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we will will reach out you with them that are either fans vinyl or just have some sort of connection to vinyl in some way. There's a lot this lot of amount there. So thank you for pulling all that together. Events at eighty twenty dot com for your thing for the cork board, this episode is Jason. Scott Lee, who you may know from the Bruce Lee story, or jungle, book or low and stitch. He is in MILAN the live actual MILAN, which was gonna come out March. Twenty seventh, but now obviously has been pushed due to quote a virus, but will come out eventually, obviously, and while what an incredible conversation, because instead of doing some just digging about about him, my real that he began to study brutally principles after he play Bruce Lee. This conversation took so many wonderful turns sort of about my body connection in d, no daily lives,

philosophy is sort of communing, with nature learning from nature, taking things in the physical universe and transferring them to the emotional universe, and vice versa, and one note that he sent afterwards, though, is that we discussed Bruce these three principles of combat and he had laid them out, but we actually, for some reason, only got to two and then got sidetracked, which we are wont to do from time. But he just wanted to make sure that I did make a note to add the other went in there so, and this will make sense when you listen to the pod cast, but the three principles of combat a Bruce Lee number one simplicity, number two economy of motion which we actually didn't get too, but I think a kind of emotion speaks for itself and longest weapon to the nearest target, which we did also talk about. So really really really fantastic chat, He had a really interesting life and actually just kind of withdrew from Hollywood to kind of communion with nature, and amazing way in Hawaii. So I

really really really cherish the time that we got to spend together. Talk about this. I've listened to this by just a couple times and have made notes about. I gotta remember this and I got a member to do this and I have to remember to implement that so this mighty one that you listen to multiple times, if you're into that that sort of stuff, but thank you too, Jason stoutly for being a superb guest the eighty twenty progress number ten six here we go role in the thing. I can't even

it's good to have you weren't. Thank you so much for being here early, so many things that I want to talk to you about, because I mean Perceval people there's a lot of things that people will know you from, but the one thing that I discovered I didn't realize with you and I'm so sorry, if you're tired, but it's it's back to the future. That is such that such

chronic line from that what I was like, I knew everything you ve done and then I stumbled across, like people are so obsessed with that one line. Unless you ve got power as my god. That's I'd, never do things together, and that is that is like that, isn't iconic back to the future. I see that as a good day. I really was the good old enough. Now, oh my god, it was yet the nineteen hundreds. I remember it. I remember waiting in line to see back to the future too, and then they didn't universal about good thing where they shot them back to back and they release them two and three within like three months. Drier something. So the is any good, bye, the future story, and was it first did it is tat Wilson's, like the sweet,

sky no arriving at that time. It was one of my first gigs and dumb allows. It was all new and housing why this fantastic in and then we met Michael Father and he was the loveliest person, and we were just like kids yet in he's like just come in after work. Dixon, my readers and stuff like that, the US we may these guys call that rent ass day I'll just little little touches like Dad Thomas losing was a fantastic and I use great yeah Condon, while I'm so to note You are part of this future gang now our past, because that way, forty fifty right, that's what twenty six in their place in twenty six and women, There's. A lot of the prototype cars we saw on set will look like the car is now right raises and all that kind of stuff still overboard. You know now still lags blow right. There are real through like Asia you'll see this. Why level,

side by in reality, is that it But when you watch your star tracks and you realize, oh, we just manifested the communicator. It's like you watch videos of people who are trying to make the hover bored so bad and there versions of them, they're like water versions and rocket versions, but still that sort of we still have not cracked the hover board, only thing. I'm fanaticism lens and make us was toying with green screen and they know. Although other sea stuff yeah, I was like the earth. The beginnings and so much so that was your first like film job. Well, yeah yeah when one of them yet my first film job was with teach marine of cheating charm, Oh yeah, I was there, I want any more they Barney. So I was my very first gig wow, that's cool!

if I was happening, boys will filming and see if that was great good and there was the amazing everything else like she's nineteen, eighteen, nineteen european alone I did not. I was born in early morning, my both my parents were usually from Hawaii Arroyo new groundwater child. In my father, one must be raised in Hawaii nicely. He was really so. We all went back when I was really we all know who or what are we going nice, nice yeah? I mean it. If we just, we just went to wipe I've been you I never have never been so. I've never been to Lanai or Molokai, but I've been to the wee wee helicopter over Molokai, which was incredible by it, but it's just its I get it. I mean I get wiper bull where you run into people, then they go. I came here for vacation like twenty years ago and I just never left that yes captivate it.

Have debating in Dubai, especially here the city where our landscape is basically just buildings. You know like being able to see just being able to breathe. Anyway even place them. Cities are small towns out of expanded. You still get alot of natural areas right there. So you get that feeling over the ocean and the mountains- and it has at what they call electro magnetic pole. Yeah you people relax woman. How did you know that you wanted to be a performer? Why didn't you know he's gonna fell into an accident. In the end, I think, when I play sports in school go, and you know you had that crowd that audience crowding about why this is pretty cool out within it and then, when you can do it, acting we used are doing insight go. This is frightening right by then that's cool about right. The way you do it because you're afraid of it right you, because as a rush right yeah and that's that's kind of force,

into that that patent behaviour and so do you. Do you find that you sort of rush to things that break you out because you feel like, I gotta like, if I'm afraid there was something makes me nervous. I should probably explore that, because that examines a vessel makes you feel like yeah right up just like surfing riotously user gradually into the big away. You really scared. I just gotta charge united I'm gonna take off communism, otherwise any it ain't, no fun after what I really miss that boat. I think I'm just too old to start that now because I feel it when you know when you are young, you can get your you know you can get your thrown into the sand on your face and you like out brush it off and now. I just feel like that. You know that I d be like two weeks of brick all my shoulder my calves, her like it's, I think I'm gonna go to gives gentle is more ways in these easy going. You just sit like I'm doing or less than a palpable Redmond. That's that's a big,

No, we are even like we're with the added tat he asked of liquor. The answer you don't look like an old person a poor old guys, like Pelion, guys old girl. They do good good good, I'm so interested to talk to you about your practice of martial arts because I know that after the briskly story, you did you, did you demonstrate correctly? You actually begin pursuing Bruce's study of martial arts after the film correctly, I meant I met. See fool who was one of those students in the early days when boozes, in LOS Angeles, his name is Jerry Poverty. And I met a bunch of guys that were surrounded him themselves with Bruce. In those days and Linda Lee, Cadwell Bruce's, widower ass. She set me up with these older generation

so and then I discovered it Jerry was the windows were forthcoming in him. He wanted can share the the information and share his, is his experience with Bruce. So he got it took me on it. Wing and then he I trained with him for the film and then those just so transformative time, and then we went after the film. I can state with it because it had my life so dramatically sigh. I I continue to every time I came back to LOS Angeles out, look up Jerry and we spend like three weeks on his and every morning wake up and do some drills or something or or if it wasn't writer you know you're sore and fatigued and says you just having a cup of tea. You know when discussing the philosophies of a kudo and and the many philosophies that boost study in order to get what he he went. You know

If I'm understanding correctly, he very famously was one of the first people that came along and said you don't have to paying herself into one box. You can take bits in peace, is from disciplines and philosophies and use use the best parts that work for you and my you're standing that Korea yeah. They are one thing it I think it's lost in translation is that the thing is that there were principles and our principles of combat and within those principles of combat, if those other so called styles of systems fit into for those principles of combat. Then they were worthy of of being utilised and kept. Ok once became fancy wants, it became outer step or wants it came mom itself. Indulges in and flower all in all these kind of things, then it was is useless right. So anything that was,

gaining direct, you know, and I think, there's discovering that an enemy with with the you have seen the scene, the progression of the fighters and and how efficient. They are really utilizing the region hitting at at at at at right at the end of their punches undone below. He will also Bruce was early hiding proprietors of like the Jujitsu in the arm bars and the locks and things, and that that was he was doing that boy funded sixties. Well yeah, but he wouldn't tell anybody. That's the thing is that the chinese authorities is it is another Let you know when my arsenal is so. Why would hear stories from my C4 Jerry petite about going into his library and he would be wouldn't allow anybody do library and one time he did. The sword course students in and they were looking through it in.

And I think one student keep asking about about tat. She in and resting, and now these chinese resting, analysing and is known. Is nothing too? I don't don't, don't don't bother with it and when they went to his library had like volumes and some tighty volumes of like chinese wrestling, which use grappling chinese grappling and all that kind of and judges, and they were like and he had it all marked and nearly all the it is all marked and like bookmarks in all these special places and highlighted and stuff, and they will just like while he he had done lotta research well, credible, and it also shows you that you know excellent. Is not an accident that the people there? to excel like put in the time in the study in the world, and they really live with it rather than just you know, especially because it I in college, like most people, will happen

Bruce Lee like that Classic enter the dragon poster on their wall, and so they probably think it's. It's to hear you say like any time it becomes who flowery or to flourish, but I do think that the people who really understand it or setting it. That's what they focus on. You know, like all those flourishes and in the film is when is that those tournaments unease kick in the shade? twenty people that encircle him but look at his some of his vice that he choreographed himself. You see his is essences in that it's like They use a lot of strategy. Babying and stuff, and and and and things like he led lead you into a kick and any redirect it call it directs the wrecking the wreck and then you see it in the fighting now right in our people thought written in hooking right at the end, and you think and think that that streets coming in, but then to be directed sovereignty,

so, you're kind of, like leaning into it, yeah yeah yeah, was also once you get a response. You and you it's like a chess game. Yeah, it's ok will what kind of fraud and how are you can respond right. So it's like now. I know all you ve got a block, I'm an easily like you know, redirect my my shot in and go around the block right being so yeah There was so much strategy involved in a sort of and you had to know you're you're your centre line. You had to know you know if energy was taken to left, then you you'd counter to the right of energy. We think the right you can't laughing and it had all these these cool stuff. That just gonna turn me on, and I was there. I stuck with it for a good fifteen fifty years with the enemy. In twenty years with with Jerry until his passing and then it was the only correct jump out of the nest ray of their say, yeah,

feel ready, even after a while, just because a party you you know and that that their quality that responsiveness and that the sensitivity and boost these jerry's desperately not what's gonna happen. We need at all. You know how you gonna compete with with hunger person he goes and bruises answer was, will hopefully by Van my sensitivity. My awareness will be so high that there would be no need to have a whole lot of straw lousy heap. I assume that he'd that we would just gained the wisdom and the experience yeah and then you you foresee things like. I think we do that Egon reflect that in life, because if you see someone's energy is like aggressive, you know you can easily Kyle go around it or talk. Talk, talk in a soft home right, a kind of light and those are the things that meant a lot to me. Like that's disarming a situation before it even had right,

That's being saved! That's being you know a marsh artists right, yeah, my train. I've had the same. I don't wanna martial arts, but just like physical. And you have had the same trainer for almost fifteen years and his background was also in martial arts and he was always won. Two sailors, You know fighting is always a last resort. You don't want to do he you know like especially because number one you don't want to hurt. What you don't really want to hurt someone and too he was like a bar fight like a movie fighting like someone, you know like have a bottle or nice that we are going to tackle. Like anything you don't you know you could get hurt hidden because you just never like at all costs egos. Someone comes EU aggressively, fuckin run like you know, you know, like you, don't area only ever want to do it if its, if there is, if it every ass, horseback quarter, unavoidable, yeah, but I you know

I was young. I didn't really understand the mind body connection, because I I think I would have looked at martial arts as of a physical discipline. And now that I'm older and I have you know- have the sort of this journey last fifteen years. I realise how inseparable the mind, body and sort of the philosophical and spiritual connection our as well, and so these are kind of animal things that I want to talk to you, because you just can't you know you're an early days would always say, like the thing you learn in here you can take out into the world and I I never could have understood that until I started periods in it you know in in the way that we approach fitness is like you know, we did you you boxing training early on, and I would always lean on my toes amigo. You need to sit back on our heels and I realize, like I'm always like, eager and ready to get ass. I would actually in life, got me to sort of like ok, any situation to sit that take a breath. You know, like don't be a p right, and so I would love it.

A little bit about that. My body connection, especially with you, know the kitchen door, whatever whatever the? U of journey and some of the sort of philosophical ideas that are. You know inextricable from the physicality of it. So what is what are some of the principles that really spoke to you early on that you just could never have foreseen when you when you started the first one is simplicity when you in combat it meant your longest weapon to the nearest target. Ok, so whatever nearest target was towards you that that's what you would direct your attention for leave his front leg was the closest thing too, That would be the object. Ok, if, if a weapon was out and extended, see in short, blade or or daggers, and that would be a target, ok designed. So that was first thing

and the simplicity, and then Numb along is what the nearest target, and I think that was a big one was- was Was a simplicity thing because then I took it in not in a combative fashion and I think the philosophy can I got to me where I started looking at other avenues of developing myself, because I think in the muslim world. If you really it your all. You think about is fighting and that kind of got to me like. Oh, my god, you know I'm always deciding like in my

and how it respond, Bob Obama so actually started. Oh and then Jerry is always a natures, your greatest teacher and then we start reading into some of the two hours is that Bruce tapped into they said they were always say: people closer to the DOW or the movement of the universe which the basis of your power in an annual being in everything. Were farmers and I went down I've never done that, but I never and then, when I started reading about all these great length summarize, the saucy and stuff and some other guys they were farmers. While anyone there's something there I've ever understood it, but let's give it a try. So I set out I bought a piece of land on a bigger Helen and I created is for

and I went into organic, so grew wild vegetables. You know- and I I was doing it for about twenty years- oh wow, which was why probably didn't do much filming, as I dont have like my brings me is not stack the you know like that, because I think I took so much time off the go. Explore that avenue my life and I wanted, hands on. I don't want to go you guys. You now want to hire. You guys have to do this work for me. I said you know, took peace around manager started Banion away and build my cabin, and I started requiring all these are the skills and- and I always want to do it with hand too So when I started working with hand, tools and earth and stuff and really feeling it was like why these are all Brussels that uses a Marshall eyes pulling this. Tat, the breathing and the movement breathing and movement of your relaxed

A breeding movie in excess Those muscles I was, I love, I feel Phidias fiddle- we are also aware. I would imagine your also beginning to understand how to move the earth, like your b getting to understand the basic processes sort of like create and move life can. I, when I went in study with this order, these gentlemen. He was sort of the century of natural farming, and, if I did a pilgrimage to japan- and I worked on his farm- is muscle noble forgot, I wrote a book called the one store evolution and his philosophy so like this holistic, martial arts, kinda thing that I thought wow this is gonna, be making saw. I what does one for about three months during the summer

I came back and I I started column redesigning my my way of growing things, and what are the things it appealed to me was that with martial arts, a lot of it was to take part in and destroy in these kind of things. You know with the least among effort right and then so I went while this is more about creativity is about creating giving life is to have taken away right. I said that's the key, giving life instead of taking away and is it That gives you the union, the Yang of the martial arts. While so, how do you apply that in say? You put as well You see the role of corn, look any life of course, and as it gets oh you're, watching life appear and you're going damn. I can take this kind of its my kid and she's happy and it creates life, so that was there was an amazing jury just

see, and then you start seeing patterns in nature, go okay. What a grass I caught just jumped up two inches overnight as it. What does that mean in this growth? Sport is a growth spurt somewhere. That's happening, there's energy that boosting and flourishing. What's happening to me. Oh that's, really interesting. What's the reflection, major right. I'm exact same thing is: is grass so he you start seen all the insects and all the good things and all you know all the bacteria is making your your plants growing. Shit, I gotta, I got a small hand these job. I got us more hand in this in this picture, so how does under saying that life energy like how does that influence and help the practice of martial arts? What is it

if your infusing, this idea that you know that that we're giving life, how does that inform your practice, sensitivity and awareness? Okay, you get a higher sensitivity for things, natural things around you and you get out of greater awareness, of of what the situation really is a reality. Yeah, that's that's the thing would even talking about all this time with the Oscars and stuff like that then you know of sustainability and pray. All these things, that's what is right, and so that's a holistic approach to training as a Marshall Eyes or or training, a child or a kid they? What what's the concept you gonna give them with the philosophy of uniform them to grow into medium, excellent, human beings, okay and- and I think that's the kind of like we talk about media accordion Bruce

isn't that he was striving for that that goal, so I took it in a whole other car and try to figure out how I would do it not just copying what boosted but take what is knowledge in and philosophy wisdom in the marshal way and applying it in just a life way, which I assume he probably would have wanted right, like don't just copy, may take what saying correct figure out, how are you to make your own? That's the dynamic that eyes blue. But when I talk about much lives there is the principles, you know

and then those things at here too the tonight so, like all of you know, we talked about longest. What nears target simplicity when strategy basically year EU strategy, is your mind to to do work out on closing the distance and all that so here's so here's, my god, he's like raising questions which is you're thinking longest weapon nearest hard it. What do you do? If you know you see whatever in opposing forces, it could be a person could be a situation could be you know just the world some days. The world is just a tough place to navigate, but when you come up against obstacles in your life. What? If the nearest town it is actually your own head, like you. In other words, Oh I'm coming

laughing a little bit of attention, but I'll swing back around. So I ve been studying piano for last year and I can play fine then I turn and I go. I should for this I want to see. I wanna see how by progress going, I turned the Cameron I can't play for shit because my rain is going, there's a camera on the fact that there is a Cameron or you know someone might come up against situation go you know, head you're going, I can handle this. I sought out a piece of shit or I'm no good at this or I'm gonna fail or whatever, and so what do you do it? You know the enemy in the day in the external world is actually in reality: the second enemy, because the first ones in your head. It's all how're, you navigating that and how do you, if that is actually the realities, that's like your closest enemy. So how are you you know what has the floor be behind sort of pushing that the way in just sort of being and not getting in your own way.

I would say anything about the would sue. Relaxation is the key like like consistent meditation Relaxation kind of thing I see that we apply it that way, but I think the breath in and an end when I am, I did a stage musical in London, the king and the king, and I and I freaked out on the cabinets- My life is right. It's like I'm. Like a nowhere land is like the audiences sneaking in like you're there and you like. Ok, will you do I just I soaking training take a breath to breath relax into it. The dome about it bore came back a worker, so I know I know the feeling

measure here. In that light you know you're a recital. Do your piano be like you know like writing? That would be. That would be the case and it sounds to me like that the main reason to stir these principles. Yes, it's you know, it's called a be able to kick your like real. It's like the physicality is very cool and its call to have that sort of all over your body. But what really attracts me too? It is that sort of that there's a word for it that my trainer had used, but it's basically like that sort of like quiet. Evidence you know that sort of stillness and that kind of that, because your understanding, nature in a deeper way that in general you're sort of calmer, not You know it's impossible for everyone to be calm, a hundred percent of the time, especially in a world where I feel like we're overstepped. They didn't we're, always on our phones and there's so much. I had distraction of so much stimuli and

We just hear you say that guy went to farm for a couple of decades ago. Fuck I totally get, I know, is it is it? Is it really just sort of? Does that? Does that deal? practice. I imagine that just sort of helps keep you from getting to that panicky place too often, because in your practicing and still there has ever discipline pusher and so what what? What involved with that. Is it is there? It is the does. Anyone have a different ritual their sort of a general like you know you up when the sun comes up a new sort of just now. The world and be quiet and be still like. What are some of the steps? that's what I thought it was an incredible, creative endeavour which is kept me busy. I mean I, you know I have to things for, for the greenhouse. I'd have to build different things with wooden,

in our view, are always fixing stuff yuri with the tools alot fixing tractors in all of it, if you have some in autumn scenery around, pounding a metal. I mean there's somebody disciplines that involve are involved with gardening or whooping cough farming would have the same right and if you do it like without a hold on machinery, which is what I you find yourself acquiring a lot of different sets of skills, so That diversity, my belief in myself, and I think one of the reasons. Why did it? Because when I was in the throes of like Hollywood and doing leading roles is I notice that I will doing a lot of things for myself, because everybody was doing things for me and I thought I was Lou the a sense of myself and it was that the whole movement back to nature was about learning about myself again one more my abilities,

What are the things I can learn again or or real, learn or learn brand new right so that those are the things that I thought were captivated filling and saw it kept me. You know saw days in hours like some saw days, you saw it back or something or in oil, pointy? Just like more no one's gonna. Do it, you gonna, do it now wherein it. As you know, it's got get done so get off your ass and go do it, and so I think it prevents a lotta laziness as well, and no hesitation right, whereas, like you know, Sometimes we procrastinate is they all get to it. So easy to do that, and it is so easy to let other people Oh you know like this person takes care that their presentation, because we want, like our brains, just want us to feel comfortable,

the time arise when, in fact, I think one of the more important parts of life is understanding and accepting in pushing through discomfort, because that's worth a growth at exactly exactly at. For example, when I first got this piece of land, I built a small cabin. And I want to start from nothing so no electricity, no running water and outhouse and kerosene, lamps for light and a little to burn, ercasts guest of ok, and that was it and ten years? and there was chop in word carrying water chopping would carrying water. There was also right right He would come to my little shack and yes go what the Sky afford himself your luxury, how it was a big star like what's he do arise here, and that was that was that that phases like man, this is called it right. I come back I got a landline, let me have cellphones back their ratings

Your lan line as it is, they mom would call once in a while yours night and you just now hum of the refrigerator. No nothing, and it was wicked he asked- I miss actually miss those days. I I often joke with my wife's it went. Active dating back when you came back like when you go to the mainland or when you come to the mainland or if you go to you know their city? Did you know have noisy. It was absolutely, and it was funny cause you go into the city and you like the cacophony in everything going on inside. You hear every little and then slowly supplies were you don't hear it because it comes white noise and then we go back to the little quiet cabinets like your ears ring. Will you first gather the first three four as usual, is a ring until all that excessive noise causes these with. You is like a vibrational vigour and then it slowly goes away and the experience acquired

Well, you know the other thing that really great about that is that it also seems to teach you that because, every day? There's they do or something goes wrong. Your constantly having to fit thing fix things it also AIDS you to realize that you know that's that life is messy. Like things break, you have to begin We like to renovate houses- and you know I always tell me we're going into it. Just expect that, like half of everything you do it We can go wrong, something that to show up son he's gonna get. Stall wrong. You can open a wallet african pipes, gonna break it it's just sort of like you know. Solutions create more problems, and that tends to just sort of be like add just this is then. If you can, you know, like you said, as a farmer you, you go to deal with it an accepted while what an incredible skill set to have, because then can really master. It you'd be relatively unshakeable because you're, just like the slight correct, like every fall

falls apart or you you get someone assassinate your character, something you're good doesn't matter it doesnt matter of the stocks, go up or go down. You know it's like I'm good right. It's like world good. My family's good will do all we can do. It will just step away start doing your work are getting busy and you know it all. Is all cool that's great because it the sort of it that the analogy that I'm seeing that I imagine people were listening, hopefully will see, is like take situation like ok, rating and you go out and you try to start the tractor in the tractors, not working. Shit you gotta and are, even though you were tracker in the rain, but let us not just trying to pilots in certain places. You got shit like that excess biofuels fixing as your options, standard scream at the tractor battle at the rain, your feet in the bud. You know not doing it. Was to do and then things start to wither, or are you just kind of

shut up. You ve made up your favorite thing, but you fix it and then it gets going in that its fine, and so you know, I think so much of what we try to do We live so much of our lives in the external world because the our internal lives can very messy and loud and uncomfortable when we have to deal with emotions and how we see ourselves in how we think other peoples is, and so like rats. Sort of shouting at the external world, trying to extra control the external world. It feels like the lesson here is, like you just deal with what you can spawn how you can and that's it and you just sort of get through it, and then, in general you, you know you'll probably be probably remember, remember the old man, the old Japanese sends a natural farmer from Japan is a technology. That can save us right is we're gonna save ourselves. If you have the right perspective on things, he technology to is only gonna, make things more complicated right as it and you look at it.

Has been times. Are you like at a pay point rings not worth ran it like this house to make our lives easier? It really like it just just it just creates the possibility for more problems than it actually take. Long would have been able to in faster from just a hand you twenty dollar and how many of us are sitting in front of the computer or at home and waiting for the thing waiting waiting waiting How can this damn thing so slow? You watch three seconds of a movie or video new guy got it you anyway, even why not just we're just so impatient. I feel like we're, fostering our patients and our reliance on other things, and I do think I think sometimes that's. Why older people seem so crazy, that's like all they won't even use there. They won't even answer a text on respondents like cause they're, just living in the world, but not the sort of

prisoner of all of these things that you know. I think I think essentially, are us kind of running from discomforts and kind of like just trying to feed our own egos, you know I imagine you can't really have much when he go. If you have a bunch of farm shit to do keep an eye because you're a kind of service of that farm, anything we is money. Does my wife and I we didn't experiment one year and at that time it was just the two of us and we like. Ok, let's, like I, just go fishing fishing once a week. You know Philip rulers and stuff, and then you know who will grow more thorough and sweet potato, and you know that of your starch and vegetables are pretty easy. They did they gonna go, will do their own thing, but let us try it out and see what we got and gave all inclusive with costs of of car insurance. An end? I feel and stuff like that night. Dollars, plus for the year I'll- do it I in Ireland, you know what do

They need to go back and I said I'd egg cell attitude of an ices is like tuna, the view, but gale and then we'll go then we'll that's. What's the goal is that it's that you know story that I'm sure I'm butchering, but it's like you know them the rich guy who sees the we know the old man on the beach fishing, go you know we need to do. Is you need to the higher more people more than you can build an industry and then you can grow up. Why would you do that so that you can get so that you can have all this free time and is linked to have that now you know and so like. What is it really there were chasing and is it better to sort of you know, I mean I think this all the time that you don't get this business. Definitely We are chasing a lot of Vigo, stop it's fun to perform their is Adele

de Vigo in a lot of it, we like attention. We like people validating us, you know, let's be generally what social media is and that's what I think a lot of the visited, entertainment businesses, but you know I think, back to I listened to a lot of forties music in my car, serious x out and so there's a lot of old time music in there, and I hear the same artist come up another big ones. I know, like I know, of any good men. I know Jean crew by no Sinatra, no less brown, but then there's couple more. It's like this guy VON Monroe keeps popping up. We can never fuckin heard of this guy, but he had so many songs. Applying the station go. He must have been really famous at the time I have no fuckin guy is so if your chasing fame does it really matter because in a generation or to no one's gonna, know like rigour that Elvis so like, and what is it that we are really doing at what point do we say like and my chasing something Try to make myself happy or can I just

be happy. Can I just be present and be heard, in the world than that it sounds like a sort of what you discovered I'm so curious like, and that. Certainly you know that that line of attack were eagle. I'm on my freedom right. So what is it? What are you? What is it what're you gonna do to make you feel that way, right so, and so why so like what was your because I obviously MILAN is coming out and so like what was your decision after all, this time sort of you know communing with the with with the life, of that sort of made. You go, I think I'm going to go back and do this weird, acting thing again, why I've been since my first border was like I've been trying to like get jobs while even with arisen me that I have, as it has been difficult You know, I'm in this diversity thing came up. You know: Unharnessing Army I'll give you a better shot, but

then, when we learn came up and then they actually passed on me like a wild cup auditions older now, you're, not a guy, and I went LAO K that the talking uncle with that. Ok, you know, and then eventually we know they came around and came back around again like a machine. A year later after the first of these, while you never know ever know, and then it was like a man, I saw one a jewel because it's Chinese, my kid MIKE chinese as it did, love and I have two daughters and in the sun, but the daughters would be like that's MILAN, that you know I was in MILAN is so man when I got the job as all my goodness is. I cried out like this is gonna, be wicked, because it's for the kid right and also it. I love the idea that you didn't get the job the person

times. I'm sure that's done, but if, but it wouldn't have mattered. If you head freaked out not freaked out, We thought about it again thought about it every day. Whatever was gonna have what's gonna happen, and so why not just let it go and it did come back around like always come back around about when they do it's like whether or not freaked out and what mattered lay out. Every man I'm gonna have a rather than older than that that was the case in all was like well, he came back with what what's up now say. Do you know her, this happened, then I writer all the little stories in between from near through the grapevine like right who they went with anybody who the screen that wasn't happening and I think we could have been because I had a track rig with Disney, really felt like hey. You know let agenda book yeah jungle can learn state outside seeing in here

and uh. You know those. I guess that trace of my work there and so on Bravo always like us, are you a stir? It sounds like you're. Not like a stress are like it's? U dont stress as a habit do now now almost never that's good yeah effectively he loved to learn that I really am concern the Zenith cars and I always get you know we're in trouble recently, this Nancy yeah. I definitely show months: more serious person. Rather, I am very concerned about things but yeah, don't it's stress necessary right right? Well, it's good! I mean listen,

two never think about anything is unrealistic. It's like you still have to think you still have to plan, especially if you have kids like that that you your base, we parents or the ultimate farmers exactly you gotta grow those gay exactly you know each other things around them in that area and predictable and it can break you haven't affects them. You have emotionally physically, you have to always be tending. I we. I do my wife and I will get it that like they were all the time we work with farming them. Yes, I see them the rate. Gradients and they can grow straightened out, and you think do you ever envision a time like all right, we're all gonna go learned farm and you're gonna learn how to do this, because it's an important you know it's important will the time we had him. I only had one. First shouted and we stick it in all the time and used to go with us is now use game, go at night with a little flashlights and go into the Green House and pick off all the slugs off over the plans right and so united.

You don't get, could really use pesticides or anything like that right and that was like fun. It was a fine game. You know right, have put unlike little gloves or something or she'd spotted unequal, let in the open, and then you know stuff like and then I have a good collect, different to models and stuff like that. And as it all, we need this type. We need that type Benito, an angle the care and not another, that's gonna! Why are you not see the young age? She understood? You know what the process was, but then I would do all heavy work. Of course sure yeah course. That's really greater. Yet within a certain age you can just work for you in the back. Do you like? No, you got an arbiter splinters of back the California that China rebuild, Sir, that that the essence of of that kind of lifestyle will then it's nice, though, because it I feel like do you feel, like you appreciate it more this time around with

with the work of assure gap for sure, because I had all those years. You know in the business and- and like, while you know you really let that invest? The key word you appreciate right. You know the fact you your damn lucky right beat working in his business did so many people who would love to take your place sure and down. And especially adding when you get a high profile jobs like like MILAN who in and you like or this is this- is a scene of his great yeah and are you finding that the them It is opening up in a more positive way for Asian in Asian American. Over sure you know, with crazy radiations, cried blue things open. I hear you know. We ran down and stuff like that in other. Looking for projects that are aged based,

so you know and the easy you feel my parasite in writing. I take it. You're like going as a career are stepping up their way. They have been for a while, but they need to get back and recognition right about that. That's a big state! Great! That's all! That's great you here! I'm glad I'm glad to hear that an I'm glad that you feel, like you, have a healthier perspective on cause. I feel like it so, easy to get caught up in all of the other part, one I get their part. Why didn't this wine? This person call me back her. Oh you're, going to have enough to remove all like all learning socially minded whenever restarted, but you know, is Lady brand new, like you have to have delight answer all these people. What are your fans? Will there are the people? What are you going

you, the endorsements, because well of you like? Will I'm gonna blow that up to? Like my colleague, I mean what is feeling somewhat. Milan is by his high profile gets me ass, a huge, huge thing: it s Disney, is making more live action, some based on their innovations like it's it's a good hour. I would just it it's it's it's a very fruitful time and I feel, like you know where where things can often get rebooted and not done properly. This idea of you know? Take animation, especially from times when they just didn't have the Tito with Europe jungle, but this did not the technology to make animals like they could talk. You know or like a or with MILAN, like even animated MILAN, it's like the technology it's just so much better now, so I really do like the idea of like you. Don't let's go back and make

really cool. I imagine versions of what these animals well. I've been hearing. I haven't seen the film yet MILAN, but I've been here. It is wonderful. Things is here to complete classic, like a stand alone movie, even if you had never seen the animated version. You is this. You don't got a glorious to watch and then, as it has heartfelt moments, way through so am I met you gotta see it. Can we talk just for table seconds about just some, because I imagine with a lot of these practices with the lot of you know specially with I'm, assuming with you couldn't others, there's probably an element of, like a gratitude and appreciation figurine to the practice. Does it figure into the practice? Are you Do you is there is there are part of the flower, it says you know, focus on. You know what your assets are, what the the development of the situation are rather than always trying to put out

Fire of you know being and liked what I was there was one abuses philosophies that he brought to the table was be the opponents compliment oh wow and that's like when you start again to sticking energy and stuff like that, so busy shadowing them, and if you can have enough sensitivity to to feel them, you can. You can feel they're moving, feel what they're gonna make. What do you know when you gonna throw so like gum? That's when Bruce developed or a non telegraphic approach to whom hacking, because he is like a cat or give you what you get in the way

they think they grab something. You don't see the motion right because everything's relaxed right and then that motion comes out of just an impulsive motion which doesn't telegraph and so that the basis of a lot of striking that Bruce Develop was was non telegraphic striking and that you know how to do it. Just feeling them all moment and in it that's all counter intuitive. You think like You know that you think you're gonna, like ten everything up and really, and that actually seems like it's very detrimental like like. I was always, you know, eyes? We always want to carry our strength. You know our rear. Your hand because it's like you, don't you throwing a big right. Have you a big right hand and setting up. You know, like boxes that you said not left tat. When I started training, they merely switch me

my right hand. The front out they made me. Sulphur, oh wow, and I was at war, is Weir's awkward rate, and so it is that is Bruce's philosophy. Is avian gunfight guy she's gonna? Do what do you do nothing block ray? You should write back firepower, you heaviest firepower, is gonna be in front and you develop that fund handling, jackhammer, so late. The first three months was all developing front. Hen develop their front hand, develop their front hankers. That's your you. Gotta cover the distance. From that front hand right and you can develop a wicked j. Which has so much power because you're putting oil hip into it right now so using I wish I could see how fast on you just moved. That fund had really wish. I mean I could hear it. I'm sure you

I hope the like picked it up, but even just watching you like, like pop your hip, was it like that was that was unbelievable. Yes, it's the relaxation, relax tents, so relax tents, grants ignored and that tension that is like that exploit you can hit empty annually. Right and something I jump boom that that you know I'm. I was watching Donnie Junior or not, I think, interview which organism he's really into the wind Chun. Oh, I didn't know that, and so he practice incessantly I now and as watching him and he always talked about the beauty, cantonese fora I just figured and and and and you know those are, the things like- ok say understood. Encounter. I think speed is gonna win and just because, if you

in immobilize, in our present vision and run, you know me: do it right inside because you don't know who behind him right of he's got three four guys and in my seat was it you never go on the ground not voluntarily anyway right. You know, because you could end up a victim short because back to the world, grant when you're on the ground so there's a lot, a sort of real life stuff that that you know, We learned in the chicken Darwin and all that, and but what no, that was the one big on was compliment. You're your opponent Well, that's amazing and embrace him. It's almost like that data, Kido philosophy to it's like you know, each other love your opponent but like you know the make sure you know that, and you deal only with the conflict that comes to your space. So that's another thing about to relax until the competition comes with in your room,

don't get all while like come on. Man get beef. Man like you know, get all stopped and I'll fire up and just renown stay there if that motion comes within your range gottesman, you respond, but and that strategy, because they don't see it, come yes, but that also like a brilliant light strategy too, because we can get so tweaked up about things that might happen, Castro, five, we get ready like I've gotta, be prepared in case, something like that, may never happen, and this idea of being relaxed until something comes into your space is like that's life like what an incredible life message to not just live in a constant state. Anxiety in panic, because it's like you know you, you prepare the best you can prepare, and then you just Let it go until it comes into your space. That's too such as that is really is melting. My brain out of my ear, I mean it felt like a very obvious thing, but just but I feel like, and that is that is you know, martial arts, it

It is also a physical representation of the idea of practice that we also have to practise philosophy and practice. Our mental health every day? The way that we would practice that, because it isn't just turning it odd when there is a fire, it's like you have to just you know, like that's the confidence of just like you know, doing a little bit every day to make sure that you're, you know, your nimble, but also, but just not living in that state of tension and all the time. So you still practice every day. National art, thou combative stuff. No, not really. I everyone's around tuna young see how other mechanisms are working and yet, but the I cannot now really it's I don't know just soul, a part of me and I think you do

maybe a little bit timing by not training nearly all the time. I think this enjoyment to it and do not change. This led an hour ago sure any interest to see healthy, stay, healthy state fit yo and in and have that all that stuff ingrained in you- and I think you know you use- I always tend to fall back on it. Might you know my elbows in my straight line, my chin down as they affect, they can carry it with you. I guess what I'm sure that many situations that you private even realize you are so well equipped for because you ve had, training and so like I I do. I have recommended people before it's like yeah. You know like studies, some kind of a fitness regime, not because you wanna get jacked or because you learn how to put you know it's like yeah! That's fine! If you want to do that, but really it's it's about. You know the practice of giving you,

self cause you're investing in yourself when you do it and that sort of creates the confidence that you think you're worth it, which also helps give you the confidence of, oh, I'm starting to feel my body and I sort of can feel how I moved the world, and all that shit is really it we does like the stuff you learn in their like really does have one other whenever he Mandy things about that. I heard in the Then you know with the martial arts was bruces. One it was. The same was to be is to be related, and I was like all right. Ok, the meeting about that for a minute is too big to be related. Okay. So if I have an opponent, I'm gonna try and find relationship with him, and that would meet me be ok. I space right so just to acknowledge, like ok, even I think

these fighters can do the same thing. Rain begin knowledge there that the opponents strong points is weak points. I'm finer relationship, ok, that opponent and I think, even if you are on the street right observation and your awareness of things, your sensitivity will allow you to have a relationship with that person, and so how do you get this idea of sensitivity and an awareness really just sounds like you know, I think another common terminal is like being in the zone where everything sort of slots to me that is like being in pure presents like purely present, rather than having your brain thing of the past of the future. What's gonna happen, ten seconds from now, For now, it's just sort of being in that sate up your presence or even gonna, see and feel everything, but just taking what you just said, your relationship, your opponent, like what How do you see that applying to just like a life situation, I good to meet you Honecker issued? Yes forsaken it. I feel you

energy, oh yeah. I shook your hand just now you were yeah, that's all you know leads was it, you know we're squeeze it rain under squeeze it you ve kind. I felt met me half. Medium yeah, that's an awareness thing. Ok, this volume just in meeting people or your like say you know, there's desert disruption in in a coffee shop or something right, hey man site which April oh right, shakes her right. Like the UK, but can I help you? Ok, rather than this idea like fighting as a last resort, I think is a really good cause. I can see that our first response, a lot of time, can be to fight you, no special on social media. Someone says: I'm gonna like we go right Adam. You know we're like something happens. It we'd, like fuck, fuck everything you know it, but rather than fighting the situation rather than fighting life figuring out, I think what you're saying your relationship to it. So you can either

flexible move where there s arm, and I mean the beans day, yeah I like in a fight state right, I'm just being right I mean to fight. I don't want to fight. I know I could do damn? Why would I want to write unless you know That is all of a sudden. You know he. He pulls out a big right here right now in their identity of historic right yeah. I do like that idea of, like you, don't have to be on highlight all the time if you practice calmness, present stillness your connection to the world, your connection to the universe that you can and so that you know the external world doesn't necessarily control and form who you are like. You have to figure that out and your relationship to those are just sort of the. Misunderstandings in, I think, allow people to.

Still and relax and like I can handle things when they come into my space. I'll, be ok, just like you said like if I needed to. I could do some damage that the confidence of knowing you could handle something if it did happen, and I think that putting in those little, you know like those little deposits ever every day for your practice mentally or physically. Those are the kind of things and allow you to feel that that confidence? And so I really can't thank you enough for being here. This was such a wandering jackal. Please I'll, take a really appreciate that the end I ii and iii incomplete.