull Abdul Debbie gives an employer Abdul kind of battle that out in February and March bangles and then a lot yes, the woodwork bangles means a lot. The bangles is good. Bangles are amazing, rock set she's got to look. Find your cannibals drives me forever. We ve been down like a prayer, was nineteen. Eighty nine ice, YAP Anchovy the day that you were born? the number one song you I don't think you're gonna know this was a sober. Restart, nay, Michael Damien, who recorded a cover of the sun. Rock. On KIDS Rock n roll, and I think it was for a quarry fell. When Corey Haim Movie. The quarries now, because there was an interview, reasoning with the quarry from stand by me,

It's a lot of sense. I'm known, I know more about all the quarries now, because there was an increasing with the quarry from stand by me. Yes or no. We need you to my only other quarries around. I feel a lot of course, and I noticed LISA Simpson and the Simpsons referenced the quarry hotline for long, I am as a child. I didn't know what that was, and you're gonna thirty. I now understand yes, yes, yes, the class accordingly I don't care she's addicted to call you nine hundred number at yet they drastic the other world. Worries- and I guess Feldman's years before the official Corey spokesperson, so that was they were born. Then bed meddler that Mr Wynn, beneath my wings, using song then you got merely vanilla, very controversial ban stuff, I don't know. If you remember, No idea, ok! So much

vanilla were these two dudes? I think their names, a Robin for Greece. These, like, I think, model deeds. And after they had like one Grammy's and stop it had a bunch, its arms. It came out that they were lips, thinking everything other people who were the idea, but I swear to cry feel like I should be willing on a rocking chair talking to you. I feel so all right now. We merely they didn't seeing their own goddamn saw the boy did they get caught if your board look up the Billy Billy drama, because it I dont know if anything like it has happened in music sense, but they were like Dub, the biggest bad one of the biggest bans in the world, and then all of a sudden like it's there, actually not singing any of their so nor by goes orbiting independent next month and learning everything I can about these guys spending.

The underlying like they now like a little passed away and one of them is still alive. I dont know what they're doing out, but they had a ton of Derek. I'm of hit songs and then almost was just kind of vanished. Mediately once what's that I think they probably I or give back or due to saying the songs or produce them, though got some data, Jackson and eighty nine, some Billy Jaw or we didn't start the fire was eighty, nine lovely, wouldn't listen. Because in the year end and princes back dance pronounce that debts was actually crammed full of gold. Yes, that was the time capsule of the year that you were born. Nice and so it is get tonight. Sakes star was number woman. I was born. That's that's great, which one was it the guide, the guy who was a soap stone Oh yeah, this kind was after Michael Damien Yeager, investing one means one without me, them mean something to well. I think it means hey kid.

Rock and roll rock on you know we're gonna get through this, I'm in the centre What does it mean that the day you're born the number one song is soap star, doing a copper? to be fair. This is the: U S, billboard hot one hundred I dont know what was going on in the british charts, Certainly, let's I mean I can look up, billboard, U K, yeah, maybe eighty nine in british music So the game you were born in it was oh, my god now so interesting. It was. Cover of a song by Jerry, the pacemakers called Fairy cross the mercy, and it was like Paul Macartney in the legends, a bunch of people but another copper.

No other cover. Yes, it's like I'm cheap. I love the Puma COD was involved, dummies, everything, spiders, everything's, ok, now, yeah, all you some really cool ones. You a simple matter that year you had mark omens who was in the soft l a it This is a really useful for you, because of quizzes that are happening right now, we're both getting a lot of knowledge about what was number one and eighty nine I mean if you find yourself in a virtual pop quiz eighteen, eighty, nine music, you are going well, that's the other thing is that Britain, it's such a pop culture. I know how China all our people I mean, I'm not. I had not been a drink or almost two decades, but I know that it so much a part of this.

There's a war people doing like like zoom pubs. What are they doing? quarantine eases. The term has been thrown around here, buncher morons and we have shot on all the parties in the restaurants all about. I think people are so ordering in some cases I can, but on the algerian drink, a lot of wine. My boyfriend- and I have just been going through- All of the wind has been united will it will have to really special day in the future and we just having on the Thursday night and it seemed tat. Stick man is a special day or do yeah, but your pop culture. Daphne, it's? U constraint, especially you know, England, when the sun comes out its roadmap to a flame to a palm so yes, it's it's airy without all of them open I mean the same thing in New York, raise new Yorkers, the going, but Thar culture Barras. So it's the epicenter earlier you can you really take two steps? You can

you can trip into a bar New York. It's it's gas, hop tell our really interesting. Where was reading about this recently were caught allow it is such a mystical, specific thing, and I wonder if you, if you don't drink, is it something where kind of does it still have an exotic sense to it, or is it just like people just talking to yeah like the knotted she'll rather than a drinker, and I just haven't been for a long time in it and it's boring to us because we are I know that there are a lot of some people who can actually just go and social eyes and have a pub solar, tea or coffee or something. But to me I just fine. The smell of a bar in just makes me and then also when people start getting buggy, they just get real close then they start like breathing on you. When they talk about air and then they, then they couldn't stop making sense and in its like, oh yeah, you can

need to be in it with them. For all of this, on your personality remain not forever. I totally get it. I took hold of January offer of bees, and I found I found a like gosh people can be super tedious and weed at each other on. This is like delusion. People operate within some depends. You get right now and you buddy is Look at this very thing is no weight. Was I like that, Oh my god did you know, I know who often never need to know I, by the way, my wife and I, by sheer coincidence, before you even but to do the podcast we watch Bavarian the day came out. Thank you, that's how I loved it and it is of a quarantine just in court. Team tail right eye,

it's it's very strange and its come to my mind that I suppose, no matter when you make a project it'll be critiques either at a festival or when it comes out, and therefore the context when it comes eyes was relevant and it'll come we apply to the project, so I would say the same for one year, super crazy because you know, and we made it it was. Really. The kind of prevalent ideas were the housing crisis to gender roles of yours.

Stability in society accepts a bit, but now it son, the ads, are totally different. Lens has been put on an folk person fruit for a second there. I kind of felt stupid talking about a film that we'd made. It just seems to be irrelevant. The last few weeks when I came in and is a lot to be paralleled fire with the foam and won't be for everyone and that sort of part of its were maybe, but he I think that the concept of being obviously isolated is something has been totally reflected, but also What happens when your job is taken away from you and your family is taken away free? What's your sort of identity that asylum, something which I think we're all questioning reflecting on in some way right

I hope you because I know a lot of people in India. I felt this way too were very hesitant to when everything started. Like me, I feel we are promoting, so there's so much really important stuff going on in the world? And I know, but then I I really do think that people appreciate the distraction of entertainment and they like the escape and it's your job, and you know it's. Ok like it's. Ok to. I mean cause we're in the same boat. You know asked when the best they can. I don't think anyone would fall. The person for like a lot of people really hard on this thing now to people understand that in order to you know like reads: darts the entertainment industry, which has been a flux, people gap. We can be watching stuffed in helping views that back into the economy and so it yeah. I don't know. I hope, there's no lingering feelings of. I feel weird,

going about a movie, I mean you were a reliable partner that you should yeah yeah. Exactly. I guess that's a big point is the number of people involved in it and and the fact that the cinema and oversee closed, just as we are reducing the fair which is one of those things that happen and if it means that a home people have a chance to see it more, potentially facile, listen, and it is something which you know where I think we're pretty pretty proud of it like it was such a gamble, something like that I wonder: how does that make you feel we should have just like horrified people? Will you kindly there's a humor? I guess we met with them, will be so in the zone of the type of staff that Liddy and I watched you know right, watch a lot of horror. Psychological thriller to still be in future black Mary type of laughing, so it it's. I mean it is

squarely in the zone of substance that we like. But the thing that I I'm just I don't wanna talk about details of it too much as I want people to take the journey of it. But I do think that I was watching and I would have liked. I'm thinking like this actually would make a really cool play, because the way it works again without giving too much away it. I think it will could totally work as a play great point because it also what it has at its core is needed. It's an absurd story, so weak and only absurd is playwrights out. There like UNESCO, or even none back here to something I bet you gonna fix. Right in, and I think that because of the Irish Sandra Bullock, Cuba to the folks behind it you're magically nuts but know it, they told lends itself to the stage and so spots in its introduction. Really cool idea had MAC. She thought of that yeah. Maybe

I mean who knows who knows how these things work, and I know their lawyers- and you know it takes a lot, but it is I just because of the way this sad is end the colors, Did I mean it just to me? I love what kind of cipher stuff that is able to do so by and I consider its I do consider its eye fire psychological thriller heading. We think a bit of both, I think, a mixed bag. I say psychological thriller because is about psychosis, but then you got this like without. It's much away. The boy and all about the more he entails that. So that certainly say fine, but I think it's gotta. It's going black on each. I think we're way I don't have you fellas. More Moore genre as a team, just seemed so I'll. Ask indicated right like if John

I used to mean movies like the Bob. It's now black mirror and something kind of slightly more I'd, know saree rule potentially whatever back. If you more people are getting more excited about genre is at playing field. Where is this sort of its less about gratuitous violence will go, but is more button The exploration of human nature under certain circumstances, open shoes will announce what we all come crave yeah, but I I love is maybe this is a way statement, but I love safe by the dozen real We have a lot of special effects and the reason that I love, that is because it forces it forces the filmmakers, the creators to paint a world without having the

luxury of like OECD. I monsters e g d, I'm not that I don't love that stuff, but the movies that use like one of the greatest doctor who episodes in history to me is in so called Blue which is all about the the bear, the weeping angels and I'm not a lot of special effects in it. It's just the way that the shots were created with these statues in a way that made it so creepy, and I just love the idea that people can paint a sigh fi ecosystem without a ton of credit. Some special affectionate. There's some trippy shit that happens by Gabby was alone. The idea that will actually I was for me still, the scary movie Ever- is the others, because it's only logical alike, stokoe movies, like that, will you kind of left trying to peace, together, something in this area as it does a haunting nature to something which it it's still.

It. Doesnt just live on the screen and lives in your mind on one could help him off your back, but have you seen knight of the comment of course yards a glass thing is nobody. I saw it they had it at the night Hawken in Brooklyn, one of the night it a few months ago, and I want to see it and also funny, because basically, the girls would beans holding out a huge, huge apocalyptic disaster and then they hope of their bikes, suddenly stopped booking. It is incredible: hair suddenly rage Where do you think it creates the mutants, and everyone turns into these piles of dust? These yeah yeah right now to cover this great like it's? It's it's funny that their gems in the eighties that at the time

and people like as just some weird John recalled movie, no one's gonna. Remember this and some of them actually like take routes and are still we talked about today. Autonomy totally, and I wonder it makes me think in item a couple. Joiner peace is that at the time were quite polarizing. Potentially that makes sounds no grand, though, before November cat but in the sense of on when something is an immediately like a door to relate above all law trusted, it takes time to find his audience and then becomes beloved in it. It seems so often these eighties movies, it back that's occurred. Yeah I mean especially with people like with generous myself. There is an established factor where we sorted member, remember like wow yeah. I remember one thing That was reality when that big hair just look like hair. You know

then I would imagine for you it's it's almost like me. Looking at stuff in the sea, Do you like wow what a crazy peak back to help people? were back then may I make an armed length. Thinkers obviously mean I think about my mom as a young woman during not decades, but it's it's really young. It's just just before me, really in just the colors vibrancy about use like when you think about when your child, anything about the past in black and white and anything, but the eighteenth society can crazy, hallucinogenic rush. Look at eight were Cockfield in and I think tat. That music producer told me once he said. Do you know why so to the music. In the end they really tomato Eightys was there was not a lot of low end. It was a lot of really high end. You know like especially like em. There wasn't a lot of outside of hypocrisy

a lot of base things, things were really high end, and he said the reason thing sounded so tiny in Tripoli is because the community producers are doing supper was doing so much coal That is how they were hearing the songs, that's great, the high end and it just like. Even that sort of a cultural thing we're gonna do before We totally different drugs in the seventies and that's where everything was so like sounds greatest. Ass could be, and you know like greasy, and so it is like, Had I deal that that hope, cultural movement is influenced by just the drugs at the crickets, with its many tasks. Take. I love that. I love that. Well, I know that you say that I feel it is that is that a boom box, radio and you're on your dress, her back there is that a tape deck it's an old school Cosette

might be a Billy vanilla tape in their already, like might be in there already act, fingers crossed. This. Might my boyfriend's got ass soon ass. You are all linked up around the house, but it it's. It fails us frequently. So you know you gotta just go back to basics, so you ve got you ve got the tibetan and TAT is up. You can get pick up a radio station. If you need to hear what's going on, I know it's untasted gonna get me a lot of those like mood. Dial switch, switchboard, stick ethic, even real. Have you discuss the first thing you're gonna. Do so. Let's say you know whatever it is weeks or a month or whatever it is MEG. Okay, everyone, you can go out if you can go out now and do whatever you want. Have you decide Are you gonna? Leave that day? Are you gonna stay in for awhile? Are you gonna do what the fuck I'm not staying for a while boss,

we can do is go see my mom because she lives in London to you, and I haven't done my moment out. I haven't seen them opposition, not gonna. I'm convinced that I'd want to wait till the end of his isolation period, so see them. That's gonna sentimental. They. But then I wonder I mean you know that is its assent so corny, but it so true about all the things he took for granted, all of the everyday activities or the great he'll rituals, and we had and you really miss them- a monk unkind of a solitary bird most of the time if not to say that I don't like being around other people in like being midst of all about to end it oh, very well and good to be the person you like I'm gonna, stand him read a book which is my favorite thing to do to a detriment. And it's interesting happened this time, because you do think well, you have

the well distinguish bigger, and I think we will we. We have all been so globally connected. I just hope that that lasts. I hope the bathwater doesnt just Caput at the end of this period, genuine. Hopefully we have some time. To go back on the world again be ass. You say, sir, it's a corny stuff. That rings true. Isn't it yeah yeah? I miss the fact that the other was one little cafe that I used hasty breakfast at every morning and I had a little writing ritual and I ordered the sapling every single day and that the Disney Land, which is a big ticket item but but owing to the cafe, is really like. I miss that so much I'm gonna be so excited to be able to go back and just sit down and have the same breakfast and see the same group irregulars and just now, adjusting its is whether or not you go every day or once a week whenever it is with that cafe its sense of certainty in that sense of, I will

be going back to that place and is we were saying at the beginning of our conversation. It's really fascinating. What happens? we feel uncertain new knowledge isn't being fed to store silhouette believe again is that the whole media question is men and until we kind of it's just this like open, ended, question mark right now and that some it's a lot harder to do. Something without a deadline right right. It far yeah it's interesting so far for now and eating my boyfriend bakers, banana bread. I will just eating stop all the time I mean it's shocking bright just keeps coming towards him I can't tell you how many times do I have a bullet cereal which I never do well, why not why not, why not have a workable cereal at three o clock in the afternoon is an interesting duty

Children, though we have a puppy, though yes the same, but he has he done Harry beguiled, here we have a small Harry child who is eating up a lot of attention. Thankfully, gap of anti, it's kind of interesting. How I mean, I think- it's a cash. It will be a whole. Love, station and the whole of our experience for folks are that you have kids bent the idea of this. This length of time is kind of it, some speak for nostalgia! Isn't it because it takes you back to a time beforehand, whereas instead you dont have these deadlines. You don't have that sort of immediacy. I knew you you're still able and yourself What can you say much, but it does I sense of time is reminiscent of light in Asia is slow strange. May I say that with someone as someone who doesn't have kids in it, hundred responsibilities outside of my home, but I know that when this first went down there, thereby bread, someone had said

Oh old, is probably gonna be a baby boom after this, and I kind of thought I dont know if people maybe they're about. Yeah, but I'm not sure that people like oh yeah, let's just make, maybe now in a pal, maybe I will be the I know all like divorce. Surely that's probably gonna be only a thousand percent yeah yeah I mean like its yeah. It's dead can about. People are now we're. Gonna be forced, is kind of like deal with their issues, especially their small change, I know not fund been there. What are you doing like so you're reading and you're you're eating banana bread, which is great art, is the am. I know it sounds like you're, just a caveman as intellectual Caveman, ass kind, married Oscar Wilde today, is there another create about with that? You have. Is there something that you're? You know

I mean all all of the above inner like painting watching movies. I just force Swiss Army now, for the first time we haven't seen, I was actually fantastic. I loved it resident if it's real they write dinner at its energetically, I'm cold rain. Tremendous greatly din makes the best, because you workers too, which is it can phenomenal show if you haven't seen it, which shall be called miracle workers attending haven't, began aged Edmund, Stoiber semi, and that sort of like black after each season is a different time, is a different story, with the same people. Only gonna have to see I'm on a big fan of sleep hashemi. That's crazy, thereby they're both great. So you you watch was army man. What else ice but I find wash the jinx funding. Was that succession I'm watching succession witches and tactic everyone

that we haven't started. We haven't watched it, yet it's really good. It's also just got like the best of the best act is an storylines, fantastic and completely absurd and Nicholas Bruin is so good. He said you have. You met him, I may be. You know it all. I think he's great he's really good and east his cousin Gregg, and it's just like everyone in this fantastic Sarah Smokin and Jeremy Strong and everyone. I fully that we think are now listen, Michael experiment isn't before, because its real people drowned but, like I know it's a bit heightened, but my wife. Generally, like we're watching the chilling adventures of Sabrina on networks like we tend to like

like anything that has like a weird supernatural or horror or some sort of weird thriller, but like real people drama is its difficult for it's difficult to really sit down in and folks can we get this could happen? You know when I now. I know it's interesting. Isn't it when you you couldn't drawn, something which initially did you seem so offer it just seemed at arm's length, is like an entirely different. Well then, I was a quiet place recently. Whatever it meant it was. It was just the connection with people having to adapt to something fascinating, yeah really really is yeah strange. Have you had have you start to think about it? All like, because now that the momentum of our lives has just like come too,

grinding halt, have you started thinking about like? Oh, you know when this is all through when I finish working on why the last man like these are the ideas of the types of things that I want to do, where the types of roles that I want to pursue liked. You think about your career in that kind of a tapestry or do you just sort of like? Is it just a case by case whatever Then you then sort of design. I guess he depends on India. These circumstances at very interesting, because I think it does force you to actually exist in the present again, not sound corny, which I do cause. I keep saying not sound corny, but this kind of thing about this time, where you don't necessarily mean take too much in the past of the future, because yourself, you so in the moment which has got its advantages, but in time Korea, I've never been the one to have a plan per se, but I certainly am

demented, troll, where I can in any job? Where were you really don't have much of it and the sensible knowing that son? I didn't want to roll back there and then, as times gone on, I think you do start can cultivate a trip around you or world around you and people of similar. Taste the. Hopefully I'm completely in your taste and without stuff, but I know film makers who I'd love to work with a team that serve the perennial famine and the things you look foreign and seek a bit, I think, felt, is gonna silly elaborate tried to to have some big plan. And implored anyway, because you just don't know like you, you jack, I mean maybe, What is interesting is now is certainly something as I've got an old aware. That's all you're, honest man,

once you ve changed your you're honest with yourself about another people about what you value twin, you're. Twenty. He is now earn and what you knew then compared to what we know now and how your world was actually the purview of. Being an actor at that age. It is so much more limited right on compassion. And now and you can start question what your responsibility is as an actor. Is it just acting please post it. You never use a is opposed to play this role on top of a person. No one of its interesting to know what it means wrong when you, when you deconstructed, I suppose you definitely pick cool stuff to work on so bad You you like when you hear someone's name when they start when they start stacking up credits and said they worked only go oh yeah, they actually pick cool stuff. I always kind think what

probably funding at the pretty cool to hang out with, because they have to actively choose those things, and so those must be extensions of their personality. Beguines warring all these different things I mean it is. It is sort of a road map when you start to put everything altogether yeah, it's nice. How often it happens where. You can do a film and they're, not filmmakers friend, he's also from Austen he's also into Europe as a whole group of film maker, who all bodies- and I won't say, Messina, more groups of actors nicely anything that say isn't. It sounds comedy troops as like you, everyone isn't it that, together in an you, meet people three people and can become quite peaceful, trying to be a part of that to say that you know that, becomes your new safety. Doesn't it becomes your new safe spot? So if the dangerous things to step on to something more shiny were you.

Actually ones have like a nice hair do and decent make up. I mean Deacon. Dozens of people make you look. Nice may should maybe consider thinking about doing more of that less like sweaty growing, all the time you, but you, I don't think I saw what I. What do you want to pay? A page was that you, most became a veterinary surgeon, but then quickly I said: that you know that was like one of those things. You say when you fifteen and although I was gonna be of that- and I was like I fainted his cap- had Goldwater stones, relieved in front of me in that dream just box, but that was a good few seconds. Improv exactly so close what strangers? I also for, like a number of them An air veterinarians, the vast areas I would work they would like tv shows and was growing up like bats and done a lot of them might turn out to have. Like sinister Paul.

I like yeah yeah, like not no great, you know and if I have a kid some day, when he's eight or nine he starts dissecting animals, I'm probably gonna raisin eyebrow. They that's fair gardening, I gotta get to be a bit like this, but really you sure it would work from these animals. Again, the Armadillo ask Corona Angolans. If it's a penguin landed at dollar endangered, so then he wouldn't superbly breaking the law at the Landau hammered he'd gotten it yeah the internet. Is that everything in the garden it again? This is. Digg is not to take a dump on that's what they do is amazing and heart. Brand names like I just got a bad I don't know what happened. I got do the wrong window into that profession. It was the right

although because it led you in a much better directed led me to I M an undulating gang, maybe I'll get to play a vat in something wouldn't that be nice love improv, like was improv, was improved, training, something you pursued, or was it just sort of the pivot that I wish I didn't fear to creep once a week, which was Awesome because on areas kids from different backgrounds, older for ages- and we all friend together- and you basically had to stand up and potentially fallen to deep hot water and embarrass yourself- and that was one of the most incredible things thinking back on it. What that does you as a person, because, obviously we all these mobile home bags of nerves better? It teaches you too kind of.

No just put something out, Baron stand behind it and it was really yeah. I think it was actually really really farmer formative tonight. Then I knew at the time here through, like I fear, to permitted improvisation, we write your own staff and with some something's were committed, can then I would find a stranger, you didn't improvisation, that was extremely dramatic. You know very serious, so just seemed odd yeah. I dont understand serious improv. I know This long form, improv, though, is seems very foreign to me, because it whether or not its comedic or dramatic. It's still just the idea of like her to remember this wealth of information that you start building, calling it back and construct the world in real time, and I have friends who are unbelievable at it round, but it just like that part of it feels that part of it feels rough,

To me, like always, how did I say before? Oh you're o Europe, one word like I just you know and is an interesting tool when it comes up in work too, because often you can have a fantastic script and people want to improvise around it and that's fine, but is questionable when people want to improvise, because something sagging or there's some hot, this an air there needs to be held in it's kind of its almost a panic suggestion, rather than something better best the project will enrich the characters. Is it's more like something like food is revised and hopefully something good comes up. You know they were met, yeah yeah, but when people, if people are sitting around there's a lot of stuff of yours of bacon watch, they could why they should watch Bavarian and then also black Christmas,

superfine tail, oh yeah. Well I I was the biggest spanish Sophia to call on she's made soon. Also, maybe he's really cool, and I couldn't wait to work with her. I'd want to work with her for so long and we show that in New Zealand last summer and she had to turn around me three months. Oh, my gosh remain credible, yeah, the idea of even just being somewhere else. I now working with a group of people say I found a picture from literally the day. Before the day before everything went haywire I was working on em. I viewed the acting something for a friend of mine. What am I all? Despite what my friends and I found a picture of me like,

doing taking a salary picture in front of like video village with other actors and the director and the sound people in everyone's just clustered together and unlike cheese is crap like I got almost at the end of its act like we were all just right next to each there are now two years so strong. I had the same thing in New York as friends birthday we owed crammed round the table, and this italian rest like sharing pieces of fried ends. Some fishing is like a boy the way it's totally knots, but one day one day day. It'll happen again. It will happen again like it's, it's weird and shitty an awful, but we if we will get through it and it good. It will happen again and hopefully will appreciate it more. This time I don't even like like music, that's what I'm missing you going to alive concept. Maybe that's first thing to do is yeah

Who are you listening to right now that you would go see? you consider break all you would do it. Who would you consider Breakin quarantine for a time? all this Harding right and we are right to stamp out this. Harding is the future. She is unbelievable and she said, Zealand occurred and I'm really big fan of has sided, probably she's. He's go to Kate Bush thing going on issues as a performer she's, just I think she's fantastic, alright I'll departing I've just written down also wrote down Willie Watson, which I feel like I should know, but you know I'm a hundred wanted, then I just talked to Catherine had a couple days ago and now I know this much is true Yes, you have. She is a magical creature. I love Catherine had so isn't she incredible Jeez

those yeah she's one of those people when I met her a few years ago and then we were United Where did you see each other on the project? registry, she is so wonderful and has such an incredible quality, she's, she's she's, so compassion. It's. Why extraordinary when you meet someone like that, it stays with you a long long time doesn't it because she has this. She has this infectious magnetic energy just feels it just feels like you want to be innocent joy orbit around her and she so unbelievably talented, so I'm excited asked that would stay and she sent connected to you immediately. She's issue connects with people she's that she's yeah she's a genius loved private life. Did you see that with her and pull Jim Marty no now button miss this down to it. So great, it's by this wonderful, filmmaker catamarans, Jane

Can you do to from the savages beforehand, but at some it's about a couple who basically going through IVF potentially, but it is that it should have to do with all the bad ones, tat children and they are Didn't that performances just mind going any big their younger actress in it is great to be I'd. Just it's a brilliant film, So as wrapping this out, is there any like what just to focus on some? You know like em for people who are feeling cooked up her stressed, or whatever do you just have some like joy? aye. Sir, like what are you doing to find joy in the midst of this kind of chaos bubble therein I mean I'd, say I'd say likes. Structures, pretty good I'd, say structure has been pretty helpful for me to have a Monday to Friday and really enjoy the weekends and just put anything confined in your body. Pick your stop yogurt really

the kind of structured weak, and I mean I get a lot of joy from painting and drawing, and I think that if sitting with that court yourself, and also as someone who is quite flaky, and I wanna get better that I think connecting to other people a lot easier, and so it so fulfilling you can pick up the phone you can have a phone conversations can write letters to people. You can connect all over again in a different way and I think it will actually be far more focused and meaningful. I think Instagram is fine, but I think it's also not helpful in any way towards. Medical help at all. But a cooking cooking is wonderful, then how to really cook with an chickpeas and some sweet Tito's I've been doing a lot of cooking. Anything has recently spoke earlier on and think about

what are you? What do you want to represent when you come out of it? Don't you think I am right sentiment? What do you want to represent when you come out of it? That is great and just a just a footnote on then I think Instagram. If you let Instagram direct you it's not great, but you, but I think people need to remember, like you could just follow like positive, stopper mental health stuff, like you, can you can sort of direct the algorithm to feed you, not the kind of exposure so you want, but because someone, many of us like mindlessly scroll through it, weird sometimes were just giving crap cuz. It's like it's just shoving popular stuff in her face, but you could create a positive experience that you just have to be mindful of it. Do you have to cure a yourself entirely in, and I think in times like these to its very complicated to know, what's real? and was not real and special people out there who, by themselves as them as it can be of noise. Just in your own mind, say it's hard to kind of and find some peace, so

yeah I would at whatever helps to Not confuse you realities, I think is, is a good thing. Well, I can't thank you enough for taking the time Thank you for it. You know I mean I hope this was fund industry. For you for an hour own nice. No, thank you so much for have me on your wonderful show it. So I believe- and this is a week- like eleven. I envy you in seven something for me in the evening, so yeah yeah right run, run run are weird, were unaware time shift here, but the weather here you have nice whether there We have shooting whether beard allies that we are the ones the table have turned, doesn't feel good at all. Thank you. Thank you stay safe and stay healthy and let you know

I really. I wish you all the best and I hope you get to see your family very, very, very soon. Thank you. Stay safe and thanks. So much for love me talk. Ok thanks. He was well data and incomplete enjoy.