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All other thing. I can't even a nice little because it's it's it's a pretty spectacular. It's just was building appeared in time where people could wear her good, great grandfather, Pagoda Europe and go. I like this castle, just take it apart and then reassign I'll. Just take these pieces, I mean you can do

now, but but at the time it was the done you can just go I'll. Take that negotiate taken apart, put it on a boat a shit load, a starship rushing up I fucking castle from year to year that we get the fourteenth century castle like yet take all those pieces. I M just going to stick that there and there there. Then he had this amazing architect who would then somehow integrated and make it look like it was supposed to be there. So she would create these new. No, these pieces that were new but looked swearing, keep when there are in keeping with the innkeeper s that helped sort of food, into the into the castle. So now, if someone did that view, we like what a piece of shit. How could you you know, but now we can know they will happen a long time ago. So it's all right now, at its greatest likely I sending on sand game things in you'd like and knock on. You know that

beautiful, unskilled tat stone out there, and it's just you know. It sounds like that. Like that kill it, I know it's a month: it must kill the magic. Like he's a magnificent magnificence, thank our so that you know, like our will on Europe and actually sounds like we on the other side is just like it's just like would slats holding it up in some Eastern Europe, in grip, just smoke angolan cough, I'm just gonna. U can't ever let people need think there were reasons real, it's just a documentary, even you made for awhile said Aramis. You know you do indicating that it was so like these aid. You end up like you know, standing in the wilds in some granite, limestone colossal in Northern Ireland. That does happen to see get both. Well, that's all

but being american in going over over to Europe or the unit for the first time is really feeling stuff yeah cause. The judge that you know the kind of the silly thing is like our house was built in nineteen twenty eight years. Very old to us, but its laughable in Europe. In you being able to go and connect with original wow. This is neither liver scenario. Somehow so many things have happened in the world, and here this thing stands. We dont build things like that anymore, nine! Won't we don't either I mean it's like, what is new buildings that go up in all the metropolis all over the world. It was such a little bit generic you the same way as other W London or New York. It's like he felt that skyscrapers skyscraper people anywhere now right kind of size, but do you think, thought that back then go all these brownstones jeez. What trap you know, of course, that's our history, I mean. Are we? Do you think it? Some points of sums go look back at the glass boxes and

This is really is, is tat. They really need this Spanish, I'm having a synergy fiery that setting aside this class jack- and I don't know- I don't know the answer- I mean It'S- the Glass box thing is interesting to me because there isn't. I dont know how someone look at that and have any kind of like a moving spit like its devoid its. I guess it's just like. Well, it's you just sleep in it like don't worry about anything it just sleep in it. I don't know. I don't really know my architecture, history, its website ship, it's what you said that this you said this house a sort of work in line with, like your taste sort of Indiana may live Wall Paper to the working of the animal theme, the rocks the wood paneling, I mean yeah. This is I've yeah, I basically when a higher interior decorator,

wifi wanted just talk to you why it will be largely my wife I be lying. I need to talk to uninstall your wife quite seriously as soon as I by someone, that's what I'm saying. Oh, so you don't leave a bar for no, I do not mean the next plays a part in the next place. Like I said, that's how I know timorous. Beasties I've got to miss beasties wallpaper, it's the best and cushions Well, yeah do the fabric Zita family get carried away. I know there are so many it's kind of funny when you meet other folks who have the same kind of Zion aesthetic. You start listing Cassim your publicists was go Wanna wallpapers with yeah Great STAR wars, wallpaper from there I mean it's. You know that it's, it is kind of a week the small community and you'd think what the internet there is an infinite number of places to go and there really got any now. I know there's not it's true. I ve spent the last three days trying to fight I've, been searching different configurations of reclaimed dutch doors, dutch doors, recycled old, dutch dork, I'm trying to find those half doors that have

the little countertops on a mindset and others they get this. How you know you know any twenties anymore, exactly of tens. You like us, so excited so cyanide life for my family, my from me and my brother in May this year, my friends always coming to my home back in london- and I like you, can tell how much time you spend in hotel rooms and so how, because every things like open plan, I have like the free standing bar and this green that is very similar to the green. You got in this room, paneling yeah. You know it's like this. He spent a lot of time in hotel rooms. You do become is, as MRS seeps into a brain. Of course it does because that's your basically having to find a temporary home and set, but that's what so interesting about being. You know, like almost I'd like a transitory performer, where

you take a little bit from here a little bit from your living, but you have to create home somehow were actually on some of the furniture and my dining room. The chairs are Chaz there from a play. That idea and I have we have a real. in Chad and on living room like an old like wings. in China that came off his sat, the Antony directed on we kind of pick up. I have a chair from in darkness, I saw that I said that I southern in darkness, cleaner production, does at the end of you say that IRAN is like you get first dibs on the furniture. Others Ventre first absorb gray. Webs to buy stuff you haven't been. I was also a great antique website, but that the important thing for furniture I think in design is like. Does everything have a story exactly and antiques have an automatic story because their antiques? But

It's even better is putting a job, the EPA eyes cool. If you can guess and then and then like I everything that you're living with her essentially just like it's, it's a living design diary of of your thought. Your life points. Where do you have anything from game of thrones? Do I do have furniture from game that there's nothing? I can do How can I do not, however, share the size of upsets me guys them just this torture, coffee, I'm not doing anyway. I'm sure they're super protecting its almost reason enough to do what you're doing, which is to create your own. Things I can therefore just again how fast it and all the furniture that's exactly right, and so you might actually find yourself. You know senior partner, hey

I think maybe let's do like amid century story, because I need link on the myths and hurry kitchen table yeah and let's centred around that, actually exactly that's how you also know you're twenty January, like how do I? What kind of furniture can I pilfer from everything that I was, that they work work, work that transition. Look, I don't even know what I didn't twenty is, I don't know where furniture came from it? Just I feel like it just appeared like I had a. I can be a problem It came from my key Asia came from my key area, which sounds like a horror movie. That's exactly bliss exactly what was it came from my career and everybody It was flat pack and you put it together, yeah just one little Alan Wrench, we're and there's a with one scream is one

one screw or like their two left handed things, and there should be a left and right now and you get a frightening pack, it all back. Take effect. I hear you know, but I guess that's that sort of the glass box living, though of like I just need things too. I don't need anything. Story, I just need to be able to sleep on something we are tied on around you doing so I feel like when you and your twenty throughout partying you're, taking over the world right you're, not going. I really need to find a lamp Acheson Subpoena, because it's a bit Dublin that corner- and I just want to say that the shutters that it does not work it is at a corner. Peace, that's under thirty. Six inches high actually get to feel emotionally stable areas that measuring tape. I've got some sort of like buying different measuring tapes like this one or just live in the car

in and then there's little live over here. So we don't have to run around from running measuring tank and shall have an answer. But that's how you know we're a mature. A couple- oh, I put it in the thing when we measure the all good. Thank you so much like that type of planning and for thought, but your brain doesn't even fully wire until you're about twenty five or twenty six. You don't think about the future and consequences as much. You know like you at a certain point, your brain like settles in and then you are right. I got a plant roots now we advocate a feeling I went in What are where your? Where do you feel routed? The most London you do yeah I mean I love the states and of being over here West Coast unease, but I've never moved her cleansing. I mean I worked for the right job. Of course I work for the right project, but then go and there's a part of me that always wants to go home. I mean I complain about the rain, but there's something moody and at last

think about it in I minimization other yeah. You know, but that's why, like you peanut, need a bit of vitamin d, get on a plane and come to day. But I guess that's true, but I'm yeah home is still up to this point has been London, but I don't know. Maybe I'm ready. I find myself more compelled towards the green and open spaces, can another age, flower Zimmer move the flower? Would you need to feel it's it's nice to look. Round and feel like peace, biomass in I just you know I dog ILO, going for dog what long term dog walks and still need new chatroom. My life, that's nice, I mean London is pretty spectacular, though it just feels just feel just feel so it's so charming adjusts. Everything is so perfect, the wave at its you know- I mean it it had. It had the age that long in order liquid

recreated and you look around our house. I think we ve tried to have even starting, we tried to grab is very definitely a source if there is suited, and there is a feel there is definitely a ex pat feel I'm getting out of the british and I walked into some random place in London. It's been therefore be no hundreds of years and at some point, someone just the Ricardo down and threw up a weird war covering and threw up his bust of a statue and then a wall of all paint, things and they don't even know if they even give them much thought- and it's perfect dear, like this is the former tonight Agora. Just before Christmas, I was on stage, is the Royal Haymarket and which is this beautiful out their turn? It's like. He certainly look up at the you look up at the ceiling and it's all these sort of fine in a detailed, beautiful paintings like on it, and you know that you find in the church in dumb dinner. It say it's real,

The and the gold gilding everywhere, and you know they just don't make buildings like that. Any money carries. our attention at stage that you know Vivian, stood on end like John, and you know- and you know some great skill good and all these amazing stage act You just feel, I think in London. You do feel history, your right in certain buildings and sound corners, yeah and in the history of the real history of the United States, was wiped out when the colonists opera principle- it's just. It gets a younger as you move west, because that's where you know, as as the Europeans came and settle the men danger system, so we started moving the taking over different parts in them and so they're just isn't there just this side of the country. Just doesn't there's not a lot like our history is like Charlie Chaplin shot a movie here, that's that's about his deepest as we go on the West Coast. There must be some good Dixon S original lake

history though she must be. I'm sure. I'm sure I have been told that before you pre it becoming tinsel town. You know this particular area. Dear, I mean you know a lot of California kind of boomed in the late night. Hundreds, there is a goal. There's a gold rush in California is a lot of people came Weston, you know there were applied. those here and it was very- was it was real

lovely and then just at a certain point like all these buildings when their pictures from the late eighteen, hundreds that you could you go look that if you saw that and said that this was a downtown from today without minus the skyscrapers it looks, it looks like a hipster didn't you know, I mean it built really fast though, but it was really the entertainment industry that is kind of that have it has the most history and less so, but I just don't know so much of that was temporary. They didn't save stuff in those days of things, just got ripped out built over and these doesn't really beautiful ought Deca buildings. I know a few Yang exceeded in a future. there's a couple there's a couple but its, but it's also tiled with a lot of shit. He buildings, where you you know like in the seventies added, are a lot of people here. We gonna just been put this up, doesn't matter you we're stuck all that the advocate stuck over,

a regional stonework too. As a matter we just needed to work here. No, so Ella suffers a lot from that two of just the boom, but I I wonder fur for you were you ever do ever stress Avenue guy. I wanna get a job that I would love to work on, but I and terrified it's gonna, take me away somewhere else for a year at a time now, I'm pretty open. To that I mean I've been. I think that you know that just goes with the territory really, and I found myself in places is because of this job that I would never ordinarily of gone you find yourself, you know over you find yourself in a forest in the middle of Serbia. On the on the serbian bosnian border. But actually I mean like that is an incredibly beautiful place and I would never have gone. I hadn't shop forest where they actually that was late, come.

That was actually quite a blessing to see in a cost over the border and see a little bit of Bosnia, because in reference to in darkness, that's kind of art, the history of our one about couple of our character, Amelia than do the Slav WAR say, and you just fine I learnt scuba dive, because I ended up the regional learnt, scuba diving, because I found myself in some like Serbia, hangover kind of life, old, swimming pool in on the outskirts of thumb, Prague, fund learning training for up in a pilot for an underwater car crash, and he just find yourself it's big that brutalized concrete building from the communist era, learning how to use a regulated properly and you're. Like my life, is we as well, and I would really like to apply the scale and take it to the caravan

which I then Julie did, but you find yourself you find yourself in interesting places. I spent some time in Dubai suited but sort of like behind the closed doors of two by because we sort of invited in by the director was a young british MRI see any mischief, and so I saw elements into by that. Maybe you know Europeans don't always see, and you just by you get. You know when

The locals take you in so to speak. When you go unshaved right, so you see a certain always make best friends or the Teamsters make best friends with the driver, and then you get to see how other worlds that I, like the adventure of my job yeah it's it's there's almost a strange parallel between partner up, like scuba, diving, appropriate up a little bit of a language here and there, the Smet it s sort of like collecting the furniture yeah. Colleagues hacker is right. It is it's an eclectic. It's a numerous number of is a multitude of lives for the price of one right, and I think anyone would create a temperament kind. Does that's nice actors associate musicians or in us here so right is even produces, God love them under which aspires maces. They get cultural stimulus that yeah it's kind of like it is thought wondering troubadour kind of an yeah you're right you got under you want

make sure that you have the time to get down to get the donkey. Do the family, whatever Durham, yeah, that exploration to this fund keeps it fresh and I feel it could also serve as you could. I mean I'm sure there are people who were amazing. I pursued just do theatre their entire lives, but at sea that as a performer dont, you kind a need to go experience a bunch of different weird things, because that sort of helps you create. You know like what are you reaching into when you're in characters or near embodying roles. If you, if you just do one thing, your entire life and don't ever actually reach, the experience and the army. I think you and me, I love. I love this visa. I mean I first and foremost, I always consider myself a stage actor its wine trained as and whenever I go back, you know to the stage as we did before Christmas. It kind of feels like a home coming over and beyond that, exactly what you're saying to go out into the world and meet people and cultures that you wouldn't

really. You know to see the beauty of Croatia for five years in a row the island step down and the croatian coast, or something in game thrones and I mean I'd get to go, but the guy's push up into Iceland and to meet different nationalities. Cultures have these experiences so rich its. Hopefully it makes you you know, what is your perspective and keep your mind open and keeps you and pathetic your deal with roads and interesting show from this I mean like for a lot of reasons, but because I would imagine a lot of the actors probably didn't really see each other except a comical like you're shooting that story and then we're this instrument is over there, a hundred percent. We don't ever work together. Now, that's when we who s only when we saw each other with brass owed, the inner got shuffled out every year, be witnesses, exciting Gaza,

Well, I'm going work with this year. You know, but yeah we will end up not seeing yeah KIT, Harrington and I would go years without heat other than oppress. Do dues inverted commas, so yeah it was, it was in a eyes. It was a tremendous. It was five years of my life. It was incredible experience I sandwiched beautifully by being a fund for season one and now I'm a somewhat it like a fine again for the last season. We, you know with a nice chunk in the middle of. It was just a perfect amount of time to be part of that phenomenon in the true sense of the word. and then be able to leave and get things under my bout. I have the last few years, but still where a little bit of a tattoo. You know my bombers is duty Did you really do I've got the hype? No, no, but I've got them caught. The mark. I gotta go

Billig. You know everyone, because that is that's like that is an experience like if you were gonna get attacked you of something I mean I'm trying. I knew about it a little throat with a little bit to mind the executive arising Getting on with a rose I could have over the moderator out. Yet I haven't done. I got you haven't I haven't done that, but you have a that's just for the record. Is it's not like? I can't we're accrue jacket for a show that I mean that looks of doctors, but when I put a tattoo gets permanent, but did you know that show the community of people are a show, and also can you believe that you can watch the show. a fan again and not go. There's a teamster on the other side of that we are now get completely submerged, and I really do, and that goes for I mean that's good storytelling Re Amira got me even though I know everyone is that care is real life as well as the character, but I mean you know, and it was I you know just report

family in its days- and you know, there's a couple there's a couple: a game, a throne is an in darkness and you know it's just because you know I love these people, so you know, and also they ve mourners hide. Every single british actor at this point Sadly, the heart have across EVA some in some play. You're gonna get a game of plans or a Harry Potter like there's a couple, whereas I asked absorbed so man show much of shooting yeah and the same thing kind of half irish actors as well, because a lot of it see now and in Northern Ireland say I'm a dialogue of the I'd say that a few, the actors that I shall choose, whether what is really good, strong theatre community in Dublin that do the day playing on you know that you does or something might gain missourians. You see the same: the usual reliable and credible actors, the same suspects again and again, that's right, yeah, that's right!

The tourist for a couple of seasons, as there is a third pillar ear. I love I said north and the south different countries, guys Americans, don't always remember that yeah. I love island where we're going to go. My my wife's family ultimately is from like when she back like her families. Their roots are in Ireland than I've. Never I've never been I've. All I've been to I've been to England and I've been to Scotland, but I've. Never in Ireland, and I wanna go soul guy, it's a beautiful summer enter was better time. The guy you come on you're, hiding something romantic about its Harrison horizontal rain. No, yes, I know the greatness. No, I mean sprang summer. Fool I mean you know. Autumn is well very beautiful.

I was I was down doing the ring of carry last year, which is really beautiful, place and really stunning, stunning landscape. I love island, I got you know. I went up large firmly with pride the little bit kind I feel honorary Irish after about fourteen years, work coming and going back from theirs. They viewed. Have you done the irish accents? An irishman you I haven't. Would that make you nervous well area, having thing within I'm an irishman for every decade. I I mean I do it now. I impersonate some people, but I get shot down by my irish friends genetic. They say I sound like a leprechaun, but I'd like to I'm not going to end. No, I'm not going to do right now to be sure Now I would like to give it a go. I'd like to think that the right amount of you know I, with the right amount of hard work when tend to join, you know nail and accent. So I'd like to get back, I want. I

Of great place, so maybe on stage one day knows yet Africa is at its. If you're fishing we were doing in Iraq, a reduction in a play in Ireland. You, don't want people in the odd I wouldn't do that you would have to do with me. I would be one way or the weather tat. I would never do and I was accent in Dublin. It is not worth the hassle I've been. You could tell most Americans away. You're doing now is an irish acts and they go yeah sounds were actually get away with it here. It's bees, but such a beautiful sound. Although I do also like that I have to say when it comes to sexiness, I also let the scottish acts and laws that is good. I think men with the scottish Jackson is, yeah. Well, it cause it's real gradually and you almost kit like it when scottish

we are speaking directly to other scottish people. It's very hard to understand and its impenetrable can't jump in what it is like specially set of class region. That's yes, yeah yeah, but it does it all. Just sounds like incantations near you're. Just casting spells Dona what better animal what this is, but it just that that that's scenery and that greenery and that much that environment you know informed who the people are in infusing. You know such a beautiful. It

such a lovely, looking place that I'm dying the girl now you're your lover and really, where do the music? The culture is the art than you know. It's they have such a rich or the culture. Cultures have such net and I've got some Welshman me. I've got some irish me. I think we're will kind among rose on the british Isles, that on back so that the culture culture of the art, culture is truly a thing to be incredibly proud of its beef a place. And if you play golf and then I did you take off, it's also a good place to go I've got it. I've done it some time before I don't it's not anything. I ever think to do like you do not want to do this weekend. Now. I've never picks up a carbon. I was having dinner with some friends there than I am here man into as a couple. It was really. I was like really tell me more, the young couple- yeah, oh well, yeah, I was really have impressed state- was seemed in Congress. To me, I was like tell me about this

Imagine my life and I go into a golf course. Can a man I mean I. I worked at a golf course. Income so like a bit I mean you know idea we link driving the buggy driving the buggy, I was carrying off bags. I was parking cards. I was, you know getting yelled out by rich people. It's all the things that you'd think would happen, rights right right to pass. It where's, my ball, god dammit, you know it's. A lot of designs are going to you. I don't know. It's traitor but I can't my wife is not yeah like, for instance, you know we're going to the MAGIC Castleton Alec, that's what my wife likes to eat a magic car sentiment, Ass Leah. Is that whether magicians come out, which was recently I've, been told about it. I've been told, I have two guy, it's great. Is a sea like magic trick Chris? I do like a good magic rickety out. Well, you know I got you are my friends rather comedians or magicians juggle. You know she saw the weird basically

circus performers in like any kind of circus performer is kind of who that that that's that's kind of where our hearts horse into. How often do you go to the magic costs? We don't need to go that often ended sizzling right down the street and we will belong to it for a couple years and we just we just never we just don't ever have the time. Will you know I'm sure you? When you're home right, you never did thing in your own home is not worthy of a million India ridable things did, I noticed walking. I realize I mean I should be in the British Museum every day to day and I'm not you know, I'm not so you're quite right. You know you destroy by annually. By Alex Great, I want to go there, please it's great, but boy better. Seven o clock sounds great. Persia early put

a sound, really awesome. Are you late? I personally morning, person I'm late night pass and that's why I'm most I'm more suited to theatre in that way, because when the along gaze of five a m when I'm shooting on it all of her, he I'm not great without caffeine. In an ideal world, I would like to go to work at five p m and finish about one area. My most productive time come home window over. What about you aim to our morning? Players? Are you you're right up with their the lacks a year? I wake up. I'm up early, which is hard when I go to stand up to standard, shows, go until twelve, twelve thirty at night and then I'm just wretch for the next day, and it takes me an entire day to rest up enough to be able to do to shows that night. I just can't

I don't know I loved his army. I love to sleep. I can pretty much dormer by named or mere by nature. I can just gonna call up pretty much anywhere airport green room. That's a survivor technique for sidewalk. I think it is an honour and a man, I'm an upper yeah. You have to do with what you do that you, you would not survive if you, if you had a very rigid sleep schedule, because you just do not afford the luxury, it's like you're gonna, move your work whenever they need you to work. You do not have any control over that, but that's why you know this that ended in darkness will be, which you call wrote this daddy. Am I mean that's the thing to do is not be upon in the energy field and start making this up that you want to see yet well. That's the point that if the alarm is going off for thirty or five make damn sure that you're getting up to do something that you,

really want to do- and you know that's what I did exactly it's kind like server take control of you, your destiny, a little bare if he can, how long to that process, we started rising and need the director and I we started writing it in about two thousand and nine. I think it was my god and then you know two series of drafting we drafting finding a producer. Stepping forward than does in that we were going about another produce and then getting more notes and all that the drafting process into we got the sweat where we wanted it, then obviously you get jobs since he gets thrown too far flung corners of the world Ass, he put on ice and you come back to air and then finally secure, the money in getting talent schedule to line up and so on. It was seven years till we gone sat Thursday choosing, so that was a pretty special day.

That's insane I mean that's so that's nine is about is coming up to nine years now, because we show eighteen months ago. I mean that that's if, if that project was a child, that's Was its entire young curriculum vitae of just like a child is definitely my baby I'd like you to take half the time. Next time I mean it was a massive. It was a wonderful learning curve, though I learn so much about you know all the crofts. Basically, because now your invested in war. Everyone is doing on that sat not just your own business and it made me better actor and I'm just the process of what it is to get in, and I respect any that just gets a film made period. It so I mean is attracting and we say all the time, but actually for the stars to align the anything to get made is truly a miracle yeah, so it some when I stand on other people's sets now I'm not

me. I was always respectful kind of new, but I've lived. It now I'm always you know when people say I, this is my passion project in China. We ve been developing at fifteen years, unlike I'm here to give you everything, I'm here, to give everything I've got or right now, because I know that took because there are a lot of different scale. Sets me like. First there's just skills it of you, you learn how to fight. Creativity, you're, going to have an idea. Brain blotted people have ideas. That's great! You got an idea. Ok, now, rushing to start doing it that's a whole other, yet muscle, but then to stick it. year after year. I mean how do you even know, but you know by the time you ready to shoot. Do you go my guy? Do I even think this is what they should be anymore. I'm sure it's the same with you in your material. It's like you are so in you, ve been so immersed in it for so long that

You know you do lose your perception slightly and you have to listen to other people. It's the I mean, that's the big scale. I learn is listening to a constructive criticism because something that you think as those on the page we actually got tee shirts made one of the producers so a couple of the producers and energy, and I will give tee shirts made. That said on the front of it, it's a hangover from a previous draft, because they would be in the script and we'd be like we'd, be like this isn't working like guys. Why isn't limousine asked when we really looked at this scene and night? That component doesn't especially thriller sure almost like comedy. It's like you, gotta, set something odd in order for the pay off. You know she got a track certain things and indeed

with this- doesn't make sense anymore, because we did this, we turn we change there and then send we kept saying and, like you know, in this in the page turn, but in the pre production we would like honour. That was a hangover from a fruitless off that dynamic rhodesia. In the end, we got digits made of it because rules as a phrase. We were saying again and again, but you can't see the wood for the trees. The forest for the cheeses you guys say offer was it really helps, is so wonderful when the act to step in and the crew step in, and they point out of that makes perfect sense. That doesn't make sense at all. You know, like someone else, people get me off to a good reason, fresh eyes, yeah, well and also how can you be in stuff they like it? Are you Are you able to separate, because you know so much about the project? It was really as an actor. It was a really interesting experience because for the first time ever, I didn't really need to do

inverted commas, characterisation washer, because I'd written the character. You know, five years. So I just knew her and I had read. I had you not before I got there, drones and hunger games and before I should have had this little and when my profile altered, I was fully expecting to hand this file over to another actress. You know I'm old bankable actress he was gonna, take who was gonna play Sophia in darkness, and I thought I was just going to be. You know the co Reiser and maybe have a cameo role in there somewhere, but I did not think I was gonna play her so often get. You know that the wonderful thing that the thrones and the hunger games did for me was

gave me the ability to play their role in the script that I raised right and I am you know so grateful for that, because I was literally gonna hand the file over the to somebody else and say you do and then I was like I just I knew her, so it was wonderful in that regard and withdrew. It seems you finish, Are you were there any part of you? That's like let's go do this again or do you already have something in development? I got a couple of things in development. I haven't started. I haven't. I want to write again because I found an incredibly rewarding experience and I can say much more mundane Vanessa I would like you know: the gestation period were brutally Vienna a quarter of the time, because I've really, I really learned I have learnt a lot and I mean I want to learn so much more so I'd like you know, I would like to write more, but I am developing staff. Definitely an addendum

it's some it's it's addictive. Getting in a glance and the other side, and and also I love, I love the team sport of ill. I love like I love the collective effort because being enacted and I'm sure, as with you in your shows its like, it can be quiet and isolating insular. Sure you know ex post ass, I may act can take themselves away and be you know engrossed, but that, as you know, to be part to be produced it to be a writer to be part of the development to have stakes in what everyone else is doing and to consider yourself more leader and part of a family that is trying to achieve a story and everyone throwing their ideas on the table for the betterment of the story. Like that's catnip its, I found it quite addictive sure, and I want to be part of it.

It's kind of my natural instinct. So will you I mean it I'm not a novelist at heart, the it wants to go, and you know road hide away somewhere fool. be transferred his dress. When my daughter, she's great Kitticut collaboration is great because it you get it unique chemistry with every different person and there's something new and magical that happens with each time you go. Oh, this team brings out this facet and this you know this organism net was born of this grouping is a slightly different, has a slightly different tone this way, and so I think there is. There is also an addiction to just experimenting with as many different. You know chemical compounds as possible because you get to see they all yield slightly. Front things absolutely: unlike in a game auditory talks a you know, I was watching the round tables last award season. You know he's

looking very eloquently about how limitation, actually limitations and budget or location or in time actually help you, because you force it to this decision. so some when you're writing and shooting a thriller which is meant to be tight, biased. Nature, has to be clean and nothing superfluous, INA extraneous just because that does requires a clarity. I'm not thinking on your feet, hey guys, we gotta, Learn how we gonna do it in that moment what you know either Hell Anthony and I don't mind if the grips got a good idea sure know it's like, and I just I get it acts kind of guerrilla type of efforts greatest of the shooting type of efforts I get it. You know the adrenaline wash is pretty Wonderful. Why would a measure? Because you know when you're acting it's probably hard to feel like you're doing anything, because you don't

Many control over the final result, they'll tell you like. Oh, this is seeing you do the scene, maybe due to couple different ways and the kind of use whatever works, better them you're, really I'm sure, but when you're action making something you knew. I think it satisfies that thing that a lot of creative pursuits don't give. Which is, I am doing, I'm making a thing. This is a product that I am making you know, because we don't we're, not people who go off in like manner actually a toy or something where you can see it come off the assembly line there. It is, and you can see, in China. I am reminding yourself like what you why you're doing a slight, because the blood sweat tears involve Emmy without sounding to one key. It's like what was the matter. When I started writing ass, you know lay so you don't lose yourself and like going back,

can going on China. Remember why I wanted cathartic led to make this movie, and I mean I find acting a cathartic process. Anything I think it's why I do it s kind of handled title how fucked up the world it's my way of like medication. Taken more seriously is like a Kurth, then I'm sure you do isn't dissimilar. You know writing just gave another way of doing now, and it's sort of annex for instance in sulphur honest as well, it's like an eye and and and seeing that transfers. But it's really, you know when someone asked gets it when they read your script or they watch movie and they go. Oh, I see you were you know these things. You ve got going on of forgiveness of yourself for

redemption or revenge and letting the Pasco family, or you knows, site self identity and- and you like on my when someone understands what you were trying to hint tat its it. So you ve it's so invigorating it some and normally as an actor just to be the vessel of that, and I love just being the gun for higher in the vessel, but to see a glimpse of the other side as well that maybe it's open to me that I can do both road. is fierce. Fails nice goods as our efforts we any might also. You know you might also have the experience where someone goes. Oh, it looks like you're dealing with this thing or that thing and you didn't realize you go. Oh my god. I never thought cause you're, just obviously everything, everything that you make. Every creative thing is an expression of something in your brain and I feel, like you don't know,

know what that is that until you make it and then you go her. Oh, I guess You know that this makes sense. I you know I was afraid of being abandoned. When I was kid and look at this. The edge wouldn't even intend to make this a match. This tone of this thing that came out coup absolutely- and you know I mean data both famously such another. I mean in this is obvious me. Most people know it, but it's like the old is subjective, and I get asked airline interviews for the metric. Put you on the audience to feel young talking about at the moment when I've been promoting picnic with the direct payment to hang in work. with Louis the contract and we openly talk about how she s, like the show runner, and I have different interpretations to war. The fish the show is. Actually you know that that tagline about like, what's its actually about in an like, that's that's how it should be that it has a different message, not just for the audience that they can own and time and what they wanted to be about.

On a stamp on it, but that the actual creators fear like eyes were there is some discrepancy. Slight discrepancy in exactly what the main theme or themes are road, and I I find that fascinating. It's like you know like when we look at Europe, but I think we are making a Laker pastoral, you no more papers. What do you see? What does that? How does that make you feel and it's like when you can make reading good shit, entertainment, but sneak in a little bit of awe and Chrome it's for the depth comes in that those are them. Those are the things that you know where something is people can appreciate the shiny level over the girl This was a what a thrill ride, but then it's the stuff that has those those deeper psychological or emotional waits that that kind of ground them in something that even a people, camp, exact,

but their finger on it, yeah resonate with them in some up way where they they go. My god! I was really moved by this because you you you had a real experience and a number of other people will just attach themselves to that concerning, although I had that two or I the latter. This help me through this I mean that's, that's the real logic of it. Do you want to do a poet? right play. Do you think I don't know that's the way interesting question: it's like you I do. I tell what interests me about play is that it contains space and again is about station. Yes, that you can only do so well, we know unless obviously you going. What mind of your audience in their imagination, but it's if it's interesting, you know I feel like I'm. I haven't got. The answer is yes, I feel like I'm, maybe like dipping my tone to the water of life, the next evolutionary space of not you

brain. Just you know I am. I am open to suggestions out of because I feel this creative impulse and I feel like I get it now. You know I feel, like I mean, like the mechanics of the industry and I feel like I've done, my Malcolm Gladwell, ten thousand riders. You know I'm so then with in that, but the universe Semon Exciting things happening at the moment within the industry. Things are shifting. They do so that it feels a little bit like the wild West, like people are open to ideas at the moment, and God knows this so much opportunity for content. So it's like you know what are you? What are you when you weren't dreams like any? Take? Five minutes have little think about things speak of I do something comedic soon I would imagine the pay I debts was of comic timing. It was like a dark was I you know a dark comedy, and I I mean I I do have remained an awkward situation.

report a pillow joke about it? I'm talking. Don't I'm point in category. I can be amazing. What have you know? I can do the timing managed to pull it off on stage, and I mean I don't if you go right back to let my first gig ever light was like glass. A horse from Casanova with HEAT Ledger mean that kind of had a less physical comedy to, and you know I left it at left. I my teeth into some proper comedy. I really word absolutely: maybe it up and Ngos and lessons. Maybe I don't know I mean I'm, not I'm not like Amerika Theater. I don't know much about like Theatre comedy it. Fifteen or company, just feels very like prison. Patient. All to me in very to do something: whipped. Smart cities like a no coward play oil eyed. The add that I think that would be a lot of fun. Will you have, I think, you're so to a very strong idea of what are you? What are you going after? You know, like I feel, like Comedy Blake Pledge, Theatre Comedy, there's a thing that there is an idea that there that the

it is attacking or like really going after a sad arising in in a very you know, and it has a lot of teeth to it. So you know I don't know, that's just not that that kind of common data, because we re good writing a comedy play cause I've I've. I projects make it too much like a sick, come you know, and that's not the difference that quite the same thing, but I'm not used to you know, stand up a subtle, lone Wolf thing: we don't really get the experience of Jerry. Algeria will take any improper sketch classes or anything like that. I've done Adam Improv Car says, and I have had friends over the years. He will stand up. Quite you know, I know quite a few comedians. I think what you guys is evil. high octane them? What we do, I mean you're, really holding onto the sea of your pants on doping. Kick that you guys get when you get it right is

credit and the crash immediately said actually seeing the grasses, but I feel like they are always good listeners, because so used to do in our own lets you do like crowd were, but improv training is great. I think is too great for anything, because it gets teaches you to look at people reed. What they're trying to do and listen to that? Listen with your eyes and listen. We're through acting is reacting its reactionary anti. What about our dollars the Pike S in his thing? Was. I never heard anyone say this before and it blew my new they just do you got? This must fucking obvious thing in the world, but he said, but the whole idea was finding your performance and another actors eyes and I was all she's is Christ. I never know, but that would that's always what I do. That's my go to place if I can smell bullshit and my own performance. I know I'm like phoning

No, I'm not feeling something's going wrong. You just go back to the other person cause you're lucky, you think about in life, we're looking to effect the person we're talking to, and that was the hardest bloody thing about shooting in darkness. Is I couldn't because I'm playing a blind woman right? I could not make eye contact with my coastal and the first thing I thought was: oh, my god, I'm so rude. It's like it's all right now. They know you're playing someone is blind or that it was like this massive. I completely underestimated eyes exactly what you said that my safety net on camera, not necessarily on stage, although one stage too, to be watching the other person to watch to not be able to make eye contact with the other actor, especially in close close up work, was really something I had to get past a night. You know talks

Two Antony directing I was worried because it really is the lifeline answer you have to turn allies. I may I would end up some silly, but you know I do a with my eyes closed and then you re listening. You really really listening. Is that only what you have you lose their other sense? www? Imitating that you have you have to try and shut that sent off in the acting environment and it was it was really much harder than I was anticipating yeah. I mean that I can't even that experience of iron rightness, where we work on this for a long time, shit, no, we gotta do it yeah right, I didn't even know I got. I know I mean I was it like. I said I was a real cow like when I was thinking of handing the file over to the other actors that, yes, you play the piano

I've got to do, as I thought you did. A piano is now wearing a blind for God. Damn I ran myself over. There is not an area yeah. What do you think is the thing that you learnt like when you say. Oh, you are obviously learning curve, is so steep when you're when you're making something, but what what? What was the most important thing, a couple things that you learned that your excited to employ on your next project. I learned you know the I've Ayscue its emboldened me sing. that when I read a line- and I don't think it works- or I think I can add something else in the syntax or I can just guy I've I've learned not to be so shy in going to the director of the writer and saying, hey just a suggestion, but this could why, if I did this instead,

because being on the other side of that I'd, be that you know if at screen or Ino, Jody Richardson turned to me and said not. Can I change this line? I believe? Oh, my god. Yes, so much better, you're, quite right that so much more naturalistic or that works in much better from that point, eight b, which want to get the scene too. So the just the confidence to offer up road, definitely and also like just don't be precious. I mean Wait you precious! When I started writing. I found the notes process. Weirdly I'd. I've worked out how to take four Jackson as an actor quite early on in my career and not assimilate it with a rejection of my personal self road. But why don't you ve had assumed experience, but when

someone like has a constructive criticism for your writing. You feel like they ve, stabbed you in the how I felt like stopped coming out of my head go need. I have any interesting thoughts of veal and then either and separating the again. The though that you with what you write is again not a rejection of your personal south road and being open to taking on notes. I think that a good sign, no, I mean yes, it's good to learn to not be too sensitive when you get notes, but it's a good sign that you that not only do you care about where you're making, but also that it came from somewhere personal. Well, you know what you're battles out. If you have two priority list, what you feel passionately about right, it helps you. You know you can eat,

and always in a you pick your you literally pick your battles, so I feel really strongly about acts and I'm not gonna. I'm not. Are you not gonna move me on acts, but therefore, why and said, is maybe up for negotiation and that can be regards align, seen a cots costing a location. Anything- and this is how it organically you know it grows you they said You know this is three movies or those three squibs, because we now we're in the golden era. Television, I feel like saying film is reductive. That is like there's the innate there's. This does the as the movie right the movie issue in the movie you caught and at three totally different matter? Not the same would be for you. It's like the idea. You have the execute, Another and the way the audience respond. Alienated. Three different thing: you don't know because you you haven't, I do your head is

as it is a simulation. It's basically like a holodeck and you can run the simulation in your head go well. This is probably how it will work, but it's just not because it relies on the chemistry of other people any and then the other people who are working with them and also the audience is a whole other supper relationship of chemistry. Do like a lot of the time. I like all this thing, I thought was really gonna work. I was convinced it was gonna work, but it doesn't at least according to the audience. So I guess I'll, just a just and kind of figure it out with them more nobody's camp You know it's incredible whose Lebanon was doing Venus and on the west end. It's like you know that be one we won joint one night that would go down a storm. Show you have this one line. One night goes out to the house on via another night. Let you can him. You know the crickets road, it's like annual at what does he know it's like? Is it the is the? As you say, the alchemy of in that, but transient moment that

beauty of life performance right. It's a transient moment. Crystallizes on the magic of the moment, works it doesnt work night tonight pending the in film, you don't you you have to make that choice right stir. Well, this is what do I mean? That's the beauty of not being the director is handing over to undermine going and that's. What's he got you made the tough cool off you go with plays, though, that thing you're talking about world joke lands, one night it doesn't when the next night the play can't ever change to adapt them to the very fortunate thing about just about to be set up is that you can adjust everything you're doing. Ok, you're, not just the way, but in a play you can adjust the tone the blocking the lead up to air. Not in the moment like you get in the habit of the boy, you can be like a bitter walk over there, because European Zita

do everything. You know. I think I mean that's true free. That is true freedom. I mean, unless you doing like a Beckett play or something where everything is like denote, the stage directions are written to the letter. I mean I mean you know, that's that France between you know doing Shakespeare, and you feel that you have to follow the grandma light. Doing this thing with Patrick. over and going Patrick in Asia. Great friend going Patchett coming just drop the INA. Can I dropped that word? There would be like you, I don't think anyone who knows is going to see you see. You see you try

tonight don't save, know anyone notices area. We do that with Shakespeare accurately the rejected, but you know it this idea that you know freedom can actually the idea. I think people like that can be given liberated by by equally given liberty by by limitation. That's exactly rap that, because it does your most creative, when you have two problems, all yes, not when you have unlimited resources. Yeah, I mean a pervert examples, like just scope. Just go sit in front of Google, the Google Homepage and I can learn anything in the collective sum total of human knowledge. Anything I want to learn how to burn. I dont know what I want you to that's. That is absolute freedom. You can learn anything If you're, given too much choice, you kind of squaring ranges gets a traffic jam, but but problem solving as were the creativity comes from. So you know as well wrapping this down for a while. I wonder people gotta be like

How come you know about game? A thrones? Well, because you ve talked about it a million times, and I wanted to get to know you as a person. You have my wallpaper perfect wallpaper preferences, but what is something that you're? What does something that brings you joy at the moment and it doesn't have to be a work thing. It can be anything as there is there. One kind of little thing that just you know like you, go back to that kind of brings you happiness in an otherwise care, KEN Topsy turvy world yeah. I mean we ewing you talking about. I only said how beautiful Scotland was. I was up in the Isle of Sky. That is, we know right in the top left hand corner of Scotland. A few weeks ago, with my with my family and you know, we were walking the dogs and the landscape was just in. but of all its and the air in your lungs, is so fresh that it almost you know it's almost abrasive and You just see these stunning mountains in the sun and the shadows glide over it, and you just get a sense of perspective.

I mean you turn on the news at the moment and everything so blinking depressing. But when you see light the majesty of that kind of landscape If not, we will say before me. I mean America's by incredible landscape in it that you see like and hanging work as well picnic hanging. Amazon show that I've got coming out standing on that Mount ideologies which is actually the hanging work that has been there for millennia, and you know sacred You know the indigenous population in Australia, and you just see mother nature I take solace from it might sound like her. You know me slightly. One low not- and I really do an inner getting outside and going for a walk. With the dark and getting some fresh air in your lungs and looking at the majesty of this world that we're rapidly changing Roy really really really helps really helps me. Maybe their supply in there somewhere

get the majesty of the stage. That's exactly right and also for teaching me my new favour. Word winkie is very briefly love it I mean I remember, like I mean I'd, get we're not gonna around the verb to one year later, but something being way. Is an agitated as an indulgent yeah. Oh, my god is the big that Winkie is an adjective slash predicted. Nominative is definitely going to that. This is a piece of furniture emanating from this broadcasts are not going to take lanky grand. I hope you don't mind probably all right. Thank you so much for being here now it over so quickly get hanging rock. Is that notes on Amazon? What is it prepared yet? Or what is the day in darkness am picnic hanging on both the twenty fifth of May omega. I know what are the chances of a double we'll dose of dormer yet the day of Doom Darmstadt, sorry guys Latasha dorms Day, that's twenty

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