Rainn Wilson returns to the podcast! He and Chris talk about working on House of 1000 Corpses together, the phenomenon of "The Office", and not getting typecast as Dwight. They also come up with an idea for a Mork & Mindy reboot and Rainn talks about his new scripted podcast "Dark Air with Terry Carnation", now available wherever you get your podcasts!
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wants to share thing, this episode is MR rain. Wilson back who's been coming at the park has, since the earliest days of the eighty twenty
cast rain, and I did a little film called house of a thousand corpses together way back in the year
to rise and didn't grammatical, two thousand three, but we shouted in two thousand, and I just love this guy. We been friends forever. I've always been so delighted and glad for rains very much deserves success. I honest, I think, like the office is one of the most watched things.
In the human world, some very happy for rain. He always works on really cool stuff. His great actor matches and, like all the stuff, the rain does he's just. He is such a gifted performer and has a good eye for cool stuff to pick, and he has a new podcast called dark AIR with Terry Carnation, which is available wherever you listen to podcast. It's a fictional, dark, comedic podcast explores the on and off air life of Terry Carnation. A late night talk, show a radio show host who deals with bizarre topics, outrage
callers and gets caught up in a mystery of his own about there's a lot of really wonderful, cameos boys, chemicals and there as well. So I recommend to you and I think, miss
Jane Wilson becoming back on the path gas eleven. Twenty eight is this one? Oh, my gosh one thousand one hundred and twelve
It was the right wasn't returning to the eighty twenty podcast as we roll the thing I can't even
Yeah,
Yes all Norma, like a man who really want to fall in your head,
like a memory, but not so much a memory, just a general fall
with the professional audio set up? Oh my god look at that and he got a little.
Robot or you might like to stay
fuckin headphones. I'm I'm, I'm I'm a pod, castor! Now, Chris, I don't know, I don't know what kind of like
professional? What are you talking to your little computers for the very feet
I used to do what you're doing and then at a certain point I was like you know. The complete laptop sounds good. You know I got a new macbook last last year, it so itself. I like the white zombie teacher. You know I wore this. I put this
today. Then I realized,
God rains gonna be on today? This is accidentally perfect. This
We are then ties everything together. I dont know why. But when I put
shirt on and I realise that we were talking today. I have this really distinct
memory that I hadn't thought of in probably fifteen or twenty years when we were shooting, has a thousand corpses around
the year two thousand dear lord- that for some reason I think you discovered that robs middle name was Wolfgang or something
and so we started doing these old timer voices calling him our w like it was like. I always shooting the fish boy seen today we opened and we kept calling
w and he bought. It was really funny, so he would play along and I don't know why
Remember that I have not thought about that in almost twenty years. That is funny I now I had not remembered that
twenty years, but you said that- and I remember that it was like our w
zombie Mc Cummings. Yes, Sir Mister Cummings, like
I cut by the council.
it is because we were shooting on the universal lot. So it was that I was like all all these old, tiny
buildings around there, and you know, and George George Corps
shot. You know welcomed event.
surround the corner or something like that. So we were in old timing tv voices w at that organs is upset someone's taken. The last crawler like it was a lot of old. Maybe I just remember us shoot
what shoot the movie and the House one thousand corpses house.
Also this the extra exterior house of the vessel whorehouse in Texas, Rang movie, and we were just walk up the hill any dinner at this at the Psycho House, which was just an empty facade.
Right, but what a fuckin amazing time that was- and that was
essentially my first movie because I had done a cup
little appearances and some just tiny India, films in New York,
before I came to allay and ninety nine and then I done small cameos in Galaxy Quest and almost famous, but this was like doing a movie. This was like.
there was a six million seven million dollar budget and we were on it. I was working for three and a half weeks and were showing up every day so
it was so cool to kind of like, while my first like role in a movie that had up a bit
the middle and end, and I am here on the universal lot having dinner in the psycho house- and
the tourist go around on the trams. Remember they'd after like hold the tree,
hands while were shooting like the tourist trade
you play- was bought this house with all these we're doll, heads and fucking monster
Indeed it is, and was it Matthew Mccoy?
that his name worry about your hammer blow. He is you know all of seven foot, ten yeah not come
out of his trailer and walking past the to the tourists on their little trams, denies that when earn the mask- and it was
So incredible, but I also remember the I was so thankful that everyone on that movie was so funny and cool, and you know it
and you had a background. It scattered comedy and join in arabic
its body. Jerry was obviously already maturing rob, but it was just it was so much fun and what I loved is that Rob had us do like weeks of just rehearsals at his house, which inevitably ended up just turning into like barbecues in poor parties rain you running
on the back yard, with a town for a cape, you know we're very looked back. Probably did I run around my underwear, I probably didn't you yeah yeah, it's kind of an old stand by for me as it was a sort of like when I think back rooms, sort of like me- and I was like that was like movie college
You know like that, like
that was are sort of, I don't know, was it I'd, never done it.
Your movie before I done tv, but not a real movie, and it just the whole thing was like top to Bottom Superfund, but I think that I think those rehearsals for actors are really help the film a lot, because there's a certain comfort,
you develop and you get to know each other and you get to know each other's energy and then, when you show up on set, you know what it's like when you do a movie in New York.
And sent you don't really know anyone in there just kind of self consciousness you you might be relaxed as an actor and know what you're doing in the character, but there's just that
ten or fifteen percent of your energy is a little self conscious and a kind of makes you gonna hold back and it you can feel it. You know, I think you can really feel it and when you, when you really get to know a caste and the director- and you start to do you know just to sink,
dial in what are they call when a drummer likeness is in the pocket? You know it helps a peace so much, and I think that's one of the reasons why it I mean, obviously it's it's a kind of a classic horror film for a mostly because of Mr Zombie in his peculiar,
wonderful vision, but also because people you pick up on that, and it was the same in the office in some other projects that I've done, where you pick up on that kind of a camera
Three. The energy comes off the screen. Yeah I mean it it having that kind of a good. I think an audience can tell. I must this endeavour, certainly people who can
the shit out of step and make they can really make chemistry. They can engineer, you know they govern, oh how to mechanically do it, but I also feel like I mean it cannot be an accident that after all these years, particularly the office is still like
as popular, if not more popular than it ever was because of you. I mean obviously system really fucking funny
show, but I think a lot about humour to stem from the fact of, like you take a bunch of really incredibly talented, funny people. You give
good scripts and the ability to fuck around with each other in that they are of comfort where they all know each other, then it just it's like it's just its magical. It's just fucking magic while in and in that comes from the top down to like with the office. He. I can't believe we were drawing these parallels between house of a thousand corpses and the Arthur Miller very similar, all cut from the same color
but be coming from the top down. You don't Gregg Daniels in the office just like he just said. Yes, every thing to say
Oh, you want to try to Alice, let's try it but see. Let's see what happens like, I have a whole new idea for the seen great. Let's try it. Fortunately, there were no big ego cases, so it didn't kind of because that stuff can kind of blow up and people's faces and go away, go sideways, yeah yeah, but that that helped create that same energy and rob in a zombie the same thing we had ideas.
try or be goofy or go off scrap like he's just totally down for whatever, and he creates a certain kind of real
station that you really the audience picks up on. Well, I mean I know that there are people who thrive in turmoil. I feel like there, the the the minority of creative tax. I feel like most people thrive when their comfortable you know, lay on when they feel like they have the room to try stuff but it, but that they don't have to live or die by it. It's like will try this it'll be fun. You know, and we certainly certainly haven't corpses, and it just seems I mean I've talked with a hundred times the Pakistan a thousand times with robs about her.
You know we make this movie that's a big deal, but then it gets shelved for like two years in the housing like. Oh, why get that's ever gonna commandment? It does, and it is just like a sputter when it comes out. It's like, ok. Well, I guess I was
all that for that kind of thing we still had found it was great and then home video, then all of a sudden-
when he later and that people still asked me to accept
their corpses, which I love like. I love that that we have this shorthand for this. Like you know, Canada
any moment in horror which, as you know, my wife and my favorite genre, so it's it out of a really cool that we got to be a you know, even a small part of it. No, it's show rare too
I think about this- like I have done so many movies that no one has ever seen and that no one gives a fuck about, and God
from some of them are really good. Some are not so good, but some of them are really good, but they just don't make if you're, if you're able to do something and its good, that's a miracle. If you know, if you are able to meet me backup if you're evil, to make something at all, it's
fucking miracle view right, you get to be a part of a movie or a tv show any gets green lit and it happens in its cast and you get paid. It is a miracle when their know how things can get fucked up.
It is crazy that aiming it's been, you got. How does anything get made the exactly totally and then and then, if you make it and it's good rising? Oh, that's! That's a miracle on a miracle benefits but still
made a lot of things and they ve been good and no one has seen them and then, if you make something you make something and its good and it resonates and finds an audience like that is like beyond, and if it's only been, I don't know.
Three or four things in my whole career that have really popped like that and dumb and courtiers. They pop really big.
you make a lot of really cool. You know, I think. Maybe you might have a point of view because I see was someone who makes very artistic creative choices. You seem to work on things because it's something innately about it. Just felt like this feels really interesting to me as rain. This feels interesting to me, and I want to try something you know cause it's really interesting now to have people look back and you know and look at super. Is this like why this is really like avant garde, like really forward thinking like superhero peeling sort of a superhero piece? You know, and so I do think that you
you constantly make these really cool artistic choices and with aren't you just never know what you just can ever like. You can do what you can do and if it connects to people, maybe the timing was weird
didn't get the right chance. You know didn't find the right platform or whatever, but that doesn't mean you ve done so many fun cool things, caress, you're, so kind your set it champion and that, like always, that is that part of your process where you were you like? How do you when you are presented? Things are you're looking at scripts and you're, trying to figure out, like you really do, make constantly interesting choices with stuff that you do well. I love the. I love that you're defining it as like, as if I have like these
of scripts lined up in front of me like all these offers, like no, I'm gonna turn down the Marvel movie and I'm an attorney
the jailer romantic comedy stupid budgets, and let me do let me do this-
middling, very strange. Independent com, instead left does not work like that. Like you know, there's it's tough, you know it's tough, being being known as Dwight, and just like wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait and it it is, limiting its awesome. It's like the greatest event of my life is being in the office and next to doing this podcast end. But it is it's it's you know it's tough in ITALY, it limits things, but I would say that for me, part of it is Chris, like it's just who I am as a person like I'm an odd person, I'm just a big weird, looking ungainly strange actor. Who has a you know very particular a scam
spoil a view in the world and that attracts certain projects. To me. Do you know I mean like I'm, never going to get offered like a Netflix romantic comedy or something that's kind of bland. I always know that though you never know that, though, and I just want to drop I'm- I just want to drop a couple examples. First of all, can I do think it's the long game mentioned what it must have been
for Robin Williams to come off of more convincing, which was like I click at the time, like everyone knew him as Mark right hand, especially at a time when tv stars did not poured over to film very well.
yeah and yet he managed to and by the eighties I made it took a while. But then people stopped going more more more work,
and I was just talking to someone else the other day about, like you know, nobody,
Kirk is an action. Stark is nobody? Is a fucking kick ass movie? You know I like like, so I think you just never know. I really do think it's the long game of like
You know there might be appeared where people go like light, but the more
you do in the more interesting choices you make? I do think that just becomes a part of your arsenal and not necessarily year defining imagery. If that makes a woman, maybe I need to be a part of the more convinced, reboot and then they'll be like Twite Mark TWAIN Mark TWAIN.
No, no, no, not windy. Look what I just said: Elizabeth of bodily fizzy in my face.
war nor the office of my office, boy,
and remember it always have that conversation with Orson Bork. Where did you learn
humans. This week Orson. I learned that people can be sad too,
people are like trees, they need pruning, but they also need love. Listen. This is your audition for the reboot, your kid- I am I D. I have it actually as both more Anderson. Just if I'm being I'm a little aged out of mark now, I think I really would be cast his ores,
which are good. I could just like phone it in a bar if you remember the organs age backwards, so
You work technically you'd, be young! Mark, if I'm being Superman,
How do you remember that detail about more commending takes the place of important things like? Where did I set my phone right? That is where that we're going. That's that's where that ship in your brain is a term. You know, I think, if I may hold forth a little bit about if I live as an artist girls. One thing that I'm really grateful for is coming from a theatre background in New York because as a theatre actor, it's all about like the role in the story
so you're, not really thinking about like career. I mean we all thought about careers and will always wanted a better agent. We always wanted to be a law and order and get them enough. Sixteen hundred dollar check for you now being the guys like.
I used to see him come around here, but now I don't see him very much anymore, that guy and law and order but turn. But it's all about the role in like how to bring the
the life and, what's the story you're telling, so I guess that's where I always start like. If I get a script, is kind of like who's the character have I played this before. I dont want to play a character that I've played before. How do I bring to life
help tell this really interesting story, and so I think that you know it's all about Chris. At the end of the day,
little Oscars in Memoriam.
when when Rain Wilson dies, I want it the three or four scenes from the movies and the stuff that I did,
to be in that gauzy kind of video montage thing and to have people go.
oh yeah. He did a lot more than twice in. Oh you did some of those. He did someone
existing rules there. Well, technically, I guess if it's the Oscars, it be weird if they showed a tv credit, so they probably have to show film credit servants. True, probably be maybe maybe fish boy would be. The finally may I hope is Recital b o dicing law. I hope its fish boy. You know some day them for awfully far distant future. When you do because I also remember that you sitting in that configuration
was like. That was a pretty much in all tat. You are in that configuration fur, eight or nine hours because they had to sort of like Wayne had a mould you into that pose. That was I not. That was not a bull that was you like frozen into a space accident yeah. It was I needed like nowadays there would have been like someone doing physical therapy on this
because I had to go my torso through this table, and then I had the lean during my torso over all the way to the right. So my spine was just like warped, like up like a twizel her, you know her hours at a time.
I was sealed into that table. So I couldn't move, it was who's been pretty brutal, but I was just
I was so young. It was my first big movie ouses. I guess I get to do this. Well, I'd be like that company to look. If you had a sketch comedy group yeah, though it was very character in that way, it felt like it was. It was kind of sketchy and that, like us, like NATO, mean sketchy, isn't like bad news. I mean yeah like Sketch comedy like yeah yeah yeah. It was yet this did the group that brought me I'll tell. I was
although the new boss, zena- and we did this crazy messed up- show with these weird clowns and giant talking birds that we're having a kind
sensuous love affair in it was very, very surreal and dumb. So I've been doing a lot of that when, when we started corpses.
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we now return to. I have always marvel at the fact that the office was a show that you know America. America has not historically done a great job of adapting british source material and I think that often come from the fact that you are, even though the Americans in the Brits use a lot of the same words. We don't necessarily so
the same language. We dont speak same cultural language, the things that work well over there that makes its over here we try to translate them, and then it sort of loses the magic that, but somehow the office manage to be its own completely own thing like not that it somehow pay homage to the source material, but also at the same time, was entirely its own entity, which is a real feet. Yeah, I'm in
no listen. We ve all said this, but you know our fearless leader, Gregg Daniels. He was the one behind that, like he's
this Brain Yak comedy writer from Harvard he was he had been
The simpsons he had been on Seinfeld have been on Saturday night live. You really like come up through classic comedy, and he just show
and Smart. Like every decision, you know you you just like really rigorous rigorously behind every creative decision that was made, and I think that
very rare in tv comedy, you know what's in it and he made,
Ruin feel like there were a part of making those decision, so we have long conversations like multi our conversations about white and, like we look at the glasses when we try on all these different glass,
in which one do you like. And why, and how is this? We don't want nerd glasses, wouldn't want glasses. We ve seen before you ve gotta, show my face to the copy glasses that obscure the face, and it's gonna feel like
you know, a glass is that are out of time. You, like the amount of like thought that went into Dwight Glasses, for instance, Neches one detail was
was really incredible. I've never seen it before or since, and I think that's
That's the number one reason why the show worked. The way that it does, and also, I think why it
we watch people on Netflix that it is basically I mean, listen. I think you can set it even predates the pandemic, like people like watching the shit out of the office on network, but especially in the last year where people feel out of sorts and their worlds or appended- and you know it's scary, and no, no, that's going on there's nothing like a show that
seen a hundred times, just like the these safety and warmth of a new style Jack Comedy ride to jam. It feel like like it legitimately it. This is very good for mental health. I think so, even just that that we live in a time where, because, if because when we started, you know you could buy like home, video was a markets like you could buy. Vs do you know butter, but the idea that we live at a time when we can
pretty much call up anything that we ve ever seen that has ever been made on a device
during our pocket or just an hour in our homes is, is pretty remarkable
and I I do believe that nets very positively, but I also just feel like while, as a
create or now you know it used to be like well. How do I get through the limited number of gatekeepers who decide who gets to see? Why and now it's like? Okay, now lotta gatekeepers like that, has opened up quite
it, but now there is a gazillion thing. So how do I ask as a as it could
eight or like rise above the bed with a million other things that are unifying for people's attention to watch right right. It's a different set of challenges, jamming, there's so much. You say
there that I want to unpack, but the first thing that popped into my head is so my son is sixteen totally
music. He really loves Indy Rock, like really out their obscure indy rock stuff from the nineties. Like he's
deep into like built to spill and go in and sonic youth and love,
like really experimental, noise, rock and stuff. Like that, in just loves it s got, we ve got Spotify, so guess what he can listen to any song. That's ever been created in the history of the human race at a touch of a button, and I don't know what it was like. I'm a little older knew, but when I was sixteen, I had Colombia records and tapes. So you did you go away
I did Colombia House, records tapes, so you could bring forward. Did you ever pay for I'm still paying for it every week I send them three dollars.
Oh shit. Now I'm subscribed those jobs.
Zero, who are listening? What essentially, what you did it you? There was a clip out in the newspapers.
or you can order sixteen cassettes or records each one for a penny as long as you by three at the full price over the years, my god and of course it was a scam. You got this giant stack and you really exciting stack of cassettes records. But then you get sent this thing every week and you have to fill out the form and send it back in. Otherwise they would bill you for a new Cosette or whatever, but it was a great way for a nerd
suburban kid like meat. It like build a collection, and so I had my inner add my twenty seven Colombia House record in tape, albums that I would play over and over again, but for Walter like a touch of a button and anything he wants to listen to their plus. It's got algorithms and it's like. Oh you loved listening to the pixies. Then you're gonna love this band. In turn. I, u want new bands and stuff like that, so it is a very different world, but going back to something else you were talking like. That has been one of the most interesting. I will say one of the most interesting things about my life is the fact that the office went from a unappreciated show
of the early two, thousands that was popular for a while? But I know if you remember, like our last couple: Seasons specimen Steve left people like all the office socks and no one was really watching us in two thousand. Can you remember what years we're talking about? Like you know, two thousand thirteen fourteen
Anne and then a kind of went away and trickled away and then not just the resurgence Chris. But this whole thing where the office is a salve, it's a bomb for people's anxiety and they're, just watching it. In a like this Billy Irish interview that I did like she just watches the office over and over, she wakes up and starts watching it.
And its by her bad she's, even her bowl of cereal, it's in the stewed issues on the car on the way the studio the office is constantly on. It's like this comfort blanket of these characters that you know and love, and that is true
Lee. It's strange and pretty fuckin wonderful, well, yeah, because it, you know, are sort of
our old timer media model suggests like what you do is show you get to a certain number of episodes and it can go in this indication. But you know you still have to like you start to kind of catch. It
but the and then and then home video, but then you, but then that just takes us much physical space like how many season you know, like everyone, had a collection of video,
heads, but you you had to be a real serious collector to have liked for it.
Perhaps I will be with a serious.
Lecter like the person. I would do his house in the late nineties any open to this closet and it was wall to why.
Just like a library of content, but you really had to you had to hunt that down. It was a hunter gatherer type of of an undertone
In any event, like your call me out thing like how are you, how do you get expo
two new music. I don't know you had to go.
Of your way to try to find it and meet people gotta different record stores and by you know, but but for the opposite just there, and it is interesting to see these things have second lives or you know, like you, to link with court corpses, have having a second life you just it just constantly goes to show that you never know
can do something and forget about it, and then you know three years later. You're gonna call like this thing is the biggest thing in what we do that eight. What are you talking about what you know, so it must really really says,
about the quality of the work and the quality of the show that it can continue to resonate with people and also did it speaks to the idea that you know the gatekeepers were not always right and often not right. Salmon would pick and choose or cancel. Something else
of something you wanna birds like there's an audience out. Therefore, do we just needed the right technology in the right platform so that those audiences
community and find those things together, yeah Meda Netflix, doesn't share numbers but
number, a few years ago, some leaked fur like the number people that were watching the opposite. It was a fake
it was born. Jailing of it was like
hundreds of merely leukemia fucking,
mind, blogger, that the minutes watched were like in the billions and was like what now and in its funding. Could you talk about the gatekeepers, because the office was always underestimated by those gatekeepers like we barely made it onto the air, we barely hung on the air. They
barely promoted us they and then all of it. We just kept getting better numbers and then all of a sudden were anchoring Thursday night, but as soon as
numbers dipped than they moved us away. They didn't want it. You know we,
I had to leave the show, but they also wanted to cancel it and they they undersold this indication and they underpaid people and- and
even when they sold it to Netflix. They sold it for some really like essentially chump chump change when they
first, in that first sale alike, Harry
have all these offers. Episodes like five years for like ten million dollars, you're, not you set out good luck and it became than the thing the number one thing on Netflix for for so long. So in the end, I you know, I think they're figuring out now with peacock that its anchoring an entire network now and they ve kind of figures
to not underestimate it. Finally, in a what is this, like fifteen years, is
eighteen years since we started well again, yeah you know
but you just never know like you, you just don't you just don't know you don't know what people are going to gravitate toward, and you know it is a great show. But I think if someone asks you like, you think when this goes on Netflix, that you know eight, you know
million people to want to be like. That sounds like a big number. I mean if you like, but you just you just can't ever you just don't know
but you remember. The show that kept us on the air was
My name is Earl. Rights was a big big hit. You know and.
and that and we were on right after them and that we hung on because we were a good match for them? They were both single camera comedies and their little quirky and
now. No one really talks about. My name is rural, but it was huge for a while. They were two or three years. It was very. It was a top ten show, and also just the changing television
escape and trying to understand, like what is the traditional sit. Come look like in yonder, Netflix expansive experimenting with traditional sitcoms, and you know what that idea of you know that neither the original office is really part of a different era of television, and I think a shell like big Bang,
you like really just that was sort of Indiana Jones grabbing the hat under the wall. The wall. Clothes of you know that sort of traditional like high budget
you know Modicum Sidney mega hit sick com,
I mean I don't know what that is now what that looks like our how things are gonna, I think they're still trying to figure it out, but, as you know, as the streaming services have started to branch off these, you know mega corporations and supplemental to network like what does that mean or people gotta watch networks. Last people getting
streamers. More. Is it about library content like I don't want it. Isn't it kind of weird Chris that in the last ten years there have been so few
successful comedies and so few really good comedies am I hate to say I'm not gonna, be like MR snobby Guy, like they're, not as good as the office, but the really have been very few comedies in the last ten
is that really really made me laugh. I'm talk about new ones, right!
really liked Silicon Valley for a while, and I think I M certain party certain already
really funny. Motor family was huge, modern family, but that was kind of still in the office realm. I'm really talking about ones that started. You know. I think TED Lhasa owes its charming and funny, but its very few, it's hard for me and I think it's hard for others to get. I talk to people about this even non show business people's hard to find like, what's that,
who comedy that really gets. You excited well it's. Why is that? Why are we in an era where good comedy is not as prevalent anymore? I think it's just that were used to. I do believe it's there. I think it's just scattered to
wind it to the extent that what are you watch what you like unless ten years, what we do in the shadows, I think it's fucking two may have that's great. That has come. I love baskets Zack I tried to. I love baskets loved baskets of it. This is where all that comment
go like rain, makes a thesis and quickly walks it back realising euro lobbying that my wife and I actually don't watch a ton of comedy you're. Actually she was watching this she's been in like just she'd been in really,
Lately of watching, like just opium tech, future shows church or watching. This british show now called the feed, which is really interesting. David few listen a bunch of really great actors of this sort of disturbing in future, where art, where we have like, basically just the internet in our heads and we're all connected.
She I saw you at the sides of this sheets- are watching, go that way, but the shop upload that was really fun, they rubbia mail and it- and it's not- is that's good
annual. That's the creative! What are you ok? So there you go.
That was really funny to like that that that show had some incredible moments of like a well and so, but in general, so I just think that
the companies used to be very corralled around and infrastructure of Thursday, night Tuesday, night Sunday, night Friday night. So we we saw the ball in clusters were sown like other,
so, whereas there might not be like a, u dont must see
the lineup per se
There are a lot of these companies that are scattered to the four corners. You know like Atlanta,
studying show like all. This shows that your mentioning have like a grand total of like seventeen episodes. That's true!
So, yes, maybe we're having a little more british with local authorities, so I do think there there. I just think they're not and also its. What I think is sort of in a weird spot. Right now is the classic like live audience for care
sit. Come it's it's a strange. It used to be such a staple of television, and now I just one and again I might be speaking out of turn and might be totally ignorant about how shows are doing, but just in terms of like, like black, like big events, you know four camera sitcom,
Admittedly, I don't watch we'll that kind of stuff anymore anyway, why we just mostly watch for and a handful of companies and some weird suffice stuff, but but I, but I think the four camera sick come is in, is in need of,
some kind of refresh I dont know what it is, but I fear that a why there was a shift to the single camera. There was little more freedom in young. You know that that awaits directed can be.
Or so I hope to see, dont know make it more like a film, and I think young people like the single camera. I think they view the multi cam as your parents, d in old fashioned or some other at that. Like
I wish to give the other day I have fun. Would it be to do a multi cam for camera sit come, but but its science fiction I'll bet you could you do that? Could
set it in the year three thousand or something like that. But it's your absolute
I mean you never be like on a space station or something I don't you like,
action, future Rama, basically yeah yeah. Exactly I mean I don't owe and then, of course, in terms of companies
you know reckon Morty, we watch
a lot more in the animation. Lot. More is moved animation,
a lot of information and you know it, and so I think it's just and we love Justin's other show. A solar opposites is really Alan yourself. You, you know that there are there they're. Just on you know, they're. Just on Amazon, that's legs, Hulu
Peacock now parable plus, like you know, but also CBS Abc, you know. So it's just do it if we are really sort of chasing our content and
and really sort of reforming. So if you can for years
with acts, it's more segmented, so it's just like really thin slices, mostly, whereas
You know Thursday night NBC, nine p m. There were so few things to watch that you had thirty. Three percent of your eyeballs were on friends at nine p M or Seinfeld yeah like that, and now its little little eyeballs. Why
king. He know the that the two hundred seventy five thousand people that are watching baskets. You know it's like, especially with the streamers like the streamers, don't need you to they. Don't they don't need a ton of people to work?
each thing they their main goals that they need people to not unsubscribe. They need people to subscribe and then not unsubscribe job, and I guess statistically, if you don't unsubscribe for eighteen months, you are likely to never unsubscribe, because that monthly charge just becomes a part.
you're, wow financial out our kids do these days, I'm I'm subscribed to like seven or ten of these things, and I even Phil, although I'm I'm, I'm rich and I filled with weirdly guilty about it like. I feel bad for the kids. These I guess they just like hack each other's password
How does that work? I address the new sharing. You ve got your finger on the under the ice during its displacing the co acts. Cable, like a hang it up to joining a barber windows, get out to exert pressure.
you don't know. I think people just sort of pick and choose another, just gonna pick and choose what their basic things are,
You know, and then it is overall value. It's like we're going to not subscribe to Disney plus have all the fox stuff. They have all the marvel stuff. They have the star wars.
but the value there is overwhelming, like, of course, you know forgotten they, ninety nine or ten bucks a month. But I find it interesting, though, that you talked about
My name is rural, being a leading and the importance of your lead in, but now because I've been watching
your lead and is your own show separate you watch up as a three day you go watch episodes born in episode five. So it's not even that structure has changed so
I don't know I mean it it's it's. You know. I think that the days of having to cluster twenty million people to watch something art necessarily like now, it's a big deal.
You know a millionaire three million people watch out, that's crazy. You know, and even now
added up. It's not even why views anymore. It's like views plus three or seven day,
is how many people are watching over this. You know extended period of time. I just like podcast say work the same way as it's not even yeah. That's good, I suppose
Have a lot of people listen right away, but how many people are listening over over the months that follow? Will there are innocent? Mrs Matt, you know, I love that you ve got a pipe guessing, loving, eugenic scripted pod cast, but there are a billion pod gas,
so it's difficult for people to listen right away like right when something drops, and so I do think people ultimately get around to it, but
think there is a lot of room for plant gasperone, because I still don't think it's something that the majority of peace-
we'll do it's a lot of people do it. I still think we forget. There are people who are like. What's it now, where do I go for that commerce poster wouldn't get, but isn't that isn't that that's my aunt windy, whose
sixty eight years old? You know, I mean sheets you. How do I get to a pot? You ve got a new pod car. How do I listen to it? What does an app on your fault phone? That's called podcast its purple well
I've been getting apart? No rights distance is what it's called. You haven't. It's gonna grow more and more. You know cause all that of the gens ears and millennials. Listen to him all the time. It's a regular part of people's lives. So it's it's a future baby. While I love the idea scripted podcast, because I think it's a great inexpensive proof of concept, you know we had been. I've been involved with working order. Gotta help promote like a future Rama thing a few years back and the idea was like hey. What are you guys did a future Rama?
scripted pod cas, because then that takes all the budget out. You know it's like bright she's, gonna pay, and you know it's heartbreaking to me as someone who loves animation so much to say like what, if you take the innovation out of it, but even just a proof of concept or or even with even with Terry Carnation, your shit, your pockets, because its approved concept in its significantly less expensive too,
recorded in you know everyone in their house just recording avoid over as opposed to trying to pitch it as it live. Actually you know so yeah. You know the kind of thing work that works
Why couldn't you do Terry carnation? None you know, effects or aim sea or whatever take it over to a different medium. Yet and that's it that's why and that's part of the reason why we did it as a pod cast also
just from a sheer business for those who want to know more about inside showbiz there's this thing called IP, which is intellectual property. So if you create something in like a graphic novel or a podcast or some other media
then you own the intellectual property and then, if you sell it, if you let's say you, you draw and create a graphic novel, and then someone wants to make a movie out of that graphic novel. You own the underline rights, but if you just go bring a screen play to a to a studio they're going to own, you might get a smile
portion of it, but they are going on intellectual property underneath it. So that's what we also wanted to do with Terry Carnation was
you know own underlying ip and then we can do you know I was talking of. I have a book agents,
like we could do a Terry Carnation book or a tyrant, carnation Halloween special book or
a thing like that and we could do a movie producer friend of mine colony,
and what about a Turk or movie like we could do? Can little
maybe that would be fonder, were certainly you know, considering maybe a future and tv or
When that, but it is, it is it,
way easier to write, scripts and record them over zoom, which is what we did it to complete zoom podcast within even bring cast members into work.
putting studio ever unrecorded from home. Then it is Tipp to shoot something in lights.
Some have catering and crews and trailers and trucking in locations and all other stuff that goes into into shooting something. So
we learned, a ton. We learned about what works and what does not work and helped me kind of find the correct.
Along the way and it's been a fun wild ride, but I think it's also great for people who, as I do, think
I think it's really more. Our generation who was so used to be old media model of like you, have to wait for permission before you can do your craft. You know like you, have chasm as do annoying
you, you know, usually a marketing person made up, but but the idea that for free for younger creators are for anyone who, starting now, it's like you just gave such a beautiful piece of advice to dislike, make your thing and then its ip, and it's not just an idea. Your handing over to someone else. Also it's the alone.
Four concept lines. You might have a vision in your head and it might be very well thought out and you gonna put you in a room and data. If they don't see it or they can't quite or doesn't fit in with you know, whatever sort mandates they have in the ever shifting landscape of you know, network needs or company. No, wherever the platforms need, then it's not gonna go anywhere, but if you make it, it's a lot easier to go. This is why
this is and you're not me is this. What this is here is this audience. I can tell you who this audiences do you want to connect with this audience? If so, do this thing like it's all pretty much done for you, you just have to take it to the next level as starting from scratch and at an end, and we ve we're just starting out, but we ve got about a hundred thousand listens on each episode in plastic
in this really crowded market place, that's hard to do it's not a runaway hit. It's not, but its people are really digging it. You know ends and that as many people as are watching certain tv show whose I mean I might I feel like this number is correct.
from wrong. I apologise, but from what I understand if a pod caskets above, like fifty thousand downloads, your already in the top, like one per cent of pike, Esquire of your already getting, if you're already doing those kinds of no
as you know it. Actually I would argue that it is a runaway success. You know you can't compare it's like. You can't compared
like Rogan, for example, who is so like his numbers or have whole unbelievably high that that's just like. Well, that's that's its own thing, but
you're already your
already in the top topped up so it like. I don't even know what could happen in a month or two like this. You know what I'm gonna do cause here's. What I hear he's Tirana mildew, I'm gonna call you more often because you are so good for myself esteem.
I'm pulling the roles that idea no one of watch em and preparing the podcasting you're such a positive force of support,
in my life, and you ve already made me feel so much
I'm another argument for reasons number one. I love you and I adore you number. I
also you know, listen. I think we all struggle with those things is as artists and creative types and people who we don't really have normal markers for success in the car
of arts. How do we? How do you? Just? How do you know you know, and so it's easy to it's easy for us to get down on our selves or to beat ourselves up or to focus on cause it. You know it is largely a business of rejection and you're fighting to get your voice out there and you're fighting to sell things and get gets
done. So it's easy. It so easy to goddesses Dahmer God. I don't know it could have in this way, and so
I know that I do that, I'm! U dont, horribly critical of my work and myself in, and so when I see other people do it, I'm sort of
I don't do that don't do what I think you're better than this. You know. I don't want you to feel this way and you should it because I'm I'm I'm not just blowing smoke to save it
Those are really solid numbers in the, especially in the market
these were everyone especially treatment debit. Understandably so significant
People sort of broadcasters are like what else are we going to do so? It's you know it's the AIDS
will, the ten years ago, when we started our
Just eleven and a half years ago we were having to convince people. You are one of the first people to do it. You act, your episode was where we came
with, enjoy your burrito, that's right up and so back then we were having to convince people like well, it's
You know it's not a radio show, but it's sort of like you. We had to sell people to do it
now a lot of those people that we still do not have their own pocket. You know, so it's just its shifted, so it's gonna once applied castor.
you got a plank has to fit. You know, so I just don't. I
I want you to understand to yourself there's an incredible accomplishment, but it's it's a great cast. I you know. I know you and I I saw other guests voices event Nicole,
and Tom Linen affiliates was in. There are major guy
Marylin all so it's a you know it's a bit
a heavy hitter list of of comedy all stars or not surprised at its doing. Well, thanks. It's battled. It's been a lot of fun in its in it. It in it feels curiously old fashioned in away so
It feels like we're doing a Jack Benny Radio, our from nineteen twenty because work. This is scripted, so it some really cutting edge and really really really old fashioned like since the beginning of media in the United States. You know scripted in a sound effects of hops.
like some of that. The door- hello, oh hi, Terry, come on in hello- may have a glass of lemonade. Yes, you will
That's delicious now have a seat, please like that's as old fashioned as it gets, so it up been really fun to do that as well and train turn that on its head.
and you have to act with your voice like because you can rely on you appear even than even the budget times, because the Europe Thrilling adventure, our which jeopardy thrilling. I didn't I've heard of
all about it. I have it was just a masterful away was done, but even really
how do you live warnings about old readership had live audiences, so you could do like you could do sort of facial asides to the audience. But when you're doing just like a fuller scripted, you know you have to and you're not doing cartoon characters, not a fucking act. All that shit with your boy, you ve to convey everything just with your voice and nothing about
your physical presence, so that's a whole other. That is, that is a little bit of like you know, exercising with with the with weights on on your ankles yeah yeah.
I often wonder where all this you know like scripted, POD Catholic, are there going to be? Is there go either going to be like aggregate networks,
End up being like visual media in a way because there are so many pod cast now it's like we're. How do you sort threw out? Are you you know who aggregates those so people when they do kind of jump into? You know, listen deprived us like so they're, not just overwhelms the fuck. I have no right, you know like I just can't figure out where that's gonna go. Hey, it's all word of mouth. Isn't it I mean I really don't. Listen! The pod
Unless someone says you ve got to listen to this episode. You ve gotta, listen to this murder mystery or if you ve, gotta, listen to this thing, so I think it's really again. Curiously, old fashioned, you know, p
people listen to America's friends or live you gotta! Listen to it! These are our paper. Oh yeah! I mean, I guess it just depends on. You know: they're! Your right! Nothing is better than word of mouth. Word of mouth is a hundred
sent no matter how much social media in new do no matter how many emails you send out. You know when, when the content is connect with people and it excites them, they will share because
as fans. You know that when you hear something net funds
and to me is fresh to you or change out of it you think of caught. You want to share that with everyone. You know that also like those things, because you want them to experience a too so it is, you know nothing will really
place word about even honestly. I question how effective so for me,
marketing is anymore. Just from the standpoint of like you know, algorithm sort of crushed stuff down that is,
two gaps, Elsie, Promotional E Europe opening night and everyone knows there. You know-
Here's a celebrity in they're, going to offer three fun photos behind the scenes and then one photo. That's gonna be here's their new move, either new book or their new public guide her, or does it also accustomed to it? It's just like it raised its. It gets so noisy. So
I think it really. This goes back to before about how do we know
We know we're doing a good job and I think you just have to like what you're doing
and- and hopefully you accomplish what you set out to accomplish in there and that's about as far as it can go, and I- and I hope you feel that way- it's what you when you look at the breadth
your career, you know you got. I do restate the initial point that I may resent you dont. You ve made a lot of really cool, interesting fun movies.
I know I have really resonated with people. It's just that you know. What's that old, mystery sites, theatre of things like the right people will get this. You know the people that you resonate with your stuff, like really rhetoric the people who, with corpses
the people who were diehard corpses vans. They know everything about it. There super into it and that's that's! That's amazing. It's really fun to be a part of that yeah yeah! Well, I do I like. I said I I just I hope at the end.
Day that people will go like he did a little more than Dwight he'd just did a little more than today,
was amazing. Gonna be known for Dwight it'll, save white, the guy who played Dwight Fruit will be on his tombstone, but he did a couple other projects that were critical. You don't know about. That's all. You dont know that that's
be the case because your stars, when we're gonna remake Morkan Windy, none anonymous shoves about across by Chris or look at this point, I would write
I don't know what to do this right step on it. So I put into my mouth, I don't know, maybe
how about some of those scrambled eggs. You ve been talking about only those eggs,
So my children, member, exactly as the same in an egg and then and then, if you remember, spoil
learn he had been to get married in the last season. I think o their Lord. They consummate the marriage and mark, gets lays an egg that comes out of his name them how naval? Ok, I think rectum would have been the first choice, but they went with
able yeah, hey guys, just got the new Sorry ABC did not. Okay, the egg coming out of the rectum,
or for anal. Let's let your let's hear pitches
ok, Sir John, I'm not going to shoot out Jonathan winners, but I can then weeks we can't you the I gotta the ass, ok fuck around. I guess I don't know
another hole of India call his way out that right. We can't, I dont think you re through, I dont think they're gonna go for it, I'm sorry, I'm just around the corner like it's an easy, ok
It vomited with seeing their yeah yeah yeah yeah. Maybe too far, I guess I guess knave unable Naval. I will go with naval, let's go for it
I'm me yet Robin I'll make everybody all this work, a mini treaty, but the organs work. I think they were. They were like test tube like they didn't have Naples so
was a big deal when he lays the egg he has enabled the didn't have before, and the egg hatches and, of course, Jonathan Winter out. How does
many have sex. How does that work here?
running, penis that achieves orgasm and as ejaculate it might have been
the directors cut, but I dont think it was in the initial run when they were pitching
like ale, egg laying their alike. So every time you showing full, they are just like half pennant will some not not at all
So then I see what is more calves that is their hair there I mean what you know they never did for, even though it was the seventies, they never showed full frontal and working in these. So I don't
I'm, not, I M, actually, not in
version. Crests, we're gonna show
funded as much as we can. That's all. That's all thing about, like you know, remains up now. It's like yeah now, but it's good. You know like if we make
Christopher Noland, Morkan Windy and I feel like ripping gritty. I think more should have like a three foot. Penis would like barbs on the end it has
matched to him. He keeps it keeps it sets out of its own entity, its character, boys. He keep it.
In a test tube under his bed and a cry night. It's just like a great
We know little worms from this leather, yeah, yeah,
exactly, but I got it. So let me there's a
ways we can go with this rain, a lot of ways which you know it after this pod cast. I think that series, as you know, the updated gritty market.
Is an easy sal. I think that this point properly of Amelia
no one on the phone here again and again on the no doubt whatever you're doing
we're doing working, let's see what we got now. I dont have a my contact list. Jets
all. Let me look it up. Oh yeah, I don't know I mean I just wrote the name Crispin older, my contacts, but there's a phone number
I put your number there? I hope that's, ok and had only via I mean I still. We have the same first name me I'll answer to it in an end up in a pinch of a molecular become Nolan if the if your phone rings. It might be me,
The minute you don't mind you do a british accent. Oh I've orchids, you a pretty good british exe
the government or no devil more Australian was supposed to see british right rain slogan
with more community right. Well, that's right! So so marks a darker, more intense same thing, but darker more intense box Kok is lucky. They suffer from his fucking voting right he's got these arms
because he's all can Europe and it lies its own fucking egg suicide. You, like you, you cheese, but dislike, is like an egg factory rife in Islam as eggs. It's like a fucking advice. What it's like fuckin,
like chicken run, but in sea seventeen right am. I I'm just going to Billy idle now, there's like dancing
with parts of guys I used a tractor room and aid
and you know it all the eggs open up at the same time. Everyone is an organ. Oh my God
great, the mash up of alien
in the room and more convinced s and people doing bad british access on my desk.
Good. You know, but I like the idea that my contact information is in Christopher Noland Contact. That is a very in
sap type of its multi layered YAP one of these days. You
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someday you well in your picture. This idea, if you know if he doesn't already catch win this stellar idea that we this this incredible JANET
winter size egg, that we have laid on the spot. Ghastliness, someone someone who is a fan of this podcast. Please come up with the movie poster or the behind the scenes photos of Christopher Noland, Morkan Mandy
produced by rain Wilson increase for Hardwicke, Jane Wilson as Mark the dark edgy. I want to see some artwork around. This is what I want to see. I think, because there was the alien poster I think. Maybe I can hear you
Well, there was that one, but but also the alien poster that was just the the green. Oh, it's fucking, perfect the alien pulsar that just had to
egg and began written like a fisher at the bottom right. You make that, like an egg like an organ egg, yeah forty right there do. My first question is: do you have the rainbow suspenders with the pointing finger
coming out of the egg yeah they did earlier is the alien egg, with the mark rainbow.
suspenders on the egg? Wait a minute. This is about
and maybe there's even though a weird little face peak it out of the top like Nano nano. What what? What member this was? Just I'm doing the year the year,
no, but that Sir Spock, but he had a thing. He had a hand signed a YO, YO, Yo Yo. None of us here heeded the nano so than an anonymous.
Software rain shit. Where is it I feel, like? I have a picture of us that robs sense
Where you- and I it was a candidate- was like one of those photos,
When we were, he took all these pictures of us like they were our lives,
photos in the moving as its younger. You get behind the scenes things and we were like there's one where there's like one of us has an I'm with stupid short. I think, and I wonder, Arthur Mark suspenders in there
not a word. There might have been some suspenders and I think there were more suspenders. I earnestly feel that this is the kind of,
in that I know I know everything and I know we're just like throwing fun rifts out there, but I really
Do you believe that this could happen? The unlike this could make a cool thing because I thought you know. For the longest time I was trying to figure out. I just started interrupted
just saw. Something in your in your eye gives me in your eye. Are those at dollar signs throwing up gold coins
thinking contingent. I interrupted go ahead, but will you don't know? I I've always been fascinated by this story.
of greatest american hero Series with William CAT got
another store as our story behind it
We're going to make it, but just the story of the serious, because it so ripe to be remade caused. The premise of it is fucking amazing, which is just regular guy gas. A super suit loses the instructions, that's it so how this key and end the show only lasted a few seasons because around the third season they rightfully assumed like will, sooner or later he's gonna have to get better at using this suit. So when it became just like a regular superior short gutless interesting, but it was
really funny, and I know four years that has been boffin around like that script idea has been boffin right. I heard that what Europe really found
purchase anywhere, that was that was the only funny thing.
Bout, the show greatest american hero was the footage of him going, would forget robbing around and crashing awesome. Robert cop played Bill Maxwell, the grizzled FBI agent that he gets paired with lonely. Robert Gulp was just fucking great in that two Yannick yeah. He said Robert CUP of ice. By.
rubber compromise by just shown Maynard Credit a little bit up yet and yet so you know, I feel, like you not also, I think, is ready for refresh like an edgy refresh quantum leap, that
showed be so red. I loved Quantum led the west. I don't know how you do. I mean
a bachelor bienstock while we're so fuckin ass a minute. So I don't know how you re, do it, but it, but that concept to of just like
can only travel within own lifetime, and he just has to set things in history right needs. Abril is really. This is a brilliant scientists and there's a robot machine that gives them the probability. What he's like it's a fucking grow
yeah, it's a great piece of equals mere every week what fun acting exercise. I love
back Ella landing in a new and a new low cow and trials, and having that that the most fun part of every episode was the two minutes of bachelor figuring out
where he was and what was going on in who he was finding a mirror.
Lady yet again trying to answer in it
away. That's really, like general cause, like you know he Oliver
and he's in a new body- and someone comes in like how dare you and then he would be like
dare I know, he'd have to have that perfect response until it
figure out exactly what we really want. Improv gained by the way like Quantum Leap as an improved game or one person play SAM and you have to leave the unfair
there is a game, and you said no, that's that's a brilliant idea. This is an improvement and then three other,
people and they set the circumstances and the audience knows the circumstances and the other actors in other circumstances, but right coming in does not
like without next that the person who has been the hallway right now when they come in, they are pregnant with your child. However, they were have
in a fair with you and there actually, the father of this person and ready go and you ve got like too
it's to figure out who lawyer quantum leap into but the but the, but the thing that makes the Quantum Leap Improv Game is that someone has to play the owl character that comes in occasionally to try to like
direct them if they're going off course. You know right right right, yes out, that's, I think where it becomes and then especially like the person playing the sand is comes in and the full
leotard that he wore when he was in the weird particle accelerator, Mcgann cynicism,
rate. I dont know how to this isn't. There's gonna be fine for legal penalties. We start our production company together. I think you already have one I'll join their production company. Listen! Do you? Did you ever stay at the sudden place,
tell in Vancouver when you're shooting up there. Of course, yeah I mean able I've I've still. I have stayed yes absolutely of data, so this is for those listening, there's this one central hotel,
go Shootin, Vancouver pretty much. Everyone stays. I called a sudden place in its pretty nice hotel, but they have like apartment units and
like that, you never know when you're gonna run into the weirdest assortment of actors at the sudden place Vancouver. I went, and I think I was shooting an episode of I'm an update myself here, but we're talking about us of a thousand corpses which was from two thousand and one, and they were shooting episode of dark angel. Oh my god, the Jessica Alba Dark Angel with Jessica Albert, which also could use a reboot by the way that was very preshent. That was a post apocalyptic
of what do you call? It shows the european future you had to stop in future. Should I was the original does dopey in future tv show it was you know, but I ran into dean. Stockwell in the laundry room
all reindeers, thirty nine percent probability you gotta at exactly it and they are in fact
one would tie a sheet fun fact: Dean Stockwell played the original Edmund. In
GINO Niels Long days, journey into night, the movie from the nineteen fifties, and I had also played Edmonton Long days journey tonight, the classic american tragedy and there he was like my hero from both longest journeying tonight and Quantum Leap, doing his underwear in the sudden place laundromat, and that was ivy.
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On you know: you're, ok had a wet year now. Can you just adding when you're just adding fluids, yes to bid so that way off the that did not happen. It did not happen. It sudden place. It happened at the holiday inexpressible. North Hollywood by the specificity of vat is going to take good legs.
but civic little. You know just like a town ship and all the sudden it just brings had been for those Angelina that that the San Fernando Valley provides lots of those in a throw in receipt eyes. Good turn resigned as gray out here. They know arts, district and people would now you know it's fun really sets at you know it
talking about areas, studio city it out, you could throw it away.
Harry Boulevard and people would be puzzling, they'll get it yeah, I'm a book before we re
but I do want to show you one because we collect my wife and I collect movie props up things and businesslike robbed
yeah. This is an actual blaster from Galaxy Glass
oh god,
and tat. Stick to that. Guy was why wives, the my wife, it's very elastic. You
separate it? So it's like she has her things in your things. Can't you just have common ownership. No there
are things, but I like to point out what what are Lydia's things, because people are
wrong. We assume that, like all other states, but you wipe, which keep all this nerds up, it's like no like most of its hers action is awesome. I collect Alban, I click the Disney stuff and, like the comedy movie problem, Lydia collects like the horror
bluff ends. You know, I'm a back the future thing up here, but she's got gremlins over there and ends werewolf heads and stuff from army of darkness and the gouts request plasterers her that's fantastic. What do I do have one time clear, modelled Toro took me on a tour of his collection. Oh my gosh. How was it
I mean it's I mean they literally, like his house was a museum. Were people come to see, em like they literally did
make a museum show out of gear Modal Torres collection of mood. It's not even light.
Not even like. Oh, this is a very popular movie. Here's a prop from a popular movement. It was just the weirdest stuff
various academe, remember what it what it was like, but its astonishing have you ever get a chance. It is really have any galaxy cool stuff. He did not have galaxy question.
That I can so. I guess gear about has been put on notice to get some galaxy quest. Yeah you heard it here and of the have you ever seen
by the way, just as a total tangible for I let you go have ever seen
the the monster, unlike the monsters or Adams family house in await this- might be the others, the atom family house, their pictures on line of what the Adams family House look like in color like just like a collar photograph, so odd, because we think of it as black and white and the thing that triggered it for me, was you saying, oh, like robs collection because Rob has
from the original Adams family set writes in his collection. He is the original creature from the black lagoon and he also
as an original planet of the apes costume. Yes, why me
like he's got some arena rang a Tang yeah yeah and he was buying stuff
in the nineties, when things were which cheap he could my offer like three five hundred dollars for someone like yeah, because they're, like the passion for that kind of collecting, hadn't exploded yet and you weren't bidding against litter
Lee every! You know wealthy nerd in the universe. Only added a silicon valley, billionaires that want the Galaxy Quest guns
I saw that movie, given the millions out what the fuck. I can't you know it's crazy. You collect anything. I see a chest clock in your background, gonna chest clock now I have a bassoon. I have. I have some l peace. I don't normally collector. I'm really collector. You play the bassoon. I do like snow regularly play irregularly, but I invested in a very beautiful bassoon
in so doing, keep their value Chris. They keep their value. You kid other solo, Bassoon is sir, do you have to play with an unsuitable you could be? Could tear up solar bassoon? Are you kidding me yeah? Why are you not post
in bassoon videos. I thought I did one or two one or two: I dare you have done
I need to do more I'll. Do more. Thank you for the inspiration I'll do more. I was taking lessons for a while, but I have fallen off and I'm very I'm extremely mediocre, but I basically that anyone who can make a noise on one of those things is deserved a metal so because you have you have to like the air has to really push through. Quite
That's your problem! Great! Does it's all about the Red Chris? It's all about the reed, I'm gonna show you ways it's all about. Is this thing
You make a noise out of that thing. You ve got a soak. It I'm holding up a bassoon red tie, my zoom camera. I mean, I don't suppose I don't suppose.
Would be a bassoon ending to take us to the end of the plot. Cast
Oh no, my greatest James. Yes,
I would love to do that Chris, but I can't, unless I descended and later because I have to sit, you have to soak this red and get it really soft before you can make a noise on it. Otherwise it you can't
we make a catholic noise on it like zoo, otherwise it's like a puppy, far etc, but I do play the puppy fart
that's a lot of puppy for well. You got off this time, Rain Wilson.
the next time silk that Red Army
ready without soaked red I'll, be ready for you, so people should absolute
We when they are done with this broadcast, go listen to dark air with Terry Carnation, which is,
from audio boom, which is a great brain iceberg work without even before a really nice folks over another great there there I love I've loved working with them. They're so
yeah and there are many total fifteen allowed it's fantastic, yeah, so yeah
Well, I hope to see you in person someday. I feel like the in person thing. It's so
used to take for granted it. We might run into people out in the world and now it's just we just don't do it. No, no and you dont really run into people on zoom. Unfortunately
then what are you doing on Zyobite inexpressible? I know you should have zoom really let you now remember they had chap
God, I really thought chat. Roulette was gonna, be like a big thing, but I guess it was just like
how many people just took their dicks out on animals. Just a lot of it was a lot of alien, penises yeah there yeah yeah, I I've been double vaccinated,
Invite me over anytime I wanna get a tour of your collection. I would love to steer. We have,
been vaccinated and we we're we will still. We are happy to receive yesterday.
still socially responsible unsightly distance to fashion but Guide mother. I'd love to see you please, please anytime, I feel, like I mean do. I would not mention where you live in the past, but I feel like we dont Provident lived, Superfly moved even further out of delay. So you, yes, I'm not gonna, say the town, but I
I am well outside of LOS Angeles, but I'd recommend a lot. So I'm happy to know how to feel do you feel sort of like you know like did. Does it feel nice a sort of be removed from the buggy hustle and bustle? Look bad. We ve got trees. I have work. I have an orchard, that's good green
is that the color? Why don't we don't see you out of an alleged oil and green its yeah, that's nice, and do that? That's what I help
you know.
especially now, when I feel like we're starting to realize. I think
Out of actors are realising like, oh, I think I used to have to
no way to go to additions, but I can just submit them all. I can really don't have to you don't
living Ella. You don't have to live in the cesspool. A whole lot lives even Judy AIR, like what the fuck are. You know nothing issued, Semolina, Vancouver, Nashville or dryly. Exactly
had already were Chris. It's always
pleasure to see you you're a positive, beautiful human being, and you make the world a better place, and that is a rare thing to say about a human. I love your face. I miss you ends. I law. I want to see
you in person my file, I long for you as well all right,
be done. I Andy's incomplete.
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