« ID10T with Chris Hardwick

Stan Lee Returns

2013-09-27
Chris sits down with Stan Lee in his toy filled office to talk about how he will never stop writing, his cameos in movies and he gives some insightful advice for young people! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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these common causes experts will take place in the very first through third, in LOS Angeles, its common gaming enemy, siphoned seaboard general pop culture expo. So look for that every unless Anderson, our first through first through the third ETA, get vandalism tuesdays, attended central inside a gentle Harry, is your generally seem o himself stay and Lee true believers. You know I did have a cold. There would be a better Stanley. I promise it's it's more standish at this point
murder star com to your office. It's really hard not to start with things in your office. You know you can't just leave stuff like this out and not expect people to start touching everything it is for me to play with you. I help women Sammy play the amazing Spiderman pinball machine when worked been broken for a few years, but damn I loved it when it worked. I'm gonna make it
but it made no noise in the bull bouncing around. It was great. I want to make this my personal mission to send someone to fix your pinball machine would be greatly appreciated, but I feel like once is by gas, goes up we're gonna get a million responses of people saying affix it's good I'd, let them that I don't you want to add just anyone in your office. Oh yes, we let us do so anyway, I'm here no you're right, you're right! There was no, no one! No one! Stop me. I just got to walk right in but its greedy either the will sort of noble sort of loosely talk about the Phanfasms show, but from the standpoint of The idea of where our culture has gone since you, since you started, and how much I think, fans like I would rather case of where the culture has gone when I started. That was the start of the culture that rightly there was no, and since I am still operating, the culture is still continuing. It is hard to think what will happen when I'm, though,
here. But that's your problem. No that's never gonna happen represent an eye is there? It, sir! Well it's just you know I, when I was growing up the idea of you know being a hard core fan of comic. Sorry, you know, video games or or whatever was still a very insulated environments and now I feel like our culture has evolved to hey. It's ok to be but in an excited about the things that you love him you have. You noticed that in the past few decades, I'm one of the great observers of all sorts of human trench you see show I've certainly noticed. Its reach. The point now, where the fact that I don't have time to play video games makes me an outsider right and I dare not tell people I haven't got time to read, comics decide, we'd be shut, but that do you feel it people
this, then, that you're busy making them, which means that you don't have as much time to go play as you would want to, but I I generously bestow all of those goodies upon the human race, that's right, for which I, save a lot of appreciation and it works out? Well, you know. I do think it's funny that lot of people use me is this the interview this? Is it we're on our way forward, just kidding around, we are kidding around to get into official vote? No, it's ok! I know this. Isn't this: what did it now, The progress is a very loose conversation. I did one with you once a couple years ago. It was at a convention in Vegas. I think and it was. It was very much that this kind of standard like worded spider man come from and what is evident- and you were very gracious but the door but you're in but oral. Yes, but you know it's all its other questions that you had to answer a million times, but I was, I was actually excited too, can have you back on so that we can
talk gonna be like a conversation. That's why I didn't realize it was an interview s the hour, more nervous and and that's right well being in debut. What's gonna happen, is we're going to close the blinds and I'm gonna fire a spotlight on you and then I'm used it, but I always felt wherever I go: there be somebody up there. She just keep one on me at all. At all times, I feel comfortable with the spotlight. It is kind of interesting, though I've just kind of going back to what you said were people would be horrified to know that you haven't read every single thing ever, not really thinking like with so many hours in the day and that you have to your creating in it. You don't have time necessarily. They were always when I don't answer the whole world comes to withstand folds his yeah. Well, I think it's I think people expect I mean
you are the generally sumo and don't forget it. I will never forget it people. I think people think oh, he is this. You know, I'm nepotism being who does not follow the same rules of time and space that we mere mortals follow. I like the way that sounds a little along with it. Do you think ever see like comics, or are you not the sort of culture that we ve built as sort of like a new kind of religion for people like just like us, like a lifestyle, a way to. I hope. It's not it's just something nation, joy, get a hell of a kick out of you know here and I'm not trying to tamper with anybody's religion. I want some religious fanatics of, I don't mean,
You mean you, keep your own. Religion are more interfering. Do what you want pray the way you want leave me out of it. I don't get me and Bob amended stuff now design. I just mean that in the literal sense, but in this the figurative sense of like you know, this culture has evolved to give people like a lifestyle set of beliefs, and you know it don't you feel like what are the only We saw the fact that marble has wonderful comics, that Disney produces the greatest movies in the world, mainly the marble ones here, and that I am so generous and bestowing all this one demand on the human race that that's really the only believed they were trying to get across anybody in the that's all. That's it in the seventies and eighties did you think, did you ever think you know some These films are going to be as big as they have become because there there was sort of, slump? You know,
seven isn't it was like they would try to make a superhero movie and adjust it just didn't. Have the effects are just didn't, have the the half witted? did, and now you know now its expected. This is the part of the advisory seriously tried to make the movies they worked at the beginning. The proof for we did was blade, yeah, the vampire hunter or whatever the hell. The name was right did well, they were. There was a lightweight equal adieu and after that came expanded, spider, man and so forth. So we really were very lucky as well as being incredibly talented and brilliant about the way the movies were made. I wish I could take credit for them, but I didn't make the movies, but I sure loved him and now there's no stopping us. Now every movie is better than the one before I really envy you that
you'll be able to see one after another after another. I'm so busy am doing what I do to bring enlightenment to the human race that occasionally occasionally have the eggs. I beg responsibly. Is that you that you ve graciously shouldered yourself, which is very nice neighborhood myself out that way, but I must like that you know when it when it, when a superhero movie really works, that it almost kind boils the audience and away because they may expect every film to be better than the previous one which, as is very hard to reinvent the genre every time you make a movie. No, no each film gets better than the last one, because we learned something with each film and we always leave a little clue what's coming next, like we did with the comic books. Every story I wrote in the comics was
better than the one before and we started very, I wasn't easy to do. You can tell that modesty is mighty, addresses the hell out of date though it cannot stand, he doesn't. He doesn't want to take any credit for bottle. I happened to be my biggest span. In fact, I may have never told you this before. I've always wished that I wish buddy else, so that I could have me for a friend I mean wouldn't my feet and listen to the wisdom of ports when you say it like that, it's almost a burden that you have to be because you don't. We are not able to be your own friends. I carry that burden very well, but we then there needs to be like a wisdom of Stanley APP or something so that people can just hit their follow. You couldn't put it into words to deeds, it really is true. No phone could hold information. Note what you think about
one thing you ve learned over the last several decades, what it cut interviews like this before I make a total, what is it that you think that, like have you seen happen, and what do you think you ve learned it because you're still I mean I don't. What you're writing, but I can see over there, your desk without spying, that you're writing that you, oh yes, you come in and right everyday, I with some material for a tv series of were doing, and what I have learned is that if you keep working it keep she added trouble. If I keep writing, I don't get in trouble yeah and I'm the kind of guy who normally would get in trouble? So by just keep writing in that way it is, and nobody can yell at me when I'm right old, don't disturb me. Writing better know what the hell I'm writing. It could be. The quick Brown Fox jumped over the lazy. But they don't want to disturb me. So I have my own little inglenook. I look like compounding pounding the typewriter. Nobody knows what I'm doing at the time. I don't know what I'm doing.
And this isn't that all the answer you expected is no, but it's a good answer, because I, first of all, I think people like to know that you're still in bed oh. Am I ever involved yeah I mean that you come in everyday. Is yours, pretty much you come in every day. You come out and every single day I hear them, and the all God he's here again every day that the planned yeah I stay, you sometimes a couple hours even allow yeah make the supreme sacrifice. Nothing I've told you he has been true not was entertaining. I hope it held your interest. I dont want any It was decided that this acknowledge its freedom parted because it took a nonsense, but you I mean of most of the people that we ve had. Gas and they were real people, we ve got your real. I can put your handwriting Miriam you here again,
HU. I mean it adorable good year at adorable, gentlemen, with more knowledge than most human beings have, but you ve probably done more, her views than anyone that I've aim of the whole world and that doesn't include only this planet now know it's all its negative system, but most of the universe and end the outer rim. But how do you? How do you keep fresh? when you're, you know cause again like I said when I heard you the first time. I know you ve been asked questions a million times, but you answer them with you like exuberance with alacrity and withdraw my yeah exuberance. I know you were so impressed. I it made me feel good to see you sitting there just beaming and smiling. I was thinking how fortunate I am to be interviewing
wonderful human. Being at how sad I was for you that you were getting medics, that it no longer live. Your life cited English, but uneasy to please. So how do you mean? Is it dear you still that passionate about this material, that you can tell the same. Spiderman story Emily. Times and still feel invigorating. I have never told the same Spiderman story twice. Each issue was a brand new story with new problems and complications and events that took place. Never have I repeated this story. I will have to ask our society What steps will for the first? I just watched on the other day, someone had posted the Spiderman. Be serious from the seventies. Did you have anything to do with that? You know. I honestly don't remember I might have. I don't recall it was quick because I think it was
for a couple of. Did you remember where you will now three Rina rather how's before my gacha? He was reading war and Peace Things like that is. Is this your browser about your business barter guild champion my partner, damn right, the guy who does all the work? I take all the credit we have. The greatest relationship, ptomaines amongst a visa is that a fair assessment guilt runs, Gill, rubs divisions. We had a deal years ago. You run the business I'll. Do the interviews that I don't know who came out ahead on that one time What does it take to run this business with all the areas that you guys stretch into? I think it's about seven days a week at least twelve hours a day and then spend all occasionally be emailing skyping up to about twelve.
Yeah and how many different areas are you guys I mean you know film, on television in comics and video games and immediately anything that has to do with entertainment game. I'm sorry, my boys are, you want to have the most magnificent voice, and all of a sudden I gave up my throat has model I just feel their cause. Whoever's listening to this isn't getting the fallen joint data, this great they're not getting what we refer to as the full stand, which I think of ethical little bit of water will clearly be in a whisper, awaiting stance regarding characters
There is for Maurice Allais you maybe these publishing it, because you are you, you could go the Waterford. Our people will be injured. Every enterprise would find a way to make arguing, for that is how the generally some work makes gurgling interesting. Now. The funny thing is, you have to make everything fun if it isn't fun, why do it with its writings? raise, your reading stories are producing stories or doing movies or television shows you gotta be entertained, were in the business of entertainment, yeah, we haven't quite succeeded debt, but that's Well, I think you know people getting the business world a different reasons and I'm sure for some of them its money is said, Sir Universal Jill. Those are fine, but ultimately I do you do have to remember, because every day is gonna be filled with all these are often problems that we have to.
No, they are every day and every single day, one problems. I think I owe my three problems every day, although they haven't given. I disagree about a format existed, but but I do feel like it's important to remember the Corbett, that it is supposed to be found that ultimately, the thing you're working for a supposed to be fun will here's the thing the business, wherein is the business of entertainment, entertainment has to be fun. You one went, detain people you want them to enjoy what you're offering them yeah. So we try to be enjoyable and asked why keep Gill around nobody really likes me, but he has this great personality that one I have a good time after another. So if you, if you, if you're up against a project, that its feeling like this, isn't find this isn't funny, we get rid of it, you didn't get rid of it. Absolutely that's why we have nothing to do today or we make it one.
We find a way to turn it around and make it one yeah like this interview. We believe this would be a boy. Darwin absolutely, but look at the fun we're having in the people. Listening to it are gonna, be saying o Lord. I hope it does too soon, orders. So, wonderful, please! Let us keep going off, then I'm sorry, I know it is, though I'm sitting there watching I'm so jealous of you than William Review being interviewed. Trying to do it doesn't work. When I said I just I conjure up when you say that the door is not a door ability is one of my maiden your ability- and I dont about that. The idea of, because the show vandalism show really is about people exploring like the farthest reaches of things that they fan over and come on its budget guys want away costumes and make like superior less, which is, Maybe it sounds of philosophical. It is those Africa from you know from the from
level that I see it at every, because I go to a lotta conventions from a level I see it. Is it really There is a philosophical thing about it, because, again what I kind of getting an earlier than it used to not be accepted to be into stuff like that it just it just wasn't. People would do no day. We were not accepted. So now we have these massive communities where people are openly saying. Yes, where are they? assumes. You want be get excited about the things that your excited about it. It's ok, I feel. Like you have usher in this age of acceptance that we didn't happen. Will I think, to put it more briefly and accurately, I have liberated coffee, I think
if we really getting to the meat of network funding, allow I could not agree more. We were prisoners before and now we are free, you are set, you free, you are Morpheus and you have given us the red pill. I'm glad you're, aware of that, but I had no in my own humble way. Never funny thing is: why was Halloween always such a popular holiday with young people? They loved dressing yeah, everybody loves putting on a costume, but there was no reason to until the comics, with the costume characters became so popular in the movies and now kid so by the CUP
Tunisia, where the customs I feel like it's ok to do this, because we are part of a whole generation. That's doing it were point of an inner circle and end. When we go to the comic book conventions, then we'll liberated, then we can dress anyway, we want to write and in it it is really a social change in a sense because they use The people only thought of costumes during our way. Right now, when a movie comes out when there's a convention new television show that deals with something super people feel address like that to why not as five so again, the whole purpose of being in entertainment is to end detain people and let them feel that having fun. So I can say that I'm responsible for people weren't costumes, but if they enjoy it
its armless. Why not? Well, I think a lot of I COMECON changed fundamentally at the beginning of the two, Thousands when we started to see you know like with I'm really spider man and the next man. That's when the comic book inventions became not just comic books, but also like pop culture. At the same time, which involve movies and television shows- and that's very perceptive of you, because comic conventions are no longer comic book and they are now entered, TAT, meant, convention, drive and you're right. You have movies, you have television, you even have movies. Now, I'm sorry music now and pretty soon there be playing of sports everything that people are interested in and entertained by mainly
the part of these conventions yet, and I think you know I've seen some people sort of complaint about then go it's not just about comics anymore Nego. Yes, it may not be about comics, but I think it's, I think it's better things more welcoming when you can kind of include you know and then and weak, because its popular now, we like a massive avenger movie. You know as opposed to what we want in the seventies and eighties, which would have been an attempt to get. You know a very small audience would your feet in the seventies. They didn't even have the special effects that they could have today right I mean right now, there's nothing. You can visualize that you can put on the screen that wasn't the case a few decades back, so the the art of special effects has helped so much and the fact that now then not afraid to take what we
in the comics and portray it in the same way on the screen they dont at the change is tremendously to make it more palatable to a movie audience right. They have found that the movie audience responds to the very same things that the comic book readers responded to right, which is kind of interesting when you do a whole other into view about that. Well, and also yes, you get guys like just Sweden who grew up reading comic books, who then you know, got big enough and experience enough to help will be like this to. Essentially we express the things he loved when he was a kid who were I sort of innocent people, a generation raised on comics and pop culture. Of that nature. Being able to say no to do, something is huge is possible. If it I mean I moderated their moderated, their moral
analyze comecon this year and just came out for a minute at the end, just to announce the name of an extra measures movie and people were they went crazy villages tearing their eyes out because they couldn't they couldn't. You knows too much to handle. So I think when you, when you the cards and you see that level of van and certainly people freely. When they meet you in person, the how're. How are you able to sort of herring able to kind of them down a little because you, your very you, make people feel very comfortable. So how are you able to get people from you know how my god and just like calm down. Let's talk, no result, you know with me they're always, oh, my god. I'm always show inspiring site, but I don't know I just talked to them. You know that's making speeches, so I dont make speeches. I talk to them, yeah and I try to hear what they have to say. They always ask questions that I can't answer:
give him some ridiculous answer. One question: I always get it if the whole cattle fight galactic school when Right- and I answered as honestly as I can- it depends on whose writing the story? That's a good answer. That's a really good answer, and I appreciate that they appreciate that deep down native honesty for which it was so well now but it is sort of interesting that you know without them, with all the different characters and all the different properties. They do all. Have you no multiple storylines and Will you never says and multiple ways that their drawn in depicted in characterized and but when it all comes down to it, still assumes like it's all still from your from your head. Well, it did years ago, not anymore, I'm that writing them now, I kind of which I was.
Jealous. What would you write it if you, if you felt like I want to pick up and already one of the really love more doktor strange, the black Panther, the spider man, the x men, iron man? I love more debt level yeah, who are you my biggest fan? I forgot to tell you you're the biggest man. Oh yes, so when you, when you're just gonna passing, tell me: how did you catch a merry like all my guy Stanley man, he looked so good stead who would want to fight the vulgar gulags pledges? Rightly I always the best yeah I took some. We took some questions from from Twitter, just some general so far. This was going well, but now, if I have really informative, but no you don't have to be its, but is a good one. I learnt this question this. Then you end ok, I will I will answer this is from. Underscore. Eighty out, I think, means Atlanta. Are there any decisions that you
made for early marvel characters that you later regretted, like origins, deaths, etc. Ash I found as the only I don't know their regret, those one character that I made up call d I'll blow as a villain. I think in a fantastic for story. Jacobean I needed to do a story quickly. So every story depends on the villain. I had no idea, so I It is a great name Dior blow and I gave him the idea for the story. We did it. It's the only story. I can't remember what it was. I can't remember who held the oblong was what he did or why he did it, and that bothers me, because when you create a character, you should feel you'd know. One and all I had was a name Deah blow, and I cannot remember with the story, was I say: that's my one big failure, although but probably sold okay, so it's out there somewhere out. There is the oblong somewhere years ago,
there's a character of the elbow room. I don't know anything about. Maybe he'll make the cameo, you never know. No, no. I make the cab you make all the cameos young people always want to know, like all wanted, to carry gonna be in the next vertically safely, assume the next cap in Amerika and the next spider man. I miss the next x men and I missed the paths Wolverine because they were out of town and I couldn't get there in time. I know the viewers will be broken. Oh by the way, did I tell you, the marble movies make so much money wisely, because my cameos, that's the cameo I'll. Tell you why the cameos a very brief right, yeah somebody goes to the movie maybe just as my cameo starts, he bent down to get some popcorn MIDAS builder. He blinked his eye. He misses my cameo. So what's the logical thing to do, gotta go back, you guys. I took a box office by another. Take it am, I would say,
fifty percent to the set of some of the money to buy Gabby my political, greater authority, as it always does it all. Right, he gets up. Another infuriated the movie gets up, walked back up by a man right back into the think how much money Wolverines may cause. I didn't: have a cameo they'll go back time and again and again wondering where it is. So, that's probably why we haven't in the ultimate Stanley movie, where they just cut all of your cameos out and strong them altogether. Wouldn't that be a good I am beginning, like the USA, say I'm never going to be useful. Yet,
from the mixture dna which character of yours you relate to the most and why? Oh, I guess Tony Stark: could she so handsome and successful in glamour ran out spoke? It has to be Tony's. It's gotta be doubted that people media in the street. They say I atoning. I understand we owe a great about a country like don't start is that there is no You know who usually people when they look at a character, there's something that they want to relate to. You know, but Tonia dislike he's. One of the smartest guys on the planet he's a mega billionaire Andy's super handsome, and is this like everything that should be threatening the people? The people still loved that's right, because, as a sense to all levels is a glint in his eye yeah Let's see, ok, that's what I like this is from Walden well. I like it. Will you
I don't know you may not. I don't know we're gonna find out which marble character. Would you want to accompany you ve during a zombie apocalypse would have wondered what which marble character. Would you want to have on your side during the zombie apocalypse? Now we know the zombie apocalypse is going to happen. Stand we don't know when, but we know what's gonna happen. Well, let me tell you how I feel about zombies. Ok, I cannot get into this whole. Zombie thing is, I think, they're all written wrong. Ok, if I had been dead and came back to life, I wouldn't want to kill people, I'd be so go live again. One party allowed look at me. I'm alive, come on, let's have a drink, they gather. What are they show? angry about. I dont like this old zombie thing, so you ve. Always the question which
dear listen, I'm way on your side. I really think that the zombies just don't seem grateful allows matter with sir, but this is your which marble character. Would you want to have on your side during a zombie epoch largest pick any one, the hulk the whole could be all we good either. How good idea and shame for anything good, one of my side. For any reason, I wonder if they can't buy the risk in he's it be freebie. Fine, you gotta be good, which act or do you think come closest to how you imagined your character. When you first wrote it, will they ve all been good, I'm think Toby Maguire was, rate is by he was a great by an I think, Andrews Great at spider man that, as first names Dandridge over the years. I think that obviously rubber dummy Junior was born to be iron man right. I think that Captain America's right now
they're all through the one guy who thought that who play DARE Devil, then the network, I thought better of liquid good but somehow in the movie it wasn't directed that they made him too much of a tragic figure right, I thought, or by air of them dare devil as a guy with a sense of humour, he enjoys the fact that people think these blind, but really knows more than they do right. I would have given it a different tone deaf, but I thought he himself with pretty good and from August question. Well, it was rule is closest to the character. Well, I'd say really all of them. I think the last hope is the best yeah either one of the Avenger Buffalo Yard, ruffle it was a great, was a grave did that well and that's it from
I really do. There's no question that ravaging Junior was is Tony start, but I just there's something about Toby's Toby requires Parker, where it's just. He was that kind of dorky kid, Sarajevo into this thing, he was wonderful. Yeah guy was wonderful. I forget his name and annual hate me for it. The fellow who played the thing- oh yeah, listen better Michael Checklists Year, Michael Jack was a great guy.
And nobody could have been a better thing that Michael she was. He was. He was a pretty fantastic baby. Fantastic had this is from Joe did Mark. Have you ever considered writing a novel? No, I dont have the patience. I thought I would be a novelist where I was very young, but I got spoiled because I was able to do a comic book in one day, so I said at the typewriter for six hours, seven hours whatever was- and I finished the story and I was finished and it was such a great feeling next day. I thought another story, but that's fine. There was a new experience, but somehow to have to sit for weeks or months and work on one story. I dont have the temperament for this, since they would do you go back and take second third passes, or do you just like the first ass, a pretty much pretty much on really I'll? Do you never had time for second pair, we hit the headlines problems, oh yeah,
is it that is the way we would turning out at one time over forty magazines a month- and I was writing motion- Oh, my god, you do yeah you there wasn't time. Do I think I'll deal with this a little bit rewrite it or maybe I'll think about it and change it tomorrow? No, it was written drawing now. What's the next one yeah. Do you think that's a good lesson for young writers is to learn how to not be too precious about all. I have to go back three or four times a just like I move on right? No, no! I don't think it's a good less net. That's just what happened to me. There is some writers who write a first draft. Then they polish, it gets to be much better on the second draft and so forth. Every writer has his own system and I wouldn't ever say, follow my system because it might not work.
Whether people know what are the things that you're a fan of like it? Are you watching anything? You have time to watch anything now. I used to be a big fan of everything and I don't have time to go to the movies and I don't really watch television, a wider creek, comic books. What the hell is happening in the world. I just sit here right would have a gill tells me to write. I'm like a slave in deserts But what do you make? An MRI guillotine, make it and read. You know, he's creating a whole Cason NEWS stories, probably a word that the votes contemporary times they may not be wearing stand excellent wearing jeans. Just did it all comes back to the story and that's what he does better than anybody else. Where did the spandex thing come from? Where did that? Where did that ever come for us to prevent its a funny thing, when I did the fantastic for the first issue, I didn't give them customs and we started getting fat.
Male? We love the blockage rate or man. It's terrific. We can't wait for the next issue, but if you don't given costumes, will never read it glided, need I paused before one may I realise the fans, like costumes and the reason I gave them all customs. Did you try to make its other halloween was only six times a year happened right, as some people would have he's a good guy, even the hope I couldn't think of the monster giving himself a costumes were made his skin green. So it looks like it's almost like a costume and then also the most stretches purple pants anyone's ever yet I did get ridiculed a lot further, but that's why you're reading in a comics which was initially me guys problem. You guys we're thinking of penal, putting those over to film and televisions like those colors pop on a page. Oh they do. They look really good on a page and then so when you think that first joke in the excellent like where we were resource to be
yellow leather, you know, but but its somehow, still manage to translate. Ok, like was able the guy, the readers loved edited every page, look colorful, unexciting it pops but see. I said, Kaliko exciting. He asked the top me by saying it pops, ok, it did Patsy. I just I took it nice, the preferred it wasn't a better way of MRS from at came on six five one. What kind of irony of these do we have seventy four more I'm getting what company here would you want to make a movie about? But you think it would be the hardest to make. None of them are hard at this point, any any notice and what you can do, a movie of anything of any body. The special effects are capable doing any one. Who would you want to see that? Maybe we haven't all want to see all of our characters. I can't wait to see the doctor strange, the black panther and man defenders of the galaxy.
All of them. I want to see everyone worth. I want to see in humans, big, I still Not seeing the ape man footage because I didn't even know there was a man, but its wall is some already EDGAR right made like a little teaser for COMECON lies here and during the COMECON pen I was just a camera test, but apparently it was incredible, I haven't seen I haven't seen any of an men will be a great movie. Everybody will want to see if you mark my words excise. While I get your if anyone could do, I think I should point out as a comic strip. It never worked because it was the I'm character? The artists didn't know how to draw when I say that they should have all- and I kept telling him this, but they didn't do it. They should have drawn and man standing next a recognisable things like a paper cup ride. We realise a smaller
but they would draw him in a panel by himself and he looked like a normal sized man. You know what a yes We ve seen in most of the panels and the immense story. You didn't get the feeling you're looking a little guy- and I used to say you ve gotta- put things where his size will be contrasted to something else. They never quite got it and I think that's the only reason and man didn't become one of our top care. But I think in enough in the film brilliant film, it'll, yellow, be read, wonderful, yeah, you wait and see, but I, but I also think that you know like this dissimilar movies at work really well are held by people who, I think, are pretty similar to your sensibility of guys who understand action and who love comics, but are also inherently funny, like John Sweden's are really funny. Guy same rabies, a funny guy James Guns,
funny guy guardians like this, that, whatever the test, what is regarded as I saw a great at your a funny guy like it's these, they did this something about a layer of humor. Then I think whenever one rushed off, this are making comic book movies. But some of the mist, because that you just you just need a little bit of that here. Why do you think that is well, I'm not sure I like being referred to as a funny I always thought I was more the profound type of person, but I'll over little girl, yogi letting the overlooker good. Now, why do I think? What is why? Why why? Why do you think that that, when guys how these movies that they work best when they have a little bit of humor will because all of life is a little bit of you? May you did people together talking sooner or later, somebody uses
something to make someone smile things that a deadly serious all the time become boring like this individual deadly boring. You have lost all your audience without was my fault nine Europe. Now, because you are trying to pretty dull analysing to myself talking in thinking where I want to hear this, so a little uma or a little a little touch of whimsie or something it it's necessary. I tried to put that normal things are owed, spider man, all of them M people love view more and when you can mix that with wild did Sure you have the greatest combination of the world. So one of the shows that you guys are producing the offenders are one thing: isn't premier the Paris tomorrow for temporary? Ok, what is it I drive a boy wonder by tomorrow. It will be up, like I think at the end of this week is somebody gonna have to listen to this whole thing, nor you're gonna cut it down
To a reason of you mean the whole tat the whole winter oh they're getting all of it whose getting it the bobby humans with them. They were they getting it on the internet. Really the internet is just a ring gutter of content. What are you going to define this? You go to my website, which is an artist dot. Com noticed at noticed that com or I tunes noticed, and then you know Peter. Set up like they they had to subscribe, really have listening, oh yeah, So whatever we do? We have, we have lookers endlessness, it's pretty crazy Oh yeah yeah, it's pretty nice. What, then, can we start over again? So I could be more careful answer. I'm here with Stanley here it is office, stand tell us the meaning of life. What does it all mean? What does it all mean? I think he s really is just the I'll tell you what it means. What the middle of the ocean, terrorism rock.
And it's a mile? I had a mile square, a rock once, every thousand years, a little humming bird and for a few seconds sharpened speak against the rock then flies away when that rock will have been worn down to nothing by them humming bird. One second of eternity will have perished as that deep, when I was a kid I read, there was a book called the outline of history by a guy Hendrick bill. Him then Loon, I think, was tat. He was in those days and important historian and us and for some reason I bought that book, and that was the front
page. Just have one paragraph on the opening page by itself, and I always remember that when the bird had worn away, though one mile, big rock. One second of eternity will have passed, which has nothing to do humor and nothing to do with conviction? I don't know why. I said that because it's a good, do you? What do you think the message we haven't? You think the messages that that nothing we do matters or do you think that it now every thing everything matters adders, but only to us for a second. What do we do? I think. So, how do you stay as adorable there I was kind of going there. How do you stay a beat and positive in the happy in well? If I'm here
You went into view I might as well try to do a cheerful e yap. Much as I hate doing interview. Does everyone doesn't subscriber that philosophy guarantees on level some people are a little. You know I don't know some people, I read this year, Gregg Craig. You know I'm very appreciative of the fact that somebody would want to interview me I remember when I was a kid and I am pleased to think you must be wonderful to be important to. I felt very unimportant when I was a kid, but must be wonderful. People who want to see your well want. Your company wanna talk to you, so I am very appreciative of the fact that somebody might one went to view me yeah you'll remember how it felt as a kid I was Peter Parker. You were so the you. You think you're greater progress, a kid, but I think that's. What do you know whether with the comics there's always the sort of like, in others, recurring theme of light? is the tragic hero who can never find
call Vinny, always giving everyone else, and he can't ever give to himself. You know, but there is, so that sort of aspiration of where we all want to feel like someday sons. Happen, I'm gonna be special in some way. Everybody hopes to everybody and its canonize. If it happens, I remember the one thing I hope for more than anything. I finally got it. We never had a car, not family, but that a patient. If I could only have had a bicycle, I would have been free to go wherever I wanted yeah. I was about thirteen years old one Christmas, my folks actually pool their money gathered. Bought me. It too will, and that was like the happiest day of my life. I lived in the Bronx, but I could go across the
each to Manhattan, pedal down all the streets? Back again, I was free, which has nothing to do. What would I bring that up because you know what it relates to is that it's sort of like sort of like the humming bird therefore, those moments in your life where you go. If I could just have this one thing, if I could just have this one thing, are you able to sort of draw
happiness out or you do feel never satisfies you feel I go now. I've gotta go figure out what this next thing is. I don't think anybody is ever set aside. I don't care who you are nobody's ever satisfied, but am, I feel, close to being satisfied yeah? How did you I don't expect much more to happen. He holds everything's gonna happen, as happened yes M, but it's fun doing things. We still have some movies at pow here that we are working on that I think will be out in the next year or two we have some television shows, but it'll be great as long as long as I can keep working I'm happy here is that the is that sort of that sort of the goal is just too just keep keep doing what you like doing. As long as I can assure you take men who retired people can't wait to retire, because when they retire, they can
Finally do what they wanted to. They can play all the golf they want with their friends or they can take trips again boat. I'm doing what I want to do so is no need to think of retiring or anything else. If I would do, something else. I'd be wishing. I would doing what I'm doing now. Yeah so again I don't remember the question was I may be off the question now is to sort of, like the point of it all, has just constantly staying energize amazing people who retire at some horrible to me, like really your you get up, and you don't have to do anything like that sounds but I'm go your way. You sort of. Are you work out? What could you find time to relax? I dont considered work and the it's fun the sitting down and dreaming up a story is fun putting it down on paper.
Then looking at it and liking get mom. I probably trojan my biggest sphere. I read what I wrote nicely wow did I do that's that's right. That's fine! You ever ever has the opposite. Has the opposite happened where you go, I can't believe I wrote this once in a while, but then I quickly waded out or radio cut it out I write it. Let I'm happy there. Are you happened too often, are you happy guy in general, giving like anybody else? I think most people are stressed out an anxious, yeah upstretched very often, and anxious very often put when I'm with people, I'm happy, I liked being with people yeah me too. The kind of us to be alone along at your thoughts. He wants to be alone with your thoughts. Well, I'm never. Luckily, I never leverage alone out of my wife at home and do I the people there, the studio and so on. As long as people around your stimulated, you know yeah. I like that
I mean I know I know resort of you know we make a lotta jokes about people really do work. Dear me, like you, ve sense that right when you go to the Meyer their taste, but that doesn't it ever it. I know you can joke about it, but is it? Does it ever sort of trip you out think of you know like where you are, and people's kind of fanned Gideon, honest answer yet, and I never think about it. It never really occurs to me. I mean I love that when I go to a convention and greeted so nicely, but damn it's nothing I dwell upon. If I did I'd I'd, become a conceded nerd yeah. Well, I guess it's just that you ve had the you ve had the sort of looks we have being involved for so long over. Seventy four decades and you ve, seen the sort of you ve seen the evolution of it, I'm sure they're, a periods when
your lifetime Stanley Interior, so you know like, but then you you built this career, and then you built this thing and now it's you know it's so rooted in so much of what we love and so much aware culture has gone. Well, I'll put it this way now, I know had Charles Dickens right away, that's I'll find out how Dickens felt Germany at any advice for young people, not creators just as human beings, any advice fur like just wisdom, wisdom that you can impart yeah. If you're young enough to try to find a career, choose a career that consists of work that you enjoy doing, because if you can work at something you enjoy than you not working you're having fun,
and I think that probably the worst thing in the world would be to have a job that you don't care for, but you're doing it because you have to make a living because then you are looking forward to when you retire right. You have a vacation, but again, if, if you like mechanics, get into a job where your involve with mechanics and mechanical things, we were. Things like that, if you like, selling, get a job as a salesman, Nicolet whatever it is, you like try to get into that field. It won't be is difficult for you, you, you won't feel much much good work right, but you be doing what you like. No that's easier said than done it's very hard, sometimes most of the time to get involved in the type of work that you wish. You could do. Sometimes you just can't do it. You have to take another
God knows whenever she hung I did. I was in a sure I was in office boy. I delivered stuff from a drugstore everything, but if you can, when you are young, you get out of school, try to get some work in a field that you are interested in, a civil make it more bearable for you, Well, it's interesting because you, I think Europe, your generation was less supportive of do the stuff you want to do. It was more of a generation of like not our work as a thing that you go to ninety five doesn't matter if you hate it had to you gotta do a wheat yeah exactly if you want to eat you got it, you gotta, do it and then you know, but it sort of paved the way for it on my dinner.
And younger, which was like that. You know they don't have you know you, you have this twenty year, adolescents now and you can sort of do whatever you, whatever you want with less great, if you can get by doing whatever you want, I think that's wonderful! Would you I envy you do do we need to look at our culture is now, do you still have a sort of like a man and be so much more fun to grow up now or do you are worried? I never think of it. I think every year of my life? It would an exciting world. You know, I don't think it's anymore citing now than it was back, then that they now you have three d movies. I had great comedians on the radio, or would you like the same thing? You know it it's what you enjoy, who did you like other was Jack Penny Harry Canter, Fred Alan,
Those are the three big ones at the time that I was a kid and then, of course, came television arching bunker dear Dick Vandyke show things like that chick is the one about the army medical core. If we get the NASH mash them those things to me enjoyable is watching a movie. Now I mean it just anything that was well done and entertaining so the the shape of things changes, but the philosophy remains. The same. People want to be entertained and whatever is out there to attain. Them is wait. Fifty years from now
There may be no more movies or anything that may be something you put on your head and you get everything you just absorb the experience I mean and that'll be fun to exist. Whatever is out there grabbed for its Kapital, entertain you yeah! I think there's always sort of there's always sort of very narrow field. A visionary go well entertainments great now, but a problem was not great back then wonderful. Back, then wonder and funny thing I remembered the radio or television usually the big thing in my family and I imagine most families we put the radio one on Sunday night, that's one motion, comics were, and strangely enough, waiter enjoy chairs facing the radioset disadvantages as if it was a tv set in
radio was there. My chair would be like that. I wouldn't sit this way because it's coming from their know. You'd said like this and listened very strange when you think about it. Radio is wonderful now before radio. I guess there was the theater and burlesque and whatever else there was there was always something went, detain people because people need entertainment boy. I used it this way say I gotta go, go, go go, but when I was a kid younger, even in the field even doing Alex I always felt a little guilty, because I about that writing these stupid comics. There were other people building bridges, doing research into an important things and then little by little I began to realise these comic surrender. Detaining people and people want to be entertained and they need to be in
Ted entertainment is incredibly important and when you think about it, that's all some of the highest paid people in the world are people who went detain you fingers, musicians, comedians actors, bored stars people who entertain the public. They are the ones that are the most important. Nobody gives a hood about whose building a bridge, but they care about whose entertaining them now he's kind of an interesting. Well, it's been has been good to catch up with you again and am, and I did it
here about some other stuff- that your fan of like I've, I've been listening to that the forty station on serious examples they pipeline, like an old Dan, occasional and once in awhile herb, you know burns now, I'm in Burns and Alan were wonderful. Then there was any canter. Maybe I remember his themes at the end, I love to span the Sunday with you whispering to friend, I'm sorry, it's rule let's make a date for next Sunday night. I'm here to state will be my delight to sing again break again. The things you want me to I loved Span Beach Sunday with you. Imagine me remembering that attract. Then he always had a funny thing at the end of every show. After he used it, it was gonna win now. So there is always one final commercial. So before the commercial leads, they write back folks than would be the commercial that,
after the commercially always say the same thing we're a little light. Folks Logan. I have a railway we're alone like folk, the annual you ve been waiting until they make a little beauty Alex we're little light Volkswagen I every week every week he did that and one last thing I think the funniest line he ever said or hardly any comedian ever said. He was supposed to be very stingy, so there was one see me did where a fellow point you gotta them in the street and says you're money or your life, and this silence and the gunman says mine, I said you're, money or your life, and he says I'm thinking, I'm thinking about that I remember anything we such a famous line. Ok thanks! Then
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