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at last fall in New Orleans, then we ve been editing and got efficient. Hamper can and now comes the outputs, it's all been kind of compressed and so excited ischemia do April the process that you particularly enjoy or don't enjoy this just the the inception the shooting to the editing and then all the press. Stuff gets a lot of different things to have to get your brain set for yeah. I find the binding the hardest part and shooting is problematic. I think, as Europe argued actors you're on location and stressful, but enjoy editing, because it's just me, Added earn movies are still take shape, hopefully here Adam and then the promo part is probably the weariness, because talking about yourself on time gets strange if Europe another you ve done this over here.

When you're shooting something better. Remember that story, because I want to be on a couch or an interview in someone's gonna go what's a crazy thing that happens now in this, too, is a blind man ass. If, for an anecdote, you, like, I can't think, is now a blur done. Making yeah I've been worse in such a yeah, so focuses to get everything done, I'm reddish, music. A short shoot to weaken. We had a lot to do what was the shooting schedule we shot and twenty next day and my closest pretty intense and dumb, but luckily it all in one location of two places. It is like a really beautiful play. I thought I'd like to see a great yeah, yeah yeah, that's what I like about. It is that it was just so focused income claustrophobic and it just about these characters and aunt em. In that light it out to place in one setting, yet I had no idea that there was a nineteen seventy one beguiled early and aiming was it did you.

Find this moving go I want to do. I want to do that ordered some and bring it to you. How did you arrive at it yeah and then serve a classic for people movies, but I had never seen it. I don't know anything about it and on an Mai production designer who worked on this from my friend said Oliver, she saw them I think you need to see this movie. I think you need to make it version ever has already talking about the stand, seek organ of his art movie and and so I watch it not doing anything about it and I was so surprised by the turn it to Van Ryan. What happens I didn't expect you? I just stay to my mind and I thought it was so weird and in such a great promise about you know, women in southern women and they taken an enemy soldier in another sexual repression in the heat of the south and avoids found the south to be very exotic and so different than I grew up and so

Then I started thinking about it and I found the book that was based on which is out of plant and started thinking about how to adapt. I try to forget about the movie interest. Sat. How did I adapter story? I just love the story right I mean you you. I know you would. I know virgins recitals a book, but it never was any of you ever do anything else that was adapted from another thing yet, but I didn t internet. It was around until your phaser book right on, but I've done both original an adaptation and Andrea at adapting, above because it gives you something award from your. Have that panic of the black blank paying right in right, you're, just gonna forget. There is apparently a survey that near the drastic, without any said, the worst direction you can give an engineer is still everyone like they go. I need to re, I need something in it, something that hold yeah death. My think ITALY's owes the moment at which I am about to approach.

When you finish something I'd now. What do I do? I can do anything. You know right. It's it's nice to have some kind of framework and in adopting a book, an enjoyable goods like a puzzle How do you turn this book into a movie at which I enjoy right? It? Do you have sort of like a list in the back of your head of liquor? Now I want to do that, like you noticed something been holding onto for like decades yeah. I don't have one story that intervention I was gonna think about when I was starting to work on this, something it will try to go back to that. But I don't know, I don't have a voice her woody on as a drawer of tons of ideas I dont have a drawer his brain just never shut off. Just like he mused needs to silence the voices when others right This'Ll just deal with you later so now that you're done with this. You guess this process, your press, private couple weeks movie comes out June. Twenty third, I guess and then duty

a break. Yes, future. Ok, good yeah, I'm looking for the summer vacation with my kids out two daughters and so Carter and are they? Are they back like teenagers, seven until seven agenda, other just about to yes get in a place where you don't they nor is it the last few you want to hang out with me. I want you to be present for the enjoyment The mother still hang out with me. So I'm close and they don't go. What is this the little one, the seven year, the tenor of that kind of past? he has already, and I tell you know, people actually think that guy I work in fashion. I know about passion and she's like really like, not one here, my employer is it a straight. I mean I really get such a strange time to my we weren't Americans August, but but events You know, kids around the corner. Your weird time to be raising kids, theirs

Not a lot of, I feel like positive, misery in the world and there is a lot of craziness and it just the devices, and I mean how can you make him connect yeah wit votes on the verge of their phones, yet the refrain that yeah I'll never speak to them again after open sets its full scary species enough for my generation. They didn't have that growing up, it's how you keep them in the real world and it is its areas where abstract for every patients probably where, but this seems especially since I was now because I guess what I was a kid. You know we just did. The video game revolution was just starting, but now I'm images time and its sole compelling. If your apparent busy. I keep him occupied finance not connecting. Anything now and in the idea of Youtube Stars is really confusing to me that they think it's great to be famous for no reason I it's hard for me. Are you

Georgia sicken anywhere you fostering early fostering art, oh but think I'll kids are direct and try and tell stories preparing. Hopefully I can still in any can hold onto that. Can but there's something fillip to something, particularly in a couple of genes. I love your cousin by the way I know Jason. Yes, he's the man he's just the sweetest symbols, wonderful guy, he is but there's something there's something in your family's genes like we'll artistic, talented people. I know I guess yeah. It is crazy that everyone is there, some new creative people, my family sets This is in tune somewhere, but it's even just mean it. It seems like there's a specific type of creativity, taper, creativity, it's like I'm gonna, go just forge this path of I'm gonna do you know these are things that I enjoy doing it. I'm gonna forges path and it doesn't really feel like anyone. I don't know follows any particular rule.

Better put forth by the entertainment industry? Oh yeah, I never amply thought about it, but I guess it's not. You know examples, my dads and an example of disquiet, doing thanks. Maybe by saying that we will learn something from her younger color outsider, but you went to art school right. I did. I went to colored Fer a little bit and then art centre, which I didn't. I didn't finish school, but I did my time I want to be in order. So, when you dinner, I met Giusto paint. No, no. I tried to recently in and was discouraged by to try. I guess that's really sing to hear you say that, because for me, one of that when I watch one of movies intake by always feels like this, why beautiful portrait o cool, like it, not even just visually but story wise to it, just sort of feels like Portrait interesting and I feel like somebody, but in the end, you're sort of left with interpreting what you think.

It meant to you when you were looking at it. Ok, because I want to have the impression and not I dont think I hear the message I want our audience. I want them to experience and then take away what they do, whatever it is personal to them, so that instead of a thought about. Maybe there's the connection from my wanting to be attained. Do feeling you feel at the audience is always if they go out who is about this and they go and someone else goes no attacks about this. You feel, like that words very personal, and that thorough everyone's right yet surpass when people talk about it and have different ideas and and that's the that's the utmost most, you can hope for yeah did you always was directing something you always wanted to do or you you just fell into it after article yeah. Now I did I never thought about. I've spent my whole life on my dad said, sir. I was watching him work any always taught to my brother night about indirectly, as if you know he was teaching I'm so we're just never occurred to me, or maybe I witnessed resisting going

the business and yet so the nights for my twenties trying different things in and it was hard to figure out. I couldn't find that one thing that was satisfying all my different interests until I made a short film just you know, can it for fun and then this is bringing all the things I love with music and sugar feel things. I can pick just want at sure annoying that I had to pick one thing and another, and then I read on the virgin suicides- and I heard there making movies that I hope they don't mess it up. I love that book, and so I decided to it just as an experiment to try to adapt our may on and see how you'd rather screenplay from book and and then it got so into it that I wrote the script and I thought now thoroughly

attached to it and say I tracked and the producers- and I said, would you please look at my script and and somehow they, let me direct the movie and I didn't over it. Wasn't planning on being a director was really that book that made me just out of wine to protect that book, and I was so clear about how it had to be made as a movie that I say that I had some kind of drive to make it was there any part of you. It was if I do this than theirs on beer people, gonna, they're, gonna, compare and its weirder worry about that. I just trying to think about I'm just so focused on. I once how that story- and I had had to get that you will you get my dismay, that nags at you- and I just had to listen to that, but I try not to be too self conscious in and then a yard. I just I just thought I had to do it. I mean it worked out for an I dont. Really, why don't we adopted

that hurt, albeit was overcome very, very quickly, nobody's always it did. There was always in our decides that part of that by, but I felt Minos compelled to make my work, and so, when you were finished with that cause. If there was a banana, maybe four years was lost, translation o three. I think it was around. Then I made Businesses at a ninety nine Anzio couple years later, it usually takes me a couple years and between function as a right. The square think about one interesting and then right described in German and by the time we get the financing together in and was lost in translation. I spent a year turn attract humble Murray. Factor- and I mean you look- was only a year because they hear that guy like he is mysterious, these mysterious he might- he may just appear like if you're out of your having a bargain but you might just appear at it. You don't know Window Murray is going to appear yeah, it's

is on its never boring ITALY. Success was any choice exciting to hear about a bill, Murray spotting. Who was that it was that we had a saint Vincent. I think they are directed Saint Peter S, sister usable, messages on this infamous voicemail than Yonder Murray has any we're just nag him. Her back and then one day his phone just randomly was like ham landing and allay- and you know, can you pick me up? Let's talk about it, yeah yeah, my my story is not. The similar I left masters of eight hundred number for ages, and luckily my friend Mr Claeys the writer who worked with him and he thought he looked at. I showed him some of what I was writing for lost in translation. He thought It was interesting that I saw him that way and he was really helpful, but you can look at tat, build that he should meet me in. I wonder you just called me the blue measured said I heard voices combine their at a restaurant New York and I never forget going to say

He was wearing Sir a seersucker, see of course, of course, and then you guys immediately headed off behave as he was really nice. Man I was smitten full Murray and then Bristol never committed to fill Vivian and until I wonder Japan, that even if it is he gonna show up and do this, and I think he said I am- I am inclined to do it and then that was said and they showed up while service carry the day the moments before he shut up? So what have you learned about working with actors like that? How do you you know, especially with someone like, though Murray Hoop, I'm sure, is a very nice guy, but probably is very specific waved Emily every act of jurists, specific way of doing things, some people pry what more direction some people probably wanted to do their own thing. So how do you you? You do have to imagine being the personality judgment business as well. I think you and so much vicious casting. You know that the catholic person they're gonna whatever

we see in them connects to the characters. I think that's that's the biggest part. Casting and then just being clear what the in oh, what the story is what you're come of it as an encouraging the side that you are looking for an unkind of changing the subject. First, action that isn't so much what you're doing a gas but the I just felt they bring so much. Two minutes thunder work together to overcome certain editing room to gush reader. I mean do: do you feel There are certain things that, if you're not getting out of an actor like, do you have tricks real and maybe you know other certain little fun director things that you can do to treat people in getting what you want out of him. I've had it. I've had always had a good bunch, pretty pretty much like there. They haven't had too much trouble. I'm trying to think I was ass. My doubt about that, because he he comes from theater and say

he does a lot of likes of her souls and theatre games and for saying like what you do when someone's not if they're not being natural acting and he is different little. After remember his nose remembrance and if someone is an if you dont, like other doing just asked he's just talk about their morning and try to get them to be themselves and forget about acting so there's something that I haven't had a network to such great altruism and they ve understood what I, looking forward. Will I mean I imagine I guess I'm act since you're, probably pretty clear up top. Are you very methodical about how everything is mapped out? Do you know like do you have like the UK everything story This is exactly what it you don't, oh, no, not at all. I feel I can. I can never Strasbourg Remit is interesting. What will it do by? I am. I dont know time on the sat with the actors. We know whether

who's gonna go until you see the than blocking access to the actors, have opinions about what feels right to ban, and so so try to be flexible on and figured out as we go, it's more intuitive gotcha and then do you feel like you learn a new thing each time, you get through the go away, I thought I cannot. I knew everything, but now I know now is no. I always feel like when I start movie that it's a challenge in its and said doing it for the first time and then there's always things that I learn. I think, if I know specifically what it is, but I always look. I'm learning something in and with this maybe the beguiled. I am they dream in a gene drive never done before us. I felt like that's interesting alarm like how to do a movie and ensure that still connected to how I do things in my style yeah and you feeling. So you definitely do feel like you when you, if you look at all your because when I love your movie, they go. Those are often say I can tell there from the same person, even though they all other look. The same thing to do so is that it's just a natural.

Function of just you doing it or do you feel like there's a conscious decision? I go. I feel like any too heavily this way. No, I think it is. Comes from myself and my personality into its wages, the things that I am into and said. I guess it comes across, and I thought that was moves that island filmmakers that I like you can see that I love you the person who made it. No, that's a sunset movie incentive to something that anyone could make that it comes from their point of view. So I think that hope that comes across Europe and so on. Any. Even further moves are different that they all come from. My point of view, I guess her: why were ever really? I hope this is not a stupid question. Now question and going back to what we said earlier. You might go sure if you think that, maybe that's what it is you feel there is a recurring.

Theme of isolation with your characters. Even Emmy, like you know, lost in translation, keep seems emotionally isolating, is also isolated in Japan in the beguiled, their isolated in the southern virgin suicide. This family things can isolate at the same time like is there they're a thread? No you're right. There is, but I dont know why didn't I set out to be. I wanna do stories about isolation, but I love that about the storing them together, so these women so cut off, and the woman wartime cut off from the rest of the world are like us, but yeah. I don't know. I don't know why. I am interested in stories about that. I guess- I think, when you're, when I'm writing, I'm in a more interesting worded. Because you're alone, writing will have to face or suffer whatever it is. It's not my arm. You no other side, that's more. We know connected with her things, so maybe that asked me do that. But I don't know- and I like stories about it, then you know I didn't mean people finding that so that's a more and respected

thing, a gasping, don't kill isolated. Surprise. When I told a good I mean is that you know that they are these. Women are still Bisbee stuck, went out again much away, so people don't feel like anything spoken but centrally the isolated during this war and soldiers be brief, I think about it would like work who are highly I'll, get Air together. Are they all from related or not related are friends, Some of the kids, like its southern go school so they were. The girls were sent there to go to school in the war broke out and there is a can't go home right back there and on- and I loved it's it's during that time the soundness of the war where they were like raised her to be hostesses, an parties and be lovely with four gentleman and I'll about that and now sudden the parties?

there's no men around and aunt em and they're kind of stepping up stuck to the extent where they'll say they let go. The next soldiers are gonna, be by four months, probably so there are literally just then a plantation yeah and everyone, an yonder, I laughed at an end and there they have to learn how to survive on their own and they were raised to do that. So they're really totally cut off from the world, and I imagine it was eight for these women during the worn at things interesting to think yet when the left behind during the war time right because then embraced by progressively Where did they go? What happens where do they go from reality in this area? there's nothing to be illusory. Guile yeah, like they used to like me out. That's it at that. One anywhere. I refer is smacked, I'm in the middle of the civil war.

A couple years, a couple years into yards. Are they still have distorted the solar runway between now and the end of the war, given? Not that it wasn't that long? So what is your writing? I don't know it can I get this really is a sort of left, an eminent people simply anything of it. It's funny thing about what happens when, but it was very that Latin specially the last shot which I will give away, but it does that also like a really beautiful portrait, weirdest looking at their if you just even just saw that as a painting the fuck happened. What's gonna happen is like an amateur minimal, but of a portrait. The way there waiting in the end, the gay, but there is more to it. Don't ask people. Definitely there is I mean it's. There is West, India, you don't want to get better when people get angry its boy. What is now an almost anything else on our planet might think it's fun to see it without ninety minutes.

And this man is upon. So what's your writing. But what is your writing process when you say you are you are you? Are you like a ninety five her or? Is it just a well it's right until eight can't write it. Oh yeah, I'm kind of I used to em before having kids overstep. Lay in right at night, which was my favorite and now I've had to learn to add wick up in the morning little kit of kids. I can't do that anymore. So I just kind of fitted in whenever a cannon have an office in during the day off the autonomy the plan. But it's not to structured. Do you? allow your brain to wander and get distracted, or do you have tricks for forcing yourself to just squeeze it out when you do it's hard to think, I think it's? U have to build in time for procrastinating putter time, so we are not doing anything. That's when you get ideas and his heart like when you have mother structured, leviathan, either babysitter for two hours. We have to begin to sit and like look through put two books or whenever

So how is for I find it. I find it hard it's hard to be disciplined about writing by another somehow got through yet, but you must have times where you just feeling. Ok, I just started and cans. My brain is just frozen yeah, I don't know my tricks. Are I guess it's good just go. Do something else, but remember talking my friend, timber Jenkins is also director and writer global security at the same time, and she had got a program called freedoms that cuts off your internet. What on your computer second rate, so they don't get destroy They were going online and emails and staff, so that was good to know about this site distraction. This just all distraction. I now- and you know it's funny if they think that is, I think, that's what people want. They want to be distracted because no one really wants to deal with stuff. Somebody was so we're just all distractions, I know, but I'm worried about with like yet everyone, let him a wind of telling my kids a good time to space outlook. When do you just space as this one?

Ideas not rethink about things, and I am worried that our culture doesn't have enough to spacing out quiet time. A hundred percent agree We it's too enticing to be too just have something distract united, you all the time, even in line to get a coffee, they ever son ass, ever the elevator to the elevator. For what yeah thirty two seconds, like your phones out around, I know, I'm gonna try to cut the collar, Are you super internet here you, as over media at all, do now long open that can have a very worried that you would get sucked into it or just the taxi city of it wouldn't sort of bleeding to your site to simply such a big commitment you I just want you wanna, go there with them, too

are you able to you now with due reviews? Are you able to do tat criticism well or do you know who tat? Now I try not to it's, because you can meet a hundred or hear hundred things and then her one. I mean you know. I'm and then that's anything stays your minds. I try to look at it to it. What do you think that is because people are by nature just in that they're always doing the wrong thing? I don't ask me why our brain or expanded on meat ass an expert on earth I feel like. Maybe it has something to do with you know ever been throughout evolution. You know we're evolve towards me till it being a tribe. And then the second it feels like the tribe is not accepting. You were ok. My genes are gonna die. I guess I was going on this endless hasn't survival and was instrument. My genes are gonna. Die is ultimately the biggest forget he had built into us.

Do you feel like doing is like a movie that, like a big scope, type of up, you know, I don't like super movie, but like an action, will be our horror movie or any kind of crazy other genre that you would want to try. One look, I'm always wondering Also, but I never say never open the. No. I haven't thought about like one I'd love to attack on you, VE, never, there's, not a horror movie inside you somewhere sweetened and now I come here five, but I dont have any ideas and none shall know what it was released. Just take it whatever bluebeard anything It must be like in Spain beguiled space there on an asteroid. Its opening another would know how to do. You don't worry, watch when you're home do movies television yeah I'd like when you get like it again to tv show, but I haven't lately. I watched

No, I don't know. I watch movies and I watched her but was a while ago, like the old what are you anyway, serious by behind on things. But there is a kids must leave it kind of eat up the time that you would be sitting around bearing out in front of the television I don't know just and so busy finishing this movie and then yeah kid thing. My kids and I dont know what am I what I've been doing, but since busy I am are like trying to catch up on Emil's, but the end of my real life day right now I love it's fun. To get set into a show or on near watch movies year is the business new recommendations, and they are now well let's see what are we watching now, it's really good. Well, we want a lot of. We watch a lot of horror and we want a lot of true crime and so,

It gets trust our going to sally about my escapism programme. Baskets is great. I heard that ok, I love him, so I need to watch the governor show it's such a beautiful show, it's beautiful shot, it's incredibly acted, Louie Everson places mom and he is Dunning, on which everyone is so good on the show this yet an on paper. The premises really hokey Emmy like its he's a clown, and he wants to be taken seriously as a cloudy went to clans, Anthony's, terrible and there's just dislike buster. Layer of sadness to it, but it's so funny and so real somehow, oh yeah, I heard it was gonna, let him sectors I repeat, I remain absolutely. I hope you like it to be ever thought about television,

like you know, I'm gonna, do it six eight episode arc. I like the idea: circular many serious idea. Let me solemnity firelight, they take us as a kid like eighties. Glamorous many serious was is was very long I love. I love, that's hardly something really glamorous that I don't know. I haven't thought of one, but it's it's definitely, I think is exciting at it. You can have an idea that, be five hours long or it can be twenty minutes later. There's an outlet for that which really wasn't when I started making thumbs yeah. Well, I think the interesting part of that there was some of this stuff is limited, you watch you go had is gonna just been a movie with demand, really need episodes argue that there is sometimes you'll get later? Not sitting you well you just get to like episode through.

For five other, really tyrannising really turn a stretch. This that's too debut wounded by the time you get into the debate you ever are yours, pretty confident like I've got enough. What I needed are you ever stress, like all we're, gonna get there in the nest. Shots life. Have you you'll? Luckily, my editor isn't intentions. She's kind while we're filming, so she can tell us upper missing something very serious tells a cat like we ve got enough for that, so so so not as worried or missing a shot by. Always it's always relief that it cuts together. How were exert? It's always a pleasant surprise when it comes together, but I just part of the two is just trusting that you know what you're doing at this point the end and having my editor checking it every day in telling us we are working with the team that really proud of my cinematograph. Her flipper sort is great. You know, helped a lot to make sure we had all the coverage we need. It

We give talks or anything. Do you ever like just refer to inspire young people, particularly young women, who might not think o a film is. I can direct a moving? Oh yeah, I'm not I'm not. I don't see me of the good public speaker, but I am happy to do. Question answered answer questions and I went down why you and talk to a class, and we had three young woman from students on site or watching, and so on and happy there to try to be helpful to a young. This feeling the business is getting any better about encouraging artist. You know I haven't changed a lot since when I started in many languages discouraging by, but just feels like it's in the air, local autonomy. Monterrey now saying that wonder, woman was such a big. Right, and I think I think it's starting to be now

that there is a audience fer! You no female, driven subject matter, so that's incorporating yet, but I also I mean I can have a little bit of lake. Wait. Bro movie fatigue, recital k these two duties, gonna beat the shit out of each other and now the buildings down in the process Oh yeah yeah the fatigue about that answer either. So many of those are the whole superhero thing has been knelt drawn out again. It's not really my things. I know people into that too. Like theirs in theirs. I think you could do it. Wouldn't you to have it your you, your point of view on it would be different. Another meandering existential use? Exactly I mean honestly think about it. Look we ve already seen like some less of removing them so much about what they can do. Physically, Imagine if you know

let's just say all of a sudden, you had some sort of crazy that would fuck with your head, looking a lot of psychological issues to press as there would be a lot of stuff, the demon fun? I really think, there's dining there's some believe we're getting to the point where we seen so many supernumeraries but really kind of exploring. And as you have, this affair has heard the greater ready I feel the desired Galvin access can be that that would be in its near his eye. He can be the superhero whose downing his new found powers, I mean you know were- were briefing and it's silly, but at the same time I'm telling you really think there's something something really will there. If you directed exact, was in it. I can Listen, it's not! You know, I think this religious coming into a genre that has such an expected path and then being able to,

now go well. Here's an a completely alternative point of view. We are no, I think, it's fun, they did playing with genre Is there a mean when you look at everything you ve done it? Is there a specific John were that you feel like all? This is more what I'm suited to know its redeem. My thing, it was thought on this movie to get into like a southern gothic. Emily embraced. The genre aspect of girls and nightgowns candelabra is, and can be part of that history or something in there is a fun challenge, and that in that I imagine that also probably affects how you're setting the scene when there's no electricity and everything has to be. You know the eye we try to make it look at them to blows fund how lots of candelabra isn't it added to the the whole gothic five and the point does spikes on the gate and and and the Ngos are committed in the last section of the movie, the angles get more heightened the Cameroon in his country and a little bit of poor. For me, it was had some good,

Yes, there is definitely a little bit new gas. Yes, just to know me there's a lot that not only is there a hint Rima, so Gore is not here. You know my chambers, panic, as I would have meetings with especial thanks maker and he was a cop. Did you want? The wound is really into it. Now, like that, you know what everything in answers funny will Europeans are manifestly at that time. Any wounds is a potentially life threatening yeah area. We added a different it back. Then it was more grave. There's like taking poor back teen on it, so they basically everything just looks coming. Ask us to me ass. I mean it when I'm amazed that you have your basic as I think I think that if we were able to travel back in time, I think the biggest thing we would have to deal with is not immediately vomiting from the smells of another era. Yeah cause it's just everything's just dinner,

yeah that language, but it must have been very different. It's is merely. There was a smell yeah, yeah down the smoke return Much commercialism basically taught us that we have to be no be presentable and then you can use it, but for most of human history of feeling, that wasn't the good things of living in the modern age again. Is there another era to do that? You are drawn to No, I can't think of a minute. I enjoyed working Marie Antoinette as it was fun to to get into. Can century and precise, and that was probably really smelly speaker that but on noise and thought it was, but a specific area that I would love to get into the Marie Antoinette to bridge when I was also like another, so beautiful and colorful in, but but

Can I had like this modern feel to it now when I was being more popular because it was, there were teenagers, and I wanted it to have a an pop Dillinger might appear like need. New romantic wrote videos, and I was a kid. There always enter got periods. I was kind of having done without that but also the idea that in a way it almost felt she was kind of approach. There now again in a gilded cage, exactly know that has led to that. I, like that, about the story that kind of virtues- into a wrong. She wasn't really should choose yeah and how you find her. Find your way within where you ended up. So when you are addressing. That is that you earn your writing that when your document is what does it more based on the book or you are you looking at history as well? Like I pray, you thought I was. Adapting it from Antonia. Frazier wrote a biography about her. It was. It was more gun. If not, if her point of view of her side of this,

because most histories she's into line, so that was interesting to kind of just follow her take on an addendum. Yes, I used I've, I think, It had a more research, but it was so overwhelming to learn all the history that the part about the political side was us interesting about. You know we had a star wars scenes. We may have a gun, ministers sitting on the table- and I mean we leave out just like, oh so out of my own- that we had a little of that kind. I preferred this tell us more about her emotion, yeah? Did you learn a lot about thirty or more about directing from hanging around the set when you were a kid or from acting for double funding, I might add, sets a minute helped to be I'm a little than from the damage to know how how vulnerable that that is in time a sensitive with my actors, but on, but I learned so much from

being made outside all the time and it was fun and exciting to go inside and the people that were around him. You know article he worked. Wirthin worry. I was like ass directors what they have to use. What are you, what do you think the job of a directorate? What have you when you go to work? What is it that you think you're doing you define it. Ah, that's funny. I never good christian Ehler on has a different. Everyone has a slightly maintaining take on it. I mean you have this idea in your head the story you want to make and and then you just get all year, gave team together and ask me to help you make it you're telling a story. I have no idea what the movie looks like in my head and then its iron Fellini. One time say today:

I try to remember a dream and I thought about. That's them was the closest I can relate to it. I just have this idea in your head in and then you have to communicate it to the visual, the team, helping you with the visual side of it and the actors never want interpreter and then kind of keep guiding it to this idea. Having your head yak as idea of Europe, thing and you just have a brush in its you and that he adds canvas, but you really are managing a lot of people that cover a lot of disciplines. Yes, you have to be clear to them that how you want each element to be abandoned and what you're doing I think that this is the story, inform the characters or do you think the characters informed? The story like which, where do you kind of mean, if I guess, but from the characters like an interesting strikes, it are driven by the characters penny. I guess they both affect each other and this

March, for me much more plot, driven which have never done anything. That was so. You have the Eba tension in suspense in that the plot was really unfolding, which was an experiment for me, yet a major shootings in twenty six days. Are you just doing like two takes of everything and I get a move on now, not doubt that we need a little time, but it was either one big any reference to the next one, and you can even it's kind of things you can't think too much about ages have to keep them. Yet That's ok, doubt yourself, you can't time. For that. I that's a good thing. You could do yourself, areas like into four hours defer this have you done a lot of? I really do. I really think that the real, I think there is also a great thing for you with is not there. Telling you what you need to do with your career, but the breakthrough can be really great for if you are able to do more q and a type stuff for more just think. Yes, because I think it

you know, especially now, especially now, because people can you know, make anything so inaction, sadly oh yeah, and even just a short time since you started things- were very deep: in the nineties in terms of work or you really do have to get film. You gotta get ya, know it's cool there still estralla shooting unfound this assurance on, but I think I'm when people ask me like. Oh would certainly anyone can make a movie interests to try things. That's great success, one that you can just try things out and Anyone can do it yet how much of it is how much of it to use science and how much of his just as it out and we'll go, you know every so often this thing has to happen, nor just arms get off. The idea of feeling here is more into into. It is a thing to me, but then, within their things, I know just from a no learning like act structure and things for from when I was a writer first before directly,

I think I learned about writing from him. Talking about writing, and so combination, I think of you now have you some history in Europe and knowledge about and then and then then than being into what feels right right, you until they showed no, not at all. Actually yeah I mean it is. I think he probably because I think that the recurring theme that seems to come up it's just like flexibility, yeah, where, It doesn't matter how rigid you are going into something going. This definitely has to you know he. Can you can't control things happen? You lose your location that you have to be flexible and to come up with. You know, reacting to the situation and how that can be close to what you're the part the plenum make. You are you're, pretty patient person in general, let her now. I can't be that that I'm not when I'm excited about

dinner, my patient, but it doesnt- you don't seem particularly aggressive now known. So your impatience, it's more like an excitement, yeah legality as let's make this year- and you still feel that way when you go on to set, you still feel that he had this when I will one to make this movie- and I am an judge- always a new challenge. Get it altogether, and I just was so that determine that. I want to make this movie and I think you have to have that because you hear a lot of nose and then just find another way round that helps to become stubborn, sure, yeah or persevere of his answer. But I know you workin bash a mute and worked in fashion view, but I imagine that a completely separate yeah me not so I d like to do kind of side. Tricks and smaller things, because movies are so involved than it takes years, and so it's nice and between to do can of smaller things down to dabble creatively. Yeah. Do you ever discussed.

Now. Go you go. Gonna go shoot, a short film. I don't really know, really know what it's gonna be. I'm just gonna go to scratch that it. I wish that over my maternal donors, really into horror, and course I thought we could make a horse on the summer. I gotta get back together, but if we really want I shall give you a nice I'll, get you to some really good I would love to know when, already horror, movies. It yeah there's one out now that she like, because it centres around a little girl is called the girl with all the gifts. Isn't it her. That's really cool. I think it might be. British. Does everyone else in the movies british, but her but it's a sort of its it's kind of a zombie apocalypse story, but I'm not gonna centres around this one, this one little girls Of course it scary yeah nazis, not well, I mean so love it. Let me like any good zombie movies

where is he I am so there is a lot of like blood in flash tearing, but if she filled up so she said just now that I like it, I mean you know it. Do you think you'll encourage your kids, If they want to go and entertainment, they re like sure, do it? Why not or you can really? I can't I wanted. I want you to do what they do not like guiding them in trying to push them in that direction. Right, but it doesn't sound like you. I'd really push you in any particular direction. Nobody always just talk to us about, as if we're just gonna do You know like you, though, is. How can I go when you're in your writing? The script make sure you know so he I think the heap was so always so passionate about his work. Me love tee, always talked about insecure. Aware that he can't help can be rather get into it. Yeah ass. He was a good kids. It's just my guess, because I don't happen, but if you tell me- like do this, they're gonna be like now, but a few

leave some clues around and they feel their sort of discovering it for themselves. Then maybe that's the way and the jobs that when we go up when we were growing up, he was always watching interesting, who is now are. We were exposed her in our great movies and I think, like my kids, I didn't want to watch it can't you like. You were gonna watch this. It is better that he does Heteronomy were there. We saw them. You know supposed it whenever attraction, we don't want watched old movies, but I think it is its hopefully be it yeah exposed to some culture was rejected. Using of old movies yeah kid would sit through yeah, even anything from like that. Seven user, the eighties I now wish to sleep. They were really take their time yet knows So I guess we're watching training places the other day, which I love, and it was really find a watch with them, but then, like Jamie Courtesy, just take her top offer. No worries

they're like why should take your top off and ass. It were in the eighties nobly guy directed it was done with me. I love them only produces funny to revisit with them. I think some of that too was honestly. I think some of them probably just like well here now we gotta put boobs in it for international. I think the international cells was based on how many topless shots. That was like a thing than I think, but I love that movie. I am your dinner with them Salmon in the beard and Christmas, but you're right there is

literally no reason for Jamie Curtis to have her boobs that announcement I get, did doesn't certain other tissues rent or rather had no nothing to do with that? Yeah no plaia, one of them's Eddie Murphy, has much people over to us how to when it takes over the house and there's the woman and in his bed, which are closer to get out of here yeah. I forgot about that, but it's just you just know, sort of that fits in a little that is being taken in the right balance sheet when she brings Mahomet Department and she's, Changing the doubt, and I see he's getting settled. Then it is really the arrow. Eighty eight is a really could be defined with the words gratuitous moves. Centering ice forgot about like we grow, but I didn't even notice of the time, but that was the like that those are rated Families in the eighties were already thought. The whole parties yeah sir. I I get fast times was probably He it wasn't it. I guess I just remember that this faint, the Phoebe Cates moment that I wanted.

The age ass, copies were all on, my stock was ever so unworthy our judge right all the eye ass, Craig Kennedy, I'm thinking about Phoebe, I love them leader with such a classic. How do you define that error like? What do you think when you think back You know eighties movies, like what do you think that was what do you think it was that they were? You know I haven't, sat back and ask myself the question: what well they think you well, I mean just like you know, like defining the sort of like the tone of an error five of an era. Oh yeah. I thought your sort of innocence to her at her. No, I don't I loved her son, these and others who is really what they had a kind of optimism. Reserving yeah do you feel particularly optimistic or you're, not as a person.

I wouldn't say that I am, but I turned out to be negative- can obtain a little bubble or not turn out to be two air of the awful things don't hung on yeah yeah. I would love to figure out how to climb into their bubble Leon aware once you once you're not now much higher, that's the main one should take them out and watch sector has already taken aback yeah. You know what an apple some suddenly think. What is it we are when you have free time, would you would you do with it? Remember. I've just been, or he on this I think, seemed friends and going I love to smoothing the theatre. A New York has in old movies

the turf and the sea, and am I dont, be, I know a lot of interest, but I like and taking photos, but I haven't done anything else This will be a long and it is hard to remember the area that I think the or could be a much better place to live to go to a movie. Feeders cause, you know allay driving traffic. Parking are always the biggest considering how we can go there. I know it's hard when you have now set up at home, but then when see, a movie was an audience. I think it so soon, enjoyable, her it's a different experience. Can you watch movies with an audience like this one, the book out as seen recently financial authorities because they laugh and Hitler freaked out and it's it's such a different experiences. I'm used to sing- and you just mean the editor, but without a reaction yeah well enjoy. Now that's greatly, and I bet that kind of communal thing that happens. I forget when you're home down, you know,

many things- and I imagine your surprise by things that people reactor at already relay that would be a thing that people would want this things than we thought. Funny servers so enjoy born. You hear people laughing and catching those moments, Yorkshire, if they were, you know how noticeable ass young yeah. I feel like we're, probably getting close to your time to this. Just after five I'm going to see. The UN or the new Beverly tonight couldn't turning over during a double feature of the dancing, all beguiled, the acuteness of its sir Yeah, you do. Is you doing here in asking me why we said the time for having so I mean, I imagine you guys are friends at this guy on it. I'm looking forward to be funded autocracy, so enthusiastic,

yeah I mean it's really cool there, that the whole thing revenue Beverly such a grey now and then their near some exciting to go. I mean every every time I drive by its on the way to one of the places that were raised. Like you, shut up a feature, looks really good right. Now, I'm gonna make my time vertebral features it'll be like you know, Stripes ends, after you know, it's just lay hid she's such a is a passionate about. I know so cool. It is doing that. I am excellence. Well, do twenty? Third is a movie? Do you have any last bits of don't know? I always like to find out from people like what is what like a guiding principle or what's a piece of wisdom that you have that you kind of keeping your head a guiding principle of sorts, that's a good question: why did you know I try to go on

I turn only work on things that I really love and and don't tell me for money right, it's important that you have to really. I think you know something that you would do if none was positive is that you have to do as first. Where are you taking my unlike in the sense that if some was like shit tunnel money to do this thing? Do you feel like our? Even if it's something I'm passionate about that. Given the way or not, and never had that action, Now was something that I was passion about them in a more for it, but I mean and make sure your doing the things you really love yeah. That once a word, I hope you like Mohammed Ali, as someone else dignified and graceful under pressure. If you're, really yeah regular home you think about Mohammed Ali. Do I mean he's like one of my role models when things are you know in yours?

something like that, the whole his whole robot up? Did you get to meet him? No, no. I didn't, but Emma one time you when I was going to show you first movie and can burden suicides numbers nervous and he said, the Mohammed Ali when it goes into the ring, you think, did I train a hard enough to do everything I could to prepare and and and not help me to think, like ok did everything they could and you know it, you see what happens, but that's an excellent piece of grape. Landing point. Ok, there's really pleasure talking to you and congratulations on movie and a failure, work and I'm a fan of, family, and I love Jason and should have an email everywhere that he's the Susan Sweetest guy. He told the story tell me a story and you didn't tell it on the podcast, but it was after protest about common feral, who is in the beguiled yeah yeah. He knew I don't know

about meeting his little daughter. No, he added with Jason is just what a shriek eight years ago. So I think it was a maybe a beetles book or something he ordered a book oh yeah story. I get you remember that the debt Tony he ordered and you ve, been waiting weeks deal for the forever to get. This finally got this book and he met Collen Feral and he was so charmed in dislike, Ass for words and confirms that book green. I've been dying to read that and Jason goes here this for you and just gave it to you. Yes, I remember that I go. Did you get to read the book in whose no I didn't I mean maybe reorder puts at that time. He just don't like a thing to do and the point we are waiting for an economy so charming charismatic that you he compelled to do things like yeah really and Jason so sweet that giving them it has its is acute sweets, hurry, we'll figure, someone

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