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intimidate and Lady Gaga the Epp, and I I still am trying to understand lady Gaga ISM, I'm try. I really am I'm trying to be open minded about rights and privacy very easy either we so delight and her, because what she's damage is done. The shows such a showman rags are such an incredible I've elevator, which is what makes our best musical guests yeah sort of special, is ones who take advantage of the fact that there is life element, look at them with it deserves this after party, this giant after party in the Rockefeller Centre, which always feel bad about

what the one time I've gone because it I left at three o clock in the morning and it was still thumping and are secure and buildings where people live around here. The air I dont know like the weird thing is, I might do people in there they office buildings. I feel bad cause. You can just walk by and looked down at the party did so it's like a real velvet rope, night club, but like one that has like I'm glass wall. Yes, as you can see, the parties or not to an that's true. That's about that that's kind of cool. At the same time you and I love you- are on the right side of the theatre of all of the lady Gaga Quota DJ. I don't know she did your lady Gaga dj to end. You were, I would have been more excited. I think everyone works out if she'd son son, but I don't think that was the who took over that a thing and it became like you realize how good a dj as a cuban Advance party guy right, isn't, Highness slowed down, and Lady Gaga Deja is one of those things like acting teacher

it's like people just go like oh yeah I'll, do that's right. While there is a certain skill actually cause, it looks like you can do, put its rang, and especially now with the old days, weary on yourself, J, had to carry around turntables and creates a records, and now, at the very least, they were succeeding because they like given up the trunk of their car. Ladys dial exactly and you could really an end. They they only had access to the music that they brought, but there was even like when cargo is digging. Are there even like long gaps between like that? You felt like she was like stopping through the ipod to get the next time. I wasn't even like the transition software or like the next song cued up, and it wasn't anything that was surprising really like but she playing Argent like it. Wasn't it wasn't anything crazy? It was I gathered about what you'd think it s sort of generic daddy. It's funny like celebrity, did anything. I won celebrity poker ones like you and I was a child

and he will always like. You must be so good. A program like when celebrities in front of it, that is to become a means, war, I want you celebrity jeopardy and the ideas- and it was as if you're like, wound No just you know right. Roses are Let's see somebody was even like celebrity jeopardy. Bitumen timid do. I think it was crazy. Bragging, Patrick Duffy, great see that got. It looks like there's some intelligence agencies. The remark I beat Dave Navarro was the last. Oh, my god, We decided on talking the idea who is really fine day mirrors he's a nice guy for nice guy. I really like I like meaning people that you don't like the people to have. Image like oh, my god, he must be fine grazing Mason. This is a super nice guy, regular dude yeah. It's funny Say, like a poker you people have towns, I felt when I was playing, program. Meanwhile, he had a million tells then told me he was cooler than I would

everything I just get Logan I couldn't get any poker tells because I got scared summit. Oh fuck, what nothing I'm no good at this may I give way border whenever I'm not bad. You'd things when someone says I go having a poker night, I don't know, when it was such a, I would say, like a twenty four months nominal here in New York, where, like everybody, it s an owl plague, people we would have chips in our office, we play it there's a night and then it just one way. I never would have saw. I never would have seen the the poker craze coming if I'd been a television executive ran summits and we want to put professional poker players every like. Never what you're real pitch like I'd, never would have thought was a thing that you could watch and then what I love, how it was basically that invention that lipstick camera the chosen a car it's like bright, and obviously no one would watch poker. If you can see my cards, people had right and that someone you finally like what, if you put a tiny camera, there

like my crowd, the code? So it's not just looking at the the Filipino guy with the money, and the crazy right of shades and the weird cowboy snake hat you while you watch I gave you know a cars has very kindly ads. Then let us try to figure out why because I'm, but even watching I'm still I'll ease got too. I dont understand successful. Okay, so he's got to waive this, but then there is a cup while I ve never been able to watch it. I've never been able to watch, but it goes to change those people. Well and you think I mean as long as Europe has been a long time to, but every time you think like I really know what people want to watch and then stuff you love, gets cancelled and then stuff that you're, like that shit, Hugh phenomenon. The funny thing, though, about that she is like, I think, that and then any time like I accidently watch it you see here like I'm, not I'm not, I'm not a reality fan rarely view accident stumbling like watching the bachelor

Oh hi. This is incredibly riveting, like I've been out like this is well produced. I mean I know, high minded or anything but like you realize, like certain people, come over work and wanted just to escape its escapism done incredibly well right, so I do find that, like I mean they're dongle around there's plenty of awful thing from television, but I am always surprised at how a lot of things that I would categorizes like hard to watch. You go, oh, no, the why there aren't you be so what rights they just require very little work, exactly so its profits. I guess it's not. I mean I'd

I guess I want to show like arrests, development gets cancels, let go you because you have to pay attention to the joke earlier and you have to watch the through line and you have to see where. However, these military together and that requires spoke as you burned, calories like I read about them- was like those good ab work out. Yet you felt like proud yourself the way you do when you like finishing good one right, because you just you were so I mean it wasn't just as it was funny, but you were so appreciative of the craftsmanship but yeah. You have to have a different kind of mindset to international yeah. Just hurt my heart a little bit trying to explain to my dad why it was funny that Dave across one of the pain of self Blue right like I'm not gonna win this well, we you know, even here sometimes will seven commie writers of the inner room, arguing about why something. It's funny and there's that point where you go if we're arguing about it, this much it might not be living businesses, and you know somebody like war. How much like we're not gonna be able to stand out before this?

explain to the audience exactly what we're doing forms yam. Sometimes, if I'm, if I'm pitching a joke someone and they even take a second to be like I dont understand- I go you don't get it, then the majority of people watching who are nonetheless comedy sadly like other comedy right. Is that even if it just takes them,

second to kind of go. Wait words like that. It's the moment his gone round the moment is absolutely gone. Well, I remember like the lonely island guys, I'm ones being like most of our friends think this is great. I might give even one of your friend the super doesn't think it's great waited a huge problem because, like you are that eight incredibly narrow tranche yes of light, comedy vans yeah, but but fortunately you know I mean these comedy fans used to be separated geographically and also communication wise, but now, fortunately enough of them can clump together right with internet. That now we can have a lousy of. Is that I think about our show is that you can have all these different pieces that we have. I think different people can claim to be like. That was my favorite thing. This is my third thanks. I did not watch the. I didn't want to launch a dull re performance, mainly because some people said it was so you'd like I didn't see it. I dont know what it was but grant it was really on company. As a performer, I can't I can't watch uncomfortable performance as yet has it I'm very empathetic in that way

and I just go. I can just its gives me on a really are really the highlighting of the worthing the hardest thing to watch his yes people being. I can't watch, but I did watch the way that you guys dealt with idea and I thought that was really fun. They want me for us. I mean, first of all, you know I cannot stress enough how little as far as a rating staff or cast were concerned without music is going right, like we're, barely paying attention either because I've zero scrambling, put the comedy Porsche with that. Sad, like you know, and I we were shocked at the backlash towards her. Like again, we ve had all different kinds of performers on the show and for her to have like would seem like the most intense, All agree. Action was like hard to kind of rapid heads around. Like I mean she looked like a cereal and you know spooky in a way that seem like what she was aiming for, and I definitely do you know. I thought you might have seen

a little nervous, but that was only sorted going back and looking, but it seems weird that people so, Sir, if I don't know angry about nervousness. I suppose, sympathetic again. That's all fine, though, with a strange thing to me was like she wore the same outfit both times again that with the thing I like a human, alas, a time like sorted, certainly anyone that would be categorized as like a Davis stress, you have not taken the opportunity to give us two looks like her song. But again I you know it's a variety show, and I so love the Variety and I love that their people that are not for everyone and and I we were so fascinated and delighted by any time, people you know either love or some. I think it's a turn of the recording level just in case something slaves might actually be reversing, but

I think what happens is just the way things by letter control, a handful of people on twitter, say something right and then just that the collection of that people are enough to inspire alike like Covington posters, someone. I pick it up and go. Oh this was this the thing bread and then they make it a thing. Everyone else jumps on board and I go yeah. I guess that's the thing they also weighing on another submits a phenomenon. Where absolutely- and I look- I have nothing but empathy for the content. Generators of this world re one myself area, so I can see how he became a thing again like you know whether its fair, not a thing became interesting to talk about, and people are title their opinions, and I am always happy to look with when twitter explodes with anything on our show, positive or negative least reflect

the people are watching the it didn't seem to hurt her career and anyway leg ass. She saw the bunch items, although I went to. I didn't really hurt a verbal farming initiate a song called video game right You have Google earth friends, anyone The thing is, I gotta give exaggerate. Oh there's another one. We owe this isn't just a sketch Ottawa activity itself in a beautiful woman like your computer blew up what's happening, although I didn't I deliver them. Get them where the legs of the song and adjust it just looks like someone had a rhyming dictionary like old times of car. That runs a bar viagra, whatever its fine like its nature, music doesn't have to be for me and she might be totally nice person, but I did I looked at her twitter profile and it just here's, here's my theory and it's totally may not be right on, but so her twitter profile says every

I want. I have money, notoriety and Riviere, as I even think I found God in the flashbulbs of your pretty cameras. So when I first saw that I was like a comma Beata radio, and then I had this weird sort of epiphany like wait, a minute she's like the comedian from watchman you she is. She is a she's, perfect, she's, a slick us, A reflection of the true nature of contemporary society like this is what every run. This is what America really wants. I just want to be famous and I seek. In paparazzi- and I just want money and fame- and I feel like that's that makes sense to me. Well, it's funny because I mean I. I will admit that I am not spend a lot of time.

And breakdown monitor all right, but I will say that there was to be expected to have a well know. I'm telling you about to give you a solid. Have our mostly has been busy? It's not like. I find out where the thought I you know if she is a construction which I feel are people blame before as well like a lot of people are construction. Oh and if you do, if you say you're comedian in you, do a construction people say you're a genius right, but if you do it and you know pop culture or you know if you do in singing or movies like Oleson there's this real veto is this person a phoney, but then the other thing is like you know if what he says there in or twitter profile by finally got like that see, it seems like That would be her being honest and then the anger is the people, don't like what is being honest about so that people say they want honesty right, at least unless they're honesty is different than your honesty and right. You're upset about that too. It's a possible situation and I will say, like there's plenty of people in popular music.

That have high opinions of themselves. Well, yeah I mean like, but where you gonna have to go out there like it is a pretty. Just arrogant thing like what I have to say is important enough. I mean, even as a luminous committee, asked the lily, take it up in front of a room full of strangers. May I care one look at me right, there's a bunch of things I want to point out. Somehow it had to do. It is pretty of access. Yeah you're right, though its light again rockstar is don't have that comedians move like walking out before their first sign, be. I know you're wonder where I buy this out. You know like they know that they have to own it more than comedians. Candy don't get too like deconstructed right and great, like by the way you re like people, of course, in the end, culture. And everything into. They eventually get the vote whether or not somebody's gonna have a long way short period. So if you just have a little patience like it alone, bear out,

guns arose was right. I finally get you back to me and I quote about guns. I did this is my point I'll pay. You never got the roses. I wanna go back and eighty army saying like as guns and roses so deftly pointed out avenue breaking the heck immigrants labels back in the street, but. I think I think the other thing that people got so upset about is that she will relatively. No, no writer. Whatever book was playing it s an hour and just got famous grain. Almost I think to most people, seemingly overnight rang and people are jealous and distrustful of very lightweight would focus in this new person. You trying to tell me I, like you system, so I think, there's a little bit. That bad an early understand

and I mean, like I've, knock it out. You know, I think, were united, rightly about the same age it up, so we can create I'm sure, if we sat down, we can come a list of like ten people I feel that we have had those feelings about like a better, very human reaction, obey orders- and I don't deny people that the right to have that. But you know again: we also live in a culture where people are. You know every happens, faster than had ever done before, yeah and which is good, which means every member one forgets things fast. What made absolutely that's a dynamic like you know, if anybody's worried about anyone's meteorite meteoric rise, they just have to sit back and remember that, like the fall is just as its fast, if not faster and like. If anything I did, I do feel like we should. I mean, try to be a little kinder about it all, but I get it. I get that people think it should all be like only the hard working people succeed, but it does start likes signing a little bit like you know. I think we all sound a little bit like

bogies. When we go in the old days. No one was a flash in the pan, which also natural area, like the reason that you, the reason it's easy to say, like oh can't name anyone who is very rarely get because they were flash in the pan. Remember them forever. It is the talk to people in the union as a college route attacked me when the music party like yet there were hacks in boats are today. It's just those people in view. Just disappeared right. That's what you don't know who was writing like the happy right? You know me and also you know the other. The other side of the coin is throughout history. There have been talented people that haven't gotten their time in the sun right. That has happened, because this is not. This is not the most fair to profession, it's not in an almost seems like there's a certain amount of, especially today like a certain amount of like marketing savvy.

Something that you need to possess. That is more than just you know, it's more than just know that guy's, the funniest comic in the room at doesn't always right mean any that he's gonna pop absolutely and look there's a reason that marketing has become a lucrative business because it's obviously an effective tool, and I get that I mean again like we did everything all our frustration. That comes down to the fact that we are constantly reminded how we are assuming that we fall for things that were ashamed of later, and we all want to be in place that we're, like you, know the great thing about him: Today we rewarded the basque people and we did let any assholes sound. I thought you did and amazing job at the press. The corresponding. Thank you, oh my god. I can't I mean

just watching that, even though I didn't even I don't know you, I still like, I had nervous real income accounting in the former President Laurent learned all these bit and you don't get the fun cut away the audience. Just like Trump just sit just sit on a. I was very one of the things that I was very happy about. Is you don't really see the audience, particularly well from where Oh you don't look. I mean we can but they're. So many it's like a sea of people, yet it's not even like. If you performed it later, word show where there's like rows of people, Graham massive tables and some people's backs and shoulders and weird angle, so it all kind of like blends together again like I'd done enough, things where you learned not to try to look for particular not like try to find expressions right. Oh it's where they would cut the audience and economically because it's in a hotel, like the end like multi, use Read it S. Just like every There is eleven years old and it just sort of works like so they dressed up buds,

higher went home and they have come in for entertainment, but you didn't it using job, and the new you wrote, I think, was one of my favorite yolks of last year, which was he said, see spent was those like one unpaid, electric bill away from being a radio station slick. Fucking amazing was re I had you know we. I got lucky that we have three weeks off from us and all before it and I brought in in a bunch of really funny guys I trusted, You know guys, like John Lady NEO Brennan, Alex Bays like Shoemaker, who were guys that you know I just trusted so much and we just sat down and kind of put together that twenty minutes, but that was a really one of the most fun days, was just that sense of like couldn't you look back through the history of the correspondence dinners like pretty much c span has never come away. Unscathed like throughout the years, though, is that we have to come up with.

Like five sees banjos, there's never been told before it's the most bizarre. It's the most bizarre. I think performance environment because essentially you're sort of encouraged to roast people right, but at the same time Everyone's assholes are really tight about. Does that that over the guy? You know it's not it's not like watching the road like a rose on companies everyone's like fuck, everyone right, that's really taking shots of people that still make people uncover like either he's sitting right there president or the it was funny. You know there was a there's a guy. I'm a cop guys right for to be found. Eric legend Jeremy Bronson in Germany, Bronson used to work in DC and he was really good at saying. Like you, don't like it really the press likes when you make jokes about them, Could they, like the you know, I think they want, whereas a you know you can make fun of politicians. We do that here. You now week in week, out by the fund was, I being specifically,

the news organisations and but it is really delicate thing of like your constantly find goodwill with a joke that you're going to spend later bike ride and, of course the trickiest thing. Is you Robert Smigel, who wrote on Konan's when coming into the back of the late 90s said like this crazy thing is: if you lose the president, you lose the room, because they're all leg is interesting, as you may be to watch their watching. The president watch, you don't you go that's what I would be doing and fortune for me. No opposite, you, you do the correspondence dinner you answer when called but Obama, President Obama's pretty good sense of humour. So he did. He did seem like a good audience. Member like he did, and I I did feel like. He understood the nature of what it was supposed to be absolutely and he's a you know. His act was great as well as he was. I mean I am. I remember my biggest fear being thinking that I had to follow the President run within like doing great

but it was tat. He was a good sport and you know we hand jokes about him. I mean, I think the jib, my favorite Jochen, and it was saying that he would the candidate he would be real trouble against, would be Obama two thousand right right. He would kill him an election. But that was a joke that he kind of went along with them. That was probably the one we have. Probably it had the most honesty mind it because again, like the candidate that has arisen area is always more likeable again. Who exactly do? Did you have to clear any of the jokes with anyone reading I didn't and it's pretty great cuz you don't actually get hired by the White House to get hired by the correspondents association. Then so you know there's a real freedom of the press to it and so they never asked for it. In fact, C Span wanted my script. I think so that they could find and cut to people in the audience, but I We want that because I didn't want my actively judged on the reactions of the people. I was telling the jokes about right what worked,

and the reason the only reason they sort of hand the camera tromp is one, I think you know he's probably most fascinating person in the room, but also a bonnet told a lot of trouble joke, so they had as they had the Trump camera ready to go. But I never expected that part of it to be such a big part of it. Afterwards, as I walked on stage, I got a bunch attacks on people be am I try to stay away from Donald Trump seems pretty for your charge. Charged down I've said maybe the batteries or allow such a weird zoo, weird, tired, culture were like like a crazy billion air- is a public figure in that way, like whatever what happened to the shut in billionaires will create a robber baron absolutely like I mean they're. Still, you know by the way, those shut in billionaires are still doing. Great are doing good. I just I don't know I just know. Nor could I shouted millionaire than they there actually getting stepped on, but he eats.

Crazy thing to me is: is that he expects that he will be taken seriously like that expectation is, is beyond the most of all the goddamn audacious things he does. That is the most every day you look in the mirror and goes up go out absolutely looking like this. Do you follow me on Twitter no, let's fascinating. Due to he, I would say. Fifty percent of its treaty cannot get in hundreds Roy Character. They all have liked the continuing like he's. So he won't even like he will use twitter, but he will not play by twitters rule, I'm a bad irony, follower alike. I will follow us and one for a couple days like I'm, just gonna be great. I'm like now. It's true, I think, don't even like. I don't think I don't follow any pop culture, people ironically, but I do follow political people at some point. I found twitter good because, like I do follow like opposite opinion, new sources, for me, that's smart area because, like sometimes you do want to hear like me, no again

There are excellent writers who have a completely different opinion than I it's better. I find them better informed. If I please read their case, then I hear somebody scream at ANA News Programme right and then I get on top of this point of fire was heartened to hear. The edge View Pierre Lady Lauren, before we were talking about Trump, and I saw him at the Trump Soho yet, which is it? hotel and then sort of accidentally coined the term trump went to mean, like echoes where doctrine of the Us China pinpoint like It was nice, but why it seemed to me right and what I realized was a friend of mine was staying there. No one's allotment, I realize was there's something about the nature of trump and everything that he's involved with that. We look at everything and it's just screaming to tell you how much money at costs right as opposed to just like being nicer, like all we had at the crystal chandelier, that's expensive. The other thing is it can't look as nice, as he told you,

like he is the opposite of me and I think the optimal comedians like the is the immediate have no comedian is like like before I show you a sketch, if I was showing your sketch, I wouldn't you like. This is the best sketch of ever written rights. There's a joke every age. You're laugh so hard up. Here is the sketch. I look forward to your feedback, but let me remind you, like you, would never do they be like hey here's, this thing, I'm not sure like it so counter. He so counter to a comedians outlook with is like our now yeah he's he's made from stuff that we were no and by the way that confidence like what I wouldn't give for it like, but I dont know I think there is a certain amount of there is a certain amount of ignoring to emphasise our lack of awareness. Random bluebell lies like what do they mean that confidence caught like we are saying? If you have the confidence that you would be giving All your self doubt of Romania's Donald Trump is the matrix here,

I say that this? Yet he is the matrix, you might be the major he is. Actually he is factual information, while, like you and I gotta, do sit in silence to the next time, could you give us our about every time you get deja vu. That means there is a glitch in Donald Trump here. How long did you start doing stand up I started doing improv comedy I did that include. I owe you yeah, but you ok, I was even so. I went to Northwestern, I did it there and that I did and proud of only Baker. Io now in Chicago, and then I went out to Amsterdam work for this theatre. Company Kaboom Chicago Oak, really gap which we should cargo guys who started like a second city theatre in Amsterdam. The style theater was, it would, did you get a lot of you're, a dutch folks. Are we the resumes about fifty percent item and I went out there April. Ninety seven, and that was a timer, was probably about sixty percent tourists. Forty percent Dutch, by the time I laughed I would say, to flipped,

it just as a place for me, there's not a lotta like there's more now, but there is not. There wasn't a huge like dutch comedy scene and Amsterdam, particularly as a place that is pretty embraces amount culture me mean it's like American. I mean if you go to a movie theater in Amsterdam, at all american movies. That's funny collecting people assume, like. Oh, you know, em, we left England in came straight to America from an early now actually with the HOLLAND like like silk. So much of what we have is actually kind of dutch culture is now that I've, always I wanted to go just to see. If I go, there go my road where the great thing about like living in the West villages, like you, you sort of how you like oh these streets, is a definite dutch people write these streets out because I get so like a dutch neighbour streets lined with panic, cocaine. Dutch, but you know that answer. No, no! No! No, because I'm I'm foolish enough to think. Like a man, I don't I don't alive. I've reason this in my head, like why don't smoke pie? Why should I go to Amsterdam,

Well, because there's nice architecture and other ray, I mean it's a great european city and I kind of like got smoking pop out of my system and I was very like a real vaguely going. There was where I realize: that's not what I look at it, but it's like I go back over time, so beautiful I go it's not that far from Europe was like six hours, five areas diamond. I say my nose like six now, but it is like it's because it set immediately. You realise, when you want to go to Europe like if you want to do that, though I quick trapped with conflict, Paris, London or Amsterdam are the ones that there's a lot of flights and you know who directed Did you see? How did you find that performing in another culture in another country? How do you feel like that sort of influence are commonly like, as are pretty certain things you can't get away like american tricks. He can't get away with onstage were performing for being open

I do find it like. You know if you are a european prosecutor in Chicago and you're, surrounded by France and you all sort of absorb and share the same pop culture, and you talk about the same kind of shows and so does the audience, and there is, you know you can. I will buy without delay. I think pop culture. References are not in by the hard in themselves like bad move, like, I think, they're good move, but they can become a crutch or that there is a you know, you can be onstage and you can certainly drop. You know, references- and you know, as already get by it- was nice to be in a place where you sorted became aware by the way there were other performers who would like come out to Amsterdam and just learned the dutch pop culture Susan, like rise trade out crutches yeah, but it was fun like you know. You were gone state a night and there would be you now. You gotta be a group guys from England and there would be a business euro group from

Amsterdam and there would be some american tourists and some New Zealand tourism, and there were just like it was a fun wait, like alike, are, what's coming universally funding and disable sketch improv, it was both. It was most kind like escutcheon pro forma, that's cool. There was great, I dont did because he wanted you certainly send up. Then I saw a well I left there and then with a girl. I men over there, this girl, Joe Benjamin, we started doing a two percent show back in Chicago bows, like a sketch ambrosia that Gummy hired a man. You know sort of labour second or third year. We were China book that show colleges and it just turned out colleges didn't want it's just a hard thing, so we go into person, sketching prefer the kind of like they have signed up right, and I had done. I done one stand up show at the Edinburgh, french Festival and two thousand or so I'd done a little Are there, and I'm just kind of like have a chance to open prison?

by college chosen and started like emulating, I knew I'd been stage a lot I felt like. I could write pretty well, so I just tried to start getting up and then I am, but I kind of built stand up around two in college as a first and then just sort of kind of recently started. Don't take it adjusts places you first of all where the fuck do you find time to write set up? Is it just? Does the stuff bleed out of things that don't make it an update on site- and I, like you, you know like because you have to generate so much. On ten here often you generate things that don't send to a sketch format. They don't send to it. We can update joke, but you go. Oh, I think you know, and I think that I can talk about an stage. Explain it. It's like full we're talking about like sometimes when you are talking to people like know the reason this sketch it's funny and you go over the problems. You can't be out there with that sketch explaining it well and stand up. You basically are explained right, so you can take as much as little time as you want and the only thing you never stand up. Isn't it

far more personal endeavour, then scan training or doing weakened update, like you know, that's where you can get up and start to talk about the life you're living in the feelings you're having a mere personal round things when you it? How much of your act overlooked when people come see? You too, they expected weekend update it's weird. You realize how people don't know what to expect, because there's no like I haven't on a special right. I think they expect politics which there is, and you know what it is. You don't realize and most of the joke telling people now before us now, I would say large. Eighty percent of it is, and why does correspondence dinner and bread to some small degree stuff like the airspace which have done a couple times, but either. The nice thing is, I do feel like people are at least cured

and if you can sort of winning over the first time and it fell the higher enter there s yeah, I mean it's it's. I think you definitely like those like Seinfeld sailor. You you, you kind of get that you get the fame card for like five minutes and then Beata like I well. I was I very body because it was you know. I was really nice of you colleges, which is of course, a different kind of show like cause. Kids are pretty enthusiastic in their happy to see people they know from today. Without so I think that five minutes is like ten minutes in college. I will show you twice: Jerry's I felt was actually here. We did something we don't really on the show, and I was talking to him about how's. That wasn't sure. If I should start doing, ticketed shows yet, and he points on the ideas. Like here's the thing the audience will be people that will buy taken for South Myers. There will be a they will be taking a step to tell you there, at least on the lot right, because he was exotic, randomly selected group of people that

Half don't know who you are rising like that, and so you and that's what I found is obviously there's a toned. All that I feel like I do and weakened update. That is the same as the same guide is no different kinds of dogs and yet well, and they also I mean you know again, people coming to see you on purpose is such a different thing than you going up on a Wednesday night like the convicts idlers, the alien oak as they they they come wanting to. Like you write it. So it's. I think it is a pretty it's a pretty fun situation and in its acts. When you, you know when you go back to just like, if you do a club on someone else's show, of course,

then you still have to go to that most of the first five minutes of like now, it's ok to like me here today. I gotta when you would have already say I mean that's, that's the thing, because I dont really do that. Hardly all and that's the thing. Let me know guys here that you know Congo, Sir John Lady. You still go and get up and do comedy cylinder it out here, and I think we had that's the part that you just go like. I don't know how you not even like gun and I use the term For that matter, I have like the constitution as they show Emmy. We do our best to eat your soul. That shows that, in fact, we have any left to bring down the colony seller yeah. What's up, I mean you, I feel like you when you pretty quickly can jump. You know like you what use it started the shown. What a one alarm and bio Six, I think you were like at least CO had writer yeah, it was like I mean it was a couple of things. I had a couple things work in my favour, one as I was not a good customer in order to place them locally, but

It was not. I mean like what I started here. Like I kind of would have predicted in college. I would have been a writer more than a performer. That was what I was studying college and I got here is a cast member and I like to write stuff for other people. So was a thing that people can notice about me and Yemen: Tina was getting ready to move on. I was really be, though I was thrilled. Lorn had seen that, maybe that was it. I could take over what was the first sketch that you wrote for the show that made it on Amy, Poland. I my fourth show I am not just talking about this recently and we did. It gets a little sleuths with John. When we were like an encyclopedia brown and his sister, and but we are solvent like a really gruesome sex crime was. It was like the last gets to the night Plato really great and it was just like we laugh about it now we tried it like seven more times- had never aired, but like that night, that moment, like we were talking about

sleaze merchandise like in our head. We were like the moon, Zita movie, poster looked like weighs about the great I mean that's the thing about this show is like you were constantly the with the worst part about having a great show it s. An out is when you realize how little connection has to next week right. You know that, like some Cashman will go out and they'll just kill it, we'll just kill it, and then I was, and is the next week's table reed and like their stuff. Just as like you know, it's like there were constantly like athletes have lost a step and you feel like it's over and the next week. You find it again. That's that must be. That must be a horrendous. The emotional set of checks and balances. Where you get you can I come in feeling like me. I just in this thing with what happened on no gonna comedy it's awful immunity off apart, and I recently heard nor Mcdonald's and is an interview which, as I always so right is link, is one of the last.

This is where you can like for real Bonn. Like can really had asked. It was evident that ok, but you are like you realize that, like this is an audience that has a certain expectations. You know again, this is an honest review. Come to see us alive, like you had incredibly high expectations were just back your lawyer. I they'll do bees theatre of the absurd. Rather, like you know, like you just using your head, like filled the perfect, showing, I hope, no one governed as an element that I hope they do, the gloomy bro. You have that's terrific, oh my god, you think he's gonna trip over the thing one year. Do you think this is right? You know like they're, just like you just sometimes I, like you, know, there's no, there's. No, warm up communion between acts say like: let's keep it going over and you can barely you can barely you don't really have Opportunity to workshop your material, except like you know what I had a couple run: throughs gobbler Andrews. I mean with great

about dress rehearsal is dress, rehearsal, feels exactly shall we treat it like that? We do at eight o clock, we have a completely different audience in they are. They are the part of the show that we cannot do without and where the real here as it address audience because they saved America for some sort of some real does what there must be as them. I'm sure you must have a pocketful of sketches where you have you like. Oh my god, this is this. That's cannot fail and you put up for the dress audience. No, it would have been well. We did a. I did a thing, my first year with Horatio just another thing that, as I crash I city, which was comic book torture right and we did it the first time we did it with Ian Mcmullen and he played a guy who, like I think, like worked at a panda express or somethin who did the joke was that he did a great Gand off impression rise, you know course, then that he killed and was really fun over like all this is going to be a single do and then we did it with Pearson danced, and it was just like five minutes of silence and afterwards hooray.

He has said that he he almost stood up half way through and was. I would just like to apologize here, but the driver of the edge of my thinking. I worry that were obviously when I can do this and televisions, and I thank you for your feedback, but, like you do there are those I mean that I rarely, but a century like times your like mad at the audience like again, not just a human rights and, of course our life may not seem this funding, but there are more often than not you're there you're doing it in your like what was wrong with me that I ever thought a group of strangers would enjoy watching this. Sometimes the audience in your head is not you can't trust it. I've been, I feel for me. I don't know it might be the Rio out. If you like, a lot of times things at the audience in my head. Thanks. It's hilarious in just doesn't. Do funny thing to you like has sometimes in that's, where Lorn is really great at seeing things that macro level, which is sometimes you just like forget to leave out some connective tissue like Kommeni, can I really scientific that way and that, if it's just like oh the sheet,

That was the way she said that first line. It's too loud it seems going to play and if she just like lovers or volume, cuts in half and it sometimes that women and men with learn make the slightest of adjustment. It's not like. You rose up its leaves and goes. We need twenty more jokes read, but is often just that. I never thought of it that that actually that's really interesting approach, rather than like real right cut, cut cut like none at all, just a just as yet more like you know, when all their needs is a top right. You know like do a unique put a bumper for a network just do like if you open it with like your wanting the lifetime network right. That will give the audience the information that you forgot. They didn't have that right, because in your hair I mean every everything's completely conceptualizing your head. You thought of rice Of course it makes sense to you and it's just leave it just just kind of taking the audience by the handle

then just leading them at Sunday is by the way. Sometimes you do something I did something we had our day last week in dress that Lorn turn to our space is arguing about they produce. And very kindly said, burn the tapes. What was I was trying to defend juice, bunch and ok, but I was defending her with it with a pipe and british accident I don't like immediately lost, I'm so yeah, I feel like we can update goodbye you know if I were look at s an ailing magazine, I think every communion of generation of course, ass now was the crowning like that, of course, with poverty. Then that's what I want to do, but I think I got older. Like I don't know, the environment seems horrifying to me, Lady Anne, just it's it's just super darwinian but like, but

Let me, therefore, that doesn't work cut that we voted at that. I am sorry anonymous. Show the speaker this. It's true, I mean the thing is like. I do believe that this is a one part of the books that I don't find. A true is like. I don't find it back stabbing Raza culture at all, but without said like it's also not back Patty right, because we just don't have time during like EDA like no one's out to get you except for you know, darwinian part of it, which is its non there's no time to like help. Anyone catch no one waits for you to catch up with that satellite Lord is patient with people. I think more understands that this is not a job. You learn your first day here right. I'm very few people can come in and are fully formed a comedy voice and he tries very hard to protect people who are now. I mean that's a thing that I think people you know he when you're new on the show more kind of only wants you out there killing and he be perfectly happy if you had it out. If you had one law

in a show and and nailed it, he wants people at home. The girl like they should use that person were right. They want them to say that before we actually do, I think it for us all You know. If anyone were to say: ok, you can be unless amount. I would you be, I think, that's the weakened uptake job only to live far the best, because it's like you get to be yourself, you don't have to be, doctors and make a scene work in, and you know the other thing is like it's. It's completely come criminalize from each joke to the next. It's the end up east of ours. I like look. There are certain sketches where you know thirty seconds in its go, no like if it's

east on performance, if it's based on a voice of lemon and by the way the ones are, those that work have the highest upside of anything in the short run, but the ones I don't like, there's no like built in joke halfway through and right, it's gonna save it, whereas we cannot days like you know: it's fifteen jugs. If people don't go for one, it doesn't necessarily bleed into the next time. You feel the audience resetting with you as each graphically sets an that's. What's the best part about it. For me, there definitely people, there's Emily people in the cast, though, that you no matter how is seen as going but you'd like with full Fred or with christian wigs, just like you still just love, em they're, so fucking Did he almost more than any in the hills, of the show oil because I feel like there are certainly cast where there's a like other way. The audience like. I look, we do in this area, but there so

invested character wise and I just I will grant a gag nigh could never. I will not break it aside, Hindu. That is what I mean like I've. Always there are times where, like someone will pigeon idea for me- and I have to remind them that, like I am nothing without the punchline joke, there's no like there's no way. I can like keep a piece of texture alive. The way someone like Fred or christened, do I mean freds? Aren't we did? I think we Emily cut it because we had to, but there was a time when he was doing the Dalai Lama dress for ourselves, that we cannot they guessed. It was just bombing so hard, but he is really funny thing where he would giggle like the Dalai Lama to camp doing it. I, like real growers and then he I just as the Dalai Lama? He did that thing, which is not on car draining reed. I cook this fingers and cholera. You just watching that. Are the monitor as like this is. This is a special moment. Have you have you had the moments where you want to just break and beer?

ok, you know I've never handy had awakened up day. Will there are like you know every now, and then we can together dress rehearsal, like the jokes, that bomb so hard that I have to like address the on it, because it is that funny, the other for anything but a there's really know where to go in a joke bombs, like other continents, little box, you know, there's no that's the thing about like in stand up. You can save a bomb Jovan when it like. We conducted you dislike trapped in a box, you know it's maybe, but I think just because the freedom that you have is that the next Joe could ill absolute. When you just say you have to move on to it like a they want, they don't want you to spend a lot of time. Like talking about that one by yeah I mean I, you know I just sort of learned very quickly on the road like you know the audience kind of wants to follow you like their beard, thereby coming to see perform their asking you to lead them in a way right down the sort of how many journey, and so you know something doesn't go over well, if you're not linger on it, there not they'll forget right. You know in your mind

disorder move on and you don't seem that red bothered by than they're not gonna, be there bothered by. But it's so hard because you so gonna be like don't think I don't know that that didn't go well was weird. I mean like you can, of course, a confidence game will only last so long right. You know, like the best con man, of course, have to show some sort of results, so I mean I think of it as a good comedian, you can have a jug bomb here and there, but obviously the end of the day like more, has to work. You have on merit and doesn't how do you kind of balance the you know the sort of the head writer job, but then also, but your own personal little space, shut up within the shell. Like we, I kind of don't even like flip over to update. Until Friday, we have three writers who specifically right up there, jokes on our space, peach, alt and just Conrad, and so therefore working on jobs. While we can then acted as the room at five o clock on Friday will satisfy our reading through, and it's about like six hundred jokes,

oh, my god and then of those six hundred I mark about a hundred and then am bays and Sky Wednesday in his one of our producers on up day, they'll kind of cut those hundred down to thirty do great job like whenever I come in on Saturday morning to see the thirty whereat. It's like the thirty. I wanted it to be read, but then they then I have to choose twenty two gotta go to battle with. How much do you feel like you? What's the balance between, like you know, just wanting to make the audience laugh, but then actually kind of wanting to you know get across some social commentary or Co. That's the fruit of what we would call the first act of weekend update, which is before the first gas comes out, the first like sort of feature, is when we try to tell you know our political jokes and again they are. You know their harder than this last act that we get up day, where research to talk-

crazy stories and arbitrary movie, but that's really important ass, like we don't feel good. If all the jokes are about animals, who did he look things rapid in the internet would be fine if that were the case that the internet would, but again you know this is popular culture. It is popular culture. Banning any. That also is constantly remind you how you now intelligent parts of it is as well. I showed will do want social commentary like the great jokes are the ones that you'd have do both make people laugh really hard and have a thing that certain resonates with them. Yes, I was just watching clip of John Stuart and they they had all these religious figures together, and they were talking about how there's a war on Christianity Eric or something and yeah. If I thought, though, they try, they almost compared to like Nazi door, they, basically Nazi Germany and jobs, are like

absolutely look wit, Colbert and still do. I think, proves that, like people are, there's always gonna be a people that are smart enough to enjoy the highest level. Communism and then what are you did? It is your sensibility like. Do you like the balance between, like you know, super smart outcome in right afterwards, you like, we You know what to do. I would say we worry less about the like. However, I mean we want em all to work along really well like for us like the biggest thing is like I like their certain jokes. I dont want to have right before I turn to the other camera to like it aghast, illiteracy, like that's for me, like others ones alike. Sometimes I no joke! That's gonna killed to be the next one like so that I can tell that have a moment where I get. Just like player that camera they gonna wanna like move away in order to look away from them after giving rise, but now you probably have set

rarely have this sort of ingrained sense of leg of how the flow works. Actually I mean I've been waiting a long time and I think we and we will work with the same people for a long time. So I think we all kind of without spending too much time talking about what we want, trying to do everything now with each other. Once the best piece of advice I got was actually Foma Talkativeness Miller, israeli and shall he gave me which I've done ever since he, I would say you know, said moisten here tonight, stop stories. I would turn my camera and they were caught on the turn and he said let them caught first. And then turn it like make the audience waveform. I want to ensure that such an awesome things, which you would never just one area now like getting again there, so few people have done this job. This

if a job in a lot of people have done things that are similar to like nothing beats giving advice from a person who started Yak zero? There's a tiny club? Absolutely? What do you want to do like if you ultimately, obviously prior citizen of forever? Now? So? What is it that you, you know? Do you wanna be a talk? Show us do you wanna, just click show run. Some I hope that our options, my biggest fear, is that what for I do will seem or in comparative is because this job is not. There is good reason, bad ways, but never born right, and yes, so I don't know, I haven't quite put too much thought into it. The nice thing now show business is like the best laid plans. So you know it some degree. I just wanna keep. Options, open, sea something comes out, the makes sense. Did you sell the did you say I'm stems. Even we did years.

But now it's now it might be humbly who Alcoa Vertical I also want to promote way here. You have shows coming Brian. I do. I have a bunch of shows next week, but I think most college of undue like says sexual weakness. We wanted this airing of spray go up and a couple weeks. Ok, so I note that momentum will, though, shows we're great thanks, You did a great job, I mean it was where they flew out for all six shows, but I really wanted to make sure that unity can touch strong there, a lot of good local references. There is already a couple to crack of rural jobs and everything they were different. Any people. Are we sure that was asked you advise me young writers, knowing? Why do I do to gain a better idea? Has high me like I? The thing I did that word for me was I'd. Try to get up on stage whenever I am acting that kind of us by saying, like they have two. You have to make it easier for people to find you right because

they're all too busy to look really hard. So you know the thing is like even here and as an hour, we look for writers are cast members a lot of times. It's someone, we trust who is somewhere. We weren't was like hey, you have to look at x, you now. Later. We found because Magnum allow his arm in a show and stuff like that that began. If you won't, do it showed you if you can do improv for stone people in Amsterdam, then you have a conference, took it up and perform in front of the presidency that I guess if we could take away anything, suffer this hour. No, but the boy literally the more the more shows you can put ankle weights on your cell absolutely letter. I did a lot of corporate there. There are theatre, get alot of corporate, yes in HOLLAND, and that was, I will say, like you can't bomb like you can bomb with. Like fifty six foot, two guys from Eindhoven, unlike wire rim, glasses and like

it's almost not bombing, though because there it's, though those situations herb in almost, but it feels I dont like there's no time where give tell a joke in a room full of people to stare at you dead face. It doesn't feel it Bob. I guess it's true, I'm sure they enjoyed it internally. I don't think so because the great thing about the duchess, if their classically honest sure and they well, I remember guys after shows been like men- did not care for it that thank you, for your input. Sir well, thank you. So much for being here said Myers I was also makes frequent. Oh my god. This is amazing and special musical score. Slated you personally, but a gray. We have learned that those rate we endeavour mad, but God thank you so much for him in the green room and everyone else is really. Does it go up. Eggs were beg you very soon now leaving no, Dot com enjoy your router

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