Global loans. Biogas number do sixty four Superfund chat today with the Joseph important limits who was so incredibly warm and sweet, and and the great stuff to say, and it was an absolute pleasure to chat with him. It was its also call to see someone such often the business, young and then grow up to be a nice responsible. Individual toys, obligatory, normal guy and an end. Then, on top of that to be able to evolve his career you're really serious, acting double you think about the bullies, this guy does. He really is in some of the best stuff that the film industry has to offer you don't really get Taiwan episode as well as after the show it was like hey thanks and then was a nice hug warm like sincere hug, all the ladies and or dudes who enjoy the Joseph Gordon Levitt, he will he's your going to melt a little bit, he's sweet and charming and handsome

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We had it in. I know it from my my latin classes when I was. I want to know what they're all boys like lousy, stay latin. Had. I study, lad near. Why not study a dead language? I was like. I, like you know, maybe it'll help me learn other languages and well I didn't really learn many other languages, so it's was. But I know it's it's good to night man, never too late, feel like it's too late now I think you Roma. What has never too late? Oh my god, you're right! you, already changed my life on the show. Just how do you do? Is a joke, Joseph whatever you like, Jose, Giuseppe, Giuseppe? Yes, when I was very appropriate reverie I saw a super there. Yes men, I the most, I think, one of the most fun things besides just decipher element to the movie is, is watching you

well as mannerisms throughout the movie and just like little thing, It seems to happen in the background where you can do the side mouth like that. What matters is that, where there is in that way, you remember from dialogue that or double indemnity a claim that, in our view, is it is a unique challenge in that way, and that's that's always my favorite thing acting is is becoming somebody else why, if I see a movie a man and anything I do Let me give me too much. I feel like I'm a mess that part up I want I've always wanted to feel like somebody else there and most of my favorite performances are that you know their there they're from these actors who are chameleons, so you know they really disappear and you don't see them on the screen. You see the character that they're playing in the story and The premise of labour having to you know this time, travel story where I'm playing

Your version of the of you know a Bruce Willis really pose the unique challenge? In that way I had to transform myself more than than I ever had to before. Please tell me that you shadowed him. Then he would just like open his closet to get a tie. You like enemy lawyers as good morning said always sound. Did he do that we focus our? He did wanta, or can we safeguard the Zodiac Cemetery, this this changes things here, He did one time he's a very understated guy, not not the kind of guy that old buddy you up, urges throw our compliments very often by, but he did at one point. You know just kind of off handedly say sound like me and ass. I gotta go in the other room whose big victory, nothing against Bruce Wireless, but younger ass. Well, ass. Never had as much hair and his head as you

there's even kind of like I was it you didn't just like us. Second, in the film where you just kind of look at your hair line, and it's a second yet and it just like a completely sets up that justifies the entire thing as funny. I think that's probably the one moment in the whole script that I did. I improvised I set wasn't written by Ryan you know some movies, you improvise quite a lot like leg with the movie that I did within a fifty fifty. You know that's their whole styles, Seth Evans, Evan and I'm in gold their whole thing, there comedy writers, and so they you know they right there. Great, but then there always like trying to think in like others. Do another taken. Just try some miles see what happens and you know that's a great style in it, but it's different. You know then Ryan styles, He writes these very carefully and extremely well worded scripts and their very economical on and very particular, and very you know stylish and how everything's worded, and so you don't improvise.

Really, but that that women moment in the mirror you just brought up. That was one thing that I have I came up and it totally The leg is that it's one second of the movie and it just totally like, then you go. Ok, I get it. I till I get a lot improved with Nolan inception. Try something new, not not much broader unknowns. Do you view like that? Or do you sort of feel I mean I think some people, like some actors, I think, feel I think it's more of a challenge to have to do someone else's words rather than like lichens is. Can, however, I feel like doing it yeah I mean it's not to say that you don't bring your own software. You still do you just is, I guess improve in a different way. Get you not improvising the words but you're still improvising in a you know or try to me it organic with what you actually do, how you feel How you say a line I mean all those little subtleties really will make the difference and so well, I think that's that's also it's something that I

ever been able to figure out. I am not a great actor so, but, but just it almost you know like say taking. Someone else's words. It just feels like. Oh, I have to put this suit and I dont know how to make the suit fit, because I, as a person, would never senator. How do you find? How do you find me? and your quality of that character. That justifies and an organic way. You know what the words are, first of all the writing ass to be good I mean I don't know what what experiences you're talking. But maybe the writing wasn't so engineer, number two in Terminator three, you probably recognising when you sit down. Probably probably I was, the writing was what was actually all right. Well, it all made. Let me just say a sport. I did see terminated three, so I'm gonna do remember spoiler. Do the robot say over the world are a wager may three or four the terminator three terminal, not german or salvation right, terminated, three terminate rig Arnold and the last one with Arnold yeah. I did see that, but T2 is really the one.

The world's opted for the area. Really I've seen anyone. It's it's still holds that, like even the effects from a ninety two or whatever? Has it still like those? You know that what what do you do siphoned when you are grown. I always I was always a sigh five m. My dad's like a tricky in Fisher, but am I remember, seeing t too young and I remember that really being the first time that I was exposed to the idea of nuclear holocaust and scaring the should end at hours to get. That is an example. That is something that you should be scared out. You know, and that's that to me is a great example of a movie. That's completely apartment If you compare the entertaining and yet is kind of doing something, positive is like putting out there. This warning the like, hey, there's, there's no

we're bombs out there and its probably something we should do something about human rights. You know well also have all these nuclear plants- but also the other messages, don't empower the robots right and then her that's actually a really good point of your eye and there are of there's a bunch of those fine movies that are a sort of anti technology. In that way. I well it isn't. It sort of big it's the commentary on humanity of me when you we really when you really break it down its hey Americans. Let's not be, jobs and lean on convenience too much, because when you relinquish control that the robots for convenience sake, that's when the robots crushed her skull, There is a good robot, though Arnold Good, rather our nose, a good robot T2, not all the robots are bad. Now now the red, the robot or what you make them right when they re they were able to make one adorable that big-

goes into that that molten pits the thumbs up comes not a dry, though this, don't you think when, when the human Schwarzenegger left office that that should have been a bit right in front of the outer edge of news, embarrassing from California, is as bad as they go down. You're. Not did you think the robots are gonna take of the world and eventually yeah I mean you know it's just the lines are becoming blurred mean people are living, these Zito, these digital the early, we the whole idea of the matrix in a roundabout way, starting to happen. Yonder sense that people lead, you know completely safe, lives online and how soon before some sort of a software but gives those digital avatars, some type of consciousness, and then they start making decisions. Everything's automated gets going

happen we are going to turn into the to cyber drawn at some point. First is the question of how how we let it happen? we make it happen now. Let it out how we make it up, and I like to be optimistic. I think too, that could be a really cool thing that that sort of them, with all the dire circumstances running around these days. If anything's gonna keep us from going extinct, it's gonna be miraculous technology. The sure of that sort of you know helps us figure it out. Well, it is that double edged sword, It gets your best friend, but but be what it's like. You know Prometheus in the fire it s like. We warned if we keep? You you just to make money than will probably killers. That's all around us and I was ass. Some shit, I'm the first one to go man, you might be a robots, you're, a robot, maybe heads young looking good performer,

not a real person. People like you, don't really come out of other people. They are created in laboratories, Uganda, that's half of robots, go you gotta we're gonna, fuckin, kill you gotta, you good one for you, but I, but I always you know the the did the people that I mean who were who were actors, kids who grow up and end up being okay? I we feel like? Yes, you know, I really have you in your hair is like he's, got nice guys like well. What are you? What are you a tribute? What are you tribute you're you're crossing over too well. First of all, thank some guy. You think I'm a nice guy so far, I don't know my parents are really cool. I think that has probably the most to do that. And they never taught me to be gone. For the famous fortune

never made it about money or status or anything like that is always just something acting with something out, I have to do and they encouraged me to do things that I love to do and I never pay means doing, it saw denied that guess. That's kind of what happened. Did you when you, when you start focusing on some of the other accoutrements? They can a company enacting acting career. That's when you get in trouble, but Kuchma cells robot. Were you basically? What did you say your car drain as that country? Oh, my god! Now here's the part it here's the M night. We were, I find out, I'm the robot and everyone else, human, but it I always wonder where the shift happens, because when kid and you're acting you're, not really thinking about the craft of acting you're, just kind of pretending. I assume, but at a certain point you really do. Can I stay assumes

out of it and then really approach it more as the crafty does. It feel like that way to yours, just sort of like a natural muscle, that's exercised! That's a good question well Add one I'll never had one acting teacher. I never studied other than them with this one guy, and there was one I was quite young I was like. So an eight nine ten when I was taking classes with him, Saint Kavin Mcdermott, and he really taught us like you didn't you dislike it. He taught us like actor and he didn't use. I guess the words like. I never knew who Stanislav Ski was Romania that stuff, but he taught us, you know to approach it like a craft. I guess you know about what would it others that mob guy you're, tougher, there's Kyle Clark? I said I said our show Pierre Cot Clark looks like up hence and walk around mob. It is too soon

like his hair flaps and he's got the Big Beard Logan. I hang out with you, have what his face up to the window. That's the attracting! That's that's exactly Nazi kind would be a great robot play because no one would suspect it as you so kindly yeah, and then you go to hold them in any working and then crushers vine and it is all over. Yeah. Well, that's anyway, to get back to my original point I was I was talking about. You think my acting in your thing. We have yes, this teacher. He used to teach us stuff like becoming a character and, like you know, considering your character, somebody different from yourself and what would that person do in that circumstance and where's that person coming from and teaching stuff like back story- and you know things like tat, so I always really

did sort of approach it like an ardent craft. Even when I was young and I hated doing commercials and stuff cause. I would even when I was seven like that's not acting now. Will you really have to pretend to like a thing for a pile of money? Just make us look stupid. I gave up on commercial addition, so are yoke is I just gave you know that there are people who just book, like some people, just book commercial after coming laughter commercial and I do you know I'm going to be like I love Fredo's parking get out just a second in Cairo Clark beg you verb thing. Matching your face up against the window Kyle as a region as it has a going good, couldn't not shut my face against the plate. Glass window, oh good, of course you know as I can still do my face get tiles. Kyle's on probation for a lot of, let's not committed to take. Why do we repeat

had access make for better. If you know we're not recording on tape, because this is an eighty four articles, their politely in and then be nice, this gentleman, his disguise. Indeed, we were just, like the other. Guy was on our borders and J P. I guess it. How does he was fun? There was really find just landed. A thing on Mars right didn't help their bowling skills, but they do kind of look like the eighteen that's exactly what you want to have the group, because you get tomorrow, I they young. How old are you guys doing live ranging an age? I think Bobby them out? Mohawk guy back is probably he's gonna, be like thirty, maybe thirty one. It is. Like Lana Videogame, the weather, troll it or what yeah yeah? Well, it's a video game with a lot of extra math. But but ultimately I mean you know they are that went and a lot of sufferers is is auto programmed and then you know other things they can control at all day, are separate guys to operate the controls, as opposed to the guys that, like design

ginea, the things of their silence that they're just good at skilled, like they're like eight year old kid, to a really good on Xbox right, yellow pages put him down there. It's amazing how well kids in a great and interface with technology. Now, just even four years old, you see like tiny little kids just weapon through Ipad, like they're, already way ahead anyway ahead, but I want it Now that was going by figures I got for, do you find it hard for you because if you like, actors have to be naturally sensitive because you have to be empathic unaware, as you can't have to get other peoples has been so high. Do you have you read the residue of like a day or month or six months of playing a character that, for instance, might be a bummer like how D not absorbed that into your own personal life and cannot shake it off. That's a really good question, and the answer is its. You don't always managed to

completely, whence it off. There was one year or I played three care, in a row, all of whom were really in one of them- was a sociopath killer. One of them had had had suffered a mild traumatic, injury, and one of them was a soldier going through PTSD play them right back to back by the end of the year. Man I was. I was messrs really fucked up my emotions were all cracked out. Ike feel anything very well honestly in and any was after that year that I started thinking shit like, after after figure out another way to approach this, so don't ruin myself there, and there was. I once heard a story this. This one driver on us at once told me story about how he drove Walter Martha, and wish. I could remember what movie he was talking about and I don't remember what movie was timer, but apparently he told us

where Walter Math I had to do, really really intense, seen an for they started rolling. He was, he was telling sky joke. And using the middle dying is driver, the joke, and they said I Walter. We need you it's time I went, and indeed the scene like really intense yelling screaming angry dying leg like that seen as so intensity so mad that he has a heart attack and dies in the scene, and then he got up and came back to the driver and finish telling Joe and I remember when the driver told me that story as I fuck me, and I I couldn't do that at all, like that's just not how I'd be Do it in any way, if I were doing a really intense, seen like that, I'd be I'd, be fact all day and that's how I do it I wake up, knowing that I have to do that scene. An unjust, allow, myself, no, no pleasure and and and

My mind go to any nice places, and just you know it's a head game. You focus your head into that place and any at the end of the day, it has taken a stolen if you do a whole part like that, for Months, twelve hour days, doing that its it does where on you and I I don't I don't have an answer yet, but but I do kind of look out for myself more than I used to like when I play when I when I was in fifty fifty I I would. I would consciously cause I spent all day telling myself I had come sir? So I would dare I would I would actually I remember, I proactively went home and like reminded myself that I didn't blow my girl, because maybe a little superstitious sheriff like that shut up like you can, will yourself into cancer and a weird way. You know this. I don't, I think, is powerful stuff

yeah, there's there's a lot to it and I don't think we all understand I don't think we understand it all, and I don't think you know there's necessarily like pair. Empirical evidence first stuff like this, but I believe in certain kinds of magic and things- and and I dont believe like I know how to use it or like I have seen many issued a magic missile out of their finger or anything like that measurement method but I am, she played in hi? Yes, I do believe this level wizard flop, Bulgaria, lawful, get yeah. I tried awful good for a while, as I like, I wanna, be away. I don't want to be chaotic or you want to be like neutral level. Are silent, bringing gritty realism even take the I was just about to say: magic is science. We haven't figured out yet yeah, that's a good waited for, but I much prefer your deity. Was it so very well, it's just the nerve brain is today is just

automatically trained in the second, you hear a certain juxtaposition of words when you her magic missile you're, like that's, very specific he must, would you magic misled an owl bear. Maybe I will offer class with what do you think I'm gonna get us? Were you just open up mad? So here I was about to go down the acting rabbit home for a second but d or do still play nights been used. It's hard right. It's really hard I'll, be down to play its bid. It sort of like acting dandy. But when you have a really good diameter and a really good party, it is the problem from we in the group that I played with is that we have started to get so busy and a good deal, game is like a band of one person can shop and no one can play really, and so you can, unless you know they try to roll side missions or whatever, but it just sort of you just don't want,

be that guy who's, like I'm sorry, I'm the reason we can all do. The thing we want to do today is to different than basketball. One guy doesn't show up beaches their lives to somebody You know what I mean. What do you do you just rolling its one sided dialect, Miss Mary Miss Eyre, I love Addy and it's the perfect. It's the perfect. Marriage of of fair affair, see and math statistics. You have imagination, do kids play it anymore. I am, I think, it's on those things that it continues to exist like it on those timeless things like buying a guitar despite whatever's happening kids playing guitar and garage and their kids playing Dundee in the bag in the classroom somewhere. That's me at fourteen those doing plank Tarn airplane daily, oh wow. I love

here that story it you gotta play I get there is, but I mean it is a commitment you know like you, you can do like a day mission in play for like a few hours, but you really need you know you need like a year of just I really develop your character and whatnot meltdown comics. My work at the theatre of there. They have the spot, its category The US is an ongoing dean De Group when they ve been together for years and it's funny cause you'll see them and there are times where they are all emotionally going through stuff. That none of us know has their annual just see people walking out torn apart there does. I will get the Disan two days, but let us think you, if you have a character that you ve been playing for like a year and it dies is he's a view have died, differ, sir, while they must have a really great deal out there that that whole

our guard just amazing to watch like they are dedicated and a level of never seen. You cannot do that. Their hard coin did the people that are listening to this understand at all. What we're talking about this, the nervous podcast? Not not only do they understand what you're talking about. I think I just heard the collective goose of a thousand nerd squealing in delight that you just said DM and you didn't mean direct method, but on play that activity, sort of stone or you're gonna. Send me a dungeon. You mean a direct message, but I think it's you know anyone either deities of ever gave her imagination to protect progressive, certainly for actors. You know what a fund, it's all theatre, the minds you create a car. It's it's really like that. That's what you no good! Acting! That's what it is. You create a character. You come up with where from what their parents or like what you know what what their strengths and weaknesses are. Yeah, you know, and Et Cetera, and

and then you acted on them that that really is Dundee, although it's funny some something I don't think really know a deity. Is they ve seen the boar games in the computer games and stuff in the UN and its like a board game or a computer game? And it's hard to explain to somebody has never seen it done that it really isn't there. There isn't anything to buy Maybe some dice gets clustered with like war hammer magic, magically gathering is relative of fringes and that more abstract them but with magic, you know you have you have cars, but with the indeed like you, can you just need graph paper by and then just like, just like up a velvet bag, ransom anthem, in some dies. You know opinions in the middle there, no convenient, still leave onions but you're going to have to be developed bag to be in a velvet bag.

Started. Using that is an insult of Yosemite go hey! What's up dice bag using data traffic has an encircled, but it's either. Sometimes you might have the painter figurines or what not ever played with the figure. They don't. We I mean it. It just sort of gives you you know. If you have a map, gonna give you some. Visual of above representation of whatever there's a lot of fun like you know, roleplaying like dragon ages, really fun. It's it's not just deity, and when I, when I grew up there, there was a little deity boom when it first got popular. There was also like boot. Hill was the western wine. There was a future. Why, like? There are just like role play games when we just basically had when our video game we're squares, shooting lines where's like we had like our Fiji right. Ok, imagination was at a premium, is the top of imagination We don't have to imagine anything anymore now, I'm Looking at you- and I almost can imagine you out Rach on second reading-

See you're avatar couldn't hear this warbling halo guy up here, I land hardy land party biogas. I think you know in the hold the whole performer mentality. I do find it's that relationships are challenging you know I can do because unless someone is another actor and even then you run the risk of what they are having their emotional thing that they are going through with their role like it. I feel like performers, there were a hard group to date, interesting, maybe right, as per about as much as is the case in question, because we're talking about being in the intensity inserted getting into it were their actors or artisan stuff, because there is such that proud. Lineage of the super intense artists like where there

eyes that worry. Who were your guys that you should look at when will they went through the the pain and intense? Yes, I like, I lost all Dustin Hoffman movies. When I was younger- and I mean I just this just this last year, I got to work with area old men who I think one of the great camelias as well as well in christian bail, too and when that little indy film of darkness rises- and I mean like Christian in the fighter- is just psych unrecognised voice So then, what about in the machinist workers like Y yeah, that's area word he's he's doing essentially the size of like Alison Brie. S then I also get to work with Daniel Day. Louis last, while it ever Lincoln, I have a pardon in Lincoln and its uncanny. It's really uncanny watching him do what he does. I love it. I love watching people transform like that. And I guess it is a certain sacrifice. I mean he really. I don't

we got to know Daniel Little Bit the night that we finish shooting. I was lucky enough to be there on the last night and prior to that, I had never interact with Daniel or heard his voice. I only interacted with President called him, sir, and I'd gotten text messages from Daniel, and a couple. Nice really really nice letters, but per they had never, Madame until that last night was the first time I ever saw him and genes entities drinking Guinness like having a good time. Speaking in a british Jackson. Yes, really is really something, but it did. You play the joke scenario. Can you handle a five dollar bill and go here dropped her idea? No I'd know no income. Praying I didn't do that. It had to him what was curious to hear what I've heard his Lincoln Voice yet is really something good cause. It's it's not. We had expected to because Lincoln's voice was high. Historically, yes- documented that Lincoln had a really high voice, but every time you ever see you know whatever

cartoon or whatever, with Abraham Lincoln. It's always for school. The opposite, late payment by feeling TAT S, probably you I like it. I like it and say the ability of their they met at Gettysburg, address party audits in my but I think there are a lot of things about Lincoln that that Mort necessarily the image that we of him like the beard was something he had for a short period in his life and then his voice would like said was high and he was actually apparently and a ganglia answer like all. These are Zeke that was the other, but I'm excited the sea to see great movie man and in its actually it's not a whole biography aims. You don't seem without the beer, this movie Lincoln, that that Spielberg

to this common on November. It it's just the story of this one, brief interval of time, where he's trying to pass the thirteenth amendment to the constitution to end slavery in the context of the civil war, and you really do see him being a human being with all the flaws in hypocrisy and compromises that he asked to make their come. You know people coming out from size telling him he's a terrible persuaded the thin and that he's doing the wrong thing and him sort of staying the Carson and figuring out. How to navigate all this shit and and get the right thing done. Everyone you, he'll back the layers of the myth of Lincoln. You really, you know, I think it's import people to see the humanity of Lincoln more than just the icon, Lincoln, because I think people can relate. I mean like you want to strive for the icon, buzz you or science, ailing icy sign, sometimes resist butter or you know, but I think we need that he was you know and anchor

guy depressed guy was in a shitty relationship. You know- and had to sort of stand alone in this you know tee rivals is a really great book, but that's what they based they. They took a part of team of rivals and based the script off of that, but the doors currents Goodwin Tony Cushion wrote the screenplay. Oh really. Yes, I realise that yeah, it's really to be honest, you know, you hear the Stevens billboard is making the Abraham Lincoln Movie in, and you may be figure that it's gonna be more just beautiful patriotic. You know like what you're saying the icon of Abraham Lincoln here, but I gotta handed to Stephen. He really, I think, took up smart approach to this movie and and made something really specific and an intriguing and an riveting its tuna hours on, but it

feels like a quick movie, it goes so it's just so good. I love it. I'm really proud of me. When does the ones like movie come out? It's in November, I forget that, November. Ninth, had you worked on something that heavily period That's a word period. Anyone like kids, like just affecting process of trying to create that same intensity. Having that extra element of how would I my thought process be different baseline. Your grammatical, syntax completely adjust destroyed the mighty. What was otherwise a really great questions where daily both agree and my education idea a long time ago- and I was a little kid I was in- I was in a while before dark shadows- was a timber movie, There was a soap opera in the seventh yeah and there was a prime time remake in the night.

An unknown, really knew about, and I I was in that when I was a little kid and so we we had. We did some period parts of those very polite of you to say the word back to him to make a big. It is ok, but it was not an ok we're up, but thousands a vampire tv show this was this is probably the non vampire linger, yeah. Well right so yeah, I guess the first time a really done a serious drama that was period, especially in my adult life, I would almost say I would almost argue that the dark night is kind of a period peace. In a way I mean it's, not it's! You know it's! It's very status, dial eyes version of you know of timeless a year So it is that it is in a way I mean there's an eye. I think most people would be jealous if you just got be rapid, but you need to be robbed and you get to be overcome in Lincoln

your honor linkage assassination occasion the cerebral book. No, no! Oh! She did this travelogue where she went across country. Looking at all these, the for all presidential assassination locate land hurdles address on its but its red cerebral before another, this american life, and she's in love this American? That she's, a cookie historian, he's really great but like the section on Lincoln and then cause Lincoln Son went to work with me. Certainly, I ran came into their Mckinley administration, as per Kinley got shot, and so right, yes right areas where and it's really interesting. She uses Lincoln son as the through line through a lot of these assassinations in his rid of emotional brow, but an early who key public rate. Oh kind away. All assassinated invalidation vacation was there. Is the book period at all, or is it the contemporary

check and made this point average super sort of the period movie to numerous gotta do is get a period movies. It is essentially the current Taiwan is what like twenty forty, four but really fun movie. I do love. I do love the kind of Bruce Willis idea. Like kids, you know like every four years. The picture is kind of a cool cypher. I think an and goes with it. He loved this script. Madam he didn't have to do this movie law is not the kind of moving the campaign. Big Box said he just loved it. It was so apparent his enthusiasm from the very beginning and he showed up to work every day is killed. It he's really really good in the movie to bear. It was it that opens settlements, this

We're gonna class you're, really stupid question than about earlier sure. You are saying and fifty fifty that every day you had to go home and say I don't have cancer on Lou projector governments. I am not going to become Bruce well enough, Greece, so that I'm gonna become unreasonable, approves well. Is this one of those guys it makes you feel like it's ok, to get older you're, absolutely right when you go still kick my ass. These fifty seven and you know, like a provocation. Fifty seven year old urban, but rules at all. He's. He definitely seemed age like it seems this stay. You know why. I think part of it is because, because he's been, we thought we could kind of known as well. Bruce Willis for so long and so much and how we perceive age has to do with it sound like he had hair until he was fifty five and it felt like I look, he looks all of me. Could you just he's always gotta had a shaved head? Are you always kind of new and he's just he's real maintained his general face shape, so I think

That's, how he's transcended time is a reserve Ruth relation of Europe but what was the surrogates since these areas This is a far more vigour and other really formerly. What what else do you want it? You do you want to go. Do more comedy suffers that just are you in a period where you're getting more you're more drawn too to take dramatic roles, gnawed others do come. In fact I just the movie. I just finished meeting is one I wrote and directed what's. Yemen is Malaysia, and I so much thanks. It's it's called down Johns addiction and it's a comedy. It's it's a very dark comedy, but it's a comedy fisher. Did you do it? Did you have a direct yourself? Yeah yeah wrote a piano. I play John, whose sort Contemporary Don Juan Guy And- and I also wrote apart first Scarlett Johansson in and she liked in and did the movie and she's great net

and, and Julia and more is also in it and she's fantastic and tony damsel place. Dad all thank you for doing that, because it's not of Joseph GO of Europe's leaders of Joseph Gordon Laboratory, Scarlet John, had told dead and actually like an updated back up, that's authority there either it is really good in the movie actually he's such a sweet guy Tony's I'd this gonna sound creepy. I to the times that I did Kimmel Tony dance. It was coincidentally on both time as funny, so I've shaking his head twice, and I reconfirm the second time soft. Hands in Hollywood, interesting, I'm trying to think back. I rough. I noticed that exactly, but I wouldn't put a passive

he's well. Groomed, that's for is very well groomed he's a dapper gentleman. Did you know how do you know before, or Yemen ease and angels in the field our twenty year, literally twenty world nineteen year reunion cause. I was twelve when we shot into the field, and I was thirty one directing them. As my dad. Oh my god, Donjon sedition, yeah it was, it was moving. How was the experience for you like? Is it you know if? Because at a certain point, once work with guys like no one, and you know you do these big films and you and you come out okay and everyone says great job and you feel like you did a good job. You have a certain amount of confidence when you walk onto us, that is a performer. So what was? Were you will the translate that cock as a director needs to know what he's talking about. Were you able to absorb that confidence for that yeah? I think so I have so. I think my word and but it's interesting, you say:

is the other thing, a really good director dozen, and no one does this Ryan who made loop, or does this and and Stephen does a two? No matter how confident you and how thorough a preconceived vision you have for it. You have to be flexible and you have to be opened the spontaneity and collaboration and and those guys are. So that's that's really to me. The crux of of a director is that decision of ok am I gonna stick with what I thought it should be. What am I gonna cut bait and go with the new idea, and that decision you have to make a hundred of those decisions. All day long and how you make those decisions, I think he's kind of right at the heart of what a good director is. Is there a science, because you know you you're able to pick

good movies, with good directors that turn out well and it's very hard to make it very hard to make a good movie for a lot of different reasons. So is: is there a science behind that or do you just have sort of a good thing where you go? I just feel like this is gonna, be a thing or do you do actually have a formula? No there's deftly not a science to it. I don't think I mean they're certain things you can look for, but there's counter examples all all along the way. So now I think it is something Connemara in place. All the you know. That's, I guess the difference between art and science in a certain way or magic that, like he, can't quite explain it. But if you, it works? Is there a character that you to sort of stuck in the back of your head relax some day? I want this guy may, whether at someone who exist or like just a type of a character, is there any sort of so any sort of like acting muscle that you feel like you just need to tense why I want to do a musical one day.

Found there. I want yet, but one day, I'd love to do that. Fellow singing and dancing. Do you get your yogi bigger, degenerate? Really, that's gonna! Listen! I think wonder. Sometimes, when people get you know, sometimes people get really successful, really famous. They just get super withdrawn. I can't I have to then people are gonna like it's like how do you? How do you? I guess I been doing it for so long is this just like it doesn't really matter so when you're, when as good as I am a karaoke. These were oh shit. Carry on the table. What's your song? What's your so you'll have to weigh up the Wincey dammit radio internet, you know crisis is he? Does This round at the scary, I didn't know that ok, always false modesty to bring

assisted in here. They therefore use there was a tall habits that that we stumbled upon, of carry, which I happen to be good at just rose down whole. I love really lead to those that is excellent. We know what the kite say that pod casting has ruined, carry Oki for me, because I do so many. I do so much talking in a week between podcasting and stand up that I just lose, like I'm, if I'm doing stand up, I'm talking for an hour, our fifty minutes unstayed with progress on talking for an hour, and you just can't do that, and then go like screech. I didn't realize how much like thing tears apart, your throat Hadn't sung in so long recent was at something I sang with somebody and just was tore up a nice day Vodka knows them. Pankey brought out elements so fun beer annexing, I forgot. All I need to do in life is talk. It was probably black flag

We bring along those near the road is a muscle, so it's essentially the same as if you you know, you picked up a weight off the ground and then just started. Doing rules as fast as you call it a hundred times. Even like I can't move my that's what you're doing your throat. I think we have to find you. Opium iraqi, like the nerd audience, will find you de indeed music? Oh, my god, it's called chaotic good labyrinth finally, my every four remake earth equal labyrinth, egotistical going. We got a jerk jurists, son, Oh my god. What we work with the guy are you to jail were part of the handsome company, so we have. We have access to all about this happen lamb and we could. We could make a musical labyrinth video with you, as

you and your best. Both practice was one of those glass put the last Bosnia Michael motion. That was that the famous juggler Michael motion did the did the ball of routine good good good. Long as you don't mind, we're making some very interesting plans for your career, your agents, Prague and have a lot of questions, but was just don't go with it. I do musicals in high school. I was in music goes much younger than that community theatre. When I was like as early as I think, five six seven eight as again little kids me no productions of wizard of OZ and guys and dolls and Peter PAN where's that it was just a flippant, gets out lead knowledge that is the coveted Gabriel winner in community either. I plead Oliver dieters is a better, for he is a better part. Oliver's one note:

I played Oliver and junior high. What a fuckin snore dodger got finger list. Gloves you got the dirty, we got, the big artful dodger was chaotic good. Is it good? He cares? He I'll call you a neutral. You think so I think he starts is neutral, but then he arcs too good throughout their course, and I remember the whole story of Oliver as well as you do well. He I want it, but all Oliver twist never change throughout the entire fuckin story. He does it. Is this toe headed like yeah scared that everything just happens around and old has to adjust itself for him like he doesn't really do anything, the artful for doctors and much better character Jack, while in the film supercool kid. That's, that's but why did I just admit that I played Oliver your

I was I I had. I had a total fail when I played Oliver to the opening night of the show, because I'm sure ruins interested. There was a soda machine and I got and for my mom and I didn't, but then I didn't have time to go get the soda. So I had changed my pocket and there's one scene where Bill Sykes, Yanks up Oliver out of this box, and all this changeful item pockets during during the performance, which was bad for the character, because he's supposed to be a penniless orphan and then all this in Seville that old man on earth. So, but I I think, there is something there is something for you in a dandy world that I would like that. I'd like to see happen. If you just want to play d d, some time we shouldn't, we should have it was just get together for a day. I know he'll comedian. Do they should do like a d and e podcast thou? Be I'm sure there are several? I we I listen to people play the Andy. It's well. You,

you have there wasn't a good people playing the India that have to be really get, or else it be borings cause you when you you get spoiled by a good dm who really understands had a present things in a very few a trickle away in a very cinematic way, was a good story to you need a good story. Teller for idea. Not just someone is good with rules right and if you have that, and then you go someone who's, really drive in Dundee sucks, so at all hinges on the dm I'm the group. I do what I do want to mention one thing, and I hope it failed totally cut this out. If you don't want me to talk about this dimension mention this, but I have some friends who were r b. In the burning man, community, oh yeah, and when were pure fancier brother and I sat and said Dan was a groat. They loved him and said that he did amazing thing: for the community, and they it's it's it? It's a nice group realize really right. None and certainly don't cut this out at all man. I am delighted to talk about him in that way. It's true I went to burning. I didn't get to go to burn Amandas this year, but I went last year

and people are just coming up to me constantly and being like your brother changed. My life just want to tell you all the time as really it's it's really true. Is there special guy? I think outsiders, kind of look at burning man and they go- was just go to the desert with a bunch of me like, but when you, when you realize what it is, it's it's. It's like this kind of tight knit group of people who really support each other and it's it's really kind of a beautiful day to get our bushy brows current. It's kind of a beautiful thing is like its penal people come together and hidden advice, that be humans should not be growing the desert. There is no life and they are even bugs, can't even survived. They bring life to what they support each other. In and with with creativity. And with you know, and in which money everyone just like low on each other in bringing ard and making Arden and supporting each other and incur

urging everybody to become the best version of themselves that they can be and it it absolutely changed his life. I mean I remember when he first when he came back just so different and I went the next year as you wish oh excited about it, and it really is it's got out No. I haven't like I want two years ago, just briefly, but everyone said it was different this year and I don't I don't know if that's true or not, but it's kind of the most beautiful party I've ever seen. It's just Because it's all art there's no like there's no profit, I mean, I guess, someone's turning a profit somewhere, but hardly I dont for there's, no, answer me like there's? No there's! No, it's not like burning man brought. You here

Snapple arrived at a good old, its nose to everyone's just six bid, it's all about finding the most awesome party yourself and bringing it out and that's that's where he became burning Dan and you know he was he was. He was shy when he was younger, always like super, smart and and and really funny, but sort of introverted and burning them was really the turning point. I mean amongst plenty of other things, of course, but where he I just watched him evolves as a person so much and and become this rule. The extroverted and an lovable do like anybody. You, Madam just the positivity, would just radiate out of him and dumb and I'd. Due credit burning manner in a lot of which no one has ever?

called this owner is only heads Donovan's. So amazed by the hang over me. I got one cause I'm so I'm so sorry. I appreciate you bring him up like that. No, I think it's. I think I think it's I I think I send you clearly. You clearly have a little after your brother, and you know I am sorry that I am sorry that you lost him and you know and it but but I do think you know it's, I think, is heartening in a way that where a lot of people may not you have community, that kind of keep them alive, and I you know. I know that his you knows Pro We legendary an Enigma community in that he'll always will always be a part of assuming he's burning down. Have you ever thought, maybe some some type of I commend our year some kind of anything about yeah. I think about it all the time I have all of his hard dress, and now he he we started this thing or he helped me

start this thing or we started as the other, whoever, whatever you say, called hit record yeah right thanks man, very cool. Thank you were a lot of the prophet goes back to the artist. That's right, yeah and was it's become misconduct, but a production company now, where, if everybody can log on and and contribute to these projects that we do in the moon, we make money, we split the profits and and send checks out of the contributing artists, but before it was that that's only like two years old that it became this, national production company thing, but for a number of years before that, it was just this kind of thing that my brother and I would say to each other and it represented just kind of being creative. The record button became this kind, a symbol for fur, doing that and he took it really seriously view it record like all the time he is like just I have this huge container of full of hard drives of photos. Tons of photos, and he also recorded a lot of audio of like conversations that he had

and for sure it's I do consider it sort of a project will be working on for the rest of my life. Gunnar framing that stuff in and turning it into Arden, and you know it's it's difficult to be honest at this point to shared on it, and I know that it'll get it'll get more doable overtime, sure, but but Thirdly, like and he's always he's always in he's in a lot of it record stuff you know like if, if for no other reason than just his spirit, is that like we actually

sent this last burning men, while the burning member I went, which wasn't this most recent one, but the one before we sent the first. I brought the first copy of of our first anthology recollection up there in and put in the temple for it to burn up you know, and and this last year we put the first pressing of this. We just made this final record of music. It's the best musically government is called move on the sun and we knew no, I couldn't go, but I sent my friend Jeff Jeff PATH with the with the first copy of the vital to go for it, a temple and burn up. You know a burning man for him and he's he's very much still. You know in it in there and everyone like everyone on the site. If you, if you're sort of in the community knows you he is aware, like us,

spare you so encouraging and so positive, and that still, I think part of what happens if a record people feel welcome and people feel on afraid to try things in and you know, put there are out there and that's fairy Dan. Like he's always the one who was like brain that canapes, deputy to it, and the only way you know we keep that guy, and so what is it you know when, and maybe you haven't even figure this out yet? But you know, if there's one thing that you want people to take away from Dan's life and kind of. Women into their own lives. What what do you think? That would be that's a good question. Well, like One would answer that would be to mention his favorite book ever was a green eggs and have put the lesson in that. But that's

a truly brilliant work of art. I don't know when the last time you picked up a copy of green eggs and ham was, but it's so brief and so eloquent and so fun and the messaging. It is like so healthy that you got to try things even if it it's weird! If you try it, you really might like it. You know, and that's it that's him at burning man too, and he tells a story about when he started spending fire. He eventually became, I would argue, the best fire spinner, but I've ever seen, but I guess I'm biased but ask a lot of people he. He really was like a special artist came to spending fire in. He tells a story about how he never used to think that he was the kind of guy that could do that because he was the kind of guy that would maybe just you know, dress modestly- and you know he worked on computers and stuff, then you know, has sort of a quiet voice in and dumb wasn't the kind of guy that could light some months fire in Spain.

Around and make everybody around all look at him, but at burning man he he he decided to do it and he got so good at it. You known, and it became this- he became burning down. He started school flow Temple me know that that still exists and, like that's, the people who tend to come up to me at Bernie Man say your brother changed my life, it's it's usually fire spinners is usually people who he taught flow to very spinning ploy. And dumb, and you know you have to add the hardest step, though, is is sort of just trying it. You know at the very beginning- and I I can't really do give it a try. You know like I'm, not gonna like that, those eggs and hammer green, but I, like you, know at some point you have the kind of Trust SAM. I am

and well, and I think most people and I think what we always try to tell people on this pod casts. Is you gotta? Do you just gotta? You have to but you have to try stuff, no one when they start out really has any in for any more information than you have. The only difference is they just tried the thing right and you're going to fall down. And it's gonna suck for awhile life, but you get better- and you will appreciate the process and then before you know it, then some kids gonna go. How do I start doing that? You have just spoken start yea after chive here for that and that's that's so him man, that's and that is So it record like that's the idea that the hardest part is pushing the button till I actually gets in an recording and then you know, then you can go from there and you can go back and edit it and you don't have to put it out there and you can you can hit record again and try some new and light you don't have to its

the end of the world. You know and nothing really bad is gonna happen. It doesn't have to be perfect when you start is right really, then, sometimes the imperfections, the actual imperfections a lot of times actually are. What give things their personalities are best their best things right. You know like when Kyle put it. It's against the window. I show that was the worst part is worse, but but but oh it's just that you know I I just I I like the kind of have this idea that once you start up even knew you dont have all the answers front. You dont need to have all the answers up front but, as you start, on a path answers They do reveal themselves to you, but you just have to be walking down that path. Do it yeah, there's a difference between knowing the path and walking the path like sitting in directing your own movie, yeah sure. Well, that's for sure, scary and I'll knock. It there's no way to prove that I can do it. I just I thought I could do it in and I I was lucky to have a lot of encouraging people telling me you know to go for it and- and I did I think pretty well isn't the broadcasts might be like

You know. Listen to these performers directive is characterised using these performers talk. I added I work at it copper, mine and that's hard work at acting is like all I want to say to people is just try. It trial I'll, be fluctuating your emotions and holding them in some sort of a weird foreign stasis for aid. Where's ten hours twelve hours a day for months and then just see if the easiest them you know like we are emotional creatures and and fucking with those knobs is a You no kind of it's scary. To do this with directing that to me the thing those freaking out with it is that everybody's, like so we have to make this decision were all waiting and monies are going and you just feel like you're trying to stop the sandbagged spilling sand and to get comfortable at that is one of the. Terrifying feel yeah. That's that's you're. Absolutely right that is, that is being interactive. Now have to be the one.

Decide- and it is also true that some, you can do about both ways and decide later and I think that's actually started. The bane of moviemaking nowadays is because so much happens in postproduction there like world cover, it will cover both ways and we'll see what happens later, and you can tell you watch a movie, that's really made in postproduction. Did you mean it was the rain of all young Robert and come over here and give being a hug prisons. Where did you get to the last page that damn inscription go fuck? It? as Europe, and I was why was it not

I was one of the leg for people that actually had the last page of the script. None else had it Christian, had and I had it in and obviously Chris and Emma had it, and I think, while he knew No one knew we were totally just keeping in a secret from people they were here because they think you're? U yours, you shoot that seem by yourself. So no one else. Really has to know. Until until the end of the movie, I mean everyone in the crew got to see it. You must have impression. Everyone's gotta have a data, certainly not well we're about it and our, but it's really cool target in what a pleasure you know I've been doing interviews now for wage long term, because I happen to have like all these movies coming out at once, and it interviews are usually pretty boring. To be honest, is so refreshing together,

really how five men will. Thank you very much. I appreciated is good. It is good to see you and Kyle. Thank you for bigger madman, Jordan. We normally have two other costs on the show they are on a plane to Toronto because we're performing in Toronto tomorrow night today. They they, unfortunately, could not be here butter. But again thanks for coming, on a great good local loop or a really enjoy the movie and enjoy our green eggs and ham burrito everyone thanks again now leading noticed, com, this sort of notice podcast has brought you buy stamps dot com go to stamp. Stockholm click on the radio Michael one of the top of the homepage and type in nervous for a hundred and ten dollar bonus offer, including a digital scale and fifty five dollars a free postage that stamped out come enter. The promo code noticed.